Hour 3 - RFK Jr.: Take Back Your Health!

4/7/202637 mincomplete

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast.
0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome, everybody. Third hour of the Clay, Travis, and Buck Sexton show gets
0:10going right now. And Clay, I thought this would be a fun one to do
0:13instead of just focusing relentlessly on Iran, which we are very much dialed into.
0:18But there's only so much that can be said about it right now.
0:21We know we have an HPM Eastern deadline tonight laid out by President Trump in
0:26which he said, more or less, concede to the Trump administration's demands, Iranian regime, or
0:33your civilization will be ended on the other side of things, the other side of
0:38the world, the other side of the moon, perhaps.
0:41Artemis II. Here is Trump.
0:43This is cut eight. He is greeting the Artemis II crew after they have returned
0:48from behind the far side of the moon.
0:52Here's how it went. Play eight.
0:53Hello. Very special hello to Artemis II.
0:56Today, you've made history and made all America really proud, incredibly proud.
1:01We have a lot of things to be proud of lately, but there's nothing like
1:06what you're doing circling around the moon for the first time in more than a
1:09half a century and breaking the all -time record for the farthest distance from planet
1:14Earth. Humans have really never seen anything quite like what you're doing.
1:19Your mission paves the way for America's return to the lunar surface very soon.
1:26We're going all out. We're doing everything we can, and it's headed up by Jared.
1:30We'll plant our flag once again, and this time we won't just leave footprints.
1:35We'll establish a permanent presence on the moon, and we'll push on to Mars.
1:42Clay, it's actually very exciting what's going on.
1:45I know there's a lot of focus on other things, but it's another small step
1:52from man and other mankind.
1:54You know what I mean.
1:55You know the quote. It's one of those.
1:57Yeah. Look, I know we said this yesterday, and every time I mention it, people
2:03are mad at me in the mentions.
2:05I think this is an awesome story.
2:06Three, we have now sent humans farther from Earth than ever in the history of
2:13our civilization. That seems pretty awesome to me, and I understand people out there are
2:18not excited about the idea of trying to have a moon base or trying to
2:23colonize Mars. Some of you are not excited about that.
2:26I actually think it is incredibly important.
2:29Look, this country, if you want me to get on a soapbox, was founded on
2:33the idea of frontiers, of always going to the next horizon, of always trying to
2:41create something better than what came before it.
2:44I would say that is our national DNA, and that is why this country has
2:48thrived when other countries have collapsed.
2:52I think exploration, now we have to explore in space, but certainly you can explore
2:58at the bottom of the oceans, and you can explore at the top of the
3:01mountains, but I feel like we have a pretty good sense for what is now
3:05here on Earth. Space is the next exploration for humanity, and so I think extending
3:13what we're capable of is significant to say nothing, Buck, of the fact that many
3:18of our great technological innovations come about by trying to press the horizon forward when
3:25it comes to humanity being able to go into space.
3:29In other words, the space age fibers which we create legitimately aid us in many
3:34other different aspects of life here, and I believe, look, this is me getting on
3:39my, you know, kind of further soapbox, that SpaceX in particular and Starlink and all
3:46these other entities that are now space -based are going to make civilization on Earth
3:52much better. So I've been following Artemis 2.
3:56I think it is, we had last week Jared Isaacman on.
4:00I think this is a significant achievement for mankind, and I don't see it in
4:05this era where we're talking about what's going to happen in Iran.
4:08I think it's worth pausing and saying, hey, this is kind of a big deal.
4:12This is something we should all be proud of, and I think the astronauts themselves,
4:16we played Victor Glover the other day, I actually think they've been pretty eloquent advocates
4:21for the importance of space exploration, and many of their answers to, you know, questions
4:27have gone viral as a result that are very positive.
4:30Here's Trump continuing with his chat with the Artemis 2 crew.
4:34This is cut 10 from the Commander -in -Chief.
