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3:14Oh, my. Got some big stuff to get into.

3:16First up here, the Trump administration, the president, is threatening to pull out of NATO.

3:24Going to be giving a speech tonight at 9 o 'clock, addressing the nation about

3:31this whole situation in Iran.

3:33And I am sure, I think everyone is sure, he is going to have some

3:36very tough words for our NATO allies.

3:40And we shall give you some of those details of where that all stands.

3:44Updates, of course, on the ongoing Iran air war.

3:49It's really what this is.

3:50So, we'll discuss that with you in detail.

3:53But Clay and I both spent the morning drinking our Crockett coffee.

3:57It's accurate. There you go.

3:58It's important to add the Crockett coffee.

4:01It's April Fool's. People can be like, holy cow, what are we stepping into today?

4:04I'm getting hit with crazy stuff.

4:06Producer Allie, totally with a haymaker at me, first thing this morning, I wake up

4:11and she says that she found a box of puppies.

4:13And can we help people adopt them?

4:16And she knows, I'm like, oh, you found puppies?

4:18I'll help her. I'm all excited about her.

4:20I'm like, let's find people to adopt the puppies.

4:23She unked me. She unked me big time.

4:26So, this is, you have not heard the update on this.

4:29So, I immediately thought, okay, this is, I bought that Producer Allie could have a

4:33box of puppies. And my first thought was, we'll just give them away to listeners.

4:37And there will be, it'll be kind of a fun, nice thing to do.

4:41And then. I love how you saw it as a brand oppo right away.

4:44Yeah, immediately. Immediately. I was like, well, you know, let's give the puppies away to

4:48listeners. That'll be a happy thing because it's not always happy talk on the show.

4:53And then she said she was bringing them to the studio.

4:55And I was like, this is April Fool's.

4:57So, it was that part that I was like, and by the way, this is

5:00the part you don't know yet, Buck.

5:01And we'll get into all the serious stuff.

5:03Producer, I think it was Producer Mike, has a grandson.

5:07He told his wife has been begging for a puppy.

5:10This is what Allie has created.

5:13Told his wife that he was going to bring a puppy home for the seven

5:18-year -old. And now the seven -year -old is crushed because there isn't actually a

5:22puppy because Producer Allie. tried to pull an April Fool's joke and now there's a

5:28crushed seven -year -old in New York who was expecting a puppy.

5:32So your April Fool's jokes, I saw your tweet.

5:36It is true. You got got already.

5:38So many people are getting got.

5:40AI and plus a lot of credulous people.

5:44There is just April Fool's is on steroids now.

5:47You basically can't believe anything almost you hear all day.

5:50Okay now this is not an April Fool's so we can get back into this

5:55now. I'm giving you a word in April Fool's free session for a moment here

5:59because as we're drinking our coffee this morning we're listening to the Supreme Court oral

6:04arguments on this birthright citizenship case and Clay there's a lot going on here.

6:11To me I know you listen I was listening here is the at least the

6:18crux of the argument for me was put out by U .S.

6:21Solicitor General John Sawyer and responded to by John Roberts.

6:26This is a little less than a minute long but I want you to hear

6:29this was just argued you know in the last hour or so earlier this morning

6:34Supreme Court play cut one.

6:37The media reports indicate estimates could be over 1 million or 1 .5 million from

6:43the People's Republic of China alone.

6:45The congressional report that we cited in our brief talks about certain hot spots like

6:49Russian elites coming to Miami through these birth tourism companies and here's the fact about

6:55it that I think is striking.

6:56Media reported as early as 2015 that based on Chinese media reports there are 500,

7:02500 birth tourism companies in the People's Republic of China whose business is to bring

7:09people here to give birth and return to that nation.

7:15And Chief Justice John Roberts responded that it's a new world but it's the same

7:22constitution and you say to yourself okay hold on a second.

7:26So Clay the Solicitor General lays out here that there are 8 billion people in

7:32the world and it's really easy to come to America and there is a systematic

7:36scamming of American citizenship that is going on at scale today just with Chinese birth

7:42tourism alone. We're not even talking about anchor babies coming across the border and all

7:45that. And the response of John Roberts is basically yeah man times change.

7:51They're as American as apple pie.

7:53You grew up in Beijing for 18 years.

7:55You apply to UCLA when you're an adult.

7:57You're not just getting in -state tuition.

7:59You're an American as American as you me and every American listening right now.

8:04I just think that's an untenable position but that may be where the Supreme Court's

8:08going. I got so many thoughts on this and I cranked up the television and

8:16I just tweeted some of them out if you want to go read it.

8:21But obviously to me let's start with the guy's voice.

8:26He cannot be the Solicitor General.

8:28And look I'm saying this as a lawyer.

8:30He may be a brilliant legal mind.

8:32As I watched this argument play out Buck and you just heard it a little

8:37bit. The number one job of an oral advocate is to be an elite oral

8:42advocate. His voice is awful.

8:46And so much of you know this but I think this is important so much

8:50because you don't have cameras in the courtroom.

8:53Almost all of this is going to spread now on social media in the marketplace

8:58of ideas. There's going to be a bunch of clips.

9:01All of the justices were crisp, articulate.

9:04You may not agree with them but their voices sounded and were completely intelligible.

9:10This guy, the U .S.

9:11Solicitor General Sauer. Is it Sauer or Sawyer?

9:14I don't know how it's pronounced.

9:16S -A -U -E -R.

9:17I mean Sig Sauer would be the gun company so I'd say Sauer is a

9:21good choice. That Sauer, you couldn't understand him at all.

9:25And I think this, given that President Trump is elite when it comes to communication,

9:30I'm stunned that this guy is the advocate for this policy.

9:34Now, that is on the pure optics, the way that the argument gets out.

9:39The law basically here, Buck, what they're debating is what did congressmen and women in

9:471868 that have been dead for 150 years intend when it came to addressing citizenship

9:56in the 14th amendment for a situation that they never could have conceived of in

10:02a modern day birth, tourism, all of these different things.

10:06I think, and I want all of you to prepare yourselves for this.

10:09I think the Supreme Court is going to say President Trump doesn't have the executive

10:12authority to be able to enforce this interpretation of the 14th amendment.

10:18Unfortunately, Buck, I think this is going to enshrine birthright citizenship as a constitutional right

10:25to, and again, there's two different types.

10:27There's birth, there's citizenship by your parents and there's by soil.

10:31What is the issue here is by soil.

