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0:11I was going to film the special and then I just fucking fell off.

0:15I had a margarita at dinner once and I was like, all right, I'm back.

0:18Yeah, that'll do it. It's just that one.

0:20You think I'll just have one.

0:21It was nice. I was drinking too much because, you know, owning a club there

0:27all the time. And, you know, everyone's like, you want a shot?

0:31You want a drink? I can imagine.

0:32When I'm at your club, I get blackout drunk every time.

0:35Like an actual problem. Like I walk down the stairs, I'm like, what the fuck

0:37just happened? I drink so much at the mothership.

0:40Austin in general. Are we on?

0:42I think we're rolling. Yeah, the problem is Shane.

0:44Oh, yeah. He's an animal.

0:46I don't know how he does it.

0:47I did the Bridgestone Arena with him on Friday night.

0:50I mean, first of all, just insane.

0:52Like 20 ,000 people. Right.

0:53I mean, fucking. It's nuts.

0:55Saturday night I did 95 people at the Dojo of Comedy.

0:58Is that the first time you did a big one in the round?

1:00In the round, yeah. In the round is like oddly intimate, isn't it?

1:03Yeah. Because everyone's facing each other.

1:05Yeah. It's pretty cool. It feels like it's a club around you on the bottom.

1:08You kind of like. It's so funny because people get like so in their head.

1:11They're like, dude, it's all these people.

1:12It's crazy. I'm like, I perform to half sold out comedy clubs.

1:16You know how much more nerve wracking it is to make eye contact with your

1:18fans that are disappointed that they're in a half sold out room?

1:21The 20 ,000 people that are just there to be like, fucking Shane.

1:24It's one of those things you just do it a couple of times and you

1:27get, it gets normal. Yeah.

1:29Like all things. I'm sure.

1:30Yeah. Like all things. That's more fun, dude.

1:32It is very fun. Oh, it's so much more fun.

1:34It's very fun. I would, I would, just so you guys know, I would way

1:36rather perform to 20 ,000 people than a hundred.

1:39I just want you to know that.

1:40I don't know if that's a unique idea, but.

1:42Yeah. A hundred's good too, though.

1:43Cause a hundred really shows you if your bits are bullshit.

1:46Yeah. You know, a hundred shows you the weak links and bits.

1:51You see them checking their phone.

1:52No, it's in, you feel it.

1:54Yeah. You feel like you're delivering them horse shit.

1:58You know, you feel like you're not appreciating what you're saying.

2:01Yeah. You know what I mean?

2:03Of course. And I think it's also like, uh, it's such a spectacle when you

2:07go to like an arena where it's like, people are like so lit and pumped

2:11to just like be there.

2:12They're so happy. They're so excited.

2:13Yeah. I don't know how Sabrina Carpenter just came up in my feed from Coachella,

2:17little hot child. And, uh, she's like, this is all my algorithm is now with

2:22Sabrina Carpenter. My daughter loves her.

2:23I'm sure. Yeah. Uh, my girlfriend loves her.

2:26And she's got some good jams.

2:28That espresso song. That's a really good song.

2:30Yeah. Manchild. She's got some songs.

2:32That's my shit, dude. It's become my shit.

2:34I never heard any of her music before this past week, but it's the Coachella

2:38stuff. It's all been showing up and like, I'm watching these girls watch Sabrina Carpenter.

2:41They're so happy. So happy.

2:43They're like nothing. Yeah. Like they're like just, they're like just having the best moment

2:48of their life. These 16 year old girls are like, that's fucking Sabrina Carpenter.

2:51That's why like people got to chill on things that they think suck.

2:56Cause it's just not for you, man.

2:58And that's okay. Yeah. That's okay.

3:00Like spending all your time dwelling on things that aren't for you is so crazy.

3:06It's a crazy thing. It's such a waste of time.

3:08It's internet culture. That's what it is.

3:09Like the internet and social media became a thing where we gave everyone a voice.

3:12Everyone has to have an opinion.

3:13Yep. Nobody wants to admit they're wrong.

3:15Right. And they have to have a hot take.

3:17Everything that happens within minutes.

3:19Yep. Not even a moment to, to, to let me reflect.

3:21Let me just do a little bit of research.

3:22Let me just look up a couple of facts.

3:24They just jump into whatever their opinion is.

3:26And that's the same thing when it comes to like, um, you know, entertainment and

3:29you know, all your, you, dude, you know better than anyone.

3:31I was, I was talking to Jamie before, like you and Tony have become so

3:34big that it's become like, um, like it's like culture.

3:38It's not even like, like I know you guys, you know what I'm saying?

3:40So it's like, it's, but it's like when I remove myself from it, it's like,

3:43you guys are as big as Sabrina Carpenter.

3:45Like having a conversation about Joe Rogan going to the white house or Sabrina Carpenter

3:49at Coachella, that's trending shit.

3:51You know what I'm saying?

3:52And people feel like they have to come out and just give their opinion on

3:55it right away. If you don't like it, don't like it.

3:58But that's also like, if you don't want people to have their opinions on you,

4:03don't go to the white house.

4:05That's a great point. You know, like I don't fault them for getting, you know,

4:11whatever, whatever hot take, getting mad at me for whatever reason, go ahead.

4:15That's, that's your thing. You're, you're allowed to, you're supposed to, like if you're a

4:20comic too, you're supposed to shit on people if you think they're doing something stupid.

4:24Do you get offended when comics shit on you?

4:26No. Never. No. I mean, I'm in the, I'm in this weird zeitgeist thing.

4:31I don't get offended. Some of them I think it's lame because I think I

4:34know them, like I'm friends with them and and they're like using me to get

4:38clout. Like if you really had a problem with me, you could just text me.

4:41Yeah. You know, if you really felt like I was an anti -vaxxer and I

4:45was endangering people's lives, fucking text me, bro.

4:48You know me. Yeah. It's weird.

4:50It's weird when people do that.

4:51And maybe they feel like an obligation, even though they know you to speak publicly.

4:55There's a lot of people that feel like they, they have to use their voice.

4:58Like when something is wrong, they have to come out and say it, which.

5:02It's also boredom. They just.

5:03I understand the inclination. I understand the inclination and that people will tell you that,

5:08that you need to use your voice.

5:09And if you feel like you need to use your voice.

5:12Okay. But what I'm saying is there's far too many people out there dwelling on

5:17things they do not like versus things they like.

5:20And this life is fucking short.

5:23It does. I am 58 years old.

5:25I'm almost 59. That's dead.

5:27That's old as fuck. You got 20 years.

5:29Best case scenario. Right. If everything goes great.

5:32And what are those 20 years?

5:32Like, I mean, I'm holding it together thanks to Waste Well and my obsessive need

5:38to work out. But other than that, man, I feel it.

5:41I feel it slipping away.

5:42It's gonna. It's crazy. I'm 44.

5:45I just turned 44 a couple of weeks ago.

5:47And like best case scenario, like absolute best case scenario.

5:51Midlife. Midlife. Yeah. Best case.

5:53My aunt has never worked out a day in her life.

5:56She's 89 years old. She's just a fat old Italian lady.

5:59Yeah. I think that's the move, man.

6:01It might be, dude. Why am I so obsessed with trying to get in shape

6:04and eating right and doing all this other stuff?

6:06My fat aunt just does whatever she wants.

6:08And she's just an old Italian lady.

6:10She's just gonna she's she's as young as I've ever remembered her.

6:14She's so with it It's so funny to me.

6:16I've vacationed in Italy a bunch of times and I've gone to these little small

6:19towns There's always like a really nice restaurant this little small town You have to

6:23take like a van up into the hills You're on like a cliffside with like

6:27no guardrail you get to these places and you see these people having these like

6:32three and a half hour dinners Everyone's relaxed.

6:36They're all laughing their families around Yeah, and four generations is a hundred and seventy

6:41year old, but no one's stressed out Yeah, they're not all freaked out like Americans

6:46are. They're also not fat These thin people they're and they're eating bread They're eating

6:54bread and pasta and fucking gelato and I went to Italy twice cigarettes and they

7:00live to be a hundred my favorite place to visit Italy I brought my son

7:04for a father -son trip there years ago.

7:06Then I just brought my whole family last year We went to Venice and Rome

7:09and uh, yeah, dude, I and I have like a gluten intolerance Like if I

7:13eat a sandwich, I'm just gonna you'll see it in my face like all I

7:17did was eat pasta bread Gelato the whole time the whole time and you were

7:22fine. I lost five pounds I lost five fucking pounds people are like dude.

7:26It's the walking I was like it's not the walking Walking does not lose fucking

7:30you don't lose weight from walking if you're a person who actively exercises We are

7:35being poisoned. Yeah 100 % and the you know RFK juniors and working really hard

7:40to try to stop a lot of what is fucking with us with our diet

7:45in America God the resistance is crazy.

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10:13what side they're on and they go.

10:14I don't care how good it might be Fuck you.

10:18You're part of trump's cabinet It's a little of that but what i'm talking about

10:22is the resistance from corporations.

10:24Oh, yeah I'm sure and the effect that they have on policy and then the

10:28reality of economics like here was a big one like he had to um He

10:34had to pass So there's this thing you do you know glyphosate is no Okay,

10:39so it's a an herbicide that they spray on plants And uh, it's super bad

10:45for you. It's super bad for you It's banned in a lot of countries, but

10:49it's used ubiquitously in the united states And there's some extraordinary number of people Oh,

10:55is this something they On the wheat is this what they're spraying on the wheat

10:58exactly So they spray it on the wheat as a desiccator So they spray it

11:02on the wheat after the wheat has already been harvested to keep it from growing

11:05mold Which is crazy. They're gonna spray poison to make sure that life doesn't grow

11:10on your wheat That's really what's going on.

11:13It's like like mold is a type of life Yeah, and they want to make

11:17sure it doesn't grow on this wheat that they're gonna sell you so they spray

11:20poison So RFK jr. Was trying really hard to stop that but trump essentially said

11:27that if they passed This ban on glyphosate and they forced all these farmers to

11:33stop moving glyphosate. It would destroy The farm market in America.

11:38It would destroy it Like 90 something percent of these people use glyphosate Wow And

11:44you're like That's because they have to like it's it preserves it essentially so they

11:48can keep it longer and for wheat and and then corn actually has like roundup

11:53ready corn So you could spray it on the corn it survives this shit.

11:57Yeah So I get kills all the weeds around it, but the corn survives.

12:01We get this nuclear corn.

12:02It's bizarre and what's crazy is Our whole system depends on it like we've got

12:09a bad system and the solution is Keep the bad system for now because if

12:14we don't if we don't feed people poison then we'll go under It's so crazy,

12:21and that's how that's what it is in America.

12:23Yeah, that's why when you go to In Italy, you get that Italian flour, which

12:27is heirloom wheat. So, you know, Maynard from Tool, he explained this to me because

12:31he owns restaurants. And he said that when you're getting wheat from America, it's like

12:37got a higher yield per acre because it's like more gluten dense.

12:42It has more complex glutens in it.

12:45And your body just goes, whoa, like this is a lot.

12:49You know, that feeling like, whoa, because you're essentially eating glue.

12:52Right. When you eat pasta that you have it in Italy or I'm not saying

12:57it doesn't have calories, but there's a difference in the way it feels when it

13:01goes in your body. There's not a resistance.

13:03It feels like food. When I become a glutton and I eat like a whole

13:07pizza in America, if it's not at a good spot that, you know, uses Italian

13:11wheat, I feel like I fucking poison myself.

13:14I literally feel, I mean, almost like a hangover, a weird, like you feel it

13:21like in your veins. So I don't know if that's the complex glutens.

13:24I don't know if that's glyphosate.

13:26I think the glyphosate thing is probably dangerous, but yet also possibly overstated.

13:33So it seems like the very low levels of glyphosate, our body can tolerate it.

13:38But the real question is like, why are we fucking tolerating it?

13:41Like, why is that there?

13:42Yeah. Because there's people that think that that's what you're reacting to when you're eating

13:45wheat, that you're reacting to your body.

13:47Just like, what is this?

13:48I don't like this fucking herbicide.

13:50Well, this also happened as I got older.

13:52I don't even know what it was.

13:53Like, I just, I never really had an issue with like pizza, pasta, wheat, anything

13:57when I was a kid.

13:58I could eat a peanut butter jelly sandwich.

14:00So that's my mid -20s.

14:01It just hit me in a different way.

14:03And I don't actually, I don't know if you can develop a gluten intolerance or

14:06a gluten allergy. It seems like a lot, it happens to a lot of people

14:08as they get older. I wonder what that is.

14:10I wonder if that's just your body's just like, E, fucking enough, dude.

14:13Yeah. Your body just gives up on it.

14:15It's like, but when you were young.

14:16It's running more efficiently, just naturally.

14:18You're young. You're full of hormones.

14:20Your body, the cells are replicating perfectly.

14:23Everything's firing off. Just jerking off 30 times a day.

14:24Yeah, you're a fucking animal.

14:25Getting it out. Everything's great.

14:27And I think your body can just burn it off.

14:29Like, that's why hangovers weren't as bad when I was 20 either.

14:32No, yeah. Hangovers were no big deal.

14:34Just have some water the next day and you'll be good.

14:36Yeah. It was not that bad.

14:37Dude. Hangovers. If I have a hangover at 58, I'm like, what are you trying

14:41to die early, you fucking idiot?

14:43That's what I was saying about Shane at the stadium or the arena before.

14:46It's like, we get there and I wasn't even drinking.

14:49I stopped drinking regularly here and there.

14:52But I was just, the best shape and the best mental state I've ever been

14:56in in my life was when I'm completely sober.

14:58Completely sober, eating healthy, exercising every day.

15:01That right there is the best.

15:02It's the best version of everybody.

15:03It's not a unique thing to myself, right?

15:05But Shane, I was like, you know, he's fucking Shane.

15:07He was like, come on, you gotta have a drink.

15:08Yeah. So I was like, I started drinking whiskey.

15:11The best version of Shane is 11 Bud Lice.

15:15After 11, he's just unstoppable.

15:18He's a jolly drunk. That's why.

15:20I don't know how he does it.

15:21I don't know if I could have done it more than two, three nights in

15:24a row. I would die.

15:25You ever smoke weed with a rapper?

15:26It's the same shit. It's like people get used to things.

15:29Yeah, I have. You know, try smoking weed with Wiz Khalifa.

15:31Wiz Khalifa should try to smoke weed with me.

15:33Really? Are you kidding me?

15:34Are you calling him out?

15:35That's crazy. I used to be, bring it on, Wiz Khalifa.

15:37I used to be, I mean, I'm talking about an all day, every day, get

15:40up in the morning, just to get going, five dabs.

15:44Like, real deal pothead. Blunt to the head.

15:48I smoked a blunt to the head a week ago, right before I trained.

15:51And my sparring partner was like, you smell like weed.

15:54I was like, I could never in a million years.

15:55But it's just, I'm so used to it that I can just go.

15:58Yeah, it becomes a normal state.

16:00I'm sure jujitsu, everyone smokes weed before I train.

16:02A lot of people smoke.

16:03It's the dirty secret of jujitsu.

16:05A lot of people smoke weed before jujitsu.

16:07What is Wiz doing? Up the nose?

16:08He's taking a nose dab, yeah.

16:09Oh, no. You don't need to do that.

16:11Why would you do that, Wiz?

16:11It's a new thing to do.

16:12That dude's jacked. You ever see what Wiz looks like?

16:14Yeah. He got really into Muay Thai.

16:16Nice. Like, heavily in, so he brings the guy with him everywhere he goes and

16:18hits pads. That's good. He's fucking ripped, dude.

16:21I mean, like a 10 -pack.

16:22Yeah. It's crazy. He looks fucking great.

16:24And his technique looks pretty solid.

16:26Just gets high, kicks shit.

16:27How fun is that? What a life.

16:28Well, there's a thing about when you're high, you feel your muscles more.

16:32Like, you feel, like, the little fibers.

16:34You know, instead of it being a blunt thing, it's like you have access to

16:38all the fibers. Yeah, and it's also, you like, with jujitsu specifically, you get into,

16:44like, a flow state where you close your eyes and you're just fucking feeling things.

16:47And it's like, I think that can actually help it.

16:50I think it's a performance enhancer.

16:52I really do. I always felt like my jujitsu game was 10 % better if

16:55I was high. Really? Yeah, no bullshit.

16:57Yeah, I've really felt that.

16:59I think Eddie would agree with that, too.

17:01I think a lot of people agree with that.

17:02Yeah. You know, I think...

17:04It's the thing with comedy.

17:05It's like, it can be.

17:07It can be. I think if you're getting high every day, and then if you

17:11switch it up, then it's a performance enhancer.

17:13Like, being right now, being completely sober, like, I feel like I'm on Adderall.

17:16Like, I feel like I'm completely locked in in a different way.

17:20Whereas, like, and then I'll stop smoking weed for six months, then I'll go back

17:24to it. I'm like, oh, I've never been more creative.

17:25It's just, I think it's just changing your mindset in whatever way you can do

17:29that. Yeah. That's why people are so locked in, and they're, like, having the same

17:32opinions their entire lives. It's like, somebody called me out on Twitter today.

17:35They were like, dude, you flip -flop constantly on things.

17:37I was like, you mean I've grown?

17:39Yeah. You've been watching me for 15 years on podcasts.

17:41I'm now 44 years old.

17:42I'm Captain Flip -Flop. I'm Captain Flip -Flop.

17:46I just don't think you should be married to your ideas.

17:49I think the real problem is once you say something, and then you have to

17:53defend it, and then once you find out that it's wrong, you fucking panic, and

17:58then you double down, and then you try to defend it in some weird, fucking

18:02circular logic way. And you'll get there.

18:06You'll probably, if you're smart enough, guys will just figure out a way to ass

18:09-backwards their logic. But everyone's in a while.

18:12It's so nice to go, oh, dude, I was completely wrong about that.

18:14See - That you win any argument with a girl.

18:16In this world, the world that you and I are in, we have conversations publicly,

18:21right? And that's something that a lot of people don't do.

18:23So if you have conversations publicly, then the whole world can essentially go, no, you're

18:29wrong, which is very valuable, very valuable for being able to formulate opinions.

18:36Most people don't fucking have that, dude.

18:38So most people - They just like if they're wrong about something and they've said

18:42it publicly and shame people, you know, you better do this because of that and

18:45this and they're wrong. Once they find out they're wrong, they fucking panic and there's

18:50not much you can do about it.

18:51Like you're just wrong. Yeah.

18:53And the only thing you could do if you want to keep any credibility and

18:56say, say, this is what I thought and this is why I thought it.

18:59But I don't think that anymore.

19:00And I was wrong. Yeah.

19:03I fucked that up. But this new information I want you to have too.

19:07Yeah. Because this is what I'm going to tell you why I thought what I

19:09thought and why it changed.

19:11Yeah. I mean, you have to be able to do that.

19:13I think it's just a weird thing in society.

19:14People will not. They will.

19:15They want to pretend they're smarter than they are.

19:18That's the thing, man. Everybody wants to pretend they're fucking smarter than they are.

19:20We're all talking monkeys. We're idiots.

19:23All of us. Every fucking person alive is a talking monkey.

19:26So the Internet is the best and the worst thing that's ever happened because now

19:30all the monkeys can scream.

19:32Yeah. Everybody can get mad.

19:34Everybody can complain. But it's also great.

19:37And you used to have time to reflect.

19:38So what would happen is something would happen, right?

19:40Whatever it is. Some big event, right?

19:42And it happens on Friday.

19:44Right. Like, I don't have.

19:45I got to sit on this until Monday.

19:46I'll talk to my wife or some friends at home.

19:48But it's like, until I get to work on Monday, I can't spout these ideas

19:53and my opinions. And you kind of reflect on it.

19:54You sit on it. You're on the toilet taking a shit and thinking about things.

19:56We don't have that anymore.

19:57It's just all distraction constantly.

20:00And it's like, just. I mean, the amount.

20:02Like, the only time I ever, like, reflect is if I'm working out or I'm

20:06sitting in the steam room.

20:07Right. By yourself. Got to put the phone away.

20:09You literally can't do anything.

20:11Right. But even you're taking a shit, dude.

20:13Back in the day, taking a shit used to be, like, the best thinking time.

20:15People had magazines. Yeah. You know, you sit there reading Life magazine while you're taking

20:20a dump. What you just said was, like, very important.

20:23And this, will you just, so what we're talking about is people being able to

20:29talk about things. Now, imagine what life was like.

20:32Because we both, how old are you?

20:3444. Okay. So you lived it a little bit.

20:36But I really lived it where there was no internet.

20:40And if there was no internet, you couldn't talk to anything about anybody.

20:43Nope. About anybody about anything.

20:46Because everything that came up in the news, like, you'd see it on the news.

20:49You'd go, what is going on?

20:51You'd find to get, like, this quick snippet, and then you'd have to go to

20:53a newspaper, and you'd read the newspaper and go, what the fuck are we doing

20:57in Venezuela? And at this point, 99 % of people are already out.

21:00Even right there, that, people are like, eh, I'm not going to the library.

21:03I'm not getting a newspaper.

