Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Mar 30 2026

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast.
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0:05Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
0:07Buck, I just want to read some of this Wall Street Journal piece about the
0:12idea of going in to seize this uranium.
0:15It does, when you read a couple of these paragraphs, sound so much like a
0:21movie that it's hard to believe this is real.
0:27There would be several challenges.
0:28Here is among this. Tell me, Buck, that this doesn't sound like a pitch for
0:33Top Gun 3 or a television show about special forces.
0:38Teams of U .S. forces would need to fly to the sites, likely under fire
0:42from Iranian surface -to -air missiles and drones.
0:45Once on site, combat troops would need to secure perimeters so engineers with excavating equipment
0:51could search through debris and check for mines and booby traps.
0:56The extraction of the material would likely need to be conducted by an elite special
1:00ops team, specially trained to remove radioactive material from a conflict zone.
1:05The highly enriched uranium is likely contained in 40 to 50 special cylinders that resemble
1:12scuba tanks. They would need to be put into transportation, cast to protect against accidents.
1:18Unless an airfield was available, a makeshift one would need to be set up to
1:22bring equipment in and out and take the nuclear material out.
1:25The entire operation would take days or even a week to complete.
1:30This totally sounds like a pitch that you would hear for a Hollywood movie.
1:35When they're describing this in the article, I can just imagine as the SEAL team
1:42descends on the Fordow site and is Sean Connery appearing going, Welcome to the Rock.
1:48Yeah. But not only that, you can even think about the television or movie components
1:54to this where the radioactive nerds interacting, meaning the guys who are in charge of
2:00getting all the radioactive materials out, about interacting with the badass special ops guys, you
2:06would imagine there's a little bit of a cultural discord, potentially, between the engineers who
2:11are super nerds as it pertains to radioactive materials.
2:15The Intel nerds are cool too, Clay, just to be clear.
2:17The Intel nerds, you know, we had our uses.
2:20Look, no, this is a, it's an incredible plan, and in all seriousness, I know
2:26we're having a little bit of a Hollywood moment about it, but in all seriousness,
2:31it would be the whole thing.
2:33Even if what you're saying, or your theory, Clay, let's just say that was true,
2:37to pull this off, Yeah.
2:39would be an era -defining, peace in the Middle East, biggest Trump badass move of
2:47all time. I mean, this would be number one.
2:50This would be a moment up there with Trump getting shot in the air, raising
2:53his fist, and telling everybody to fight, which is still the most iconic political presidential
2:57moment of our lifetime. So, yes, this would be pretty next level.
3:01Let me ask you this.
3:02You've briefed the president in the Oval Office before.
3:06President Trump has a cinematic sense for the presidency, and also his role in the
3:12presidency. How receptive might he be?
3:16Some people out there can say, oh, this is crazy that you would talk about
3:19how this sounds like a movie, or it sounds like a, you know, very television
3:24show. But a president who has a cinematic understanding of the role, responsibility, and symbolism
3:31of the presidency, wouldn't the pitch, if it's accepted, likely be that President Trump thinks
3:38of this as a badass action hero movie -like action, that he is ordering?
3:44In other words, is that a crazy take psychologically, that that pitch might resonate with
3:50him? Now, my concern is, after what we saw with Maduro, and after what we
3:55have seen so far of the successful strikes on Iran, sometimes you start to be
4:01overconfident. You think he's got a hot hand fallacy?
4:04Sports analogy. Yes, another sports analogy from you.
4:07But yes, you pull up from midcourt, Duke fans know a little bit about this,
4:11and drain a jumper, you feel like the next one you're going to hit.
4:15And so I wonder psychologically how all of this plays in, because it also, Buck,
4:20is a master stroke that allows you to declare victory, and have a signature event
4:26to point to. Because if we just pull out now, most people are going to
4:30say, I don't know the difference between this Iranian leader and the other one.
4:33It takes time to figure out whether there's going to be a substantial difference.
4:37Master stroke, okay, we've got the uranium on the plane, and we took away their
4:42ability to actually create nuclear weapons.
4:45It seems like it would appeal to Trump's cinematic sense of the American presidency.
4:50And also, if we're going back to the Hollywood side of it for a second,
4:53again, I understand that this is all very real, and that there'd be U .S.
4:56forces who would be at risk and everything else.
4:58But just if we're talking about this, as we do on a radio show for
5:02a moment, it reminds me a little bit also of the storyline, or some elements
5:07of The Peacemaker, which I think is an underrated, do you know The Peacemaker?
5:11I haven't seen it. George Clooney and Nicole Kidman, 90s military action flick about, essentially,
5:20rogue Russian nuclear material that they have to track.
