Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Feb 18 2026
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0:34Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
0:41Appreciate you all being here with us.
0:43Clay is out today. He is doing fancy things at Mar -a -Lago.
0:50Trump's southern White House, if you will.
0:52The southern command for the Trump administration.
0:56And he'll be back with us tomorrow.
0:58He sends you all his warmest regards, of course.
1:01So it's just going to be me today, which is interesting timing because Manufacturing Delusion
1:08is my book. And it came out yesterday.
1:10And already, my friends, it is rocketing up the charts because of all of you.
1:15I am deeply gratified, grateful, and humbled.
1:19But I need those of you who are hearing this for the first time or
1:23have been busy or haven't had a chance yet.
1:25Get your copy. I am in a head -to -head struggle with anti -Trump lunatic
1:34Meacham, who now used to write history books, now writes books about how Trump is
1:39destroying the republic. So, yeah, we have to beat him.
1:44Have to beat the big lib offering this week, and I need your help to
1:48do it. Otherwise, the smug Morning Joe table will be high -fiving him for the
1:52number one New York Times bestseller next week.
1:55We cannot allow that. We cannot have it.
1:57I need you to mount up, get a copy of Manufacturing Delusion.
2:02It is, as people are finding when I talk to them in various interviews about
2:06the book, very topical. It is about political madness.
2:09The Democrat Party, I would argue, has been seized by political madness for years now.
2:16They are, in fact, in the grips of continuous but shifting mass hysteria.
2:22Sometimes it's climate change. Sometimes it's BLM.
2:25Sometimes it's COVID. And this is something, and obviously the transgender issue and the transgender
2:32mass shootings that we've seen the last week bring this to the forefront.
2:36It is time that we call this what it is.
2:38It is mass delusion, and it is only possible because there are tactics of mind
2:45control that are being deployed against these individuals.
2:52And then en masse, they all come together, and this is what ends up happening.
2:59So this is why Manufacturing Delusion is such an important book, and I really need
3:04you to go get a copy of it today.
3:05And I am going to shamelessly plug it throughout the show because I wrote it.
3:09I care about it. It matters.
3:10Also some cool CIA stories in there and stuff from the NYPD when I was
3:14there. So things I've never written about or talked about before, even if you've listened
3:18to me for 15 years, there are things in this book, some reminiscences that I
3:24have that you will have never heard or I've never talked about before.
3:28And, yeah, some stuff I did in Iraq, which you may find really interesting, some
3:32stuff I did in Afghanistan.
3:34So go get your copy today.
3:36All right. Now, I said mass delusion in the grip of mass delusion.
3:39Democrats, that is certainly the case for them.
3:44And we get Mamdani -ism already on full display.
3:49Now, I get that for a lot of you there's going to be this feeling
3:53of schadenfreude. You're going to feel like, you know, New York voted for this.
3:59New York gets what it deserves.
4:01This is obviously Clay's point of view on this, and this is something that you
4:07think doesn't concern you. Here's why I think it does.
4:09It concerns all of us.
4:11In the same way that Venezuela is a cautionary tale as a nation state for
4:16the rest of the world, when you put social justice above actual justice and private
4:23property rights and capitalism and individual rights, all this, because the situation in New York
4:31City is unfortunately, I think, going to be something of a lesson for the rest
4:36of the country. And what happens when you put a totally unqualified individual in charge
4:42of America's premier city and what are the sorts of things that he does as
4:49a result? For example, this is not somebody with any history of management experience.
4:53This is not somebody with any policy expertise per se.
4:56He knows how to sound charming to people while he tells them, while he tells
5:02the ignorant and the resentful what they want to hear and smiles while he does
5:09it. And that was apparently enough, enough to become mayor of New York.
5:13Now, you might point out that's more than de Blasio brought to the table, who
5:18was just a Democrat machine thug, and it's more than Eric Adams brought to the
5:24table. who tried to make the city better but really failed.
5:28I think it was at best treading water on most issues.
5:32He did say the right things on immigration, and of course the Democrats turned on
5:36him because he did not want his city to become a refugee camp, which is
5:42what was happening in New York City.
5:44But Mamdani, as we all warned, that this would be what starts to happen, and
5:48this is just the early stages of this, he gave a press conference where he
5:52announced that he is going to raise taxes.
5:55You know what? I'll let you hear it from Kami Mamdani himself.
5:59This is Cut One. Play it.
6:02At heart of this path is a property tax increase.
6:05This would effectively be a tax on working and middle -class New Yorkers who have
6:09a median income of $122 ,000.
6:12The second path also requires us to raid our reserves.
