Hour 3 - Kennedy Murder/Suicide?
3/26/202637 mincomplete
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1:01of today's show. But we are joined now by Maureen Callahan, journalist, New York Times
1:06bestselling author, host of The Nerve.
1:09And, okay, Buck tells me that you have a strong take on this.
1:14I don't want to throw them under the bus.
1:16But sources tell me that Carrie Sexton and Laura Travis both independently have been watching
1:23this John F. Kennedy Jr.
1:25and Carolyn Bessette show. Every time I walk through my bedroom, it has been playing
1:30over the past few days.
1:31It makes me think that women everywhere are watching this show.
1:35The parts that I have seen are trash.
1:37Why are they watching? Am I wrong?
1:41That's for me, I take it.
1:43Yes. Oh, okay. Well, listen, I don't know that it's – I would love to
1:49know the demographics of who is watching.
1:51The breakdown between men and women, the ages.
1:53It is hitting a 90s nostalgia marrow like nothing else.
1:58I'm watching it. It is white women between the ages of 20 and 50 that
2:04are 95%, I'm convinced, of the viewership of this show.
2:07This is my take on who's watching.
2:10Interesting. Interesting. Well, listen, I'm something of a Kennedy historian.
2:14I wrote the book Ask Not about the real story of the way that the
2:19Kennedy men have treated their women.
2:22You know, it's upsetting to me, actually, because I was talking to a friend of
2:26mine over the weekend, very smart, very sophisticated, lifelong New Yorker, grew up with JFK
2:32Jr. in our faces, said, oh, you mean it's not true?
2:36Like, the way in which their story is being depicted in this Ryan Murphy FX
2:42Hulu melodrama isn't true? And I'm like, none of it's true.
2:46They were both pretty awful, shallow, vain, selfish people.
2:51He was a moron. One, he was a true idiot, and he, I believe, I
2:57theorize it with a lot of legitimacy in the book, and I've done so on
3:01the nerve because we're recapping it every week.
3:03I think that was a murder -suicide.
3:06I really do. Okay, well, hold on, Maureen.
3:09First of all, before we get it, that's a big thing.
3:11We can address that in a second.
3:12I want to hear your details on that.
3:13Oh, I knew you would love that theory.
3:14I knew it. Well, you think I love that theory.
3:17All the stuff you said before that, inject it right into my veins, Maureen.
3:22Every time I walk in and my wife is watching the show.
3:25By the way, my wife, who is totally, like, as right -wing as I am,
3:29she knows all this stuff, but she's still watching the show, so she's very, very
3:33aware of the truth of the Kennedys.
3:35But she laughs at me because I can't walk in without going, the Kennedys are
3:38trash, they're the worst people ever, Camelot's all a myth, a lie.
3:41It is amazing, the brand creation.
3:44I mean, can you speak to this a little bit?
3:46Whether it's Camelot or it's, you know, JFK Jr., all this stuff.
3:51Teddy Kennedy. These people have a long history, the whole dynasty of Kennedys, of being
3:57abject, trust fund scumbags who do really bad things, particularly to women, but the media
4:03keeps propping them up, keeps pretending like they're the good guys.
4:07Okay, to your point right there, Buck, I'm going to tell you my favorite scene
4:12thus far of the entire series.
4:14I don't know if you happen to, quote -unquote, walk by while your wife is
4:18watching it. Okay. This has happened to me seven times I've walked by and my
4:23wife has been watching this show.
4:25It's like a drive -by.
4:26It's such an accident. I know, you guys.
4:29You know the scene where Donald Logue, as Ted Kennedy, is ripping JFK Jr.
4:33a new one for fighting with Carolyn publicly in the park, and they were, like,
4:37physical. They were, like, going at it.
4:38And Ted Kennedy flings a New York Post on the table across to JFK Jr.
4:44and goes, this family means something to people.
4:47Right? And that scene is done straight face.
4:50And it's like, this is a guy who left a campaign age, 28 years old.
4:53I didn't know that this scene existed.
4:56But, yes, continue. It's legit.
4:58In three feet of water, this is a guy who would sexually assault waitresses in
5:03D .C. restaurants as recently as the 90s.
