Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Mar 10 2026
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0:33T's and C's apply. Welcome, everybody, to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and
0:37Buck Sexton show. Strap in, because we are taking off.
0:42We have a lot to discuss with you today.
0:44Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan is going to be joining us bottom of this hour.
0:48Michael Watley, former RNC chair and North Carolina Senate candidate, joining in the second hour,
0:54along with our friend Shannon Bream, chief legal correspondent at Fox News.
0:58She's got a new book out.
1:00We'll be talking to those fine folks, and we will also be breaking down all
1:03of the latest news and analysis and important goings -on for all of you.
1:10Big story still. Big guest story, I should say.
1:14The ongoing airstrikes against the Iranian regime.
1:18Also, some jitters people are having around the price of oil.
1:24So we're going to address all of this.
1:26Here is Secretary of War Hegseth at a press conference this morning, promising everyone that
1:32we're just getting warmed up with all this stuff.
1:35It's going to get even more intense.
1:37Play three. Today will be, yet again, our most intense day of strikes inside Iran.
1:43The most fighters, the most bombers, the most strikes.
1:47Intelligence more refined and better than ever.
1:50So that's on one hand.
1:51On the other hand, the last 24 hours have seen Iran fire the lowest number
1:55of missiles they've been capable of firing yet.
1:58Just the bifurcation, just the trend lines that we talked about on our first briefing.
2:02You see, this is not 2003.
2:04This is not endless nation -building under those types of quagmires we saw under Bush
2:10or Obama. It's not even close.
2:11Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again, and nor will this president,
2:16who very clearly ran against those kinds of never -ending, nebulously scoped missions.
2:24So he is saying that everything is going according to plan.
2:29We are essentially kicking the Iranian military's ass with one arm behind our back from
2:34the sky entirely, and this is going to continue and get more intense as the
2:40days go on that we will not relent.
2:43Trump last night, speaking at Doral, he was down here in the Miami area, near
2:48where I am. Here he is.
2:50This is cut six. He's saying, look, we are making strides toward achieving what we
2:55need to in Iran. Play six.
2:57We're achieving major strides toward completing our military objective.
3:03And some people could say they're pretty well complete.
3:06We've wiped every single force in Iran out very completely.
3:12Most of Iran's naval power has been sunk.
3:17It's on the bottom of the sea.
3:19It's almost 50 ships. I was just notified it's 51 ships.
3:24I didn't know they had that many.
3:26Didn't last very long. And these are fighting vessels.
3:31They're meant to fight, but they're not meant to fight against us.
3:35We've struck over 5 ,000 targets to date, some of them very major targets.
3:40And we've left some of the most important targets for later in case we need
3:44to do it. If we hit them, it's going to take many years for them
3:47to be rebuilt, having to do with electricity production and many other things.
3:54So we're not looking to do that if we don't have to play.
3:59It seems like the strategy is bomb them back into the Stone Age, so to
4:03speak, and wait until they cry uncle and come up with.
4:08I don't know what that's the that's the big question that I have.
4:11What is supposed to emerge here, unconditional surrender, but contingent on what?
4:18Even if they were to say it, what are the next steps supposed to be?
4:21This gets to who's going to run this country?
4:24Because Pete Hegseth is saying very clearly, and Trump has said the same, we're not
4:28going to be sending 20 -year -olds from Kansas and Maine and Washington State, etc.,
4:33and Texas and everywhere to walk the streets of Isfahan, Kermanshah, Tehran, and Tabriz.
4:40Not happening. I think we're in a balancing act where who is the person we
4:46want to be in charge in Iran?
4:48That is the one thing that we really haven't gotten any indication of.
4:52Now, simultaneously, I understand that why that is, because as soon as the United States
4:58acquiesces or acknowledges that Iran has got a leader we want to work with, that
5:04definitely puts political pressure on the individuals in Iran, too.
5:09Do you remember, Buck, how the Delcy Rodriguez played out?
5:12Delcy Rodriguez, and the reason why I point to this is I think it's the
5:16best analogy, although obviously Venezuela and Iran are very different, but when Delcy Rodriguez came
5:21into power, she said a lot of tough talking.
5:24things about the united states and many of our united states leaders just kind of
5:30said okay she's got to say that for political viability inside of venezuela but meanwhile
5:36we were having back channel conversations with her and she was basically letting us know
5:41what she had to do are we having back channel conversations with anyone in iran
5:45that could rise to a level of power that's a good question right uh who
5:49are the people that israel may have been working with to help get all of
5:54these targets uh that we were able to focus on and take out so quickly
5:59all of those questions i think are still uh incumbent upon us to resolve but
6:06i do think at a minimum the message that we sent even if we pulled
6:11out tomorrow buck even if we said hey mission accomplished we are out and uh
6:16we are going back and we're not going to continue to bomb iran we have
6:19sent the message and i think it's a very significant one not only to iran
6:22but to everybody around the world that we can basically take out any world leader
6:26that we want to and so whomever comes to power in iran we can wipe
6:31that person out too they know it we know it the world knows it and
6:36so uh the question that i have is to what extent is there someone that
6:40we are amenable to that could be rising to power and what is the time
6:44frame under which that could occur um i think that that's the question that is
6:49still out there right now i think the argument that we were going to lose
6:53tons of soldiers is out the window i think the argument in the wake of
6:58the last day buck this is one of the craziest things i've ever said when
7:02we came on the air yesterday everybody was in a full -fledged panic over the
7:06price of oil and gas it hit 120 dollars um on the market on sunday
7:12before we came on the air they open overseas it's now 85 dollars now that's
7:18significant but it's not that much of a bump and the straight of four moves
7:23it appears the oil is actually coming through fairly comfortably we just haven't seen the
7:29spike that everybody said we were going to see and i think we have the
7:33ability to exit this uh escalation whenever we want and we have effectively neutered iran
7:41for decades to come in terms of the they have no air force they have
7:47no navy um they have no missiles largely their ability to even send off these
7:53drones has been significantly curtailed i just i look around buck and say we're at
7:59the who is going to lead iran stage of this military uh of this military
