Thursday Afternoon Breaking News Updates with Ben - 4/9/2026
4/9/202661 mincomplete
0:00Welcome to Ben on Breaking News.
0:03I'm Ben Micellis, and this is your Breaking News.
0:06We've got a lot to discuss as we are focused on what's happening with this
0:12purported ceasefire negotiations. It seems to be a ceasefire at this point in name only,
0:20as you'll recall. Donald Trump and his regime here in the United States agreed to
0:26all of the 10 negotiating positions of Iran and agreed to negotiate within the Iranian
0:3410 -point framework, which was a complete surrender by Donald Trump, not just in this
0:42war, but a surrender of the United States position globally when you go and you
0:47look through what these 10 points actually say.
0:50Okay. So then after Donald Trump agreed to the 10 points, kind of typical Trump,
0:56J .D. Vance, Trump regime fashion, saying, ah, we never agreed to those 10 points.
1:01It's a misunderstanding. Iran agreed to our 15 points.
1:05And there must have been, I don't know, maybe Iran's parliament leader doesn't speak good
1:10English, and that's really what happened.
1:11But no, no, no, those aren't the 10 points that we agreed to.
1:15When Donald Trump posted, we agreed to Iran's 10 points.
1:18And so what's been happening is Donald Trump and Netanyahu, who committed to certain things
1:26in this 10 -point plan, they've been violating it.
1:29Yesterday, you had the most violent and extreme attacks on Lebanon since the war has
1:36begun by Israel. 250 plus individuals were killed, mostly civilians dying in Beirut, over 1
1:46,000 casualties throughout Lebanon during the day.
1:50I mean, the suburbs of Beirut absolutely, you know, blown up.
1:54I mean, at the same time, you know, we've seen some Iranian drones and strikes
1:59on nearby Arab nation neighbors where the U .S.
2:03and Israel have interests. You know, and you focus on the Strait of Hormuz and
2:09what's going on there, and Iran really hasn't let any tankers through.
2:13They let a few cargo ships through that are Iranian flagged, but oil ain't getting
2:18through the Strait of Hormuz.
2:20And Iran said, at most, at most, we're going to allow maybe 12 ships a
2:28day through, whereas before the war started, 150 ships were able to traverse through the
2:34Strait of Hormuz. And Iran has given a, you know, a guidance of how ships
2:39can access the Strait of Hormuz.
2:41They have to be given permission by Iran.
2:43They have to pay Iran about $2 million or more to be able to have
2:50the permission to leave. That payment is made in usually a cryptocurrency payment.
2:56Iran decides and prioritizes which ships can go.
3:00But Iran said, until it becomes clear that the U .S.
3:04and Israel are negotiating within the framework that they said they were going to negotiate
3:10within, we're not going to open up the Strait of Hormuz to the U .S.
3:14and Israel and allies of the U .S.
3:16We'll keep letting China and Russia and countries that negotiate with us on a bilateral
3:23basis, we'll let them traverse the Strait of Hormuz.
3:27But we're not going to let anyone else through the Strait of Hormuz.
3:28And so oil prices continue to rise again.
3:32They're over $100 a barrel.
3:34They're now up 11 % in 24 hours.
3:40We're seeing, again, this really setting into the marketplace that Donald Trump, yet again, announcing
3:49this deal that he says is great, but it's a total surrender.
3:52And Iran, with their control of the Strait of Hormuz, they're just saying, okay, do
3:58what you want to do.
3:59But we're going to control the Strait of Hormuz, and we're prepared for war again
4:06if you're going to continue to attack Lebanon.
4:10And one of the terms was no attacking Lebanon.
4:13That's just what it said.
4:15It's what it said in the deal, right?
4:17And then Trump and J .D.
4:19Vance are like, oh, that's not what it said in the deal.
4:20That's not what it said in the deal.
4:21I mean, these are the 10 points.
4:23And if you're like, well, what's this list?
4:25This literally comes from the Iran National Security Council's list.
4:3010 points. They've been talking about this for many weeks.
4:32Donald Trump said that he agrees to the 10 -point plan.
4:36And there's only one 10 -point plan.
4:38It says commitment to non -aggression, continuation of Iran's control over the Strait of Hormuz,
4:43acceptance of uranium enrichment by Iran, lifting of all primary sanctions, lifting of all secondary
4:49sanctions, termination of all U .N.
4:51Security Council resolutions, termination of all Board of Governors resolutions, payment of compensation, reparations to
4:57Iran, withdrawal of U .S.
4:58combat forces from the region, cessation of war on all fronts, including against Hezbollah and
5:03Lebanon. The U .S. again picked the mediator here, Prime Minister Sharif of Pakistan and
5:08Prime Minister Sharif, when he announced this deal.
5:11specifically said, this includes Lebanon.
5:14And, you know, and that's where we're at.
5:17I mean, you have M .B.
5:18Galabaf, Iran's leader of their parliament.
5:21He just posted, time is running out with an hourglass.
5:27And he previously posted earlier in the day, Lebanon and the entire resistance axis as
5:33Iran's allies from an inseparable part, form an inseparable part of the ceasefire.
5:39Point one of the 10 -point proposal.
5:41Two, Prime Minister Sharif publicly and clearly stressed that Lebanon issue.
5:46There is no room for denial and backtracking.
5:48And three, ceasefire violations carry explicit costs and strong responses.
5:54Extinguish the fire immediately. I mean, did you ever think that the U .S.
5:58would be in a position where you have Iran basically wagging its figure, lecturing the
6:04U .S., saying extinguish the fire immediately?
6:07I mean, the whole power dynamic has shifted as Donald Trump has accepted this entire
6:1210 -point plan. And now you have J .D.
6:14Vance out there. You know, I mean, what was J .D.
6:16Vance after visiting Hungary to try to prop up Viktor Orban, Putin's puppet in the
6:22elections that are coming up in just a few days over there in Hungary, where
6:28his Fidesz party is expected to lose to the pro -democracy, pro -European Union coalition?
6:34I mean, what's J .D.