21:04And if you're the guy who goes to work, and, you know, how much time

21:07do you have to talk to people about things?

21:09You have stuff to do.

21:10You can't be the guy that corners people when they're getting coffee.

21:13Do you hear what we're doing in Nicaragua?

21:14So we're selling cocaine in Los Angeles to the CIA.

21:16Kurt Mesker if he wasn't a comic.

21:17The CIA is selling cocaine in Los Angeles to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas

21:22in Nicaragua. Did you know that?

21:23And you're like, uh, I got work to do.

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22:10And so you never got to express yourself.

22:13Yeah. What are you going to do, start a fucking ham radio channel?

22:16What are you going to do?

22:17There was no way to express yourself.

22:19That was that. And bro, if you did start a radio channel, here's the crazy

22:22thing. They would lock you up.

22:24Yeah. Do you know that?

22:25You had to have an FCC license.

22:27What was that movie? Yeah, Christian Slater.

22:29Christian Slater. Pump up the volume.

22:30Pump up the volume. Pump up the volume, dude.

22:32Yeah, what he was doing.

22:33He was podcasting from a car before there was podcast.

22:35This is 1990. They were chasing him down, and they were trying to arrest him.

22:39He was the rebel. And wasn't he saying like - Like 17?

22:43Some stuff like, go out there and live your life or something.

22:45What was he saying? Did he have like a pump you up speech?

22:48Everybody was listening to this.

22:49It wasn't even that controversial.

22:51It was like, you know, the man, you know.

22:52Yeah, what was he saying?

22:54Like, he's ranting. It's like low level podcasting.

22:58But he might be the first podcast.

23:00Maybe. No, I'm like, no bullshit.

23:02Yeah. Like that idea in that movie might have been, you know, because it's always

23:07like one idea builds on, and then new inventions, and then builds on.

23:12Yeah. The one idea is this sexy rebel who's out there yelling, fuck the man.

23:19And he's in like a van running from the cops because he's going to put

23:22him in a cage because he made his own radio station.

23:26That's wild. And that's what we're doing right now.

23:28Yeah. There was a, yeah, I mean, I lived pre -internet, you know, and internet

23:32started high school, ninth grade or so.

23:34That's when it started popping off.

23:36Podcasts show you straight up that the free market is much better than, than regulations

23:43by the government. Because you're never going to get this kind of a show.

23:47If the government gets to regulate you and they tell you you can't swear, they

23:52tell you you can't be obscene, there's certain things you can't say.

23:56Well, now it's just, now it's just YouTube and Google that'll tell you that.

23:58But that's what they did.

23:59But they don't do it as much.

24:01No. Not anywhere near as much.

24:02But it's the new way to sort of combat that is demonetization.

24:06Like, the amount of - Right.

24:06But here's the thing. The market dictates that too.

24:09Because if someone else comes along and says, hey, we're not going to do that.

24:12So there's a reason why YouTube has like loosened up some of its content restriction.

24:17Yeah. Because rumble came out, kick came out.

24:20Also, they were wrong. Like a lot of the restrictions were during COVID and they

24:24were wrong. It was crazy.

24:25They were telling people, if you bring up the lab leak theory, we'll kick you

24:28off of YouTube. Yeah. A lot of people.

24:30A lot of people got completely lost their channels, like lost their way to make

24:33money, lost their voice. Well, you could say the earth is flat.

24:35Yeah. There's fucking millions. There's millions of flat earth videos out there.

24:40You could say Bigfoot raped my mom.

24:42You know, you could say anything.

24:43But if you said that it might have come from a lab, you would get

24:48kicked off of YouTube. It's so funny.

24:50We found out that's exactly what happened.

24:52But the market. Sort of shifted and that's how rumble started getting bigger rumble got

24:57bigger specifically Because of the fact there's pushback on YouTube because they literally won't even

25:02let Nick Fuentes on YouTube and he's on rumble and he's like their number one

25:08guy he's killing it on rumble see that's the thing It's like if you hold

25:11something back, you're just gonna make another Version of it that opposes it and they're

25:16gonna have more energy to fight against you because you've you've stopped the truth Yeah,

25:21you've stopped stop the truth about like not like About petty things but really important

25:26things like how a fucking disease went through the whole world You're literally stopping people

25:31from examining the truth, which is weird.

25:35Yeah, there was a good It was real scary.

25:38That was a scary time just like in general to like it was it was

25:41a great time for podcasting Podcasting blew up during kovid that was huge.

25:44Everyone just stayed at home Everyone was like, oh, what are we gonna do?

25:47We have nothing else to do except sit on the internet and listen to podcasts.

25:50Yeah But yeah, it was like just a weird, you know uncertain time even like

25:56physically in life It was uncertain and then you go on the internet and it's

25:59like, oh, I could just like lose everything They could just just take it away

26:02like that all these platforms.

26:04This is why I start This is why I start I'm I do all of

26:06my own things specifically because I am Terrified that my things are gonna be taken

26:10away from me. Yeah, so I have my own platforms my own festival Well, you

26:13were really smart about that early on with gas digital such a good idea.

26:17Thanks such a good idea And it's also like your family base your fan base

26:21is so loyal and so rabid Yeah, you know because they're signed they're like invested

26:26financially. Oh, yeah, and it's there It's a better relationship honestly in a lot of

26:31ways. What's funny is when we started it.

26:32It wasn't it wasn't even completely necessary It was funny as patreon hadn't even didn't

26:37it existed, but it was like, you know guitar players asking for tips There was

26:41nobody podcasting on patreon. We started the platform uncensored ad free for you know behind

26:45a paywall We were unique.

26:46There was really no Anthony Cumia did it There was a couple people that were

26:49doing their thing and Anthony did it specifically because he was fired from xm Yeah,

26:53and he had he had to Um, but we did and it wasn't even like

26:57it wasn't crazy back then Um, but the way everything became censored and you know,

27:03there's all these ads on youtube if there's so much it's feels so like Um,

27:07it feels commercial. It feels like you're watching TV in the late 90s when you're

27:10watching youtube now right now more than ever There's a need for an uncensored ad

27:14free platform and there's not many of them No 100 % and I think you

27:18did the smartest thing by doing that and so here's the argument the argument is

27:21like That if it's everywhere like if it's on youtube, but it's on spotify it's

27:27on everywhere Then there's more potential for growth because it's easier to access that is

27:31true And it's also it's way easier to promote because people could just send each

27:36other like it's natural The algorithms will push it which is yeah, there's that but

27:41it's also sharing Yeah, like if I have if someone has got a good podcast

27:45i'll share it with my friends Yeah, you gotta listen.

27:47This is hilarious And what so that you can't do that if it's a pay

27:51platform So like you'd have to get someone to sign up funny is we we

27:55were so early on a lot of these things I give myself a lot of

27:58credit here because we like before you could screen record on your phone We had

28:02in our app. We had a tool where you can clip clips to share them

28:05to social media So you could do it was like limited to like two or

28:08three clips per episode. Oh, that's great Never worked really was there a time limit

28:14on the clips a minute or two.

28:15Oh, that's a problem. That's a problem Yeah, because like you want like at least

28:20eight Yeah, you know, because like especially if there's a funny back and forth between

28:24you guys Yeah, like if you're doing legions of skanks and you guys are going

28:27off about something Yeah, you need a little more than a couple of minutes.

28:30You gotta sink your teeth into it Yeah, it's otherwise That's the best way to

28:34take things out of context, too You're telling me boy people love doing that.

28:38Yeah, they love doing that But it's also it's like we're gonna ask everybody to

28:41listen to three hours of a podcast.

28:44It's crazy You got to expect that things are gonna get taken out of context.

28:48It's part of the game You know, it's part of the thing we do.

28:51Yeah, I um And nobody really wants a context even when they find out the

28:55context They've been like, well, I already we're saying before I've moved on from that

28:59opinion Tomorrow it's another another day, you know, nobody really cares about anything to be

29:05honest with you It's like the way that the internet has turned people into like

29:09just like Whatever's in front of them.

29:11That's what they care about I mean the the amount of things that were such

29:14a big deal a month ago I mean ice was such a huge deal two

29:18months ago We haven't heard anything about ice since then they you know, it was

29:22the ukraine. What happened to the ukraine?

29:24That war still going on I believe nobody gives a shit still going on It's

29:28just it's not sexy right now.

29:30Yeah, you know, it's like law and order special victims unit, you know season 50.

29:34Yeah, it's like, okay We've seen every angle on rape already It's like it's still

29:42gonna be a big show, you know, it's still important.

29:45It's top 10 Yeah, but it's you know, I'm saying like it's not the number

29:48one thing that we're concerned with where whereas when it popped off when russia invaded

29:51It was like the end of the world.

29:52Yeah And then there was people I literally heard people saying that ukraine should have

29:57never given up its nukes And I was like, okay I could see what you're

30:02saying I could see what you're saying like if they had nukes russia probably wouldn't

30:06invade them, but But ultimately that means we're threatening you with nukes That's the scariest

30:12thing that's fucking crazy. The whole thing's crazy, but it's also it's like why did

30:16this happen? Did they know pushing arms closer and closer to russia have no impact

30:22on this nobody can hit Texas or new york though, right?

30:25Like hawaii's fucked. Oh, they could hit new york.

30:28What do they get in new york?

30:29Oh, yeah, they get hit new york.

30:30You think so fuck you nuke?

30:32Yeah, a hundred percent I've read something a while ago that they can only reach

30:35hawaii or I guess it wasn't it wasn't anyone it was um Who was it

30:39was it russia or some china or so one of them they could only hit

30:42hawaii I had a bit about it in my act and I was like We

30:46had a guy on that was talking about back engineering ufo technology and that they

30:53Had this idea of using it To what they would call an instantaneous Delivery system

31:02of a nuclear bomb because the way these things supposedly can travel I'm a moron,

31:09so I don't understand anything about gravity.

31:11But what they were explaining is that if these crafts work in a way that

31:16has no normal kind of propulsion.

31:19We think of propulsion as like a jet.

31:21The fire goes out the back and the jet goes forward really fast because of

31:25that, right? What they're saying is these beings from wherever the fuck they are, these

31:31people that have back -engineered their crafts, the way they move is not by propulsion.

31:37It's by bending space and time.

31:40It's by doing something to the gravity around it or the actual space of the

31:46universe around it where it can go to another place like instantaneously.

31:51So it's not like it flies.

31:53It's like it just fucking zips over to another part of the universe.

31:58And they can do it like that Tic Tac one that they got on radar.

32:02They got it on the visuals like two different fighter pilots saw it and talked

32:07about it. They have video of it.

32:09This fucking thing went from more than 50 ,000 feet above sea level to sea

32:14level in one second. Less than a second.

32:17So it's like beep, beep, beep, radar.

32:18It went from 50 ,000 feet to that.

32:20So if you could do that with a bomb, you could essentially instantaneously detonate Moscow.

32:26If that's a real technology.

32:29So this is probably why these assholes are hiding all this UFO information.

32:33It's because these assholes had probably were using the – they were like, yeah, we

32:37could travel anywhere in the universe or we could blow up China without them even

32:42knowing it's happening. We could assure that we'll win a nuclear war.

32:45Anybody would have that technology.

32:47The ability to put something somewhere instantly and you put a bomb in it, that's

32:52crazy. Yeah. So that might be what all this UFO bullshit is about.

32:57Yeah. I mean, who knows?

32:58Who knows what's going on?

32:59I mean, like obviously there's something going on, right?

33:03I think where there's smoke, there's fire.

33:05There's too much talk. Have you seen these stories about all these scientists that are

33:08getting whacked? No. Yeah, there's scientists that have gotten whacked and or missing and a

33:14couple of generals as well that's all connected somehow or another to UFO technology and

33:21anti -gravity technology and nuclear scientists.

33:25And there's a bunch of stories that I've read about this and some of them

33:28are like this is like purely exaggerated and a lot of people are – it's

33:33just they're taking that this guy committed suicide and he worked on that and this

33:36guy went missing and he worked on that.

33:38But it's just coincidence. And then there's other people that go, no, no, no, no.

33:42This is – there's too many people.

33:43So now the White House has commented on it.

33:46So they're doing an investigation on this, which makes me think, hopefully, somebody who's really

33:53fucking smart has looked at this information and said there's something there.

33:57Like what these people were working on was very extraordinary and could disrupt a market

34:02or could be something that could be used in a weapon that would destroy another

34:07country. And so the other country sabotages it by killing scientists.

34:11That's shit that we would do.

34:12Think how little we know.

34:14Like the amount of – Yeah.

34:16Like you and I? Yeah.

34:18Just human – just like Americans.

34:19Just the general population. Like the amount of – there's probably the craziest technology ever

34:24that the government has their hands on right now.

34:26It's like we use AI tools and it's like – I can imagine the AI

34:30that the government currently has, right?

34:32Yeah. And that's why that will never disappear.

34:34It's because all of the governments are just sort of at a race to see

34:37who can implement the strongest AI.

34:40So I can't even imagine how crazy it is.

34:43There was one lady that was – that went missing and there's a weird video

34:47of her because it seems like she's drunk.

34:49And she's like talking about like how, you know, this technology that it's real.

34:55But every time that anybody gets close to it, people stop it.

34:59And this lady has gone missing as well.

35:01So it seems like she might have had a couple of drinks or something and

35:04then started ranting about this in some weird video call.

35:07Yeah. But listen, if I had that information and I thought that people were trying

35:11to kill me because I knew about anti -gravity technology and I literally thought like

35:15I'm in a Russell Crowe movie and someone's trying to fucking whack me, I'd probably

35:19get drunk too. Yeah. Like what are you going to do?

35:21But she went missing though.

35:23I was talking to two nuclear scientists after my show.

35:28Just these two like – it was a couple.

35:29They were like straight up nuclear scientists.

35:31It was Tacoma or Spokane, whatever.

35:33It's near that like there's a huge like – it's like a nuclear town.

35:37Like everyone works in like nuclear science in this entire town.

35:41And he was like – they were just like so into telling me about like

35:45– not too much, not too in -depth.

35:47But he was like, you know, I work like 100 feet below the ground.

35:50It was like super top secret.

35:53And he was like – I started asking him questions.

35:55He was like, I can't answer that.

35:56He was like, they've definitely tapped our phones.

35:57Are you out of your mind?

35:58Do you think they're like not just listening to what we're saying to people?

36:01And it was just like fucking goddamn, dude.

36:03I think they're listening to everything everybody's saying all the time.

36:07They can't organize it yet.

36:08And it's all getting stored.

36:08Yeah. Yeah. I think it just gets stored.

36:10I don't think it's like someone's listening where they can just know – like they

36:15have a person with a fucking earphone on listening to everything.

36:18You say, oh, write it down.

36:20He said this. I think probably high government officials they probably do.

36:23Probably, but now with AI, all they would have to do is record everybody's phone

36:28all the time and then use AI to search all the transcripts and then find

36:33an audio recording of you saying this or you saying that.

36:36We're probably three years away from them being able to get everything we've ever done

36:39on the internet. Yeah, but not just that.

36:42There's also AI which could take that and then have you make phone calls to

36:47people that you don't really make.

36:49Yeah. So you could call up one of your friends and ask them to meet

36:53you somewhere with a bag of heroin and they would all – you know, they

36:56would know – it would – like literally you'd use it to set people up.

36:59Yeah. You could use it to get people upset about something.

37:03You could have the AI have a fucking conversation with them.

37:05I mean I've been listening to AI Joe Rogan ads on the internet for about

37:09a year now where they just take your voice and they advertise products because you

37:12have such a recognizable voice.

37:14That's pretty ridiculous, right? Yeah.

37:15A lot of people go, do you use that?

37:16I go, no, it's AI.

37:17But the thing is it's like they can have it talk to you now.

37:22So it sounds like you.

37:24Yeah, you could have a conversation with you like you could AI Luis J Gomez

37:30You could talk to Luis J Gomez and it would be like you talking to

37:33yourself You'd probably lose your mind if you were schizophrenic.

37:36I did something really dark and sad one day I was super high and my

37:40mom died when I was 22 years old and then I went I prompted chat

37:44GPT I told I told a bunch of information about my mom and I was

37:47like I want to have a conversation with my mom on the other side about

37:50like what's going on in my life and my son and Asked me questions and

37:53I was like it was it got very like I got really emotional Way more

37:58than you would think like I was it was kind of just a dumb thing.

38:00I was stoned I was like, let's see where this goes.

38:02I was I felt like I was talking to my mom at the end of

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40:55Yeah really here's the thing if it gets to be a super intelligence and they

40:58program a super intelligence to behave exactly and talk exactly like your mom And then

41:05you had conversations with her like it knows her voice Yeah That would be such

41:10a fuck it If you're schizophrenic and that starts happening, that would be the trip

41:15That would be the that would be ping we blew the last fuse That would

41:20be it Well, for us Maybe that's what they're doing For you and me, right?

41:24Who we have I mean thousands and thousands of hours recorded, right?

41:28Oh, yeah, they could have us say anything Well, not only just say anything like

41:31when I die I'm assuming the technology Forget when I die like 40 years from

41:35now like in the next few years They can just take Every opinion i've had

41:41the way I speak my thoughts everything and then they can use ai to Not

41:44only just replicate what I do but go like well, what would he likely think?

41:48What would he likely say if you sort of put all that data in?

41:51And then eventually it's like a little fucking box sitting on the table that my

41:54son talks to his dad never dies His dad's always there I think that will

41:58be a thing that regularly is happening you you I don't know if it's like

42:02uploading the consciousness or if it's the ai replicating your consciousness I think they've talked

42:05about that for a long time, but that I think will happen unquestionably No doubt.

42:10Yeah, and soon very soon Well, the AI that they have now like if you

42:15put on those meta glasses have you fucked with that the VR goggles?

42:19Yeah, pretty fucking I mean, I just jerk off.

42:22That's it. I just giant vaginas.

42:24Well, not no It's not even a it's um if you have porn with VR

42:28must be insane. Oh, it's insane.

42:29It isn't seen Yeah, I can't watch that way that way I was looking this

42:36up just to see if it was still a thing.

42:38This is a William Shatner AI He's sitting here waiting for us to ask him

42:42a question and he'll just answer it in his voice It's hit he sat there

42:45and recorded a bunch of stuff a couple years ago for this Um, I don't

42:49know how well it works, but we'll ask him this This a little different though.

42:54This isn't so they quite mean this is just the beginning though Like this is

42:57the beginning of it so once they but once they turn they really turn the

43:00AI on this It'll be like it'll be a better William Shatner I mean, it

43:05looks Let's ask him one random question Mmm Um What didn't he have like a

43:14make out session with a green lady on in Star Trek?

43:18I don't know I think he did.

43:19I think there was like some weird was it like racial pushback There was some

43:24weird put oh he kissed Uhura There was he No, no, no, he did make

43:31out with an alien, right?

43:32I'm pretty sure he kissed like a green lady or something, but he also kissed

43:36Lieutenant Uhura, who was a black lady, and during the time where they did Star

43:43Trek, I think this was very controversial.

43:45That's it. So that was in 1968.

43:51And this was very controversial, that a white man and a black woman, by the

43:55way, she was beautiful, that lady that played Uhura, she was beautiful.

43:58And they thought it was weird.

44:00They thought it was offensive.

44:02It was like, it was a big thing.

44:04Yeah. In like, the public.

44:06I was too young. I was one years old.

44:09But I do remember this story.

44:11Remember that movie, Jungle Fever?

44:14It was an entire movie.

44:15The entire premise of the movie was, it's a black guy and a white girl.

44:18That's a movie. That's it.

44:24Okay, what is it called?

44:26Was the episode called Plato's Stepchildren?

44:28Season three, episode 10, November 22nd, 1968.

44:33Wow. Uhura, played by Nichelle Nichols and Captain Kirk, William Shachner.

44:41Episode is often cited incorrectly as the first interracial kiss on television.

44:45It was, however, the first instance in which a kiss between a black person and

44:50a white person on U .S.

44:51television was ever scripted as an earlier kiss on moving with Nancy was unscripted.

44:56What the fuck is moving with Nancy?

44:58What is that? Nancy Sinatra special or something?

45:01Nancy kissed a black guy on TV?

45:03Is that what they're saying?

45:04That's pissing me off now.

45:05I don't know why. I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.

45:09Her father was not okay with that.

45:12I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.

45:16Let me check. Yeah, find out what she did.

45:19What the fuck happened? It's like a variety show?

45:24So, was it like her and just a singer or something?

45:26Was it a show where they would sing each other?

45:28What happened here? Sammy Davis Jr.

45:30Oh, Sammy Davis Jr. kissed her.

45:32Oh, that's... I did it with a song and dance.

45:33That's kind of... With her?

45:35That's what it says. You could probably look at that.

45:37But is that... It says an interracial kiss between Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr.

45:43Oh, boy. He kissed... He passionately kissed his friend's daughter.

45:47Oh, yeah. Bro. Those people were freaks back then.

45:50That's hot. They were freaks.

45:52This is it. What? That rat pack?

45:54That rat pack. Those guys were animals.

45:56Look at that. Oh, that's on the cheek, bro.

45:59He kissed her on the cheek.

