Team 47 - Make America Smart Again
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0:35Team 47 with Clay and Buck starts now.
0:39Both Buck and I love American history.
0:42We are huge history nerds.
0:44We regularly talk about it a ton, and we are joined by someone else who
0:49is a major history aficionado.
0:52She is Linda McMahon, Secretary of Education of the United States, and we are now
0:57celebrating America 250, and we've been talking about America 250 quite a bit on the
1:03program, even though we're early into the year.
1:06And, Secretary McMahon, we appreciate you coming on right now.
1:10You are announcing a Presidential 1776 Award.
1:16Historical literacy is a major issue among young people in the United States today.
1:22Tell us what this competition will do and what you're hoping it will create.
1:29Well, thanks so much for having me on, and I appreciate the fact that you
1:33are both such historical buffs and put such emphasis on it because I can tell
1:39you it's not been emphasized much in our country as we see, unfortunately, through our
1:45scores across the country when kids are tested on their civics or historical knowledge.
1:51And so this is part of the President's Initiative, this 1776 award, in conjunction with
1:57the celebration, our 250th birthday for the country.
2:02And so to generate interest, he wanted to create the civics award, so the registration
2:08is open right now for students who want to enroll.
2:14And what they do is they're going to sign up to take the world's impossible
2:20test. They have 90 minutes online to answer 4 ,000 questions.
2:26That's called the impossible test.
2:27Wow. And I would think it would be.
2:31But, you know, ever how many they get, not how many they answer, but how
2:35many they answer correctly, of course, you know, will determine the winner in each round.
2:41So it's a three -round competition, and the top winners are going to receive –
2:47the very top winner will receive a scholarship of $150 ,000, and second place is
2:52$75 ,000, and third place is $25 ,000.
2:55And so, you know, it's conducted a little bit like a national spelling bee.
2:59There'll be, you know, the first round of competition, and then we'll have, you know,
3:03regionals and districts, and then three winners will come to Washington, D .C.
3:08in June of this year, and we'll have the final competition, and then the awards
3:14will be made. So it's created a lot of excitement.
3:17So we're very happy. We're sending notices out, you know, to teachers, to organizations, to
3:25schools, to principals, to everyone, and getting it online so that as many people can
3:31be notified that it's a fun thing to do with a great, you know, potential
3:35reward. So they can go to presidential1776award .org to register.
3:45Have you thought about giving media this test?
3:47Because when you're describing this, I actually think this would be real.
3:51I would like to take it.
3:53I know I'm not eligible, but 4 ,000 questions, 90 minutes.
3:57I think it would be really fun if you got some media out there that
4:01cover the White House and beyond.
4:05I would take this. I think it would be interesting to see what kind of
4:08scores people might post. Well, Travis, I think you should just launch your own initiative
4:14to do that. This is not a bad idea.
4:16Buck, would you take this test?
4:18Would you sit that 90 -minute American history 1776 test?
4:22I think I would take it.
4:23It would be you and me versus Don Lemon and, you know.
4:30I would put you and I on the 1776 test as a team up against
4:37any duo in media in the country.
4:40I think we would win.
4:40Do you think anybody could beat us that actually has a daily show?
4:43My normal humility, Secretary McMahon, disappears on this one.
4:47Clay and I would smoke any of the libs out there.
4:50I think so. Yeah, it would be the Clay and Buck civics challenge.
4:54I like this. This would be fun.
4:56I think this is fun.
4:56I don't think anybody would actually take us on, but I will take it.
4:59Secretary McMahon, we will reach out for you and see if we can set up
5:03a time to take this and see if we can smoke everybody out there.
5:06I also want to ask you, as you're running a very large agency of the
5:13government, what are you doing with education these days?
5:17It's a big thing. It's massive.
5:18It's huge. Secretary, how are you going to fix education in America under the Trump
5:23administration? Well, you know. So the president's executive order is to return education to the
5:30states and take bureaucracy that exists in Washington out of our education process.