6:35Vance saying now? Oh, you know, M .B.
6:37Goluboff. I just don't think he knows English that well.
6:39I think that's why there was a misunderstanding.
6:42I mean, the 10 -point plan was a written 10 -point plan.
6:44Everybody knew what it was.
6:45That's what Trump agreed to.
6:47That's just the facts. That's the undisputed facts of what's happening.
6:50Here's J .D. Vance saying that Goluboff doesn't understand English.
6:54And that's probably why there's all this confusion now.
6:59Here, play this clip. A lot of agreement.
7:01That's point number one. Point number two, to respond to each of those issues, and
7:05I read it very closely, let me just say this.
7:08I actually wonder how good he is at understanding English, because there are things that
7:14he said that frankly didn't make sense in the context of the negotiations that we've
7:17had. But to address the three points, first of all, he talked about an attack
7:21that allegedly happened on Iran and how that was a violation of the ceasefire.
7:25Ceasefires are always messy. An hour after the president announced the ceasefire, the Iranians launched
7:31a bunch of missiles. Then the Israelis responded.
7:35I mean, if that doesn't give you utter humiliation that that's the position of the
7:40United States right now, then maybe they don't understand English.
7:43I mean, you work through the mediator you picked again, the Pakistani Prime Minister Sharif,
7:49who you've elevated to this position.
7:53I think the US drafted the social media posts from Prime Minister Sharif.
7:58That's what New York Times was posting today before they posted it on social media,
8:03right? The social is wars being fought on X and social media.
8:07And Prime Minister Sharif and his posts said that Lebanon is included in the deal.
8:11I mean, that's where I, we're going to talk more about what's going on with
8:16this, you know, this ceasefire and name only.
8:20We'll get to that. But I, you know, there was breaking news before we started
8:24here. And some of the breaking news was that Melania Trump, did you all see
8:28this? Melania Trump out of nowhere holds a press conference to talk about Epstein and
8:34to deny that she had any connections with Epstein and said that we need to
8:39have congressional hearings on Epstein.
8:42And then reporter Jacqueline Alemany called Donald Trump while he was in a meeting.
8:49And this is what reporter Alemany writes, just got off a quick call with President
8:53Trump, who said he didn't know anything about Melania's statements prior to her going on
8:58camera, but that he was in a meeting about the war and couldn't speak further.
9:04She didn't know him, he added before hanging up, referring to Epstein, that he had
9:08no knowledge. She just held a press conference in front of the entire nation on
9:14the Epstein files. And Melania Trump says, I mean, there are multiple, just show the
9:19photos of Melania with Epstein.
9:20You can go through them, you know, one by one, there they are.
9:23I mean, there's emails in the Epstein files of Ghislaine calling Melania sweet pea.
9:29Hey, sweet pea, how are you?
9:30Thanks for your message. Actually, plans changed again.
9:34I'm not going to be able to see you.
9:35Melania says to Ghislaine back on in 2002.
9:41How are you? Nice story about Jeffrey Epstein in New York Magazine.
9:45You look great on the picture.
9:47I know you're very busy flying all over the world.
9:50How is Palm Beach? I cannot wait to go down.
9:52Give me a call when you are back to New York.
9:55Have a great time. Love Melania.
9:57That New York magazine piece is the piece where Donald Trump said that Epstein's a
10:00great guy, loves women on the younger side, but great guy to be around with.
10:05And here's what Melania said during her presser.
10:09Numerous, numerous fake images and statements about Epstein and me have been percolating is what
10:14she says. Here, play this clip.
10:17The first time I crossed paths with Epstein was in the year 2000.
10:23At an event, Donald and I attended together.
10:27At a time I had never met Epstein and had no knowledge of his criminal
10:35undertakings. Numerous fake images and statements about Epstein and me have been calculating on social
10:48media for years now. Be cautious about what you believe.
10:56These images and stories are completely false.
11:02I'm not a witness or a name witness in connection with any of Epstein's crimes.
11:10My name has never appeared in court documents, depositions, victim statements, or FBI interviews surrounding
11:20the Epstein matter. I have never had any knowledge of Epstein's abuse of his victims.
11:31I was never involved in any...
11:34I want to bring in California Attorney General Rob Bonta making news today as well.
11:41Let's bring in Attorney General Bonta if he's here.
11:43Great to see you. I don't know what timeline we're living in right now.
11:50You and I were going to talk about another topic, which we still will, and
11:54then you have this purported ceasefire where there were certain terms that were publicly discussed
12:01that Trump's saying, maybe the other side didn't understand English when they said they agreed
12:09to the 10 -point plan.
12:10I mean, it was a complete surrender.
12:11You have that. I mean, you know, and then that's how I start the report.
12:15Then right before I go live, Melania Trump on her own apparently holds this press
12:20conference and talks about the Epstein files.
12:23And then later on, she asks that there be a congressional investigation while Donald Trump's
12:28saying it's a complete hoax.
12:30I guess before going into any of the legal stuff, Attorney General Bonta, when do
12:35we get out of this madness?
12:36I mean, this is madness.
12:37This is not normal. This is not the way a country should be behaving, eh?
12:43Great. When do we get out of this madness?
12:45As soon as possible, please.
12:47You know, it's, you know, midterms around the corner, maybe, and hopefully that'll have the
12:54outcome that I hope for and bring some sanity and, you know, reasonableness and thoughtfulness
12:58and compassion back to American leadership.
13:02It's, you know, and it's interesting what's happening with Trump's mishandling of Iran.
13:10He seems to be, you know, treading water and scrambling and backpedaling and, you know,
13:15toggling back and forth just like he did with his tariffs.
13:18And, you know, meanwhile, gas prices are surging and people are not happy.
13:22And he's the guy who promised no endless wars.
13:25And he's in one. He's also the one who wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and
13:28demanded it. He got the FIFA Peace Prize instead.
13:31And so, and then, you know, for the First Lady to have her own press
13:37conference on, the thing that many people thought that the Iran conflict was supposed to
13:43distract folks from and distract attention from, to have her own press conference on, it
13:49makes me think, what else is coming here?