6:15It would mean withdrawing $980 million from our city's Rainy Day Fund in fiscal year
6:212026 and $229 million from the Retiree Health Benefit Trust in fiscal year 2027.
6:28These are steps that have been taken before, but only in moments of extraordinary external
6:33crisis. Mayor Bloomberg's response to the 2008 financial collapse and Mayor de Blasio's response to
6:39the enormous revenue shortfall caused by the pandemic.
6:41We do not want to have to turn to such drastic measures to balance our
6:46budget. He doesn't want to get to drastic measures.
6:50Hold on a second. Hold on a second.
6:55Mamdani has proposed a preliminary budget of $127 billion for New York City.
7:05$127 billion. The entire state of Florida in which I live has a budget of
7:12$117 billion. So New York City, 8 .5 million people.
7:17Florida, 21 million people. And Mamdani wants to spend more taxpayer dollars on New York
7:25City than my entire now home state is going to pay for everything.
7:31Everything in the, every line item in its budget.
7:34And, and this is just completely insane.
7:38This is completely nuts. And to put it in the context for you of how
7:42nuts is this? $127 billion budget.
7:46You know what the budget was in 2021?
7:49High, but in New York City, the budget was $88 billion.
7:55We're talking about roughly a 50 % budget increase in five, let's call it six
8:04years. In six years, a 50 % budget increase for New York City, which was
8:08already a massive and bloated budget.
8:11Now, there are going to be many lessons.
8:13I pulled the numbers here for you.
8:15In 2021, it was $88 billion.
8:18In 22, it was $98 billion.
8:20In 23, it was $101 billion.
8:22In 24, it was $106 billion.
8:23In 25, it was $112 billion.
8:25In 26, it was $115 billion.
8:27$120, he wants to jack it up.
8:29$12 billion in one year.
8:34In one year. From where it's already been sky high.
8:38Anyway, there's so much here, my friends, and I know we have a lot of
8:44listeners in New York. We have fantastic WOR radio listeners, and many people listen on
8:49podcasts, and however they listen to the show.
8:53And my family lives in Manhattan still, half of my family.
8:57And there are, unfortunately, a lot of us that sit around and just say, well,
9:02of course this is what's happening.
9:03We knew this was going to happen, but it's still crazy to watch it unfold
9:08this way. New York City's budget, 40 % of it, 40 % is going to
9:15go to the Department of Education.
9:16New York City's public school system is awful overall.
9:21There are some exceptions. There are some elite schools.
9:24The overall New York City school system is awful.
9:27The overall spending per pupil is above what a vast majority of private schools across
9:35America in the same grade year would cost.
9:40I mean, team, pull for me what the per pupil spending is going to be
9:44under this budget. I can't do the math in my head, but I'm sure it's
9:48going to be in the $30 ,000 range, maybe $25 ,000, something like that, which
9:53is just insane. 26 % of this budget is going to go to social services.
10:02A lot of that's just kind of welfare stuff.
10:04So you're paying for a massive education bureaucracy that fails and a welfare state.
10:10And that is what you get for being in New York City.
10:12That is why you have maybe second only, although with the tax hike that he's
10:17talking about here, it might be more.
10:20It's either this place or California, and I think actually state and local with New
10:24York City is worse than any state and local burden you get in California without
10:29taking property taxes into account.
10:32So I'd have to do a side -by -side comparison.
10:35But you're paying absolutely egregious taxes in New York so that you can have a
10:41failing education bureaucracy and a massive welfare state.
