Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Mar 26 2026

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0:38All right, we got a bunch of news that came out of President Trump's cabinet
0:43meeting. Let's dive in here and actually keep you updated with all of that.
0:51So let me go in here and find out, make sure we get it in
0:54order. Here is cut 33.
0:58I do understand why people ask questions that are very specific in terms of military
1:04strategy. I also love that Trump every time is like, why in the world would
1:09I tell you any of this?
1:10Yeah, the reporters are like, sir, are you going to launch a stealth attack on
1:14this member of the IRGC tomorrow at his house in the mountains?
1:18Like, probably not going to let you know.
1:21So 33, here is that version of that question that was just asked in the
1:26cabinet meeting. Mr. President, are you going to go in for the uranium?
1:30Like, how do you secure Iran?
1:33Let's assume I was or I wasn't.
1:36Why would I ever answer a question?
1:38Can you accomplish a goal without it?
1:39What kind of a question?
1:40Am I going to go in for the...
1:41Oh, yeah, I'm going in.
1:42We're going in tomorrow at 3 o 'clock.
1:46How could you possibly ask a question like that and expect an answer?
1:50I don't know. But I don't know.
1:53I think you're a friendly person, too.
1:54It's just such a ridiculous question.
1:57It is very funny. And again, I was talking about this with Laura yesterday.
2:01I think Trump very often is so funny that it sometimes works against him in
2:09the context of people take him so literally on the left and they cannot comprehend
2:15when he's joking. But yeah, we're going to go in at 3 o 'clock.
2:19Remember when Reagan got caught off mic saying, we're hitting the Russians making a joke
2:25and it turned into a huge story?
2:27But the specifics of this are every day he gets asked, hey, what are you
2:32trying to do? As we talked about yesterday, I think the genius of Trump in
2:35this respect has been he's caught the Iranians napping twice.
2:39He got them in June last year.
2:40They had no idea the attack was coming.
2:42He took out the Ayatollah on a Saturday when they had sent specific indications that
2:47they weren't going to do anything such that the Iranians are super nervous about negotiating
2:51with him now because he's caught them napping twice.
2:53And that's because he's put out different perspectives and it's hard to analyze what exactly
2:58he's doing. All right. This is a big story, Buck, that we talked about yesterday
3:03and earlier this week. Things are going so well in Venezuela that no one is
3:08even talking about Venezuela very much.
3:11I saw Doug Burgum a couple weeks ago told him we want to get him
3:14on because he has been involved very much in the Venezuela oil situation.
3:19And he, at the cabinet meeting, gave an update, cut 35, on just how much
3:25Venezuela's oil production is growing.
3:29Listen. Back on Venezuela, Chris and I both had a chance to be there.
3:33I literally think they're going to put up a statue to President Trump.
3:36And I'm not being, it's not a political statement.
3:39It's an actual thing. I hope so.
3:40That would be great. No, because it's like they view President Trump like Simon Woller.
3:44He's the liberator of a country.
3:45And this is a country where they, you know, they love American baseball.
3:48You look on the street, they're wearing NBA jerseys.
3:52And Delcy and her team working with us, getting back.
3:56Chris and I both experienced it was the first time in Venezuelan history that they
4:00had the free press allowed to come on to essentially what's their, where the White
4:05House, the Palacio of Miniflores.
4:06And it was like, it was an emotional thing for people that had been for
4:0920 years that never had a chance to be there.
4:12So it's a... Forget that.
4:13When are they going to do the statue?
4:16The hell are you? You're going to do the statue.
4:20You're going to do the statue.
4:20You're going to do the statue.
4:21So that is really, really funny.
4:2450 % increase in three months they've been there.
4:28And maybe Trump's going to get a statue.
4:31And then he, President Trump, we talked about this and it's a good pivot to
4:35allow us to discuss the continued impact of illegal immigrant crime in this country.
4:41Trump paused the cabinet meeting to deliver a message about Sheridan Gorman.
4:46She is the Chicago area college student who was killed in cold blood by a
4:51Venezuelan illegal immigrant in Chicago.
