Hour 1 - Carrots and Sticks: Which Parent Are You?
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0:33T's and C's apply. Welcome in, everybody.
0:35Thursday edition of the Clay and Buck Show.
0:38Let's dive into this, shall we?
0:41We've got more on the Iran dealmaking negotiations underway.
0:45A ceasefire in fits and starts, fits and pieces, but more or less a ceasefire
0:52underway. And we'll tell you where all of that is going.
0:57I want to also get into some stories on the crime front here that are
1:01getting national attention. Fraud, which is also a crime.
1:05I meant violent crime, but fraud, a different kind of violation of law.
1:10And what's going on out in California?
1:12People need to know about this.
1:14I think we talk sometimes about overspending, and we talk about our massive welfare state.
1:20We have almost a socialist redistribution through fraud scheme underway in a whole bunch of
1:27states. Minneapolis got a lot of attention because of the predominantly Somali -American fraud that
1:34was occurring there. But California, they're starting to turn over the rocks there to see
1:39what's underneath. And oh my, is there a lot of fraud.
1:42Also, some Republicans trying to, while we're all very focused on Iran, get a little
1:48sneaky with their Dignity Act, it is called.
1:52I believe it even has a Spanish name that it is being promoted under.
1:57So we will discuss where that is.
2:00We'll be joined by Representative Brandon Gill of Texas on that one.
2:03Spoiler alert, Representative Gill does not want amnesty and does not want anyone getting sneaky
2:08with an amnesty bill by another name.
2:10We'll discuss that with him.
2:12And we'll talk to Steve Yates, our national security guru, on the latest situation here
2:19with the Iran negotiations. Clay, let's hear.
2:22J .D. Vance has been given this.
2:24Now, this is interesting to me on a few levels.
2:27We'll get into some of the specifics in some of these J .D.
2:29soundbites. As we know, in this New York Times article, which I do think that
2:35it's, I would put my money on it's accurate.
2:38I obviously don't know. But based on what the different characters are saying in the
2:43article and what I've heard from people that know the individuals involved and who have
2:47been in some of these conversations, it reads as true.
2:51And it's very clear that J .D.
2:53Vance was the least enthusiastic about the Iran air campaign, the Iran aerial war of
3:02anybody. And now he's been assigned the task of trying to spearhead this ceasefire negotiation
3:09and turn it into a truce, an armistice, a longstanding agreement of sorts that we're
3:15not going to have to do this anymore.
3:18So, Vance, first thing he's got to do here, Clay, is clean up some of
3:22what has been said already about this because it was looking pretty bleak yesterday with
3:28the 10 points. This is cut three.
3:29Here he is on the status of these negotiations.
3:31Play it. You have some crazy people at the fringes of the Iranian system who
3:36are leaking anonymously either for propaganda purposes or because they're embarrassed or because they don't
3:41like what happened. And the final point when I say they don't like what happened,
3:44what we know is that the United States accomplished its military objectives.
3:48What we know is the United States could have imposed significant additional military and economic
3:53costs on Iran and still has the capacity to do so.
3:56But we thankfully at this point, I think, have a ceasefire.
3:59Thanks to the leadership of the president of the United States, we have the Iranians
4:03promising to open the Straits of Hormuz and we have a negotiation that's supposed to
4:07start this weekend. That's the truth.
4:09I think it's a good first step.
4:10We're going to see if we can make more progress here in the days to
4:14come. How are you feeling about all this, Clay, today, the day after the big
4:18agreement came down? Look, I think it ultimately comes down to we will know, based
4:27on ship traffic in the Strait of Hormuz, how these negotiations are going.
4:33And that's what I said yesterday.
4:34So far, ship traffic does not seem to be anywhere near normal rates of ingress
4:41and egress. And until it is somewhat normal, I think it's hard to argue that
4:47things are normalized. Now, right before we came on, there was news that Israel is
4:54going to have direct talks with Lebanon and that, in theory, they may normalize relations.
5:00That seems like it would be a significant outcome here.
5:04Iran is saying that they expect the ceasefire to also encompass Lebanon.
5:11And that is an element of these negotiations.