10:45And a welfare state that, let's remember, was estimated to be spending $14 billion a
10:51couple of years. years ago on illegals on newly arrived illegals alone in the new
10:56york city budget there are so many lessons from this and so many things that
11:00we can take from this but a few a few that come to mind right
11:05away it's never enough money whatever the mom donnie's of the world whatever kami mom
11:13donnie and his progressive left -wing lunatic base whatever they want this year from the
11:24taxpayer to take remember they don't ask they take this from you with the force
11:29of the state if you don't pay they'll take your business they'll take your house
11:33they'll take you to prison you have to pay this year whatever they want and
11:39then next year it will somehow be more because they say so next year it's
11:45going to be more and sure enough it's a burden oh wow it's going to
11:49fall on on middle class people too oh how many times must we learn the
11:54lesson how many times but this is where you get to the other part of
11:59it which is there also this kind of fiscal policy this kind of spending this
12:05approach to government that mom donnie has which is the same for a lot of
12:10democrats in a lot of cities and even states the state of california is run
12:14with the ideology of new york city it's the same thing gavin newsom and mom
12:17donnie really see things the same way they pander to the takers by scapegoating the
12:26makers they tell people who have resentment for whatever their financial situation is it's because
12:33of those rich fat cats who aren't paying enough the fat cats meanwhile are paying
12:38without the top one percent of earners in new york city the whole the whole
12:43thing is is preposterous like you lose 50 of the revenue one percent is paying
12:4850 but that's not enough and the failures of not just the failures that will
12:54come from this tax policy but the implementation failures that you will see meaning schools
13:00aren't going to get better streets aren't going to get safer the the free bus
13:05thing is never going to happen i mean all these different things it will be
13:08blamed on the people who are paying the taxes that are never enough and that
13:15will be wasted by these communist fools it's it's inevitable it's inevitable but remember communism
13:24is a religion leftist progressive political thought is a religion replacement it is in fact
13:30a civil or civic religion if you will it is their view of themselves this
13:36it they will do things that make people poorer that hurt the city overall because
13:43they say this was also obama it's the right thing to do they have to
13:46pay more in taxes because it's the right thing to do if there's less tech
13:50that there's less money that comes into the government coffers if the uh flight of
13:55high earners hurts the budget even more fine it's the right thing to do they
14:02will say because it's about envy and resentment and spreading the frustration of some people
14:10out and targeting others with it it's just neo -marxism that's what this is it's
14:17neo -marxism it's not going to bring down the price of anyone's apartment the people
14:20who believe that are ignoramuses he's not going to bring down costs he's going to
14:25raise costs just like we knew what they were going to do in venezuela when
14:29the idiot government seized private property seized factories set prices guess what they couldn't make
14:35washing machines at half the price that they were being sold before the government seized
14:40the washing machine factories what a shock the lesson is not yet learned they will
14:45never learn the lesson though because they don't care they don't care they live in
14:49a delusion which is why manufacturing delusion is such an important book and you need
14:55to go buy your copy now be armed with the arguments understand their tactics get
15:01your book today my friends now take some of your calls get into all this
15:06we got more on mom donnie ism mom donnie ism as well so uh well
15:11this is true they wrote this one for me i go out of my way
15:14to dress comfortably as i sit here in a super soft and comfortable t -shirt
15:17every day if possible one of the great things about my job one of the
15:20things i love about my life is that no one forces me to wear a
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16:48Welcome back in, everybody, to the second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
16:53show. We have the FCC Commissioner, Brendan Carr, with us now.
16:57Commissioner, appreciate you being with us.
17:00Yeah, great to be with you.
17:01Good to be back. Can you just walk us through this a little bit?
17:05Because there's been, there's all this stuff in the news now, headlines, some sniping back
17:11and forth over this. So, there was a Texas Democrat state rep, James Tallarico, Stephen
17:19Colbert, and now the FCC's name is being thrown around and all this.
17:24What is this controversy? Can you lay out for us, like, what the assertions have
17:29been and what the reality is surrounding this?
17:32There's so many layers to this.
17:33It's really an interesting story.
17:35At one level, this is a story about why trust in mainstream traditional media is
17:42at an all -time low.
17:43Because for any person that is not suffering from sort of a terminal case of
17:49Trump derangement syndrome, it was so obvious from the get -go what was happening here,
17:53which was that Colbert and Tallarico concocted a scheme to try to drive views and
17:59clicks and donations and apparently votes by claiming falsely that the government had somehow censored
18:06their program. And what happened was the truth came out and CBS said, no, in
18:10fact, nobody, not even CBS, prohibited Colbert from running the interview that he wanted.
18:16They simply said, hey, if you're going to do this, there's ways you can do
18:19this that complies with equal time requirements.
18:21And we encourage you, apparently, to do that.
18:23But instead of doing that, they did that sort of meme where you take the
18:26stick and poke it through your own front wheel of your bicycle and fall down
18:30and claim that you're the victim for abuse.
18:32So it was pretty interesting to watch the arc of this story between mainstream fake
18:39news reporters falling for this hoax that was really about Democrat and Democrat violence.
18:44It was about a politician trying to get a leg up in the Democratic Senate
18:48primary. And it fell apart once the facts started coming to light.
18:52Here is a media analyst on CNN.
18:57I've never heard of this guy before, Bill Carter.
18:59I wanted to play this soundbite and then have you just react.
19:02Just tell us what's accurate, what's not here.
19:05This is cut 13. Play it.
19:06There are many TV shows, which, as you pointed out, makes this even more strange.
19:10Because if CBS was in a different situation than they are in and they wanted
19:15to fight this, they could have gone to the court and said, how can you
19:18put this rule on us and not radio?
19:20They're doing the same thing.
19:21And there's thousands of stations that are conservative talk radio.
19:25And there's no way that they would enforce the rule against them.
19:28So it does seem like selective regulation against them.