4:55And unfortunately, we've got recent stories that continue of totally innocent people being victimized by
5:01illegal immigrants. But here is Trump in the cabinet meeting addressing Sheridan Gorman, 18 -year
5:07-old, murdered in cold blood.
5:08It would be great if people like the mayor of Chicago and the governor of
5:13Illidale would say, please come in and stop the crime.
5:17A beautiful young lady was killed the other day and the father was a very
5:23good friend of Dan Scavino.
5:24I don't know. And he took it very hard.
5:26Dan took it very hard.
5:28He liked the father, friends.
5:29They grew up together. And it's a young lady whose life would be saved if
5:34we did what we did, as an example, in Washington, D .C., which is now
5:38a safe city. All the time, people come up to me in the building, people
5:42that work here, they say, thank you so much.
5:43I know immediately what they're talking about.
5:45They're able to walk to work.
5:46They walk to work. You all walk to work.
5:48Some of you were mugged.
5:49I know you told me, sir, some of you were mugged.
5:51One person in particular was viciously mugged in the group right here.
5:55It's not happening anymore. You have a safe city.
6:00And so, Buck, I saw this story, and I just tweeted it out, and a
6:04lot of people are discussing it.
6:06And I think it is unfortunate.
6:08But again, this could be happening in any city in America.
6:11We could point to it.
6:13And I want to make sure that I get this right, because it was from
6:19Bill Malugin, said a four -time previously deported, this is from the New York Post
6:25story, a four -time previously deported Honduran illegal immigrant has been charged with murder after
6:33he allegedly shoved an 83 -year -old U .S.
6:37Air Force veteran onto subway tracks in New York City's Upper East Side.
6:42The veteran died from his injuries.
6:44The man who pushed him onto the tracks has a lengthy rap sheet.
6:50I want to make sure I get this man's name.
6:52He's a grandfather. Richard Williams died from his injuries at the Lexington Avenue 63rd Station
7:00just before noon, middle of the day, on March 8th.
7:05His alleged attacker was a Honduran national, and that Honduran national had been deported four
7:12different times. And, Buck, unfortunately, this is – there's cell phone footage of this.
7:21It's an awful situation. 83 years old, you're trying to take the subway at noon
7:26in New York City, and a man who should have never been in this country
7:29takes your life. Not only should he never have been in this country, he came
7:36back in after being deported, Clay.
7:39Four times. Which is a felony.
7:42This is, again, where I get very frustrated.
7:45People say, oh, our immigration system's broken.
7:47That's actually, in many cases, not true.
7:50Democrats break it. They refuse what is actual statute.
7:55They refuse to enforce laws.
7:57And this is a perfect example of it.
7:59You can – AI makes this all so easy now.
8:02For legal stuff, I've got to tell you, AI, you can pull up statutes in
8:05a second. You can pull up any case law.
8:09I mean, the speed of this stuff is incredible.
8:12And you can see what I'm saying.
8:13It is a federal felony to – if you have been deported because you came
8:18in illegally – to come back.
8:19And doesn't that make perfect sense, by the way?
8:21It's one thing, okay, you came, we got you, you're gone.
8:24Now you're going to do this again?
8:26This guy's done this four times, and he somehow is still walking around the streets
8:31in this country? This is where everyone has to understand.
8:35During the Biden years, Clay, it became too obvious for anyone to pretend otherwise, really,
8:43that Democrats wanted an open border.
8:47And, you know, we saw 10 million came in.
8:50They're pretending, oh, it's about asylum.
8:52They're not asylum seekers. They're scammers.
8:54We see – okay. That was one revelation.
8:57Another revelation people are now having under this Trump administration, because a lot of it
9:02is, Clay, we're talking about it more.
9:04The media can't squelch these stories the way they used to, thanks to things like
9:08X, I might add, formerly Twitter, and Elon.
9:11This stuff gets out. All the media sees it.
9:14You know, it's no longer like Georgia man or Michigan man pushes, oh, you mean
9:19a guy who came here from Ecuador who's been deported five times and has a
9:24long rap sheet of being like a sex criminal?