5:37So, in other words, instead of, you know, all of the money that is appropriated
5:43by Congress flowing through the Department of Education and then to the states, which does
5:48create more regulation, more red tape, et cetera, it is my goal to move the
5:54different agencies or departments, if you will, within the Department of Education to other agencies
6:01of the United States government, which is where they existed before there was a department.
6:07You know, if you guys, and I know you guys know this fact, but the
6:11Department of Education was not established until 1980, and since that time, we've spent $3
6:16trillion on education, just throwing more money at the problem, and watched our national scores
6:22continue to decline. So we're clearly doing something wrong, and the president believes, and I
6:27agree with him, that the best education is that that's closest to the child, that
6:32it is controlled by the state superintendents and district superintendents and teachers and, most importantly,
6:39parents, who have then insight into what is being taught to their children.
6:43So this, the dismantling, if you will, of the department and moving it to other
6:48agencies will make it more efficient, and I do believe that there will be greater
6:55satisfaction with what's going to be happening with education once this job is completed.
7:01One of the things that I think is most interesting and maybe extraordinary when it
7:05comes to educational accomplishment is what the state of Mississippi has done.
7:10And they, and I know you probably have studied it quite a lot.
7:14I don't think most of the audience out there has gotten, become aware of it,
7:18but basically they went back to committing, and you can maybe explain better than me,
7:23but to old school style teaching and abandoned many of the quote unquote newfangled methods
7:30of instruction for children. And as a result, the kids in Mississippi, many of whom
7:36are drastically under underprivileged, you know, relative to socioeconomic status in the rest of the
7:43country, have seen their results skyrocket.
7:46And now other southern states in particular are copying them.
7:50What are they doing? Are you encouraged by what you've seen there?
7:53And is this a good example of the laboratory of state education giving us things
7:58that could work, for instance, in California, where the results are not good?
8:03You're exactly right in that this does prove the point about states being laboratories, because
8:09this is innovation that occurred at the state level, not at the federal level.
8:13This was not mandated by the federal government.
8:15And what the state of Mississippi did, and it's actually called the Mississippi Miracle, they
8:20adopted the science of reading.
8:23And it is exactly what you said.
8:25It was going back to the way reading was, you know, originally taught.
8:30Now, of course, there are some updates to the process, et cetera, but it's based
8:34on phonics. It's based on sounding out words and sounding out combinations of letters so
8:39that kids can learn to read.
8:41They're not just doing sight reading of whole words or concepts, which is what's really
8:46been, I think, the downfall of our literacy numbers throughout the country.
8:51And if children cannot read by the time they finish the third grade, then they
8:58are never going to be able to be successful because they'll just get farther and
9:03farther behind. So the science of reading, as it has been adopted, has proven to
9:08be so successful. And sometimes this is done in connection with what are called classical
9:14schools that are doing exactly what you just – Clay, I think it was you,
9:18what you were describing is going back to sort of the way schools were taught,
9:23you know, before. Now, that's working in many communities.
9:26Some communities, you know, have different kinds of schools.
9:31You know, there are charter schools, magnet schools, there are religious schools, there's homeschooling.
9:35And so – and microschools.
9:37And what I'm doing is touring all 50 states.
9:41I've been to about 30 now.
9:42And I have visited all of these many kinds of schools.
9:46I've even been to the Alpha School in Austin, Texas, which has its first two
9:52hours of instruction in the morning through AI, which is really like an individual tutoring
9:58session. And then the rest of the day is spent on applying the applications of
10:03what they learn. So my goal at the end of this term or as we
10:09are turning education back over to the states is to develop a toolkit of what
10:15has worked in most of these states and to just hand it over to the
10:20different states and say, look, these are the things that I've seen that work.
10:23This is how they work.
10:24This is who's doing it.
10:26Please be in contact with them if you so choose.
10:29And you know what? Governors and state superintendents, they're pretty competitive.
10:34No governor likes to see another state get ahead of them, you know, in terms
10:38of the success, especially, you know, with kids and education.
10:41So I think we're going to have a good impact.
10:44The beneficiaries of what we're doing will be our children and schools, you know, in
10:50general. And I'm very excited.