5:24down it's it's a pretty good movie it holds up actually for what it is
5:28uh so for any of you're looking for a little bit of a throwback flick
5:31but there's a whole thing about this is what it's just tracking down i might
5:35i don't can't remember if plutonium is back to the future we all remember that
5:39right the plutonium i think it's uranium that they're tracking in the peacemaker but it's
5:43nuclear fissile uh material is what they're trying to get and and this has been
5:48a concern for well that had been a concern obviously for a long time that
5:51it would get out into the open market and there'd be some rogue element uh
5:55whole dirty bomb issue uh dirty bomb scare during the bush cheney years um but
6:00now this would be taking nuclear material from the i would assume the most defended
6:06sites now they've been hit hard with missiles and everything else but this is not
6:10this is not landing on the beaches along the strait of hormuz to create a
6:16well a beachhead of security essentially for the tankers going through this would be right
6:23in the middle of iran taking it getting there getting it out it's a crazy
6:28potential outcome by the way i don't think the wall street journal writes this unless
6:31somebody from the administration is talking to them about it well that that's why i
6:35wonder again my alarm bells going off could there be some agreement tacitly behind scenes
6:42that the u .s is going to show up and get this and we also
6:45have a precedent here with trump had talked about hey maduro you better you better
6:50yes you better stop messing around and maduro's like come and get it it's like
6:55oh well he won't ever do that because they know he's coming he doesn't care
6:59yes so this is not oh the plan is ruined i think trump at some
7:04level wants the iranians to know that this is in play as well which is
7:09what he just tweeted uh the united states is in serious discussions with a new
7:14and more reasonable regime uh great progress has been made but if for any reason
7:20a deal is not shortly reached which it probably will be and if the hormuz
7:25strait is not immediately open for business we will conclude our lovely stay in iran
7:30by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their electric generating plants oil wells and
7:37karg island uh which we have so far and he says possibly all desalinization plants
7:44as well so far he says we haven't touched those areas this will be retribution
7:48for our many soldiers and others that iran has butchered and killed over the old
7:53regime's 47 year reign of terror thank you for your attention to this matter uh
8:00now buck the other thing i wanted to play and i do think this is
8:03interesting and i should say by the way brecca stroll from the daily wire will
8:07join us at 1 30 eastern to talk about the no kings protest and kelly
8:12leffler from president trump's uh administration will be here in studio in the nashville studio
8:18with me at 2 30 as there are a lot of trump administration officials in
8:23the nashville area right now including vice president jd vance but buck listen to this
8:28uh we're talking about hey uh what should happen in iran it's important to recognize
8:33the political ramifications of this michigan is having a senate race open senate seat they
8:40are picking both a democrat and a republican to run for this open seat if
8:44republicans were to win it it would basically end any chance of democrats taking back
8:50control of the senate this is one of the top democrat contenders a michigan senate
8:56candidate named abdul el sayed and here he is on audio saying i've got to
9:03avoid taking a public position on the assassination of ayatollah kamine because there's lots of
9:11people in michigan who are sad about it dearborn in particular listen to cut two
9:17oh like this is going to destabilize reason i also want to remind you guys
9:20that there are a lot of people in dearborn who are sad today so like
9:25i just don't want to comment on himani at all like i i don't think
9:31it's worth even touching that this is where we are buck democrats running for senate
9:39seat in a battleground state like michigan this is him talking this is one of
9:44the top three senate candidates there is audio of him saying hey too many people
9:49are sad i can't even discuss the fact that we took out the ayatollah if
9:53i were emperor of america and i found out that somebody was a cominiest um
10:00i would summarily expel them from the country yep now i wish we could do
10:05that we can't lawfully if they're a u .s citizen we can't do that but
10:08i'm talking about even if you're if you're a cominiest and you're a u .s
10:11citizen i'd say no you know what you're done you're out uh if only guys
10:16we should elect the emperor of the universe uh because what that means and this
10:19is what matters uh for our conversation here what that means is that you hate
10:24america and you hate jews and you hate israel um because it's not possible to
10:28support the iranian regime without all of those the the regime not the people without
10:33all of those things being true i mean it would be a little bit like
10:36oh my gosh there are so many people who are sad about bin laden getting
10:39taken out by seal team six okay well then you're an al -qaeda supporter or
10:43you know you're an al -qaeda sympathizer i mean khomeini is is a vile terrorist
10:48piece of you know what that is just the that is just reality these are
10:52whole Herbal people that ran a country into the ground that should be a place
10:56that, Clay, you and I would say, hey, it would be so fun to take
10:59our families back on vacation to Tehran.
11:01I know you hear that, and it sounds absurd.
11:03It's only absurd because of the mullahs.
11:06Yes. People, you could go back and look at what it was like in the
11:0850s and in the 60s, early 60s.
11:11I mean, the video of people, I mean, it was the most advanced of all
11:13of them. You had chicks walking around in miniskirts and going to discotheques, okay?
11:17That's what Iran was like.
11:19And then the Islamic lunatics took over, the Islamic extremists, and ruined the whole place.
11:27Bad ideas can ruin any place.
11:28This is what you realize, whether it's communism, Islamism, can ruin anything.
11:33Bernie Sanders -ism. Sorry, Vermont.
11:35Can we play that one more time?
11:36Because the other thing I love about this book is the staff saying, like, oh,
11:40yeah, great point. Like, listen to this.
11:4217 seconds. Here it is.
11:44This is one of the leading candidates to be the Democrat representative in the state
11:49of Michigan saying, we can't put out a statement because too many people are sad
11:53about Iran's leader getting taken out all over Dearborn, just outside of Detroit.
11:59So, like, this is going to destabilize reason.
12:01I also want to remind you guys that there are a lot of people in
12:04Dearborn who are sad today.
12:06So, like, I just don't want to comment on Khomeini at all.
12:11Like, I don't think it's worth even touching that.
12:16So, again, this is leaked from inside of his campaign, and he's one of the
12:21leading candidates right now. He could be the nominee for the Democrat party for the
12:25open Senate seat in Michigan.
12:28I just want to know who these people are.
12:30I want – why can't they just, you know, raise their hands?
12:32We should know who they are.
12:33You're upset that Khomeini's gone?
12:34I think that their fellow Iranian – well, I'm assuming they're Iranian, but I think
12:39there are a lot of Iranian Americans who would like to know, really?
12:42Yeah. You're a Khomeini -ist?
12:44You should tell everybody about this.
12:45We should hear more about this.
12:47I actually think this guy at some level is – well, he's just a leftist
12:51who is anti -American, which is so common among Democrats, particularly among Democrats, for whom
12:55anti -whiteness is their primary fixation and focus.
13:01So being pro -Khomeini is really just a way of being anti -Jewish and anti
13:05-American at the same time.
13:06So this is how they view these things.
13:08It's not about is Iran a good regime, a bad regime.
13:10It's just, you know, you hate white supremacist America, quote -unquote.
13:15You hate Israel and the Jews because you actually view that as an extension of
13:18white supremacist America, which, as we've discussed, is not reality in any context, but that's
13:23how the left in this country thinks about it.
13:25So, yeah, it's pretty nuts.
13:27A lot of wackos running around with Democrats.
13:28Here's the craziest part, Buck.
13:30What if that actually benefits his campaign, that audio cut that we just played?
13:37Because there's a lot of people on the right who are saying this is negative
13:40for him. His odds have spiked in a positive direction.
13:43He's the second favorite right now to be the nominee on Calcian politics.
13:48Oh, I don't think that's going to hurt him at all.
13:49I was assuming that's not going to hurt him at all.
13:52If you hate America because you're so anti -Trump that you can't see anything beyond
13:56it, anything that is against Trump, you are for, right?
14:01So this is the way they view everything.
14:03So Trump killed the Khomeini and is trying to change the regime in Iran.
14:07Therefore, there are leftist maniacs in this country who are rooting for the regime and
14:13the continued suppression of the Iranian people and the continued terrorist tentacles all over the
14:19world and funding Hezbollah and funding Hamas and all that, you know, that's how they
14:24view the world. So it is a good versus evil thing at the end of
14:27the day, everybody. We all get to pick a side.
14:30You know what side we're on.
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15:47Welcome in. Second hour of Play In.
15:49Buck gets going right now.
15:50We've got the White House briefing.
15:52It's going to be starting shortly.
15:54We'll bring you any highlights, any important breaking news from that as we are here
15:57live with all of you.
15:59Also, looking at those TSA lines to give you some real -time updates as we
16:06can. Looking like still very much under control.
