Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Mar 16 2026
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0:02Guaranteed human. I think that this conflict will certainly come to the end in the
0:07next few weeks. Could be sooner than that.
0:09But the conflict will come to the end in the next few weeks.
0:11And we'll see a rebound in supplies and a pushing down of prices after that.
0:16But yes, we were very aware that we would have short -term disruption.
0:19We would cause a little bit of increased prices on Americans.
0:23Prices today are still far below what they were in the Biden administration, where they
0:27were begging, bartering, and bribing Iran to behave better.
0:31We had $5 gasoline in the middle of the Biden administration.
0:35We hope we don't get there this time.
0:37But at least this increase in gasoline prices is for something that's going to change
0:42the geopolitical situation in the world forever.
0:46So there you have Energy Secretary Chris Wright laying out a few things.
0:51One, the timeline that the White House, Trump himself, has been hammering.
0:55And I just said that I think that that's probably going to be the timeline,
1:00which is a few weeks from now.
1:02I think it's going to be two weeks or less.
1:04We'll see. But there's an artificial disruption in supply that is happening right now because
1:10of that. Energy Secretary sounds like he's confident that supply will come back online.
1:15Prices will start to drop from there.
1:17That is certainly the hope.
1:19But I think that that is very possible.
1:22Clay, the question that we look at now, though, is what exactly the end state
1:33here is supposed to look like?
1:34Like, it's starting to feel more and more like the destruction of Iran's military and
1:43then just walking away and saying, we can do that again if we want to,
1:48is the goal here? There is not really much talk of regime change.
1:53John Fetterman, the senator, weighed in on this one and the state of things in
1:58Iran. This is cut three.
2:00Listen to Senator Fetterman. I largely agree with what the president said, that Iran has
2:05essentially been defeated. And why don't the Western medias just demand that Iran provide proof
2:12of life of the Ayatollah?
2:15Because I think the Iranians are doing kind of like a weekend at Ayatollahs.
2:20And they're trying to pretend this guy is functional or even alive at this point.
2:24And I think we just call them out and realize that they're a nation that's
2:28been effectively defeated. And they don't have any leadership.
2:32They're unwilling to even provide proof to refute that.
2:36Overall, I think it's entirely appropriate to remind the world that if you want their
2:41oil, you know, you need to help us to reopen the straits.
2:46Weekend at Ayatollahs, he says, Clay.
2:48Maybe he's a listener. We need to, at Producer Alley, do we have an invite
2:52recently that we've given to John Fetterman?
2:55I don't know if we have.
2:56We should extend one to him as well to come on in the program because
3:00he's making a lot of sense.
3:02And the most recent data that I've seen, Buck, says that Fetterman now is more
3:07popular with Republicans in Pennsylvania than he is with Democrats.
3:12So we should definitely reach out to him.
3:15Producer Alley will and invite him on the program.
3:18As you were hearing, President Trump, Buck, you're talking about, like, what are the long
3:22-range goals? He said that based on the numbers, we have seen a 95 %
3:28reduction in Iran's drone attacks and a 90 % reduction in their missile attacks.
3:34And he said, quote, they don't have many missiles left at this point.
3:39And so, essentially, they are wiped out.
3:43And I think the question is, who is their leader?
3:46We said earlier that there were reports.
3:48There's actually been two reports.
3:50One is that the Mojtaba had to go to Europe for months to be treated
3:59for impotence so that he could have children.
4:03Just leaving it here for a moment, now they're saying that he was gay.
4:08Is it possible that the impotence just was with the women?
4:14My point on this is, I think more and more, there is a likelihood that
4:21he is unable to be leader and that they are just using him as a
4:25figurehead. Now, Buck, I don't know if you saw this.
4:28There's even some reports that he's not in Iran, that he is potentially in Russia,
4:34that he may be in China, that he may be in a different country right
4:39now, and that Iran is using him as a figurehead.
4:42We still have not heard his voice.
4:44We haven't seen any video from him at all.
4:46They released a statement. They showed up for a celebratory raising, ascension, I guess, of
4:54him to the leadership of Iran and danced around with a cardboard cutout of him.
4:59None of these things inspire confidence that he is okay.
5:03And I wonder, again, you used to do all this analysis.
5:06I'm sure there's... How many people do you think are working in the CIA right
5:10now on whether Little Mo is still alive?
5:15Like, a thousand? Like, how many people are looking at every single aspect of evidence
5:20out there and writing up reports on this?
5:22How big would that group be right now?