5:14There are reports that Trump called Netanyahu and said, hey, we need to have some
5:20negotiations underway to stop the bombing in Lebanon as well.
5:24So we'll just see the more possible.
5:24And so, you know, I'm kind of in the trust but verify stage of what
5:30to believe on the ceasefire.
5:32And to me, then we will see when we see the traffic in the Strait
5:39of Hormuz. And I tweeted about this, but I do think one thing is maybe
5:44significant. I don't know if you would sign off on this either, but see what
5:48you think of this. One thing that is being reported is that Iran controls the
5:54Strait of Hormuz. Every article you see, particularly those that are negative in nature, they
5:59say, well, now Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz.
6:03What I would say is Iran has publicly announced basically that they are willing to
6:08enact terrorism that is blow up boats in the Strait of Hormuz.
6:14I would argue the use of the word control is inaccurate there.
6:18They are willing to engage in acts of terrorism.
6:21We could blow up. They can threaten it more than they can control it.
6:24Yes. We could blow up every boat in the entire Strait of Hormuz in probably
6:3010 minutes if we wanted to.
6:31So could other countries. We're not going to do that.
6:34And so I do think the argument of, well, they control things.
6:40Well, I mean, it's a terroristic threat, and I hope that it's not going to
6:44become a reality. But, again, as we talked about yesterday, I think you have to
6:47apply rational actor theory here, reasonable man theory, as we used to talk about back
6:53in the days in law school.
6:55If I owned a $100 million boat filled with oil right now, I'd be a
6:59little bit apprehensive about allowing that boat to go through the Strait of Hormuz.
7:04So until those individual boat owners and the corporations that run them and the CEOs
7:10that are in charge of them feel like their product and their boats are safe,
7:16then they're not going to move.
7:17And so that will be the test to me of how much is there actually
7:22a ceasefire that can be trusted going on.
7:24I think we'll know by the weekend.
7:27J .D. also making it very clear, this is cut five, that he feels like
7:33U .S. and Trump have all the cards here.
7:36And so this is a negotiation where we're going in with a couple of aces.
7:40I don't really play cards.
7:41That would be good. A couple of aces is usually good, right?
7:43Yes. Very good. Very good poker hand.
7:46Right. And they've got two of the two cards.
7:48Play five. This is one of the things that's going to be one of the
7:51main subjects of negotiation is that we want Iran to not be able to make
7:55a nuclear weapon. We want the nuclear fuel, which is something the president has made
7:59very clear. And again, the way to think about this is the United States has
8:03certain demands and certain things that we want.
8:05The Iranians have things they can get out of the negotiation.
8:08The more that they're willing to give us, I think the more they're going to
8:11get things out of this negotiation.
8:12The president's talked about sanctions relief.
8:14The president's talked about economic partnerships and things like that.
8:18That's not going to happen unless the Iranians make a firm commitment to stop anything
8:24close to the development of a nuclear weapon.
8:27And frankly, the president has all the cards here.
8:29We've got a lot of leverage.
8:30We've got a lot of things that we can do.
8:32But right now, I think that we're in a good spot.
8:34I think we have better cards.
8:36I don't think we have all the cards.
8:38I think that's a little bit more than where the situation is right now.
8:42But more or less, I think J .D.
8:44is on point with this.
8:46Do you think that J .D.
8:48having been opposed to these strikes and the Iranians now presumably having read the New
8:56York Times article like we did, which takes you into the deliberations about this decision,
9:03could that help? And second part here, I would say, I think the leak of
9:09the article actually helps Trump some because people are saying, and you and I know
9:13this is not true, but critics are saying, oh, he's a mad king, right?
9:17They're making like Game of Thrones analogies.
9:19You can't trust him. You have no idea what's going around.
9:21The article about the discussion surrounding what to do with Iran was actually Trump as
9:29board, basically board chair going around the room asking everybody for their opinions.
9:34Now, if you want to argue, well, people are afraid of saying what they really
9:40think once they know what Trump is likely to do, there's an element of that
9:44in all board room discussions.