5:06He did it in front of the late Michael Kelly, who was doing a profile
5:11for him in GQ magazine, and this assault ran in GQ magazine.
5:17And this series is treating this family like it's our version of the crown.
5:23And, you know, people... Yeah, it's...
5:24There are people who want this sort of – they want to be narcotized.
5:28They want to get high on this garbage.
5:31And then there are the rest of us who are like, wait a minute.
5:34My problem, just as a storyteller, is that the real story is so much darker
5:40and more effed up and compelling.
5:42And these people are such messes.
5:45Ryan Murphy easily could have gotten three seasons out of this easily.
5:48But they went with the fairytale version, and it's ending this week.
5:53Okay, so now we're talking to Maureen Callahan.
5:56The Nerve is your podcast, right?
5:59So you're doing phenomenal stuff.
6:02And I guess my wife is a fan.
6:03So I actually come across my wife.
6:05Do you happen to just walk by when she's listening like you don't listen?
6:09I just want you to know, by the way, we have – I'm going to
6:11admit this. You've corded me.
6:12When I walk by, do I end up watching the rest of the JFK Jr.
6:15episode? Yes, I do. But it's an accident when it starts.
6:18Okay, I'm going to be honest.
6:19I have not sat down and watched any of it.
6:22But she's obsessed with it, and I told her this was a trash show.
6:25But what I was going to say was that I come across my wife listening
6:28to your podcast sometimes, and I hear you speaking truth about Kennedys, and I'm just
6:33– oh, my gosh. It's like the Jon Hamm meme where he's dancing in the
6:37club that everyone sees online now.
6:38I'm just like, oh, tell more truth about the Kennedys.
6:41They're the worst people ever.
6:42I don't – even like Caroline was like ambassador.
6:45These people are all just so vain and so worthless, and the Democrat media props
6:49them up so much. Your statement – I have to bring myself back into this.
6:54You think that the plane crash with JFK Jr., his girlfriend and her sister –
7:02just walk us through the evidence on this, because you made quite a claim.
7:06Oh, yes, of course. So I studied the NTSB report, the formal investigation and findings
7:13into that crash like a Talmudic scholar.
7:17Okay, so here is something that the mainstream media has never reported and still will
7:21not, even though I put it in Ask Not.
7:23John F. Kennedy Jr., before crashing that night with his wife and sister -in -law
7:27on the plane, almost smashed into a packed American Airlines commercial jetliner making its descent
7:33to JFK. They won't report that.
7:37He didn't turn his comms on.
7:40He didn't file a flight plan.
7:43He was seen on the tarmac carrying a half -drunk bottle of white wine, was
7:50on pain pills for a broken bone he had just gotten his cast off.
7:54Multiple pilots on that tarmac told him, don't go up, I'm not doing it, and
7:58I'm way more experienced than you are.
8:00His flight instructor offered to go with him.
8:03He said no, and he wasn't instrument rated.
8:07It was so hazy that night.
8:09Now, why would he do that?
8:11Everything in his life was falling apart.
8:14His magazine had become a laughing stock in the media.
8:18It was failing, and nobody wanted to buy it.
8:20His marriage was falling apart.
8:22His wife was going to leave him.
8:24His cousin and best friend, Anthony, was dying of cancer.
8:28His sister, his closest confidant, was no longer speaking to him.
8:33His business partner had cut him out of his life.
8:37JFK Jr. thought it was a joke at first, because nobody ever left John F.
8:41Kennedy Jr.'s life. He was John F.
8:43Kennedy Jr. This guy had enough after JFK physically assaulted him in that magazine's offices.
8:49He did not have the internal resources to deal with one of those public humiliations,
8:54let alone a panoply of them.
8:57And so that's what I believe.
8:59Wow. So that's bleak. Yeah, that is very, very bleak.
9:04Why do you think, and the answer may well be, the Crown, Buck made fun
9:08of me initially, is a really well done show.
9:11And I can understand why there is a strong appeal.
9:16Can I just, as background for you, Maureen, I just think the whole fascination with
9:19the British royal family, particularly for Americans, is absurd.
9:22I think that they're also nepotistic clowns that don't do anything of any value.
9:26But, but, the Crown was a really good show.