5:24how you think i mean it's i don't say it's thousands a lot it's a
5:27lot of people that are going to be pouring over all of the different collection
5:32that the intel agencies have access to to try to figure this out uh but
5:36again even if he's let's say he's dead okay so what so then what right
5:44it is that the next step still is not clear we don't have an opposition
5:48that looks like they're going to take over and we haven't heard about any so
5:53-called moderate from within the existing governance uh infrastructure of iran that could maybe be
6:01a more moderate future for the country so i just feel like we're we're gonna
6:06we're taking away all the ayatollah's toys are blowing up all their stuff we are
6:10killing thousands of their soldiers in this process i might add people don't really talk
6:13about that but there are there are people on these ships there are people operating
6:17these trucks and these man pads and such so we are we are just to
6:22know when when people say it's not really war we're blowing up thousands of their
6:25soldiers this is a war let's let's always make sure that we have that obligation
6:31to speak truthfully about this stuff it's not a boots on the ground all in
6:34war but it's a war uh if somebody else was doing this to us we
6:38would certainly think of it as a war so we're in a in a short
6:42-term war with iran a conflict and and i think that we're gonna like i
6:48said trump is gonna wake up one day and look at the look at the
6:52numbers and the charts and everything else and say all right we've we've punished them
6:57enough now let's see if they want to be more reasonable going forward i will
7:02add i don't think they will be more reasonable going forward this is the other
7:05part of this right this is this is an intractable problem it's like dealing with
7:08north korea everything that you would think would work on a country that has even
7:14the most baseline reason morality all these kinds of things if you look at it
7:20from the perspective of well of course they should do that because we would do
7:22that no it's not how they do things it's certainly not how they do things
7:26in iran and from a leadership perspective and uh you know i think everyone should
7:31just gauge their expectations with this in mind there's no opposition faction that has emerged
7:37we're not seeing any protests on the streets or anything like that at all and
7:42yeah i think trump's gonna wrap this up we're gonna say their military is essentially
7:45gone and we'll see what he will say and i mean this like a quote
7:49trump will be like we'll see what happens that's going to be where this ends
7:53i look the message that we have sent to iran is first of all we
7:57got to figure out who the leader is and i think it's not a surprise
8:01that they don't want us to know who the leader is because they're aware that
8:04we could kill whoever the leader is and we have established that that is the
8:07fact um i think one of the challenges going forward for iran will be they
8:13now know that we can take out their leadership whenever we want and so how
8:17do you stand up in any way to uh to anyone in the united states
8:24or israel with that knowledge i'll also point this out there are reports and i
8:29think this is super significant and it has not been talked about enough there are
8:34reports that saudi arabia's leader is calling president trump and saying keep hitting them this
8:42is mbs he is the leader 43 44 year old relatively young leader of saudi
8:48arabia the crown prince there who has effectively taken on the power this is not
8:53a united states and israel against the middle east war the middle eastern powers saudi
9:00arabia the uae qatar the ones that actually have developed and functional economies they're all
9:07saying hit iran so what i think is going to be the legacy that comes
9:12out of this is with iran neutered with iran without any significant weaponry i think
9:18the uae uh bahrain all of these different places including saudi arabia buck are going
9:25to sign on uh saudi arabia in particular who has not done it yet to
9:29the abraham accords and we're going to see a level of peace start to emerge
9:34in the middle east that frankly we haven't seen in generations and that peace is
9:38not going to be based on arab versus jew it's going to be based on
9:42countries that want to have functional growing economies and countries that don't you know the
9:48real part that i think has to be galling to iran is if you study
9:53middle eastern history iran was one of the economic powers of this region for hundreds
10:00of years now they've been overwhelmingly surpassed by saudi arabia and qatar and the uae
10:07certainly israel and if you're a proud educated member of iran's uh you know middle
10:15class which is fairly substantial don't you have to look around and ask what you've
10:21gotten for the last 47 years do you feel like hey life is better now
10:25than it was before the islamic republic came into power the one thing they sold
10:29buck was we are a military power and we can punch above our weight and
10:35they just got completely defanged in almost no time at all what have you actually
10:39gotten that's positive after 47 years this is one of the very sad but true
10:46things about authoritarian regimes and why they're so intractable they can rely on The phobia
10:54of the population, the extreme fear of the population.
10:58Who wants to be the person, Clay, from the Iranian -educated classes, not part of
11:04the government infrastructure, who ends up the first one dangling from a crane by their
11:10neck in the neighborhood? It's very tough.
11:13Yeah. People have families. People want to live.
11:16They don't want to die.
11:18And you're thinking about this.
11:20Where does this go? This was one of the huge problems we had in Afghanistan,
11:24was even the Afghans who were brave enough, and there were many of them to
11:27fight alongside Americans at different times against the Taliban, they were like, you guys aren't
11:33going to leave us at some point.
11:34You have our back, right?
11:35And then what do we do?
11:36You're going to stay, and you're going to make sure that this— We're in this
11:39fight until the end, right?
11:40Yeah. You can imagine with the Iranians right now, okay, we're blowing up the military.
11:45There's still a lot of bad guys with AK -47s and probably scimitars or something
11:50like it, machetes, walking around the neighborhood.
11:53And this is—what are we offering on that?
11:56And the answer is not a whole heck of a lot.
11:59So I don't see this changing, this on -the -ground reality changing in any meaningful
12:03way, which just means that we're in a little bit of, like I said, the
12:06mow -the -grass phenomenon with the Iranian military.
12:08We're going to blow up all their stuff.
12:10And now whatever they do also, if when they get enough stuff back, meaning military
12:15capability or even just paramilitary capability, terrorist capability essentially, if they decide to hit us,
12:21they'll be like, well, yeah, you guys blew up all of our ships and all
12:23of our stuff. And, you know, you can see how this is going to go,
12:26right? We're not—we're not in a place where—I like—you are more optimistic about the long
12:32-term prospects here than I—I'm very optimistic about Venezuela and have it all along, to
12:35be clear. Very optimistic. I think it was the right move, a great move.
12:39Iran, I'm still sitting here like, I want to see what the—I think I know
12:43what the end state is.
12:44And we can go back and play this in a few weeks.
12:46It's going to be Trump saying, all right, we destroyed their military.
12:49We showed them what's up.
12:50Maybe we'll talk in the future.
12:52That's it. I think that's where this is heading.
12:55I don't see it heading some other way.
12:57I think it's one—yeah, this is an interesting conversation.
13:00I'm optimistic only in the sense of it's one thing for Israel to do well.
13:05It's another thing for the United States to do well.
13:07A lot of times, it's when people who are similar to you that start doing
13:12well, where you really start to question the decision -making that you have embraced, right?
13:18It's one thing if Elon Musk gets richer.
13:21It's another thing if a guy you went to school with is suddenly a billionaire
13:24and you're looking around saying, wait a minute, what did he do?
13:26We haven't made the same grades, everything else.
13:29Iran's neighborhood, the Middle East, a lot of these countries are thriving.