9:48When you know what the CEO wants to do, there's a lot of people who
9:51can get themselves to justify it.
9:53But Iran knows that J .D.
9:56was not in favor of this action.
9:58To me, that seems like it could be helpful to him in relationships.
10:03Do you buy that? Do you think the Iranian negotiators knowing J .D.
10:08is not a hawk could actually make them more likely to deal with him?
10:13Or do you even think it matters who the American negotiators are?
10:15With J .D. and Trump on this issue, you have a built -in good cop,
10:20bad cop situation. They both want you to sign the confession.
10:24But J .D. is like, come on, buddy, help me out here.
10:27I'll get you a cup of coffee.
10:28Let's figure this out. Whereas Trump is like, let's take him out back, hit him
10:31with the truncheon. Show him who's boss.
10:34You know, very different approach to this.
10:36So, yes, I do think that there is a, you know, what is it?
10:40They used to say, plate y plomo, I think.
10:43A silver or lead in the cartels.
10:45You know, it's like take our money or carrots and sticks, carrots and sticks.
10:48That's an even better way to put this.
10:49Carrots and sticks is a good way.
10:50Another way is mom and dad.
10:51That it could be different.
10:52That it could be different.
10:52depending on the situation but trump is definitely daddy yeah but do you do you
10:57want me to have to tell my dad about this and by the way some
10:59of you out there are going to be like do you want me to have
11:01to tell mom about this because sometimes mom is the one that would that left
11:04will swing the sledgehammer harder uh when it comes to uh to kids i wonder
11:09when the day will come when my son realizes that like he really wants to
11:13deal with me oh he doesn't he doesn't want to escalate to carry laura is
11:17way tougher on the boys than i am um so it could be different depending
11:22on uh the the family dynamics and also by the way what the kid has
11:25done but i do think jd is the kinder gentler parent in this relationship and
11:32that he can actually say do you really want me to take this back to
11:35trump i mean i'm just telling you because ultimately it's trump's decision on what the
11:41terms of any deal are uh but i do think the fact that jd was
11:45skeptical of the uh of the uh action in the first place might help him
11:49as the good guy in this negotiation discussion i think the iranians are because it's
11:54public information i think they're savvy enough to know i think they're savvy enough to
11:58understand that jd he backs the president of course as his vice president but his
12:05heart isn't in more airstrikes like he doesn't want he really doesn't want that i
12:09feel like trump is trump attitude is more i'm giving you guys a chance here
12:14if i have to slap you around iran i'll do it again but i really
12:17would rather not but jd is like look we really don't want to have to
12:21use force again let's actually get something workable for the big guy meaning trump and
12:26then we can all move forward and things can get better here uh so jd
12:30is a perfect person to be involved in this and it's also bringing him into
12:34it in a way where he doesn't have to he's not being false to himself
12:37at all on this you know what i'm saying he's getting a chance to end
12:41the war that he didn't want in the first place that's right and i think
12:44that's a strong place for him to be in and i think that trump uh
12:47it makes a lot of sense for him um i i look i'm hopeful too
12:51i i'm going to say this to all of you i don't really want to
12:53be talking about iran i'm we're going to talk about some things here at home
12:57today on the show too i'm going to make us get into some things that
12:59aren't iran related because we got to fix here in america and i know it's
13:04all the midterms the midterms yeah but it's also the promise of trump's second term
13:07it's we got to fix things here at home so the sooner we can get
13:11this buttoned up with iran and agreed to in some way now i've said and
13:16i don't i haven't changed my mind i think they're going to agree to agree
13:19to agree in the future so i think it's going to go two weeks and
13:23then and then we're going to continue the ceasefire and then we're going to talk
13:25through the summer and you know there might be that's what i think is going
13:29to happen here i don't think this is going to be a quick fix um
13:31we'll see i would like i said clay i'd love to be wrong on this
13:35one i'd love happy clay to to be correct and e or buck to be
13:41wrong on this one i will say and you you know i love watching the
13:45markets um s &p 500 and the dow are both reacting very positively so far
13:52now you can say there was a sell -off before but they're both rapidly approaching
13:57all -time highs um and so uh we will see how exactly that ends up
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15:57apply welcome back in uh clay travis buck sexton show uh stock market uh roaring
16:03and we mentioned this and i do think you may say why in the world
16:07should i care what in the world is going to happen in lebanon um and
16:11i get it um but if there were normalized relations there and this is a
16:17quote from benjamin netanyahu uh that has you to do with why the stock market
16:21has popped, because there does seem to be some fear associated with how these things
16:27could play themselves out. Benjamin Netanyahu essentially saying, this is according to Barack Ravid, who
16:35is a correspondent for Axios, that he appreciates, he instructed yesterday, direct negotiations with Lebanon
16:45as soon as possible. The negotiations will focus on disarming Hezbollah and establishing peaceful relations
16:51between Israel and Lebanon. Israel appreciates the Lebanese prime minister's call today to demilitarize Beirut.