10:53about what we're doing secretary of education linda mcmahon with us now and uh miss
10:57secretary when we saw the minneapolis ice protests there was all this school closures uh
11:06administrative and and teaching staff going out to protest why is it that this just
11:13happens and there seems to be some acceptance that the school system is like the
11:19protest shock troops of the far left in this country well i can tell you
11:24you know if you just look at those protests from a common sense standpoint and
11:29and i and i as a parent if i if i was there now i
11:32can't stand in the shoes of the parents who were there but i would think
11:35why is my child not in school that day and if we look at what
11:40the scores are uh you know in in minnesota they're they're not sterling at all
11:46if you will i would want my children to be in school learning how to
11:50read how to do math uh how to solve their science problems and not out
11:56on the street in the bitter cold uh protesting and objecting to something that they
12:00might not even fully understand i think it's outrageous and if that were to continue
12:04i i can tell you that there would be investigation uh by us and they
12:09and those schools could be um you know in jeopardy of of having lost federal
12:14funding uh secretary of education linda mcmahon one more time i'm gonna try maybe you
12:20can have somebody on your team reach out i would like to take this test
12:23and see how i would do but uh we encourage so many people out there
12:27with kids and grandkids uh that are committed to history and want to learn more
12:32on the 250th anniversary of this country to compete that competition has an incredible uh
12:39award as you just told us uh how can they do that one more time
12:43well the the enrollment period is now through february 21st so about a couple of
12:49more weeks you can go online at presidential 1776 award .org to register and then
13:00shortly thereafter uh they'll be taking the test uh and it will be a 90
13:04minute test to see how many uh 4 000 questions they can answer correctly and
13:11these are these are just historical fact questions you know this is if anybody has
13:15any concerns that they're you know partisan politics that they are not at all this
13:20this is just based on facts and history awesome secretary of education mcmahon appreciate you
13:25making the time for us today thank you so much lots of fun thanks for
13:28your desire to participate we're going to make this happen clay i'm in i'm looking
13:33forward to it all right my man's he's going to swim from alcatraz island he's
13:38going to take the impossible history tests you know we got to get clay jumping
13:42out of planes for our youtube channel soon i haven't taken a history test i
13:46don't think buck since the ap us history test back in 1997 so uh we'll
13:52see whether the old brain can retain any of uh of the of the knowledge
13:56from the test back in the day hi i'm lita and my business the donut
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14:28team 47 with clay and buck welcome back in here to clay and buck and
14:34uh we had uh quite a nice chat there with secretary of education linda mcmahon
14:38and i do think that i think education is i just had a long talk
14:44actually clay with a couple of friends of mine fellow uh fellow dads their kids
14:48a little older than mine but younger than yours so in that like sort of
14:51five to ten range so and we're talking about schools and how between virtual learning
14:59ai um the collapse of prestige university as a ticket to sort of riches and
15:08and glory or you know all these different factors um i think the good news
15:14is that there's more of a willingness for people to innovate on education and do
15:18what's best for kids i i have a lot of criticism of the education system
15:22just as an observer i think that it's largely a um i think that it's
15:28largely a like a glorified babysitting service for a lot of kids it's effectively daycare
15:33for kids who are too old to be in daycare um and and the elimination
15:37of standards and all these things that go on the notion that children in the
15:42first second third grade should be in school like i was from 8 a .m
15:46until 4 p .m that's just so that parents have daycare that's not good you're
15:50not learning for eight hours a day as a kid at that age uh so
15:55anyway i have a lot of i have some kind of radical ideas on this
15:58and i talk to people friends of mine who are conservatives who specialize in education
16:03reform and i think that there's a now is a time for people to really
16:07focus on what do you need to know what are the best ways to learn
16:10what you need to know and the just one size fits all mass public education
16:17approach that a lot of democrats like uh is is that's a Well, they don't
16:22actually like it. They want their kids to go to the fancy public school and
16:24they want everyone else to go to the failing public schools, but it's not a
16:28good plan. So it's a big topic, but I think there's a lot of opportunity.
16:32You can watch lecture series from Yale University Classics professors online for free.