9:27That's, you know, Michigan man or Georgia man or, in this case, New York City
9:32man? We're all so sick of it, but, Clay, what we're seeing now is Democrats
9:37are continuing sanctuary policies, continuing to thwart immigration enforcement of exactly individuals like the guy
9:46who threw this veteran and grandfather on the subway tracks.
9:51They don't want this to stop, just like they didn't want the border to be
9:55secure, and then Trump secured it right away.
9:57Democrats are all in on you have, it's a sanctuary for the criminals.
10:03It's a sanctuary for the predators.
10:06It is not a sanctuary city.
10:07It is not a safe place for Americans.
10:10They don't want to change that.
10:13Fifteen prior charges for this illegal immigrant who killed 83 -year -old Richard Williams.
10:22Fifteen prior charges, and again, noon, noon on the subway tracks.
10:28Buck, you can speak to, for people out there who don't know Manhattan, this is,
10:31in theory, I believe, a pretty safe area.
10:35Upper East Side, like, this is not an area in New York City.
10:38That's where I grew up.
10:39Yeah, that you would anticipate.
10:40It's probably the safest single jurisdiction in all of the five boroughs or close to
10:45it. One of the safest.
10:46So, if you think about this, noon in one of the safest areas of Manhattan.
10:5283 -year -old veteran, grandpa, gets killed by this illegal immigrant that should have never
11:00been here. And again, it comes on the heels of what's happened in Chicago.
11:04I mean, every day you can wake up and find a story like these.
11:09And it is a, you're basically just permitting this to occur.
11:15But just, Clay, I just think this is so important.
11:17And a rational response to an incident like this would be for the Democrat mayor,
11:27communist mayor of New York, and the prosecutor, the DA, district attorney of New York,
11:33Alvin Bragg. I mean, he's maybe the worst in the entire country, by the way,
11:37as a prosecutor. But put that aside.
11:39The rational human response would be, you know what?
11:42But we will work, when there's somebody who is a violent offender, as this guy
11:48was, a repeat offender, as this guy was, previously deported, as this guy was, we
11:54will honor ICE detainers. We will work with federal law enforcement.
11:58We want to keep all of our illegals washing dishes and cleaning up and doing
12:02all that stuff. That's, you know, they want to do that.
12:05But they'll at least agree with us that we shouldn't have serial predators walking around
12:11the streets who are illegals.
12:12Clay, they won't do it.
12:13They won't budge. They won't even make that exception to the policy.
12:18So what else do you have to know?
12:20This is the cost. 80 -year -old veteran grandpas getting thrown on the subway tracks
12:27in broad daylight in the nicest part of New York City and dying and their
12:31family getting that phone call and the community having that shock.
12:35This is a price. Democrats are willing to have other people pay so that they
12:40can have cheap labor and they can feel like they're not racist.
12:45That's it. That's where the country is.
12:48And it is fairly explicit at this point.
12:51Democrats see as their base people who are not citizens of this country.
12:56And you have to ask yourself, why do they see these people as their base?
13:00Because they want to give them citizenship and believe they will be their base.
13:04I mean, that's the game plan.
13:05And so in the meantime, a lot of innocent people are being killed by illegal
13:12immigrants. And for people out there who say, well, I wish there was a zero
13:16murder rate. Unfortunately, when you're killed by an American citizen, you can keep them in
13:21jail, right? Because most of the times the people who commit murder have long rap
13:24sheets. So we're certainly in favor of that.
13:26But the rate of illegal immigrant murder of citizens of the United States should be
13:33zero. That should not occur.
13:35There should not be a single person.
13:37And I can't even imagine what it's like to have an eye.
13:40I mean, I've got an 18 -year -old who's going off to college in August.
13:43I can't even imagine the torment for those parents who raise their kid, send her
13:50off to college in Chicago.
13:51She's walking in a park, and she just gets murdered by an illegal immigrant.
13:56But I think this is so important.
13:58Obviously, I totally agree with you.
13:59I would just add to this.
14:02They won't even agree. You're saying that there should be no illegals here, so there
14:07should be no murders of Americans by illegals.
14:09True factual statement. Lock that in.
14:11We're talking about illegals who are being arrested for other serious stuff.