9:29So there's that. Thank you, guys.
9:32Yes, I agree. It's a really good, there is mythologizing in the Crown as well.
9:37You know, with Diana, I think it would have been far more intriguing if they
9:41had really leaned into her personality disorder.
9:43You know, she stalked one of her married lovers.
9:47Like, she just prank called the house.
9:49Like, the princess of Wales.
9:51The doctor, right? The doctor guy?
9:53Or no? He was an art dealer.
9:55Oh, art dealer. She did also stalk the heart doctor, yeah.
9:58But the art dealer who was married.
10:01So I just, I think, had they, you know, and Carolyn Bessette, it's the same
10:05thing with love story. The business partner who eventually walked out of John's life, she
10:11would prank call him multiple times a day and into the middle of the night.
10:15And he would pick up the phone, and this is what he would hear on
10:17the other end. You should get the F out of John's life.
10:20He hates you. Everybody hates you.
10:22Everybody hates you at the office.
10:24Just, you're bringing everybody down.
10:26Why don't you leave? You're a loser.
10:27I mean, this is, you know, sixth grade girl stuff.
10:31Why do you think this show is so popular?
10:33Because it is. Like, I made fun of it.
10:36My wife watched it. Carrie watched it.
10:38It has really resonated with, I would, my guess is, like I said, I think
10:42it's a lot of times it's women 20 to 50.
10:45Why is this show so popular?
10:48Why do you think it has connected?
10:50Yes, and I'm going to also bet that demographic.
10:52has a lot of disposable income i have several theories yeah um one it's a
10:59cinderella story but it's a real life cinderella story to a point right the heir
11:05to camelot quote i put that in quotes and a girl who came out of
11:08nowhere he could have had anybody so it's this real sort of wish fulfillment romantic
11:13fantasy um there it's mythologizing which has been going on since the dawn of humanity
11:19um and it's also that last moment in new york before the internet you know
11:26and it was a moment when media mattered you know when these people with the
11:31stories that the media chose to tell how they chose to tell them that that
11:35was that was what everybody believed we're in a much more complicated time and it's
11:39not in it's no mistake that they make sure to highlight the twin towers in
11:45multiple skyscrapes and backdrops in that series it is the book is the 90s tell
11:52tell the book but i mean i do think there's a huge amount of 90s
11:55nostalgia that has captured much of the people who did not live in the 90s
11:59if that may i see it on my own kids i was just plugging maureen's
12:02book because carrie's read it cover to cover ask not about the kennedys and how
12:06they treated women and everybody no this is all true by the way maureen i
12:09didn't get a choice in this like clay you know i clay and i talked
12:12i was like my wife she says you got to have maureen callahan on to
12:15talk about this show and the kennedys and everything else so she's a fan yeah
12:19when when wifey's an actual fan i'm like i gotta have the person on the
12:23show so uh so yeah i know she loved the book and and your analysis
12:26on this stuff and now by the way she's shouting from downstairs that we have
12:29to have you on the next time you have something really juicy on a celebrity
12:33takedown because you see through all the nonsense so we're gonna have you back okay
12:37thank you guys so much it was really fun what a pleasure the nerve is
12:42the podcast go check it out clay i'll tell you all about look this is
12:47uh serious coming out of that but it is a very very popular uh show
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14:35in to clay and buck and uh i'm just jumping in there i'm already getting
14:39people saying they love they love the maureen callahan uh the the flamethrower she takes
14:44out there just lets it rip i mean the murder suicide idea has that is
14:49that prominently discussed about yeah have you ever have you ever heard that i mean
14:54for people watching on video i think i was like whoa you could see me
14:59react i've never heard that theory from anyone before on the on the death of
15:03jfk jr well the fact that he was flying a plane that he was clearly
15:07not qualified to fly in conditions that he shouldn't have been flying while he was
15:11drunken on painkillers and recovering from a broken bone and was in danger and by
15:17the way what she's saying to be clear because i i read her article on
15:20this too this is all matter the stuff is matter of record right she's not
15:24this isn't conspiracy theorizing when she talks about the ntsb records that's all black box
15:30recording the plane the commercial jet was saying into the control tower i assume at
15:36boston logan hey guys there's some stupid plane ahead of us that's like not responding
15:41what's going like so this is yeah that is a fact that is real i
15:44mean can you imagine we all saw what happened in dc when just that that
15:47was a black hawk helicopter right you know maybe a little bigger than the plane
15:51that he was in but it was sort of a similar situation in terms of
15:54the risk factor to that incoming commercial jet so it wasn't even just that he
15:58killed obviously two other people along with himself in the process clay he could have
16:03brought down a plane with 50 to 100 people on it by being honestly just
16:06by being a selfish idiot reckless by engaging in reckless behavior and yeah look um
16:13that show was super popular i after i i tweeted about it yesterday and somebody
16:18i know reached out and said you I think it's that that shows popularity is
16:23entirely 90s nostalgia and I didn't think about because I don't think most men have
16:29any real understanding of how prominent the Cinderella fantasy is for women.