8:05endeavor the whole irgc which we talked about a bit yesterday is set up to
8:12be a decentralized and survivable security apparatus for a situation like this this is the
8:20challenge that we have uh so they've got the guns they've got comms set up
8:26they have down to a very localized level uh terrain knowledge human terrain knowledge basically
8:33anyone who walks out of their home to start a protest in the street liable
8:37to just get shot by these either besiege or or irgc uh units so what
8:45do we do about that this is the this is where things get a little
8:50open -ended i'm not really sure what the plan is on this uh we can
8:54keep blowing their military equipment out of out of the sky but ultimately whoever has
8:58the most manpower with guns on the ground willing to fight is likely to be
9:04able to stay in control it's also by the way big lesson about the second
9:08amendment how important the second amendment is and armed citizenry right uh because they don't
9:13have that the people with the guns of the government that's it uh very few
9:18people in iran are going to be able to get out there and get into
9:21a gun battle with members of the iranian security forces so with all that clay
9:27uh i think that the military side of this is showing incredible everything that uh
9:32hegseth and trump have been saying about this uh is true it's it's been an
9:38amazing display of u .s military capability does this go beyond this month i don't
9:43think so does this end with u .s troops on the ground i don't think
9:47so does this end with a new government in iran i don't think so that's
9:52where i come down on this one uh here by the way here's hegseth saying
9:55this morning let's cut four clay just saying they're going to take this to the
9:58end until the enemy says we give up play four destroy their missile stockpiles their
10:03missile launchers and their defense industrial base missiles and their ability to make them to
10:09destroy their navy and three permanently deny iran nuclear weapons forever it's a laser focused
10:16maximum authority mission delivered with overwhelming and unrelenting precision no hesitation no half measures as
10:24president trump declared yesterday we're crushing the enemy in an overwhelming display of technical skill
10:30and military force we will not relent until the enemy is totally and decisively defeated
10:36but we do so we do so on our timeline and at our choosing sounds
10:43good i hope we get there how many people do you think we um in
10:49general how many people do you think we you have named that we would be
10:53okay with being leaders of Iran.
10:56I don't think we even have a list of people that we think would be,
11:01we're hoping they emerge. That's my guess.
11:03Obviously, I've been out of the game a while.
11:05Maybe they've got someone just ready to go, but I would highly doubt it.
11:09Do you think Israel does?
11:10Because it seems like they have basic full optics, it feels like, on some level
11:15of inside of Iran. I think finding an Iranian who doesn't hate Israel, who has
11:20any political juice whatsoever inside of Iran, is, I'm not sure it's possible.
11:26It's very, very hard. Well, I wonder whether you could publicly hate Israel, but privately
11:31have a relationship with Israel.
11:33I mean, maybe, like maybe, sure.
11:35That would be my hope, is that we could find a solution in that way.
11:43And I think the long run here, look, if you want to tie Venezuela and
11:49Iran together, I think the long run is we should have more oil and gas
11:55stability going forward when this situation has ended than we did before.
12:01And when you combine it with the United States' ability to produce a ton of
12:06oil and gas, you know this, Buck, because this was a conversation that, when you
12:09started working at the CIA, would have been a big one.
12:11The Middle Eastern countries, which basically had the ability to curtail oil and gas shipments,
12:18it led to a lot of petro -dictator states.
12:22It feels to me like the petro -dictator state power is altering in a way
12:28that is favorable to the United States in many respects.
12:31This is a reminder where any of you who know somebody who works for big
12:37oil in this country, works for a natural gas company, an oil exploration company, you
12:43should give them a high five, because America is the true global energy producer superpower,
12:49which has enormous, enormous geopolitical advantages for us in dealing with all of this.
12:55We got so much of that stuff that we're selling it all over the world,
12:58but we know we've got secure supply, and we know that we are the single
13:02most important energy -producing power on the planet.
13:06That's how we come at this.
13:09A hundred percent. That is the best decision we have made in a long time.
13:12And by the way, the states that have rejected that, if you're listening to us
13:16in California right now, you may well be paying well over $5 a gallon, because
13:21California, which still, to my knowledge, Buck, and I know we got a lot of
13:25oil and gas guys and gals out there, still has a lot of oil and
13:28gas, right? California has the ability to pump far more.
13:32Do even more. Instead, they turned it off, effectively, because of the greenhouse, the climate
13:37change crazy people. How many Americans even know this?
13:39Really important trivia. You've got Saudi Arabia.
13:42You've got Russia. You've got some of these countries.
13:46Which country is the biggest oil producer in the world?
13:50America. It's America. That stuns a lot of people.
13:55No, it does. I mean, it stuns people.
13:58We produce more crude oil than any other country.
14:02We've surpassed Saudi Arabia. We've surpassed Russia.
14:05And our oil industry has done this, despite all the climate change, which is a
14:11complete waste of time and an absurdity that no human being should ever waste three
14:15seconds concerned about or anything else.
14:17But our oil industry is one of our biggest strategic assets as a nation.
14:22And yet Democrats trash them all the time and act like they're killing all of
14:27us. No, actually, you should go thank an oil man today or a woman if
14:30she happens to work in the oil industry.
14:32You should go say thank you for what you do, because that's why we can
14:35go around the world and kick anybody's ass and do it in a way that
14:39is blowing the minds of our top adversaries and enemies.
14:42Which, by the way, in the first Gulf War, for those of you who remember,
14:46that fear that they would curtail our ability to get oil and gas was the
14:52impetus to a large extent for the first Gulf War back in 1990 or whatever
14:56it was. It was a totally different world.
14:58I'll add into what you just said, Buck.
15:01Do you know what country they believe in the Western Hemisphere has the largest untapped
15:05resources of oil and gas?
15:08Venezuela. Well, the biggest proven reserves on the planet, yeah.
15:13So the fact that we now have the ability, basically, to also access that is
15:18yet another sign that we are curtailing the power of the oil and gas petrodictators
15:25all around the world, including Iran, Russia.
15:28It's not a surprise that a lot of these countries that are natural adversaries to
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17:25T's and C's apply. Welcome in.