16:39Yes. How different is that from being in the class?
16:41At some point, what do you not have access to?
16:45I mean, there's a huge topic of discussion here.
16:51It's one thing I am the Mississippi miracle that we referenced.
16:55In an ideal world, the educational system would be dynamic.
16:59We would see lots of different states trying a wide variety of things to try
17:04to figure out how to educate kids to the best of their ability.
17:08Unfortunately, largely the teachers union just argues that they need to be paid more and
17:13work less. And that does not inure to the benefit of your average kid.
17:20And the difference between, everybody knows this, a really good school, public or private.
17:25I was a public school kid, K -12.
17:27My kids went public school K -6, and now they're in a private school.
17:31But the difference between an okay school and a great school is seismic.
17:36I mean, you and Nate Bergazzi have got to be like the pride of the
17:39Nashville public school system, buddy.
17:41You know, two hometown kids who made it good.
17:43I think Nate went to a private school.
17:46But he didn't go to like a super.
17:47I don't want to throw Nate Bergazzi under the bus.
17:50Uh -oh. But he didn't go like, look, it's Nashville.
17:53A lot of the private schools were not super elite either.
17:56So I don't want to throw him under the bus.
17:58But yeah, I went public school K -12.
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18:15You're listening to Team 47 with Clay and Buck.
18:19Okay, let's dive into something that is a little bit fun, but also yet another
18:24thing we were right about.
18:26So the data has come out, Buck, on the Super Bowl.
18:30And I said, bad bunny, bad choice for the Super Bowl.
18:35And people are still attacking me over this.
18:37I said, hey, you know what?
18:39The Super Bowl halftime show should not be in Spanish, should be in English.
18:43And I said, I just did Piers Morgan's show right before this show started, so
18:48it's going to be up in a little bit.
18:50But I told Piers Morgan, because Piers was like, well, what would you say if
18:54Pavarotti were the halftime performer?
18:56I said, that would be a poor choice, Piers.
19:01Even if it is the greatest opera singer of all time, I don't think it
19:06would be a smart decision for the NFL to have an opera singer.
19:10No, Pavarotti doing the national anthem.
19:13That would be cool. Like, you know, there's...
19:15He's doing it in English, if it's a national anthem.
19:19I don't think it would be smart to do the national anthem in Italian.
19:23So, although it would be maybe interesting to hear, the data has come out, Buck.
19:29Bad Bunny lost 10 million viewers.
19:33The most people that have ever turned off or left the Super Bowl for a
19:40halftime show in the history of the Super Bowl.
19:44Okay? And so, I think this is a clear sign.
19:50Turning Point USA obviously got whatever it was, 6 million live streamers on their YouTube
19:55channel. Um, and other people just decided to bail.
19:59I've said this before. It always has fascinated me.
20:03Almost always, the Super Bowl viewership peaks at halftime.
20:08So, for those of you out there that say, well, I don't know why you
20:11care. I don't... Usually, the biggest possible audience that is watching the Super Bowl watches
20:17at halftime. There are lots of people, as many of you know, because this is
20:21what frustrates me about the Super Bowl as a big sports fan, tons of people
20:26come rolling into Super Bowl parties that have never watched an NFL game all year,
20:31and they talk loudly, and they distract me from being able to actually watch the
20:36game, because I watch games all year.
20:38People like Buck, they come in, and they're just chirping in the background.
20:41I knew, I knew this was going to turn into a little clay jiu -jitsu
20:45move to put me in the Kimura, because I don't actually watch football.
20:50Chirping in the background about all the other things going on in their life, and
20:54I'm like, I'm trying to hear what they're saying.
20:56I'm trying to watch the game.
20:58So, but it is the case that there were the most people to ever turn
21:03off the Super Bowl in the history of the Super Bowl.
21:05Can I ask you a real question?
21:07Like, because I actually, when I've gone with you to college football games, I try
21:10not to ask a million questions, and you're actually very, very kind to explain the
21:15basics, so I have some idea what the heck is going on.
21:18Do you ever have to just be like, hey, guys, I need radio silence.