16:35I mean there's a reason why all of you who have little girls the entire
16:39Disney princess thing every little girl dreams of being a prince a princess finding their
16:46prince charming. I mean that is still something I think that little girls experience so
16:50Carolyn Bissette I hadn't really thought about it is a Cinderella like character to women
16:55in that she's getting this you know effective American prince in John F.
17:00Kennedy Jr. in terms of his fame and his good looks and all those things.
17:05But so I hadn't thought about that but I did the 90s nostalgia aspect to
17:10this somebody reached out and said hey there's a moment where like there's a phone
17:14message and they don't get it because back in the day if you didn't like
17:19if you went on vacation unless you were calling back to try to check your
17:23messages you might not get a phone call that somebody made for you for days
17:27because you didn't have a cell phone.
17:28And it is kind of interesting to Maureen's point the 90s before the internet kind
17:35of took over before everybody had cell phones and was reachable at all time.
17:39I do believe that we're going to be going into an era book here's a
17:43prediction in the next decade.
17:45I think people are going to go on vacations and be unreachable again like the
17:49more wealthy you are I think the more you're going to want to go on
17:52a vacation and be like yeah you cannot find me I will not talk to
17:56you for a week. I'm going on vacation I think that's going to rise more
17:59and more in popularity. Look right now going on all over Israel super difficult situation
18:08as missiles continue to rain down there no matter where you are in the country
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18:54ifcj .org. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
19:01Let's go into the guy that I never would have believed would become the most
19:06sane Democrat in the country but he is John Fetterman and this is pretty awful.
19:11This was a pro -Iran and Hamas protest that happened in Philadelphia and I want
19:20you to listen to what was being chanted this is cut 32 this happened in
19:26Philadelphia. Until we have done everything in our power to bring the United States to
19:32its knees, let us not lose sight of the enemy.
19:35For every U .S. military base that crumbles and for every U .S.
19:39soldier who returns home in the casket, we cheer.
19:47Hamas, Hezbollah, also Allah, all of the resistance forces we celebrate.
19:52These popular forces on the ground spend every waking moment in direct confrontation with Zionism
19:57and they rely on a strong Iranian state to maintain their fighting capacity.
20:02Okay, she said, I think that's a woman, although I've been wrong before.
20:06For every U .S. soldier who comes back in a casket, we cheer.
20:11If you had difficulty hearing what was being said, again, that's in Philadelphia.
20:17That was a rally that they were having in support of Iran.
20:22And John Fetterman has been going off on the Democrat Party.
20:27And I wanted to just play a couple of these different cuts.
20:29Here he is saying, Democrat Party is being held hostage by the far left flank
20:35from putting the country first and reopening the H .S., which would allow the TSA
20:40agents to get paid. Buck, they're about to have their third different missed paycheck.
20:44So that's six weeks of not being paid for the TSA agents.
20:48Cut 22 here. Do the right thing.
20:51Put the country ahead of the party.
20:54Now there's a huge rally, you know, another no kings kinds of protests.
20:59So now it's also probably motivating some people in my party that they might be
21:05afraid to reopen now because they are demanding these kinds of extremes in what they
21:11think is a solution, that there was ever going to be a solution.
21:15Okay, and then here he is saying, shutting down the government, always wrong.
21:20TSA agents are struggling. Cut 23.