10:34In other words, if you cross over the border and have a baby in Texas

10:37from Mexico, your kid is just as American as anybody out there who's been in

10:41this country for hundreds of years and has both parents born here.

10:45Buck, my big issue is this is actually going to make birthright citizenship worse because

10:51now all those five. 100 companies that Sauer was citing are going to say the

10:56U .S. Supreme Court has said this is the law and the land.

11:00Get into the United States by any means possible.

11:02Pregnant women have a baby there.

11:04Your kids are citizens just like you and me for the rest of their life.

11:08Here's the ultimate indictment, though, Buck.

11:10And this is a lot of people are not going to focus on this.

11:14Congress can't fix it. Everybody's going to blame the Supreme Court.

11:18They're trying to apply an 1868 law based on an executive argument made by President

11:24Trump that is novel. President Trump is trying to solve the issue because he knows

11:28Congress can't. Well, they won't.

11:31I'm not sure it can't.

11:32They choose not to. Right.

11:34I mean, they clearly have the power to.

11:36They could even do a constitutional amendment if they wanted to.

11:39But they don't because Democrats ultimately are across the board.

11:44Every Democrat. It is a it is an article of faith in the Democrat Party

11:48that the birth tourism baby born here.

11:53And by the way, it's conspiracy to lie on your visa.

11:56It's conspiracy to lie. We know if you're interacting with Customs and Border Patrol about

12:01your purpose of your visit.

12:02I mean, there's all kinds of legal issues with that, too.

12:04But then you return to China and this is the perfect example is because it

12:08is happening. We know it's happening at scale.

12:11It's a business. It is a business to scam American citizenship right now.

12:16People go to prison for it.

12:18It's a crime. So this is actually happening.

12:20And the what what the Democrat Party believes and you cannot deviate from this is,

12:25yes, the person who was born here, who then is gone and goes back to

12:30China and is part of a conspiracy to defraud the American government is as American

12:35as apple pie, as American as anybody else and gets all the rights.

12:39You know, you want us to die for this place?

12:42It has to be you want us to be willing to give our lives in

12:44the military. It has to be more than a welfare state, a soup kitchen and

12:50an economic zone. And they're they're really toying with making a lot of us just

12:56say, I'm sorry, what is it that this country represents again?

12:59What is it to be an American?

13:01Is it just a joke?

13:02It's just a piece of paper that we can give to anybody for any reason.

13:06That's no country can sustain that.

13:09Whatever they tell you, no country can endure.

13:11They will have eroded sovereignty to the point of no return.

13:16And again, I there probably are going to be some people who come on shows

13:21today and tell you, oh, this went great.

13:23President Trump's order is in fantastic shape.

13:26It's not going to happen.

13:27I would love to be wrong.

13:29And in June, if this decision comes down or whenever it's going to come down,

13:33then I will be happy to come on here and say, wow, this is one

13:37of the most transformative decisions the Supreme Court's ever made.

13:40This is the right decision.

13:42But I think they're not going to try.

13:46And again, the history nerd in me love that they're analyzing debates from 1868 to

13:52try to determine what the law was and is as it pertains to citizenship.

13:56What I would say is an immutable fact is if you could go back in

14:01time to 1868 in your time machine and you could say to every member of

14:06Congress in 1868, hey, guys, by 2026, they're going to be debating what you guys

14:12intend for people who hop on airplanes or people who illegally come into this country

14:17and have a baby and then go back to live in other countries, whether those

14:22people are American citizens or not, they would have unanimously said, of course, they aren't.

14:27Well, this is also why subject to the jurisdiction thereof is so important.

14:32And there was a lot of debate and a lot of back and forth about

14:35this specifically. So and I'm just going to say this, this is why we should

14:39not have dual citizenship in this country for any country.

14:42You can be an American citizen and that is it.

14:45And when you look at why we have dual citizenship, the arguments are super weak.

14:49So it should be because I keep in mind also if you're a U .S.

14:53citizen and a citizen of another country, we have extraterritorial taxation.

14:57So wherever you are around the world, you're subject to U .S.

14:59taxes. This is this is to me, Clay, you boil this down to whether being

15:07an American has any meaning beyond something that can be effectively stolen through part of

15:13a criminal conspiracy, which is what birth tourism is, for example, and whether being an

15:17American is something that will reward people for violations of law, which let's keep in

15:21mind an anchor baby. The parents broke the law.

15:23And what happens is they break the law.

15:25The kid's a citizen. And then the whole family gets sponsored through chain migration to

15:30come into this country. So it's not just for that kid who gets citizenship.

15:33They go to the front of the immigration line.

15:36And this is how this country is supposed to work.

15:38And by the way, all these things about doing the jobs we want to and

15:41all this other stuff, not true.

15:42And if anything, welfare usage, much higher among the new arrivals.

15:47There's all kinds of questions about what happens to assimilation processes in a country that's

15:52bringing in tens of millions of people in a short period of about 10 million

15:57illegals in under the Biden administration.

15:59You tell me that that we can handle that for through what we have thought

16:02of as assimilation in this country.

16:04Every wave of migration in America in the past, Clay, has resulted in a period

16:08of clampdown. We're like, all right, that's enough.

16:10Yeah, we got to all kind of live together and figure things out for a

16:13while. We're going to turn this country into a joke, into a giant.

16:17It's just going to be, like I said, one giant soup kitchen show up here.

16:20Have your baby. By the way, taxpayer expense.

16:22Oh, and whatever medical issues you have, taxpayer expense.

16:25Because, you know, we've got nothing but money to spend.

16:27It's not like we're running a $30 trillion deficit.

16:31Or debt, rather, sorry. This is something that I think people need to really take

16:35very seriously. But I agree with you.

16:37I'm not John Roberts, this whole thing.

16:39John Roberts is basically like, is this insane?

16:41Yeah, tough. That's the deal.

16:45We didn't really get to that part in that clip.

16:47But that is, unfortunately, what his attitude was.

16:51Yeah, and again, I come back to this is where Congress today, you know, it's

16:57figuring this is one of the flaws of originalism, right?

17:01For those of I can go on and on about this.

17:03But you're trying to determine the intent of people based on a conception of a

17:08concept that they never could have conceptualized.

17:11Now, I can say, I feel very confident everybody in 1868 would have considered this

17:16interpretation of what they did today to be insane.

17:20But they're not here to tell us.

17:22And, unfortunately, Congress, which can act, in theory, is incapable of addressing what is an

17:30existential threat to the country.

17:33And, by the way, has anybody even really thought about this?

17:36I just, I don't like incapable, Clay.