19:31So I'm surprised that maybe ABC will do that if they would go after Kimmel
19:35again. But frankly, I just think that it's embarrassing.
19:38It really is embarrassing to me that you have Trump reacting to this small cadre
19:42of critics. Every president has been criticized by late night TV.
19:45Only this one wants to sick his FCC on them.
19:49Sick his FCC on them, he says.
19:51What's really going on here?
19:54Well, if you step back, there's a rule that's been on the books.
19:56In fact, it's a statute going back to the 1950s that says if you're going
20:00to put a legally qualified candidate for office on broadcast radio or TV, so he's
20:06wrong there, doesn't apply to radio as well, then you have to offer comparable time
20:11and placement to other legally qualified candidates.
20:14And over the last 20 or 30 years, people have misread or overread FCC case
20:18law, and they've just assumed that everything from The View to Colbert is bona fide
20:23news. Because if you're bona fide news, you don't have to comply with the equal
20:27time requirement. And all we've done is remind people that if you think you're bona
20:31fide news, meaning not fake news, then come to us and we will adjudicate whether
20:36you qualify for the exception.
20:38But other than that, you've got to comply with equal time.
20:41And why did Congress do this?
20:42It's pretty simple. They didn't want establishment media gatekeepers deciding who will win elections.
20:51They wanted the actual people in the voters to decide it.
20:54So they said you can't take your broadcast facilities and put your thumb on the
20:58scale for one particular candidate.
21:00And if you do that, you've got to open your facilities up to the other
21:03candidate. So it's about more speech.
21:05And this idea that this was somehow Trump censoring people makes no sense at all.
21:10Had they applied and complied with equal time rule, it would have been more airtime
21:15for more Democrats to say more of whatever they wanted to say about Trump or
21:21anybody else. But again, they just decided to run this hoax that this was about
21:26censorship because they knew that most of the mainstream media would have this comply with
21:32their priors and they would run the story.
21:34And, you know, the facts simply weren't there.
21:36Well, this seems to be a replay at some level of the of the Kimmel
21:40playbook where they claim victim and they act like there's been this terrible wrong done
21:47to some. democrat mouthpiece in the media and then they get a boost in ratings
21:51they get all this attention and they have uh you know idiot celebrities who are
21:55standing with them in solidarity so i guess it worked for them in that case
22:00and so they're trying to just replay this for attention and for clicks that's right
22:04this seems to be the exact playbook it's the same thing we saw with which
22:08is just nothing but projection and distortion it was so amazing for a media for
22:13an observer of the media here was this episode where this politician the democrat senate
22:18primary in texas put out a tweet i think before daylight on the east coast
22:23claiming that he was censored by the trump administration when no one here had anything
22:27to do with it and then within minutes hours the entire mainstream media apparatus just
22:34turned on a dime like a school of fish or a bunch of lemmings and
22:38it just reveals the cartel nature of so much of the national news media and
22:43then later in the day the facts came out and said that's not what happened
22:46at all and then they say well the narrative shifts like well the administration must
22:50be so awful that we were fooled by this that we thought this could possibly
22:53have taken place there's no reflection i mean these journalists are fed total slop by
22:59these candidates and they've got no problem regurgitating it and when they're called out for
23:03it they seem to be happy that they were part and parcel of another hoax
23:09we're speaking to fcc commissioner brendan car right now and commissioner what what enforcement actions
23:17if any do you either are underway have been taken or do you think may
23:21be taken when when it pertains to the equal time rule i mean is it's
23:26one thing to have a rule it's another thing to enforce it is there a
23:30likelihood that the fcc if people continue to completely ignore this will do something yeah
23:36absolutely look we already have enforcement action underway with respect to disney and the view
23:42disney apparently is taking the position that the view is bona fide news and therefore
23:47doesn't have to comply with equal time provisions we've already taken enforcement action there we've
23:54begun our enforcement process and we're going to see that through to the end and
23:58we're going to expect all the broadcasters to comply with these provisions if they don't
24:01like it that's okay they can go to congress and try to change it or
24:04they can turn in their license they can simply broadcast this content over a streaming
24:10service or a cable channel because those are not subject to this requirements just broadcast
24:14tv and radio but we're going to insist on people complying with the law as
24:19passed by congress again broadcast is just fundamentally different than any other means of distribution
24:25of programming and i get that people don't understand that because you just see a
24:29screen and you don't know that is this cable is it streaming is it broadcast
24:32can you actually i think not to interrupt you commissioner but i think this important
24:36people what what does fall you've mentioned this but what and why do certain things
24:41fall under fcc rules that uh and you mentioned cable for example does not what
24:48is that distinction where does that come from i just think that's important background for