16:11TSA lines are not the nightmarish four -hour stand, hurry -up, and wait marathons that
16:19they had previously been. TSA lines are not the only ones that they had previously
16:19been. because Democrats do not want illegal alien criminals to be lawfully processed under our
16:28federal statutes and removed from this country.
16:30They completely oppose that idea, which is interesting because it's the law, but they don't
16:35care. Does the law matter to them?
16:37No, it does not. So now we have some other things to get to as
16:41well. We have the No Kings rally from over the weekend, which I think should
16:50be called the March of the Malkontents.
16:53This is just people who are unhappy and upset.
16:56And Democrats are a party driven by, first and foremost, emotion.
17:01Republicans, say what you want about them, but we try to focus on reason, prior
17:07experience. We try to focus on what has worked, what will work, what is likely
17:14to be true now in the general sense of things.
17:19Democrats are, this is how I feel, and they get very upset about whatever the
17:24issue may be. And here's a perfect example of this, Clay.
17:27A No Kings rally attendee.
17:30I mean, you could do this all day, but this was, I'm trying to see
17:34who, give them credit. It was a Fox affiliate put this out.
17:38A No Kings rally attendee is combining the stolen land thing with the no one's
17:44illegal thing with all kinds of stuff.
17:46This is, this is cut for, play it.
17:49So you young ladies, you have signs.
17:51First, tell us about your signs.
17:53Yes, my sign says no one is illegal on stolen land.
17:57Wow. It's so true. Tell me about that.
18:00Well, no one, we are on stolen land, and you can't be illegal on it.
18:05It just doesn't make sense.
18:09Clay, no one can be here illegally because we are not here legally has got
18:15to be one of the all -time takes from the No Kings rally attendee here.
18:21But it makes sense in that it makes no sense, and none of the things
18:25they say make any sense.
18:26It also goes to a lot of what we've talked about on this program, which
18:30is, if you control the story of American history, then you can make arguments for
18:36the illegitimate nature of everything in the United States.
18:40Because if we are on stolen ground, and if we are, if we ever had
18:47slavery here, then we are in a position where there is no moral authority to
18:52justify anything. And obviously the implication of her entire statement is, which I wish the
18:58person interviewing her had followed up on, there should be no borders, right?
19:03If we're on stolen ground and no one can be illegal, then the logical extension
19:08of that argument in her mind is there should be no borders at all, I
19:13guess, on any countries anywhere in the world.
19:16Because basically all land is stolen, however you want to define it, unless it's land
19:23that no one has ever resided on before, I guess.
19:26Also, what are we supposed to do about said stolen land?
19:30This is another part of this.
19:31And I don't want to spend too much time on it because it is so
19:32absurd. Really, the Democrat ethos can be boiled down.
19:37It has all the intellectual seriousness of a bad John Lennon song, imagine with no
19:44borders, imagine stolen land. It's all crap, okay?
19:47It's nonsense. It's a total waste of everyone's time.
19:50But I also would want to know if this is the position that they're going
19:54to take, what are we supposed to do about it?
19:57The point is nothing. No one will do anything about it.
20:00But it is meant as a show.
20:02It is virtue signaling. It is moral preening.
20:05It is look at me.
20:06I care about things that I will not change today based on things that someone
20:11else did a long time ago, and now I take a bow for nothing.
20:16And this is unfortunately a very powerful, very potent force among these Democrats because these
20:22are unserious people who are unhappy.
20:25And unserious, unhappy people will look for any opportunity to feel better about themselves with
20:30unearned virtue, with an unearned esteem.
20:35And that's what the Democrat Party, so many of the causes, come down to.
20:39Agree with us on this, and you're a good person.
20:41Why? Shut up. Because the people on the television tell us that, or because the
20:46people on the Internet are saying so.
20:48Here is, but we're going to have Daily Wire reporter Breka Stoll with us in
20:53just a little bit. Here she is, Clay, at the D .C.
20:57Remember, there's a whole bunch of these.
20:58There was a huge one in New York City.
20:59My family walked through it in New York, or walked past it, and told me
21:04that, you know, it's exactly what you would expect.
21:06It's a lot of shrill, unhappy -looking people.
21:09That's really the primary demographic.
21:12Here's the D .C. No Kings protest.
21:14This is Cut 5. This is Breka Stoll, who will be with us in a
21:17little bit to talk about it.
21:18Play it. Working up every day as a black woman is such a political act,
21:21so that in itself is exhausting, but, like, the fight never stops.
21:26I can't wait until this s*** is behind us, and we don't have to worry
21:31about people dying in ICE, Cassie.
21:32We don't have to worry about losing our rights as women, as black people, as
21:37any marginalized group. So, gotta represent.
21:41Yeah. And how are those rights being taken away right now?
21:44How are they being taken away right now?
21:46How are those rights being taken away right now?