13:32Yeah, they used to look down on Saudi Arabia.
13:34They used to look down on Qatar.
13:36They used to look down on Bahrain, all these countries, and they used to think,
13:41hey, those guys are backwoods, and now all those countries are thriving.
13:46The people are rich. They're building huge, incredible edifices all over those countries, and meanwhile,
13:53Iran keeps falling further behind.
13:54I do wonder how much looking at your neighbors and how much success they're going
13:59to have makes the antagonism and the anger more prevalent in Iran.
14:03That's one of the things that I just keep coming back to.
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15:48Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
15:51Iran, the big story of the day.
15:53We're going to give you the latest on it.
15:55President Trump went live, and we carried some of that for you in the first
16:00hour. If you want to go back and listen to that, of course.
16:02All three hours of the Clay and Buck show were up in podcast form as
16:05soon as we finish with them.
16:06And you can listen to them on the iHeart app or wherever you get your
16:09podcasts. Now, Trump covered a whole range of issues.
16:12We have this ongoing, I guess we just call it airstrikes, Clay.
16:18I say this is war.
16:20But that's okay. I don't want to get into some definitional fight with people.
16:24As long as we understand that we are engaged in acts of war, we are
16:27killing people, we are blowing up military materiel, we have lost over a dozen soldiers
16:35in this process, or I should say a dozen service members in this process as
16:39well. So it's serious business, whatever we want to call it.
16:44It's a serious business, and this is something that the country should pay close attention
16:48to. Now, with the latest on this, there are concerns over the price of oil,
16:55the Strait of Hormuz, allies assisting us with the Strait of Hormuz, or the lack
17:03thereof, lack of help from them.
17:05So here we have Trump, for example, this is cut 34, on whether France's Emmanuel
17:11Macron has been helpful, and what's going on with our allies and the Strait of
17:17Hormuz. Here's what he has to say, play 34.
17:19Have you been speaking with the French President Macron about the coalition to reopen the
17:24Strait of Hormuz? Yeah, I have spoken to him.
17:27He's been on a scale of 0 to 10.
17:32I'd say he's been an 8.
17:34Not perfect, but it's France.
17:38We don't expect perfect. Are you confident that France will help with the reopening of
17:44Strait of Hormuz? Yeah, I mean, sure.
17:47He's going to, I think he's going to help.
17:49I mean, I'll let you know.
17:50I spoke to him yesterday.
17:52I don't do a hard sell on them because my attitude is we don't need
17:57anybody. We're the strongest nation in the world.
18:00We have the strongest military by far in the world.
18:03We don't need them. Clay, Trump being Trump there and just laying it out.
18:08He's like, look, if allies want to help, that'd be great.
18:10He says, Macron, 8 out of 10 from Trump is pretty good because, you know,
18:13if it were a 2 out of 10, he wouldn't be shy.
18:15Or a 0 out of 10, he wouldn't be shy about saying it.
18:18But getting more allies to help, this is a, remember, it's not just Iranian oil.
18:24It's Iraqi and Kuwaiti and, you know, you have to, the Saudi.
18:27You got to think about all the different factors here with the Strait of Hormuz
18:32and who is affected by this.
18:35Yeah, and look, I mean, the reality is China, I believe, is the most impacted.
18:41They're the ones who need Iranian oil worse than anybody does.
18:45And so the amount of oil and gas that impacts us that comes out of
18:49the Strait of Hormuz is almost nonexistent.
18:53In fact, we're a net exporting country when it comes to our overall oil and
18:57gas. And if you paid attention, the oil and gas company stocks have actually been
19:01on fire because Trump prefers that the price of oil and gas be in the
19:05$50 area. The oil and gas providers, some of them say they need it to
19:10be in the $60 area.
19:11For those of you that are paying attention right now as I speak to you,
19:16oil and gas is $94 a barrel, and it's down from $120 last Sunday when
19:23it spiked and hit a higher rate.
19:26So the price of oil and gas has come down.
19:29The price will go up, and President Trump has been pretty clear that when, and
19:33I think this is 100 % accurate, when we end our actions in the Middle
19:39East, they will be coming back down.
19:41Here, by the way, we were talking earlier about Mojtaba Khamenei and the fact that
19:46Trump has been told that he may actually be gay.
19:50But Trump says we don't know where he is or even if he's alive.
19:55He was asked about this at a press conference at the Kennedy Center just a
20:00little bit earlier in the day.
20:02Here is cut 35, Trump on the man that has been elevated to the new
20:07supreme leader of Iran and whether he's even alive.
20:10Cut 35. A lot of people are saying that he's badly disfigured.
20:16They're saying that he lost his leg, one leg, and he's, you know, been hurt
20:22very badly. Other people are saying he's dead.
20:26Nobody's saying he's 100 % healthy.
20:29And, you know, he hasn't spoken because the Ayatollah would sit and he'd spew hate
20:35from a form of a throne.
20:38Not as nice as a throne.
20:40I like the English throne much better.
20:43But it was a fancy chair.
20:46But he'd spew hate from his chair.
20:48But you'd see him a lot, right?
20:50This one, we haven't seen at all.
20:52So that could be for a lot of different reasons.
20:55We don't know if he's dead or not.
20:59Okay, a couple of other things here, Buck.
21:01President Trump says, so he doesn't, that was a response to a question from Peter
21:04Doocy. He says, we don't know if he's alive or dead.
21:08And President Trump says, one of the challenges here, Iran wants to talk and they
21:12say they want peace. But President Trump says, we killed so many of their leaders.
21:16We're not even sure who's alive or who we're negotiating with.
21:20Cut 36. All of their leaders are dead, as far as we know.
21:25But they're all dead. We don't know who we're dealing with.