21:24It's always wrong, regardless whatever the party is doing it, shutting down our government.
21:30And you can see the kinds of chaos that's created across our right now.
21:34They're selling their blood. They have to take, you know, pay loans and just this
21:41kinds of chaos. So it's fundamentally wrong.
21:45And that's why I refuse to be a part of it.
21:48Buck, what percentage of this audience, and you and I have been in this camp
21:52before, what percentage of this audience do you think could go a month and a
21:57half without being paid at their current job and be perfectly fine with that?
22:02Because I do think it's important to contextualize what's going on here.
22:06We're talking about now six weeks.
22:08That's three different pay periods without getting any dollars at all from the job that
22:13you've been going and working at for six weeks now.
22:17I would bet, what do you think, 65 % of people, of those of you
22:21that are still working, I know some people are retired, some people don't have full
22:24-time jobs, but of those that are working full -time listening to us today, I
22:29would bet 65%, 60 % of people out there would be in significant financial constraints
22:34if they didn't get paid for six weeks.
22:37Well, that mirrors what the stats are nationwide, and that's exactly what I would assume
22:45is true. Because, you know, we have all 50 states represented in listenership, and so,
22:51yeah, I would think it's about 30 % of those with us right now, of
22:55all of you with us, could weather this storm financially pretty okay, but 70 %
23:02would be running up some credit card debt, asking a landlord maybe for a month
23:07of grace or something. I mean, that's where reality is for 70 % of Americans,
23:1265 % to 70%. And it's just so cruel.
23:16You'll notice Democrats complain so much if Trump wants to do any cuts to any
23:20federal government jobs or do anything like that at all, and yet they'll turn around
23:24and throw TSA under the bus if it benefits them politically without a second thought.
23:29They don't care. It's not just TSA, by the way.
23:31But it's also, it's DHS more broadly, as we know.
23:33Coast Guard and others are also affected by this.
23:35So I think it's, dare I say, it is disgraceful.
23:40It is deplorable. Yeah, and by the way, Elon Musk offered to pay the TSA
23:48agents, and there was a decision made that it was probably not legal.
23:52And rather than getting into a legal battle over whether that was permitted or not,
23:57the Trump administration decided they would say thank you but decline his willingness to pay.
24:05I just, I come back to this should just not be allowed to happen.
24:09And I'm looking right now, the headline is CNN, the amount of workers that are
24:15calling out. Again, it appears to be constantly New York City, Houston, Atlanta, New Orleans,
24:24and those cities by Atlanta, if I didn't say it, overwhelmingly dealing with the biggest
24:32issues here. But I just think this should be eliminated once and for all.
24:36I don't think you should be able to go to work and not be paid.
24:41And I understand some of you say, well, they're going to get paid eventually.
24:44Okay, but again, I come back to how many of you could go six weeks
24:48at your jobs not being paid at all, knowing that it might be months before
24:54you got paid for the time that you're working.
24:56I just, this is not what they signed up for.
24:59And unfortunately, we're losing hundreds of employees, and it's a total mess.
25:05And again, I think the important thing to keep in mind here is Democrats have
25:08decided this is a price worth paying because they want to keep as many people
25:13as they can from getting deported who are in this country illegally.
25:17They're making citizens suffer for their attempt to protect non -citizens.
25:24Yes, and they're also going after TSA.
25:27I mean, when TSA is affected by this, I know it's DHS more broadly, but
25:30TSA has nothing to do with what their objections are.
25:34So this is Democrats pulling the fire alarm, so to speak.
25:38This is lying in the streets so the cars can't get by.
25:41I mean, it's obstruction. What they're doing is just pure obstruction of government administration, and
25:47they're doing it under cover of caring so much about what happened in Minneapolis.
25:51How many Democrat members of Congress could even name both the people who were killed
25:54in their altercations with ICE in Minneapolis?
25:58At this point, I think they can name one.
26:00I doubt most of them could even name both of them right now.
26:02They don't care is the point.
26:03They don't actually care about any of this.
26:05They just want power, and they're willing to make people miserable, and they're willing to
26:08make Americans suffer and slow down your travel and cause all kinds of disruptions to
26:13commerce, to businesses, because they're not getting their way, and because they don't have anything
26:17else to go on here with Trump.