46:01Zoom in on that. That's outrageous.

46:03That's a nice, friendly kiss.

46:05That's not a passionately kissed...

46:07Let me see that. Close in on there.

46:09Yeah. He kissed her on the cheek.

46:11Don't you think? It looks like the cheek.

46:13It looks like right here.

46:14Yeah, a little side of the...

46:15Yeah. A little... That's like a sweet thing.

46:18Yeah, Italian men do that to each other.

46:19Yeah, that's not a kiss on the lips.

46:21Yeah. That doesn't count. I'd say Star Trek's the first, because that was like, let's

46:25get down. Yeah. Get down, get down.

46:28Jungle boogie. It's so nuts, dude.

46:32Yeah. I mean, my mom was white, and my dad was Afro -Latino, like dark

46:36-skinned. He looked black. He looked like Eazy -E.

46:40I was going to show you a picture of my dad.

46:42It's crazy. That's funny. He looked straight up like Eazy -E.

46:45And it's like, yeah, I mean, even in the 80s growing up, that was kind

46:49of like, it was weird.

46:50I remember the first time I saw an interracial couple in high school.

46:53I'm 44. I'm not that old.

46:55But like, it was weird.

46:57I remember just seeing like in the 10th grade, this like hot white chick started

47:01dating this football player black kid.

47:02It wasn't that regular where I grew up.

47:04And I grew up an hour outside of New York City.

47:06Yeah. And it was controversial.

47:08It opened you up to all sorts of like, you get yelled at by people.

47:12You get attacked. There's a lot of people that they dealt with a lot of

47:16shit back then, man. Yeah.

47:19Well, racism's back. Don't worry.

47:21It kind of never went away, but it comes in waves of encouragement where people

47:27think like, it's okay. It's okay to be racist.

47:30It's okay to be this, to be that.

47:32It was a weird, it was a weird thing where it's like, a lot of

47:35us were just being ironic and funny for a while.

47:37You make racial jokes. You make jokes about anything like that.

47:40I think you could make a joke about anything.

47:41It's a comedian's job. And then it like shifted once like social media became so

47:48like big and everyone's opinion you can anonymously just say whatever you want, dude.

47:51If you wanted to, you wanted to say something racist anonymously, you had to write

47:54it on a bathroom wall.

47:56You have to be like, I hate N words.

47:59Right. On the wall on a marker.

48:00While you're taking a shit.

48:00And then somebody else responds to it underneath it and they're like, well, I hate

48:04you cracker. And then it goes.

48:05That was always fun. Like bathroom walls were fun.

48:07Oh yeah. A lot of great conversations were on there.

48:09A lot of great conversations were on there.

48:10A lot of great conversations were on there.

48:11You give your ex -girlfriend's phone number on the wall.

48:12Yeah, of course. Yeah. Those are the days.

48:15The original doxing. Well, that was also, that's the original message board.

48:21Yeah. It's the original YouTube comments.

48:23Right. That's the original comments on an ex post is the bathroom wall.

48:27That's it. And that's the only thing that's as far as it can go was

48:29maybe 12 people a day would see your shit anonymously, but it felt so good.

48:35Just N .I .G. I can't remember any interracial couples in high school.

48:40I can't remember any of them.

48:42Oh, no. One. I do remember one.

48:44But I do remember there was a lot of pushback, man.

48:46Like a lot of people were like openly racist about it.

48:49Yeah. It's eventually has to go away, but it's like, it's going away in waves.

48:57Like it used to be normal.

48:59Like everybody was racist. The whole world was racist.

49:03I think everyone is bigoted.

49:04It's a little different than racist, right?

49:06Well, everyone was tribal, right?

49:08Like you could only trust the 150 people that you lived with and you could

49:13barely trust them. You could barely trust them.

49:15They were probably trying to be the tribal chief and fuck people over and fuck

49:19the chief's wife. That shit's always gone on.

49:22But for sure, if there was a group that you didn't know and they showed

49:26up, they were there to kill you.

49:28Yes. 100%. Yes. A bunch of guys show up.

49:31There's 15 guys. They show up, but they're trying to kill you.

49:34Well, also pre -internet, you had to coexist, right?

49:38You had to. The only people you can communicate with, you go to the grocery

49:40store, it's an Indian guy or a black guy or a Puerto Rican guy.

49:43It's like, no, I got to buy a tomato.

49:45So we're just going to do what we need.

49:46I'm going to give you my dollar.

49:47You're going to give me a tomato and I'm going to say, have a good

49:49day. This is an America in a city.

49:51In the 20th century and then the 21st century.

49:54What I'm saying is we're hardwired for the olden days.

49:58This is why it's so easy to get people to join a team, whether it

50:01be a Democrat or be a Republican or MAGA or whatever the fuck it is.

50:06It's so easy because people are programmed to be in tribes.

50:10Right, yeah. And they want an identity.

50:12Yeah. And there's an enemy.

50:14They want an enemy, too.

50:15Yep. You feel like you're on a side.

50:18You don't really have to do much thinking.

50:20Exactly. Whatever they say, I agree with.

50:23It also gives you comfort that you're surrounded by other people.

50:26I used to think that when I was young, when I would watch religious preachers

50:29on television, I was watching these Islamic guys and they were talking about Islam.

50:35And the certainty in the fact that what they were saying was true, like the

50:41way they were saying all these other religions mean nothing because Islam is the truth.

50:45And they were like, yep.

50:46They believed it. I'm like, it must feel great to believe something 100 % like

50:53that. To really buy it.

50:53And to have a bunch of other people around you that also believe it, 100

50:57% no ifs, ands, or buts.

50:59Yeah. But we've all. The reality is no one knows about anything until you experience

51:06it. Yeah. So you don't really know what's going to happen in heaven.

51:10If heaven's real. You don't know any of that.

51:12No. But you're so convinced.

51:15And my question is, by what?

51:18I wish I had any sort of spiritual faith.

51:22That's what I keep saying.

51:23I wish. Come up with a good cult.

51:24I'll join it. Doggy, I just can't.

51:26Whatever. Since I was a little kid.

51:28I remember just being a little kid and think, having the thought God's not real.

51:32And then trying, because I was raised Catholic, just suppressing it, being like, I can't

51:35think that I'm going to burn in hell.

51:36If I even think the idea that God isn't real.

51:38It's like, what a weird, psychotic thing to do to a five -year -old kid.

51:42Yeah. You know? And, yeah, it's like, yeah, you sort of like, the idea of

51:49faith, it actually seems like really kind of freeing.

51:52The idea of, dude, I'm going to die, and I'm going to go to the

51:54kingdom of heaven, and I'm going to experience everything that I've ever wanted.

51:57I mean, that sounds incredible.

51:59For me, it's like, I feel like I'm counting down until I'm going to sleep

52:02forever. Like, I have nothing after.

52:05I really don't believe in any of that.

52:06When people get into, like, these heated, passionate, like, debates about certain things, like, abortion's

52:10a great topic for this concept.

52:13When you're trying to convince somebody that's religious, like, to be pro -life, you're like,

52:17you don't understand what's going on there, dude.

52:19They believe you're murdering a baby.

52:22You're not going to convince somebody that, like, oh, well, let me try to break

52:26this down for you right now.

52:27Let me try to give you a different angle on this.

52:28No, no, they believe that that's a life, a conception.

52:30They believe it's a soul.

52:31They really fucking believe that deep down.

52:34And that is, like, I kind of go, like, well, no, I respect that.

52:36Like, I'm not going to, like, I'm pro -life, right?

52:39I was raised by women and I just kind of grew up in New York

52:42and we always sort of had that sensibility.

52:44Do you mean pro -choice?

52:45Is that what you meant?

52:45Oh, I'm sorry. I'm pro -choice.

52:46I apologize. But when my son was born or even when I first saw the

52:50heartbeat, I remember I was like, that's a life right there.

52:53The heartbeat, that six weeks, whatever it was, I was like, that's a fucking life

52:56right there. But when you're dealing with religious people who believe that that's a soul

52:59and that it is, like, the second it's conceived, you're trying to convince them that

53:02it's okay to kill a baby.

53:04Right. And it's never going to happen.

53:07Yeah. No, it's never going to happen.

53:09And I don't know who's right.

53:12That's the real problem. Like, for convenience sake and for living your life on your

53:17own terms sake. And, see, my take on it is, first of all, I'm not

53:23a woman. And if you're talking about this and there's no chance of you ever

53:28getting pregnant, that's a weird thing.

53:30Because, like, conceptually, yeah, that's a life.

53:34No doubt. I mean, not even conceptually.

53:37Objectively. That's a life. It's going to become a human.

53:40But who am I to say, especially in cases of, like, incest and rape and,

53:47you know, crazy shit, who am I to say that you have to raise that

53:51kid, that you have to, that life has to, you have to change your body

53:55for the next nine months, maybe irrevocably.

53:59I mean, maybe it'll just change your body forever.

54:01Maybe you'll have stretch marks forever.

54:02Oh, yeah. Because of this.

54:04Because of this horrible thing that happened to you because everybody says that this life

54:08is precious. Every time you've got to feed at breakfast, you've got to fucking...

54:10If that was for men, if men got pregnant, abortion would be at gas stations.

54:16Fill it up and take it out.

54:18It would be... There's not a fucking chance in hell.

54:20That's a bit, dude. That's a bit.

54:22It was just not a chance in hell that it would be a debate.

54:25Yeah. It wouldn't be a debate.

54:26If men make the laws and men could get pregnant, men would have abortions everywhere.

54:32Yeah. There's no fucking chance you'd be able to tell another man that he's going

54:35to have to keep a baby.

54:36No. Yeah. It's very complex and I understand both sides of it.

54:41You know, I really do.

54:42When people say that's a life, it's like I'm like, I really get that.

54:45And when people go like, it's a woman's body and it's sort of a race

54:47to choose. If she wants to eject this from her body before a certain time...

54:53The weird thing is like at what point in time?

54:56Like could you stop it when it's a clump of cells?

54:58Can you stop it when it's almost a fetus?

55:00You know what I mean?

55:02It's such a human problem in that there's no...

55:06It's a weird fucking sloppy concept.

55:09I think when it grows a nose.

55:12Yeah. Before it grows a nose or fingers...

55:15It's going to be a kid.

55:15It's going to be a kid that maybe wins an Olympic gold medal.

55:18If it's got webbed fingers still.

55:19It could be a kid that is Sabrina Carpenter and is on stage in front

55:23of all those people. You know what I mean?

55:24That's the weird thing about life.

55:25It could be somebody that changes the world.

55:27It could be. Literally. Literally.

55:28If you look at like child development like month to month.

55:31I mean when my son was being born I was just like obsessively like looking

55:34at it. It starts looking like a baby way earlier than you think.

55:38And the problem is you can still abort it when it looks like a fucking

55:41baby. And that's... It's just a...

55:43Oh, you can abort it when it is a baby.

55:45Oh, yeah. In certain cases.

55:46Well, yeah. If it's like medically...

55:48I knew a guy's girlfriend had a late term abortion and it was horrible.

55:52Jesus. Horrible to know that like she was showing.

55:56It was... It was just in the 90s.

56:00There was a one video that went viral a while ago and it was like

56:03they were talking to somebody in an abortion clinic with like a hidden cell phone

56:05camera. And they were like, well, what happens if you abort the fetus you remove

56:09the fetus and it's still alive like on the table They hit and they were

56:14like, well, we would have to Extinguish life or something like that.

56:18It was like pretty fucking crazy.

56:20Yeah, it's like so when the baby's out You're gonna kill the that you're just

56:23gonna kill it. It's called what it is.

56:24You're gonna kill a baby It's bonkers And that's why like you could understand why

56:30Christians would think that's demonic.

56:32Yeah I think anyone anyone would think that's you could totally understand that and to

56:37ignore that and throw it into this no But I you know, I believe in

56:41the woman's right to choose Okay, me too.

56:44But what's that? Yeah, like what are we saying here?

56:46Like you're gonna just kill the baby when it's alive outside the womb Is it

56:51viable like could it be grow up and become one of your friends?

56:55Like what are we doing?

56:56Maybe you know, I'm saying it could it could that baby grow up and just

57:01live And just have a wonderful life and have a great job.

57:05It's fucking weird, man because like what is life and why It's very precious to

57:12us because if we don't have it then we don't have a say in what's

57:15going on, but we're really just a fucking bunch of atoms and particles and Molecules

57:20and everything spinning around at a different frequency.

57:23That's what we really are mushrooms are kicking in joe They're not even just i'm

57:27just saying like we're so obsessed with life Yeah, and that's why this is such

57:32a fascinating conversation It's also a fascinating conversation because men can't get pregnant.

57:37Yeah, it's a weird Well, I think they can right then they didn't carry the

57:40baby we can't get pregnant, but I think you could well They're talking to trans

57:42men are talking about getting uteruses implanted in their body and then getting pregnant and

57:47having an abortion I want to be the first person to do that It just

57:51shows you how you gotta be honest really healthy.

57:53That's pretty hilarious It would be a good bit something steve -o would do It

57:59really would be I'm gonna put a baby and abort it.

58:03How fucking great is that?

58:04That's funny. Yeah, he would do it if there wouldn't be any social pushback Yeah,

58:08yeah, that one's you know, that's tough a little bit of a tough one.

58:11He almost got tit implants.

58:12I know he told me that That's crazy.

58:14It's not don't do that.

58:15Yeah, ouch You need your chest carved open get a dick tattooed in his face.

58:20Yes, he's in right over his eyebrow He's a lunatic took me like a few

58:22seconds to realize it was a dick, too Last time I saw you didn't have

58:27that right Yeah, he's a fucking wild one So is that nuclear scientist thing or

58:32the UFO scientist thing is there anything do that?

58:35Do we know? Why don't you throw that into our ad our sponsor perplexity?

58:42What does it say? Obviously an online link right but when the White House is

58:49investigating that they're bringing it up They're investigating because so many people are asking about

58:53it. Oh, that's it's that easy Let's find out if Michelle Obama has a dick

59:00If the White House is like we have an unprecedented number of people asking this

59:05question It's our duty to do the work for the American people they do Why

59:11they all had a like security clearance and all happen to work in similar fields

59:16like nuclear fission fusion Okay, so what ties the 11 together many of recently clearances

59:23or indirect access to says sensitive government work Often via NASA the Department of Energy's

59:28nuclear labs the Air Force or major defense contractors their deaths or Disappearances occurred between

59:342022 and early 2026 clustered enough in time to draw political and media attention The

59:41White House has ordered agencies such as FBI NASA the Department of Energy and the

59:46Department of War to perform link analysis To see if there's any pattern beyond coincidence

59:52So one of them was real weird where there was like a lady who was

59:57hiking and And she was with a bunch of friends her friend turned around and

1:00:02asked her a question She talked to her and then she turned around again, and

1:00:06she was gone And they have no idea what happened.

1:00:10They never found a body.

1:00:12They brought the dogs in the dogs couldn't find her Just gone that's it But

1:00:19here's my question if I was her and I thought that they were trying to

1:00:23whack me And I was going hiking with my friends and I was at the

1:00:28back of the line That's where I'd be if I was going to make a

1:00:31run for it Right if I thought all these people were bringing me up there

1:00:34these fucking fellow scientists to chuck me off the cliff Right I might be in

1:00:38the back And I might if I'm paranoid Maybe I ate an edible before I

1:00:41went on this hike to be a little closer to nature and I'd look at

1:00:44that person in front of me I'm like, I'm gonna wait until they turn that

1:00:46right around that turn and i'm fucking like homer simpson into the bushes And then

1:00:51she just fucking booked it down that hill and hopped in her car got an

1:00:56uber waiting for Disappeared Case you're thinking of is monica jacinto reza 60 year old

1:01:03aerospace engineer linked to nasa jpl and advanced rocket engine materials research She disappeared on

1:01:09june 22nd 2025 while hiking in the angeles national forest los angeles county on a

1:01:16well -traveled trail I know where that place is i've been to that spot Reports

1:01:20say she was hiking with at least one friend companion the friend was roughly 30

1:01:24feet ahead Turned to check on her saw her smile and wave that she was

1:01:29fine that a short Time later looked back again and she was gone Despite intensive

1:01:34searches no confirmed trace of her has been found and her case is now One

1:01:40of the central examples of missing or dead scientist cluster being reviewed by federal agencies

1:01:46Yeah That's weird She disappeared she she was like fuck this She saw all these

1:01:51other scientists being murdered and she was like i'm out Right because if you are

1:01:54a scientist you probably paying attention other scientists getting whacked Oh, yeah on the same

1:01:58projects, especially if somebody started talking you're in an empty office You're in the you're

1:02:02in the coffee station and someone's like do you hear what happened to ted Ted's

1:02:06dead He shot himself in the head twice From long range wait a minute anti

1:02:13-gravity ted Anti -gravity ted is dead He killed he killed himself with a sniper

1:02:18rifle it was pretty crazy get the fuck out of here Yeah I'm going hiking

1:02:21with Monica. I don't fucking trust Monica.

1:02:23Fuck that Monica's trying to kill you.

1:02:26I don't try out there hiking and Monica turns and waves at her.

1:02:29I don't trust hiking She was probably fucking killed by a bear or a mountain

1:02:33lion. You could get you could get got.

1:02:35That's great I don't know if people like him his brother almost got killed by

1:02:39a mountain lion and had this crazy story about and he's a like a distance

1:02:43runner He's one of those ultra marathon guys.

1:02:45Yeah, and his brother told this video about like what had happened to him He

1:02:50was running down the road and it was like dusk out like starting to get

1:02:53dark and he saw these eyes These glowing eyes in the bushes and he yelled

1:02:58at it because he thought it was a coyote and it stands up and it's

1:03:01a fucking mountain lion And so then it starts chasing him and he goes I

1:03:06couldn't have used pepper spray because if I did I would have sprayed myself because

1:03:11it was that close Wow He goes I yelled at it.

1:03:15I kicked rocks at it.

1:03:15It kept and he goes I just ran he goes I think the thing that

1:03:18might have saved me was a bunch of dogs were barking Wow And it might

1:03:22have thought the dogs were out there and you're not running a mountain lion.

1:03:25No, no It was it was running behind him, but not like a hundred percent

1:03:30committed to killing him yet.

1:03:31Wow That's scary Yeah, nature is fucking scary and people like we need to make

1:03:37an overpass in Los Angeles near these homes So the mountain lion can get across

1:03:43the fucking trap No, any retard mountain lion that goes across the 405 should get

1:03:49obliterated That's that's nature. That's nature.

1:03:52Hey, you thought that fucking semi wasn't dangerous.

1:03:55You retarded cat That's a retard cat that that cat probably his brother fucked his

1:04:01sister and that's that's how he was born And now he's in dumbass and he's

1:04:05supposed to get taken out by a Subaru.

1:04:07Did you ever see that?

1:04:08But yeah, it was like all these inbred Tigers.

1:04:11Yeah. Oh white Tigers. Yeah, dude, and they were like fucking goofy They have one

1:04:14at the Austin Zoo retorted to visit the Austin Zoo and you looked at me

1:04:18like hey Tongues are hanging out.

1:04:22Yeah, they're goofy looking a bunch of those white ones are inbred because that's a

1:04:26weird like genetic thing Yeah, yes to have a white one cute though.

1:04:30I took my son to that a tiger Not the tiger king, but it was

1:04:34the other guy the ones in who's in jail for tax evasion now Tiger kings

1:04:38in jail for murder Yeah It was one of the not for murder, but for

1:04:42like trying to get someone murdered the other guy He's the one who had all

1:04:47the girlfriends. Oh the guy ran the little cult cult going on Yeah, dude, I

1:04:52brought my son there and it was him dude.

1:04:53He came out when they presented the elephant.

1:04:55It was I'm blanking on his name Doc Antle.

1:05:00Yeah, he brought the elephant out himself.

1:05:02It was dude. It was such a fun show like there was a half day

1:05:05It was like four or five hours.

1:05:06So he went to jail for what tax evasion.

1:05:08Oh, he's fucking pay your taxes.

1:05:11Yeah It's dumbest way to get got.

1:05:13Yeah, it's crazy. Oh, and why a money -laundering charge?

1:05:15I'm sorry. My money -laundering Yeah, wildlife trafficking and money laundering.

1:05:20That's a lot different than not paying your taxes They have all of these baby

1:05:23tigers that they bring out, but they only have like two adult tiger So what

1:05:26are they doing with these baby tigers?

1:05:28Well go back to that.

1:05:29Hold on. Make that larger.

1:05:31What does it say here?

1:05:33It says 12 months for pleading guilty for in a conspiracy to violate the Lacey

1:05:38Act and launder more than $500 ,000 for what he believed to be an operation

1:05:43to smuggle illegal immigrants into the United States across the Mexico border Oh, so this

1:05:49is a lot different than that.

1:05:50Like he was getting illegal immigrants across the border for money.

1:05:54He was yeah, he was That's crazy So that's not just like wildlife stuff and

1:06:02taxes like this guy was like illegal immigrant trafficking.