4:37Here he is. I really look forward to, when we can, I look forward to
4:41seeing you in the Oval Office.
4:43I'll ask Jared to bring you over, and I'll ask for your autograph, because I
4:48don't really ask for autographs much, but you deserve that.
4:51You really are something. Everybody's talking about this.
4:54And I look forward to having you in the Oval Office at the White House,
4:58and we will celebrate your incredible achievements and triumphs.
5:03This is big, this is really big stuff.
5:05The whole world is talking about it, and if you have the time, I will
5:09certainly find the time. I've been pretty busy also, as you know, but I will
5:13absolutely find the time, and we'll get together, and I'm going to be giving you
5:19a big salute on behalf of the American people and beyond that.
5:22Thank you for that, Mr.
5:24President. Thank you for that, Mr.
5:24President. When you want us, we will be there.
5:27Clay, one of the last groups, it seems, around, last occupations, last cultural heroes that
5:37feel like they're still a bipartisan high -five can go out to them, and it's
5:43not about, it is about the greatness of mankind and scientific achievement and exploration and
5:48whatever, astronauts. I feel like people still like astronauts.
5:53There hasn't been a, you know, I don't know about people in lab coats who
5:57are like, turn and cough, give me your knee, let's check your reflexes, ever since
6:02Fauci. Doctors have gone in for some rough stuff, but astronauts people like.
6:07That's a great question. I think astronauts probably number one.
6:11What are like the top two or three professions that people still hold in high
6:16esteem? Astronaut might be number one, where you just, you know, kind of, I think
6:20military and police are still very high in the general population.
6:25Cops are very, that's, cops can go very much both ways in our culture.
6:29They've come back now after being attacked for a long time.
6:32I think military typically rate very highly.
6:36This is also fun. I don't know if you've seen some on social media.
6:41I saw a funny comment.
6:42I don't remember who to attribute it to, but it was very funny that the
6:46flat earthers are like the conspiracy.
6:49They're one of the few conspiracists to actually get blown up.
6:52You know, it's hard to still be a flat earther.
6:55I think on now that we've sent astronauts again and we're getting, I think it
6:58was always hard. I said this on the show.
7:01I said, what happens to all those guys now?
7:03What, what, what becomes of the.
7:06I tell you what they're moving on to.
7:07They're saying that these are all fake.
7:09Well, this is what I, they have to.
7:11Yeah. It's, it's fake all over again.
7:13It's actually like wag the dog for Trump's Iran debacle or something like that.
7:17It has to be because you can never, the thing about getting deep into the
7:22conspiracy is that the conspiracy can never end.
7:24The whole fun of it is that you have no accountability for being wrong and
7:28you know something that no one else knows.
7:30There's always more information to prove that you're right.
7:33So the conspiracy can never be proven wrong.
7:36So this is going to go dark.
7:39Because we were, that, I would say that was a lot of light.
7:41We're trying to have a nice, nice light space conversation.
7:42I know, I know we were having, we were having a lot of light and
7:44a lot of positivity about space.
7:48I think that, and I said this the other day at a public forum and
7:52I don't know if it got picked up or not, but I think I've said
7:54it on the show before if I haven't.
7:57Some people should get bankrupted for the things that they say.
8:02And some of you out there are going to say, well, Clay, what about free
8:05speech? You can believe in free speech, but free speech does not mean that it's
8:09freedom from consequence. And some of the things that I see online, and I'll use
8:18as an example the idea, like if you made your entire world based on the
8:23idea that, hey, flat earth is going to exist, you mentioned the idea of, hey,
8:27the world's going to come to an end tomorrow.
8:29And you get a lot of attention.
8:30People have done this for generations.
8:32They've said, hey, the world's going to end tomorrow.
8:34And then the day comes, world doesn't end, and then you get up the next
8:38day, and unless you pull into Jonestown, you get everybody to commit suicide with you,
8:42which is a super dark element of this.
8:45Have we ever talked about the reasonabalists on the show?