21:21Like, I can't answer, I can't answer all of your questions while I'm watching.
21:25If you're in sort of a group set, like, how do you handle that?
21:28Because I would assume everyone's like, Clay, what do you think about that wide receiver
21:31choice? Clay, what do you think about the assisting coach who was doing the blah
21:35-biddy -blah? You are going to appreciate this, and I might be the only person
21:39on the planet who does this.
21:41I want to hear what the coaches say in the halftime interview, and I also
21:45want to hear in a post -game interview what the coaches say.
21:48and players say so the game ends and there's bedlam all around and regularly my
21:54poor kids regularly I'm like hey pipe down over there I'm trying to hear what
22:00he's saying in the post -game interview or the halftime interview because occasionally you get
22:05information you know players injured and the coach is jogging off and you can try
22:10to deduce from the interview I don't know what percentage of people out there are
22:15like me and want to actually hear the interview now the other thing buck that
22:20I will say is and I don't know how many people are like me in
22:24this way when my team is playing poorly and it's a team that I actually
22:28care about I mute the broadcast my wife has been making fun of me for
22:33this for years I don't want to hear announcers basically cheering on the other team
22:39and talking about how amazing they look I can watch a game without announcers and
22:44tell every single thing I need to know by and large about the game with
22:47the exception of sometimes like I said an interview with somebody on the field so
22:52I will often sit in complete silence watching games uh during uh during while I'm
22:59sitting in front of my television my wife will walk in she'll be like what
23:03you're just sitting in a room it's completely silent watching a game like yeah the
23:08game's not going well I don't need to hear the announcers you know pile on
23:11about how crappy my team's playing so uh I would say in general I want
23:16the information if it's useful to be uh to be to get from the uh
23:20from the interviews but yeah like this this this idea I do think it's a
23:24what people are gonna say well why does this matter what is the lesson that
23:27should be drawn from it I think it's that the NFL should be trying to
23:31reach the broadest possible audience and some people are going to roll their eyes about
23:35this but I do think American cultural experiences that are shared matter uh having something
23:40that everybody is experiencing together as one is something that that is should be aspirational
23:46we have relatively few of those and making selections on a halftime show that alienates
23:52the vast majority of the viewership because they have no idea what's being said or
23:56what's being done is a poor decision by the NFL and I think they should
24:00reconsider going forward and try to get people very basically who speak English to perform
24:06at the halftime show and I just have to say there's also been this I
24:11like that he bad bunny uh what his name is last name is Ocasio right
24:17I have no idea what his actual name is yeah I mean I'm pretty sure
24:20his name is uh to AOC are they brother and sister pretty well I was
24:23wondering if there's some or some relation there but I thought it was interesting that
24:26there was this well Spanish is now the language of anti -colonialism that is truly
24:30hilarious oh that is a funny that is a hilarious take that you're seeing online
24:35now from some people like well of course like this is Spanish is the language
24:39like against against oppression of uh and the oppression of native peoples it's like so
24:43I had to do I had to take it to Twitter on this one or
24:46to actually be like guys nobody showed up with more brute and by the way
24:51Spain I love my time in Spain I think Spain is a beautiful country an
24:54amazing place I think it probably saved western civilization battle of Lepanto a whole bunch
25:00you know the tours with Charles Martel there's a whole lot I'm very pro Spain
25:04just to be clear I think what Spain did for the world is a great
25:07Catholic country for hundreds of years and it did amazing things that all said the
25:11Spanish showed up in the new world and they were like we're gonna take all
25:14your stuff we're gonna kill a lot of you and anybody who doesn't do what
25:18we say we're definitely killing you and burning down your whole village it wasn't like
25:23the Puritans arriving in Massachusetts trading corn with the natives at Thanksgiving or whatever it
25:28was I hadn't seen this that people are saying that Spanish is the anti -colonial
25:33language oh it's very oh yeah Spanish is now the language of the oppressed or
25:37something I'm like well you gotta learn a little bit about how we got here
25:41everybody uh so yes it turns out if you learn your history I mean the