21:49literally just like i have teachers as friends and they are struggling to try to
21:57educate our kids in classrooms so because of what this administration is doing um black
22:06women are pretty much being murdered in medical professions where we go to seek medical
22:13care and that research is being defunded i play if emotional stability and linear thinking
22:21were requirements for voting i truly believe the republican party would get 80 to 90
22:28percent of the vote 80 to 90 percent i mean i give credit to brecca
22:34who's going to join us here in a little bit for asking the questions follow
22:38up you make your argument and then you say okay what evidence do you have
22:41for that um i the real essence of this is if you have been born
22:49i think this is so true if you have been born i bet you would
22:53sign on to this since 1970 in the united states there is virtually no discrimination
23:01whatsoever that you have faced and frankly if you are a black woman the data
23:07actually reflects that you have been rewarded merely for being black in other words instead
23:13of being a victim you have been given uh rewards based on your race and
23:20gender that you did nothing other than be born to receive and obviously this is
23:25the entire idea is we have to address past racial wrongs by creating racism in
23:32favor of people who've been discriminated against in the past that's that's really the essence
23:36of it but buck would you sign off on that i i don't know how
23:39old that woman is but based on her voice i would guess that she's 35
23:4340 years old so that would mean that she was born in 1980 1985 whatever
23:48the math is on that uh to be able to figure out where she was
23:52she might have been born in 1990 this is one of the craziest ideas out
23:57there if you're 95 years old and you're black in this country i think you
24:00have a reason to have grievance based on your early life and how you were
24:04treated i think that is fair if you're under 50 you have only benefited off
24:10of the fact that of whatever your race is if you've actually you've actually experienced
24:15you've actually experienced racism in your favor correct which is now something that needs to
24:19be said a whole lot more uh and and because this is a fact this
24:23is true and the supreme court has affirmed this but it's also true because it's
24:27true uh we all know that there were uh changes in policy made explicitly to
24:33put uh black and latino individuals particularly female individuals into elite universities and into elite
24:42positions in medical school and law school and into the workforce in jobs that they
24:47would not have gotten or positions that they would not have gotten um how were
24:51they of a different race white or asian particularly those are the ones that have
24:55been discriminated against this is a fact this is reality it's happened in in broad
24:59scale we all knew this and clay one of the reasons that i've always said
25:02this one of the ways that i knew that i was a conservative was i
25:05went to a scholarship high school so it was entirely free and it was very
25:10very competitive admission for the high school in new york regis many of you know
25:14the school if you're from the new york area and the average income in my
25:17class was below the average american household income so you had a lot of people
25:21who were working class i mean that was the stand it was working class kids
25:25but if you had a working class kid with great grades and really high uh
25:29test scores this was the place you could go if you were catholic it was
25:32only for catholic kids and i just remember very early on it was like well
25:37if you're here and you're black or you're latino it's basically pick your ivy league
25:40school but if you're one of the asian or white kids here you know let's
25:45see if holy cross can give you some money you know let's see uh what
25:48suny's got for you in terms of the scholarship not to throw shade at those
25:51institutions but they're not hyper elite and it was just a very different now that
25:56that wasn't true there were like 10 kids a year went to harvard for my
25:58class but the point is very different standards of it and i just said this
26:02is not right it's very straight it's a very straightforward thing i was a kid
26:06i'm like no this isn't right my friend who's uh the son of korean immigrants
26:10whose parents literally own a dry cleaner out in queens he has like perfect sats
26:15but he'll be lucky to get into like a second tier school comparatively to a
26:18kid who's black in my class that's not right there's no way to just there's
26:22no way to explain that to me where i go you know what you're right
26:25the history of discrimination this is gonna it's all crap it was all lie it
26:29was all nonsense but you see this with the no kings protest clay you have
26:32all these people for whom the one thing the one great um fear in their
26:39lives is actually personal accountability and i don't mean that in the vaguest sense i
26:43mean that in what are you doing every day are you working hard are you
26:47taking care of your people are you are you an active member of your church
26:50your synagogue your mosque whatever are you being a person of uh being a person
26:55who is dependable and who deserves respect and who's making good choices or are you
27:00a person and this is what i think the no kings rally is full of
27:02who just always wants an excuse it's always somebody else always some other fault always
27:08the whether it's the the white guy or it's the republican party or it's trump
27:13or it's a systemic racism or it's stolen land, or whatever.
27:17It's always some wine in place of action.
27:20And that's why it never gets better.
27:22Correct. And again, I would just, I think when you hear that interview, think about
27:28that in the context. I know some of you are older, but think about that
27:32in the context of the life that anyone who is basically 50 or under has
27:37lived in in America. There is no discrimination, except discrimination in your favor, if you
27:44are a minority. And so this constant victimization culture, the people who were actually victims
27:52are far less likely to claim that they are victims than the people who have
27:56actually benefited from discrimination in their favor.
27:59And I think that's because they bought into this idea, which is the root of
28:03the Democrat Party these days, where everything is based on identity politics, and you are
28:09oppressed, basically, if you're anyone other than a white male.
28:12Now, white women sometimes also are included there, but by and large, white men are
28:19evil, and we all have to assess where victimization culture should, how you rank it
28:26on the oppression pyramid. And this woman is completely bought into it.
28:30And then when you ask her, okay, what's actually happened?
28:32What, you know, what she says, black people are getting killed by medical care?
28:36Really? That would be quite a surprise.
28:39I think there are a lot of med malpractice attorneys out there that would say,
28:42hey, can I get those cases?
28:44Because if it were actually happening, it would be a tremendous boon to their practice,
28:49and there would be a lot of consequences.
28:51We'll come back, by the way, we're going to talk about with Brekka Stroll, who
28:55was actually there at the protest, see what she thought about it.
28:58And I would just reiterate, it was a tremendous success.
29:02Yesterday, they protested against kings, and today we woke up, and there are no kings.
29:07What a tremendous, incredible, impactful moment it all was.
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29:12I do indeed, but it turns out there are no kings, and also there are
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30:35All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
30:37Thanks for being with us, everybody.
30:39We have, from the Daily Wire, Brecca Stoll with us now.
30:44And thank you so much for joining.
30:46You were at a No Kings protest.
30:50Did you, in fact, find out that there is No King?
30:53What happened? Well, it's actually my third time trying to figure this out, my third
30:59No Kings rally. And, unfortunately, I go in there with the same question every time,
31:05you know, explain to me how President Trump is acting like a king.
31:08And beneath the initial rage, I'm never given a concrete answer.
31:15So what is the general vibe of the No King crowd?
31:22When you are there, what does it feel like?
31:26What is the average age?
31:27What is the makeup of these people?
31:30I mean, I think there's a lot of kind of fascination about how many people,
31:34it's a Buck's case. You should go read his book, Manufacturing Delusion, are, in fact,
31:39deluded in what they believe.
31:40But what's the vibe and what's the crowd like?
31:44They're honestly all pretty much united by a hatred for President Trump.
31:49Like you said, a lot of older people, you know, this is different from other
31:54protests that I've been to, but No Kings does seem to draw out that older
31:58crowd. You know, they have talked about, they have these kind of getting ready sessions
32:02for the protests. And in those, they always express how important it is to not
32:06be violent, to wear, you know, inflatables to help bring down the intensity of the
32:11movement with this particular protest.
32:13And, obviously, very well organized.
32:15This is our third one.
32:17You know, we had the first one in June, the next one in October, and
32:20this latest in March. And it seems to me that these protests keep being put
32:25on because they want to continue and keep this momentum of rage and just anguish
32:31against the President and allow people to keep going out there.
32:36Where does this go to you?
32:38You've been to a bunch of them now.
32:41Does this continue? Are there...
32:43They're going to be in summer protests.
32:45I mean, is this resonating, do you think, with leftists?
32:49Do they see the No Kings protest as a huge success in rallying voters?
32:53Are they going to run it all the way up through the midterms?
32:55I mean, where is this in?
32:57Because, by the way, we know that President Trump's not going to be in power
33:00again anymore in January of 2029.
33:03So, like, how long can the No Kings protest have validity?
33:08Well, to be honest, I'm surprised every time they roll out their new installment.
33:12And as Republicans typically say after one of these protests, it seems like they're successful
33:17because, you know, America still doesn't have a cane.