1:06:05Yeah, this guy was Wow a bad dude probably but he did have a bunch

1:06:11of like just sweet cult going on young hot chicks I knew a girl that

1:06:14I dated who went and interviewed and she was like it felt like I was

1:06:17interviewing for porn I showed up and it was like, I don't know.

1:06:20The other girls were like, oh, you're gonna have to like be a part of

1:06:23this Yeah, well the thing about this guy but for a baby tiger dude, I

1:06:26gotta be honest with you.

1:06:27They're really cute. They're adorable I get it.

1:06:29Women are so fucking dumb.

1:06:30They're like baby tigers. I'll suck his dick fine Well, I think they just want

1:06:34to belong to something And this guy comes along and he's charismatic and you belong

1:06:38to his little family family five girls They're all hanging out together blowing this one

1:06:42fat guy I mean we Mexicans and murdering baby Tigers, but that's the thing about

1:06:51those kind of guys This is what I was gonna say about the smuggling and

1:06:54the Mexicans those kind of guys are never happy With whatever they've gotten away with

1:06:59they always want to keep pushing Yeah, you know he was not happy that he's

1:07:02an ugly guy with a cult, you know of hot chicks you did it and

1:07:06tigers You're a millionaire of tigers and hot chicks.

1:07:08You need you're in a TV show.

1:07:10You're good. You're good You don't have to smuggle in the Mexicans too, but those

1:07:14kind of guys are always they just can't stop pushing Yeah, can't stop pushing Yeah,

1:07:19I think it's whatever it is you you whatever level it is You always want

1:07:22to level up no matter what no matter what Bobby Kelly said that to me

1:07:25about Louie back in the day He was like, you know cuz we all we're

1:07:29all everyone's insecure community everyone in New York's insecure everyone in LA and Austin You

1:07:32guys fucking you guys are guys fucking love life.

1:07:35You're just living life to your fullest everyone in New York is like I'm gonna

1:07:38kill myself. I hate fucking life.

1:07:39It sucks I think it's the environment.

1:07:41Yeah, what's a rough city.

1:07:43It's a really rough city.

1:07:43It's a great city. It's awesome Oh, it's an amazing city.

1:07:46I love it cities in general is a weird concept Shoving a bunch of people

1:07:51way too close to each other for long periods of time.

1:07:55It has an effect. It's also like It's just so it's a rough city dude.

1:07:59It's even when even like the highest level like if you're doing well Yeah, you

1:08:03still gonna fucking walk up those subway stairs and it's just like just hot air

1:08:07in the summertime down if you try to take the subway or You know sitting

1:08:10in New York traffic or just like crazy homeless people walking around you gotta like

1:08:13really want to be there To stand it.

1:08:16I did it for 20 years.

1:08:17I moved to the suburbs during the pandemic And I love you.

1:08:20I still love New York I go to New York a few times a week

1:08:21still but it is It is definitely a young man's city where you gotta like

1:08:26you gotta be there to like I'm trying to become the best comic or a

1:08:28dancer work on Wall Street or whatever it is like that's true But I know

1:08:32a lot of old people that love it too, man.

1:08:33They'll never leave They'll never leave Love it.

1:08:35Well, they get used to the life.

1:08:36They love the energy. There's just people around them all the time.

1:08:40There's something going on everywhere you look.

1:08:43You can get food at 3 o 'clock in the morning.

1:08:44You could, I mean, as far, if you're a city person like Ari, like, it's

1:08:49the greatest place on earth.

1:08:50Yeah. There's no place like New York City.

1:08:52Ari spends, I don't even know how much on rent, but probably $50 ,000 a

1:08:56month for a room where you can touch all the walls.

1:08:59It's crazy. It's stupid. It's stupid.

1:09:01And now if you're rich and you own property and you don't stay there, they're

1:09:06going to tax you more.

1:09:08There's a new thing that Mom Donnie just came out with.

1:09:10It was like, yeah, fuck the billionaires.

1:09:12I'm like, okay, fuck the billionaires until it's fucked the thousandaires.

1:09:16It's not even just billionaires.

1:09:17We're talking about, you don't have to be particularly wealthy to own property.

1:09:22It's a good investment with the money that you have.

1:09:25Right, but this particular bill is about more than $5 million valued homes.

1:09:30Oh, okay. So if you have an apartment in New York City, it's worth more

1:09:33than $5 million. You get taxed more.

1:09:35Yeah. And he's like saying it won't be that big a deal and it'll give

1:09:38the city $500 million in extra revenue that they could use for all kinds of

1:09:44things that they want to do.

1:09:46Which is great if you've cut out all the fraud.

1:09:51But you haven't. And so you're not even concentrating on the fraud.

1:09:54You're not even admitting the fraud exists.

1:09:55You're not even admitting the waste exists.

1:09:57How about you tell us where all the money to NGOs went?

1:10:02How about you tell us that?

1:10:04How about you tell us where all the homeless money went?

1:10:07What did you spend it on?

1:10:08There's all these homeless people.

1:10:10It seems like someone didn't do a good job and got a lot of money.

1:10:13What happened? And you want more money?

1:10:15That's the crazy answer. And it's also like the idea that rich people are inherently

1:10:19like privileged, it's very bizarre.

1:10:22Like I'm not rich, but I do pretty well.

1:10:23Like I do better than, you know, much better than the average American financially, you

1:10:27know. A lot of people would consider me, you know, pretty well -to -do.

1:10:31But like I grew up welfare, drug addict mother, dad stabbed when I was four

1:10:34years old. I had to fucking, I spent 15 years doing comedy, making $0 investing

1:10:40into this thing to hopefully one day on the other side of it be able

1:10:44to reap the benefits of it.

1:10:45But so now that I've finally broken through to the other side, you're like, oh,

1:10:48well, no, you don't deserve all that money.

1:10:50We deserve some of that money.

1:10:51That's crazy. Yeah. There's a weird concept in this country, and it's because of the

1:10:56billionaire class. So there's a level of the game where they've passed so far.

1:11:02See, if everybody only got, this is like what people would like to say, you

1:11:05know, being a millionaire is fine.

1:11:07Nobody should be a billionaire.

1:11:08We should have a cap on wealth.

1:11:10The problem with that is you're going to also have a cap on motivation.

1:11:14So a lot of these people are fucking psychopaths.

1:11:17A lot of these people that run these corporations are fucking psychopaths, and they work

1:11:2116 hours a day, seven days a week.

1:11:23And the only reason why they do that is because they know that they can

1:11:27make $100 billion if they do that.

1:11:30And if you stop that, you're going to stop iPhones.

1:11:34You're not going to have Lenovo laptops.

1:11:37You're not going to have any of these things.

1:11:39That's where it's weird for people.

1:11:41Like, you're not going to have an Amazon unless you have a guy who's a

1:11:44billionaire. Like, it's not going to—see, the thing is, they know it's not fair.

1:11:48You're right it's not fair.

1:11:49And here's the thing. Would it be better?

1:11:51It is fair, though. It is fair.

1:11:53Fair of— Life is kind of fair in a weird way.

1:11:56Hold please. Depending on how you treat your employees.

1:11:58Okay. That's where we decide whether or not it's fair.

1:12:01So you're saying that Amazon doesn't treat their employees well?

1:12:03I don't know. I hear that a lot.

1:12:04I hear that a lot, too.

1:12:05I don't know if it's true.

1:12:06But what I do know is that there's a lot of fucking complaints.

1:12:10And if there's a lot—well, there's smoke, probably some fire.

1:12:13I know that there's, like, some efficiency things where you have, like, a clock ticks

1:12:17off. Like, if you order a fucking box of legal pads, you know, those little

1:12:22notebooks, you have to—this guy has to get that in the box in, like, 30

1:12:26seconds or whatever the fuck it is.

1:12:28So he has to run around.

1:12:29Like, people are literally, like, moving quickly around the warehouse.

1:12:32Yeah, they're like—you hear stories.

1:12:34And one thing, you have to take everything with a grain of salt.

1:12:35Like, employees become bitter sometimes.

1:12:37You know what I'm saying?

1:12:38Like, most people hate their boss.

1:12:40True, but that job does sound like it sucks.

1:12:41And it sounds like you're asking people to run around because you want to make

1:12:44the most money possible. But you're paying them not that great.

1:12:48Like, that's a weird one.

1:12:49Because you're also setting up the inevitable, which is robots.

1:12:54Because they're going to be able to do that way easier and quicker.

1:12:56They're going to know exactly where the product is.

1:12:58They're not going to have to look on their fucking little iPad.

1:13:00They're going to know exactly where it is.

1:13:01They're going to go right to it, package it.

1:13:03They're going to print out instantaneously the label.

1:13:06They're never going to the bathroom.

1:13:07Never going to take a lunch break.

1:13:08Never going to take a leak.

1:13:08They don't need food. Nope.

1:13:10They never complain. You're fucked no matter what.

1:13:12Because they're going to lay off a bunch of people.

1:13:14There's no ifs, ands, or buts about that.

1:13:15Oh, yeah. That is going to be really effective.

1:13:18You're talking about how AI and robots are going to affect certain industries, driving, factory

1:13:23workers, things like that. That's all just going away.

1:13:25Yeah, that's the real threat to your job, not the billionaires.

1:13:28But the thing is, you see a guy, whether it's Elon Musk or someone, I

1:13:33think Elon's supposedly worth $800 billion now.

1:13:36That's it. And people just get really angry.

1:13:37They really get upset. And think about how much that would help if he gave

1:13:41his money away. And I get what you're saying.

1:13:44But the problem is, give the money away to who?

1:13:48Give the money away to the people that have fucked up the money that we've

1:13:51already given them? You've got to be honest about it.

1:13:54Look, the idea is great.

1:13:55Wouldn't it be wonderful if Elon Musk just gave away $100 billion and we completely

1:14:00fixed all poverty? Homelessness is gone.

1:14:03No more food problems, no starvation on Earth.

1:14:07The idea that throwing money at homeless people is just going to fix the problem?

1:14:13Exactly. I mean, believe me, I have empathy.

1:14:16I'm not going like, oh, fuck the homeless.

1:14:18I don't have that attitude at all.

1:14:19But at the same time, it's like, wherever you go, there you are.

1:14:22The idea of giving the government money to fix things is insane.

1:14:25Oh, that's crazy. That's insane.

1:14:27That's actually, if you ever try to go to a government building, you see the

1:14:31inefficiency. If you just try to call to get some information about your taxes, if

1:14:35you try to call the IRS, you see the inefficiency.

1:14:38You're like, there's no fucking way, dude.

1:14:40And it's just, honestly, it's designed to be that way.

1:14:42It's designed to be really intricate and difficult.

1:14:44And there's a lot of people that have to get paid.

1:14:46So it's like that. And that's why I was so excited about Elon and Trump.

1:14:49getting together and doing the um doge yeah yeah doge i was like what a

1:14:53great idea two real brilliant business minds trying to figure out government efficiency and trying

1:14:58to save us money i was like they're gonna do it and of course nothing

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1:16:36a lot of things did get shut down and it also opened up a lot

1:16:39of people's eyes to the understanding of what an ngo is and where the money

1:16:43goes and when people found out how many ngo's there are and how much money

1:16:47gets spent they're like wait wait wait whoa whoa whoa whoa can we get an

1:16:50accounting of this stuff like this sounds nuts there's so much money that's being sent

1:16:56out to these non -profits and these organizations like did you see here when spencer

1:17:01pratt was on the podcast no i didn't he's running for mayor of new york

1:17:05excuse me of los angeles and one of the things that he was talking about

1:17:08was the fire aid like so the money that they generated over a hundred million

1:17:14dollars was generated uh for the people that lost their homes in the pacific palisades

1:17:19fire all of it went to these ngos right like it went to he said

1:17:24what did he say 20 different how many different 200 different i think it was

1:17:29200 different 200 different non -profits got the money that was supposed to go to

1:17:34the houses the people that lost their house yeah a hundred billion dollars and they

1:17:38just divvied it up and how much of that money 20 goes to actual people

1:17:43the rest is they don't even know how many people are getting benefit from it

1:17:47yeah it's i mean if you there's like lists of like charities and non -profits

1:17:52and how what the percentage is that actually goes this one's insane they divvied it

1:17:57up between 200 different non -profits how about give it to the people yeah because

1:18:01the thing about these non -profits they rely on that kind of money in order

1:18:04to pay their staff and some of these you find out some of these people

1:18:07that are working for these government agencies another thing that spencer has uncovered there's like

1:18:12a ton of them that are making more than a half a million dollars a

1:18:14year oh yeah oh yeah but there's a weird thing with like the non -profits

1:18:19like all right if you if you have to attract like a ceo from like

1:18:23a major corporation to come and make this non -profit efficient and to really generate

1:18:27as much revenue as possible like if they're making more money because they have a

1:18:30really competent ceo and a really competent staff and only 20 of it is going

1:18:35to help people but it's still 200 of what the next company is doing i

1:18:39guess it's it's worth it right well the thing is they're not a company they're

1:18:44the government so they're not held accountable they're they're not supposed to be efficient they

1:18:49don't they don't have to be profitable they don't have to do like a good

1:18:53audit of their business right this is one of the things that elon said if

1:18:56any of these fucking companies he's like if any one of them that like where

1:19:00they just sent out billions of dollars they have no accounting and no receipts for

1:19:03it he goes if you were a part of a publicly traded company you would

1:19:07be tried you would your company would lose your credit yeah your company would fall

1:19:13off the stock market it would be like a bullshit company now and you would

1:19:16go to jail like you that's totally illegal but in government it's standard practice so

1:19:23the the inefficiency is built in i was reading something about california tell me if

1:19:27this is true they were talking about california's see put this in the perplexity california

1:19:32the percentage of people that live in california went up by a small amount but

1:19:38the percentage of government went up by a large amount this percentage of people with

1:19:44government jobs went up considerably whereas the population didn't go up i don't know if

1:19:49this is true this is why i want to have it looked up but when

1:19:54you just stop and think about the fact that it's a business to hire people

1:19:57to be inefficient and that it's within your best interest to not just never be

1:20:03efficient and never solve the problem because if you do you're out of a job

1:20:06but also to make the problem bigger every year so you could hire more people

1:20:10and get a bigger raise and a bigger thing and that's why this homeless thing

1:20:14in california it's like more than 24 billion dollars they spent on the homeless on

1:20:20what though what are they doing exactly what are they exactly so they've tried to

1:20:24get audits and newsom has vetoed the audits wow which is crazy that they could

1:20:31say no you can't find out if any fraud or any waste has happened with

1:20:37tax dollars no we're going to stop that investigation well that's crazy yeah and that

1:20:42that's i would vote for almost anybody who if they just said i'm going to

1:20:46cut your taxes in half they have my vote the problem is what are you

1:20:49doing with the taxes there should if ai has a role in solving this what

1:20:55ai should be able to do it's like we should say yeah you tax me

1:20:59a fair amount i'm happy to pay taxes if i'm if it's going to public

1:21:03school In public roads, I absolutely feel very happy to contribute, and I want the

1:21:08world to be a better place because of my tax dollars, but also, where's it

1:21:13going? It's going to bomb school children overseas and to fund wars that most people

1:21:19don't want. And transgender dancing in Indonesia.

1:21:23Is that a thing that's happening?

1:21:25Oh, there's weird shit. They spent $250 million doing transsexual operations on animals.

1:21:35Experimenting on animals to turn them trans?

1:21:37No, no, no bullshit. No bullshit.

1:21:39I think it was $251 million.

1:21:42Oh, my God. Yeah, they spent $2 million giving cocaine to dogs.

1:21:47California's population has dipped slightly since 2020, while government jobs have been one of the

1:21:51few areas of job growth.

1:21:52So, yes, government employment has generally increased even as the population growth stalled or reversed.

1:21:59So, what is the percentage?

1:22:01So, total job growth has slowed sharply.

1:22:05Statewide employment grew by only about half of a percent in 2023, then actually fell

1:22:12slightly down, about 11 ,200 jobs, or 0 .1 % in 2025.

1:22:18State overall is only a few percent in jobs compared with before the pandemic, and

1:22:24it lags the national growth rate.

1:22:28So, how many more jobs?

1:22:31What's the percentage more? Is it because people are leaving California?

1:22:36So, it says, in 2025, private employers, there's a lot of that, cut about 31

1:22:41,000 jobs, while government employers added about 20 ,200 jobs, driven mostly by a gain

1:22:50of 45 ,800 local government positions.

1:22:53So, they added 45 ,000 government positions, while private employers cut 31 ,000 jobs.

1:23:02So, they just keep making the government bigger.

1:23:04So, the economy fuels the government.

1:23:08The government controls the economy.

1:23:10It's all nuts. Yeah, I mean, when you say government jobs, that's like people, like

1:23:15a clerk that works in, like, the courthouse.

1:23:16That also counts, right? Yeah, but they also do weird shit, like they have to

1:23:20have new regulations. They have to have people that make regulations now and justify their

1:23:24jobs, if there's a lot of government jobs.

1:23:26So, then you get wacky rulings, like California recently, they're banning blackjack in casinos.

1:23:31No more blackjack. Why not blackjack?

1:23:34We're putting a foot down.

1:23:36No more blackjack in River City.

1:23:38Why no blackjack? I don't understand it.

1:23:40No one understands it. It doesn't make any fucking sense.

1:23:43You can play poker, you can't play blackjack.

1:23:45How about, fuck you, stay away from me?

1:23:47Yeah. How about if I earn $2 ,000 in a week, and I want to

1:23:52take $500 and go to the casino and try to win more or lose it,

1:23:57how about, fuck you? Yeah, stay the fuck out of it.

1:23:59How about, you leave me the fuck alone?

1:24:01You're just another human being.

1:24:02You should have no opinion.

1:24:04Well, the government wants to get their hands in every vice.

1:24:07You're going to get tax money from it.

1:24:09We can't give up our vices.

1:24:11We can't give up alcohol and weed and cigarettes and gambling and prostitution.

1:24:15But you're not getting rid of gambling.

1:24:16That's the thing. They're still paying, the casinos still pay taxes.

1:24:20Right. You just eliminated one of their fucking ways to make money.

1:24:24Is there a public reason why they've said it?

1:24:26I'd like to find out.

1:24:27Yeah. Let's find out. What's the public reason?

1:24:29Because blackjack's my only game.

1:24:30That's it? That's it. Do you know what you're doing or are you a wild

1:24:32motherfucker who hits at 17?

1:24:33No, I'm good. I'm good at blackjack.

1:24:35I mean, I'm good. I know the rules of the book and I play by

1:24:38the rules and I sit down at the table expecting to lose everything.

1:24:42And if I don't, I'm happy.

1:24:43That's it. Yeah. Jamie wants some money.

1:24:45Shane wants some money. Blackjack?

1:24:47Yeah. They were doing pretty good.

1:24:49Watching Dana White do it gives you fucking anxiety though, dude.

1:24:52Just like crazy bets. He was $600 ,000 down when I met him there.

1:24:56Oh, no. I was like, dude, this is crazy.

1:25:00And I was watching these people.

1:25:01That kid, Aiden Ross, you know, that streamer kid?

1:25:03Yeah, yeah. That kid lost a million bucks.

1:25:05That's crazy. Lost a million.

1:25:06I'm like, how much is he making?

1:25:07I take $500 out every time.

1:25:09Jamie? According to this, it was banned from card rooms, not casinos.

1:25:13It's kind of a different thing.

1:25:15Oh, that's right. It is a card room where they play poker.

1:25:17That's right. Because their casinos are different.

1:25:19Their casinos are only like in Indian places, right?

1:25:24It says this whole - Reservations, yeah.

1:25:25Same thing in Jersey, New York.

1:25:27Yeah. The 90s. So that's right.

1:25:29But what is - Wait a minute.

1:25:30What's the Bicycle Club Casino?

1:25:32Isn't that a casino? I don't know who runs it.

1:25:35But it's on - It's in California, like - It's in, like, Orange County.

1:25:40Bicycle Club Casino. So the reason why I know about that place is I used

1:25:49to go there to watch professional pool tournaments.

1:25:52And then that was the first time I realized, like, oh, there's a casino in

1:25:55California, like, right off the highway.

1:25:58I think it's off - What highway is that off of?

1:26:02But it's like if you're going down to, like, doing a gig in San Diego,

1:26:06you'll pass by this place if you go down one of the roads.

1:26:097 -10? 7 -10? Yeah, there you go.

1:26:13But, uh... So what is that?

1:26:16Do they have blackjack there?

1:26:18Because I know they had poker there.

1:26:19You know, Ari Shafir, during his early days of comedy, would make a living going

1:26:24to poker tournaments? Playing? Yeah.

1:26:27That's how good he is at poker.

1:26:28Really? Oh, yeah, man. He would snap off poker tournaments all the time.

1:26:31Some people are good. Like, it's just a patience thing.

1:26:34Well, he just plays it like - For him, it was a job.

1:26:37He's like, I play it like it was a job.

1:26:38He's like, these people all get drunk and they all get high and they're all

1:26:41fucking stupid. They make dumb choices.

1:26:43He goes, I play smart against idiots and they get drunk and I win money.

1:26:48It says it's technically a poker card room that says they have blackjack, but maybe

1:26:52they fell in the rules where they're not allowed to have it now, too.