17:27Hour number two. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show.
17:32Headline on Fox Business, oil prices have dropped the most in four years in the
17:39last 24 hours. If you're wondering whether the oil panic of yesterday has vanished, stock
17:46prices are up again today fairly decently.
17:50And MSNBC has removed their oil and gas tracker from their website as well as
17:59the stock market. Sorry, from their television broadcast.
18:03And so we're on to the next narrative, whatever it may be, after a one
18:08day everybody's going to collapse because we're not going to be able to pay for
18:13oil and gas narrative. And by the way, Buck, I was talking about this with
18:17Buck off the air. Yeah, tough spot if you were one of those guys who
18:21bought the oil and gas yesterday for $120 and now you're staring at $85 a
18:26barrel of oil. That's a big hit for a lot of the commodities traders out
18:32there. Speculation is risk. No doubt.
18:40We bring in now North Carolinian Michael Watley, one of the biggest battleground states of
18:48the midterm, will be North Carolina and in particular an open Senate seat there.
18:54The primaries are over. It is going to be Michael Watley against Roy Cooper.
18:58You have seen and helped to shepherd Trump to victories in North Carolina in 2016
19:05-2014. 2020 and 2024. And so you know the state better than almost anyone.
19:11What does it look like on the ground there?
19:14What needs to happen in order for a victory to happen in this seat to
19:17remain in Republican hands? Chairman Watley.
19:22Well, I really like what came out of the primaries.
19:25And we have a completely unified Republican Party.
19:27And we have the narrative that we really were hoping to have in this election
19:32cycle because this is about contrast.
19:34This is about a choice that North Carolinians have.
19:38And they are going to vote for a conservative champion who's going to be an
19:42ally for President Trump over Roy Cooper, who absolutely is not going to be an
19:48ally with the president. He's not going to support the president's agenda.
19:52He is going to be a soft -on -crime senator, just like he was a
19:56soft -on -crime governor. And he is going to always want higher taxes.
20:01He's going to want boys and girls sports and men and women's locker rooms.
20:04And he's going to always fight harder for criminals and illegal aliens than he is
20:08for the people of North Carolina.
20:10So, my understanding is you are the recovery czar for Western North Carolina, right?
20:17After Hurricane Helene, that Trump has talked about how you've been important in those efforts.
20:22How is that going? And what would you say about the state efforts that you
20:28weren't in control of to try to help out areas like Asheville and Boone?
20:35Well, what we saw with Roy Cooper was the governor was absolutely no activity whatsoever,
20:40either from Joe Biden or from Roy Cooper.
20:43They both left the state totally in shambles.
20:47What President Trump has done, what we've been able to do is bring $8 .75
20:52billion plus in recovery efforts to Western North Carolina.
20:57Ninety -nine percent of the roads have been rebuilt.
20:59The bridges have been rebuilt.
21:00The water systems, the wastewater systems have been rebuilt.
21:04You know, that is a very strong part of the state.
21:07It is a resilient part of the state.
21:09The people there have, you know, overcome adversity.
21:14But, you know, we're not ready to hang out a mission accomplished banner yet.
21:18But we feel very good about where we are in terms of the recovery.
21:22And this is the largest recovery effort by the federal government in North Carolina history
21:27for any hurricane. The governor, former governor of North Carolina, you're running against Roy Cooper.
21:35I remember seeing a super viral video of him asked a very basic question.
21:41Should men be able to compete in women's sports?
21:44And I know as March Madness is going on, there's...
21:47not a sports -crazier state hardly for basketball season than North Carolina right now.
21:53I think it's something that really cuts through and connects with a lot of North
21:57Carolinians in particular. Has he answered that question?
22:01I imagine that when you get on the debate stage and as this campaign progresses,
22:05that's going to be something that you really hammer him on.
22:08Well, he did answer the question because he vetoed three different bills to keep woke
22:12out of schools, boys out of girls' sports, and men's out of women's locker rooms.
22:16He's exactly wrong on this issue, said, and it really does, as you say, touch
22:22the hearts and minds of people all across North Carolina.
22:26What is the difference between you and Roy Cooper, as you see it, when it
22:31comes to immigration enforcement? That's obviously an area that matters a whole lot to the
22:37whole country, and it matters a whole lot to your home state of North Carolina.
22:40Where is Cooper on that issue?
22:42Where has he been as governor, and where will you be?
22:46Well, I'm going to support President Trump.
22:48I think that when we talk about the highest, most important function for any government,
22:52it is protecting its citizens.
22:54That's true whether it's local, state, or federal.
22:57And what President Trump has done in securing our border is not just keep out,
23:03you know, the millions of illegal immigrants that were flowing into the country every single
23:07year, but has also brought down drugs.
23:10He's brought down migrant crime, sex trafficking, you know, all of the scourges that came
23:16along with, you know, 10 to 15 million illegal immigrants that came across.
23:20You know, Roy Cooper, on the other hand, vetoed two different bills that would have
23:25forced sheriffs to honor ICE detainers and help get violent criminal illegal aliens out of
23:29North Carolina. Oh, I know that the answer is everywhere, every part of the state,
23:36but you know the state of North Carolina better than anybody.
23:39Buck just asked you about Western North Carolina, where I think you were born and
23:43raised, still recovering from a lot of what happened with Hurricane Helene.
23:47Where does a statewide race get decided in your mind?
23:51Is it the suburbs outside of Charlotte?
23:53Is it in turnout -related issues?
23:56Again, I know that there are lots of things to point to, but when you
24:00look at this state, where is a close election decided in North Carolina?
24:06Look, you nailed it on the head when you said everywhere matters.
24:10We're expecting that this race is going to be extraordinarily close.
24:13You know, when Tom Tillis won this seat for the first time in 2014, he
24:17had a 50 ,000 -vote margin, which was three -tenths of a point.
24:21When he won it for the second time, it was a six -tenths of a
24:25point margin, and Ted Budd got a very comfortable 50 .5.
24:29So we know that every place is going to matter.