24:51people to have it really is so in order to broadcast that means you're using
24:56the public airwaves that's a a finite natural resource and you get a license by
25:04the government to use a particular channel when the government gives you a license they're
25:08necessarily excluding other people from having the ability to use that spectrum for their own
25:15viewpoint so if you are on a podcast or a cable channel or a soapbox
25:19the government isn't excluding anybody everybody has a right basically to stand up a business
25:24and do that and so when you're on a podcast all you have to look
25:28out for is your own viewpoints your own partisan politics whatever you want but if
25:33you have a license the government says you must stand in the shoes effectively of
25:37people that were denied that microphone and so you have an obligation to operate with
25:42what we call is in the public interest not in some narrow partisan interest which
25:46would be perfectly fine on a cable program or a streaming service for podcast but
25:50broadcast is a license by the government it means we've excluded other people and it
25:55means you have to operate as sort of a public trust model that's the bargain
25:59that you that you agree to to get free access to this valuable public resources
26:03of the airwaves i don't even have cable tv commissioner so i'm i'm kind of
26:10out of uh the loop on some of these things but on when it comes
26:13to broadcast television are a lot of people isn't that like what i remember the
26:19old tvs they had the the the uh antlers the antennas uh on top and
26:24and that would are people watching cbs via the broadcast or is it digital how
26:29does that work i just the technology of it i'm curious about there's a small
26:34percentage of people that still get their broadcast tv as he would say over the
26:37air through the old rabbit ears that we used to have to tune when we
26:41were kids but a lot of people get it obviously through their cable service as
26:44well and the rules and regulations effectively apply to broadcast over cable to the extent
26:50that that cable channel is the same programming that you would get over the air
26:55but also highlights why i think it's important to enforce these rules which is there
26:59are so many other different ways of getting programming out there so if you don't
27:02want these rules and requirements go to cable go to streaming go to youtube but
27:07if you want to distribute to this one particular unique medium then you got to
27:11comply with the rules and regulations that apply to it and again over the years
27:14the fcc had simply walked away from enforcing that.
27:18And I don't think we're better off for that.
27:20Can I honestly ask, would it fall under your remit at the FCC, these spam
27:27texters? Can you fix this, Commissioner?
27:30This is something like, you know, go ahead.
27:33We are working on this.
27:34Most of the coverage of the FCC has to do with our media regulation policy
27:38because people like to talk about the media.
27:40But we have a really significant work stream going on, what we call illegal robocalls,
27:45and we're tapping the issue at every single portion of the life cycle.
27:49We're making it harder for bad actors to get phone numbers.
27:51We're making it really harder for foreign call centers to deliver traffic here, even legitimate
27:57foreign call centers. Like United has a call center in Guatemala.
28:01We are looking at additional regulations to compel them to disclose that this is a
28:06call center outside the U .S., not one inside the U .S.
28:09And so we're doing a lot of work.
28:11It's not just us. It's FTC.
28:13It's state attorney generals. We're all working to try to crack down on this robocall
28:17problem. We're making some progress, but obviously we're, you know, a ways off from mission
28:20accomplished on that. Well, it's just good to know someone's on it because it drives
28:24me, and I think a lot of people listening with us right now drives them
28:28nuts, and it's such a time waster.
28:31It also opens the door to a lot of elder fraud because people just assume
28:36I got a call, a number showed up, you know, the person sounds nice and
28:41legitimate, and they're actually from, you know, my whatever company or my credit card company.
28:46And, of course, you know, it turns out that it's a scam.
28:48So cutting down on this, I just think, across the board.
28:52By the way, I think that's probably like a 95.
28:55There aren't that many issues in politics, but I think cutting down on spam calls
28:59and, you know, you know, robocalls is a way to make the FCC very, very
29:04popular. Yeah, you're right, and we're going to be continuing to ramp up our efforts
29:09here because we're seeing increasingly, to your point, elder fraud where people are impersonating banks.
29:14You see it with direct messages to people through Facebook.
29:17They either claim to be businesses or people.
29:19It is a rampant vector right now for fraud.
29:22I think almost everybody either has, you know, a parent or a friend or a
29:25neighbor that's been victimized through either these impersonation calls or Facebook DMs.
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29:45Yeah, appreciate it. Good to be with you.
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31:02You don't know what you don't know, right?
31:05But you could on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.
31:09Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
31:11Want to take your talkbacks and your calls, my friend.
31:13And also remind you that Chip Roy is going to join us in the third
31:17hour. We're going to do a politics, policy nerd, deep dive into the SAVE Act,
31:26into the partial government shutdown, the demands about ICE from the Democrats.