14:18They are in custody. There are men and women with guns and badges who have
14:22them. They have hurt Americans already.
14:25And Democrats go, oh, no.
14:26We won't help federal law enforcement send you back to your home country, rapist.
14:32We won't help federal law enforcement send you back to where you belong, murderer, gang
14:38member. I mean, just like I say, we're not talking about 80 -year -old outwellers
14:43who have been here for 30 years, who have done nothing illegal in addition.
14:47We're miles from that conversation.
14:49I think that's just what's so frustrating is that everyone needs to catch up with
14:53this. Oh, there's an illegal alien with a history of harming children and breaking laws
15:02and violence and doing bad stuff?
15:04Can't turn him over to ice, Clay.
15:06That would be a victory for Trump.
15:08Can't do it. Every Democrat jurisdiction in the country with a sanctuary policy, that is
15:14their answer. Can't do it.
15:15Keep that child predator on the streets.
15:17Keep that murderer in your community.
15:19Because it makes Chuck Schumer and his constituents feel good about themselves.
15:24It makes Democrats feel like they're better than you.
15:26And they just hope that they don't actually get, you know, they don't suffer.
15:30It's not their daughter who gets murdered while she's at college.
15:32It's not their grandfather who's throwing the railroad tracks.
15:34Clay, I have absolutely no patience for this crap whatsoever.
15:40This is, everyone who listens to the show knows, I get as fired up about
15:44this as anything. And every smug Democrat out there who's like, eh, but we're a
15:48nation of immigrants. They are just swallowing propaganda and spewing lies.
15:52It's nonsense. It's total nonsense.
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16:53Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now.
16:55We're joined by our friend Alex Berenson.
16:59Unreported Truths is his very successful substack, which I would recommend you all go subscribe
17:04to, where he does independent journalism, independent analysis and reporting.
17:09Alex, great to have you back on the program.
17:11Sam, the title of your piece that we wanted to have you on to talk
17:15about from a couple days ago, the most enraging piece you will read this year.
17:21I would caveat, maybe given what we're talking about today, some of these stories, among
17:26the most enraging, definitely top of, but it definitely emphasizes something that is very real,
17:34that people are starting to catch on to in larger and larger numbers, and that
17:37is Democrat policies on crime are insane.
17:43I mean, they're putting people at risk.
17:46Terrible things keep happening that are preventable.
17:49Tell everybody this story out of Seattle, what's going on here, because it ties right
17:53into our conversations about these illegals that have killed people recently.
17:57Yeah, so this gentleman was not an illegal.
18:00I think he's actually a Washington native.
18:03Sure, sure, yeah. And he, in 2024, he attacked an 80 -year -old woman.
18:12He was 48 at the time.
18:14He was trying to carjack her.
18:16He pulled her out of her car.
18:17Actually, there were people around who tried to stop him, one of whom I think
18:21actually tried to get a bat and go after him, but they weren't able to
18:27stop him, and he sort of threw the woman against the car, a nearby car,
18:33and then backed into her and crushed her and killed her and then drove off
18:39in the car, and she was a dog walker.
18:44Even though she was 80, she had a dog walking business.
18:46It was actually going to the dog park with her own dog, and shortly thereafter,
18:51people at a park in Seattle called animal control, or I don't know if they
18:56called animal control or the police, but they called someone and said, there's somebody harming
19:00a dog. It turned out this gentleman was stabbing this dog that he had taken
19:04in this car to death.
19:05He threw the dog away.
19:07This was not exactly the crime of the century from a smart criminal point of
19:12view. He left his fingerprints.
19:14The police found him less than 24 hours later.
19:18He still had the car keys with him.
19:20No one is disputing. Normally, I'm pretty careful when I say alleged, but nobody's really
19:25disputing that he did this.
19:26So what happened then is, so this guy has a long history of crime.
19:30He's an eight -time convicted felon, and in fact was eligible for the three strikes
19:36program that Washington had, which would have left him in jail for the rest of
19:40his life, but ultimately in a crime about 15 years ago pled to something that
19:47did eventually get him out.