21:27We knocked out the first group.
21:29Then the second group met.
21:3188 met to pick the leader because the first group was all dead.
21:35And the second group got knocked out.
21:37They're all dead. Then the third group met.
21:39I would think they're a little nervous about meeting.
21:42I don't know if they're nervous.
21:43Maybe they're not. Maybe they're crazy.
21:45If they're not nervous, then they're crazy.
21:46But with... We met with the next group, but we don't know who their leader
21:52is. We have people wanting to negotiate.
21:55We have no idea who they are.
21:59And then, so again, we have no idea who the leader is.
22:02We don't know who we're negotiating with.
22:03I did think this was interesting, Buck, and we were talking about this a little
22:07bit off the air. President Trump won't say which president he talked to, former president,
22:14although we'll tell you who our guesses are here in a moment.
22:17But he said, I wish I had done it.
22:20Here is cut 37. Every president knew.
22:23I've spoken to a certain president who I like, actually, a past president, former president.
22:28He said, I wish I did it.
22:30I wish I did. But they didn't do it.
22:32I'm doing it. Yeah. I can't tell you this.
22:36I don't want to embarrass him.
22:38It would be very bad for his career, even though he's got no career left.
22:42Okay. Okay. Certain president who he likes that says, I wish I had done it.
22:48Buck, Bill Clinton. It feels to me, if you listened, I don't know if we
22:53played that. Maybe we can go grab it.
22:55Bill Clinton in his Epstein deposition said, as far as I know, President Trump never
23:00did anything wrong. Can we go grab that?
23:03I know it was in the roster, producer Greg, if you can grab that, because
23:06I don't think we ever played it.
23:08But I meant to have us play it, because President Trump has been actually fairly
23:14complimentary of President Clinton. They used to play golf a lot.
23:17I don't think it's Biden, because certainly Trump does not seem to be very fond
23:21of Biden. I don't think it's Obama, because I don't think Trump and Obama would
23:25talk. Look, George W. Bush is the only other former president this could be, but
23:30it doesn't seem like President Trump and George W.
23:34Bush have much of a positive relationship.
23:36So would you agree with me if you were assessing who the conversation was with,
23:41that by far it would be Bill Clinton?
23:43Yeah, I think if you put Bill Clinton and Donald Trump in a room right
23:47now, I think they'd bro it out for an hour and are laughing and having
23:50a good time. I don't think that Trump has any animosity toward Bill Clinton at
23:55all. I can't think of Bill Clinton taking any meaningful shots at Trump publicly either.
24:00I do not think that Donald Trump likes Barack Obama.
24:03I do not think that they would have this kind of offline conversation.
24:06I could not see that.
24:08So, yeah, I would say it's probably.
24:11I mean, the only other one I think it could be is George W.
24:14Bush, right? And there's never really been any indication that Trump and George W.
24:18Bush have much of a relationship at all.
24:20So I think of the former presidents, Clinton would be the one that he has
24:24the best relationship with by far.
24:26Well, what he's speaking to here as well is when he says a former president
24:31who says, I wish I could have done this too.
24:33The Iranian regime has just been causing problems and not like trade problems.
24:39I mean, you know, the Iranians, they directed, you know, via Hezbollah as a proxy,
24:46they'll direct terrorist attacks all over the world.
24:48There was a horrific attack at the Jewish center in Buenos Aires.
24:51I've actually been to that Jewish center and been there for a ceremony commemorating this
24:56down in Argentina. Just how horrible this attack.
25:00You wouldn't think that, you know, Middle Eastern terrorist groups would be reaching deep into
25:05Argentina at some. But they did.
25:09So this is the reality, I think, Clay, is Trump just lost patience with this
25:14nonsense. I think he realized that there was no world in which the Iranians were
25:18going to meaningfully agree to verifiable denuclear weaponization.
25:26And everything and it was all just chirping and chat.
25:30You know what I mean?
25:30It was all nonsense and all this talk and all the negotiations.
25:35Trump, I think, and his team are approaching them in good faith.
25:38And they just the more they deal with the Iranians, the more they feel like
25:41you're just you're just constantly playing games and lying.
25:44And he said, enough is enough.
25:46And I think that there are a lot of people that after especially many of
25:50you listen to this, you know what I'm talking about in Iraq.
25:52It was Iranians working through the Shia militias, which were just essentially armed, tripped and
25:58equate and armed, trained and equipped factions of the Iranians in Iraq.
26:07They were blowing up Americans just to kill Americans, maiming them, killing with these EFPs.
26:13I've talked about the explosively formed penetrators.
26:15The Iranians came up with a an explosive that was specifically designed to penetrate the
26:22holes of American armored vehicles, because after all the E IEDs, our vehicles got up
26:27armored. But these EFPs could punch through almost anything.
26:30And they did this just to kill Americans.
26:32They weren't going to take over in Iraq.
26:34You know, they weren't going to invade themselves.
26:37So they kind of took over via proxy.
26:40But people got pissed off about this and Trump was pissed off about it.
26:44And I get it. So part of this also is just we're sick of the
26:47Iranians thinking that they can do this stuff.
26:49But I'll just remind everyone they stay in charge.
26:52They're not going to forget about this.
26:53So it's not like the problem is solved just by we keep hearing defang.
26:58I've used the phrase myself.
26:59The fangs are going to grow back if the same people are in charge here.
27:03By the way, we didn't play this.
27:05Bill Clinton was deposed in the Epstein -related investigations.
27:11And here is what he said about President Trump.
27:14He goes out of his way.
27:15He goes out of his way.
27:15not even directly asked this, I think, in a Democrat line of questioning to say,
27:21hey, I never saw anything that would suggest Trump was engaged in any kind of
27:25illegality. Listen. He never, the president, never, this is 20 -something years ago, never said
27:33anything to me to make me think he was involved in anything and proper with
27:37regard to Epstein either. He just didn't.