31:31Like, you're going to know more from the conversation we're going to have with Congressman
31:35Roy than anyone who's going on TV over at MS Now, that's for darn sure,
31:42talking and spouting off about it.
31:44So I really want to get into that because those are important issues.
31:48Obviously, the integrity of our election is something this administration is still very energized by
31:53and focused on, for obvious reasons, really does matter.
31:57And I think that the American people need to know where the two sides, Democrat
32:01and Republican, fall on this issue.
32:03So we will, I promise you, we'll get into some real policy stuff on that
32:08one. And, you know, Chip Roy knows, knows the ins and outs on that.
32:12And we have Talkback A.
32:14Let's hit it. This is David in Hendersonville, Tennessee.
32:18Wanted to thank you all for carrying on after Rush.
32:22Back in 2021, I lost two of the most important people in my life, Rush
32:27Limbaugh and my mother. So thank you all for carrying on and take care.
32:32Well, David in Tennessee, thank you so much for listening and condolences on your losses
32:38there. And, yes, we all lost Rush five years ago yesterday.
32:42A voice. that brought us all so much comfort, was a friend.
32:49Also, I just can't give a better answer than this.
32:52Whenever someone asks me, they say, how did you know you wanted to do talk
32:55radio, and how did you learn how to do talk radio?
32:57And the answer, the real answer is just listening to Rush.
33:00It's how I learned. It's how I know or how I knew that I wanted
33:04to do it. So there was, yeah, it was, that's, when someone has had that
33:09profound an effect on your life, as I sit here now doing radio for a
33:12living, yeah, of course, you think back to it.
33:15And the team, by the way, that is with us here, that pulled together a
33:18tribute for Rush that you could listen to yesterday, I know many of you did,
33:22some of them were with Rush for over 20 years.
33:26So you want to talk about someone that they remember in the fondest terms and
33:30had the most profound impact on their lives, a team that's still running this show
33:34today was with Rush for 20, most of them were with Rush for 20 plus
33:39years. So we got all your emails and all of your, all feedback on our
33:45remembrance of Rush yesterday. And we really do appreciate it.
33:48And we, every year, you know, every year we'll take that moment to say thank
33:52you for what he did and for the role that he played in so many
33:57of our lives as a trusted voice and a trusted friend and obviously a patriot
34:01for this country, someone who did so much good.
34:04Now we have, like I said, we have Chip Roy coming up in the third
34:09hour. I want to get into this.
34:11The issue of where things are going with trans surgeries and the liability that now
34:19is emerging for those who have done surgery on minors, this is having a real
34:24effect and there's some breaking news that is coming out about this that I want
34:27to address. And we will get into that.
34:31And also I'll talk to you a little bit about how it very much does
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35:38All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck, my friends, Manufacturing Delusion, a
35:45book about mind control that takes into account the most intense mind control programs and
35:55campaigns, certainly in modern history, those of the Soviet Union and communism, Maoist China and
36:03the Cultural Revolution, North Korea, cults ranging from Onshin Rikyo to Al -Qaeda in Iraq,
36:11which is in a sense, was in a sense a terrorist cult, and how they
36:17make people come to believe or how they bring people to believe insane things that
36:23they will take action on.
36:24That is what Manufacturing Delusion is about.
36:27And I bring it up, one, because I do need you to go get a
36:30copy of the book if you have not yet.
36:31Please do. You know where to get you.
36:33If you have a local bookstore, call them and see if they have it because
36:36that's great. We love to support our local bookstores.
36:38Otherwise, you know how to get it online.
36:39The audio book, I read it, and it is my voice.
36:43It is me reading the whole thing, so hopefully you like my voice if you're
36:47listening to this show, and you will enjoy listening to the audio book as well.
36:51The book is doing well so far.
36:53I'm very sanguine about these things.
36:56You know, there's probably some, you know, some children's book about like a non -binary
37:02polar bear that's going to, you know, rock it to the, you know, whatever.
37:06The point is, for a political book, it's doing well, and we have to beat
37:10Meacham's book because he's a smug lib who trashes Trump on MSNBC.
37:15And there's a chapter in the book, though, where I get into what I was
37:21talking about yesterday, which is menticide.
37:23And menticide is obviously a killing of the brain, coined by Just Mirlu, who was
37:30a psychiatrist and in the Second World War worked at, well, really debriefed Nazi prisoners
37:37of war and came to understand very much the Nazi.
37:41He did counter -propaganda for the Allies.
37:44Mirlu was a, he was Dutch.
37:47And then, as part of that, was debriefing Nazis and learned about their propaganda efforts.
37:52But he came up with menticide, mental annihilation, the murder of the mind.