17:38They're capable. They won't do it because Democrats don't agree.

17:41Unwilling. They have the power.

17:43Unwilling. Here's the other thing.

17:45Has anybody ever really thought about this?

17:46If there are a million illegal, a million American citizens in China, think about this

17:51for a sec. Like, those million people could just move to Wyoming and take over

17:57the state of Wyoming or any other small western state and make it a communist

18:03state. Does anybody ever think about what could happen?

18:05And day two of their arrival, speaking no English, they're as American as you and

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23:22Welcome back in. Hour number two, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton's show.

23:27We thank all of you for hanging out with us.

23:30A bunch of different news stories in the works.

23:34As we are speaking to all of you, the Artemis 2 crew is suiting up

23:39ahead of their launch down in Florida to return to orbit the moon for the

23:45first time in decades. Jared Isaacman was on with us yesterday, the head of NASA,

23:51talking about how this is setting the table for a moon base and one day

23:56humans on the surface of Mars, which is pretty cool.

24:00What is your favorite space movie?

24:05All time. Space. The final frontier.

24:09Favorite movie. I'm leaving it very broad here.

24:12That's a very good question.

24:14I don't even know that I that I have one that is I probably what

24:20Paul 13 probably was Paul 13, right?

24:22With Tom Hanks about the space crew and having to come back.

24:25I think that's the answer.

24:26Is there a better one?

24:27That's the answer I would expect from somebody who spent his vacations going to Civil

24:31War camp and Supreme Court arguments.

24:34Fine. Aliens. Are you including like Star Wars and stuff like that?

24:39Everything. Everything, you big nerd.

24:41Well, then Star Wars is the answer.

24:44I mean, Star Wars. I thought you meant like an actual space movie.

24:47Star Wars. Empire Strikes Back.

24:50Empire Strikes Back. That's respectable.

24:52You're not. You've gone. You've gone less nerd.

24:54Apollo 13. Well, I thought you were specifically saying like a real, not science fiction.

25:00Did you go to NASA camp too?

25:01Was clear like, I want to be an astronaut one day.

25:04I want to be zero gravity.

25:05Warra has been to space camp multiple times, I think, but with our boys because

25:10they have parent kid space camp.

25:12That's cool. That's like a nice family thing.

25:14Yeah. Yeah. She's been multiple times.

25:16I think she's ready to go to space if she needed to.

25:19So yeah, I mean, Star Wars is the obvious answer, but I thought you meant

25:22like actual rocket space, like real life type.

25:26You've seen aliens, right? Yeah.

25:28Wow. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

25:32Light him up, everybody. Light him up.

25:34He's James Cameron's aliens. He's not giving that its due.

25:37That's madness to me. Madness.

25:39So Artemis 2, that is going to take off.

25:43SpaceX going public. I think that's probably intentional to double up there for the biggest

25:49IPO potentially in the history of capitalism.

25:52Supposed to happen in July.

25:54Would not shock me if Elon Musk tried to do it around July 4th, if

25:57that's true, to celebrate America's 250th.

26:01I can see a lot of positivity associated with that.

26:05But Buck, I am still super fired up.

26:08I was watching all the birthright citizenship arguments and I thought, let me give you

26:15a couple of things. First of all, and again, this is nerding out.

26:19There is a difference between two different types of citizenship.

26:23One of them is not controversial at all.

26:26If your parents are citizens of a country, then you should become a citizen of

26:30that country when you are born.

26:32I think everybody gets that and that applies even if you are on a base

26:37in Germany or one day if you're on Mars and you have and your parents

26:42are American and they have a baby, you should be an American citizen.

26:45I think everybody gets it.

26:46The other one is by soil.

26:48And I didn't think that the advocate here, John Sauer, really did a good job

26:52historically explaining what's going on personally because by soil, citizenship is very rare.

27:00And nowhere in Europe, he did mention we played that audio.

27:02You can't become a citizen in China.

27:04You can't become a citizen of Japan.

27:07So I have got two different things that to me, Buck, would make sense.

27:12All right. Solutions, right? Because Congress Congress can't do it.

27:15We won't do anything, can't manage to get anything passed, however you want to contextualize

27:22this. Buck, tell me what you think about these two solutions.

27:25One, mutuality. If we can't become citizens of your country, then you should not be

27:34able to become citizens of our country.

27:37Let me explain how that would work.

27:39If you and I got invited to Beijing and one of us had a wife

27:44who was pregnant, Laura has had three, let's say Carrie is pregnant, and suddenly she

27:50had a baby in Beijing, that baby would not be Chinese.

27:55Why should Americans be able to travel to China and have babies there, and their

28:01kids, our kids, do not become citizens of China, but Chinese citizens become citizens of

28:08America? One easy solution to me that is very commonplace is reciprocity.

28:17If you are not doing for us what we are doing for you, then it

28:22should not exist. That seems very logical, very common sense.

28:26There's a lot of examples of this, for instance, in law.

28:32Sometimes you can wave in to other jurisdictions and become a lawyer for purposes of

28:38practice in other states, but it's very common that if one state, let's say I'm

28:44licensed in Tennessee right now, I can't become a lawyer in Florida by just waving

28:50in, I don't think, or California.

28:53And so if California and Florida will not allow that to happen, then I think

28:58Tennessee will not allow you to wave in from those states because we're being treated

29:02differently. Reciprocity makes very much sense to me.

29:05That's one. I don't know if it could pass, but I'm going to ask Jim

29:08Jordan. That seems very reasonable.

29:10It's a way to go after birthright citizenship because I doubt that China is going

29:15to suddenly say, oh, by the way, you can travel Americans to China and all

29:20your people become Chinese citizens as well.

29:23Now, Buck, you don't think dual citizenship should exist.

29:25I kind of agree with that in theory, but this is one way to chip

29:28away at the concept of birthright citizenship by saying you have to treat Americans as

29:34we are treating you. If you're going to take advantage of our country, then Americans

29:38should have the ability to take advantage of your country too.

29:41What it creates, unfortunately, because America is so much better than other countries, is some

29:46countries might be willing to create that mutuality.

29:49I'm sure Somalia would be like, hey, if you want Somali citizenship, we'll trade you.

29:54Okay, so, but the problem is Somali, we have it right now already, but what

29:59it would do is, if there's truly millions of people doing this from China, I

30:02think it would strip away China's ability, for instance, and Japan and all the European

30:07countries from being able to take advantage of this.

30:10Okay, here's a second one.