24:32What we need to do is to get out there and talk to every Republican
24:36voter that supported President Trump who has not voted in the off years.
24:41So we look at people who voted in 2016, 2020, and 2024, but they didn't
24:46vote in 2018 or 2022.
24:49We want to go to them and have a conversation that says, this really matters.
24:54We need to dynamite them off the couch, and we need to get them to
24:57go vote. The other thing that we need to do is in a typical election
25:01in North Carolina, 46%, 47 % of the people are going to vote for a
25:05Republican candidate. 46%, 47 % are going to vote for a Democratic candidate.
25:10And then we are going to have to go have a conversation with that 6
25:14% to 8 % that are your swing voters.
25:17And they're predominantly suburban. They're predominantly college -educated.
25:21And the thing that matters to them is a conversation about crazy versus common sense.
25:26And they supported President Trump in this last election cycle, independent voters in North Carolina,
25:3154 to 45, because he was the common sense candidate.
25:35He was actually going out there and talking about the issues that they cared about,
25:40not the woke progressive issues that Kamala Harris was putting on the table.
25:44Roy Cooper is right there in lockstep with the Democratic Party when he's talking about
25:50open borders, inflationary spending, and a weak, woke America.
25:53What I'm fighting for is President Trump's common sense agenda to, you know, rebuild our
25:58economy, to make sure that our kids and our communities are safe, and that the
26:02men and women in uniform based in North Carolina have what they need to protect
26:06our interests and allies around the world.
26:08Speaking of Michael Watley, he's running for that Senate seat that's open in this cycle
26:13in North Carolina. I know you've strongly supported, Michael, President Trump's tax cuts, which have
26:20obviously boosted North Carolina's economy along with the rest of the country, but there's major
26:26affordability concerns in your state, just like there are in many states, particularly a lot
26:30of states people are moving to, right?
26:32Housing prices are going up because of that supply and demand reality.
26:36Roy Cooper wants to expand Medicaid.
26:38Roy Cooper wants to spend more money, and that's not going to help.
26:42What would you like to do?
26:44What kind of pro -growth policies would you prioritize in the Senate so that working
26:49families can get some relief and there can be some of the affordability issues addressed
26:55that are so critical right now, especially to those independent and swing voters?
27:00Yeah, look, tax policies, regulatory policies, and trade policies that are going to help North
27:05Carolina manufacturers, small businesses, and particularly our farms, right?
27:10We need to create more jobs.
27:12We need to make sure people are taking home bigger paychecks.
27:15And of course, Of course, we've got to get the cost down low, and that
27:18is going to take a concerted effort.
27:20One of the things that's so important about President Trump and the one big, beautiful
27:24bill that was passed by Congress last year is extending the Trump middle class tax
27:30cuts, which ended up being the largest tax cut in history, and making sure that
27:35no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security.
27:39Roy Cooper, when he was a legislator, he voted for multiple tax hikes.
27:44When he was the governor, he vetoed six different tax cuts, and he made it
27:49very clear that he would have voted against the one big, beautiful bill.
27:52So he's always going to support tax increases.
27:55He's always going to want to tax and spend your money.
27:59I'm going to always fight to make sure that we're going to bring those costs
28:02down. You know, you mentioned housing, right?
28:04So just today, we've got Secretary Scott Turner, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development coming
28:10into Charlotte, North Carolina, and we're going to have a roundtable where we're going to
28:14be focusing on bringing down housing costs and making sure that we have houses that
28:19are going to be available.
28:20It's really hard for you to set up and live the American dream when you
28:25can't get married and buy a house and raise a family.
28:27And so what we want to do is have an honest conversation with the secretary,
28:32along with, you know, real estate developers and lenders and construction folks about what is
28:38it going to take for us to be able to build more homes and bring
28:41down those prices. We need to bring, you know, interest rates down, right?
28:46President Trump has been fighting on that a lot.
28:48We need to have transparency in the housing markets, and we need to make sure
28:52that the HUD loans and other programs they have are specifically designed to get more
28:57first -time homeowners into place.
29:01How much is this race going to cost total, do you think?
29:04And for people out there that might have the resources to be able to help
29:08you, how can they help you?
29:10Well, this is going to be the most expensive Senate race in the history of
29:14the country, and we're seeing, you know, experts on both sides of the aisle are
29:17saying that we're going to be somewhere north of $600 million that are going to
29:21be spent on this race, which is going to eclipse what we saw in Ohio
29:25and Georgia and Pennsylvania in the last couple of election cycles.
29:29People want to support us.
29:30They can go to michaelwatley .com.
29:32We are certainly going to need help from all across the country, and we are
29:36going to be in a position to win this race when we have that support.
29:39Because we are believers that good policy is good politics, and we're going to be
29:45on the right side of every one of these 80 -20 issues, and we're going
29:48to be fighting for President Trump's common -sense agenda.
29:51I want to just come back to that number quickly because my jaw drop for
29:55people watching on video. You think this race is going to cost $600 million?
30:02Yeah, I think it's a stunning indictment on politics these days that this is what
30:07we're going to be spending on there, you know, but we need to make sure
30:10that we get our message out, you know, and President Trump did such a good
30:14job. What we did on the campaign was make sure that we were good stewards
30:19of every dollar, that we were spending it in a way that was going to
30:23maximize getting our message out there, but it didn't work if we didn't have a
30:27good message. And so when we talk about rebuilding the economy, restoring the borders and
30:32keeping our kids and our communities safe and making sure that our military has what
30:36they need, you know, as we're watching what happens now in Iran, we need to
30:42make sure that we're focusing on what are the issue sets that the voters care
30:46about. He is Michael Watley.
30:48He is hopefully going to be the next senator from the state of North Carolina.
30:52I'm sure we'll be talking to you a lot.
30:54That's $600 million battle. That is extraordinary.
30:57Sir, get your rest and be ready.
31:00We're ready to go and really appreciate you and your listeners.
31:03That is Michael Watley. Check him out.
31:05And one of the big open Senate seats, maybe the biggest battleground Senate battle in
31:13the country there. $600 million.