33:20But I did learn attending the protest there will be a national strike.
33:25So if any worker should not go to work on May 1st, and that was
33:30already being promoted, sounded like they were using that as a platform to kind of
33:34go ahead and get that message out.
33:37But what really alarmed me kind of about this protest, and I know I told
33:41you they haven't been violent, but this was actually the first time I did hear
33:44protesters alluding to the death of President Trump.
33:49I talked to one protester whose sign said, I'm waiting for the big, beautiful obituary.
33:56And then when I asked her when she thinks that might happen, she responded to
34:01me, and she said sooner rather than later, and then she started laughing, which is
34:07pretty alarming to hear, you know, against a president, really against anyone, but especially a
34:12president who has had assassination attempts, you know, on his life.
34:17So they're planning to continue with these, though?
34:21Is that the, I mean, what do the Democrats really get out of this?
34:23Is it just performative? It lets the base show up, dye their hair purple, shriek
34:28about mansplaining and stolen land and everything else?
34:31Because I've seen some stuff online, I'm sure you've dug into this, about where the
34:36funding from this comes from.
34:37It looks like very, very wealthy foundations, of course, which is just a pass -through
34:44for very wealthy left -wing individuals, are writing the checks for this stuff.
34:48So this isn't like some grassroots, oh, we're just going to get together because someone
34:52posted something on Facebook. There's a real infrastructure behind this, so clearly they're trying to
34:56do something. No, and you can see the infrastructure just because so many of the
35:01signs are the same, and I'm not necessarily talking about, like, what looks like the
35:05homemade written ones, but there are manufactured printed signs that you see over and over
35:10through the protests in Washington, D .C., in protests in Los Angeles and in New
35:15York. So it does beg the question of how they're getting there.
35:18And then I think the goal of this, because, and like you said, definitely after
35:23going, it makes you want to research these.
35:24And there's this one organization, it's called States at the Core.
35:30And the woman leading the organization, I listened to one of her interviews, and she
35:34discussed in the interviews, the guy said, when did you start organizing people and start
35:40educating them on how to protest and how to, you know, kind of get out
35:44in front of the public and express their anguish with President Trump?
35:47And she said that they started organizing right before the 2024 election when it looked
35:53like President Trump was going to win.
35:56And that made me question if he hadn't won, would they even have had a
36:01reason to organize at all?
36:03Or so it just shows you that this is really against President Trump and not
36:08necessarily any issues that they may have, you know, with a president on maybe the
36:13Democrat side who's doing something that they might have a problem with or think is
36:17too authoritarian. Where does this, I want to go back again to who these people
36:24are. You're talking about what their motivation is, who might be funding them.
36:28You're relatively young. Buck and I are in our 40s.
36:32Would you say the average protest, and typically we tend to think of protesters as
36:38being younger, but Buck and I were up for the inauguration of Trump and we
36:43drove by one of the anti -Trump protests at that inauguration and it was filled
36:47with a lot of people older than us.
36:50What do you think the average age is?
36:51Is it people in their 50s, people in their 40s?
36:54It's certainly not people in their 20s or 30s and certainly not many teenagers.
37:00And how does that potentially implicate to you what's going on, who's being motivated?
37:07No, I would definitely say average age is 50s, 60s.
37:11I watched a clip of leftist influencer Harry Sasson on CNN and he was talking
37:17about kind of the youth behind this movement and his interview was behind the protest,
37:22which showed a bunch of older individuals behind him.
37:26And I definitely see this at No Kings rallies, but I think the problem that
37:31people are missing with this is, yes, at these rallies, it is older people, but
37:36this message, this anti -Trump message is resonating with younger people, you know, who are
37:41maybe have plans on Saturday, are, you know, at working on Saturday, aren't in retirement
37:47and have time or don't have time to go to these protests.
37:50And you've got this, Republicans should be nervous coming into midterms if this message is
37:55resonating with younger Americans, because, you know, I saw at No Kings and some of
37:59these signs go viral that President Trump isn't following through on his promise of affordability.
38:05And when you have that being publicized and people thinking, wow, like, look at this,
38:10you know, These thousands of people who've come around the country who say that this
38:14isn't happening and then they maybe feel it, they feel that inflation, which, you know,
38:18rose under Joe Biden around, you know, 20 percent cumulatively, maybe that message starts to
38:24resonate. And so I think that these groups of people, they are older, they do
38:30have, you know, are upset with President Trump.
38:33But because this is such a big event on social media time after time and
38:38people keep it so current, I do think it allows young people on social media
38:42to see this messaging and then potentially leave them questioning things heading into that midterm
38:48risk. So there may be maybe some success, it sounds like, from this for the
38:55Democrats, even though when we sit here, it's hard for, I think, a serious person
38:58to take this seriously, Brekka.
39:00But as I as I look at this, they're clearly continuing with it the same
39:05way that Democrats continued in the in the midterm with Biden to push the the
39:11issue of threats to our democracy by having all those hearings about January 6th.
39:16I think for people that see the world normally, a no kings protest is on
39:21its face absurd, but it's a Democrat mobilization technique.
39:24Right. It's it's Saul Alinsky.
39:26Get people out there in the streets shouting and screaming about something that makes them
39:29feel good and powerful and like they're doing something worthwhile.
39:33And then you can get them to do other things you want, like show up
39:36in the midterms and vote.
39:37Yes. And I think that will prove ultimately, like you said, that whether this movement
39:42has been successful, because, yes, they've been able to coordinate getting a ton of retirees
39:48out on the street on a Saturday.
39:49But are they actually getting them to vote on these issues?
39:53And so definitely will be interesting to see if this does become ultimately successful.
39:59And then to your point on everything going on under President Biden, very interesting because
40:05no one was protesting when, you know, Vice President Kamala Harris won that Democrat nominee
40:11without a single vote in the primary and people still protesting President Trump, a duly
40:17elected president, you know, steps away from the nation's capital, exercising that free right and
40:25saying that he's a king, which we know if that really was the case, no
40:28one would be allowed to do that.
40:30And we're able to see that around the country.
40:32And I even had one man, he was just touring the Lincoln Memorial.
40:36And, you know, I took a break from protesters and asked him, what do you
40:39think about all of this?
40:40And he couldn't believe it because he said President Trump isn't a king.
40:44You know, he's not perfect, but you've got to compare it to other countries.
40:48And when you look at other countries, he literally said the United States is probably
40:53the most democratic society out there.
40:55Do you feel safe? If these things are going to continue, you said people are
40:59going to call out, not work on May 1st.
41:02Do you feel safe at this event?