19:49So what his defense team is claiming is that he's incompetent, and the situation is
19:57that you have to be able to participate meaningfully in your own defense, which is
20:01reasonable, okay? If you're too insane even to know what's going on, there can't really
20:08be a trial. So the judge ordered that he be given psychiatric medicine to be
20:15restored to competency, and he was restored to competency.
20:18So that should pave the way for the trial to begin, except he was then
20:23discharged or moved, I shouldn't say discharged, but moved back from the forensic hospital where
20:27he was to jail and essentially stopped taking his medicine and so became incompetent again
20:34or claimed to be incompetent again, right?
20:36There's some question as to whether he's malingering, whether he's actually pretending to be incompetent
20:41or not. And, you know, so I wrote about this because there was actually a
20:46second case that got a lot of attention in Seattle, a 2023 murder where a
20:53man walked up to a woman, a pregnant woman whose car was stopped and just
20:58shot her six times, killed her, walked away.
21:01Now, that guy was then just last week allowed to plead not guilty by reason
21:07of insanity. And it seems pretty clear that in that case, the guy actually is
21:12not competent. You know, and we can argue about whether there should be some kind
21:16of verdict of guilty but insane where he would go to a forensic hospital and
21:20then go to jail for the rest of his life.
21:22I think that makes sense.
21:23But this case to me is even worse.
21:26It's even more upsetting and infuriating because this guy who did this, this 48 -year
21:32-old who killed the dog walker in 2024, has a long criminal record.
21:36He actually has another conviction for driving under the influence and killing somebody.
21:42So this idea that he's actually too mentally ill to participate in his trial, he
21:47knew exactly. what he was doing when he carjacked that car he tried he tried
21:51to escape right so so you know you and i have talked in the past
21:56about crimes that are committed under the influence of psychosis that might be drug -induced
22:00psychosis those have a certain look to them this case looks more just like a
22:04carjacking can i just jump in alice manipulating his system this is important this guy
22:10in the seattle case you mentioned that that just shot murdered this pregnant woman just
22:14shot or six times killed the unborn baby that guy is being has been sent
22:19by a judge in seattle to a psychiatric facility instead of facing 50 plus years
22:24in prison which is what he was facing that's correct he could he could be
22:27released in six months they could just let him go he could it's it's super
22:31unlikely that that would happen um but you're right he can be because he was
22:36found not guilty by reason of insanity now again in that and that's what i
22:40think we should have we should introduce into our system a guilty but insane verdict
22:45where if you are found you know essentially not guilty by reason of insanity but
22:50there's no question you committed the crime if at some point you're restored to competency
22:54you then go to jail and you serve the crime but that's not the system
22:58that we have we have a system where if you were you know judged insane
23:02at the time of the crime you don't bear responsibility and that's where we are
23:07so that that's a bad case again to me this this other case is worse
23:11because i do think that there's a good chance that this guy's malingering um okay
23:16so let's let's dive in here um because we've got positive overall crime trend lines
23:22we've got a lot of people being arrested uh and put in uh put in
23:26jail let's let's pretend alex that we said hey we want to have an actual
23:31war on murder right um and it seems to some extent that that's what's happened
23:36in washington dc it's gotten way safer for everybody else don't we basically know everybody
23:42who's going to commit a murder in the context of uh you know it's it's
23:47not very very often that somebody goes from completely law -abiding to murder right that
23:53that does occur very very rarely but almost always if you ask cops they would
23:58say yeah we know the 300 people in our city who are the most likely
24:01to commit murders can't we just lock those guys up and actually keep them in
24:05prison when they're arrested as they always are for other offenses so so i mean
24:11can we lock them up for nothing no no i'm saying that these people are
24:15all always arrested almost 100 people who commit murder have long rap sheets before they
24:22are convicted of a murder so so there i mean there is this is like
24:26a really interesting discussion and unfortunately i've got to run to a tsa checkpoint in
24:30the near future so i i can't have it with you for a long time
24:33but so yes crime certainly murders are going down in the u .s right there's
24:38been a long trend on this yet people's perceptions of public safety and certainly in