25:44the Spanish there's a reason they're called the conquistadors they weren't showing up to like
25:49just settle they realized that this and this is how they funded the Spanish Empire
25:54by just taking all of the gold and there was tremendous gold particularly with the
25:58Incas but also with the Aztecs they just took all their stuff they had treasure
26:02galleons going back to Spain to pay for the Spanish Empire and its wars in
26:05Europe and they were absolutely brutal like this is it's just so funny that people
26:10are thinking this and then people are like yeah but what about the British and
26:13their role in the transatlantic slave trade I'm like oh no that's true the British
26:17for a couple hundred years were the second worst when it came to the transatlantic
26:22slave trade anyone anyone at home want to know who they act by far by
26:25far the uh the biggest perpetrator of the the transatlantic slave trade the Portuguese and
26:33where did they take all of the slaves mostly Brazil the Caribbean and parts of
26:37South America but mostly Brazil by far number one so I just think it's interesting
26:43Spain Portugal now we think of them as like you know like the the motherland
26:48for Latin America and everything else but man they were the they were the colonial
26:53powers par excellence and they were rough they were playing for keeps back in the
26:57day it's also funny because anyone that actually talks about reparations the idea is that
27:05the United States should be the sole payer of reparations when to your point Buck
27:10Europe is actually responsible overwhelmingly for all of slavery Africa and of course people only
27:18focus on slaves from Africa right despite the fact that for thousands of the Barbary
27:23pirate slave trade in white Christians which went on millions of people and went on
27:27for hundreds of years went as far the North African slavers went as far as
27:32Iceland and Ireland picking off white people to sell into slavery and this isn't this
27:39isn't taught in schools and people you tell them this they'll be like that's not
27:42true google it actually better crock it you'll see all true it's actually I think
27:49symptomatic of one of the great major issues that we have in this country which
27:54is historical illiteracy and the inability to understand our country but basically the whole landscape
28:03of the world historically everything I mean this is really I mean this is intentional
28:08the entire purpose of much of left -wing cultural argument is to they made it
28:15explicit with the 1619 project root all of American history and indeed all of western
28:20civilization to slavery which began in 1619 which is why they tried to with Nicole
28:26Hannah -Jones New York Times try to argue hey the real focus of America is
28:31not uh 1776 when we got independence it's actually 1619 because America is founded in
28:38the original sin of slavery and therefore nothing that occurred in America is legitimate we
28:44can burn down the declaration of independence uh the constitution all of the uh great
28:49heroes of American life they are illegitimate because the true founding of America happened in
28:541619 very very intentional also also got also got a hot take for you on
28:59this one I love we get into the history stuff here right a little hot
29:02take for everybody first of all as you know I talked about Dahomey and West
29:06Africa and what actually happened there with uh the slave trade where there were slave
29:11states and Dahomey was actually one of the most prominent in all of West Africa
29:15effectively black Africans enslaving black Africans and then selling them to the uh white slavers
29:21that was a huge thing that doesn't get talked about or is not really a
29:25part of the history but something else I think is so interesting Clay okay so
29:28you look at by the way Portia does any did anyone know ask yourself this
29:31did you know that Portugal was responsible for taking five million enslaved Africans across the
29:35Atlantic to Brazil and that that was by far very few people know this you
29:39know do you think Portugal's walking around like hey we should be like apologizing and
29:43doing a lot of reparations no they're all just watching soccer and that's why the
29:47reparations should all be paid overwhelmingly by the European uh colonizing countries but the other
29:53part of this is something else left out is the massive um penance if you
30:00will that the British played or or engaged in by effectively saying not only are
30:06we not doing slavery anymore we're going to use our resources from our the British
30:10people and shut down all slavery off of the coast of Africa like if we
30:14if you're a slave ship we're coming for you so the British played a massive
30:18role in ending the slave trade starting in the early 1800s so even before here
30:23in America and then in America we fought a huge massive civil war with how