27:42That's the truth. You know, as I said earlier, the only conversation I had with
27:47President Trump about this was in the early 2000s, and I have no information that
27:54he did anything wrong. I just want it all out there.
27:58I want everybody to get it all out there and let everybody see where we
28:01are. I just thought that was interesting in the prelude to that.
28:06Clinton said, hey, you're not asking me specifically about this, but he just put it
28:10out there, which makes me think, and I know they played golf together before, again,
28:16presuming President Trump is being honest about this, and I think he probably is.
28:20I think he probably does talk to Bill Clinton every now and then.
28:23I think he liked Bill Clinton.
28:25It also ties in, Buck, with, I think Bill Clinton, if you go back in
28:30time, would say, not having taken out North Korea's nuclear abilities is one of his
28:35regrets from when he was president.
28:37I think he said that publicly, and I know that we've made that analogy.
28:44Certainly, I have, that this is the modern -day equivalent of taking out the nuclear
28:49opportunity before it arises, and so I think they probably have talked about this.
28:54So I would be very surprised if he's not talking about Bill Clinton.
28:58Yeah, I think that's probably the case.
29:01Now we have to see where all of this goes and how long this continues
29:05on, and we haven't really discussed it, Clay, but there is something of a fracture
29:09in the MAGA world right now where there are a lot of very ardent Trump
29:16supporters who are really, really upset about this operation in Iran.
29:23I think that they will stop being so upset about it when the operation ceases,
29:27which I believe will be soon.
29:29But, you know, this is causing, in an election year, now we're early in the
29:33election year, but this is definitely causing a bit of static on our own side.
29:37And I think that people have started to lose sight a little bit, and this
29:41is true in a whole range of ways, of what a danger the Democrats are,
29:46how much suffering, how much waste, how much fraud, how much misery, how much crime,
29:54how much good on this.
29:55If Democrats take back power, we will all have to suffer through.
29:59And I think that will be a unifying thing as it gets closer.
30:02I would hope it's a unifying thing to recognize the Democrat Party of 2024 that
30:08was soundly defeated is the exact same Democrat Party now, except they're even more, you
30:15know, outraged, angry, and emotionally unstable.
30:19And they are thinking that as soon as Trump is no longer leading, they'll have
30:24an opportunity. So that's part of this, too.
30:27So I'm just saying, I know there are voices out there who are very upset
30:30at Trump about this, who are Trump supporters.
30:32I don't care about the, I hate Trump, even if he cures cancer people, because
30:36they're irrelevant. I mean, there's nothing to do for them.
30:40But I do think we have to keep an eye on how long this goes,
30:42because you want people to show up in the midterms and prevent Trump from being
30:47completely stymied by a Democrat -controlled House, which is certainly a high concern.
30:52I have high concern about it.
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32:14Welcome back in. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
32:17Okay, Buck, this is real.
32:18Like I said, and not spectacular for those of you out there that are Seinfeld
32:23fans. These are the real rules.
32:26In order to compete for best picture, all films must now meet the diversity and
32:33inclusion quota to be nominated.
32:36There are, these are the requirements, Buck, a lead or significant supporting...
32:43must be from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
32:48At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented
32:55racial or ethnic group, including Black, East Asian, Hispanic, Indigenous Peoples, Middle Eastern, North African,
33:07Pacific Islander, South Asian, including Bangladeshi, Bhutanese, Indian, Nepali, Pakistani, and Sri Lankan, Southeast Asian,
33:18including Burmese, Cambodian, Filipino, Hamong, Indonesian, Laotian, some of these I'm not even that familiar
33:26with, candidly, Malaysian, Mien, I don't know what that is, Singaporean, Thai, and Vietnamese.
33:33I think I deserve credit for not saying Thai.
33:36All right, that's one. This is one part.
33:38Second part, Buck. At least 30 % of all actors not submitted for Oscar consideration
33:46must be from at least two underrepresented groups, including women, racial or ethnic groups, LBGTQ
33:55+, people with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing.
34:02Now, there's a joke there because you could just be like, we'll just say that
34:05he's sub -IQ'd. And then another one, Buck, main storyline or subject matter.
34:13The main storyline theme or narrative of the group must be centered on an underrepresented
34:20group. Women, racial or ethnic group, LBGTQ +, people with cognitive or physical disabilities, or
34:27who are deaf or hard of hearing.
34:30So in order to qualify, you have to meet the diversity and inclusion guidelines to
34:39be considered for a movie.
34:41So for instance, I saw Jimmy Fallon tweet about this.
34:45In theory, The Godfather would not qualify, I don't believe, as a Best Picture nominee
34:54now, because my recollection of it is it's the story of an Italian family, obviously
34:59mobsters, but there's not a lot of diversity, equity, and inclusion in that film.
35:04I would imagine a movie like Braveheart or Gladiator would not qualify now for an
35:11Oscar. Like, you can go back through a lot of phenomenal movies that would no
35:16longer qualify to even be nominated.
35:19Titanic, I can't imagine, would qualify, really.
35:22It's kind of crazy to think about.
35:25Yes, in Braveheart, Edward Longshanks throws the gay lover of his son out the window
35:33summarily. I think that would be a big problem for the United States today.
35:38I think there would be issues that they would not, you know, be willing to
35:43overlook from movies that were celebrated as the best movies of our youth.
35:49There's a part of me that is actually just sad because movies were the dominant
35:53art form in America for really, I think, everyone listening right now.
35:59I mean, you can go back even into the 60s and say, you know, people
36:03would say music in the 60s, 70s maybe had the same kind of cultural resonance.