30:12What if when you enter the country, we insisted that if you are pregnant, you

30:19have to spend multiple months in this country instead of being able to travel in

30:24for a week or two, take advantage of all of the American medical treatments.

30:29I don't know about you, when you went through pregnancy, first of all, it's reckless.

30:33When someone is eight months pregnant, to put them on an airplane and decide to

30:38fly them from a foreign country or seven months pregnant or whatever else, at some

30:41point in time, you remember this, Buck, they said, hey, it's probably better for you

30:46not to be on an airplane for a long flight if you're a pregnant woman.

30:49That is very standard advice.

30:51If we said, you cannot be in the United States for a short period of

30:57time, four months, five months, you have to spend in this country in order for

31:02your child to be considered an American citizen, I think that would also interdict, drive

31:08back the chances of people being able to come to the country.

31:11So both of those seem like reasonable ways to address constitutionally a decision that is

31:19likely to come down from the Supreme Court that says, hey, birthright citizenship by soil

31:25is constitutional. Do those seem like somewhat reasonable, rational, again, I know reasonable and rational

31:32doesn't get passed often by Congress, but both of those seem like reasonable, rational ways

31:37to try to dial back the incentive of people coming here just to have babies

31:42so that they're American citizens.

31:45Yeah, they're reasonable and rational.

31:47The Democrats won't want them.

31:48But can Republicans pass them?

31:51I'm sorry? Do you think Republicans could pass them in the limited amount of time

31:56that we have? I don't have a lot of faith in Republicans either.

31:58Like, we can say Democrats won't pass them.

32:02Republicans can't pass anything either, and we've got the House and the Senate by and

32:05large. We can't get anything done.

32:07I think this filibuster thing is dumb.

32:09Yeah. Not the filibuster as a basic concept.

32:14Which I think goes all the way back to like the origins of the term

32:20filibuster. I think it has to do, the word itself is like French.

32:24It has to do with like pirates.

32:28I'll get back to that in a second.

32:30Basically, it's like you're hijacking the situation is what a filibuster is.

32:35But I think that we don't have a 60 -vote requirement in the Constitution.

32:39Why are people pretending like we have a 60 -vote requirement in the Constitution?

32:42It's and it must be...

32:42let me switch to a society into a situation when it opened.

32:42So that's the question... However, and people are saying oh well democrats will do all

32:45these crazy things okay well then the american people can see the crazy things they

32:49do and make decisions based upon it there's still a lot of bad laws that

32:52have been passed even with this requirement it just feels like this is an incumbency

32:55protection program where nobody ever has to take a hard vote and nobody ever has

32:59to actually live with the consequences of getting what they want i i don't know

33:04i've i've started to become a little more radical on this people are sitting here

33:07they're going what about the save act i'm like yes yes great never gonna happen

33:10unless they get rid of the filibuster you say oh but what about if we

33:13use parliamentary procedure in the standing filibuster we show the american people okay nice idea

33:18still not going to get the save act democrats won't do it republicans won't even

33:22all do it by the way so that's that's my concern we can't get anything

33:27passed and this is where i get so many of you out there so frustrated

33:30that we've got i don't know how often it's going to happen buck that we

33:34have a republican president republican senate republican house all three right now we have in

33:40theory a majority of republican appointees on the supreme court and yet it feels like

33:44they can't do anything you we need to start just living with the consequences of

33:49elections and that means if you win the house you win the senate and you

33:53win the presidency you get to do things within the you know within the scope

33:56of the constitution you get to do things elections have consequences we have this sort

34:02of halfway thing of like nobody ever has to really know america should get what

34:06it wants and get it long and hard like we should actually have a government

34:09that can take action that is meaningful beyond some of these carve -outs that we

34:15have you know what you know what they don't have this issue with budgets you

34:18know why everybody wants to spend yeah spend spend spend easiest thing in the world

34:24everybody in congress they're all a bunch of little piggies at the treasury trough and

34:29they don't want to stop the spending is automatic everything else is like meh can

34:34we name a post office sure it's it's absurd it's absurd this whole 60 vote

34:39filibuster thing i know people are like no it's important the senate tempers the passions

34:43no it's made up get rid of it actually just have people vote and get

34:48the again we have a constitution we have an anchoring system for this you can't

34:52just do anything you know we have laws in place we have statutes but what

34:56all it means clay is that you know you know when the last time somebody

34:59got a super let you know got the super legislative uh uh majority was obamacare

35:04which is a disaster a disaster well and so you're sitting here like well what

35:08exactly are we uh uh we're holding ourselves back from doing a good thing with

35:14the save act this is why president trump has enacted so much of his agenda

35:20through his executive authority which then remember court as we see this morning the only

35:25reason the border is secure is because president trump issued his executive authority the reason

35:31why we bombed iran was there's typically more uh credence or space given to presidents

35:37in foreign affairs i get why exactly this is what i'm saying he has the

35:41powers though to do this so the executive order is really just a way of

35:43saying the president chose to do the thing that he's allowed to do allowed to

35:46do right they can try to challenge out whether he has the ability to do

35:51it right through separation of powers which is the big picture question but again the

35:56first everybody's going to be angry at the supreme court when we're when we're predicting

36:01that they say birthright citizenship is the law of the land where i'm saying is

36:06your anger should actually be with congress because they won't fix anything they're basically worthless

36:13and if democrats take back control of the house they're going to impeach president trump

36:19nothing's going to happen and i'm almost to the point where i just am like

36:24just don't do anything i don't know that they're making anything better for anyone's life

36:30most years that they are on capitol hill by the way clay filibuster comes from

36:36the dutch freebooter which is a freebooter or a pirate and it passed into the

36:43french with from freebooter to filibustier and filibustero to describe caribbean pirates so to filibuster

36:51is in fact to be a pirate among congress i love that history i didn't

36:58know that i will say this he looked at me like i was insane when

37:01i was saying by the way he was like i didn't know he looked at

37:03me like i needed a nap or something like i was pulling a full biden

37:06here pirates of the caribbean i know the parlay concept we need to parlay that's

37:11a great series of movies i will say buck the other part about the filibuster

37:15as soon as democrats have control they're going to do away with it 100 so

37:20you're just sitting around talking about standing up for a principle that the other side

37:26will not respect when they have the opportunity to do away with it it's not

37:30even a principle what is the principle i get it won the election this is

37:34a self -imposed principle this is like we could win but we don't want to

37:38win because winning is mean what are you talking about it makes no sense it

37:43makes no people say democrats will do these insane things okay and we'll see the

37:47insane things that they're trying to do or that they do well no i think

37:50i think that if they win back control of the of the presidency in the

37:54house and the senate i think that they will expand the supreme court i think

37:58that they will decide to give statehood to places like washington dc to add senators

38:04um and i think they'll do it by a bare majority so for people out

38:08there who are saying and there are a lot of republicans that say that, well,

38:12we've got to stay committed to not doing away with the principle.