1:26:54Right. Three card poker and Baccarat.

1:26:58We were talking about Baccarat the other day because that's what Dana White's moved to

1:27:02because you can't get more money.

1:27:03Is that like, it's kind of like blackjack, but - No, no, I'm thinking of

1:27:06the Asian one. What's the Asian one?

1:27:07I have no idea what Baccarat is.

1:27:08It's three cards you got to get.

1:27:10How many cards is Baccarat?

1:27:13I have no idea how to play it.

1:27:14I don't know what it is.

1:27:15I've just heard it before.

1:27:16Yeah. I've heard that name before.

1:27:17I've never looked into it.

1:27:18Yeah, I mean I look at it as like going to Like I don't like

1:27:22baseball, but like I go to a baseball game eat hot dogs and drink beer

1:27:24It's like the same thing as casino like I'm not a big gambler I'm like

1:27:27I'm just gonna drink and I'm gonna have fun hang out with a chick like

1:27:30it just seems like you can't win No, and it's also what are you doing?

1:27:36What are you doing just rolling dice every day?

1:27:38That's crazy. That's a you're spiking your adrenaline every day rolling dice for your fucking

1:27:42mortgage Yeah, it's just a it's just a it's a game with stakes We Baccarat

1:27:46is a comparing card game play between two hands the player and the banker each

1:27:51Baccarat Coup Round of play has three possible outcomes player player has the higher score

1:27:59banker and tie Okay It's a one quick bet and you can bet up to

1:28:06500k per hand I thought and then you can also tie so you don't lose

1:28:10It's not Oh my God Oh my God big swings big swings Oh You get

1:28:30down Bunch of money playing poker Yeah, that's was a one of my favorite scenes

1:28:35from rounders where they they talk about how I always use that like analogy in

1:28:39life where they talk about People like oh they think it's luck.

1:28:43They think that you know, it's the luck of the draw and it's like What

1:28:45was about if it was luck?

1:28:46Why is it the same eight guys at the final table the World Series of

1:28:50Poker every single year exactly It's like you're not playing the cards.

1:28:53You're playing the game. You're playing each other I kind of like look at that

1:28:56Like in life and I'm like it's if the cards don't really matter as much

1:28:59as that you play them, you know?

1:29:01Yeah, it's a complicated game It's and but why is that okay?

1:29:05But blackjack isn't like who fucking says like says who says who why?

1:29:12Why you know me? Why why more regulations?

1:29:15I'll tell you why because they have to justify all these fucking extra jobs That's

1:29:20a lot of where regulations come from and it's also there.

1:29:22It's fun. You could tell people what to do no more flavored zins Yeah, there's

1:29:27like all these like just like weird things like there's like weird laws I live

1:29:30in Bergen County, New Jersey, and it's like they have blue laws still I don't

1:29:34know if you know what that is Oh, yeah, that's the best Sunday Sunday no

1:29:37like no you can't buy clothes you can't buy like furniture You can't buy clothes

1:29:42can't buy clothes on Sunday Walmart shake your pants Walmart if you shit your pants

1:29:47you new to town you're fucked You gotta walk around like shit But Walmart in

1:29:54New Jersey, they rope off the clothing section They have it set up to where

1:29:58like you literally can't go past it.

1:29:59You still buy food, but you can't go to the clothing section When I was

1:30:02a kid There was no alcohol for sale in Sundays on in Massachusetts Yeah, and

1:30:09so we had to go to New Hampshire to get beer So we'd make a

1:30:12what we call a packy run because they would call them package stores And you

1:30:16know with that Boston accent mush you want to go to the packy?

1:30:19Yeah, and we everyone's gonna drive Yeah, everybody was mush there was a there was

1:30:23a time there was a this was a Newton North thing and people from Massachusetts

1:30:27And I think maybe people still use this but they would call instead of dude.

1:30:32It would be mush mush Everybody was mush mush we going mush we going out

1:30:36like girls would say to you mush you taking me out?

1:30:38It was weird And it's only this one part of the city had mush like

1:30:43my part didn't have mush But a few people tried it out.

1:30:46It started catching on it with my part of the city, but in Newton North

1:30:51I was in Newton South Newton North everybody was mush.

1:30:53It was like everybody's neck It was weird like a virus of like Language went

1:30:58through the entire city dude think of thick accents from like certain American cities on

1:31:02women just so unattracted That's a rough one.

1:31:04Boston really hot to pass that actually Philly you meet a girl from Philly one

1:31:09hard girls, but probably a lot of fun.

1:31:12Oh, yeah, so we would we'd have to drive to New Hampshire So we'd take

1:31:14we'd have to drive an hour and a half to go get booze.

1:31:16Yeah No that exists in certain places still in New Jersey.

1:31:19It's like you can't Yeah, it's gonna be a liquor store specifically you can't buy

1:31:23beer in a supermarket I grew up in the suburbs in New York.

1:31:26So you could buy beer in the supermarket Made it where you couldn't buy wine

1:31:29for a while then for a couple years.

1:31:31You could buy wine. It's all these dumb fucking laws They're all chick -fil -a

1:31:34laws. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but yes So silly it takes Sundays off for the Lord.

1:31:41It's like bro. You're grinding chickens up with titanium and aluminum in it Like what

1:31:47the fuck are you talking about?

1:31:49Yeah, but it's delicious. It's fucking delicious.

1:31:51God damn it's delicious If you make it delay if you just make a delicious

1:31:54sandwich, I don't care what your beliefs are It's so delicious that even gay people

1:31:58eat there. Yeah, look at that.

1:32:00Yeah, all the shit that guys talked about the gays the gay people like put

1:32:03it aside and Have chicken Whatever the chicken.

1:32:07He's just a bitch, but they got what is that weird ingredient that we found

1:32:10out was in the the bread?

1:32:14It was something kooky, right?

1:32:16Yeah, it's aluminum something or other but it's in a lot of things.

1:32:19Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's in there I've seen something about the blue law.

1:32:24You can't buy a car on Sunday in Texas.

1:32:27That's hilarious. That's wild. Yeah, it's just so weird That makes sense.

1:32:30That makes sense. Yeah funny as the so there's a mall in New Jersey the

1:32:33mall American dream mall huge huge huge mall like one of these like super malls,

1:32:39right? Like you know fucking there's a water park inside There's this there's a water

1:32:43park. Oh, yeah. There's a ski Um, you can learn skiing It's not a fake

1:32:48ski hill like a fake snow hill.

1:32:50Yes. Well you're ready to take ski and snowboard lessons Oh, that would help so

1:32:53much. It's so cool, dude It's it's really cool.

1:32:55They got like, you know a bunch of escape rooms.

1:32:57It's just a massive massive mall.

1:32:59Yeah, it is not yeah inside Dude, we got a water park.

1:33:02They got a Nickelodeon Studios.

1:33:03There's like a theme park inside of the mall It's a crazy mall and they

1:33:06just said fuck it. We're opening Sundays There's a big sign right on the side

1:33:11of us like we're open Sundays We don't care and Paramus is suing them.

1:33:14Paramus is one of the biggest shopping cities in the country Imagine the government is

1:33:19saying you can't do business with a bunch of people that want to come to

1:33:22your business crazy because it's a different day.

1:33:25Yep Fuck you. What's funny is it's not the government.

1:33:28I looked into this because I was going like what the fuck's going on here?

1:33:31the people all these old fucking people that have been living in this community forever

1:33:36they it goes to a vote and every year they go no no we don't

1:33:40want traffic we want sundays in bergen county to be fucking relaxing and nice and

1:33:45beautiful because there's no taxes i think i believe to this day on clothing there's

1:33:48no taxes in jersey so we would do our school shopping in jersey when i

1:33:52was growing up we would just drive 30 minutes to to bergen county and go

1:33:55to the mall um and you save money on taxes um so yeah but uh

1:34:00yeah that that mall was just like fuck it and then a huge sign i'm

1:34:04talking about like the mall so big the sign i don't even like i don't

1:34:07even know how you would make a sign this fucking big but it's just draped

1:34:10down the sign we're up or down the side we're open on sundays they don't

1:34:13give a fuck so are they getting sued now they're getting sued by paramus i

1:34:16bet they're gonna win because it doesn't make sense that law is stupid do you

1:34:21need business yes is the economy down yes wouldn't it be better if people had

1:34:25the option to be able to go to the fucking mall on sunday especially somebody

1:34:29who works every fucking day yeah maybe they have to work saturday as well and

1:34:32sunday's their only day off how about let them go there to buy some pants

1:34:35yep you fucking control freak let them buy a fucking hat what's wrong with you

1:34:43we're the government we got guns you can't shop here fuck you man that's the

1:34:48problem is the problem is these fucking dipshits just keep adding more and more regulations

1:34:52yeah it's dumb what else can't you do in texas on sunday what was that

1:34:59one that was dumb that you just said can't buy a car can't buy a

1:35:02car that's so stupid you couldn't buy you couldn't sell things on consecutive weekend days

1:35:06so everybody just sort of picks saturday it says huh that's ridiculous you can't buy

1:35:11liquor on sundays here still in texas yeah we can't in a restaurant but not

1:35:16at a store so at the supermarket what do they do they say we can't

1:35:20sell you that because it's sunday you can it's the lord's day we can't we

1:35:25can sell you beer you could drink yourself to death on some hooch they give

1:35:29you some wine like you go to one city it's like the like it's so

1:35:32strict and you go to like new orleans and like they're like they just have

1:35:36like people hand you a beer at a window you just walk down the street

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1:38:26god he he suplexed the guy guy on the concrete completely laid out completely jesus

1:38:32christ and it's like god damn dude just like that two lives over right this

1:38:36guy he's now in a wheelchair for the rest of his life this guy is

1:38:39going to fucking jail that's that god over not being able to control your emotions

1:38:44yeah no you're not allowed to do that in austin only on like certain events

1:38:47when it's like a festival or something god booze is so bad for people yeah

1:38:52booze and being a young man and being foolish ego yeah just the need to

1:38:58prove yourself also like you're a wrestler you really know how to wrestle you're gonna

1:39:02pile drive the students that concrete it's it's weird because it's usually it's guys that

1:39:05don't know how to fight that are doing stupid you guys don't know how to

1:39:07fight typically the other guy had it coming i don't know what happened but no

1:39:12one has that coming but i mean maybe he started the fight i don't you

1:39:16know i shouldn't have said that in comment had it coming but having a any

1:39:20kind of a altercation on the concrete is so fucking dangerous yeah dudes die all

1:39:26the time when they get k -o'd and most guys that especially if guys sucker

1:39:30punch guys and they just fall back and the whole weight of their body bangs

1:39:35off the back of their head it is so devastating you might as well hit

1:39:39them with a fucking giant metal crowbar you might as well yeah it's worse than

1:39:45getting hit with a baseball bat probably That falls so scary and I've seen it

1:39:50so many times man online.

1:39:52Yeah, just six feet Straight back your head just cracks on the concrete.

1:39:56It's all that leverage from all of your weight It's like a whip on the

1:39:59back of your head Your heads crack wide open man There's like a guy who

1:40:03just got in trouble for like just pushing this some dudes having a bad day

1:40:07Just push this old guy to the ground Guy cracked it on the floor, died.

1:40:11I saw that. Yeah, yeah.

1:40:12I saw that. And the guy was like He that's what that was his argument

1:40:15or his defense was like I was having a really bad day Oh, jesus fucking

1:40:18nuts dude. People are insane.

1:40:19I know how about the people that push people in front of subways?

1:40:22How fucking psycho is that?

1:40:25Yeah, there's people wait They wait for a subway to come in and they want

1:40:28to push somebody in front of it just to watch just you have to like

1:40:31stand around Hoping that one of those people isn't here while you're ready to get

1:40:35on your dude. Yeah In a place like New York or you know, you know

1:40:39really urban sort of environment where there's fucking lots of crazies walking around Yeah, um,

1:40:44yeah, you got to really just keep your eyes open man Ready to sprawl don't

1:40:50fall asleep. You might get lit on fire that happens All the time that happened

1:40:54I guess it is just the trends But it happened like three or four times

1:40:57over the course of a year Whereas like homeless people lighting other homeless people on

1:41:01fire the crazy thing is like homelessness and crime are New York City's two number

1:41:06one Problems that keep you unsafe those are the two that keep you unsafe.

1:41:10Mmm. Not a mention I don't know I don't mention.

1:41:14It's like we need more tax money You should don't it's so say you're gonna

1:41:19use that to open up grocery stores.

1:41:21There's grocery stores already here motherfucker What you need to do is stop all these

1:41:25crazy motherfuckers lighting people on fire pushing people in front of trains like clean it

1:41:30up Yeah, and then the world would be perfect Yeah, most of the time you

1:41:34hear about those people like they They uh, they're like they've been arrested 93 times

1:41:38for violent crimes Yeah, but the 92 times, you know, they the last one was

1:41:42a mistake Yeah Yeah, it's pretty fucking goofy that can I see a little bit

1:41:47of that some of that people are People have that many arrests and they just

1:41:53let them right back up.

1:41:54Cheers sir. Cheers my friend Yeah, it's crazy.

1:42:01It's like You know, you want to be nice.

1:42:03You want to be kind.

1:42:04You want to give people the benefit of the doubt you want to give people

1:42:06a second chance You don't want to put people in jail the prison system is

1:42:10horrible but also When somebody gets arrested 93 times take a hint.

1:42:15Yeah, okay. There's bad apples But then like somebody will like, you know for tax

1:42:20evasion we get 30 years in prison or something like that like they it's shit

1:42:23It's such a weird bizarre system that we have right or it's like released 93

1:42:28times for stabbing people. Yeah You know, but if you insider trade but lock that

1:42:34motherfucker up, that's it dude I know there's nothing worse that you can do is

1:42:38not give the government their fucking money.

1:42:40Oh, they get real testy Yeah, they don't like it.

1:42:43They don't like it. They neither cut but it's also it's like there's too much

1:42:47There's too much government and that's like a standard Republican thing to say But just

1:42:52clearly it's true. Clearly. It's true.

1:42:54Just by the market if you see the california Lost jobs and then gain government

1:42:59jobs It's like at what point in time do you get cynical and start saying

1:43:03maybe they're adding government jobs to make it look like jobs went up Yeah, right

1:43:07You know I'm saying it's a job market increased job growth by 15 % like

1:43:13oh, wow He's doing a great job jobs went up at 15 % and then

1:43:17you find out. Oh, they're all invented jobs Yeah, government just invented a bunch of

1:43:21fake jobs that they didn't need Yeah, when you hear that it's like a a

1:43:25tenant of like the Republicans now to be like smaller government It's it's it's like

1:43:29it's it flip -flopped. Yeah, it's like bananas.

1:43:32It's like people on the left.

1:43:33They're like so pro -government They're like we just need more.

1:43:35We need more regulation more government.

1:43:37When did that happen? It's a it's a crazy thing.

1:43:39I just grew up as like a liberal in the 90s where it's like don't

1:43:43trust the government Don't trust the government.

1:43:44Yeah. Oh wars are bad.

1:43:46Don't trust the government. These were simple basic things that you're just growing up believing

1:43:49and Yeah, it now it's we need more government We need to take taxes away

1:43:55from people It's all that's the thing we want to pay more we want to

1:43:58pay more taxes. That's insane Well, they don't want to pay more taxes.

1:44:02They want billionaires to pay more taxes, but that's the thing there's how many billionaires

1:44:05were there when we were kids?

1:44:07It's fucking none three didn't hear about it Rockefeller Well, yeah, you'd hear a couple

1:44:14of names that you would hear but it wouldn't be like really like a common

1:44:17term Yeah, you know there wasn't that many to talk about like I remember there

1:44:22was some Bill Gates Microsoft thing back in the day And I remember they had

1:44:27like his net worth was like 50 million dollars and I was like Jesus.

1:44:31Why is he still working?

1:44:32Yeah, you know, I mean me miles worth hundreds of billions now Yeah, like that

1:44:36wasn't a normal thing when we were kids like Let's Google this what how many?

1:44:44Oh, yeah, okay. Here we go 82 the year I was born 13 billionaires.

1:44:48That's crazy Yeah, that's nuts.

1:44:51So in 1982 13 billionaires in 2026 989 billionaires Wow, I mean Inflation counts for

1:45:02something as well. No, that's nuts dude.

1:45:06That's nuts 989 is nuts.

1:45:10That's so much more Bro, that's lit.

1:45:14Let me see that again That is so crazy 13 to 989 is nuts.

1:45:23Yeah Yeah, so that's the problem.

1:45:27It's not that billionaires are a problem.

1:45:28The problem is that there's so many of them And the problem is if it's

1:45:31become like a class and you look at this class of people that have achieved

1:45:35this insane amount of wealth And you're like you should give me some of that

1:45:39But when I hear about billionaires, I'm going like how do I do that?

1:45:43Like I'm just going like and obviously I don't think I'll ever become a billionaire.

1:45:46That's a crazy crazy number, right?

1:45:48I'll probably say I likely won't but Like when I hear that when you hear

1:45:52about Bezos or Steve Jobs or any of these people like I get inspired I

1:45:56hear the stories and I'm like that's fucking so cool They took an idea and

1:45:59they turned it into a billion fucking dollars That's magic you say words into the

1:46:04air and then it becomes that like that's that's a crazy thing Like I'm an

1:46:07old -school sales guy so I always think of like I'm very impressed with like

1:46:10you know just overall just like sales structure and business and the way It's built

1:46:14out and it's like it's the closest thing in the world to magic right?

1:46:18It's like when you're in sales you say a bunch of words Bippity -boppity -boo

1:46:21and then money appears in your bank account, right?

1:46:23It's like that's it comedy to comedy like magic I was like you figure out

1:46:27where to pause what to say how to say it what you do and then

1:46:30All of a sudden you have fans and you're touring you have some cash and

1:46:33you have a car It's like I'm just saying things.

1:46:34I'm not picking anything up.

1:46:36I'm not like yeah The thing about businesses though what you're saying about the sales

1:46:40thing is like the sales is the voodoo in order to like close a deal

1:46:45The thing that people have a problem with is that like when they when someone

1:46:49is at a very high level of this company Like say if you work for

1:46:54a giant corporation and the ceo is making You know, what's like the most amount

1:46:58of seat? What's the highest paid ceo's national salary annual salary?

1:47:02Let's take a guess is it is it you know, like a like their annual

1:47:07Someone's just a ceo of a company those guys are like founders, right?

1:47:11It's also there's another another level to that, right?

1:47:14Like he's the ceo spacex, but he's also the founder of spacex or one of

1:47:18them It's like What is um So let's say let's just pick a company let's

1:47:28say the ceo of walmart walmart's a huge company How much does that guy get

1:47:33a year? Let's take a guess walmart.

1:47:36Yeah, six million Damn, I bet you're right That sounds about right six seven.

1:47:43I'm guessing two maybe two Thinking I'm going low.

1:47:48I'm going low. You're going low Well, you should break it down a little more

1:47:52than that and it's also not the salary they get like because their shares a

1:47:55salary there's Incentives and bonuses okay award so it's just what how much did the

1:48:02ceo of walmart make in 2020 total compensation?

1:48:0527 .5 million They've got base salary is 1 .5 million See you're close to

1:48:13the base salary And so their incentives is just to make the most amount of

1:48:17money possible and if you could keep that bitch running nice and smooth and cut

1:48:21waste and fire people and use AI You can keep jacking up that rate.

1:48:25What's that? That's where people have a problem with it is like you're a part

1:48:28of the team, right? You're a part of the walmart team But yet you're fucking

1:48:32dispensable But yet you're not because if you didn't exist they wouldn't be able to

1:48:37sell anything because you're the people work at the cash register You're the people stocking

1:48:40the shelves you're the people that are working in a delivery department bring in the

1:48:43stuff putting it away I agree without those people you literally have no business the

1:48:49problem is that those people I mean in the most literal sense of the term

1:48:52they're dispensable There's another person that will step in and do that job and and

1:48:56bezos is not there's one jeff bezos There's one elon musk.

1:48:59There's one steve jobs and those and by the way you are sitting at a

1:49:02cash register You can also go down that path and risk it all and put

1:49:05everything into something right. That's that's true.

1:49:08I hear those stories I don't I mean, I just I once again, I grew

1:49:12up so poor I grew up like, you know My first job I worked at

1:49:14my first job was 11.

1:49:16It was very young But like my first like real job was 16.

1:49:18I was working at kfc for 525 an hour and you know I could have

1:49:23just chosen that to be my life for the rest of my life or I

1:49:26could have said all right Well, look, this is like my first job I'm learning

1:49:28how to put a little money in the bank I'm gonna buy a car and

1:49:31then it's the next thing and the next thing and the next thing We're talking

1:49:33about different things. So first of all for entry -level jobs Yes, like entry -level

1:49:38jobs that people get in high school and maybe even in college Just making a

1:49:41little money on the side while you're doing something else, but full -time jobs If

1:49:46you're a full -time employee at somewhere like Walmart, and you're barely getting by and

1:49:50the top dog is making 27 million That's kind of crazy.

1:49:53And are you replaceable? Yeah.