8:48I feel like I've mentioned this years and years ago, but I don't know if
8:50you and I were. I don't think so.
8:51I don't know that. Well, aren't you curious about the group known as the reasonabalists?
8:56Yes. And this is from the TV show Parks and Rec, which was, I think,
9:01an NBC sitcom, which I've seen.
9:04I saw all the episodes of it.
9:06There are some people who say that I even look like one of the actors
9:08from the show. And I would disagree with that, but it is something that I
9:13hear. But that's a show, and there is a group that meets in the park
9:18that every year to celebrate the end of the world and the aliens coming to
9:24take everybody, and they call themselves the reasonabalists because how can you argue with people
9:30who are the reasonabalists? But every year they have to, and this is like the
9:34joke on the show, every year they have to come up with why it wasn't
9:38the end of the world.
9:39And that's true of a lot of people in the conspiracy mindset.
9:42No matter what you provide to them, it's, oh, you're in on it, oh, there's
9:47more, oh, that's fake. And that's true of the flat earth, fake moon landing people
9:53as well. You'll never, the fun of the game is that they just get to
9:56make it up as they go along, and they're smarter than everybody else, right?
9:59It's really more of a psychological posture than it is actually an analysis of what's
10:02real and what's not. But when you are proven objectively to be wrong, and that
10:09objectively being wrong has no consequences for you, and even worse than that, it is
10:15rewarded because you make more money than you otherwise would.
10:20And I'm not talking about opinion, right?
10:22You know, what should happen in Iran, that is largely opinion -based, right?
10:27Everybody can have whatever opinion they want.
10:30But there are some things that are 1 billion percent untrue.
10:36For instance, today, I saw, as I'm going around social media, it is now trending
10:42that Trump is responsible for Charlie Kirk being murdered.
10:46That is a new argument that is out there that some people are going to
10:51make a lot of money.
10:52And I'm going out of that way.
10:52We'll be right back. arguing in favor of and i just look around and you
10:57and i were talking about this off air that i think these conspiracies on charlie
11:01kirk in particular have so taken root buck that i'm saying this as if i
11:05was an attorney his defense this tyler robinson i believe is his name the charged
11:12uh killer of charlie kirk his defense is going to come out of this internet
11:18cesspool and it is going to be that he was set up and they are
11:22going to argue in front of the courts and everything else his i didn't do
11:27this i was set up it was donald trump it was israel it was erica
11:34kirk it was all these different people that clearly had nothing to do with charlie
11:38kirk's assassination and there is such a feverdom in the social media space that there
11:45is going to be an actual murder defense that is rooted on these lies and
11:51buck here's what's scary to me it might work there might be all you need
11:56is one member of that jury who is a self -conspiracist that's right and and
12:02believes this stuff i look i get people the stuff that's proliferating on the internet
12:07on the right these days you know i'm going to tell you guys this my
12:10book and i'm sorry clay clay's been very patient with me pushing the book all
12:13the time but i mean they dropped the price recently clay manufacturing no it's a
12:16great deal even better one uh one part of the book though that uh i
12:20in retrospect people ask me can this affect the right the stuff that i talk
12:25about which has completely overtaken the left okay and we would go through on the
12:29clan i talk about this on a daily basis on the show the the men
12:32and women's sports things and the uh you know the climate change which you don't
12:36really hear about very much anymore but it's like the biggest threat in the world
12:39and all all the the fauci you know vaccine take it or you're gonna die
12:44madness all these things the left went nuts okay and the left made itself nuts
12:48and that's a big thing people ask me clay they say can the same stuff
12:51happen on the right and the answer is yeah it's happening it didn't really happen
12:55when i was writing the book which is why it's not in there but i
12:58might have to come back to this now and be like hey guys this can
13:01be a problem on our side too people can manufacture delusions on the right as
13:05well and when you're having people say that donald trump had one of his and