30:30many casualties Clay in total 600 ,000 people died in a time when the population
30:35of the United States was I think only like 15 million or some 20 million
30:39like a huge percentage of people died the British became a global anti -slavery force
30:44America said we can't allow this anymore here and then we had a very you
30:48know very bloody civil war to end that to end that practice what are the
30:53Portuguese and the Spanish do you know I mean I'm just saying like where's their
30:58where's their huge uh cost and blood and treasure uh to to make up for
31:02this stuff anyway you know I mean look anybody who studies this it is again
31:08we are historically illiterate as a country when you actually study the history of the
31:12United States and frankly the history of the world um you have a little bit
31:16more depth to be able to discuss many different issues here's something else for my
31:19uh for some of my Latin American friends down here uh including a lot of
31:23Brazilians you know when you know when Brazil abolished slavery Clay formally it was like
31:271940 or something right well 1888 but late that's late in the process I mean
31:35go pull it pull it up I mean well I'll ask Grok some countries did
31:39not that you know of did not abolish slavery until like World War II era
31:43there well they would this is the uh there's a note there's a note here
31:47that while they formally abolished it legally Clay thousands of people continued to work in
31:53effectively slave conditions for decades after the formal abolition in Brazil but point here being
31:59everybody you all know oh 1619 project hmm Portugal how many people knew that just
32:05saying uh I just grokked it so we'll find out uh some of these countries
32:11you're gonna hear and you're gonna be like what like this is an unbelievable uh
32:15Nigeria for instance Buck uh did not end slavery until 1936 yeah yeah I mean
32:22there are people alive uh who were slaves in Nigeria um there you go uh
32:27but I'll hit you with a couple of other of those that you probably don't
32:30hear about very much you're listening to team 47 with Clay and Buck welcome back
32:35in here to Clay and Buck and we got a lot to talk about so
32:38we just got deep into that uh history conversation which I hope I hope you
32:42let me hit you with some more countries Buck Because we were saying, you pointed
32:45out Brazil ended slavery in 1888.
32:48Here are some, I mentioned that Nigeria in the 1930s.
32:53Oman, much of the Middle East, 1970.
32:57United Arab Emirates, 1964. Saudi Arabia, 1962.
33:03Mauritania, 1981. So again, and we should point out too, because some of you are
33:10popping off in there and making a point.
33:12There are still people who are enslaved in the world today, right?
33:17Like there are people that are in many places in Africa.
33:20In Sudan, there are countries where there's still active slavery practice.
33:23By the way, African countries in particular, where that is still going on.
33:27And it's usually Arab Muslims or ethnic Arab Muslims who are enslaving black Africans, which
33:31also, you know, New York Times doesn't like to talk about that very much.
33:35Also, Clay, you mentioned Nigeria.
33:37Nigeria's in the opening chapter of this book, Manufacturing Delusion, because I was there chasing
33:42the group. This is a true story, obviously, in the book.
33:46Chasing the group that would become Boko Haram in the earliest days and checking out
33:50the radicalization that was involved, the mosques in parts of Nigeria where nobody goes because
33:57it's super dangerous. And yeah, I think you should get a copy of the book,
34:01my friends. Go to clayandbuck .com if you want.
34:03You can get the special video download.
34:05Clay, we're entering the shamelessness zone, my friend.
34:08I need everyone listening to this show to buy this book.
34:10It's actually really good, and I wrote it.
34:12Clay and I write our books, which especially in the days of AI, I think
34:16this is going to be a very unusual thing for people to write their books.
34:20But I wrote it, wrote every word.
34:22How the Left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination, and Propaganda.
34:25Read every word for the people who want to get the audio book.
34:29I did the audio, which Clay also told me was going to take a long
34:33time and drive me nuts, but it was really fun, actually, when it was done.
34:36Doing it wasn't that fun.
34:37It took forever. But the audio book is me, yours truly, voicing it.
34:42So there we go. Clay, everything you said about this process was true, by the
34:47way. It takes forever, and I need everyone to buy the book, or else I
34:50will be sad because it's a really good book.
34:52It's a lot of work.
34:53Go buy Buck's book. It'll be out on Tuesday.
34:57We'll be right back with all of you.
34:59Thanks for listening to Team 47 with Clay and Buck.
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