16:59And so, again, stock market up on this.
17:03I would like to be right.
17:05I suspect, Buck, that we are going to have a lot of crazy ups and
17:10downs. And for the people out there that are trading oil and gas or trading
17:13in the stock market, from one moment to the next, you are basically following in
17:19real time the news to try to assess the likelihood of a ceasefire working and
17:23or a overall decline in the amount of violence that's taking place in the Middle
17:27East. Look, it's we're in a much better place now than we were even a
17:32few days ago and a much more hopeful place, I think.
17:36So that's good. And we want to get bring the focus back home.
17:41And the Republicans, both that would be the right thing to do and the smart
17:46thing to do for the Trump administration.
17:48Bring the focus back home here.
17:51Now that things now that you're in a negotiation, you have successfully destroyed the Iranian
17:55Navy, the Iranian Air Force, most of their surface to air missile technology, a lot
17:59of their nuclear stuff. OK, we've we've hit them hard.
18:03Let's negotiate and let's figure out how to get things going back here at home.
18:06That's that's the key, I think, because, guys, these lunatic Democrats, you mean, I can't
18:13even begin to prepare you for how crazy they're going to be if they take
18:16the House and if they take the House in the Senate, it's going to be
18:18even worse. So we have to start thinking about this.
18:22One bit of news. We said we would update you.
18:25You'd be able to tell how the ceasefire is going based on whether oil tankers
18:29are coming through or not.
18:31We'll play this audio for you.
18:33But a second oil tanker has now passed through.
18:37So since the ceasefire started, I mean, this is where we are, Buck.
18:41We're counting each oil tanker that's allowed through.
18:44But that report also has, I think, provided some positivity because there are now oil
18:50tankers coming. Can you imagine you're finally out of missile range of Iran and you're
18:55on that oil tanker? I'd be popping some champagne.
18:57I was going to say, probably a pretty good alcoholic beverage is justified at that
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20:00I want to move to the domestic front.
20:03But first up, there's something I have to check in with Clay on.
20:07Mike Pence, who you all recall, is I think the one guest that I can
20:13remember we've had on this program in our almost now five years.
20:16It'll be five years in June.
20:18Mike Pence is the one guest I can remember who I think got Clay's goat
20:22could be the, is that the way you would say it, got you frustrated, got
20:26you annoyed with his refusal to answer the question.
20:30Which was a pretty significant question.
20:32I was shocked that he wouldn't answer it, to be fair.
20:35I mean, it was clear he just wouldn't answer it.
20:36When they were trying to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life,
20:39I think if you were the president and Trump was in prison for the rest
20:44of his life, would you give him a pardon?
20:48Like, my answer was yes.
20:49Regardless of who had won, I don't think that was a good precedent.
20:53And if you had been Trump's vice president, I think it's a no -brainer.
20:57And he wouldn't answer it.
20:58And so I am still, I think in many ways it kind of torpedoed.
21:02Because his entire campaign was, I'm the truth teller.
21:06I'm the guy who will make hard decisions.
21:09And he kept saying, well, that's a hypothetical.
21:12And I, look, the entire exercise of running for president is a hypothetical.
21:18You tell us what you would do if you were in office.
21:22We don't know if you'll ever be in office.
21:24But that's the entire purpose of a campaign.