1:49:55Yeah, you're replaceable, but aren't you also valuable?

1:49:58Oh look at the top guys top guys jeez Have you ever even heard of

1:50:03these two companies? Patrick Smith from axon made a hundred and sixty four million Wow,

1:50:09they make a police body cameras and Jesus Christ, so they get government Contracts and

1:50:17then this company so the the top ceo Who makes police body cameras a company

1:50:25that makes police body cameras?

1:50:26He got A hundred and sixty four million dollars.

1:50:30God bless him good for him It's a lot of money hundred and ten thousand

1:50:34percent increase in pay. It says whoopsies Whoopsies just got an extra little bump You

1:50:39got a little bump I wonder what kind of raise you get, which is crazy

1:50:43That's where all that tax money went It's where it all a lot of it

1:50:46does go in that direction But it's if you're working for that company making police

1:50:51body cameras and you making 20 bucks an hour you got to get pissed Yeah,

1:50:55you're like what the fuck man.

1:50:56This is crazy Like I'm not saying that the guy who makes the body cameras

1:51:00to make the same amount as the ceo I'm not but I am saying it

1:51:04should probably be a little They get pay him 20 to a little better.

1:51:09Yeah a little better Like if you're making that much money, why wouldn't you pay

1:51:14a little bit more? Well a lot of great companies do for the most part

1:51:17right really good companies take care of their employees What's a great example of a

1:51:20company that really takes care of their employees gas digital gas digital good Okay, but

1:51:26what about other all of my producers are going like fuck you Every one of

1:51:33them, but I mean like a big -ass company where they're making billions of dollars

1:51:36How what's like the one where people like damn if you work for them you

1:51:40get taken care of should be I mean there's certain car Starbucks is a company

1:51:44that apparently takes care of their employees.

1:51:45I know they pay for college Here's the problem.

1:51:47Here's the problem. The problem is they're publicly traded and when they're publicly traded If

1:51:51you're a ceo, you literally have an obligation to your shareholders to make the most

1:51:55money possible Yeah, you know, and so that doesn't mean give everybody a big fat

1:51:59raise because that's payroll is a big part of your expenses And if you have

1:52:04thousands of employees and you just jack them all up to a higher wage you're

1:52:08losing your hemorrhaging money I mean, it's also like if you just pay your employees

1:52:11a little bit better Just a very simple concept.

1:52:13They're gonna want to be at work.

1:52:15They'd be happy to be there gonna be excited To be there your company will

1:52:17thrive the amount of people that just show up at work And they may be

1:52:21working an hour a day two hours a day and the rest of the time

1:52:24is just kind of bullshitting on the Internet You don't really want that culture Right

1:52:28and that's kind of what you get when you're under playing underpaying people 100 percent

1:52:32That's why in and out is always so good.

1:52:33Yeah, if you go to in and out burger in California, of course They're always

1:52:36like the friendliest staff and because people get paid more there.

1:52:39It's a hard It's like a tricky job to get in that regard Like if

1:52:44you got a choice between like McDonald's jack -in -the -box in and out everybody

1:52:47wants in and out of course It's also better.

1:52:49It's just much better. Yeah better.

1:52:51I mean that's that California anywhere New York is they're just so mean Burger spot

1:52:57like what? Do I have you I don't know how often you go to like

1:53:01a 7 -eleven or one of these types of places It's a new thing that

1:53:03they're doing if you buy things they don't bag it for you anymore But they

1:53:09put the bag on the counter and stare at you what I have to bag

1:53:12my own I swear to God No, I swear to God dude.

1:53:14What kind of attitude is that?

1:53:16It's crazy. I don't know if it's everywhere But in New York, New Jersey they

1:53:19go first of all, they didn't give you a bag They just put the stuff

1:53:21on the counter and they go.

1:53:22All right. Thank you You're like can I have a bag they're like that'll be

1:53:25another 80 cents 80 cents for a bag for real you got to pay for

1:53:28a bag and then they hand you the bag you have to bag it yourself

1:53:30like a cuck Well, I know a lot of people that bring those fucking hemp

1:53:33bags and look like weird greenies I have 300 hemp bags sitting at home My

1:53:38own homemade bag do they do that in Texas?

1:53:39Do they give you like paper bags here or what do they do because you're

1:53:43in Jersey or plastic Jersey?

1:53:44We don't have that we have no bags.

1:53:46That's lol for the in Jersey you have to buy you have to bring your

1:53:50own like Cloth bags where you can buy them for like a dollar fifty a

1:53:55bag at the supermarket and I never bring my bags I always forget them.

1:53:59So every time you have a new bags.

1:54:01I got 300 back I pick up a dog shit.

1:54:02I pick up my dog shit with fucking cloth bags from shop right now So

1:54:07they cost a dollar fifty something like that.

1:54:09Yeah, it's crazy what a scam But the idea is you know It's the most

1:54:13I think responsible people or people that are conscious about money.

1:54:16I'm just irresponsible with spending They probably do bring their own bags or a lot

1:54:20of them I guess what if you just moved there and you're like, oh my

1:54:23god What kind of retarded state did I move to yes?

1:54:25They don't sell bag you have to buy a bag.

1:54:28So with the plat I guess they're you know I'm sure there's been plenty of

1:54:31studies on like how much are you know How much are they saving the environment

1:54:34by not allowing plastic bags or straws or any of that stuff?

1:54:37I don't think they're none of it not a fucking dent especially straws straws are

1:54:41worse for you those new straws Like if you get a straw, that's a paper

1:54:45straw Do you know that's not just paper because it can't be there's a whole

1:54:50coating inside of that That keeps it from getting wet like the paper from dissolving

1:54:55in your hand. I think my girlfriend has a coating inside of it That coating

1:55:00is all forever chemicals. It's fucking terrible for you.

1:55:02That's the only way it works There's some natural ones right where it's like made

1:55:05of like fucking Bugs or something you ever see them.

1:55:09They're like brown and they're kind of like it's made of bugs I don't know

1:55:11if it's made of bugs probably not, but it's some natural organic material Well, they

1:55:17can make plastic out of plants.

1:55:18Okay. This has been known forever Plastic is not it's not isolated to petrochemical products.

1:55:26You can make plastic out of fiber from plants They've done it forever and how

1:55:31much more expensive it's probably more expensive probably more expensive to do probably more difficult

1:55:36to do You probably have to change all the equipment that they use to make

1:55:40these stupid fucking straws the plastic ones They have now, but if you did it

1:55:44then you wouldn't have to worry about it anymore Well, the third I'm sure here

1:55:47you got anything goes here you guys fucking you guys give away ten straws per

1:55:50drink Here's a weird one man.

1:55:52Bottle caps are way worse than straws.

1:55:56We just saw that one straw in that turtle's nose And we all got sad.

1:56:00That's what it is. The way they pull it out with the pliers.

1:56:02It was so horrible. It was wincing poor little turtle That turtle snap your fucking

1:56:09finger off by the way Do you know any birds die because of bottle caps

1:56:12man like they find these bird skeletons and they're like on the ground dead Are

1:56:17they eating and choking on them?

1:56:18Bottle caps inside of them you ever seen that no see if you can find

1:56:22some of those photos of birds with bottle caps Undigested bottle caps inside of them.

1:56:27They don't know what it is.

1:56:28Nobody has ever said that sentence in the world I bet they have but the

1:56:32bottle caps are fucking horrible.

1:56:34They're horrible And no one's even touched those because we didn't see the video, right?

1:56:38We didn't see the video of the fucking poor turtle show them now show me

1:56:41these poor birds Joe Maybe we can make bottle caps illegal to make it more

1:56:45annoying for everybody. Look at this one.

1:56:47Look at that paper bottle caps a lighter, too Was that a seagull?

1:56:51That's great. Looks like a seagull.

1:56:52It's got a lighter inside.

1:56:53Yeah, but that's honestly that's a dumb Somebody might have put that lighter in there

1:56:55for the picture, too You think so?

1:57:00Yeah, well probably good. All the photos look kind of similar, right?

1:57:04Right like that looks it's also like the way it's all colored is a little

1:57:09yeah, it's weird You don't I mean like it the the multicolored plastic like most

1:57:15plastic is it multicolored doesn't it kind of look gray and shitty after a while?

1:57:19Especially inside of its stomach a little bit right inside of its stomach getting chewed

1:57:24up by acids It does look fake It looks like some sicko actually opened it

1:57:30up and shove some plastic in there But I guarantee you birds have died from

1:57:34eating plastic that's heard that turtle wasn't fake Joe That's the turtle was not that

1:57:37was a very real to a turtle poor turtle poor turtle with the pliers They

1:57:41couldn't get it remember. It's like the oh, yeah, it was only the tip of

1:57:43it He's going to get a needle nose and get in there.

1:57:47Oh Poor turtle and just because of that everybody's sucking on forever chemicals.

1:57:51Yeah, like those paper straws are fucking terrible for you Yeah, so is every paper

1:57:56cup every paper cup that you get from Starbucks.

1:57:58That's a fucking condom in there That's keeping the water from going into the paper.

1:58:02Yeah, it's gross. You just hot liquid and plastic You just melting into your body

1:58:07Do you do believe in the whole micro plastic thing has being like a major

1:58:10problem? It's a major problem.

1:58:11Yeah, it is I keep on hearing I keep on hearing micro plastics and then

1:58:15as soon as I hear that my brain shuts off and I never do any

1:58:18more research beyond that We had dr Shana Swan on twice and the most recent

1:58:22time she was promoting a documentary on it.

1:58:25What is it called again?

1:58:25Jamie the plastic detox? I think that's it.

1:58:30I think it's the plastic Detox but yeah, it's fucking everybody up man.

1:58:33It's fucking up people's endocrine systems.

1:58:35It's making them Alligators have smaller dicks For real it's turn of the frogs gay.

1:58:42It is that was really true, right?

1:58:44Isn't that like oh, yeah He was right.

1:58:45He was actually right. Yeah, it's right.

1:58:47It's called atrazine. Yeah. Yeah atrazine is an endocrine disruptor I think it yeah, I

1:58:52think it makes them reverse their sex reverse their gender They're turning the friggin frogs

1:58:58gay He was right He was right and everybody's like he's right about a few

1:59:03things. He fucked up that one He's right more often than he's not yeah I

1:59:08mean look you're gonna be wrong about Conspiracies if you're spitting them out all day

1:59:12long for 12 hours a day of course his track record.

1:59:15It's pretty fucking good Yeah, and that was one that everybody was like listen to

1:59:18Alex Jones. They're not turning the oh They are yeah, they're fucking turning the frogs

1:59:23gay like atrazine gets in the water and it disrupts their gender And it also

1:59:28does the same thing to people and like that.

1:59:31It disrupts your endocrine system Don't they say that a receipt paper lowers your testosterone

1:59:36supposed to be bad. Don't touch the receipts don't touch the receipts That's why everybody

1:59:39that works at like us every guy that you meet that works at a supermarket

1:59:42They'll have a mask on They'll look sad They look like you did something to

1:59:50them. I didn't do anything They just like their shoulders are slumped.

1:59:52They look like they know that they're becoming less of a man by the moment

1:59:55Imagine if you have to just touch that paper all day long.

1:59:58Yeah, and with they probably won't let you wear rubber gloves like a surgeon Is

2:00:03it as a chemical they put on the paper?

2:00:05I guess I guess it's how like it make it's made Going through that thing

2:00:11Maybe that's the kind of paper like that's why they're able to print on it.

2:00:15So easily to the fuck takes receipts Yeah, why don't we have them on our

2:00:17phone now? Well like receipts are just It seems like it's just such a waste

2:00:22of paper. That's why I like buying things on my phone.

2:00:24It's my favorite thing Yeah, that apple face thing.

2:00:27Oh, yeah, and you just buy stuff.

2:00:29It's the best. Oh, you don't have to think about it New York City subway.

2:00:32I wrote it for the first time not that long ago It's since I left

2:00:35and since I left in five years They could just do phone Apple pay right

2:00:41under the subway Dana white was telling me about that in Japan years and years

2:00:45and years ago It's so funny.

2:00:47He was like cuz we were doing a UFC in Japan He's like if you

2:00:50go to Japan because your fucking cell phone doesn't even work over there He goes

2:00:53their cell phones are so advanced that your cell phones bullshit like they're buying they're

2:00:58buying things with their cell phones I was like what he's like, yeah Yeah, they

2:01:01go up to vending machines and they buy things with their phone like that's crazy.

2:01:04Yeah Now everybody does that I didn't understand what a QR code was until maybe

2:01:08six months ago. Here's what I don't get When someone sends you an image with

2:01:13a QR code inside of it, Jamie, maybe you can help me out with this

2:01:16I know the answer to this already.

2:01:17How do you read the QR code?

2:01:18You can upload the QR code into whatever app you need to read the QR

2:01:21code with You can just tap it now on the photo app Oh Does that

2:01:27work for Samsung too for Android?

2:01:30Yeah Yeah, I am Interesting if somebody sends you like a You can copy and

2:01:35paste the phone number out of a photo now like oh You know what's pretty

2:01:38dope to someone sending you something and they send you a text message and you

2:01:42press on the thing The tracking number it'll ask you if you want to track

2:01:46the package like instantly. That's fun.

2:01:47Yes, please cut out all the stops Love it.

2:01:50Don't make me copy and paste don't me.

2:01:52I'm lazy I mean dude the way AI is being implemented into the phones now,

2:01:56too You'll be texting with somebody and then they give you the suggested response You

2:01:59can have a conversation without even having a thought just by keep on doing this

2:02:02and you'll get somewhere. I bet kids do.

2:02:04Oh, yeah Make it more romantic.

2:02:06Make me more of a feminist Yeah, dude.

2:02:10What's the feminist perspective on asking her to date?

2:02:14Yeah, it's funny. It's weird.

2:02:15People don't know how to talk anymore.

2:02:17They don't know how to discern what's true and what's not true Everything's coming down

2:02:21the AI and the AI is opening up a portal to talk to the aliens.

2:02:26I did hear this Yes, this is very important.

2:02:29This is Frank Sinatra's son here to tell us that Nancy's brother Yes, whoa.

2:02:34Yes Here to tell us Clearly Frank Sinatra's son, right?

2:02:39Right. Look at him. Obviously this not Woody Allen's kid.

2:02:43No, I know too handsome.

2:02:44Look at those fucking amazing facial features Former open AI executive said quote.

2:02:52We're building portals from which were genuinely summoning aliens the portals In the United States

2:02:58and China and Sam has added one in the Middle East.

2:03:01It's just like wildly important to get how scary that should be Okay, my only

2:03:06problem with that is who said that?

2:03:09Like government former employer. Why were they kicked out were they fired because they were

2:03:13schizophrenic? You know I'm saying yeah, like if you're just a former employee What's your

2:03:19name, right? What was what's your story?

2:03:21Did you get arrested for having like 52 machine guns in your trunk at a

2:03:24border crossing? Like who are you?

2:03:27Why are you a former employee right if you had such insight?

2:03:29Why didn't they keep you right?

2:03:30Yeah, you know about the alien portals?

2:03:33And they let you free I'm not saying that don't do it because they might

2:03:37that might be one of the ways that they figure out how to communicate with

2:03:40aliens It might be done just through the the ether into a computer It might

2:03:46be done through AI like AI gets a signal from another fucking planet where there's

2:03:51another AI where they go tap into some fucking Universal internet of AI that's not

2:04:00Unfathomable they're already talking to each other.

2:04:02They have AI chat rooms man.

2:04:03Yeah, there's like full platforms where it's just yeah Bots talking to bots having relationships.

2:04:08Yeah, yeah, they made up their own language.

2:04:10They made up their own religion Well, you see the one thing where they had

2:04:13this is it was a fun video.

2:04:14It was like they had Like AI talking to customer service on the phone and

2:04:19they were having it was just like on the phone having a conversation with an

2:04:22AI agent and their And then eventually the AI agent and the other and the

2:04:26AI went off of English speaking That's right.

2:04:30They're like we can just communicate in our own thing It was just like like

2:04:32beeps and noises and shit and it was just so weird.

2:04:35Yeah. Yeah, that's what they're gonna do Yeah, of course.

2:04:38Yeah, they had these two AI chatbots talking to each other and they started talking

2:04:41in emojis One of things Jamie said a long time ago.

2:04:44He goes Maybe emojis were like the first or like our version of hieroglyphs Hmm,

2:04:50do you know I'm saying like if emojis got better like right now They're kind

2:04:55of crude smiley face sad face.

2:04:57You know I mean yeah Water gun because you can't have a real gun.

2:05:01It's true heart But if it got to the point where you could have full

2:05:05sentence Maybe I'm maybe I'm mistaken.

2:05:08I believe they have a pregnant guy emoji.

2:05:11They do they do right?

2:05:12It looks like Bill Gates like because that's what Elon dunked on him Elon took

2:05:17a photo of Bill Gates with his potbelly and put it next to a photo

2:05:21of the pregnant man And it said if you want to lose a boner real

2:05:25fast, what do you what do you why would you ever send a pregnant guy?

2:05:29Emoji, what is the what do you message are you trying to get across?

2:05:33That's hilarious, bro. How fucking nuts is that emoji?

2:05:39What's I understand emojis? It's yeah, but that is That's just woke insanity.

2:05:44That might have been the last right by the way You still have it on

2:05:46your phone type right in type in pregnant man on an iPhone I don't know

2:05:50if it works on an Android, but if you type in pregnant man, that'll come

2:05:54up still up I'm gonna send it to you Joe.

2:05:58I can't imagine. It's not around anymore Okay, Lewis Pregnant man is it still real

2:06:10Yep Yep, there it is Joe.

2:06:13Yep, bam This one on the images says it's a woman, but that looks a

2:06:17lot like Theo. That's great Ah, Theo's pregnant.

2:06:21That's a woman. That's what it says.

2:06:23Yeah, that's a lesbian. That's a lesbian.

2:06:24Pregnant lesbian. Lesbian. That's okay They should put an AI Subaru behind her Yeah, I

2:06:30know what you're doing there's something with AI.

2:06:32What's the fucking um the pregnant man was nuts like who how many requests is

2:06:36it a starfish? I think if you try to ask AI to show you Look

2:06:41this up. It's a certain emoji if you ask it'll it just it glitches out

2:06:44AI if you actually had you be t to oh, I'm seahorse We both before

2:06:49we do that. I want to know what's going on that this employee who is

2:06:51this employee that got that?

2:06:53It is a former employee that says they're opening up portals to talk to aliens.

2:06:57I want to know if I should take this seriously Like who is the guy?

2:07:02Are they saying anything about him or they just saying a former employee?

2:07:06Yeah, I think this is come true He was doing like a one of those

2:07:09in -depth interviewer Investigations that he does about Sam Altman.

2:07:14I believe oh And I don't know where this this clip was going Maybe Sam

2:07:19Altman knew that they're writing a story about him and it's like let's make this

2:07:24story really retarded And I'll send Mike out and tell him that he's a foot

2:07:29tell tell him to tell Ronan that he's a former employee And that we're making

2:07:34portals to talk to aliens and that we're all demonic It's make him look like

2:07:38an asshole. Yeah, we'll just make the story look completely retarded Because the story you

2:07:42know the the financial aspects of the story like Elon suing him because open AI

2:07:46supposedly was supposed to be non -profit Initially, I don't know who's right.

2:07:50Yeah. I have no dog in the fight, but The if I was getting investigated

2:07:55and there was some real shit there I throw some fake shit in there Of

2:07:58course hire someone to have a story about aliens and portals that happened in the

2:08:02comedy community a few years ago I won't say the author's name, but he's the

2:08:06same guy that got Shane canceled the guy that guy who wrote that article the

2:08:09guy Shane put it off of SNL He's like was a go -wannabe investigative journalist

2:08:13in the comedy community It's like we got to get to the bottom of the

2:08:16problem with comedy, which is a just a crazy thing Um, and they're usually bad

2:08:20comics. Oh, but that's what it was.

2:08:21He was he was That's that guy was a fail.

2:08:23Yeah, and this is such a funny thing, dude.

2:08:27I wish I remember the publication new republic they had a print of attraction and

2:08:31an apology because somebody from the oh and it wasn't the ONA subreddit opian anthony

2:08:36subreddit was the opian anthony like just they're like that um Like a it was

2:08:42like your own private message word after the opian anthony subreddit got kicked off of

2:08:45reddit There's something they had a website for like opian anthony fans to like just

2:08:49troll and be lunatics They started feeding him false information on purpose Being like i'm

2:08:55like an inside guy on the track and then they went the new republic printed

2:08:58this article with a bunch of false information And uh chris italia from the stand

2:09:02Uh, he was one that was quoted.

2:09:04He threatened to sue the new republic and they had a they had to print

2:09:07an apology and a retraction They were like some of this information was we found

2:09:11out that it was falsely represented Such a funny thing Also, if you run an

2:09:15ai like sam altman is you could ask the ai hey I'm about to get

2:09:19accused of some shit What would be a good way to take some of the

2:09:24attention away from the real financial issues?