31:14I can't believe it. By the way, reports now that the New York Police Department
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32:38Welcome back in. Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton Show.
32:42We appreciate all of you.
32:43All of you hanging out with us.
32:44And we are glad to be joined by our good friend, Shannon Bream.
32:49Am I allowed to say it?
32:50I'm going to say it.
32:51I always ask, and then I say it anyway.
32:52Nearly a neighbor of mine, among other reasons that I appreciate everything that she does.
32:59She has great choices in where she has decided to live with her awesome husband,
33:04Sheldon, who often listens to the show.
33:06So thank you. Congratulations on the new book.
33:09Let me make sure that I get that out there for the title.
33:14It is Nothing is Impossible with God, Eleven Heroes, One God, Endless Lessons in Overcoming.
33:21Shannon, of course, Chief Legal Correspondent at Fox News, and we encourage all of you
33:25to go buy her book.
33:26Put her on the bestseller list like Buck was just on the bestseller list for
33:30the New York Times. And Shannon, I'll get to the book in a sec, but
33:34let me start with this.
33:35We're still expecting really big Supreme Court decisions.
33:39When do we expect some of these to come down?
33:42And what do you think has the potential to be the most significant between now
33:47and June when that term is over?
33:50Well, Clay, good to hear your voice.
33:52Great to be with you guys.
33:53Thanks for having me. We probably will get another round of opinions starting the week
33:58of March 23rd. They're back at arguments, oral arguments then.
34:01And so, listen, it's the court's world.
34:04We're just living in it.
34:04They could give these opinions anytime we want.
34:06But that's kind of my educated guess.
34:07You know, we're waiting on one really big one out of Louisiana that has to
34:11do with redistricting, with the Voting Rights Act.
34:13And you guys know we're tracking these states all over the country that are trying
34:17to do redistricting leading up to the midterm.
34:19So, if we get that decision on the earlier side, meaning, you know, March, April,
34:24rather than the later, which would be the end of June, it really does have
34:27the potential to impact a number of these states and what they're doing with redrawing
34:31these streets. So, excuse me, the districts.
34:33So, I'm watching for that one.
34:34We've got a couple that test the limits of executive power.
34:37You know, the president trying to dismiss the governor from the Fed board and some
34:40other interesting ones that we're just kind of waiting on our nail -biting standby.
34:45Shannon, I want to ask you about the book because I just went through the
34:48whole book thing and still going through it.
34:50And congrats. Congrats. Thank you.
34:52Thank you. I'm sure you're enjoying your copy very much.
34:55Thank you for your kind words.
34:58Tell me what you write in this book and what do people need to know?
35:02I want to dive right into it.
35:04Well, listen, it's a group of stories from the Bible, Old and New Testament, that
35:08have this theme of overcoming.
35:09Because, I mean, all of us get up against something in life that, you know,
35:13either it's unplanned and it's, you know, a terrible diagnosis or financial crisis or something
35:18really difficult in life. It may be something exciting, like, you know, starting a new
35:22business or having a baby or doing something.
35:24But we all have things that sometimes will make us feel a little bit overwhelmed.
35:27And that's a common thread in all of these stories.
35:30And so I hope that people will see themselves in these stories, be encouraged and
35:33see how God was working and help each of these people to overcome what was
35:37the tough thing in front of them.
35:40Shannon, you mentioned the Supreme Court decisions that are coming down soon.
35:45One of the biggest questions, and this is a huge mess in general, so maybe
35:49you have the perfect solution here is, and I think we've talked about this with
35:52you before, the tariff decision had so many different implications.
35:57But the biggest still is out there.
35:59It is, what happens with tariff refunds?
36:02How does this play out in your mind?
36:04Where does it go? Yeah, and listen, during the fight over the tariffs in the
36:09lower courts, the administration represented to the courts numerous times that they would pay out
36:15the refunds to the plaintiffs in those particular cases.
36:17So that was just a small group of businesses.
36:20So I pressed, you know, Secretary Besson, Kevin Hassett, others on this, like, what happens
36:25to everybody else out there?
36:26And you've seen, I mean, there have already been a lot of big filings, lawsuits
36:31filed with different companies across the spectrum saying, we want our money back.
36:35Well, now CBP, because this money comes in through Border Patrol, they say, listen, we
36:40are getting together a streamlined way to do this.
36:43It's going to take us about 45 days, I think they told the court recently,
36:46to kind of set up the way that you go about getting your refunds.
36:49But there are a lot of lawsuits from companies who say, we're not waiting for
36:51that, we want the money back, and we want a guarantee from the court that
36:54you're going to pay us.
36:57Hmm. How do you think this plays out, Shannon?
37:01Well, you know, the president himself was frustrated that the court did not give a
37:04specific, you know, framework for paying this money back.
37:08Instead, he, you know, said, oh, we're going to be tied up in litigation for
37:11a couple of years. So that's my question.
37:13Is the administration going to fight some of these refunds, or will they do, as
37:16CBP has said, set up this framework?
37:19Because, you know, several businesses out there have spoken publicly and said, listen, the forms
37:22that you fill out for these specific tariffs, it's always very specific.
37:26So you can track, you got the receipts, as the kids say, to show exactly
37:30what money you've paid out.
37:32And so it would seem with that in mind, if CBP really sets up this
37:35framework for getting it done, that that would expedite the process.
37:39But I think that there are going to be those who press for litigation to
37:42make sure that that vow is made good.
37:46When you look, Shannon, at the Supreme Court decisions, the one that you just referenced
37:52on the redistricting, in particular, using race as a criteria, the gerrymandering of race.
38:01I've seen some stories that that could flip 20 different districts, particularly in the South,
38:07if that's tossed. My suspicion, I'm curious if you would say.
38:10sign on, is that the court is going to wait as late as possible, release
38:15that ruling. I think it's going to invalidate those districts, but I think they want
38:19to do it late enough that it doesn't impact the 2026 midterms.
38:24You buy that, or do you think there is a possibility that they would interject
38:29themselves into that aspect of 2026?
38:34Yeah, and that's such a great question because that's what we keep waiting for.