38:16Biden tried to do away with it.

38:17The only reason that it didn't happen was because you had Joe Manchin in West

38:22Virginia and because you had Kyrsten Sinema in Arizona.

38:26Oh, by the way, they're not there anymore.

38:29Who are the Democrats that are maybe Fetterman?

38:31Maybe Fetterman would say, hey, this isn't a good idea.

38:34Other than that, they're going to do away with it.

38:37I'm just telling you. So the idea of not doing away with it because it's

38:41important precedent, the precedent is going to get tossed out the way as soon as

38:44they have the power to do it.

38:46Do you guys think after eight years of Democrats losing their minds over Trump, they're

38:52going to be reasonable? Remember, this is only if they win the presidency, the Congress,

38:56the House, and the Senate, right?

38:57But if they win all three of those, you think that they're going to be

38:59reasonable and they're going to keep the filibuster after Trump for eight years?

39:03No way. No way. I agree.

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40:39Third hour of Clay and Buck gets going right now.

40:41Jim Jordan, member of Congress, with us right now from the great state of Ohio.

40:48Congressman Jordan, thanks for being here, sir.

40:50Clay is saying that your august institution of the Congress, largely to blame collectively, not

40:59you, sir, of course, but to blame collectively for the mess that is citizenship by

41:06birth, immigration, all this stuff right now after the Supreme Court arguments.

41:10What do you think? Well, I think our argument is actually strong in the president's

41:15position, which is our position.

41:17We filed a brief with the court that, you know, when you look at the

41:2214th Amendment, there's that key clause in there, subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

41:25And I think that's important because if someone comes into your country illegally and gives

41:32birth to a child here, that shouldn't, because they were here, weren't subject to the

41:38jurisdiction thereof because they were in an illegal fashion.

41:41I think that's important. And that's kind of, I think, where you hang your hat

41:45when you're making the argument that we're making.

41:47We'll see if the Supreme Court buys it.

41:49But, you know, I hadn't had a chance to listen to the debate today, but

41:54we'll just have to see.

41:56Jim, thanks for coming on.

41:58Okay, I'm going to hit you with two things that, so I think this is

42:01not you signing on to this opinion.

42:03I think the Supreme Court is going to say the president doesn't have the executive

42:06authority to do this. And so I just want to hit you with a hypothetical.

42:11If, you know, Buck's lovely wife, Carrie, if they were on a nice honeymoon trip

42:16to Beijing, Bernie Sanders style, or post -honeymoon, but she's pregnant, they go there, and

42:24they have a baby in Beijing, that child is not an American, is of American

42:29citizens, would be an American citizen, it certainly wouldn't be a Chinese citizen because they

42:33don't allow by -soil citizenship.

42:35I think a lot of people are frustrated when they look at this to say,

42:38wait, Chinese citizens are coming here in huge numbers, having babies on our soil, and

42:46then going right back to China, and they've got an American citizen.

42:49That is madness. Can Congress do anything, in your mind, if the Supreme Court says

42:55the president doesn't have executive authority to address this birth tourism issue in a significant

43:01way? Well, two things. One, yeah, you're making the basic common sense argument.

43:07This does not stand up to common sense.

43:09I understand the Constitution, what it says.

43:11That's why I went right to that clause in the 14th Amendment.

43:14So I get all that.

43:16But, yeah, what we can do is what we've been working on doing is, like,

43:19seal the border, secure the border, which President Trump has done, and then stop this

43:24sanctuary jurisdiction and all that that involves, and all the other crazy things that the

43:28left is doing. I mean, I think we talked last time, we just passed legislation

43:32out of our committee that says we're going to get rid of this sanctuary jurisdiction

43:34concept, which applies to now almost a third of the country.

43:37So, yeah. Those are the things that we need to do.

43:41Now, if we pass a law that deals with birthright citizenship, it's going to be

43:46right back in front of the Supreme Court, right back, and they're going to point

43:49to the Constitution and cite the same reasons they're going to cite probably now.

43:53So I don't know that that changes anything, but what we've got to do is

43:55just enforce the law and deal with the situation, which is – I gave this

43:58speech Friday night on the House floor when we were debating the bill that the

44:02Senate sent over and said they let in 8 to 10 million people.

44:05Then they create sanctuary jurisdictions, and now they don't want to fund the people who

44:08are going out to get them, the ICE agent, and they're going to take their

44:11money away. It wasn't enough to spit on them, dox them, track them, harass them.

44:14Now they want to say we're not going to pay you to do the job

44:17that we're making it so tough for you to do because we let in 10

44:20million people and gave them sanctuary status.

44:23I mean, that's craziness. So, Congressman, can you just tell us where this whole thing

44:30stands with the ICE funding currently?

44:33We know the TSA lines.

44:35We've been covering that a lot here on the show.

44:36It seems like that now is not an issue.

44:40You had the Senate on, what, March 27th voice vote funding most of DHS.

44:46So that's TSA, FEMA, Coast Guard, but not the full ICE funding.

44:49And then you got the House on March 27th, rejected the Senate's version.

44:54What the heck is going on?

44:57Yeah, the left is being crazy.

44:59I mean, they shut down the government last fall for 42 days, and now they're

45:03shutting it down for 40 -some days here this spring, and who knows how long

45:07it's going to go. It's just another ridiculous position they take.

45:10But that's the scenario or the situation is that, yeah, they don't want to pay

45:15ICE agents and Border Patrol.

45:16And, frankly, you don't ever want to establish the precedent that you're going to fund

45:21all of the government except the enforcement side of DHS, which is what the precedent

45:28would have been if we would have allowed that to go through.

45:31So the House said no to it.

45:33All of us Republicans voted against what the Senate had said.

45:37We passed back a clean, clean bill, which said, no, just fund everyone, fund ICE

45:42agents, fund the people who are going out there, facing the harassment from the agitators

45:46on the left, dealing with what all they have to deal with, doing their job,

45:50make sure they get funded fully, not this partial deal that Chuck Schumer and the

45:55Democrats wanted to do in the United States Senate.

45:58How frustrated do you think President Trump is right now?