13:11somebody was effectively like an adopted son to him you know what i can't even
13:14say it on the air can't even say it's like too gross to even say
13:17honestly it's just so but this is i think it is at some point there
13:21are no consequences and worse than consequences there's actually reward for insanity um in media
13:30and i think it's now the fever pitch there is going to legitimately lead to
13:37a defense in a court is going to be he didn't do it this was
13:41all one big conspiracy and my concern is that one of the 12 jurors in
13:45utah is going to be susceptible to this argument and might well uh buy it
13:50do you remember the westboro baptist church oh yeah we're just the the disgusting disgusting
13:57just slovenly moral cretin mess of the westboro and they would show up at soldiers
14:05funerals and say the worst imaginable things now do they have a first amendment right
14:09uh you know i mean where are they are they on private property is it
14:13but you know on the roads or something yeah they have a first amendment right
14:16but it was such such a clearly disgusting thing people that are saying that charlie
14:20kirk uh that people who were either his wife or his dear friends or the
14:24trump administration had anything to do with any it's up there with west westboro baptist
14:28church stuff it is it's that level of like come on that's just disgusting so
14:34you know people have said why don't we get into this because we don't want
14:36to get into the muck we want to talk about what's really happening but i
14:39mean clay's telling me this is trending right now on on twitter guys now i
14:44don't need to say this to any of you because you're listening to us because
14:46you don't like the crazy idiocy you like real people with real thoughts who are
14:50leading happy and successful lives who appreciate and love all of you and want to
14:54bring you the truth but there's a lot of nonsense out there right now on
14:57the right there's a lot of it you got to watch out it's not just
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16:05clay travis buck sexton show a lot of callers out there still wanting to react
16:10to a variety of different topics let's go ken in louisville kentucky ken what you
16:15got for us hello guys good to talk to you Paul or that you had
16:21of you back. He and anyone else that feels that way about sitting out elections,
16:28well, their memory must not be working or they're just fools.
16:32I can clearly remember the eight years of Obama and I can remember the four
16:38years of Biden. And it's a stark difference to what President Trump has done in
16:45his two four -year terms.
16:47And what scares me with the upcoming elections is either people like Tyler or just
16:54the general apathy of American voters.
16:57You guys have occasionally talked about our governor.
17:04Oh, gosh, his name now, Bashir.
17:06Andy Bashir. Yeah. Yes. Andy Bashir.
17:09When he beat Matt Bevins, the incumbent, the first time he beat Matt Bevins by
17:16about 5 ,600 votes. Now, in his reelection, he went against Daniel Cameron.
17:24If Daniel Cameron had received the same number of votes that Matt Bevins received when
17:33he lost to Bashir, Daniel Cameron would be the governor of Kentucky now.
17:44Yep. No, thank you for the call.
17:46We've got a break to hit, but showing up matters.
17:49And if you're not willing to show up, it's hard to argue that you are
17:53angry about whatever the outcomes might be.
17:56The bare minimum is show up and vote.
17:58Now, it's going to be hard to get people out because midterms always are.
18:01We'll talk about that. Take some more of your calls.
18:03Actually, RFK Jr. is going to join us at the bottom of this hour.
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18:51Clay. Welcome back in to Clay and Buck.
18:55We are joined now by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F.
18:58Kennedy Jr. Mr. Secretary, great to have you on the program.
19:02Thanks for making the time for us.
19:05Thank you very, very much for having me.
19:07You got two guys here who are middle -aged, got kids, and trying to up
19:11their health game in a big way.
19:12So I'm going to tell you, we are, and this audience is, very dialed in
19:16to the Maha agenda. Can I just first ask you, because, look, we got a
19:21war in Iran. We got some big things happening.
19:23Haven't heard that much about what's going on from your side of the equation, from
19:30Maha world lately. Can you bring everyone up to speed with what has been done
19:34in 2026, or what are the biggest wins so far since you've taken the helm
19:39at HHS that people need to know about?