36:08The biggest movies in the 80s, 90s, and the early 2000s were the biggest cultural
36:12events that we had. It was bigger than any band.
36:14It was bigger than anything else.
36:16And it certainly had the most staying power, I think.
36:19And now it's just trash.
36:21They're just churning out trash all the time.
36:23And I think part of this is that once you've created some of these DEI,
36:27which really, it's race Marxism.
36:29And once the Academy and Hollywood in general put this race Marxism into place, it's
36:35very hard to get rid of because you have a lot of people now who
36:37have positions of authority that they were given because of skin color, LGBTQ status, whatever
36:44it may be, right? Gender identity.
36:46Do you think that they're ever going to say, you know what?
36:49We're kind of messing things up by creating these rules that privilege and empower people
36:55like me? No, of course not.
36:56So they're the ones calling the shots, and they're the ones that are going to
36:59say, that list you wrote off is insane.
37:03It's insane. And it also tells you on its face that this is not about
37:06the best movie. This is about the movie that the people that think that these
37:11rules, you know, the movies that the people that think about these rules want you
37:18to see and think is the best.
37:20Well, it's very, very thinly sliced on you.
37:23So think about this. Could you even could saving private Ryan be nominated?
37:29When I think about history movies, right, we make fun of the fact that you
37:33watch a Viking historical drama and suddenly there's a black female Viking and you're like,
37:40I, you know, leader, I don't think it was very historically accurate that the Vikings
37:46were led by black women.
37:48And then you see like the Shonda Rhimes of the world who make tons of
37:52money from Netflix. And they say, you know, race is such a cultural construct.
37:55And they make, I don't know, whatever it is, Pride and Prejudice.
37:58Was Bridgerton the thing that she watches?
38:00I don't make, I don't watch it now.
38:03But you basically couldn't nominate a show like that for inclusion.
38:10because it's set in England in the 17th, 18th century, whatever the heck it is.
38:16But, I mean, think about it just recently.
38:17Would you say Saving Private Ryan, whatever you think, is probably, what, one of the
38:23jewels of modern American cinema?
38:27If you consider just the entire concept of the movie from start to finish, the
38:32D -Day shots, everything else, it clearly wouldn't qualify for Best Picture.
38:37They would have to create a...
38:39Think about it. But almost none of the best pictures would qualify.
38:43I don't think any of them.
38:44I mean, if you go back and look through them, but anything that has a
38:47historical aspect, either they have to create a subplot that has nothing to do with
38:53the actual history, right? So you're like, and here's Saving Private Ryan, and now we're
38:57going to also tell the story of the Tuskegee Airmen, and we're going to weave
39:01somehow that into this story of D -Day.
39:05But, I mean, think about, like, Braveheart.
39:07They would just create black characters characters in Scotland, and they would have them in
39:13the movie so that they could qualify for Oscars, right?
39:17I mean, any movie that's made...
39:18I just watched Napoleon. Any movie that's made that actually features white guys and any
39:25military drama, for instance, of the last thousand years basically couldn't be made and compete
39:32for an Oscar now without a created subplot that involves a gay -lesbian angle or
39:40a black subplot or a female subplot.
39:44I mean, maybe you could say, oh, we're going to make Josephine the star of
39:47the Napoleon drama so that it qualifies and she's going to have 30 % lines.
39:52This is awful. It destroys great art by making you check boxes as opposed to
39:59just make a great film.
40:00The Godfather is a perfect example because it's probably the greatest film that's ever been
40:03made. I mean, it's up there.
40:05It used to be the case that the Best Picture nominees and also just in
40:08general the movies that would get a lot of acclaim were also the movies that
40:12everybody saw and a lot of people loved.
40:14Now, that's not universally the case, or it's not 100%, but movies that people love
40:19would get nominated for stuff.
40:21Didn't Gladiator win Best Picture?
40:23Oh, yeah. Yeah, Gladiator won Best Picture.
40:25Titanic won Best Picture. Did Braveheart win?
40:28Yes, Braveheart 100%. Braveheart won Best Picture and Best Director.
40:32So, Mel Gibson. Did Saving Private Ryan win?
40:36I mean, no. No, Shakespeare in Love, I think, beat Saving Private Ryan that year.
40:41Well, that's a win. I remember this.
40:42It was a Weinstein -Miramax film.
40:45Well, Harvey Weinstein never did anything wrong.
40:48We all know that. So, we had...
40:52Hollywood's favorite. Well, everybody who lectures you about morality, they loved Harvey Weinstein.
40:59It's astonishing to see how far it's fallen, though, where now it's like they're celebrating
41:05weird arthouse films and trying to get everybody to act like they're so great, and
41:09they're just not... When people say, like, what makes a movie good, is it really
41:13entertaining? Are you sitting there and the time is flying by because you're really into
41:17the story? I mean, I think that's one of the first ways you can know.
41:19I mean, the movie Sinners is just...
41:21It's a rip -off of From Dusk Till Dawn, which is a movie that is
41:27probably best seen after drinking a 40 of Old English or smoking something when you're
41:33in college. Okay? From Dusk Till Dawn is not a great movie.
41:37It has its entertaining moments, and it is among the best...
41:40Thank you, Selma Hayek, for dancing with the python back in the day.
41:43I knew Clay was going to come in with a Selma Hayek there.
41:45I just knew it. That's one of the great scenes in film history, I'll just
41:49point out. Selma was... Selma did very well for herself.
41:53So... But this is... You look at Sinners and the plot.
41:57You just read the plot.
41:58You're like, this is stupid.
41:59This is a stupid plot.
42:00It's not a good movie.
42:02I haven't seen it. I love that you hate Sinners this much.
42:04I haven't seen it at all.