41:04Do obviously you're representing the Daily Wire.
41:07We know that there have been people from Fox News, for instance, during Minneapolis where
41:11the reporters were being taunted.
41:14Do you feel safe interviewing people?
41:16What is the vibe like for you?
41:20Ben, I go out there to different protests.
41:23I actually, at New King's, like you said, when you're surrounded by older people in
41:27inflatable costumes, you know, you feel like you're safe.
41:31Like you can, if something were to happen, you can handle yourself.
41:35I, the protest at nighttime that I've attended or just in an area where there
41:40isn't as much police presence, you know, we have the National Guard here.
41:43So whenever I'm interviewing a protester in D .C., the National Guard is a few
41:49steps away. And so if something were to go wrong, I know that they would
41:54jump in and be able to help the situation.
41:56And I do, there are times where after people get upset when they find out
42:01I'm at the Daily Wire.
42:03And that's when they ask me, and they typically ask me, you know, what outlet
42:06I'm with after I have given a follow -up, which I view as a very
42:10fair follow -up to what some of the things they've told me are.
42:13You know, when one woman was explaining to me how her rights were taken away
42:18as an African American woman.
42:20We played that cut a little bit earlier on the show.
42:23So that's a good one to give us an idea about.
42:26Yes. And so, you know, a fair follow -up, in my opinion, what rights of
42:30yours are being taken away?
42:31And then immediately, what outlet are you with?
42:35And I, it just always blows my mind that a simple question of just, you
42:38know, explain, elaborate on your thoughts immediately then puts me in question.
42:43And then her ultimately then, you know, saying that maybe I don't have the right
42:47to be there as the press.
42:49Brecca, this is very important for your physical safety when you're at these things going
42:54forward. I just want you to know, if you've ever seen a vampire movie, you
42:57know how when you hold up a crucifix, they, you just need a pocket constitution
43:02and you hold that up and it's just like in the vampire movies where you
43:06hold up, so you hold up the pocket constitution.
43:07Also, if you have, and not garlic, but red meat, they hate red meat.
43:12So if you just carry a little, a little ground beef in your pocket and
43:16a pocket constitution, they will shriek and, and catch on fire and run away like
43:21vampires. So you will be safe at these No Kings protests.
43:24We've got your back. Oh, thank you so much.
43:28And, you know, it was funny.
43:29Our, um, I was out there with another, uh, Daily Wire employee and then he
43:33had his MAGA hat, which he put on towards the end of the protest as
43:37we were leaving. And. immediately that made them flee as well so yeah that's also
43:42it also works it also works bregis stole a stole at the daily wire great
43:47work come back next time you do one of these protests and if clay loses
43:50a bet to me he might be out there with you by the way so
43:52we're looking forward to that yeah that may be happening thank you thank you so
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45:26out with us we are joined by former senator a incredible success story in business
45:30and current member of the trump administration kelly loffler she's the head of the sba
45:36and let's let we're going to have you here for a couple of segments welcome
45:39in i'm glad to have you in studio here it's a great honor to be
45:42with you yeah so we're we're testing it out so we'll see how it goes
45:46hopefully this is going to work well going forward you can watch it on video
45:49and let us know what you think um let's start here uh small business is
45:54the backbone of american life in general the number of small business owners that are
46:00listening to us right now i bet is massive uh what are you seeing as
46:05you travel the nation because i think you've been to the vast majority of states
46:08since you took over about the overall economic climate and what do you anticipate the
46:13impact of the big beautiful bill being for so many small businesses out there well
46:17you're exactly right clay uh small business is the backbone of our nation and president
46:21trump knows that he always says small business is big business and the american people
46:27know that they have put their trust in small businesses as an institution is ranked
46:32number one in america for trust far above any other so -called institution be it
46:38congress or education or media because small businesses get it done and i want to
46:44thank every single small business owner out there every small business employee because they make
46:49our main streets work and thanks to president trump trump's economic agenda it's coming back
46:54because look what we've done we've passed massive tax cuts that now small businesses have
46:59permanent expensing 100 expensing to continue to invest and hire i have traveled across the
47:05country uh probably 15 17 states this year already about 40 states last year what
47:12i see is a tremendous uh economic boom happening in the manufacturing space and why
47:18is that so positive because manufacturing jobs are good paying jobs they make our main
47:23street strong main streets coming back and then we have massive deregulation because president trump
47:28knows and i know from growing up in a small family business that that crushes
47:32small business owners when they're dealing with paperwork bureaucracy and red tape let me ask
47:36you about one of those particular topics you just mentioned because i think people maybe
47:40don't understand how it can impact them a hundred percent expensing small business uh people
47:47who have to purchase expensive property to do their jobs understand that why does that
47:52matter so much though for business in general in terms of accelerating growth yeah so
47:57first of all the working family tax cut was really powerful for small business not
48:02just in making the tax rate permanent the 20 percent pass through the 199 deduction
48:07but 179 expensing uh bonus depreciation expansion uh 100 expensing on r &d manufacturing made
48:18in america all these things are critical because that lets a business owner write off
48:23100 of the cost of a capital expenditure or r &d in year one it
48:29frees up tremendous cash flow because if you make an investment in a piece of
48:33equipment well now you've got to hire a worker to help you with that equipment
48:36but you have all your capital tied up in the equipment now they can buy
48:40the piece of equipment have a hundred percent write down against their income taxes and
48:45hire multiple workers and so it's really generative in terms of economic growth you met
48:51with the vice president's fraud task force uh just recently i think on friday how
48:58much one of the things that i love about business is ultimately you got to
49:02either make money or you lose money and everybody has to make payroll you've been
49:05through this a lot of our listeners out there have been through it.
49:08When you see the amount of fraud and the reports that are coming out, how
49:13frustrating is it? How much do you think the Trump administration and this particular fraud
49:18task force can do to address it?
49:20Well, first of all, we're going to do a lot.
49:22It's incredibly frustrating to know that up to a half a trillion dollars a year
49:28is wasted, according to the GAO's own reports on the federal government.
49:33Now, what this administration is doing, and I'm grateful that Vice President Vance is leading
49:38this task force because he's a doer.
49:39He's come from the private sector, like many of us in the cabinet who understand
49:43a small business could never run with this mismanagement, with this fraud and abuse of
49:48programs. At the SBA, we found $200 billion of COVID era fraud that the Biden
49:54administration either tried to forgive or sweep it under the rug, thinking no one would
49:58ever come after and look for it.
50:00Well, this is happening at HHS, USDA, HUD, and we are going to have results.