19:42Well, I mean, last week alone, we got agreements from hospitals around the country to
19:54begin giving hospital patients real food instead of the terrible stuff, the appalling food that
20:01they feed you in hospitals.
20:03We sent out a letter to all the hospitals saying that they could not collect
20:08Medicare and Medicaid funding unless they started giving good food to their patients.
20:14We also announced a comprehensive new program on addressing microplastics in the society.
20:23And the biggest accomplishments, I think, over the last year were flipping the food pyramid,
20:29getting real food back on the American guideline.
20:32You know, the government has been lying to the American people for 60 years with
20:38dietary guidelines that were written by food industry lobbyists to encourage us to eat ultra
20:44-processed foods and highly refined carbohydrates.
20:47As a result of that, we now have the sickest population in the world from
20:51chronic disease. Seventy -seven percent of American kids cannot qualify for military service.
20:56When my uncle was president, we were spending zero on chronic disease.
21:01Today, we spend 4 .3 trillion dollars.
21:04It's 90 percent of our health care spending.
21:08And it is all preventable.
21:10And most of it is food induced.
21:14As 70 percent of the American calories now, the average American are coming from ultra
21:19-processed food and it's just poisoning us.
21:21The obesity rates in kids have gone from 3 to 5 percent when I was
21:26a kid, to 20 to 30 percent today.
21:29And in adults, it's 70 percent are obese or overweight.
21:33And so it's a national security issue.
21:36It's crushing our economy and it's destroying the lives of our children.
21:41And the new dietary guidelines are the biggest in our goal.
21:47It's going to change dietary culture in this country because it's going to change what
21:53people eat in the staff program, in the WICS program, school lunches, it's changing already
21:59what the military eats, it's changing Indian Health Services, all of the hundreds of millions
22:08of dollars a day in food subsidies that we give out.
22:11But now those programs have to align themselves with the new dietary guidelines.
22:19We've gotten rid of, by the end of the year, we should have gotten rid
22:23of all of the petroleum -based food dyes, all mine synthetic food dyes in our
22:29food. We are doing a first nutritional and contaminant regulations and testing of baby formula.
22:44We're changing the GRAS standard, which is generally recognized as safe.
22:50This is a loophole that EPA or FDA created and was captured by the food
22:58industry so that any chemical that food companies want to put in our food, they
23:04can do it without testing, without even telling us what's in it.
23:09We have now approximately 10 ,000 chemicals in our food.
23:14Nobody even knows what they are, and nobody's seen safety testing on almost any of
23:19them. In Europe, they only have 400 ,000 chemicals in our food.
23:27So food companies will no longer be in the loop.
23:34I have a long list of other things.
23:36We're ending animal testing. We've got, you know, we did the MFN negotiations, the most
23:45favored nation status, which are going to give us the cheapest we had for the
23:51last 30 years, the most expensive pharmaceuticals in the world, in our country.
23:56We have 4 .2 % of the population, but 75 % of pharmaceutical industry revenues
24:02and profits come from America.
24:05People in Europe pay a tiny fraction of what we do, but the same drug
24:10produced in the same factory in New Jersey.
24:12For example, when I took office, the list price for Ozempic in our country was
24:18$1 ,350. You could get the exact same drug in any pharmacy in London for
24:27$88. And this is a norm across, but now we are going to be, we
24:34are going to be paying in our country the cheapest price for every drug.
24:39And that is going to dramatically change the cost of medicine here and improve people's
24:44health. I could go on.
24:46No, this is all fantastic question for you.
24:50And I think this has to do with a big picture issue.
24:53And I think it's one reason you're in the administration now, which I'm sure several
24:56years ago, you never would have been able to forecast.
24:59Buck and I are still very angry over what happened during COVID.
25:03It's been six years and it seems like that is come and gone in a
25:08hurry. And a lot of people just want to turn the page and pretend it
25:10never happened. But I think it's hard for a lot of Americans to trust the
25:15government on health after what happened to us during COVID.