24:43like in cities like seattle and new york are not improving and why that is
24:48i think is so a lot of crime most crime is committed by the people
24:52you're talking about right and oftentimes in the 80s in particular it was drug dealing
24:57related crime right so what's happened well actually there's nobody working the corners anymore a
25:03lot of when drugs are bought often they're bought off snapchat they're bought off you
25:08know your phone and so like there's not actually territorial wars anymore so that's really
25:13helped the cops right plus they have spot shot or they have lots of good
25:17investigative techniques that they didn't used to have so why are people more scared because
25:21the kind of crime that i just mentioned to you that we've been talking about
25:25right walking up to somebody in the street who's a true innocent who doesn't have
25:30any you know isn't out there to buy drugs right the those are the crimes
25:35that scare people and you know they scare women people who who you know who
25:39don't expect to be uh a victim of violent crime and and who quote unquote
25:44shouldn't be a victim a violent crime and to me that's where we've got to
25:49focus our energy and you know the number one way to do that is to
25:52get sort of drug addicted homeless people who are who are having psychosis off the
25:57streets and i favor you know the trump administration has moved in this direction and
26:01i think they should continue to do this civil commitment policies that will get these
26:04folks off the streets alex parents in unreported truths alex good luck at the airport
26:10buddy thanks for calling in before you run thanks guys yeah go to it i
26:15hope you're i hope you're six hours early uh anyway uh or whatever crazy things
26:19are saying for new york city these days clay can we can i just want
26:22to address this follow -up on what alex is saying um this is so important
26:26when we look at crime people ask me about what crime was like in new
26:30york city when i was growing up there because this is the huge turnaround case
26:33story that everyone always cites for a city 2200 murders in 1990 1991 okay 2200
26:40murders huge amount of murders now there was a lot of decay and disorder and
26:43graffiti and bad things going on but a huge majority of those murders were still
26:48happening in high crime areas right there more stuff would bleed over the city was
26:53less safe no question bad guys shooting each other when you look at chicago why
26:58is it that rich democrats who live in what isn't like lincoln park a really
27:03nice area i don't know chicago well is that a fancy area i think so
27:06the north side of chicago is very nice wherever the wherever the fancy rich people
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27:15are happening in the south and the west side for the most part but what
27:18you see because of democrats refusal to deal with these essentially drug addicted and or
27:24severely psychiatric unstable repeat criminals is people being stabbed in broad daylight with their dog
27:31in a park in a nice area someone on on a 63rd street subway in
27:36new york city a man being thrown on the subway tracks by a career criminal
27:40a felon in that case an illegal alien too those hit people differently this isn't
27:45about drug dealers shooting drug dealers in uh you know inner city that doesn't even
27:50that those those murders don't make news right still to this day to your point
27:55i think that's important i think what alex is saying too and what would be
27:58interesting is while we may be at a low in murders overall are people who
28:04are 100 innocent being killed at high rates that that's a really fascinating question to
28:10go into right because if you're engaging in criminal behavior i still hope you don't
28:14get killed but if criminals are shooting at each other to buck's point when there
28:19are 2200 murders going on and most of the people getting killed are those individuals
28:23it is different and it does hit people differently than an 83 year old veteran
28:28like what just happened in manhattan richard williams or this young 18 year old college
28:33girl who just goes to a park and gets murdered while she's there by an
28:38illegal immigrant both of these people killed by illegal immigrants i also come back to
28:42buck and this is where i think you really have to push back aggressively because
28:46they'll say well i don't know why you're focusing on immigrant crime again my answer
28:50is because it should be zero i wish we had a zero crime rate for
28:54american citizens but you when you come here illegally you should have never been allowed
28:59in this country you should have never been permitted to commit a crime and we
29:03should have sheridan gorman and there are a ton of sheridan gorman's lake and rileys
29:08everywhere young innocent college girls should still be alive let's let's let's just kind of
29:13take this to an analogy for a second clay if i was walking through my
29:17neighborhood uh you know i walk ginger around all the time she's the sweetest little