21:26So I'm not going to tell you that's a hypothetical really kind of got me
21:30fired up. What did he do now?
21:31I haven't even seen this.
21:32Well, I just wonder if this changes your view at all about Trump's actions in
21:36Iran. Mike Pence, big fan, huge fan of the Iran war.
21:42This is cut nine. There was a lot of talk about five weeks ago about
21:45America starting a war. This war started.
21:4747 years ago and iran has been waging war on america on our most cherished
21:53ally israel during those five decades and i give president trump all the credit in
21:58the world for pulling the trigger last year with operation midnight hammer going directly at
22:02their nuclear facilities and then making the decision to unleash our armed forces finally directly
22:08against the mullahs in tehran who've been claiming american lives israeli lives using proxies across
22:14the region to wage war now we've taken the fight to them it's been a
22:17brilliant campaign operation epic fury every american uh should be proud clade is this does
22:24this uh is this is this the proverbial broken clock look he's right on this
22:30one i mean i look and let me just say this too i don't think
22:34everyone should agree with everything that any political figure does all the time because sometimes
22:40politicians make poor decisions um and uh we talked about this with president trump in
22:46the way that his team handled the pam bondi and the epstein files like i
22:51think they created a series of unforced errors there that did not help the administration
22:57i think it's the biggest screw up of the first year and a half of
23:01trump 2 .0 um but i don't think you're doing a good job of talking
23:05about news if you're always of the opinion um hey this is a hundred percent
23:11um the uh the right choice i do think by and large that the trump
23:16team has made the right choices and i think mike pence on this issue is
23:20is right i would agree with him um and it by the way it still
23:24remains to be seen buck uh as we talked about yesterday there's a lot of
23:28things that could or could not occur that can make this either look like a
23:32really smart move or a really dumb move um as this all plays out but
23:37i think if you look at the markets again stock markets near record highs again
23:41they've earned back most of the decline that occurred during this last month already um
23:47and uh i hope that oil and gas prices are going to come back down
23:51and to your point this election this midterm is going to be a referendum on
23:58do people think things are better in their life or not and is the economy
24:02working in a way that your average american voter believes that there should be an
24:06endorsement of the trump team my concern is that that answer right now is going
24:12to be for a lot of people no and that's going to tamp down turnout
24:16and the house and the senate are in danger and now is the time to
24:20pivot to domestic issues i think as we start to come into the summer and
24:24start to talk about the fall and with that i'm going to pivot us into
24:27some domestic issues there you go it's uh it's smooth smooth as silk there you
24:33see that everybody mom donnie we haven't talked about him a little bit in new
24:37york we got a few things we got new york and california talk to hit
24:39us here mom donnie the commie he is out there this is important i think
24:44clay not just about the conversation with regard to our larger city new york or
24:49wor listeners in the new york area it's important because it shows you the mindset
24:54i was talking about before these commies once they get back they're a little quiet
24:57right now i mean never really quiet you know the purple hair the nose rings
25:01the constant looks of sadness on their faces but they're they're not making as much
25:06noise as they normally do they're going to come back and it's going to be
25:09very uncomfortable uh and bad for america and they haven't changed on anything you have
25:15to remember this would trump won but these issues are not done in fact if
25:19anything i i believe they're going to double down a lot of this including things
25:22like racial equity and dei like right now trump has been running the table his
25:27whole administration on rooting out unconstitutional illegal dei practices but they're going to keep doing
25:35this wherever they can however they can here is uh mom donnie in new york
25:40talking about how he's like ignoring that there's even any precedent or supreme court ruling
25:44on this he's just talking about how they're going to have a racial equity plan
25:48giving certain resources to black and brown people play 19 while today's true cost of
25:54living measure confirms that the affordability crisis touches every corner of our city we know
25:59that these effects are not applied evenly so often it is black and brown new
26:04yorkers who are hit the hardest this preliminary racial equity plan is the first step
26:09in developing a whole of government approach to tackling that reality it is a plan
26:15that lays out these first steps to solve decades of neglect and discrimination and it
26:20places the work of 45 city agencies within a singular framework this is what they're
26:27going to be saying clay they're going to be discriminating in favor of black and
26:32brown people and their claim will be but we're fixing discrimination against those black and
26:37brown people so you know the cycle just keeps going over and over again and
26:41we're going to have to keep fighting this out in the courts you're going to
26:43see this making a huge comeback i think if democrats take back the house or
26:47just democrats in general are going to be making a lot of noise about it
26:51it's illegal and this is where i think while trump's team is in office they
26:57need to tamp out as much of this as they possibly can we have a
27:01big supreme court decision that no one is talking we talked about birthright citizenship and
27:07what we think is going to happen there and that's a huge story and all
27:11of these things matter what i believe is going to turn into to maybe the
27:16most consequential decision from this term, I expect for the Supreme Court to end racial
27:23gerrymandering. And if the Supreme Court ends racial gerrymandering, it is going to cut the
27:29legs out of a lot of the ideas behind what Mamdani is doing here, which
27:34is a race -based form of communism, identity politics, as a defining characteristics of everything.