25:19Do you still feel that?
25:21How do you get that trust back when so many people are still angry about
25:26the lies that they were told, that we were all told by the government back
25:30then? Yeah, I mean, the only way to regret it, and you're right, we're seeing
25:35in polls that trust for the CDC was at 70 % before COVID.
25:41And it had already gone down substantially because of the opioid crisis.
25:45That was, you know, that was another lie that everybody, Americans first became aware that
25:52their health agencies were actually, you know, captured and promoting the mercantile ambitions of pharmaceutical
26:02companies rather than public health.
26:04But during COVID, half of America realized, okay, we're being lied to, systematically lied to
26:14by our public health agencies.
26:15And so trust has gone from 70 % to a little less than 40%.
26:20And the only way that you regain trust is by making the agencies trustworthy.
26:24And that's what we are doing.
26:27We are being honest with people the first time about what we know or we
26:33don't know. We are changing all the websites to make sure that people know, you
26:40know, that there are risks to certain medicines and certain interventions and that they have
26:47open eyes about what those risks are.
26:51And, you know, we just stop lying to people.
26:54And that is the only way over the long term that you're going to regain
26:57trust. We're speaking to HHS Secretary, RFK Jr., and Mr.
27:02Secretary, I'm down here in South Florida.
27:04I think you actually were on the beach here working out not long ago.
27:08I think I saw that on the Muscle Beach here.
27:10It's a great place. Very, very health conscious.
27:13And actually, Miami is trying to become.
27:15um the wellness the health and wellness capital of the world that's now a stated
27:19thing so i'm in the epicenter of this right now and one thing that people
27:22talk about a ton and i'm sure you get this is i know peptide is
27:27just a name for a chain of amino acids but people uh glp1s are a
27:32peptide which are changing health uh for millions of people as we know it there's
27:35peptides like bpc157 all this stuff is out there it's out there in large numbers
27:41people are taking it using it some say it's great some say it does nothing
27:44how can the fda uh catch up with some of this to where usage is
27:50because the usage is everywhere down here and a lot of other places and the
27:55fda is like oh we don't know good luck yeah well you know the here
28:02here's what happened there were 19 and uh commonly used perhaps the most commonly used
28:09one included bpc157 and a bunch of others that you're probably familiar with that were
28:16um in a category that were that were uh put in a category where they
28:23were formulation pharmacies couldn't make them for individuals they couldn't mass market them fda regulate
28:31products that are mass marketed for a specific indication uh for heart attacks or for
28:41obesity or whatever um but it doesn't regulate nutritional supplements and it's not supposed to
28:49regulate personalized medicine by formulation pharmacies those pharmacies are there so that if patients have
28:59specific needs that are not fulfilled by a mass marketed drug that the formulator can
29:09make up a uh a special drug for that patient and that is the category
29:16that peptides were being marketed on up until the biden administration the biden administration we
29:25believe illegally took 19 of those most popular passes uh peptides and put them in
29:33category two which makes it illegal to market them the fda has the ability to
29:39move it to category two but only if they find a safety signal and they
29:43did not have a safety signal on those and so now i float as you
29:49pointed out we have a gray market in a mass for a gray market in
29:54a black market where americans are being forced to buy these products from many cases
30:01unethical formulators there are many ethical ones out there unethical ones we're getting them from
30:08unknown sources and they're allowed to sell them for animals for research purposes they're not
30:15allowed to technically sell them for human use right for research only i've seen the
30:19sites right and that's where you're getting your peptides today you're getting up from one
30:25of those black market formulators and what you know we've made the argument and of
30:33course there is resistance within you know epa or fda by some of the career
30:40people we've made the argument that they should we should move them back into a
30:48category where they can be studied where they're going to be where we know what
30:53the source is they're because coming from legitimate formulators who are getting them from fda