50:05And we know that taxpayers deserve to see people in bars, behind bars, and to
50:11have deterrence, not just to have people go to jail, but to make sure that
50:14this never happens again, because we could substantially cut our debt and deficit by attacking
50:20simply the fraud and abuse in government.
50:22Let me tell people out there listening, if you have any questions you'd like for
50:25me to ask Kelly Loeffler here in studio with me, at Clay Travis on Twitter
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51:38Tons of questions rolling in.
51:40I'm going to get to some of these in a moment.
51:44But let's start. We were just talking about fraud.
51:46And that is one of the primary tenets of a lot of these questions coming
51:51in. Particularly, we're talking with a small business administration head, Kelly Loeffler from the Trump
51:56administration, from the Trump cabinet.
51:59She is in studio here with me.
52:01Buck is traveling to do meetings with advertisers and supporters of the show right now.
52:07He'll be back with me tomorrow at the top of the show.
52:10So much questions about blue state fraud in particular and what we are seeing in
52:16California and the fact that there is now this fraud panel that is being chaired
52:21by the vice president designed to crack down on it.
52:24Are you even in your position?
52:27You've been to roughly 40 states now to work on small business issues.
52:31Are even you stunned by the degree of fraud that we are seeing in blue
52:36states from California to Minnesota and beyond?
52:39Well, Clay, I think what's stunning about it is the fact that the prior administration,
52:44the Biden administration, not only didn't do anything about what is potentially a quarter trillion
52:50or a half trillion dollars worth of fraud annually in the federal budget, but that
52:54they they refused to do anything and they helped promote it through their liberal socialist
53:00programs. And that is nowhere more apparent than in blue states.
53:04So take two of the states that we've looked at at the SBA.
53:08When the Somali fraud rings were exposed last year, we immediately went to work, looked
53:14at it, found about 7 ,000 borrowers in Minneapolis, in Minnesota that we suspended.
53:21We went over and looked at California.
53:24We suspended 111 ,000 borrowers in the state that had committed upwards of $10 billion
53:31worth of fraud that the Biden administration tried to overlook.
53:34This is hard earned taxpayer dollars that have been stolen from the American people.
53:40We now have an administration, thanks to President Trump and Vice President Vance, that has
53:44the will and the ability and is putting the resources behind prosecution and then going
53:49forward, stopping it from happening again.
53:52We've made a lot of changes at the SBA.
53:54One of them is banning foreign nationals from getting SBA loans.
53:57That has never been done in the history of the SBA.
54:01Now, L .A. County wants to sue me for doing that because they're completely America
54:05last. But this is what it means to stand up and put America first, is
54:10to make sure Americans are put to the front of the line and that their
54:14assets are protected, especially small business owners.
54:16This is an interesting question.
54:18I don't know if you've ever dealt with this particular angle before, but the SBA
54:24relationship to FEMA. The question is from one of our listeners, Dello, and he's saying
54:30that during his time running his small business out of a home that a lot
54:35of times damages to homes and FEMA interactions and everything else.
54:39Small businesses are frequently run out of homes and then so home damages become significant.
54:43How does that interplay work?
54:45Yeah, you're exactly right. And, you know, FEMA is generally a program that is directed
54:51at the state's response. They do have a limited individual benefit response.
54:56The SBA is different in that we run the largest government -backed lending for disaster
55:05recovery. So we can lend up to a couple million dollars in a disaster for
55:09that individual to come back low cost, low interest rate, about 3 .5 % 30
55:15-year loans for disaster recovery.
55:16That's something that we attempted to do out in California, for example, after the wildfires
55:21over a year ago. But, of course, the bureaucrats and Newsom and Bass can't get
55:27out of the way. And so they have about 15 ,000 residents that have lost
55:30their homes and can't rebuild.
55:32Another question from American Rufus.
55:36A huge percentage of small businesses are sole proprietors.
55:40That is one - and two -man operations.
55:42How much can you focus?
55:44That is the smallest of small businesses.
55:46How do you grow those into bigger business?
55:49And, by the way, what actually qualifies as small business?
55:52Because the goal, obviously, is to grow small business into big businesses, as many people
55:56have done. What's that universe like?
55:58Yeah, so small business, the reason it makes up 99 % of all businesses is
56:02because they can be almost medium size.
56:03We haven't really changed the definition for a long time.
56:07But it's 500 employees and fewer for non -manufacturing businesses.
56:12And for manufacturers, you can have up to 1 ,500 employees, which is why 98
56:16% of all of America's manufacturers are small business and about a $5 million top
56:21line. But it could go up much more for manufacturers.
56:24That's for sure. But, look, small business lending under President Trump has hit all -time
56:30records. We put out over $100 billion last year at the SBA for the first
56:34time ever. These are zero subsidy.
56:36So I will tell you that we are the most free enterprise government agency in
56:40the federal government because they're not backed by taxpayer money.
56:44The banks pay a guarantee fee to cover the cost.
56:47And we put out 60 % of our lending to businesses of five or fewer
56:52employees. So that is a huge and growing piece because of AI.
56:56We're going to see solopreneur companies really boom thanks to the efficiencies of AI.
57:02So I think it's growing.
57:03How optimistic are you about AI's impact?
57:07You just said the vast majority of businesses in America are small businesses.
57:11What are you seeing as you've been to 40 -some -odd states about the ability
57:15of these companies to become more efficient with AI?
57:18And how optimistic are you about what that's going to do to help grow and
57:23increase profitability? Well, I'm incredibly optimistic now that President Trump is ensuring that America leads
57:30in AI. Just imagine if China were leading in AI.
57:34This is table stakes for us to compete internationally and defend our national security.
57:40So you think about the automation coming into manufacturing.
57:43We're going to be able to reshore whole industries.
57:46And I've seen it firsthand.
57:48I've walked factories with 60 people in them that are reshoring businesses that we had
57:53lost to China years ago because of advanced manufacturing, robotic welding, AI.
57:59And so I'm incredibly optimistic that this is not only a force multiplier, but this
58:04is going to be an increasingly important competitive weapon to become the dominant manufacturing superpower
58:11in the world. A title which we gave away 40 years ago, and the president
58:16in 1987, before he was President Trump, he was private citizen Donald J.
58:21Trump, was running full -page ads saying our policies can be fixed by someone that
58:27has a backbone. And that turns out to be him.
58:29He was prescient. He's been completely convicted that we must have manufacturing in America.
58:36That's what he was fighting for 40 years ago, and now we're finally getting it
58:39back. Mary writes, and I'm sure this is something you think about all the time.