27:41If the Supreme Court does, as I anticipate that it will do, and says racial
27:46gerrymandering is no longer legal, then Democrats are not going to have the ability to
27:52cut and splice all these different jurisdictions together that have nothing in common other than
27:59the race of the people who live there.
28:01The other thing that I think is significant here, Buck, and this is a long
28:05-range plan, racial voting is collapsing.
28:09Now, is it still way too common?
28:12Yes. But the 2024 President Trump election was the most racially diverse winning Republican candidate
28:23platform in the history of the modern Republican Party.
28:27That is, more Hispanic people.
28:29Trump won a majority of Hispanic male voters.
28:31I think that was a shockwave.
28:33He won a huge percentage of Hispanic female voters.
28:36The only group that Kamala Harris increased support from, white women.
28:40Think about how crazy that is.
28:42Liberal white women destroying civilization, one complaint to the manager at a time.
28:48But this is 100 % true.
28:50Isn't that kind of wild?
28:51It does not get very much attention.
28:52The only group Kamala Harris did better with in 2024 than Joe Biden in 2020
28:59was white women. And, by the way, white women still majority voted Trump, but they
29:03moved more so towards Kamala Harris than any group out there.
29:08Every other group moved more towards Trump in 2024.
29:12Here is more of Mamdani's equity plan for New York.
29:16This is Cut20. He's talking about wealth disparities by race.
29:20Play it. In this report, what we've seen, it's a report that is both coupled
29:24with a true cost of living report, is that the inequities in this city, the
29:29racial inequities are stark. We are talking about findings that have shown that the wealth
29:34of a median white household in the city is more than $200 ,000, while that
29:38of a black household is less than $20 ,000.
29:41This is not an indictment of any one New Yorker.
29:43It is an indictment, however, of policies and politics that have persisted for far too
29:48long. We are reckoning with the long history of racism here and starting to act
29:53upon a framework that puts equity right at the center of it.
29:57Okay. One thing, equity is the religion of the left.
30:00Don't forget it. DEI, they haven't abandoned it.
30:02They're not moving off of it.
30:03They're going to try to jam this down your throats wherever they can, and they're
30:06going to try to do it federally.
30:07And they have their eye on the court and changing the Supreme Court's makeup down
30:10the line. So all that stuff, this fight is very much still underway.
30:13But, Clay, we at least now can have conversations like, okay, what is the city?
30:18He's basically saying it's the system that's done this.
30:21How? What aspect of the system of the city of New York and its governance
30:26is creating this disparity in wealth?
30:30Because I can tell you the per capita poorest by income group in New York
30:37City is actually Asians. Or, I'm sorry, the most, I should say the most, the
30:42highest poverty number, that's actually what the status, the highest percentage of an ethnic group
30:47in poverty are Asian in New York.
30:49Which is very surprising. Now, here's the thing.
30:51Asian includes Bangladeshi, Pakistan. There's a lot.
30:55Asia is a very big place.
30:57The point is it's essentially non -white, non -black, non -Hispanic, all grouped into one,
31:03because Taiwanese and Korean are obviously very high income, right?