13:51And, you know, why is she holding this press conference on her own?
13:54Maybe there's another, you know, shoe about to drop, but who knows?
13:59And it's, you know, her, her comments ring hollow, unfortunately, given the, you know, the
14:04facts and the evidence and the history here.
14:05You know, look, you've litigated, which in kind of our world as lawyers is kind
14:12of, you know, I want to say war, but it's a battle, you know, litigation.
14:17You've also negotiated, mediated, made deals, you know, either before litigation is initiated, during litigations
14:27initiated, or at various phases.
14:30And so, you know, you know, I, you know, you were generous enough to speak
14:34to my USC undergrad class.
14:36So, as you know, I teach law, I teach negotiation, and you, on a day
14:42-to -day basis, engage in some of the most high -profile and sensitive negotiations in
14:47the legal area. And maybe reflect and explain to our audience, though, like, when you
14:54see the way negotiations are handled at even a whole other level, I mean, some
15:00of the life and death stuff of war and peace, where things need to be
15:05clear and detailed and all of these things.
15:08And then to see this, how foreign that actually is from what real negotiations, not
15:15this cartoonish comic book art of the deal crap that's all bullshit, excuse my language,
15:20but in the real world, like, the stuff that you're seeing here, this isn't real.
15:25This is, like, some C -level crazy movie.
15:28This shouldn't be the way real -life serious humans handle things.
15:32Yeah, I mean, it's depressing and it's underwhelming.
15:38But it's also dangerous. You know, the stakes are high.
15:40There's a lot at stake.
15:41There's American lives at stake.
15:43And, you know, with big consequences here.
15:47So, you know, this idea that they're engaged in some sensitive deal -making and they
15:54don't even understand that, you know, the major points of the deal and someone's claiming
15:57that someone else doesn't speak the language or understand it is insane.
16:01And it's irresponsible. And it's, you know, putting...
16:07Americans in harm's way. And it is not the way it should happen.
16:11It should be in good faith.
16:12It should be thoughtful. It should be joining on issue and meeting of the minds
16:19and solving problems and solving problems in a way that's responsible and good for our
16:27country. And I'm unfortunately not seeing any of that.
16:30Talk to us about the announcement that you made earlier, um, dismantling a fraud ring
16:38responsible for $267 million, at least, uh, you know, in fraud.
16:44One of the things that, um, I think we should all agree is on a,
16:49it's not a political thing.
16:51Wherever fraud is found, got to go after it, expose it, prosecute it.
16:56I mean, that's what you do.
16:58That's what AGs do across the country.
17:00You know, I think that when it is politicized in a way that, you know,
17:06Trump and his regime try to say, oh, it's this group of people, it's Somalians,
17:11or it's this or that.
17:13I mean, not only is it, is it racist, but it fundamentally, uh, doesn't recognize
17:19that, you know, state and federal cooperation in the past had been the norm to
17:26work together to find and, and stop the, and stop fraud.
17:30And with this Trump regime, it's kind of moved away from that into this finger
17:36pointing gamesmanship by the Trump regime.
17:39And it's like, I just want to point out, you know, on a day -to
17:42-day basis, like this is what you do.
17:44This is why, this is why there are AGs.
17:46This is your job. You do these things and that's happening on a day -to
17:50-day basis. Talk to us about that.
17:52Yeah. Uh, tackling fraud is a core component of what we do every day.
17:56We've done it for years, for decades.
17:58We've been tackling healthcare fraud since 1979 and it's our bread and butter.
18:04We do it, uh, with no fanfare and, you know, we're not looking for bright
18:08lights on this. Uh, we just head down, sleeves rolled up, doing the work, uh,
18:13engaging in the investigations, rooting out the fraud, identifying the, the suspects, arresting them, holding
18:18them accountable, prosecuting them, sending them to prison, um, securing the taxpayer dollars for Californians
18:26and, and getting them back into, um, the California coffers.
18:30You know, we do all those things.
18:31We've done it, um, for years and for decades.
18:34And, you know, Trump is, is late to the party here.
18:37This is his shiny new object, his flavor of the month.
18:40And not because he is in good faith and with sincerity engaged in the issue.
18:45It's because he sees it as a bludgeon.
18:47It's a political weapon. It's a cudgel to bash California over the head and other
18:51blue states. Meanwhile, and mind you, uh, there's fraud in every state it's across the
18:55country. Uh, no state is immune wherever there is federal funding flowing and bad actors
19:01seeking ill gotten gains. There's going to be fraud.
19:03And there has been, uh, it exists in Texas.
19:05It exists in Georgia. It exists in Florida.
19:07And yes, it exists in California.
19:09That's why we're tackling it.
19:10That's why we're doing this work.
19:11That's why we've been doing this work.
19:12And that's why we had a major bust today.
19:15Uh, 267 million dollars of, uh, attempted fraud, uh, in the hospice care space, a
19:21very sophisticated, organized criminal group that got, uh, stole identities off the black, uh, the,
19:27excuse me, the dark web, um, registered those people who live in other states as
19:32California residents through covered California and got them on Medi -Cal and then acquired hospice,
19:37um, licenses and businesses, and then started billing, um, Medi -Cal, uh, without providing actual
19:44services and then receiving those millions of dollars and going through a very complex web
19:48of money laundering, uh, to hide the ill gotten gains.
19:53And, uh, we got a tip, uh, just under a year ago, we started investigating.
19:58We, we stopped making, uh, in California, stop making any more payments to those under
20:02investigation. And yesterday we did a takedown where, uh, uh, of the, the 21 suspects
20:09here that were engaged in this criminal, uh, operation.
20:12We, uh, made arrests, um, executed search and arrest warrants at 10 locations and made
20:17arrests of the highest level individuals involved.
20:21So this is what we're supposed to do, investigate, do the important police work, um,
20:26arrest and hold accountable. And it's my team.