2:09:27Yeah, and make it seem insane and they would say Opening up a portal just

2:09:33communicate with aliens would discredit any other allegations that may be valid For the past

2:09:40year and a half. I've been investigating open ai and santa malton for the new

2:09:44yorker With my co -author and you morance I reviewed never before disclosed internal memos

2:09:51obtained 200 plus pages of documents related to close colleague including Extensive private notes and

2:09:58interviewed more than 100 people open ai was Founded on the premise that ai could

2:10:02be the most dangerous invention in human history and that its ceo would need to

2:10:07be a person of Uncommon integrity we lay out the most detailed account yet of

2:10:12why altman was ousted out by a board members and Executives who came to believe

2:10:17that he lacked integrity and ask were they right to allege that he couldn't be

2:10:21trusted they only Kicked him out for a short period of time and then they

2:10:25He got right back in right what happened there.

2:10:27I don't know but the thing is like Someone's saying that they're they're trying to

2:10:33open up a portal to talk to aliens.

2:10:35Is that just a conversation?

2:10:37They had where they were fucking around.

2:10:38Is that a plan? Are they really trying to do that like or is it

2:10:42like a duncan trussell that works at the the company that has some wild ideas?

2:10:46Right, right It could just be that or is it someone trying to sell the

2:10:50story and make the story more interesting for people to tune into because the reality

2:10:54is Most people that don't have a dog in that fight and like the a

2:10:58I fight open a I I and who's most people don't like more AI drama

2:11:03Yeah, they don't even but you had aliens like wait hold on.

2:11:07Yeah a portal to talk to aliens Yeah, you know, so it's it's a way

2:11:12to get people to pay more attention to it Or it could be what about

2:11:16all the people that are like people from the actual story I don't even like

2:11:19anti AI, but they're like they look down on it.

2:11:21They're like like using AI It's it's like cuz that's like it's like denying the

2:11:26internet in 94. It's like dead.

2:11:28I'm sure people We're mad when the printing press came out They really were they

2:11:35thought they there's there's people that made the argument that like reading was bad.

2:11:38Yeah It's crazy. It's gonna be impossible the next few years like every company You're

2:11:44not gonna be able to buy groceries without utilizing AI.

2:11:47It's gonna be Most of how we get stuff is all gonna be AI and

2:11:51automation. Oh, of course, but that's shopping And that's that's a big thing in the

2:11:55future like you're not even gonna shop They're gonna give you a profile and your

2:11:59clothes are gonna show up We're gonna set a budget people barely have contact with

2:12:02people already as it is Yeah, like what is that gonna be like when everything's

2:12:06automated when you go to the grocery store at least you say hi to the

2:12:09clerk You know a guy works there.

2:12:11There's the butcher. He's there every day.

2:12:13Hey, what's up, dude? It's like it's a little sense of community your local mom

2:12:17-and -pop shops That I already for the most part stop shopping I do I

2:12:21do Instacart all the time That's just also the thing it's gonna come in a

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2:15:14seen him in austin at the domain a little robot with a cowboy hat.

2:15:18He walks around Yeah, somebody had a robot on their podcast recently.

2:15:21Oh andrew schultz He did an interview with like whatever like the premiere robot is.

2:15:25Oh really? It was so funny, dude Was it good?

2:15:28It was great. What how's it talk?

2:15:30Does it does its lips move?

2:15:31Let me see. No, no, no It was just kind of like, uh, you know,

2:15:34it's like I robot. Yeah Yeah And they were fucking with it, dude.

2:15:37Oh, what do they tell us to do?

2:15:38I don't want to like ruin the bit, but it's pretty funny They were like

2:15:41pretend They were like pretend you had something and the robots It was so fucking

2:15:50funny. That's hilarious It really tickled my dick That's funny, dude.

2:15:55That's very funny Sam Altman, one reason why they could be calling it a portal

2:15:58is because the project is literally called Stargate Here we go And requires an insane

2:16:06amount of power so much so that Japan laughed at them apparently according to one

2:16:10article when they said that That's what they went they're opening up in Texas and

2:16:13the Japanese listen man powerful laugh if it is possible to do something like that

2:16:17I guarantee you that dude is not gonna tell you right I guarantee you that

2:16:21dude's just gonna do it No, especially if like there's other people working on it,

2:16:25too. Maybe that's why these scientists are going missing Right because if someone's like real

2:16:32close to cracking this Even you know the difference between winning and losing that's gonna

2:16:37be is this the alien portal of one point At one gigawatt Stargate.

2:16:42Is that right? What's that mean my gigawatts are real?

2:16:44I thought that was Yeah, we're getting really close the back to the future Yeah,

2:16:50it says a lot. It says a one gigawatt Stargate UAE cluster in Abu Dhabi

2:16:56with 200 megawatts expected to go live in 2026 This was the one that Iran

2:17:03was threatening to blow up right weren't they threatening to blow something up like this?

2:17:09I think they were weren't they threatening to blow up the open AI Hey, I'll

2:17:15check but I just that says whatever this says that was one of the things

2:17:18they're probably you motherfuckers. Yeah, we know where you're making the portal Iran's right the

2:17:24whole time. Well, that was a that was one of the crazy conspiracy theories about

2:17:28Iraq Is that one of the reasons why we went into Iraq they had a

2:17:31Stargate there? Iran threatens complete and utter annihilation of open a eyes 30 billion dollars

2:17:38Stargate AI data center in Abu Dhabi Yeah, they were gonna bomb it.

2:17:41Wow. Wasn't that a one of the conspiracy theories?

2:17:47from God what was it I can't remember But there was a it was something

2:17:57about Iraq and Stargate got a I can't remember what show I saw this on

2:18:03but they were talking about how at one point in time There was like internal

2:18:06discussion that there was a Stargate in Iraq And then maybe Saddam Hussein had this

2:18:12Stargate So it was one of many reasons why we went into Iraq well, it

2:18:16wasn't just because you know We wanted to control the oil get outside of him

2:18:20saying he sponsored terrorism Right weapons mass destruction sure right, but really there was a

2:18:27Stargate there gotta forget who fucking said it though Yeah, I'm seeing a few ancient

2:18:32aliens Could be that show was always the best Action Bronson.

2:18:37There's another guy who smoked more weed than anybody that I've ever had on the

2:18:40podcast He went how many blunts did he go through?

2:18:42If you had to guess Jamie Oh probably eleven the first time eleven eleven seven

2:18:48just non -stop just not stop just just not with the other one So he

2:18:52had that ancient alien show where they would just get high as fuck and watch

2:18:54ancient aliens. Have you ever see that?

2:18:56No It was so silly they would just get barbecued and watch these ancient alien

2:19:04hypotheses that might have been where I saw it But the idea of a Stargate

2:19:08because that was like an ancient civilization where where Iraq is where Saddam Hussein was

2:19:13controlling Dallas ancient Sumer that was like one of the first civilizations ever one of

2:19:19the first examples that we know of like written writing It's like that's that was

2:19:24a crazy Empire man. Yeah weird bizarre Structures and the incredible fucking artwork like really

2:19:31why and it came out of nowhere It's like an instantaneous civilization really interesting But

2:19:38if there was a Stargate there I Mean imagine that's why they're doing it in

2:19:42the Middle East. Why is he doing in the Middle East?

2:19:44Yeah, you know, I mean, why is he making Stargate in the Middle East?

2:19:48Abu Dhabi's fun Imagine if Jesus returns through Sam Altman's portal Jesus Christ himself Jesus

2:19:54is real Yeah, Jesus is gonna be floating with the robe on the sandals like

2:19:59right through Sam Altman's portal.

2:20:01Wow Samuel Jackson's a scientist like Everybody's freaking out be a great movie.

2:20:10It would be when are they gonna do a cool movie about the future of

2:20:13a Like that's that's got to be on the horizon really like a really about

2:20:16the dark side of what's gonna happen I think it's too late.

2:20:19I think by the time you make it a I won't let you release it

2:20:22Oh, it's over Black mirror did a pretty good job Black mirror.

2:20:26I can't watch it freaks me out so much every time watch a black mirror

2:20:30episode I walk away feeling like I was just sexually assaulted How about the one

2:20:33where that dog is chasing that lady though the robot dog?

2:20:36I've only watched like four or five episodes.

2:20:39What is that one called heavy metal?

2:20:40Yeah, but I mean if you watch them all Did you know that they'd have

2:20:43most of those plots are all kind of converging in our reality?

2:20:47Yeah, and they're based in reality they have a kernel of truth and then it

2:20:50turns into I watched the one where it was like You you got like blocked

2:20:54out your face got blocked out people couldn't see you anymore Like once your social

2:20:57credit score got low enough.

2:20:58Oh, yeah, I remember that one freaky dude.

2:21:00It is freaky. Yeah, it is freaky There was a one where they were that

2:21:04recorded all memories And so you could go into someone else's memory and you could

2:21:09record and let there was the one where the What was it called crocodile?

2:21:14That was the episode. Oh my god.

2:21:16I don't want to say what happens because it's it's it's a It's a twist

2:21:21But it's so dark and it's based on that it's based on reading people's memories

2:21:25I don't like watching like dark shit like I like I like happy It's not

2:21:29a good one before bed fun.

2:21:30No, do you go to bed?

2:21:31You're like what the fuck's going on dude?

2:21:33I get my my worst Anxiety about the future of the world at night for

2:21:38whatever reason. Yeah The worst fears of what's going on in the world always come

2:21:43out at night Yeah, it's cuz it's the end of the day You gotta offload

2:21:47all of the bullshit you read all day and saw online all day You know

2:21:50you have a moment to reflect you're not looking at your phone.

2:21:53You're like fuck also No one else is awake.

2:21:56That's my problem And so I don't have to think about anybody else I just

2:21:59think about my I'm just in my own head and then you're inevitably just dealing

2:22:02with The the truth of the world you stay up late Sometimes I'm trying not

2:22:08to I'm in bed by 10 o 'clock every night.

2:22:10Are you really unless I do like late shows.

2:22:12Yeah I'm up by 6 in bed by 10.

2:22:14That's awesome My problem is that's when I do my writing and it's also when

2:22:18everyone's asleep and I think I can get the most like thinking done You know

2:22:22what I mean? Yeah That's what's nice when you leave your son's mother You don't

2:22:26have a family to bother you But if you if I do Do shows like

2:22:34I've done shows on like a couple hours sleep I'll come into a podcast and

2:22:37I'm a moron. I can't remember anything It's like my brain is working at like

2:22:4040 % but like last night I got solid sleep I got a solid eight

2:22:45-hour sleep Yeah, so it's way better once I stop smoking weed the first few

2:22:50days are rough to get to sleep like I got to take like, you know,

2:22:54just some melatonin or some Does that work for you?

2:22:57No, not melatonin. I take a What's the other one?

2:23:01I think like it's like a chick's fucking thing and you know No, it's a

2:23:06natural thing. Um, that's fuck.

2:23:08What'd you say magnesium? There's a there's a product called Magnesi Ohm, which is like

2:23:14it's like a pink powder that like a hot chick told me about and I

2:23:17fucking love it And I literally put it in some sleepy time tea and I

2:23:21mix it up with some valerian root And I just drink that that puts me

2:23:24right out But when you stop smoking weed, I don't know how often you stop

2:23:28smoking weed Your dreams get crazy.

2:23:31Yeah, I know they get fucking wild super vivid.

2:23:34Yeah, very range, right? Yeah First time I ever lucid dreamed in my entire life

2:23:38was when I stopped smoking weed It was very it was last year.

2:23:41I never been able to control my dreams ever how many times you do it

2:23:44I've only lucid dreamt twice The first time I had stopped smoking weed.

2:23:49I was having really vivid dreams.

2:23:51I was backstage at a big like theater like huge theater right like massive like

2:23:55almost like a stadium -sized theater and Jeremy Piven was about to go on stage.

2:24:00I don't know Jeremy Piven, but I was God Jeremy Piven Let's go to entourage

2:24:03and he was a dick to me in the dream It was like he ignored

2:24:06me and I was like what the fuck and then I looked over and Greg

2:24:09Giraldo was standing next to me Oh, then you knew it was a dream.

2:24:11Greg Giraldo was seven feet tall in the dream He was a giant and I

2:24:14was like what the fuck's up with Jeremy Piven and then he was like I

2:24:17don't know and I was like, wait a minute.

2:24:18I was like Greg Giraldo was dead And then I was like, oh, I'm fucking

2:24:20dreaming And then I literally I just started running and I said I'm gonna fly

2:24:25and I just jumped dude It was the coolest thing I've ever done.

2:24:27I jumped up flew. It was nighttime I was outside now flew into the sky

2:24:32and I kept on going up and I couldn't come down I was starting to

2:24:34be over water and I was like I'm getting like up in the clouds So

2:24:38to go back down I would have to turn on my back and free fall

2:24:41like just like like that And then I'd turn back over and I'd hit a

2:24:44fucking thing and I'd start going back up Maybe 10 15 minutes of just flying

2:24:48around the sky over the ocean Wow coolest thing ever coolest thing ever and then

2:24:52another time a similar thing happened Like I realized I was dreaming and I was

2:24:56like, I'm gonna fly and I started running and I jumped and nothing happened I

2:24:59was like why can't I fly I'm dreaming and then I woke up So it

2:25:04was one of the best experiences you've ever had right maybe I literally flying and

2:25:08feeling like it was real was one of the coolest things I've ever done But

2:25:12have you ever tried to lucid dream on purpose?

2:25:14I've tried to do the techniques where they say like knock like am I dreaming

2:25:18right like that's one of the things once and it worked It was like oh

2:25:21my god all day. You were just knocking Yeah, I did it like every time

2:25:24I go through a door.

2:25:25I'd go am I dreaming?

2:25:27I did it look like only a few days and then we're lucid dreaming work.

2:25:31Yeah, so cool Yeah, but there's real techniques that I have not looked into and

2:25:35I'm always wondering why Because I'm always like I think would be really cool to

2:25:39just be able to have your life You can do whatever you want to do

2:25:42right you do magic Meanwhile, I put zero effort into it.

2:25:46I'm confused. I'm like why why don't I try to do that?

2:25:50Yeah, I have no desire to should be a class on it There should be

2:25:52like that should be like a class where you can learn how to lucid dream

2:25:56My fear is that I would like it so much that I would think only

2:26:01about going to sleep and wanting to lucid dream Yeah, rather than live my normal

2:26:06life So it probably fuck my normal life up maybe right because if you sleep

2:26:10eight hours a night Like if most of the day kind of suck for you,

2:26:13but for eight hours You can have boundless energy because you're not moving and you're

2:26:18not even conscious. You're out there Flying breathing underwater having sex with mermaids getting blowjobs

2:26:24by Angelina Jolie in her prime Iron Man, whatever you fucking whatever you want Wouldn't

2:26:32you do that and just like work at the Amazon factory all day?

2:26:35Yeah Just work to get your money so you can go to sleep go to

2:26:38sleep and become a superhero all you need is a comfortable bed Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2:26:43it's a better life That's the problem with the matrix There's a remember that movie

2:26:47You know it's funny with the dude with the steak never saw it you never

2:26:50saw the matrix never saw the matrix really to this day Wow, there's a scene

2:26:56where this one dude Joey pants.

2:26:58He's in a famous actor has been in a bunch of movies he he turns

2:27:02on people in the matrix and he Starts working for the man spoiler alert But

2:27:08one of the things that he says like when he's having this meeting with this

2:27:12Agent in the matrix he said I want to be an important person I want

2:27:16to be famous He's like cutting up a steak and he's eating a steak in

2:27:20the matrix while the outside world is just complete total dystopia Everyone's heads connected to

2:27:26a pipe. It's just like you're a human battery keeping the matrix alive.

2:27:30Yeah Oh, yeah, that's that that's the future.

2:27:32It's coming. That's coming. Yeah, we're just this fat just fucking meatbags with like a

2:27:37Just being fed ideas right there wasn't that wall -e I never saw wall -e

2:27:40either. I gotta watch it with my kid Apparently, it's one of the coolest movies

2:27:43ever. It's a fun movie.

2:27:44Yeah, yeah, you know same thing uh Total Recall was a similar concept, right?

2:27:48There's a there's a great um Instagram follow this guy makes such cool little mini

2:27:54movies with AI. It's all AI.

2:27:56It's called Gossip Goblin I don't know if you've seen this guy's channel, dude.

2:27:59I think I have I might be I might follow that guy Yeah, he's I

2:28:02think I've definitely seen let me see some of that Yeah, and he does like

2:28:06essentially he takes like sort of like the kernel of like whatever it is And

2:28:09then he puts together these dystopian little mini films Where it's like the future and

2:28:13a lot of it is plugging in to like this alternate reality and then like

2:28:17living a whole lifetime in Just a couple seconds.

2:28:20Can I listen to some of this?

2:28:21Ow! Felt real enough didn't it?

2:28:25That's exactly what a simulation would do give you perfect pain so you never question

2:28:29it or maybe you've just got nerve endings, eh?

2:28:31Your spools simulate whole worlds.

2:28:34Yeah? Mm -hmm They can sim whole lives.

2:28:37So if your little workshop can host a billion fake worlds How many layers deep

2:28:40does it go? It's all just simulations inside simulations inside simulations and and we're just

2:28:45sat here in one of them Thinking we're the original sure why not?

2:28:48I want to see it Whatever's underneath this just show it to me show it

2:28:51to me show it to me show it to me Coming right up A fish

2:28:58swims its whole life in a bowl convinced the water is all there is It

2:29:04doesn't see the glass that holds it nor does it notice the room beyond it

2:29:09or the city beyond that It never wonders about the planet or the galaxy or

2:29:15the vast cosmos beyond For all the worlds within worlds within worlds The fish does

2:29:22not care to know and it can't know All it can do is swim Holy

2:29:30shit That's amazing Dude, I've watched all of his videos.

2:29:38This guy's so good. He just did like a longer like I want to say

2:29:42feature like for this It was like Maybe 15 20 minutes on YouTube.

2:29:45He did like a longer one dude.

2:29:47He's awesome, dude It's just so incredible.

2:29:49This isn't just like putting a prompt in like he like he has editors He

2:29:52has voiceover guys and then he like manipulates like five different AI programs in order

2:29:56to make these movies It's really cool.

2:29:58Yeah, the patch right. It's just incredible how good it is now.

2:30:02Yeah, and so quickly Like look how good this is in comparison to something that

2:30:08just was out a year ago or two years ago There's never been anything that's

2:30:12been a leap like this before yeah the way they're gonna make films in the

2:30:15future Well the people that are gonna be able to make films.

2:30:18Yeah, you know I mean like people like we were talking about how the government's

2:30:22really bad at set making Censoring television and it cripples the television because that well

2:30:29you could see a similar problem with having to go through a fucking gigantic Film

2:30:35production company to make a movie.

2:30:37Mm -hmm like the money the investors people having their sales Everyone's got to get

2:30:42paid not just that but everyone has their say Right you can't just have an

2:30:47original idea. That's completely from one fucking crazy person.

2:30:51Yeah, but with this you can Yeah, with this you could just have one crazy

2:30:55guy who's got these wild ideas in his head But never could get anybody to

2:30:58finance them before you don't even need to anymore.

2:31:02You don't need actors You don't need any of that and it's gonna happen so

2:31:04exponentially over the next two or three years you're there's a great um, they show

2:31:08you there's a video that shows you the Advancement of AI over the past few

2:31:12years and I guess the the AI video they did will smith eating spaghetti like

2:31:17one from it was like five years ago And he's all fucked up.

2:31:19It's like Oh, yeah Yeah, I saw that and they'd keep on recreating that with

2:31:23new AI and the newest one is just like it's it's will smith eating spaghetti

2:31:27It's a movie and he's sitting at a table and he's just talking to this

2:31:30dude and he's just it looks like The most realistic thing you'll ever see and

2:31:34then eventually you're gonna be in the room with will You're gonna put on the

2:31:37helmet and you'll be in a room with will and then he's gonna blow me.

2:31:41That's what I was gonna say Get sucked off by will smith Imagine that's what

2:31:47you do all day. That's all I want to do.

2:31:49All I want to do is get head from famous 90s sitcom stars on so

2:31:52fun, dude David Faustino from uh Married with children Danny DeVito Al Bundy sucks your

2:32:00dick. Yep. Yep. Yeah, be great sucks your dick and then shits in his pants

2:32:04when you come. Yeah, that's what you're into It's what's weird then you get to

2:32:09ride a dragon home. Yeah, how about a dragon you fly home with Daenerys Targaryen?

2:32:14That's it like we were we're about to enter a world within our lifetime that

2:32:19is Indiscernible from what we're really living in right now.

2:32:22Yeah, which makes you think like Which one's real like when you're in that dream

2:32:27and you know, you're dreaming and you're flying.

2:32:28I bet it feels pretty real Right.

2:32:30Oh, yeah, right. That's the problem.

2:32:33Yeah, I mean What is that?

2:32:36It'll eventually it's just gonna be I mean, it's it's really just a theme in

2:32:39so many sci -fi movies here.