38:38Listen, if this thing comes in the next couple of weeks, I do think it's
38:41going to impact a number of states that can make these changes before it's later.
38:45But if it comes at the end of June, it may preclude that process.
38:49You're right from getting too close to doing anything about the elections that are going
38:53to come in the midterms.
38:54The justices will tell us they want the court to be viewed as apolitical as
38:58possible. They don't want to get involved in looking like they're putting a weight on
39:02the scale in a partisan manner or any other way.
39:05So I don't know where they're going to do, where they're going to land with
39:08this. But, you know, the chief justice always tells us when the opinions are ready,
39:11we don't hold them or time them to meet any kind of specific political or
39:15other timeline. We release them.
39:17So they haven't even given us a date for the next release.
39:19But he said they don't play games with it, that when it's ready, we get
39:23it. Something I just thought about as we're here talking about matters affecting the high
39:29court and matters before the high court.
39:31Shannon, whatever happened to finding out who leaked the Dobbs decision in advance of the
39:35actual decision, very few people would have had access to that.
39:39And it feels like that just went nowhere.
39:43Buck, I love it. One of my favorite questions, because remember this administration picked that
39:49up. When the court had the investigation, the chief justice kept it in house, used
39:54the marshal service, used their internal workings to get it done.
39:57We know some people were pressed on taking lie detector tests and those kinds of
40:01things. But we all know if it was a clerk, and that's an if, we
40:04have no idea. They have these one -year terms.
40:07And if it's an internal Supreme Court investigation, when they leave at the end of
40:11that clerking term, the court kind of loses its reach over them.
40:15They can't take away their employment.
40:16They can't do anything from that infrastructure.
40:19And there are a lot of critics on the outside who said, this should have
40:23been farmed out. We should have brought in DOJ or some other federal investigative body
40:26to do this. Well, then, you know, when Dan Bongino was part of the administration,
40:30he talked a couple of times about this, saying the Dobbs decision is still on
40:34our list of investigations. Like, we're going to try to find out.
40:37So if the court cooperates with them, that's one thing.
40:40But if the court's not cooperating and turning over all the details of what their
40:44internal investigation found, I'm not sure how you kind of pick up the threats at
40:47this point. We want you to go buy her book.
40:50The book is Nothing is Impossible with God, Eleven Heroes, One God, Endless Lessons in
40:55Overcoming, Shannon Bream. Let me hit you with this, because I haven't heard this discussed
41:00in earnest. But a big part of what might happen in the Senate is who's
41:06going to control it, right?
41:07This could be the last year that President Trump has control of the United States
41:13Senate. Have you heard any discussions about the possibility of some of the older justices,
41:20maybe a Justice Alito, for instance, deciding that this is the time to step down
41:25because he knows that his confirmation would be someone who shares many of his judicial
41:32philosophies? Whereas if you wait until January, you could end up in a situation where
41:39Ruth Bader Ginsburg found herself or other justices have found themselves where your health is
41:45at the beck and call of a political universe you don't control.
41:49What discussion, if any, is about the Supreme Court right now?
41:53Oh, guys, this is one of our favorite parlor games in D .C., especially in
41:57the Supreme Court press corps.
41:58Like, it gives ulcers to all of us trying to figure this out and figure
42:02out what they're going to do, because you guys know these confirmation battles have gotten
42:05so heated the last few rounds that when somebody decides to step down, it triggers
42:12all kinds of pandemonium in D .C.
42:14And you're right. You've got to look to the midterms and see, does the Senate
42:17lose control, which would make it really hard?
42:19It's already difficult because you're not even guaranteed all the Republican votes.
42:22If you're a Republican voter who wants to see President Trump to get another appointment,
42:26they don't always stick together either.
42:29So, you know, it's a really heavy lift.
42:31But I've heard nothing. I mean, Justices Thomas and Alito have both hired their clerks.
42:35They have everything in place that you would think is going to be in place
42:38for future terms. That's something that they do pretty far in advance.
42:42So I haven't heard any rumblings that anybody's actually thinking about it.
42:45We like to speculate. But my educated guess is that Justice Thomas is not going
42:49to leave the bench by choice.
42:51He's having a good time.
42:52He fights every day. I think when he shows up there every day, he does
42:55it with such glee for his haters that I think he's somebody who's going to
42:59stay as long as possible.
43:02You know, we have no indication that Justice Alito is even thinking about it.
43:05But I think he would step down before Justice Thomas would.
43:08So I think June could be a very interesting month on that front.
43:11Yeah. Let me hit you with this because I like to look at the markets
43:15and there are markets right now on whether a new Supreme Court justice would be
43:20confirmed before 2027. And it's right at 60%.
43:25Yes. So there are people making wagers that somebody Alito is the favorite, as you
43:31just kind of ran through that, you know, he might be considering this.
43:35And again, you've done this for a long time.
43:38If you want. wanted to ensure who your replacement was going to be from a
43:43judicial philosophy perspective next year that meaning this year might be the last year where
43:49you have some certainty on that for some time to come right and listen as
43:55much as the court wants to be apolitical they're not blind they listen they get
44:01the political um trends they get the political conversation and you do have to think
44:06about that remember when justice ginsburg was being pressed so hard by the left to
44:11step down and it made her dig in her heels i mean there were op
44:14-eds telling her she had to go there were law professors calling for her to
44:16go and she was like no sir i will go on my own timeline and
44:20i'll go when i'm good and ready and then the left was so furious with
44:23her uh obviously passing away well she was still holding that seat and um you
44:27know president trump obviously getting to replace her so it's a really sore point um
44:32but a lot of people think on the right even listen you give deference to
44:36these men who you know are the more senior members of the conservative wing of
44:39the court they've given decades of their lives and we should respect that so um
44:45i don't know i and i do think that that both thomas and alito are
44:48justices too if you pressured them or started saying hey time to show you the
44:52door that would make them stick around um but they're not dummies about the political
44:56calculation so i got to imagine that that's part of their consideration no doubt new
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47:38go back and listen on demand anytime you'd like the iheart radio app best place
47:42to start wherever you get your podcast hour by hour the show goes up go
47:45listen to it you missed hour one we had a great hour one some people
47:49say the greatest hour one of any show this this week uh so far there's
47:55a great great hour one of the show we're talking iran stuff we're talking economy
47:59we had jim jordan on we had shannon bream on great americans we had michael
48:04watley on i think he's going to win that race clay in north carolina i
48:08really do i like michael watley he's a good man they're going to their money
48:12that's going to be spent it's just crazy how much money is being spent by
48:16most and democrats 600 million dollars he said buck if you were watching on video
48:22my jaw it's rare that my jaw drops when i hear a number i was
48:25even projecting okay it'll cost a couple hundred million dollars 600 million dollars for one
48:33senate seat is outrageous but it's indicative of how much money is going to be
48:37spent and we just talked with shannon bream about this you can't be confident if
48:43you are the white house right now that you are going to have control of
48:47congress this might be your last opportunity this year might be the last opportunity of
48:54you uh meaning the republicans to be able to get anything through uh the house
48:59and the senate and so if that's going to be true um it makes all
49:04of these stakes that much higher you including, as we were just talking about, the
49:08possibility of could there be a Supreme Court vacancy?