46:01You know him well. It seems like I was watching his press conference yesterday, and

46:07I know he was at the birthright citizenship argument today on the Supreme Court.

46:12And you and I were there for the college sports roundtable.

46:16And near the end, you could see him near the end of the college sports

46:19roundtable when they started talking about everything that judges are doing and Democrats in Congress.

46:25It was just you could just see the blood pressure boiling on him.

46:28He seems I know everything going on in Iran, but certainly he seems very frustrated

46:32with the slowness of movement with the American political process.

46:37Is that fair to say, you think?

46:38Oh, I think it's very fair to say he's a guy who gets things done.

46:41He's a guy who is focused on results and doing what he said he would

46:46do when he ran for the job.

46:48And so, yeah, it's frustrating.

46:49But I think his frustration is no different than the American people.

46:52They see it all too.

46:55And they look at the left and they're like, why do you take the positions

46:58you do? Why don't you just fund the government?

47:00Just like pay the ICE agents to do the job.

47:02So, of course, he's frustrated.

47:04But I think the American people are.

47:06And I think it's, you know, coming upon us Republicans to keep doing all we

47:11can to get just common sense things done, but also to tell the public, to

47:15tell the people he held up.

47:17And it is truly the left, their crazy positions, and their just pure hatred of

47:24President Trump, which is ridiculous as well.

47:26How is this Iran war playing out, as you see it at this stage, Congressman?

47:31I think Trump's addressing the nation tonight at 9 o 'clock.

47:34He's going to be calling out NATO for not stepping up to help out with

47:39the Strait of Hormuz. You know, I feel like a lot of people are either

47:43declaring this right now a huge win or a huge catastrophe.

47:48And I'm like, well, it's still happening.

47:50So how can we know what exactly has happened?

47:53Because we don't. But at this stage, what's your sense of how it's going?

48:00Well, I was listening to you guys a couple days ago, and I think you

48:03guys had the right take on it.

48:04I think the vast majority of Republicans think that the president's doing what he said

48:08and that this is the right thing to do when you think about the 47

48:13years of this terrorist regime killing Americans, killing Israelis, killing others, killing thousands of their

48:18own people, for goodness sake.

48:20And you cannot let them get a nuclear weapon, which President Trump campaigned on, ran

48:23on, and was part of what he promised the American people.

48:26So I think the vast majority of Republicans say like, okay, we're with the president.

48:30I certainly am. And I think people with common sense say, yeah, you do not

48:35want this crazy regime having a nuclear capability.

48:38But we also see that everyone sees the price of gas.

48:41I was actually in California, and you pull up at $6 .99.

48:45Of course, that's driven by some of the crazy things in California.

48:47But I'm like, I looked at that sign on the gas.

48:49I'm like, holy cow. So we want it to be over as quickly as possible.

48:53But I think most people, again, with common sense say you have to achieve the

48:58objective. And the objective is clearly do not let this crazy regime have nuclear capability.

49:06their weapons and the country understands that so we'll see what the president says tonight

49:10but as we've talked about many times he's a guy who does what he said

49:14he's a guy that you know says he's going to accomplish the goal he's going

49:16to get there and uh this is certainly something he told us he was going

49:19to do i agree with all that um you know and i think you would

49:23probably agree with this if we've been saying on the program everybody you remember everybody

49:28said oh minneapolis is going to be the moment that defines the midterms and now

49:33unless you live in minneapolis or minnesota nobody's talking about that uh right now iran

49:39iran iran gas prices it's you know the first day of april if this war

49:44uh or this uh this uh whatever you want to call it people say you

49:49know the president says not officially a war because congress hasn't acted but let's say

49:53this uh this action uh undertaken by president trump if it's over by may 1

49:58which i think it will be then we're going to be right back to the

50:01economy i think driving the boat as it pertains to people's reactions post labor day

50:07do you buy into that and if so how does that become the focal point

50:12of the midterm election in your mind well the economy is always you know pretty

50:18darn central to any national election uh midterm or presidential and i assume that's going

50:24to be the case again uh i think you're right in the in the era

50:27of modern american politics in the era of president trump that the news cycle is

50:31like every three minutes so yeah things things are going to change we don't know

50:34what's going to happen between now and in october but it would be nice if

50:38we got this economy back where we wanted uh and prices of of things began

50:42to come down particularly gas prices because it's something we all see and feel every

50:45day um and i think that's likely to happen in light of the big beautiful

50:49bill we passed and now i think we're going to do a second reconciliation i

50:52think we have to in order to deal with this fraud issue you think we're

50:55going to get democrats in the congress to help us deal with the rampant fraud

50:58happening around the country no we're going to do that on our own so let's

51:02do that let's make sure we replenish the troops with the supplies they need after

51:06this effort in in iran and let's make sure make sure we we handle the

51:11things and maybe even dhs has to happen with reconciliation to make sure ice gets

51:14paid uh we'll but let's do that and i think that will help with economic

51:19growth as well uh but certainly the big beautiful belt bill with the largest tax

51:23cut in american history that's a good thing and that's starting to kick in i

51:26think going to help our economy congressman i was at a book event last night

51:31and yes i was asked did you in fact hit a 103 mile an hour

51:36serve and i of course and i said well yes not everyone agreed that that

51:40was going to happen but that did happen but but also on on the real

51:44i was asked uh i was asked a question that i want to pose i

51:47want to pose to you now which is how are we looking for the midterms

51:51what's your real assessment of that right now i mean i i know we're always

51:55optimistic here you're an optimistic guy you're a winner you're not going to cry about

51:59things and say oh my gosh all those laws i know that asking this question

52:03but just give us some context for what do you think has to happen between

52:07now and election day so that they can't so that we don't lose the house

52:12and then they just stymied trump's agenda for the rest of his time the rest

52:15of his time in office well and you all know the facts historically midterms are

52:20top when you're the party in power in the white house so we we get

52:22that the energy right now the left is driven by they're just this you know

52:26trump arrangement syndrome which is a as you all know a real phenomena they're driven

52:30by that you saw these there's no king baloney they did over the weekend and

52:34so there's some energy on the left but we're raising money we're recruiting good candidates

52:40and again in the in the in modern american politics in the era of trump

52:45he has changed things look at our state our state ohio used to be the

52:49bellwether state in any presidential election it was a 50 50 state president trump won

52:54ohio by eight and a half eight and a half eleven and a half in

52:57the last three elections things have changed so i don't think conventional wisdom i was

53:03in california helping one of our colleagues and raising money for our candidates we're busting