26:19Yeah, are they hoping that something terrible happens in the Iran war so that they
26:23can then use that? Sure, but it hasn't happened yet.
26:25So, Clay, this is the best they've got.
26:28This is a – we mentioned this before we were going to have our guest
26:32on, I think, and I wanted to come back to it.
26:34This is from Kash Patel, and IED – we mentioned this.
26:38This news just came out about an hour ago now, 45 minutes or so.
26:43An IED was placed at MacDill Air Force Base, home to CENTCOM and U .S.
26:50Special Operations Command. A brother and a sister have now been indicted.
26:53One is in custody for accessory and evidence tampering, and the primary suspect is charged
26:59with explosives offensives is currently in China.
27:02The FBI, working with our partners, will continue pursuing all these responsible and ensure they're
27:07brought to justice. They say this is tied to the Iran war.
27:12The device was planted there.
27:14So, the reason why – Why I bring it up is, again, we had the
27:19situation, Buck, in Detroit, north of Detroit.
27:22We had the situation at Old Dominion University.
27:25These are terror attacks, by the way, by situations.
27:28Austin and the attempted terror attack in New York City.
27:33And now we have this situation that is coming out that was attempted in Florida.
27:38And, again, I mean, FBI Tampa accused of hiding and attempting to set off an
27:47IED. And we'll see what exactly happens for this.
27:51But on March 16th, FBI Tampa announced that a suspicious package had been discovered.
27:57And they were then able to track down where it was.
28:00And they believe it was connected to what's going on in Iran.
28:04So yet another would -be attempt to create an element of terror, kill people.
28:11And the reason why I bring that up in conjunction with the TSA is you
28:15would think of all times that we would want the TSA to be as safe
28:19as possible. It would be now when we know that there have been even more
28:24aggressive attempts to bring terror attacks to this country than in the past.
28:29It just, to me, is indefensible.
28:32All right, let's hop into some of our calls here, Clikes.
28:35We've got a lot stacked up and also some of our talkbacks.
28:38We have Randy in Cocoa, Florida.
28:43What's going on, Randy? Hi, how are you doing?
28:47We're great. Great. I and my wife have a huge amount of respect for you,
28:53too. We listen to you every day, if at all possible.
28:57And you have no idea how invaluable what you do for the country is.
29:03Thank you so much. But I wanted to talk about Iran.
29:09And there is an aspect to the conflict there that I can't believe it's been
29:15overlooked. I spend a lot of time yelling at my radio that we need to
29:20take a page from World War II when we dropped hundreds and hundreds of small
29:26arms and tons of ammunition, explosives, first aid, communications gear to the resistance fighters of
29:33Europe. And I can't for the life of me understand why we're not doing that
29:38for the resistance in Iran.
29:41It would be a military asset that would be cost -effective beyond belief.
29:46We'd be making good on a promise that we made to those people to watch
29:51out for them and take care of them.
29:52Any solution to the Iran conflict that does not involve the complete and total removal
29:59of the theocracy is not a victory.
30:02It is an illusion of victory.
30:05And we will regret it.
30:07We will fight this war all over again within 10 years if we leave those
30:10people in power. They have got to go just like the Nazis had to go
30:14at the end of World War II.
30:16Thank you for the call and the historic analogy.
30:19Buck, I haven't heard anybody make this suggestion.
30:21My guess would be that right now the IRGC is still in control of much
30:28of Iran and that if we were to drop weapons, we think those weapons would
30:32end up in the hands of our adversaries as opposed to the adversaries of the
30:37government. Would that be your sign off on what you would expect is the rationale
30:42so far for why weapons drops are not occurring?
30:45Yeah, we don't have the networks on the ground to get the weapons, too.
30:49We don't know who we'd be trying to get the weapons, too.
30:52We were the British and the French, for example, the allies.
30:56The Brits knew that there were people in France who did not want the Nazis
31:00there and in charge, and they weren't that hard to find under the occupation, Vichy
31:05government and all that. I don't think we know in Iran.
31:10I mean, we're the invaders, technically, so it's a little bit of a sketchier situation
31:15with regard to that, although I wish we could get some resistance going on the
31:18ground. Janine in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, wants to chat.