49:11Because, Buck, if you don't make the decision to go now in 26, 27 and
49:1728, if Republicans lose control of the Senate, nothing's getting done.
49:21And then in 28, you have another election, and you don't know who's going to
49:25win. You might have a split, and so you might not have certainty on who
49:30your replacement's going to be for four or five years, maybe longer, if you're a
49:3470 -some -odd -year -old Supreme Court justice.
49:38Also, some breaking news here that Gracie Manchin, which is the mayor's residence in New
49:45York City, right like a block or two before my little sister actually went to
49:50school. I know the area very well.
49:52Gracie Manchin has, well, there's a report of the NYPD responding to a device, a
50:01suspicious device, not immediately clear if it was a hoax or real or not, but
50:06then, look, this is getting more attention on, there was that protest, and the counter
50:11-protesters, remember, a protest about too many Islamic radicals in New York, so Islamic radicals
50:19were like, how dare you, and then threw a bomb at them.
50:22Kind of tells you a lot, as we were discussing.
50:25And now there's another suspicious package that has been found.
50:30You remember, Clay, I think it was the New York Post held a contest for
50:33the name of a strip club that at one point was going to be opened,
50:36an all -male strip club that was going to be opened near the site of
50:41a mosque. Do you know, but do you remember, do you know about this?
50:44No, I don't remember this story at all.
50:45I think it was the New York Post, and the winner was suspicious packages.
50:51That's actually really funny. Which I always thought was kind of a funny one.
50:55That's very, very funny. If you're going to have a strip club across from a
50:57mosque, you know, because some guy wanted to make a point that they won't allow
51:01a strip club near a mosque.
51:03An all -male, it was like a Chippendales thing.
51:05This was a long time ago.
51:06I'm pretty sure it wasn't the Onion.
51:07I'm pretty sure it was a real thing, but maybe it was the Onion.
51:10It's a funny story anyway.
51:11Sometimes, you know, when the facts and the legend conflict, you've got to go with
51:14the legend. But whenever I see suspicious packages now, I always think of that story
51:18or that urban legend, whatever it is.
51:21Now, we have the CNN reporting on this is incredible.
51:28And this is where X, I know we sound a little bit like Elon superfans
51:33here, maybe. I'll just speak for myself.
51:35Actually, Clay, with the Tesla, I think it's a pretty big fan of the Tesla.
51:39I think Elon is my 15 -year -old son the other day was just, would
51:48you stop? You may or may not know this phrase.
51:51Would you stop with the Elon glaze?
51:54Glaze is like when you're giving somebody praise.
51:56I'm like, he's the greatest capitalist in the history of the world.
52:00I mean, I think it's fair to say that of anybody that's alive today, I
52:05think he's probably done more in a positive direction from a capitalist perspective than almost
52:11anybody ever has. And did we say this on the air or was it off
52:14air? AOC was criticizing Elon Musk recently for being a billionaire who had never accomplished
52:21anything. And Elon Musk just did a star, you know, an asterisk and said trillionaire,
52:27which is, Elon is, if he's not already, soon to be the first trillionaire in
52:32the history of the world.
52:35And I think it's because he's built pretty incredible products.
52:38So to cut you off, I might like Elon and be more of an Elon
52:41Glazer, according to my own 15 -year -old, than even you are.
52:45But so I'll sign on certainly to this.
52:47What is it called in Gen Z speak?
52:49Gen Z has some very interesting, first of all, I've noticed that we grew up
52:53saying dude the way they say bro.
52:56Bro is now what dude was in the 90s.
52:58You'd be like, dude, now it's bro.
53:01Everything is bro. That's one thing I've noticed about the Gen Z.
53:04I have a Gen Z babysitter.
53:07And I listen very closely to her lexicon, to her verbiage.
53:12And I'm learning things all the time.
53:14It's the oldest man way to describe how a young person.
53:18I listen to her lexicon, to her verbiage.
53:22How old is your Gen Z lass that is a babysitter?
53:2822 -year -old Gen Z.
53:30Just got out of the IDF, actually.
53:3322 years old. And she was serving over in Israel.
53:36Now she's here. And she's great.
53:39She's great with speech. Fantastic.
53:41But I'm learning from the way that she speaks.
53:43And there's a thing. Mogging.
53:46Mogging. I've learned this thing.
53:49So when Clay and I took a photo years ago with Tommy Lahren, and Tommy
53:56looked like Tommy Lahren, and Clay and I both looked particularly schlubby even for us,
54:03we were mogged by Tommy.
54:06This is right? That's the correct?
54:08It's like when someone completely overshadows you in a photo because they're so good looking.
54:14I think that's what mogging is.
54:15Basically, you can mog people in all respects, but typically it is applied for physical.
54:21Like, if you went to the beach and I went to the beach, and like
54:25Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know, Mr.
54:28Olympian style, was there at the beach, he would be totally mogging us.
54:32Like, we would be the fat...