37:57And the ways that you achieve this and confusion and degradation, again, are the twin
38:02pillars. If you're going to simplify it down, confusion and degradation are essential.
38:07Now, there are a lot of ways to confuse people with a lot of ways
38:09to degrade people. people. I don't know.
38:10You can confuse people by putting them in extreme isolation and bombarding them with noise,
38:21music, sounds. There's all these different things that you can do.
38:24Or you can just be in a society where you're constantly bombarded with lies.
38:28A fire hose of falsehood, it is called.
38:30It's actually a term taken from a RAND study on this.
38:35And these are the ways that you can get people to believe crazy things.
38:39And it's not quite Pavlov's dogs, which we start out with.
38:43And Pavlov wasn't working on brainwashing.
38:46He was working on the brain -body connection.
38:49What can your brain process, whether it's sight, sound, what does your brain process in
38:57that way that then has actual physiological effect?
39:00And this is where we get the salivary reflex of dogs that had come to
39:05associate a metronome or a buzzer, not a bell, with feeding time.
39:13And unfortunately, if you're a dog lover, you'll find out that Pavlov was quite rough
39:17with some of the dogs, some of the animal.
39:20Let's just say that there was no PETA.
39:23I won't get into this.
39:24But the point is he was very much interested in the digestion of dogs.
39:32And this was all to understand better how this works in the higher order creatures,
39:37human beings. But it turns out that even though there were some lessons from it,
39:43it's also really complicated. Some dogs are, as anyone knows, now he wasn't training dogs.
39:49Pavlov would have never said he was training dogs.
39:51He was exploring this brain -body connection.
39:54And this is when nobody else really was doing this, so it was revolutionary work
39:58at the time. He was doing this, of course, before we knew what DNA was.
40:01He was doing this before the rise of widespread antibiotics.
40:05I mean, this was early.
40:07It was really turn of the 20th century and then the early 1920s, 1930s, when
40:12he was doing a lot of this work.
40:14And what you find is that each individual animal, again, working with dogs here, had
40:22its own circuitry. And so some of them were much easier to get certain training
40:31through to or certain reflexes.
40:33It was actually conditional reflex in the original Russian.
40:37It wasn't just, you know, we think of this as like Pavlov and conditioning and
40:40conditioned reflex. It was conditioned reflex.
40:43It was conditional reflex. And that's what he was looking at, the reflex of the
40:47brain into the body and how these things affect each other.
40:50So that was a revolutionary, as I said, revolutionary scientific discovery at the time.
40:55But always there was this, well, hold on, it works better with some dogs than
41:00others because they're not machines, just like we're not machines.
41:02We actually aren't machines. And our circuitry, our underlying biochemistry, our soul, these things take
41:11us out of the realm of science into something else, right?
41:13Something that can't yet be fully understood by charts and tables and data and beakers
41:18and Bunsen burners and all of this.
41:22Now, that's worth noting because for each and every one of us, there's going to
41:28be different approaches that we have to be particularly mindful of and different things that
41:32will work on us. And we are in a society now that is more, we
41:36are more bombarded with information than any other era of the human species by far.
41:46It is not even close.
41:47And you know this is true.
41:49We carry around in our, I carry more knowledge with my smartphone or at least
41:55access to more knowledge than existed in the, you know, the great library of Alexandria.
41:59I mean, there's, there's just, it's endless, but also because particularly of social media, there's
42:06a feeding and refeeding into the system.
42:08And we have to become aware of how this is affecting our circuitry.
42:13Again, we use the, when we talk about ourselves, we use the language of, of
42:18electronics and robotics. And, but of course, as I said, there's something different about us
42:22too. And even Pavlov noted that.
42:24There's something that you can't just account for with experiments, charts, and tables.
42:30We are all different. We're all unique.
42:32You might even say we're all created in God's image.
42:34And therefore there's something very special and unable to be charted on a graph about
42:42each and every one of us.
42:43But this is where I turn to, how is it that we became a society
42:50with more knowledge, more advanced knowledge than anyone else before us with discoveries and with
42:58computation and analysis truly unfathomable even, I don't know, a hundred years before, even in
43:07the time of the year, certainly the earlier days of Pavlov's research.
43:10And yet we are a society that has allowed children to have genital mutilation surgery
43:16in the furtherance of a mass hysteria, which is this transgender stuff, something that is
43:24increasingly, and this is also why you'll note, it is getting more desperate and more
43:29violent as an ideology and as it more clearly fails in every respect, which is
43:36often the case, right? People...
43:38Can become most dangerous when they feel they're cornered and they have nothing to lose.
43:42This ideology, this transgenderism that became a true culture, really a sort of mind virus
43:52that was spreading very rapidly.