31:21What's up, Janine? I know this is probably a long shot, but I was wondering
31:28if we could compile a list of the TSA workers and set up a GoFundMe
31:33and have Elon Musk or other people help to donate to them, even if it's
31:39done state by state. But I'm sure that there's federal regulations that we have to
31:43work around. I think the problem is, first of all, how would we – you're
31:52saying, why can't we all raise money to pay the TSA salaries?
31:55Didn't Elon offer to do it himself, Clay, and that was kind of brushed aside?
32:00First of all, how much money are we talking about?
32:02Well, there's 50 ,000 employees six weeks.
32:05If the average employee is making $50 ,000 a year, the math on that would
32:11be roughly $1 ,000 a week per – $6 ,000 times $50 ,000.
32:17Who wants to do that math?
32:18We're looking at $300 million or $3 billion or what is that?
32:23I think it's $300 million.
32:24There we go. $300 million sounds right.
32:27I'm doing math on my calculator right now.
32:29That was pretty good, by the way.
32:30I think McKinsey would definitely hire you.
32:32That was impressive. Yes, $300 million.
32:35So, yeah, with $300 million, I don't know what the biggest GoFundMe ever has been,
32:39but I would guess that's orders of magnitude larger.
32:41but I would guess that's orders of magnitude larger.
32:42And, again, The thing I would say is they're eventually going to get the money.
32:46So it's not as if they are being, it's the fact that they're not being
32:50paid currently. And again, all of your bills, as you well know, do not stop.
32:56And so the average person out there doesn't have that luxury.
33:00And a lot of these people have kids and they're taking time off and all
33:03of those things. And so, again, I think this is a significant, significant story that
33:12is indefensible, regardless of your political posture.
33:15And if I were having to stand in line for hours at any of these
33:19airports, I would be furious.
33:21I would be absolutely furious.
33:24We'll come back and close out thoughts with all of you here before.
33:28I can't believe it'll be Friday tomorrow.
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34:45Welcome back in. Play Travis Buck Sexton's show.
34:49We are finishing up the Thursday edition of the program.
34:55A lot of good reactions out there.
34:57If you're a pit bull owner, you should be super angry at Buck.
35:01And he would enjoy your comments.
35:04We got a couple of talkbacks, by the way.
35:06I don't think we've hit these talkbacks yet.
35:08And we appreciate all the callers.
35:11I was going to say, unlike the pit bulls, I'm not dangerous to disagree with.
35:15Very well said. Man, let me see.
35:19I'm going through. We get so many text messages during the course of the day,
35:22it's hard to keep track.
35:24A, Dax from Birmingham. He actually agrees completely with the analogy from earlier in the
35:31show. News Radio 105 .5.
35:34Just on your analogy of the pit bull and ARs compared to BB guns and
35:39chihuahuas, was dead on. I've had nothing but American pit bull terriers my whole life.
35:45And you're exactly right. I do own an AR -15 as well.
35:49And you have to be in control and know that you're in control at every
35:54moment. Like you said, you just have to be aware of the risk.
35:58I'm with the Dax gets it.
35:59You want to own a pit bull, it's fine.
36:00You're carrying an AR -15 canine, you're not carrying a BB gun canine.
36:05It's fine. Just know that.
36:07Tina, Green Bay, Wisconsin. Hit us fast here, Tina.
36:11I'm traveling on Sunday, and I'd love to give them money.
36:16TSA agents, I think we missed the opening of her statement.
36:18She wants to know if you can give them tips.
36:20Buck, the answer is no.
36:22That is not acceptable because they are public employees.
36:25They are not allowed to accept tips.
36:27So many of the audience out here is super kind, and I appreciate you guys
36:31thinking of everybody who's having to work without pay, but that is not legal for
36:36them to be accepting tips.
36:38I remember when I was in the NYPD Intel unit, we weren't even allowed to
36:42accept a cup of coffee from the downstairs coffee shop from the office.
36:46That's how things are. I'm leaving.
36:47Have aふりôn e -cholled and you'll be%.
36:47That's perfect. If you had anything they wanted to do...
36:47Thank you.