20:28This is a California case from, uh, the first day to the last day, from
20:32the, the beginning of the investigation to the end of the prosecution.
20:35We will now go into the prosecution phase and hold these folks accountable.
20:38And they're facing 10 to 16 years in prison.
20:41Attorney General, before you have to go, anything else you want to tell our viewers
20:45either about that or just, uh, in general, this historical moment?
20:50Yeah. You know, it's unfortunate what you were saying about this politicization, uh, by the
20:54Trump administration, you know, Trump or Oz, or, uh, there's a first assistant here.
20:58Who's not actually a U S attorney, uh, first assistant, a salee who liked to
21:03do, uh, you know, uh, Dr.
21:05Oz likes to do drive -bys and he comes to California, stops in, does a
21:08direct to camera video, then leaves.
21:10And, you know, before he arrived and, and while he was here and after he
21:14leaves, we're doing the hard work of tackling hospice fraud.
21:17They're politicizing hospice fraud. We're tackling hospice fraud.
21:21And so, uh, this is another, uh, sort of, uh, distraction and political weapon that
21:29Trump is trying to wield, no real interest in actually tackling fraud, but we have
21:32interest in it, uh, interest that we've demonstrated.
21:34for decades, and we'll continue to tackle the fraud, hold the bad guys accountable, bring
21:39them to justice. And we will also continue our important work of holding the law.
21:44We have 66 lawsuits against the Trump administration, which is blatantly breaking the law, violating
21:48the Constitution. He gets no passes.
21:51Each and every time he breaks the law, hurts our states, we're going to sue
21:53him. We've won 80 percent of the time, protected $200 billion in funding that California
21:58is owed, protected rights and freedoms like voting rights and birthright citizenship.
22:02Trump's about to get another big L in the U .S.
22:05Supreme Court, in my humble opinion, having sat in court for the U .S.
22:09Supreme Court argument on birthright citizenship after already losing on tariffs and on Prop 50
22:13and on National Guard. So we're going to keep at it, keep pushing, keep doing
22:18what we do, and not be distracted by the over -politicization by the Trump administration.
22:23Attorney General Banda, thanks for joining us.
22:25We appreciate you. Great to see you, Ben.
22:26Thanks for having me. Absolutely.
22:28You know, one of the things that Donald Trump's been doing all day, ranting and
22:33raving like a lunatic, what else is new?
22:35But he's been making social media posts like attacking NATO.
22:41None of these people, including our own very disappointing NATO, understood anything unless they have
22:46pressure placed upon them. He's posting weird photos of himself and Dana White with lightning
22:52in front of the White House, I guess, to promote a UFC fight.
22:57I mean, so you have Donald Trump doing that while you have Iran calling Donald
23:01Trump and Netanyahu out for violating the 10 -point negotiating framework.
23:06You have M .B. Goluboff saying what I just reported earlier about how, and he's
23:11citing the 10 points. You know, as Donald Trump's like, oh, there are all these
23:15different lists floating around and nobody knows what the real list, and we know what
23:18the new list, we know what the 10 -point list is that you agreed to.
23:21If you didn't want to agree to it, don't agree to it.
23:23You said you were going to obliterate an entire civilization.
23:26That's what you said. And then by all reporting, you then begged Pakistan to jump
23:32in and say that you wanted to accept Iran's 10 -point plan.
23:38And then Iran was like, well, they want to accept this 10 -point plan.
23:41I mean, it'll be the biggest humiliation in the history of the United States if
23:45they agree to these 10 points.
23:46And you agreed to him.
23:47And so now you have Goluboff making posts citing the 10 points that you agreed
23:52to and saying you violated this point, you violated that point, which is true.
23:56I mean, I hate to admit it, but it is that you agreed to those
23:59points. You have M .B.
24:02Goluboff's top advisor, his strategic advisor in the parliament saying the following, only a limited
24:09number of hours remain. Without the complete restraint of America's dogs in Lebanon, there will
24:15be no ceasefire or negotiations, and the missiles are ready to fly.
24:19He said the equation of shared destiny among components of the resistant access are part
24:26of what he called a new regional order following Iran's victory, and it must be
24:31solidified if possible with kind words.
24:33Otherwise, with war, you have the president of Iran, Pazeshkian, saying Israel's renewed incursion into
24:41Lebanon is a blatant violation of the initial ceasefire agreement.
24:45This is a dangerous sign of deception and lack of commitment to potential agreements.
24:49The continuation of these actions will render negotiations meaningless.
24:54Our fingers remain on the trigger.
24:56Iran will never abandon its Lebanese sisters and brothers.
24:59And then before that, he wrote, the repeated aggression by the Zionist entities against Lebanon
25:04is a flagrant violation of the initial ceasefire agreement and a dangerous indicator of deceit
25:11and lack of commitment to potential accords.
25:14The continuation of these aggressions will render negotiations meaningless.
25:19And you got photos of the Strait of Hormuz where ain't no tankers going through
25:24the Strait of Hormuz right now.
25:25And so I know that you have J .D.
25:28Vance and Trump saying, the tanks are going through.
25:30They're not. The tanks are not going through right now, okay?
25:34And even when they do go through, Iran has said maximum 15 tankers a day
25:40as opposed to 150 if they pay us $2 million per tanker.
25:45And the oil industry and shipping industry says, we can't do that.
25:51Like, we don't have the money or we do have the money, but if we
25:54do, we have to pass it on to consumers and that's going to raise the
25:58gas prices. If we really have to pay $2 million per ship, that becomes kind
26:03of, it's not cost prohibitive if that gets passed on to the consumer.
26:08But, you know, think tariffs are raising prices.
26:12I mean, just think about what adding $2 million per ship is going to do
26:18every single time. I mean, but like, while you have Iran's president citing written agreements
26:26that was agreed to by Trump and provisions, I mean, the fact that Donald Trump's
26:31response is he's posting photos of himself and Dana White AI weird photos with cartoons,
26:38like that's where we are as a country right now.