31:08So that's, to be clear, there's a little bit of nuance in this data.
31:11But my point is that the greatest number of people in New York who are
31:15poor are not black as a percentage of the overall population.
31:20So what's causing this? Like, if he's going to talk about it, you have a
31:24massive welfare state in New York City.
31:2620 % of New Yorkers are in some form of subsidized or basically free housing.
31:31Talking to New York City, you have an enormous welfare state.
31:35And we're going to talk about all the fraud, by the way, that's redistributing wealth
31:37to certain communities en masse.
31:40But what is it that, why do Democrats think they can continue to have this
31:45thing of, well, we have differences in groups and the system is making this happen,
31:51so we have to now start privileging some groups at the expense of others via
31:55the system. Where is the racism he's talking about?
31:58Where is the racism in the system?
32:02I want to know. I want them to show me.
32:04Find me the law. Find me the statute, the prohibition, the whatever that hurts one
32:09racial group that is black or brown and privileges others.
32:14If you have been born in this country since 1980, a huge majority of the
32:20country has been born, believe it or not, since 1980.
32:24So if you were born in 1980, you are going to turn 46 years old
32:28this year. You have never experienced any discrimination in your life if you are a
32:34minority. It just, it hasn't existed by the state.
32:38It does not exist. In fact, the opposite is true.
32:41The state has actually. The state has actually.
32:43discriminated in your favor and if you go back and look at all of the
32:47data that is out there um you know what is undeniably true we need to
32:53get the quotes from hakeem jeffries because he went after pete hegseth and he to
32:57your point buck did a big defense of dei and how it's a great thing
33:01and i putting someone who is incapable of doing a job as well as someone
33:07else in a position of authority whether it's over an airplane whether it's over a
33:12regiment in the military whether it's over a part of a company is actually destructive
33:17to the overall country in all respects and i've made this argument for a long
33:22time buck dei is a luxury of incredibly successful companies when basically they're saying management
33:28doesn't matter right google back in the day google made so much money off search
33:33that they could put anybody in any position and the brand of google and the
33:38company itself was so successful that it didn't even matter who was in charge remember
33:43they were sitting around this happened on wall street too by the way all of
33:46a sudden back all everyone in the back office was you know uh like an
33:50african immigrant who went to harvard or something and you're like wait but why aren't
33:54they running why aren't they running investment banking right because they were hiring but they
34:00were hiring only for the purposes of the lookbook so to speak they're hiring for
34:05the diversity staff they weren't actually putting them in positions of authority yeah and by
34:10the way remember they were sitting around debating politics all day on google internal chat
34:15forums if you have time at your job to debate larger political issues in forums
34:22all day you need more work to do right i mean this was just a
34:26sign of how good google's business that the luxury of all this stuff could even
34:30happen we forgot this or rather we don't talk about it as much look at
34:34twitter everyone said oh my gosh elon is gonna now it's x but elon is
34:38gonna gut this place it'll never it's better than it ever was it has 10
34:43of the staff that he actually the thing that we always say 90 of the
34:48people are worthless 10 of the people do 90 of the work which is true
34:51unfortunately a lot of government jobs a lot of places it was absolutely true twitter
34:55was a social justice organization by the time elon got to it it was a
35:00social justice organization as in like a left -wing race communist ngo that happened to
35:07have a massive cash cow of a uh you know internet platform that could suckle
35:13off of that was it yeah that was what that company had become and it's
35:18amazing that this is all but it's so successful they didn't build the social justice
35:21warriors don't build this place that they're the locusts that show up once the harvest
35:26has already been uh you know has already grown and is ready to be plucked
35:31and any of you that have run companies know the biggest threat to you often
35:35is not external competition it's the internal culture that you create it's a reality you
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37:38country and big stories surrounding them when we come back but i wanted to hit
37:42you with this and i'll reinforce it when we come back on this as well
37:45buck you live in florida now you were born in new york city florida governor
37:49ron de santis shared this uh recently the numbers tell the tell um right now
37:57new york city's budget is 127 billion population new york city 8 .4 million thereabouts
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