53:07our tail doing all the work we got to do and like you say i'm

53:10an optimistic guy because we're an american you got to be optimistic we live in

53:14the greatest country ever so i think we can still do it but let's be

53:18honest it's going to be hard it is going to be hard uh but i

53:21learned a long time ago anything worth doing is always hard that's just the way

53:24the good lord made it we're going to we're going to stay after it and

53:27i think we can win are you optimistic um that congress going to be able

53:31to do anything we're in the middle of the final four uh ncaa tournament has

53:35been a lot of fun setting record ratings are you optimistic that call that congress

53:39going to be able to do anything to help get the mess in college athletics

53:43fixed i am and i want to you know uh clay we've talked about getting

53:48the score act passed uh we we got to get that done because we got

53:51to get some ball and get some action on something so that we have to

53:56do it um i wanted to do it last fall like you did in the

54:00middle of the football season but um if if we don't do something i think

54:04it's going to continue to deteriorate you're going to get more transfers and people want

54:08to play 10 years in college and on and on it goes and and it

54:11hurts everybody and like you like we started here you you felt the just like

54:16i did you saw the frustration with the president i think that i think that

54:18frustration with college sports fans all over so we're looking to do a hearing we're

54:23going to we're going to we're going to bring you in and let you talk

54:25to uh the american people into congress at some point here this spring talking about

54:30all these issues because there's things in professional sports that i think are a concern

54:34well you want you're a fan you want to watch i always joke you want

54:37to watch the browns lose every week in a football season in ohio for goodness

54:41sake it costs you like a thousand bucks 1200 bucks and you still can't find

54:44him is it on the is it on you know is it streaming is it

54:48on network or is it on cable or do i got to do so we

54:51want to look at that issue too so there's a number that i think makes

54:53sense for uh and and i unfortunately i think require congress to do to do

54:58something well look we know how hard you're working we know how much energy you

55:02have trying to get things solved up there so thanks for everything you're always going

55:05to be a big friend of the show and i'm looking forward to seeing you

55:07uh at that testimony uh here coming up to try to get some stuff resolved

55:12there yeah thanks for all you guys are doing take care that's congressman jim jordan

55:16uh with us talking about all of the battles going on on capitol hill right

55:20now buck take us to the break and we'll get to some of your calls

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55:27i gotta say it's a good thing you know your optimism is uh yeah you

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1:01:04So we are talking here about the situation in Iran and all of the latest

1:01:11that we can expect from the president tonight.

1:01:14Now, a few things for this.

1:01:18First of all, Clay, the president's saying that things are looking great from his perspective.

1:01:26Overall, overall, this is a fantastically successful military mission.

1:01:30That's the word from the White House, more or less.

1:01:34In fact, here, we could have Trump weigh in on this one.

1:01:38Here, let's listen to one.

1:01:39This is from yesterday. This is cut 11 on his Iran timeline.

1:01:44This is what he's saying.

1:01:46I think we're two or three weeks.

1:01:47We'll leave. There's no reason for us to do this.

1:01:50Look, problem with this trade, a guy can take a mine, drop it in the

1:01:53water, and say, oh, it's unsafe.

1:01:55It's not like you're taking out an army, or you're taking out a country, or

1:01:58you can drop it. Or you can take a machine gun from the shore, shoot

1:02:01a little few bullets on a ship, or maybe an over -the -shoulder missile, small

1:02:06missiles. That's not for us.

1:02:08That'll be for France. That'll be for whoever's using this trade.

1:02:11But I think when we leave, probably that's all cleared up.

1:02:14Today, I heard tremendous numbers of ships we're sailing through.

1:02:17We're negotiating with them right now.

1:02:19Again, we have had regime change.

1:02:21Now, regime change was not one of the things I had as a goal.

1:02:24I had one goal. They will have no nuclear weapon.

1:02:26And that goal has been attained.

1:02:28They will not have nuclear weapons.

1:02:31Clay, he's saying the goal has been achieved.

1:02:34Now we have to get the straight open.

1:02:36But he's also been frustrated with European allies here.

1:02:41Emmanuel Macron of France has said the strikes are outside of international law.

1:02:47Britain's Keir Starmer, who makes Brian Stelter look like Conan the Barbarian, he is declaring

1:02:55it not our war. So Starmer is just in general a very wimpy guy and

1:03:00letting Britain fall as a civilization.

1:03:03And Italy and Spain have denied U .S.

1:03:06warplanes from being able to land at their bases or flying through their airspace as

1:03:10part of the Iran campaign, Clay.

1:03:13So some of our European friends are irking Trump.

1:03:17And I think we're going to hear quite a bit about that tonight at nine

1:03:19o 'clock Eastern. Well, this is the big story.

1:03:22Now, oil and gas is a global marketplace, which is important.

1:03:27But I think what President Trump just said is also important, which is the Strait

1:03:32of Hormuz. We can have pretty much free ingress, egress, whatever you want to say

1:03:38through the straight. And all it takes is one bomb to potentially scare the owners

1:03:42of oil tankers, which you could understand if you had a ship and you knew

1:03:47that there was a I don't know what I don't know what the risk tolerance

1:03:51is, a good question. If we had a shipping magnet who delivers oil through the

1:03:56Persian Gulf, I would bet one in a hundred.

1:04:00If you knew there was a one in a hundred chance that your oil tanker

1:04:03would get blown up, I don't think you'd probably go.

1:04:05Maybe you'd take the chances at one in a thousand.

1:04:07I mean, this would be good because it basically just comes down to risk tolerance,

1:04:10right? How frequently can Iran have a significant enough impact on a oil or gas

1:04:16tanker, which you can all imagine when it hits an oil or gas tanker, it

1:04:21goes up in a hurry, right?

1:04:22We're not talking about being able to easily put out a fire or deal with

1:04:27this when a drone or a missile or some sort of easy to carry device

1:04:33is created in incendiary nature.

1:04:36So the big issue that I see here is what President Trump is pointing out,

1:04:41Buck, is it's actually not that impactful to the United States whether the Strait of

1:04:46Hormuz is wide open, because thankfully we have created enough oil and gas independence that

1:04:52that things are pretty good in terms of the United States oil and gas access.

1:04:57In fact, I was with a friend over the weekend who was in the oil

1:05:02and gas industry, and she said, hey, you know, the oil and gas people aren't

1:05:07really that upset that the price of oil and gas has gone up because President

1:05:11Trump's desired price around $50 a barrel.