42:06You know that there's now memes about people that feel like they have to tell
42:09you how much they hate Sinners?
42:10Like, this is a thing now.
42:11You know? Because it's not enough to just be like, it's a bad movie.
42:15Like, they want to tell everybody.
42:16But yeah, I'm somebody who wants to tell everybody.
42:17It's a terrible movie. That's the great line for Succession.
42:20Do you remember when they're in that party, and they're like, what kind of party
42:23is this? And he was like, it's a party where you can tell everybody that
42:26you actually think that Hamilton was awful.
42:28Hamilton is bad? Yeah. That totally resonated with me, because I was kind of a
42:34holdout. There were people who were right of center who were like, I think Hamilton's
42:39really good. And I was like, you're just part of the mob, part of the
42:43herd on this one. It is absolutely not.
42:45Hamilton is trash. It is garbage start to finish.
42:48There is no reason for you to pretend that you like this.
42:50I know it's the most successful financially musical of all time.
42:53I don't care. Is that true?
42:55Yes. No way. Yes. It's not more successful than Cats and Les Mis.
43:00Check it out, team. There's no way that's true.
43:02Those are just way long.
43:04I know nothing about musicals.
43:06I just don't think it's old enough.
43:08Clay, people were charging like $1 ,000 a ticket for years to go to see
43:12Hamilton. And that was just like basic tickets.
43:14It was crazy. It was a total, it was like paying penance for all of
43:20America's historic and racial wrongs.
43:23You had to pay like a mortgage payment to go see Hamilton to be a
43:26good person. I went and saw it.
43:27I thought it was okay.
43:28But I like history. And I was, I just, I still think a country and
43:33Western version of the Obama administration played by white actors to prove.
43:38how race doesn't matter would actually just kill um and uh i would love to
43:43see the reaction we're going to do a country and western version of obama and
43:47uh we've got white uh men and women playing barack because race is a cultural
43:51let you redeem yourself here i'm gonna let you redeem yourself what's better scream seven
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45:39sexton find them on the free iheart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts
45:44welcome back into clay and buck so we are talking about the iran situation here
45:50and everything going on around it uh and it looks like this war is going
45:55to continue on for at least some weeks ahead we've also got a lot of
45:59your talkbacks your thoughts your latest for all of us uh which we want to
46:04get to for sure um do we still let me see if we still have
46:08here we go uh podcast listener oh wow this is not about iran clay did
46:15you have something you want to jump this is going to get unserious very fast
46:18here these talkbacks do you have serious analysis to offer up well i what did
46:23i uh tease i do want to mention before we have some some fun here
46:27this is awful and it's a story that i think should be getting more attention
46:31oh you're talking about this is a serious thing the uh yeah yeah the iranian
46:35women's soccer team uh refused to sing the national anthem in australia during a tournament
46:40that happened about the same time as our attacks on iran began uh the women
46:45were then threatened by their minders as unfortunately often occurs and seven of them i
46:53believe was the initial number were granted uh asylum in australia because they were terrified
47:00to go back home there are reports now that iran has been seizing the family
47:06members of these women and torturing them and the women have now for the most
47:13part all left australia and relinquished rescinded their asylum claims i believe uh team if
47:23you can make this i believe they're down to two people now who are left
47:27in australia two members of that team and everybody else has uh has decided to
47:34uh to return to iran even though obviously they are uh likely to face severe
47:40torture themselves and maybe even execution for some of them um on top of that
47:46buck uh no one the megan rapinos of the world all of the u .s
47:53women's soccer players who have lectured us about how awful trump is and how they
47:59won't go to the white house and how they don't want your support if you're
48:02a trump voter all of those things the megan rapinos and their crowd have said
48:06none of these women have said a world a word buck about these iranian women's
48:12soccer players and spoken up for basic human rights around the world or supported them
48:16in any way i just think it's very much worth considering uh when we look
48:22at the hypocrisy there of so many of these athletes when real danger is faced
48:29and when real courage is required by women's athletes they won't say a word and
48:35uh unfortunately these women we may not see some of them ever again uh because
48:40they may well be tortured or killed for having the bravery to actually do something
48:46to stand up for freedom uh it kind of ties in with your point earlier
48:51buck which is it's hard to be the guy or gal who stands up for
48:56a new regime when the regime and power still has the ability to kill you
49:00uh it it takes unbelievable courage and frankly a high tolerance for risk Not only
49:06for you, but for your family to rise up with the idea of overthrowing this
49:12government when the reality may be there might not be very many people following you.
49:16It is interesting, I think, as well, Clay, with this.
49:19And it's a really terrible story.
49:21It's important for people to know about this story.
49:24But the same voices who are so quick to criticize Trump and the U .S.
49:30for its actions in Iran have narrow word of criticism to share about the Iranian
49:38regime ever, really. Iran just gets to do what it wants, and a lot of
49:44people in the commentariat and in politics don't really have any problem with Iran.
49:51They can do whatever. They can sponsor as much terrorism as they want.
49:54They can persecute gays as much as they want.
50:01Whatever it is that they want to do.
50:02And they're allowed to do it.
50:04And they can be authoritarian, non -democratic state, no elections, nothing else.
50:11And you might say, oh, but what about all these other Arab countries in the
50:13region? Okay, yeah, but they're not causing problems for everybody else.
50:16So we take problems based on the order of importance and priority, I think.
50:22And that's how our focus should be distributed.
50:25They have nothing to say about these Iranian countries.
50:27They have no problem. I'm sorry, with these Iranian actions.
50:29They have no problem with it, or at least they don't feel the need to
50:33vocalize that. It's only America that they're willing to speak out against and trash.
50:37And I just think that goes to the unseriousness of so much of the anti
50:41-American commentariat in general. These are people who only find fault.