26:41You know, before, like in the past five minutes or so, Donald, no, past 15
26:47minutes or so, Donald Trump unleashed a deranged tirade, personally attacking Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor
26:54Greene, Candace Owens, Megyn Kelly, and Alex Jones.
26:57This is what Trump writes.
26:58I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones.
27:02have all been fighting me for years, especially by the fact that they think it
27:06is wonderful, Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror to have a nuclear weapon,
27:11because they have one thing in common, low IQs.
27:13They're stupid people. They know it.
27:15Their families know it. Everyone else knows it too.
27:17Look at their past. Look at their record.
27:19They don't have what it takes.
27:20They never did. They're shows and aren't even invited on TV because nobody cares about
27:25them. They're nut jobs, troublemakers, and will say anything necessary for some free and cheap
27:30publicity. Now they think they get some clicks because they have third rate podcasts, but
27:35nobody's talking about them. And their views are the opposite of MAGA, or I wouldn't
27:40have won the presidential election in a landslide.
27:43Then he goes on to say that Tucker Carlson's a broken man.
27:48He couldn't even finish college.
27:50He says, Megyn Kelly asked some nasty questions.
27:56He then goes and says, these people are losers.
27:59They will always be. He says, Marjorie Taylor Greene, they're nasty, just like Marjorie Trader
28:08Brown. I mean, what the hell is this behavior?
28:11I mean, just take a step back for a second, okay?
28:14Just think about where we are right now, what we're on the precipice of.
28:19This is life and death, war and peace stuff, as I was talking about with
28:23Attorney General Bonta. Right now, you have Trump agreeing on behalf of the United States
28:32to a 10 -point negotiating framework saying, I'm negotiating within these parameters.
28:37That's what he said. We now have obvious violations of those parameters.
28:42You had, by the way, I mean, you have Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying,
28:49you know, we're not following any of this stuff.
28:52He goes, we still have objectives to complete and we will achieve them either through
28:57agreement or by renewing the fighting.
29:00He said that. And then before, he also was basically saying that, you know, we're
29:07not going to stop bombing Lebanon.
29:09And so that was one of the provisions.
29:12And so how that gets resolved is unclear.
29:17And while all of that's taking place, I mean, you've got Donald Trump out there
29:21posting attacks on Megyn Kelly and Alex Jones.
29:25Like that's what's occupying his mind right now.
29:30I mean, it's again, it's utterly deranged.
29:35We got fourth quarter GDP revisions from 2025.
29:41It was initially 1 .4 % GDP growth, which was anemic.
29:46Then it was reduced to 0 .7%.
29:48Now it's 0 .5%. And this is fourth quarter GDP.
29:53I mean, now with this war, with the supply shock that we are facing of
29:57oil, liquefied natural gas, helium, fertilizers, everything else.
30:04And there's really no sign of it getting better.
30:05Doesn't this perfectly kind of mirror and mimic like the COVID timeline?
30:10Like a miracle, it's all going to go away.
30:13We fixed it. We solved this.
30:14Inject yourself with bleach. I mean, Donald Trump's last effort, again, our latest effort to
30:22manipulate the market was agreeing to all of Iran's terms.
30:26And then Trump was going to do what he always does.
30:28I never agreed to those terms.
30:30Ah, there was a misunderstanding.
30:32And Iran's like, okay, but we still control the Strait of Hormuz.
30:37Let me share with you over here what J .D.
30:39Vance said on Lebanon. He goes, I think it's just a reasonable misunderstanding.
30:44It's just a, we just had a reasonable misunderstanding with them in the 10 point
30:48plan. Here's what J .D.
30:49Vance said. I think the third thing that he said was, was Lebanon.
30:54Okay. And again, I actually think that is a reasonable misunderstanding, but neither us nor
31:01the Israelis said that that was going to be part of the ceasefire.
31:04Again, we're working with people to try to get through some of these things, but
31:08it's, it's really fundamentally we're on the right track.
31:13Okay. It's literally in the 10 point plan.
31:16Not only that, but just, let's just do it this way.
31:20Ready? The United States picked Pakistan for whatever reason, Prime Minister Sharif.
31:28Also, they gave a lot of crypto money to Donald Trump's World Liberty Financial.
31:33They picked Pakistan to be the mediator, the neutral, right?
31:40When this deal was announced, Pakistan's prime minister, Sharif said Lebanon is included in the
31:47ceasefire. That's what the guy wrote.
31:51I mean, he wrote that Lebanon is included in the ceasefire.
31:53That's what he said. There's not a, there's not a reasonable misunderstanding.
31:57There really isn't. I mean, that, that, that, that was the, that was the deal
32:00that you agreed to. And now Iran points to this document and says, you see,
32:05you see what they agreed to?
32:06Here was the 10 point plan.
32:08This is what America said they were going to do.
32:10By the way, the 10 point plan says Iran can continue to enrich uranium.
32:14And now here's what J .D.
32:16Vance said. He goes, he said, we refuse to give up the right to enrich
32:20uranium. And I thought to myself, my wife skydives.
32:25My wife wants to jump out of airplanes.
32:27Watch what you, what are you talking about?
32:28Your wife wants to jump out of airplanes.
32:31The second thing Gollibop said, which again, I found fascinating, is he said, we refuse
32:36to give up the right to enrichment.
32:39And I thought to myself, you know what?
32:41My wife has the right to skydive, but she doesn't jump out of an airplane
32:46because she and I have an agreement that she's not going to do that because
32:49I don't want my wife jumping out of an airplane.
32:51We don't really concern ourselves with what they claim they have the right to do.
32:56We concern ourselves with what they actually do.
32:59And I think the president's been very clear on the enrichment question.
33:05He actually hasn't been very clear because he agreed to Iran's 10 point plan.
33:10So if you were all watching the Ben on Breaking News show on Tuesday, where
33:17we were approaching the deadline, right?
33:19The deadline was approaching 8 p .m.
33:22Eastern time. That's when Trump said he would obliterate the entire civilization of Iran.
33:26Where I left that show, I was saying, Trump put forward a 15 point plan
33:33before that was basically Iran's surrender.