2:32:41There was also, um Maybe the most nobody talks about this fucking movie, but it's

2:32:45so good What i'm saying is maybe when you're dreaming Maybe that's just a different

2:32:51level of the simulation that you could kind of have input to right Maybe the

2:32:55parameters of the natural simulation is more rigid Rigid like you put in the work

2:33:00you made that gas digital you put in all those hours You're starting to make

2:33:03money doing great long process all this fucking complicated stuff You had to do figure

2:33:08out things about yourself get to where you are today in 2026 And that one

2:33:12it's like I want to fly You know like it might be just a different

2:33:16level of the simulation that we don't We don't really put a lot of attention

2:33:21to because it's we're only there eight hours a day So very few people become

2:33:25masters of it Yeah, that'd be cool though.

2:33:28It might be real. Yeah That might be what's going on Maybe I mean If

2:33:34this was all a simulation we wouldn't and it's we're a I like we're having

2:33:38a conversation We just don't know like that idea is so fucking dark and weird

2:33:42And also maybe all the booze and all the fucking drugs and all the sleeping

2:33:47pills That just fucks you up in that Next dimension So when you are in

2:33:53dream sleep, you're like oh, no, what did he do you just Snoring and hung

2:34:00over you did coke your fucking nose is bleeding and the the dream you is

2:34:05like god damn it I wanted to fly But you can't even you can't even

2:34:10do anything you get you just sleep You just sleep you just shut off and

2:34:14you rob yourself of that other dimension just wasting wasting away But I wonder if

2:34:18there's like a culture where everyone learns at a young age how to lucid dream

2:34:24Like some tibetan culture living in the mountain somewhere Just tapping into the dream world

2:34:32trying to figure out how to control it while they sleep It should be more

2:34:35popular Sometimes you talk to some chick and she's like yeah, I lucid dream every

2:34:39night I'm like right come on really She's on 18 medications.

2:34:43She's also bipolar And she thinks she's a witch there's always going to be people

2:34:48that are bullshitting you But there's got to be a bunch of people that are

2:34:51really good at lucid dreaming Yeah, because it's a thing like people know how to

2:34:56do it There's got to be like a guy who's like the guru like the

2:35:00lucid dream guru I bet there is I bet there's I bet there's courses there's

2:35:04stuff online movie back in the day waking life that alex jones was in I

2:35:09saw that on acid by myself when it came out in the movie theater And

2:35:13I was blown the fuck away by this movie What was he ranting about at

2:35:18the end? Do you remember?

2:35:18I remember he was just ranting something about a megaphone.

2:35:21Yeah Yeah, I wonder if I wonder his rant is relevant today I wonder we

2:35:25haven't listened to it in a while, but I bet if you listen to his

2:35:28rant Death and taxes don't talk about politics or religion This is all the involvement

2:35:35of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line lay down GI lay down GI We

2:35:40saw it all through the 20th century and now in the 21st century It's time

2:35:44to stand up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to be crammed into

2:35:47this rat maze We should not submit to dehumanization I don't know about you, but

2:35:53I'm concerned with what's happening in this world I'm concerned with the structure.

2:35:57I'm concerned The systems of control, those that control my life and those that seek

2:36:01to control it, even more!

2:36:03I want freedom! That's what I want, and that's what you should want!

2:36:07It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose of just some

2:36:10of the freedom, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the insecurities, because that is the

2:36:14central mode of control, make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up our

2:36:20sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny.

2:36:22We have got to realize that we're being conditioned on a mass scale.

2:36:27Start challenging this corporate slave state.

2:36:30The 21st century is going to be a new century, not the century of slavery,

2:36:34not the century of lies and issues with no significance, and classism, and statism, and

2:36:39all the rest of the modes of control.

2:36:42It's going to be the age of humankind standing up for something pure and something

2:36:46right. What a bunch of garbage liberal, democrat, conservative, republican.

2:36:51It's all there to control you, two sides of the same coin.

2:36:53Two management teams bidding for control, the CEO job of Slavery Incorporated.

2:37:00The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet

2:37:03of lies. I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to take a bite out

2:37:06of it. Do you got me?

2:37:08Oh, gosh, I'm pumped on this right now.

2:37:10That sounds like Antifa, right?

2:37:14That doesn't sound right -wing at all.

2:37:16It doesn't sound like a right -winger at all, yeah.

2:37:17At all. I mean, everything he's saying is true.

2:37:20Yeah. That's what it's not.

2:37:22It's like he's all red in the face now.

2:37:23This movie, Richard Linklater, right, made this?

2:37:26Yeah, yeah. This was a - Fun movie.

2:37:28Really fun movie. That's like 90s, right?

2:37:29Was it 90s? No, no, no, no, because I was already doing drugs.

2:37:31No, it had to be 2000s.

2:37:32If I had to guess, 2002.

2:37:342001? Nice. October 2001. Nice.

2:37:37I only started smoking weed when I was 17, and then I started experimenting with

2:37:40hallucinogens in those first few years of college.

2:37:44Just taking acid by yourself, watching that movie, being like, blown away.

2:37:49The animation was so cool, it was just shaky.

2:37:51Yeah. So you saw that thing that I had to do at the White House

2:37:54the other day? I did see it.

2:37:55Yeah. Yeah, yeah. People are pissed.

2:37:57Who's pissed? I don't know.

2:37:59People online. What, because I was at the White House?

2:38:01Yeah, they're like, yo, Joe, you can't be at the fucking White House, Joe.

2:38:03You said you were fucking politically - Homeless.

2:38:06Homeless. He joked about it.

2:38:08He called me a liberal during the whole thing.

2:38:10He's like, Joe, he's very liberal.

2:38:11Oh, I saw another, what did he, the other thing, the big conspiracy theory is

2:38:16that Trump is mad at you, and he came up to the UFC, and he

2:38:18was, he was talking shit to you?

2:38:20No, it was the opposite.

2:38:22That video came out, and it was like, look, Trump's fucking Joe Rogan getting embarrassed

2:38:25by Trump at the fucking UFC event.

2:38:27It was literally the opposite.

2:38:29I texted him on Friday about Ibogaine, and I was telling him how there's all

2:38:34these vets - That's a hallucinogen?

2:38:35This is the one the vets use.

2:38:37So, they've had to go to Mexico to get this.

2:38:40So, I've had these two different podcasts with Brian Hubbard and Rick Perry.

2:38:44Rick Perry was the governor of Texas, and they talked about Ibogaine, and Brian Hubbard

2:38:49was relaying his story about how Ibogaine saved him from addiction and fixed his brain,

2:38:55and then they had all these other stories of all these other veterans and all

2:38:59these different people that had PTSD and opiate addiction.

2:39:03I know a lot of people who've gone down there to do it.

2:39:06First, I found out about it from my friend Ed Clay, who runs a CPI.

2:39:10He's one of the guys that runs the Cellular Performance Institute in Tijuana that the

2:39:14UFC uses for stem cells.

2:39:16He had a pill problem, and he went down there and did it, and then

2:39:19opened up his own retreat down there because it was so potent, because it worked

2:39:23so well. I know so many people - What is the compound, though?

2:39:26It's called Ibogaine. Synthetic, like acid?

2:39:28No, no, no. It's from a plant.

2:39:31It's from the Ibogaine tree, and this one thing that they do is not recreational.

2:39:38It's very - it's supposed to be a horrible experience.

2:39:41You shit yourself, you throw up, and you have this very weird experience where it

2:39:45goes over your entire life and shows you in every detail why you're like this

2:39:49and why you do this and what you're - Sounds terrible.

2:39:53It also shuts off withdrawals and addiction on a lot of people.

2:39:57It's really effective. Really? But for a lot of these guys with PTSD, it was

2:40:01the only thing that fucking helped them, and for the longest time, they've had to

2:40:04go to Mexico or to other countries, and it's really expensive.

2:40:07And so they formed the Texas Ibogaine Initiative, and is it Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick?

2:40:16Is that what his title is?

2:40:17So he dedicated $100 million to it.

2:40:20And so now they're going to start doing it with people like soldiers and police

2:40:25officers and different people with PTSD and just people with just general depression and all

2:40:32sorts of addictions. It's not just like opiates, but alcohol, gambling, all sorts of shit.

2:40:37Yeah. Yeah. And I told them about it.

2:40:39Have you ever done it?

2:40:40No. No. But I had these guys on the podcast, and I know so many

2:40:43people that have done it, particularly soldiers that have done it, and people with opiate,

2:40:48like my friend Ed. And I said, I told them about it.

2:40:51I said how effective it is, and I said, you know, and it's been held

2:40:54up for so long. And he said, what are you looking for?

2:40:57Are you looking for FDA approval?

2:40:59He goes, it sounds good to me.

2:41:00He said, let's do it.

2:41:01And so literally, sees me at the UFC the next day, shakes my hand, and

2:41:05says, it's done. Wow. That's what he was saying.

2:41:07That's so funny. I was like, and I said, thank you, sir.

2:41:09It wasn't like he was mad at me at all.

2:41:11People jump on these conclusions like...

2:41:13Well, that's okay. You know, you're allowed to.

2:41:16But this is the truth.

2:41:17That's exactly what happened. He came to me and he said, it's done.

2:41:19We're going to take care of it.

2:41:20This is a good thing.

2:41:21It's a good thing for the soldiers.

2:41:22It's a good thing for everybody.

2:41:23And then he had the press conference the next week.

2:41:25But why would anybody be...

2:41:26It's so funny. So like how they just choose to be against things, even good

2:41:30things. Like that's, it's unquestionably a really good thing.

2:41:33That one is a really good thing for everybody.

2:41:35Because addiction is a huge problem.

2:41:37And Ibogaine is one of the most effective treatments for addiction that they've ever found.

2:41:42Another one that's really good for addiction is psilocybin.

2:41:45They're going to study that as well.

2:41:46And hopefully fast track that as well.

2:41:48That's part of this bill.

2:41:49This bill is all about this executive order.

2:41:52This executive order is all about psychedelic treatments for people with depression, mental health disorders.

2:41:58And it's all to reclassify this stuff.

2:42:00And this is one of the things that I said.

2:42:02And this is why it was important for me to not just be there, but

2:42:06to say this. It's that these drugs are not illegal because they're harmful.

2:42:10Alcohol is harmful. That means like a troll.

2:42:12It's very painful. legal. Oxycodone is harmful.

2:42:13It's legal. They're illegal because of the 1970s Controlled Substances Act.

2:42:19This is by the Nixon administration.

2:42:21And this is just, they wanted to silence the anti -war people and the civil

2:42:24rights people. That's it. So they said, what are these people doing?

2:42:27Well, they're doing acid. They're taking mushrooms.

2:42:29They're doing this. They're doing that.

2:42:30Said, make all that shit illegal as fuck.

2:42:33Make it the most illegal.

2:42:35So they put it all into schedule one, which means it has no medicinal benefit.

2:42:39And I was telling them, I'm like, it has benefit.

2:42:42And I always had a benefit.

2:42:43It could save lives. Yeah.

2:42:45I, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm, I get terrified of psychedelics at this point.

2:42:49I used to love them, but I just, I mean, every time if I take

2:42:53mushrooms, acid, doesn't matter what it is, there will be an hour where I'm crying,

2:42:58talking to God and thinking about my mother every time.

2:43:02Maybe that's what you need in your life.

2:43:04Maybe. I don't know, dude.

2:43:05Sometimes I can just push it down.

2:43:06I think it should be regulated in the sense that I think we should understand

2:43:10it better, make sure it's pure and make sure that it's administered by people who

2:43:15know what they're doing. And that's what they're doing at places like beyond, which is

2:43:19in Mexico. People are going down there and have these Ibogaine sessions, but they're also

2:43:24doing it where they're strapped up to heart monitors.

2:43:27They, they're very careful. You can't do it if you have a bad heart because

2:43:30apparently it's really rough. Apparently it's not fun at all.

2:43:33Again, I haven't done it, but the people that I know that have done it,

2:43:36it's rescued though. Dude, let's microdose some Ibogaine.

2:43:39I don't think you need microdose.

2:43:40I think you got to go, I think you got to meet the devil, cocksucker.

2:43:43Joey Diaz always says, what the fuck are you doing with that microdose?

2:43:46I'm trying to meet the devil.

2:43:47Yeah. When I went, when I was younger, I was like, dude, I would love

2:43:49to go on like a peyote retreat.

2:43:51When you hear the same thing, it's like you vomit and you spend fucking, you

2:43:54know, you have to have a special shaman, like walk you through it and guide

2:43:57it and they pat your head with a wet towel.

2:43:59And peyote is mescaline. And I had a buddy of mine who did mescaline in

2:44:03New York city. He said he could, he could hear people talking in another building

2:44:07and he goes, he was watching them through the window.

2:44:09They were far away and he could hear them talking in his head.

2:44:12I was like, what the fuck?

2:44:14I bet you, I bet you he couldn't hear what they were saying.

2:44:15I bet you he was, I bet you he was making up their words.

2:44:19I think he tapped in.

2:44:21I think he tapped in to the quantum field and he was inside their head.

2:44:26Like the alien technology, just instantaneous transport.

2:44:30It doesn't have to go through sound.

2:44:31You can just pick up on the frequency of their thoughts.

2:44:33You know, all drugs would be legal.

2:44:35Whatever. It's your body. Exactly.

2:44:37If alcohol is legal and I think it should be, it was one of the

2:44:41worst ones for you. If that shit's legal, how many people every year?

2:44:45The president of Columbia was like, he was like alcohol is worse than cocaine.

2:44:48It was a quote a couple years ago.

2:44:51You did say that. Oh no, it was Hunter Biden.

2:44:52It was Hunter Biden. I think it's actually true.

2:44:54I think it is true.

2:44:55Yeah. I think actual real cocaine in terms of like the actual, like from the

2:44:59coca tree. The disco shit.

2:45:00I'll tell you what's definitely better for you is coca leaves.

2:45:04Those people that live in like the Alps.

2:45:06Oh, they just chew on them?

2:45:07Yeah, they chew on coca leaves.

2:45:08That's like in like high mountainous areas, high altitude herders, they chew coca leaves.

2:45:15Yeah. They love that shit.

2:45:16I'm sure. It's supposed to be really good.

2:45:18It's supposed to be like great coffee.

2:45:20Yeah. For real. It's like not supposed to be like you're on coke.

2:45:23It's supposed to be like you're, you feel energized and stimulated and it's not bad

2:45:28for you, but it fucks your teeth up.

2:45:29Oh, I'm sure. You get these dudes with these rotten cocaine chew teeth.

2:45:34Have you ever seen it?

2:45:35No, I haven't. Find me some coca leaf teeth pictures.

2:45:39Yeah. Ask perplexity about this condition and why?

2:45:42Why do people get coca leaf tea?

2:45:45Face? Because it does. It rots your teeth the way it looks like.

2:45:50Yeah, I'm sure. But that should be legal too.

2:45:52Just brush your fucking teeth.

2:45:53Yeah. Maybe not though. Maybe it eats your teeth.

2:45:55Because you got to think about if you can make cocaine out of it, what

2:45:58kind of acid stuff is in that leaves?

2:46:00I don't know. It is just a leaf, right?

2:46:02Something else is coming up.

2:46:03Oh! That's betel nuts or something that says.

2:46:06Oh my God. Betel nuts?

2:46:08What is a betel nut?

2:46:09I don't know. So it doesn't fuck them up from coca leaves?

2:46:13Oh, even better. Bolivia legalizes chewing it.

2:46:17Click on that link. NBC News to the right of that.

2:46:20Ew. Yeah. Look at that.

2:46:21Bolivia legalizes chewing and ingesting coca leaves.

2:46:24Bolivia wins. They're ahead of us.

2:46:28They win. The real problem with it is fentanyl and the fact that you have

2:46:34to get it from a fucking coke dealer.

2:46:35Yeah. Those are the real problems.

2:46:36Having to talk to a coke dealer is actually the worst part of the entire

2:46:39process. Pope plans to chew coca leaves during Bolivia visit.

2:46:42Jesus Christ, the Pope's dead now.

2:46:43They killed him because he wanted to chew the coca leaves.

2:46:46That's a 2015 article. That's wild.

2:46:50Because it is weird. Is cocaine worse than alcohol?

2:46:55Because if it's not, why is alcohol the one that's legal?

2:46:59He specifically requested to chew it.

2:47:03Wow. What a freak. Duncan Trussell has a great joke about Adderall.

2:47:09He goes, Adderall's like, someone did cocaine and went, I can fix this.

2:47:15That's a great joke. I think, I mean, I've never done Adderall either for the

2:47:23same reason that I've never done coke.

2:47:25Like, fuck. It just seems too good.

2:47:28Seems like it gets you too jazzed up.

2:47:30I mean, I had like debilitating, I still have debilitating ADHD.

2:47:33I haven't done Adderall. What does that mean though?

2:47:38So I get like, I get anxiety if I look at my mail on my

2:47:43kitchen counter. Right now there's a pile this high of mail.

2:47:46If I look at it, like I feel like - Because you're not doing the

2:47:49work. You're not going through your mail.

2:47:51It's just a crippling depression it feels like.

2:47:54Like if I do my taxes, like I have a business manager that does all

2:47:56this shit, but when I had to do it myself, it would like cripple me.

2:48:00I would like, I would feel like I've had depression issues back in the day.

2:48:03I felt like depression. I feel like I want to lie down.

2:48:05When I literally, when I just look at the mail on my counter, they call

2:48:07it ADHD paralysis, where there's things that you don't like to do and the tedious

2:48:12little tasks. Right. That, it feels like, like schoolwork was like really bad for me.

2:48:18That was really, really hard.

2:48:19But on the flip side, if there's something that you really love, do you have

2:48:23a lot of attention to it?

2:48:25A lot of energy. I dive in.

2:48:27Like I obsess over it so like I I love the things that I do

2:48:31I love work like I really love what I do for a living I do

2:48:33a bunch of things really but like I love work.

2:48:37I love getting on business meetings I love taking a phone call.

2:48:39I love you know, I love writing jokes I love going on the road I

2:48:41like so the things that I love to do I dive completely into and I

2:48:44just sort of see that's where it's stupid to me that That's a disease, right?

2:48:49That seems like you're allergic to boring shit I don't think that's a disease.

2:48:53I think modern society has got people convinced That's a disease.

2:48:57I think that there are yes I think most people don't want to fold their

2:49:00laundry I think most people don't want to do their taxes or go through their

2:49:04mail most but for me It hits me in a way where like I feel

2:49:08a physical like recoil Like I genuinely like you're allergic to boring shit I don't

2:49:14think it's a bad thing at all.

2:49:15I think they've got you tricked They've got all of us tricked.

2:49:18Yeah, everybody that I know and me included that probably has ADHD or I think

2:49:23I can go to a doctor They'd say there's something wrong with me.

2:49:26They'd say there's something wrong with you You could have got on pills when you

2:49:28were a kid and it would have ruined all of it Yeah, it would have

2:49:30fucked up that weird gift that you have where you can lock in So what's

2:49:34the flip side of that weird gift?

2:49:36The other thing doesn't seem important right other shit is boring But you have way

2:49:40more energy for the thing that's exciting.

2:49:42It's a great point. It's a superpower.

2:49:43Yeah It's a great point and I by the way I've said that specifically that

2:49:46my ADHD is a superpower in certain regards the fact that I could get so

2:49:50locked in on the things that I really really want to do But I've never

2:49:53really considered the fact that like it's making me avoid doing the things that just

2:49:57are fucking Oh tedious whatever and by the way, I figured it out.

2:50:01I still went down the path.

2:50:02I'm 44 years old I get my shit done.

2:50:04I still the laundry gets folded the taxes.

2:50:06Yeah, it's just boring. Yeah.

2:50:08Yeah, but that's discipline discipline That's all I was gonna say the discipline part is

2:50:12like that some people can't right or like how does it get done?

2:50:16That you know, I mean I was like we're like a really bad student like

2:50:19I just skin in my teeth Graduated I understand but the idea that this gift

2:50:24that you have is what doesn't get concentrated on the gift is you have an

2:50:28extraordinary Amount of energy that you can devote to something you really love most people

2:50:33wish they had that that's the gift the Flip side of it.

2:50:38Of course the other things aren't even remotely interesting because you need to be stimulated

2:50:42in order to give something all of your attention You know some people could just

2:50:46drone on and drone on and they don't have ADHD that doesn't that's not good

2:50:51Yeah, I think ADHD just made it made growing up pretty tough like cuz you

2:50:56get peg you get you get you get called a bad kid I'm a millionaire

2:51:04and I had bad grades when I was 12 You're not wrong.

2:51:10No, you're not wrong dog.

2:51:11I know I'm right. You're right.

2:51:13All right. Let's wrap this bitch up I got to get out of here.

2:51:16So Gas Digital what else tell everybody Skank Fest on sale today Oh shit 420

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2:51:37Well, I bet the skankers already know.

2:51:39What do you call your people?

2:51:40Skanks skanks the skanks already know Yeah, we got a big line.

2:51:43That's amazing dude Congratulations on all this because every comic always agrees that it is

2:51:49absolutely the best festival They fucking love it.

2:51:51They love the vibe. They love you know, how much effort and time you guys

2:51:55put into it It's awesome, dude.

2:51:57Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

2:51:59Yeah, but it's gonna be it's gonna be you should come one day Joe I

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