54:34Flubby guys at the beach.
54:35I mean, now he's pretty wrinkly and old.
54:37But, yeah, I get what you're saying.
54:38So who is the most, who is the super ripped guy now?
54:41There aren't as many famous ripped guys.
54:43I mean, I know there's tons of wrestlers and things like that.
54:45I think super bodybuilders have become, did you see the guy who was like, I
54:49think won the Arnold Classic, the photos that were going around, does not even look
54:52like a human musculature. I mean, it looks like another species.
54:56It's crazy how jacked this guy is.
54:57Yeah, well, some of those guys can't put a shirt on.
55:00So it's hard to be like, oh, you're the strongest man on the, like, I'm
55:03not kidding. Like, they can't take a shirt off and take a shirt on because
55:07they're so muscular. Like, their shoulders don't work.
55:10They can't just, like, do normal things.
55:13Right. And you're taking massive doses of anabolic steroids to get to that.
55:17And that's just known. I mean, this isn't like some, see, everyone, you're not hiding
55:20it. You can't be a bodybuilder, a male bodybuilder competitor.
55:24It's interesting. The most competitive of the female body, and I'm in Miami, which is
55:29I think now probably the bodybuilding capital of the country, or certainly South Florida's got
55:33to be up there. South Florida is the attractiveness capital of the United States by
55:39far. Everybody's good looking. Everybody's in shape.
55:42Like, L .A. is probably number two in terms of people who are just in
55:46great. Miami's now number one.
55:47Your fitness level in South Florida is a minus three compared to the American average.
55:53So if you think you're like a seven out of ten in terms of fitness
55:56for your age category, you come to South Florida, you're like a four or a
56:01five. It's just the way it is.
56:02Look, it applies to me, too.
56:03Trust me. I was like, I came down here.
56:05I was like, I'm the fattest guy in the whole gym.
56:07Like, it's tough down here.
56:08Well, and also it's warm, so people wear less clothes, so it's hard to hide.
56:12Like, you can't wear a bulky jacket.
56:14You don't get, like, if you're the fat guy in Miami, everybody knows you're the
56:17fat guy in Miami. Yeah, you don't.
56:19I mean, around here, it's a whole different thing with the year -round beach.
56:23Okay, so look smogging. We've explained to you now, for Gen Z speak, most of
56:27you it's going to be your grandkids or your kids that will know what mogging
56:30is. And you explained glazed.
56:35There's some other Gen Z terms that I'll think of that are very, very common
56:39usage these days. But anyway, going back to CNN here for a moment.
56:44Oh, who are we glazing?
56:46Elon, because Elon's incredible. He is.
56:48And you were saying the reason we knew this story from CNN to a large
56:52extent is because of Twitter and the way that it's changed culturally.
56:55Yeah, I mean, Twitter used to be a left -wing propaganda platform and allowed conservatives
57:01on, but it actually was nefarious because it was always suppressing.
57:06If you're in a race, what's worse?
57:09Hey, this is a race to determine who the fastest person in the world is,
57:13but I'm going to exclude, like, most of the fastest people and then give a
57:18gold medal to somebody who's actually not the fastest or if you put everybody in
57:22the race and then you have the actual fastest people, you know, running with, like,
57:27shackles on their legs or running barefoot or something.
57:29They might even run faster barefoot.
57:31But anyway, you get what I'm saying, right?
57:32Like, it's actually more nefarious to pretend it's an honest platform.
57:37X now does not operate as a left -wing propaganda platform.
57:43And it's not perfect, but it's a lot better than it was.
57:46And so CNN has had to put this out.
57:48A post regarding the two individuals arrested for throwing homemade bombs outside of New York
57:54City Mayor Zoran Mamdani's home failed to reflect the gravity of the incident, thereby breaching
57:59the editorial standards we require for all our reporting.
58:02It has therefore been deleted.
58:06Now, just to share with everybody what the tweet was, this is from CNN's official
58:11account, which has millions and millions of followers still.
58:14Two Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New York City Saturday morning for what could have been
58:20a normal day enjoying the city during abnormally warm weather.
58:23But in less than an hour, their lives would be drastically changed as they would
58:28be arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an anti -Muslim protest outside of Zoran Mamdani's
58:33home. Clay, that construct of how to tell this story is, like, clinically insane.
58:41I mean, you could do this with anybody.
58:42It would say, you know, it's like Osama bin Laden was having just another day
58:46eating some chunks of goat in a cave in Afghanistan, thinking about a Quranic verse.
58:52And then, boom, all of a sudden on his TV, the planes ran into the
58:56buildings. Like, what are you doing?
58:58Yeah, and this is where it becomes significant to me.
59:02A lot of times people can screw up.
59:05I've written a lot. You've written a lot.
59:07We talk a lot, four hours plus every day, variety of different topics.
59:12To me, what is an utter indictment of what you just read that went viral
59:17this morning is it's a product of the culture of CNN.
59:22In other words, you know this, articles don't go up on CNN .com without having
59:27been vetted by multiple editors.
59:29And I would submit that a CNN account does not tweet something out without it
59:36having the ability to have been overseed by multiple editors, which is a good thing,
59:41right? You don't want CNN suddenly tweeting out 100 % inaccurate news because it could
59:47be very traumatic to the nation as a whole, right?
59:51If suddenly CNN said, hey, something awful has happened to President Trump and it's not
59:56true at all, it could alter the marketplace people see on stock markets.
1:00:01Everything else, by the way, Caroline Levitt has started a briefing and we will be
1:00:05updating you on what she is saying there.
1:00:09But all of that is to say this is the culture of CNN that must
1:00:14be ripped out root and branch.
1:00:16And this is why, for those of you out there who didn't care about who
1:00:19was going to buy Warner Brothers, I did care.
1:00:23CBS News was a mess.
1:00:24I think CBS News has gotten better under new ownership.
1:00:28I think that similarly CNN needs to be reimagined and redefined and rehabilitated based on
1:00:36the way that the culture of their news has broken.
1:00:38And that tweet and that story is a perfect example of a culture that's broken.
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