58:43And by the way, thank you to all the questions that are rolling in here
58:45as we're talking to a small business administration head, Kelly Loeffler, here in the Nashville
58:50studio. Thank you for all you're doing and also what the administration and the cabinet
58:55are doing. How much time can you spend trying to get good messaging out when
59:01so much from the legacy media is focused on the negative side associated with everything?
59:07It's just such a great question, and thank you for that.
59:10Because, look, the American people know they're being lied to by the legacy media.
59:15They absolutely know it. And that is why I spend most of my time on
59:20the road. I have spent my entire 14 months on the job traveling around, meeting
59:28with hardworking Americans, doing local media, talking to folks through great podcasts like this, because
59:34we have to get the story out.
59:36We have such a capable cabinet.
59:38We have the best communicator in the world as the president, and I'm excited.
59:42I've been out on the road with Vice President Vance as well so frequently, and
59:46he's going to be continuing to get out more.
59:47So we are just getting started on the messaging, and I think her questions are
59:52really important one that we all take very much to heart.
59:55By the way, this cabinet works so hard because we are so inspired.
1:00:01by our president and the work that he's doing and there's no better person to
1:00:06connect with the American people than him.
1:00:08A lot of people out there involved in farming listening to us right now, particularly
1:00:13in rural communities. I know there was just a big farming event that was directly
1:00:17involved with things that the SBA is trying to do to help there.
1:00:21What in particular can you say to people out there in the farming community about
1:00:26what you're trying to do and what the administration is working on?
1:00:29Well, Clay, I'm glad you asked.
1:00:31I'm from a five -generation family farm, grew up working in the fields, and shout
1:00:35out to my brother and nephew, Brian and Colin, who are probably in the fields
1:00:39right now. I was honored to join the president and Secretary Brooke Rollins at the
1:00:43White House last Friday, and we've partnered a lot with USDA at the SBA because
1:00:49farmers are our original small businesses in America.
1:00:53And so the Trump administration has stood with the American farmer from day one to
1:00:57make sure that they have the ability to come back from this horrible green news
1:01:02scam that forced them to have diesel exhaust fluid pumped into their trucks and tractors
1:01:09and semis and so forth.
1:01:11We're rolling back those DEF requirements.
1:01:14The SBA came out with the grocery guarantee, which provides a 90 percent government guarantee
1:01:19on everything from farming to fishing to trucking to processing to make sure that our
1:01:26food supply is strengthened and that we start to bring down prices.
1:01:30And then things like E15, to have year -round E15, which is so important to
1:01:34our heartland, to produce crops that fuel our nation.
1:01:38The list goes on. Right to repair.
1:01:40This is something that if you have a tractor, you could face thousands of dollars
1:01:45of downtime trying to get the implement into the equipment repair when you could fix
1:01:51it yourself. So this president, this EPA, USDA, SBA, we are on the side of
1:01:56the American farmer like never before.
1:01:58And these are people who put it all on the line every day, literally seven
1:02:01days a week. No one works harder.
1:02:03And it's such a great honor to serve rural America.
1:02:06A big part. We got a couple of questions about this.
1:02:09People who own small businesses trying to pass it on to heirs, particularly farmers, the
1:02:13inheritance tax and how that can destroy a life's worth.
1:02:17You've mentioned five generations for you.
1:02:19What is the latest that the president and his team and you guys have been
1:02:22working on to try to allow people, like you said, the vast majority of businesses
1:02:26as defined by this, under 500 employees by and large, are small businesses so families
1:02:32can keep those businesses in -house?
1:02:33Well, this is something that the Trump administration ended through the working families tax cut.
1:02:39I mean, this is really confiscation when you think about the onerous tax that, I
1:02:43mean, I watched my parents have to pay thousands of dollars when we were barely
1:02:48making ends meet just to have an insurance policy in case something happened, a life
1:02:52insurance that happened to some to them, they would have to sell the farm if
1:02:56they didn't have life insurance to cover the proceeds of the tax owed in the
1:03:02case of death. I mean, this is, this is truly transformative for farming, for small
1:03:07businesses to be able to ensure those family, those generational businesses that make our main
1:03:13streets work, whether you're a rural or urban community.
1:03:16And so this is just another example.
1:03:18But this is what Democrats do.
1:03:19They tax and spend and confiscate hardworking Americans, the sweat of their brow, equity in
1:03:27their businesses. And so that's, that's what the president and Republicans in Congress did was
1:03:32to protect small business by ending the death tax.
1:03:35Uh, last question for you.
1:03:37And this has been awesome.
1:03:38Appreciate you coming out to the studio here.
1:03:40You're a big time sports fan.
1:03:41We're in the middle of March madness, final fours being set left and right.
1:03:47Um, also the Olympics came out and said, Hey, men who are identifying as women
1:03:52are no longer going to be able to, uh, to compete.
1:03:56So two part for you, how's the bracket looking and how are you enjoying, uh,
1:04:00March madness, uh, transpiring? And, um, this is direct result.
1:04:04I think of the president's statements on men and women's sports that the Olympics has
1:04:09now come out and said no more with this, your thoughts on both.
1:04:12Well, first of all, I was the first U S Senator in history to introduce
1:04:16protecting girls sports in 2020 on the Senate floor.
1:04:19It's a common sense idea that got a lot of pushback and saying it wasn't
1:04:22a problem. Well, clearly it was a problem.
1:04:24You know, six years later, we know it was devastating.
1:04:27Finally, the Olympic committee has come around to that.
1:04:29Um, but look, I'm still on a high from the team USA hockey win.
1:04:34So I can't, you know, I think we have millions of new hockey fans in
1:04:38the country. So I'm really glad they did that.
1:04:40But unfortunately there's so much work to do in this country still on protecting girls
1:04:45sports. And I'm so glad there's fighters, uh, up with me in Washington doing it.
1:04:49Uh, and then the other thing, the bracket, I mean, I'm, I'm an Illini.
1:04:52I graduated from there in the back in the 1900s.
1:04:55And, uh, and when I was a freshman there, we went to the final four,
1:04:59we had player Kendall Kendall, Kendall Gill.
1:05:01He ended up in the NBA.
1:05:03Um, I'm, I'm thrilled with how it's looking.
1:05:06And I, I just hope for my nephew that Ellen and I, the Illini come
1:05:09out on top. So it's been a good season.
1:05:11They'll be playing UConn after the miracle shot they hit to beat Duke.
1:05:14And then on the other side, you've got, uh, Arizona going up against Michigan.
1:05:19Uh, we appreciate the time.
1:05:20I know how busy you are running all over the place.
1:05:22Uh, and thank you guys out there for the questions.
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