50:47It actually reminds me a lot of the anti -Israel commentary.
50:50They'll criticize Israel. They have nothing to say about Gaza being run by Hamas as
50:55a terrorist state for as long as it was, and what an awful place it
50:59is, and how in so many of these countries.
51:02You know, there's this perfect correlation with regimes that hate Israel and hate Jews and
51:09horrible, crappy countries that nobody wants to live in, really, and that have nothing but
51:13misery and despair as their primary day -to -day existence.
51:17There's a 100 % correlation.
51:19It's kind of amazing, isn't it?
51:21Yes. You look at the countries that hate Israel the most, and they're the crappiest
51:23places in many cases in the world.
51:26And the people who speak out against Israel, and you see this even in the
51:30United Nations, have nothing to say, not a word to say about tyranny and oppression
51:36and violence and disgusting behavior from Muslims who are running the show in Gaza or
51:43from Muslims who have been running Iran into the ground.
51:45I mean, Iran should be a really nice country.
51:49You ever notice something? Nobody wants to visit this place.
51:52It's not safe now, obviously, but I mean, in general.
51:55Like, no one wants to.
51:55Americans, we can't go to Iran.
51:57We can't see all the beautiful architecture and the history and eat the pistachios and
52:02buy the carpets. We can't do all this, which is just shameful.
52:05And really, very few people can and will do any of this because you cannot
52:09trust that government at all.
52:12They may decide to grab you to make an example of you because they're a
52:15fundamentally immoral regime, a fundamentally evil regime.
52:21And the people that have done all these things, they're not going to get better.
52:23They're not going to improve.
52:24And so finally, Trump, I think, makes the decision.
52:27We at least have to raise the cost of doing business for these maniacs.
52:31And I think that's a big part of why we're currently bombing their military into
52:36smithereens. And that's why ultimately this story might be that we just I think you
52:42use the mow the grass analogy where ultimately we destroy as much as we can.
52:47We leave and we say, hey, in five years, we may have to come back
52:51and do this again. And that's assuming that we don't get actually people rising up.
52:57OK, I mentioned that we would play a couple of cuts from the from the
53:00Oscars, Buck. This is Charitha Chandran, who I'm sure I mispronounced her name.
53:07She is an actor in Bridgerton.
53:10So this is perfect. I don't know what else she was in, but she was
53:14on the red carpet and they asked her why she was speaking out.
53:17And she said she's demanding a ceasefire in Gaza now.
53:23That happened six months ago.
53:26But she's maybe a little bit behind.
53:28This is Hollywood actress Charitha Chandran.
53:31Listen, cut 30. It's an artist for ceasefire pen.
53:34And what we are demanding is a ceasefire in Gaza.
53:38And I think that I am so blessed to have a platform.
53:42And this is the least I can do to use it.
53:45And like sometimes the news cycle is so fast and people move on.
53:50But the people in Gaza and the West Bank are still suffering.
53:53So, yeah, it's just bringing attention to that.
53:56Okay. Yeah. The ceasefire started six months ago.
54:00So, great job. You've done an incredible, phenomenal job of being on top of the
54:06news. But you just have to remember, I'd never heard of this person before.
54:10She's obviously an actress. The point of her saying these things has nothing to do
54:18with Gaza. You always have to remember this.
54:20This isn't true about libs, about leftists, about Democrats, and the global left in general.
54:25The causes are largely irrelevant.
54:28It's what taking the side of the cause says about them to their peers.
54:32Yes. So, so her... saying this you know you could say hey i'm here to
54:39save the dodo bird and someone could pull her side be like dodo bird's been
54:43extinct honey for like a hundred and something years doesn't matter she wants you to
54:47know she's an environmentally conscious person like the the stupidity the lack of geopolitical knowledge
54:53or even curiosity clay it's not a problem the whole point is your declaration of
54:59fealty to the thing to the current thing that people have to pretend they care
55:04about so that other people around them think they're a good person and that's all
55:10this really is and unfortunately this is very powerful the kind of thing that in
55:13manufactured delusion a great book you should all get by the way if you have
55:16not already new york times bestseller go get your copy but it's in there i
55:21um would love to have had a microphone or maybe just an audio transcript of
55:26some of the conversation she had with people as to your point they all said
55:30it's so great of you to use your platform to speak out against the war
55:34that's continuing in gaza because they also have no idea that there's been a ceasefire
55:37for six months but i did say we would play a nice thing from the
55:40oscars you may have seen this buck i saw it on social media a little
55:44bit ago uh best actress winner jesse buckley from hamnet that don't know who she
55:51is did not see this movie but she decided to use her acceptance speech to
55:55praise marriage and promote motherhood uh this was actually i'm told quite nice cut 22
56:01you fred i love you man i love you you're the most incredible dad you're
56:09my best friend and i want to have 20 000 more babies with you i
56:12do i do and isla my little girl who is eight months who has absolutely
56:18no idea what's going on and is probably dreaming of milk but this um is
56:23kind of a big deal and i love you and i love being your mom
56:26and i can't wait to discover life beside you it's mother's day in the uk
56:31today so i would like to dedicate this to the beautiful chaos of a mother's
56:41heart uh so very positive there i didn't know it was mother's day in the
56:48uk over the weekend happy mother's day to all the moms in the uk listening
56:52to us right now maybe there's two or three um but uh but i thought
56:56that was pretty great so uh we wanted to at least share a positive that
57:01did happen last night on the oscars get married and have kids um it's a
57:05good thing to do uh all right uh buck you've got us going into this
57:08break and then we've got some laughs for you a lot of very good talkbacks
57:12i've seen a preview uh and we'll have some fun with those but first buck
57:16take us away think about this 20 years ago in 2006 20 000 could buy
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