33:36Iran rejected it. Iran had their 10 point framework.
33:39And I said, how are they going to be able to reach an agreement unless
33:43Trump agrees to all of Iran's points?
33:46And that's what happened. But Trump's plan, like he's done his whole life with businesses
33:52is to say, where he's bankrupt to things and he's defrauded people, would be to
33:57say, ah, I never actually agree to those things.
33:59I never agreed to those.
34:00And you did. The world knows that you did.
34:02Who are you fooling? At this point, you're just, who's the audience?
34:08A smaller and smaller group of Fox News, and I put news in quotes, viewers?
34:14Is that who this is?
34:16Who are you selling this to?
34:18People know what's going on here.
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39:11right now about what donald trump posted during the break here's what he wrote moments
39:16ago there are reports that iran is charging fees to tankers going through the hormuz
39:24straight they better not be and if they are they better stop now president donald
39:32j trump i mean they better not be that was again part of the plan
39:37that you agreed to they've always said they were going to be charging fees in
39:42the strait of hormuz i mean it's beyond the 25th amendment issue it really is
39:47i mean the 25th amendment at this point would be like it's like a generous
39:51way of looking at it and it's not incorrect to say that there's that i
39:56mean this is this is a lunatic this is a lunatic and demented human being
40:01who's saying things like this of course they're charging a feast that's what they said
40:05they were going to do they've always said they were going to do that they've
40:09never this isn't a surprise this isn't a shocker this is what they've always said
40:15it you know part of the the the difficulty i don't want to say frustration
40:23i just a interesting part about doing this coverage is i understand that in the
40:33fog of war or in general governments lie right government that's what governments do a
40:39lot not all the time but a lot and especially in war governments lie and
40:45so you have to look at propaganda then you have to look at what's happening
40:51right with your own reporting with videos on the ground with uh you know other
40:57reporting and you try to understand like paint a picture of what is really happening
41:04here and one of the things i pride the minus touch network on is really
41:11digging into it and saying look here are the images of what's happening in lebanon
41:18right now in beirut after a ceasefire was announced do i understand that in kuwait
41:27in the united arab emirates uh in uh in in in other areas uh that
41:34there are there have been sightings of iranian drones and these governments are saying that
41:40they've shot down iranian drones and if there are iranian drones or would that be
41:45violations of the ceasefires well yeah but like what happened in lebanon yesterday was an
41:51absolute massacre of human beings of mothers and children of fathers of brothers of sisters
41:59of grandfathers you know to see ceasefire announced and the mass casualty event that took
42:09place yesterday put aside your politics and just be a damn human being for a
42:16moment as you see that pull that up again the headline israeli strikes led to
42:22the highest single day death toll in the war in lebanon the highest single death
42:31toll day was after a ceasefire was announced so i don't know how you don't
42:39draw the conclusion logically that the goal of that was to have netanyahu break the
42:48ceasefire that that was the goal it says according to axio citing an israeli official
42:56israel will not consider lebanon as part of the currently in place ceasefire framework during
43:04negotiations with lebanon israel lebanon negotiations on the disarmament of lebanese hezbollah are set to
43:13commence in the coming days that's their position that's the position that they may have
43:19had before okay but donald trump agreed to something else that's the same way he
43:25agreed to於 who have Iran control the Strait of Hormuz, the same way he agreed
43:30to all of these other terms.
43:32That's, again, just the facts.
43:33And put aside politics. I mean, these are human beings who were murdered and massacred
43:37in Lebanon yesterday. When I looked at the photos and you see the families, little
43:42girls and boys and just people, if you don't shed a tear for life, then
43:49I don't know what's going on.
43:52I don't know what's going on.
43:54Talk about some other facts as Donald Trump's posting that.
44:00Here's what Donald Trump wrote as well.
44:03This is how he's framing the issue.
44:07Numerous agreements, lists, and letters are being sent out by people that have absolutely nothing
44:13to do with the U .S.-Iran negotiations.
44:17In many cases, they are total fraudsters, charlatans, and worse.
44:22They will be rapidly exposed after our federal investigation is completed.
44:26There is only one group of meaningful points that are acceptable to the United States.
44:30And we will be discussing them behind closed doors during these negotiations.
44:35These are the points that are in the basis on which we agreed to a
44:38ceasefire. It is something that is reasonable and can easily be dispensed with.
44:43It's very much like fake news CNN last night headlining a source that had no
44:48power or authority to write a letter claiming authority.
44:52I mean, we're just reporting on what the 10 -point plan always was.
44:57And it's not just random people.
45:00It's Iran saying, yeah, that was the 10 -point plan.
45:02You agreed to it. Reminder, here's what the 10 -point plan is.
45:06And you see Trump saying, we're going to do a federal investigation into anybody who
45:10reports on it. Do a federal investigation into anybody who reports on it.
45:14What is that going to do for the fact that there should be a way
45:20to address this war, this unlawful catastrophic war that you started and Netanyahu started with
45:28an invasion of Iran? Okay, you're going to investigate people.
45:32I mean, let's grow up.
45:33Okay, got it. We need to focus on what the hell is happening here because
45:37the Strait of Hormuz is closed.
45:39And right now we're on the precipice of this fake ceasefire formally becoming non -existent.
45:47And when Donald Trump makes posts, they better not be charging in the Strait of
45:51Hormuz. Just clown behavior, social media posts.
45:55What are you doing? What are you doing?
45:58You know, one of the things that we talked about this morning, and I think
46:01the Free Press, one of the first people to report it, Christopher Hale, who writes
46:06a substack called Letters from Leo, Letters from Pope Leo XIV.
46:12I mean, you heard the reporting that the Trump regime essentially threatened Pope Leo's life
46:18by summoning Pope Leo XIV's top ambassador to the United States in front of Elbridge
46:27Colby, who is like the undersecretary of the Department of Defense.
46:32They unlawfully call themselves the Department of War.
46:35So they summoned Pope Leo XIV to the Pentagon, Pope Leo XIV's top ambassador.