1:05:14It's so hard. A lot of you guys listening in Texas, it's hard for the

1:05:17oil and gas companies to make very much money at profitably at $50 a barrel

1:05:22gas oil and gas. They are in order to encourage more oil and gas drilling.

1:05:29And so there's not a lot of people in Texas right now that are actually

1:05:32that upset. And given that a lot of the money stays in the United States,

1:05:37we have basically energy independence here.

1:05:40But Europe doesn't. And so the people that are actually impacted by the Strait of

1:05:45Hormuz are European, they are Chinese, and they have done nothing to try to put

1:05:50pressure on Iran to open up the Strait of Hormuz.

1:05:53Now, there is talk as we began this show.

1:05:56So here is Rubio, by the way, saying cut 17.

1:06:00We actually depend very little.

1:06:02This is last night, I believe, on Sean Hannity's show.

1:06:05Rubio saying what I'm telling you guys, which is this is not that significant to

1:06:09the American consumer. We're not using that oil and gas.

1:06:13Cut 17. The Strait of Hormuz, those are international waters, right?

1:06:16So anything Iran does to impede commercial traffic is illegal.

1:06:20For all these countries that love to talk about international law, it is a violation

1:06:23of international maritime law to impede the free flow of travel in international waters.

1:06:28OK, so that's number one.

1:06:29Number two, it's illegal to bomb and hit and attack commercial shipping and sink them.

1:06:34I mean, that's what the Nazis did during World War II in the Atlantic.

1:06:37And that's what they're doing now to ships that they that from countries they don't

1:06:40like that are flagged by countries they don't like.

1:06:43These are terroristic acts that they're undertaking.

1:06:45And so the United States gets very little energy through the Straits of Hormuz.

1:06:48Our allies ship out a lot of oil through there, meaning our Gulf allies and

1:06:52certainly countries in Asia and Europe depend on it.

1:06:54We depend very little on the Straits.

1:06:57OK, so, Buck, it seems clear to me that President Trump is going to lean

1:07:02on Europe, on China, on Japan, other countries that depend on the Straits of Hormuz

1:07:07more. There are reports and I'll it's hard to even keep up because we say

1:07:12something and then somebody from Iran immediately says it's not true.

1:07:16And then there's another story that spirals out of that.

1:07:18But it seems to be the case that there is the potential and we'll see

1:07:22what President Trump says tonight of a ceasefire from the United States and Israel.

1:07:27If Iran would commit to allowing the Strait of Hormuz to be back wide open,

1:07:32with the idea being that President Trump, by and large, has already knocked out a

1:07:37lot of the top targets.

1:07:38Does that seem like a fair assessment of where we are?

1:07:41What Iran would give up is free shipping through the Strait of Hormuz or price

1:07:46of oil and gas would collapse again in a hurry.

1:07:49And what we would do is say, OK, we've hit you enough.

1:07:51We feel like the new leadership we can work with.

1:07:54I think that's kind of where we are, probably something like that.

1:07:57And and I think Trump, he's saying this it's two weeks or so will be

1:08:02finished up here. He's clearly trying to keep the pressure on so that there can

1:08:07be some deal while the Iranians still feel like they can get hit.

1:08:12You know, that's that's the leverage, right?

1:08:13That's the you know, the the knee on the on the chest here of the

1:08:19Iranian regime. It's, hey, you better you better come up with something here or else

1:08:23we can still hit you.

1:08:25So that makes sense to me.

1:08:28The achievement of the end of the Iranian nuclear program.

1:08:32We'll see. I think he said it back quite a bit.

1:08:35That's that's true. I don't know if he's eliminated that chance forever.

1:08:41I would I would doubt that, especially considering a year ago we had all the

1:08:45airstrikes on the nuke facilities and then we needed more strikes on more nuke facilities.

1:08:50So we'll see. You know, I feel like the isn't it in Charlie Wilson's war.

1:08:57Tom Hanks is talking to a guy who actually died, I think, from a drug

1:09:02overdose a few years ago.

1:09:03A very good actor. You know, I'm talking about he plays more Hoffman.

1:09:08Gus Avracados in the in this in the movie.

1:09:11Yeah. Philip. Thank you. Philip Seymour Hoffman.

1:09:13That's exactly right. But they're talking and he does the, you know, the man gets

1:09:17a horse and he says, isn't this a blessing?

1:09:19And he goes, we'll see.

1:09:20And he falls off the horse and he breaks his leg and he goes, isn't

1:09:22this terrible? And we'll see.

1:09:24And then he's recruited for war, but he can't go because his broken leg.

1:09:27And, you know, we'll see.

1:09:29I feel a little bit of that with this Iran situation right now.

1:09:32Yes, the military side of it.

1:09:33But we have shown the world that our military is so much more capable and

1:09:37has so much more ferocity than anything that like an Iranian regime.

1:09:41So that's changed perception considerably.

1:09:43By the way, I think China looks at all this with the whole Taiwan situation.

1:09:47And they're like, oh, these Americans are really good at this war thing.

1:09:51No, just saying. And we are.

1:09:53We are very good at this war thing.

1:09:54So that is clear. The long -term strategic implications, what this means, if anything, for

1:10:00the oil markets, I think that's still playing out.

1:10:02I think that's 100 % right.

1:10:04Stock market, by the way, has come back in a big way yesterday up over

1:10:081 ,000 points another day of surging stock market prices.

1:10:12So the impact in general, I think, of the sell -off has not been very

1:10:18substantial. And again, what I've said from the get -go is oil and gas prices

1:10:21matter in a big way.

1:10:22And if you look at what oil and gas prices are in September and October,

1:10:28I think that will give you a great illustration of exactly what we should expect.

1:10:32I will say, Buck, I was telling you this off -air, poly market, which is

1:10:36the prediction market, they have an 86 % chance that Democrats are going to take

1:10:42back control of the House right now.

1:10:44That means if you are out there listening to us right now and you disagree,

1:10:48you can make an 8 -to -1, roughly, return by saying Republicans are going to

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1:10:55The markets. are telling you that that is unlikely to happen more ominously than that

1:11:01right now it's a little bit over 50 50 that democrats are going to take

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1:11:11price of oil and gas is going to go a very very long way towards

1:11:16how people feel um about the affordability issues in the fall and right now uh

1:11:23republicans this is being honest with you are big underdogs to retain control of the

1:11:28house and are now favored to lose the senate too now could these prediction markets

1:11:34be wrong yes can they change yes but where the markets are right now i

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1:11:43going forward and if you're frustrated with congress now imagine what's going to happen if

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