43:54And it occurred in the 21st century overwhelmingly and really in the last 10 to
43:5915 years is when this gained tremendous momentum.
44:04We're now seeing the pushback against this, a pushback against this mass hysteria.
44:09But I think that the way that we were able to get there, oh, the
44:11news story, I should tell you, the breaking news on this is that NYU Langone
44:16hospital system has said that because of the current regulatory environment, it will discontinue its
44:24gender medicine program for minors.
44:30This is a massive step forward.
44:33This is enormous. This goes to show you that just a few years ago, there
44:37were people who were saying it's never going to change.
44:40This is here to stay.
44:42There was a there was a sense even among people, I think, who recognized how
44:46wrong this was. There was a sense that this could be with us forever because
44:54the medical associations and big medicine and the hospitals and all this were pushing this
44:59and believed that somehow this was giving people care.
45:05And now and now this is something that I think is going very clearly in
45:12the other direction. Here you go.
45:13This is someone in an interview, the Manhattan borough president, Brad Holly Hoylman Siegel.
45:21It's a Manhattan borough president, not a doctor, said it was his understanding.
45:25NYU Langone would no longer provide hormone treatment and other gender related care to transgender
45:29youth. Mr. Hoylman Siegel said he was worried that some of NYU Langone's transgender patients
45:35would struggle to find doctors willing to continue their care.
45:38I'm horrified at the consequences.
45:40It's crucial they find alternative care.
45:42They deserve care. They should get care.
45:46Psychiatric care. You are not a woman because you think you're a woman.
45:50That is not reality. That is not real.
45:52You can never become a woman.
45:54There is no surgery that can that can effectuate that.
45:58It is not reality. And that medicine entered the run.
46:02You know, I'm right. You know, as I say those words, what I am saying
46:05is true. And the other side cannot defeat that truth.
46:11Everything they say is an obfuscation or an evasion or an emotional manipulation.
46:17But the fundamental truth that you cannot be some other gender.
46:21You cannot be the other because you deem it or wish it or insist on
46:27it being so. That reality is emerging right now in a way that I think
46:37is, I hope, going to continue with a momentum to stop this.
46:42Because at this point, it's just you're saving young people from ruining their lives.
46:45I mean, every day that these systems are shut down or every day that they
46:50this is horrible, the stuff that they are doing.
46:54And to do this kind of thing under the guise of medicine, it's such a
46:58betrayal of the Hippocratic Oath, such a betrayal of medical ethics.
47:01It's very obvious. And this is why when you start to ask people, say, how
47:05do you fight against the manufacturing of delusions?
47:09When you ask honest questions, you should get answers or honest answers from people who
47:17are trying to push a certain point of view or push a policy.
47:22If all they want to do is shout you down and bully you, there's a
47:26problem. You know you've established something with that.
47:30And for as long as there has been this transgender, really psychological contagion, this phenomenon,
47:38as long as this has been ascendant in this country, it has been clear that
47:42if you ask questions about this, the people who push it don't want to answer
47:48your questions and they want you to shut up or else.
47:52And they will hurt you.
47:53They will hurt your career, as we've seen.
47:55They'll do more than just hurt your career.
47:57Here, there is something obviously of the radical in these individuals.
48:03There is a sense that this is not something they're willing to discuss.
48:10Really? What other area of medicine are we not able to have a conversation about?
48:15Hey, what are the long -term prospects for this?
48:17What are the failure rates?
48:18What are the complications? I can ask any doctor in America that about a knee
48:22surgery. And if they're a decent doctor, they'll sit down and they'll talk to me.
48:26But if I want to get, you know, you know how many times I've tried
48:29to get a transgender doctor in the past to come on a show and explain
48:32the procedure and what's possible.
48:33It's not, they won't do it.
48:35They won't do it. Why not?
48:38Oh, because, you know, you're mean and you're right wing.
48:40No, I actually really want to know.
48:42I want people to know the reality of this, that NYU Langone is, and I
48:47just let these Democrats, too, are saying, oh, where are they going to get care?
48:50You mean where are teenage girls going to find a doctor that's willing to surgically
48:55remove their breasts because they're going through a psychiatric disorder?
48:59Hopefully nowhere. Because it's not going to turn out well for them.
49:04And if it was going to turn out well.
49:06I'll see you next time.
49:06For them, by the way, don't you think we would all have the long -term
49:08data and the studies? They just say that we don't have these things.
49:11We don't have these studies.
49:12They do some observational study.
49:13They run. It's just like with COVID.
49:15They just try to smother you with credentialed nonsense and hope that you shut up
49:20and stop asking the obvious questions.
49:23They want you to be a part of the manufactured delusion.
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