46:41And they say to him, basically, do you remember, this is the reporting, do you
46:46remember the Avignon Papacy from the 14th century where the French back then basically killed
46:52the Pope and moved the Holy See, moved the Vatican to Avignon?
46:59And the way Pope Leo XIV took this threat and the Vatican took this threat
47:06was that the Trump regime was threatening basically a military invasion of the Vatican.
47:12That happened in January. And that followed Pope Leo XIV delivering a state -of -the
47:19-world speech where he talked about how basically bloodthirsty, warmongering people out there, and he's
47:27obviously referencing Trump, were out there disrupting the world order.
47:33The parallels to me, you know, are very similar if you go back and you
47:37look at your World War II history and you look at the way Hitler was
47:41so intimidated by the Pope and the threats that were made to bishops.
47:46And it's often one of the things you see with authoritarians historically, this attack on,
47:54you know, the Vatican or the attack on religious leaders.
47:57And I don't care what religion or no religion, you know, we have people who
48:03watch who are religious, who are non -religious, all different types of religions.
48:07At its core, the most important thing here that I stress with the community is
48:12empathy, love, togetherness, the values that regardless of religion, we should all feel these values.
48:19But the fact that Donald Trump is out there threatening Greenland and threatening NATO and
48:26threatening the Pope and threatening all these things, destroying a global world order, propping up
48:33Russia and China and North Korea and now Iran, Iran becoming a major global power,
48:39propping up Russia. And how anybody can think that that represents strength or that this
48:45is good for the United States.
48:46I mean, it's, it's absolutely beyond me.
48:50And this Pope Leo, the 14 story is just absolutely.
48:53wild. And then you have Donald Trump right now threatening Europe.
48:58And he's out there. Again, this is where he goes back again.
49:01Europe, you need to go to the Strait of NATO.
49:03You need to go to the Strait of Hormuz.
49:05That's what really needs to happen.
49:07I don't want to hear you say things.
49:09Send your ships there now.
49:11Der Spiegel, a big fan of Der Spiegel in Germany, they write, the US is
49:16increasing pressure on its European partners to commit military forces in the Strait of Hormuz,
49:22according to information obtained by Spiegel.
49:25NATO Secretary General Mark Ruddy has informed European capitals that Donald Trump, by the way,
49:30this Mark Ruddy guy, oh my God, it's like the most humiliating thing I've ever
49:34seen. Like the worst guy for this moment right now.
49:36And maybe in the future, he'll be like, I had to do that to keep
49:39NATO alive. So I, you know, I swallowed my pride.
49:43No, what you're doing is making things so much worse.
49:46Because the only thing that Donald Trump recognizes his strength or, you know, or his
49:52perception of someone standing up to him.
49:53So you, you, what you're doing is showing utter weakness on behalf of NATO, and
49:57you're actually harming NATO by sucking up to Donald Trump.
50:02Oh, Donald Trump is right about this.
50:03No, no, just stop it.
50:05Stop, stop it. You've humiliated yourself.
50:08I mean, you, it's just pathetic seeing Mark, Mark Ruddy.
50:11You know, and Mark Ruddy saying, has informed European capitals that Donald Trump expects concrete
50:16commitments within the next few days for the deployment of warships or other military capabilities
50:22from Europe. Political pledges such as those in the days since the start of the
50:26war are no longer sufficient.
50:28Why would it even be needed right now?
50:29You said there's a ceasefire.
50:30The war is done. Europe.
50:33So this is your plan.
50:34Your plan was to enter into a fake ceasefire with Iran and agree to their
50:38terms, then claim you didn't agree to their terms, and then say to Europe that
50:43you need to go and go to war with Iran.
50:46Like, you think people are that stupid and go, oh, okay, Donald, he's, he did
50:50a social media post. I guess we're going to have to agree.
50:53Oh gosh. Oh golly. I guess Donald Trump, I guess we're going to have to
50:57do it now. No. What's happening now is whether it's France or other European countries
51:05or other countries across the world, they're picking up the phone.
51:09They ain't calling you. They're calling Iran.
51:12They're calling foreign minister Aragchi.
51:15And they're saying, what can we do to get our ships through the Strait of
51:18Europe? What can we do?
51:19How do we develop stronger bilateral relationship with Iran?
51:23You've made Iran basically a global power, one of the most powerful nations in the
51:28world right now. That's what you did.
51:30Do we have that clip of Rudy?
51:31Just show that clip of Mark Rudy before I forget.
51:33Let's play a clip. The NATO summit in Washington, when NATO was celebrating the 75
51:38years, there was an agreement on the irreversible path of Ukraine into NATO.
51:44But also the fact of the matter is that a couple of countries are holding
51:47back, including Germany and Slovakia, Hungary, the United States.
51:51So I don't think it is on the table right now.
51:54And that was about whether Ukraine should join NATO.
51:57A couple of countries are holding out the United States.
52:01Want to give you all another update as well.
52:03I'll look in the chat room right now to see how many people throw those
52:08Canadian flags up for the Maple Midas out there.
52:11How many Maple Midas do we have right now?
52:13Throw the flag if you are a Maple Midas right now.
52:17Let's see. I know we've got, you know, the Midas Touch network is the biggest
52:22podcast actually in Canada. And we have the Midas Canada channel that's led by Charlie
52:31Angus. We've got so many Midas mighty out there in Canada.
52:36And so for all of the Canadians, you all know this news, but I'll try
52:42to tell it from the perspective of, um, for those who may not know what
52:47a big deal this is.
52:48And so in the past 24 hours, uh, Pierre Poliev, who's the main opposition leader,
52:56uh, his communications director, uh, Katie Merrifield resigned.
53:03And, you know, that was the, we knew that was the start of something.
53:06And then you had, um, uh, an individual changing parties, um, right now, uh, and
53:14not just any individual, Marilyn Gladue.
53:17And for those, and she was in the conservative party with Pierre Poliev.
53:20So just those know conservative party, Pierre Poliev really has kind of turned that into,
53:26uh, the kind of Maple MAGA, right?