31:00inspected labs those labs may be in india they may be in china or manufacturing
31:06facilities that they're fda inspected and we think that's the most sensible way to do
31:12it and then look for a safety signal and if there is one then you
31:15move it but if there is not one then you don't move it and that's
31:20the way the law is supposed to work and we're trying to return it to
31:22that last question for you hhs secretary robert f kennedy jr on with us we're
31:28talking about the impact of the first year and a half as we come up
31:32on it of trump what would hhs look like in your mind if kamala harris
31:38had won uh what would how much different would our health systems look and how
31:45much uh would the maha movement in your mind be struggling immensely can you contextualize
31:52how much of a difference there is just based on who ended up winning the
31:55election well i don't think that there was any um impulse to change things by
32:03the and you know it's not just bah i mean we've dramatically changed the trajectory
32:09so that we're now focused nih is doing research on vaccines on the etiology of
32:17all these chronic diseases where are they coming from what you know uh is it
32:23high fructose corn syrup we have no idea why because the biden administration nobody else
32:29ever did those studies it was regulatory malpractice is it from the food ties is
32:34it coming from all these other ingredients what are the ingredients that are triggering chronic
32:39disease destroying our metabolic health malpractice is it coming from all these ingredients that are
32:42being involved the quality of health and health and health and health and health and
32:42health and health and health None of that was happening.
32:44And now our agencies, FDA, CDC, HHS, are all laser focused on finding out what's
32:57causing the epidemic and then eliminating those exposures.
33:02And there's other things. I mean, the corruption in the agency.
33:06The agency grew over the four years of the Biden administration by 38 percent.
33:11And we had over 100 communications departments.
33:15We had over 40 procurement departments.
33:17We had 10 people doing every job.
33:20And then they stopped doing program integrity.
33:25So you saw South Florida, for example, where you are.
33:31There's an entire racket that is run by the Cuban government of durable medical equipment,
33:36and these companies supposedly selling wheelchairs and knee braces.
33:41But all they have is a list of patients.
33:43They charge Medicaid for them.
33:45We found one hotel that had 129 rooms, and every one of them was a
33:50durable medical equipment company. There are two times the number of durable medical equipment companies
33:57in South Florida, as there are McDonald's.
34:00And most of them don't sell anything.
34:02They're just there to steal from the federal government.
34:06And the Biden administration, when it came in, got rid of the program integrity department.
34:11So we had no capacity to catch the fraudsters.
34:14They cut it down from 80 people to six, all 50 states, six territories.
34:21And it'll... Mr. Secretary, this is all super important and super fascinating.
34:26We are running into a hard break right this second.
34:28So I have to say, please keep what you're doing, and please come back and
34:31talk to us. We would love to have you on.
34:33If you'd have us, if you'd do a monthly update for this audience on what
34:37you're doing, it's so important, and there's so much to cover.
34:39Thank you for what you're doing, and thank you for being here.
34:41We've got to leave it there for now.
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35:36Welcome back in. We've got a bunch of good talkbacks.
35:39Let's have some fun with these.
35:41Jay, Richard in San Diego, listening on Kogo out in the Southern California market.
35:48Jay. Clay and Buck, if the world were flat, the cats would have pushed everything
35:54off by now. That's pretty good.
35:58Anti -cat humor there. I'm not going to complain.
36:01Lisa from West Michigan, congratulations, Buck, to the Michigan Wolverines, who ended the bracket challenge
36:08for everybody out there. My wife won the family bracket challenge.
36:12She is a Michigan grad.
36:13And Lisa from Wessner, Michigan, says, gee.
36:17Happy belated, Clay. I just turned 70 today.
36:22And we got our gift last night when our wolves beat those huskies.
36:29So keep up the great work.
36:31I love you. America loves you.
36:34You're doing it. Keep rocking.
36:36Oh, that was so nice.
36:38Yeah, super nice. All right.
36:40From one 70 -year -old to another.
36:42We've got a big story tonight.
36:43We'll be back with you all tomorrow.
36:45We'll be back with you tomorrow.