53:30You have Maple Midas, Maple MAGA at this point, that's what's kind of going on.
53:34And so Poliev was Maple MAGA and all of the MAGA talking points, you know,
53:40he would push and he was supposed to win the election.
53:43Um, and then prime minister Carney entered the race and surged ahead and Canada saw
53:49what was happening in the United States and Carney went elbows up and stood up
53:53and Carney won, didn't get a majority government.
53:57He had to have, find a coalition government, um, but won a pretty significant election,
54:03but there was still a few seats, uh, that made this election such that it
54:08was a minority government. You still had to rely on a coalition, which made it
54:12difficult to get an agenda through.
54:14But prime minister Carney has been standing up to Donald Trump, did not agree to
54:18any of Donald Trump's, uh, BS.
54:21BS deals when Trump was trying to threaten Canada.
54:26He shows, Prime Minister Carney has exemplified what you can do when you stand up
54:31to Donald Trump and his despicable regime.
54:33So Marilyn Gladue, the best way to describe it, is like Nancy Mace for our
54:39American viewers, or like a Lauren Boebert or a Marjorie Taylor Greene.
54:44So it's not just that a conservative switch to the Liberal Party and join Prime
54:50Minister Carney in this incredible press conference that took place.
54:55But it was also which conservative party member did it.
55:00Someone who was viewed as very much a Maple MAGA type of person.
55:07That was like her back.
55:08You know, if you go through some of her history, that's what a lot of
55:10Canadians were telling me. Ben, it's not just that Marilyn Gladue switched and crossed the
55:14aisle and joined the Liberal government, but it's also her background as well.
55:19And she was proud to be the newest member of our new Liberal government because
55:23what the conservative party was doing under Pierre Poliev was so MAGA and so kind
55:28of antithetical to Canadian values that even Marilyn Gladue, so what this may even be
55:34the start of, I mean, there's a few things to even think about right now.
55:38Number one, are we going to see more of that happening?
55:41The reality is that Prime Minister Carney doesn't even need it to because there are
55:45elections happening in the next week or so that the Liberal Party is expected to
55:50win. And Prime Minister Carney will almost certainly now be able to get his majority
55:55government. So there's about to be a Prime Minister Carney majority government that's about to
56:01form, which means Carney is going to be safe basically through 2029 as a result
56:07of this. I mean, unless you had people shifting back to the other, but that's
56:10not going to happen. So Carney's going to solidify his government until a new election
56:14needs to be called sometime in 2029.
56:16That's a really big deal.
56:17But one of the strategic things, and I wonder what our Canadian supporters think as
56:21well, you know, do you, given the unpopularity even right now of the Conservatives, do
56:28you call a snap election right now just to wipe out all the Conservatives from
56:34their writings? And do you call one right now?
56:37I don't think you have to, or why would, but people believe that at this
56:42particular moment, the Conservative Party is so unpopular that if you called a snap, you'd
56:47pick up even more seats than you had before and make it even a bigger
56:51statement. I wonder what our Canadian viewers think about that.
56:53But in any event, he's going to form his majority government.
56:56But why am I bringing this up right now?
56:58Especially in contrast to Mark Rutte, and especially with all of the events that are
57:03transpiring right now. Because we are in a moment where you can't show weakness, you
57:12can't bow down, you can't, there's nothing, you can't negotiate with Trump.
57:18It's all bad faith. It's all, he uses negotiations as a way to sucker punch
57:24you, as a way to hit you when you're down.
57:26There's just, there's no way of dealing with the guy.
57:28So Mark Rutte, you can't appease him in NATO.
57:31That's not going to happen.
57:32If Trump wants to leave, just tell him to leave.
57:34Say, okay, bye, the NATO's over.
57:37Form your own regional alliance.
57:39And then, you know, if there's a new president in the future, maybe it's reformed,
57:43but call his bluff. Call his bluff on what it is.
57:46I mean, the one thing that Iran has demonstrated, and this is the message that's
57:51been sent to the rest of the world, you stand up to this guy.
57:54You don't back down. You don't give an inch at all.
57:57And he folds every time.
57:59Set aside Iran. Think about Abrego Garcia, right?
58:04Think about E. Jean Carroll, right?
58:06Think about Letitia James. Think about Alvin Bragg, right?
58:11Think about all of these times when Donald Trump has used all of his tactics
58:16and the threats and the that and that.
58:18And you just stand up and you go do it.
58:19I'm drowning out the noise.
58:21He's eye on the prize, standing up.
58:24I'm not going to agree to any of this.
58:25No, no, no, no, no.
58:27Okay, huff and puff and threaten.
58:28Okay. Find your leverage points against him and utilize them.
58:33Iran clearly does not have the military might of the United States.
58:38It does not have the global alliances of the United States.
58:42Far from it. Sure, Iran was seriously hit hard by the United States and set
58:50back the economy for decades.
58:52And although they'll be able to raise lots of funds from the Strait of Hormuz
58:56money. But one of the things that is a message, this is why Iran was
59:00like, okay, Donald Trump begged us to accept the 10 point plan.
59:05Think about the message that sends to the rest of the world that Trump embraced
59:09that plan. That the United States of America, right?
59:14The country that defeated the Nazis in World War II, the country that led the
59:19post -World War II world, agreed to all 10 of Iran's points as a negotiating
59:27framework. And each point for the United States, perhaps more humiliating than the next.
59:33And so Iran's like, we know he's going to violate it.
59:35I'm sure they were like, I'm sure he'll violate it.
59:37But we've got our document.
59:39We'll just keep calling them out in the the world.
59:40The world knows what's going on.
59:42And sure, Trump will appeal to his Fox and his CBS audiences.
59:46But the rest of the world saw what happened.
59:48happened. That's what I have to report on because that's the truth.
59:53That's the objective facts of what went down.
59:56And that's what we're going to continue to do here on the Midas Touch Network,
59:59as always. I want to give a shout out to Attorney General Bonta for joining
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