29:21dog and and but if i saw if somebody's 80 pound pit bull um was
29:28aggressive and attacked let's say attacked someone else's dog and i knew this dog was
29:32a danger i knew this dog was dangerous to people no owner no leash no
29:37harness nothing okay but i'll let you say and obviously i know this would be
29:41a difficult thing to do i take this pit bull off of another dog and
29:44it's attacking and i go you know what i don't want people to think poorly
29:47of pit bulls so i'm going to take this dog instead of taking it to
29:50animal control or instead of making sure that it is contained i'm going to release
29:55it in the nearest dog park and just see if it you know rips apart
29:57someone's toy poodle yeah everybody would rightly think that i was being a monster law
30:03enforcement in sanctuary cities is doing that every day with these criminals yeah every single
30:10day and then and then and they go oh my gosh the people just ripped
30:15apart a little poodle yeah it's ripped apart five other little poodles and you keep
30:19letting it loose in the park because you don't want to be mean to pit
30:22bulls sorry to the pit bull owners by the way i know you're gonna get
30:25i'm just you know see pit bull is the pit bull owners are gonna get
30:29ticked off at me yeah pit bull is the most violent dog but no i
30:33mean look if you have a violent but the way that i would put it
30:36is if you have a violent predator that you know is a violent predator and
30:39we'll make it a prezacanario clay we'll get with something that's not gonna upset everybody
30:43those are huge very strong dogs okay a prezacanario but you see the analogy it's
30:48the same analogy yeah no it's it's 100 right and again it comes back to
30:52the question i was asking alex which is and you know this from your time
30:56working with the nypd jointly we know who is going to commit murders at this
31:01point it is very very rare that someone has a completely clean criminal background and
31:08just kills a completely innocent person does it happen every now and then yes so
31:12rarely the murder rate would be basically non -existent if we just kept violent people
31:17off the street every and this is where unfortunately libertarians you have been a scourge
31:21on this issue i'm just going to say it out loud the libertarian uh industrial
31:25complex with their three strikes laws people are going to prison forever for stealing a
31:29pair of socks no we actually need three strikes laws we just need them to
31:33be for serious felonies okay no one's saying you go to prison forever for jaywalking
31:38but you do three class a or you know class one felonies three every state
31:44that thinks that it's serious about some of you by the way are like that's
31:46even too but let's start there three found three serious felonies you go away for
31:5120 three serious felonies you go you know not a lot of people are worried
31:55about what happens to people you know when they come out in their 50s and
31:5760s okay why not have that why not have that law no you know there's
32:03really a criminal justice conversation is one democrats have nothing they have nothing to add
32:08to this other than just letting people continue to suffer and be harmed all right
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33:33Let's go into the guy that I never would have believed would become the most
33:37sane Democrat in the country, but he is John Fetterman, and this is pretty awful.
33:42This was a pro -Iran and Hamas protest that happened in Philadelphia, and I want
33:51you to listen to what was being chanted.
33:55This is cut 32. This happened in Philadelphia.
33:59Until we have done everything in our power to bring the United States to its
34:03knees, let us not lose sight of the enemy.
34:06For every U .S. military base that crumbles, and for every U .S.
34:10soldier who returns home in the casket, we cheer!
34:18Hamas, Hezbollah, also Allah, all of the resistance forces we celebrate, these popular voices on
34:24the ground spend every waking moment in direct confrontation with Zionism, and they rely on
34:29a strong Iranian state to maintain their fighting capacity.
34:33Okay, she said, I think that's a woman, although I've been wrong before, for every
34:39U .S. soldier who comes back in a casket, we cheer.
34:42If you had difficulty hearing what was being said, again, that's in Philadelphia, that was
34:49a rally that they were having in support of Iran, and John Fetterman has been
34:55going off on the Democrat Party, and I wanted to just play a couple of
34:59these different cuts. Here he is saying, Democrat Party is being held hostage by the
35:04far left flank from putting the country first and reopening the H .S., which would
35:10allow the TSA agents to get paid.
35:12Buck, they're about to have their third different missed paycheck, so that's six weeks of
35:16not being paid for the TSA agents.
35:19Cut 22 here. Do the right thing.
35:22Put the country ahead of the party.
35:25Now there's a huge rally, another no -kings kinds of protest, so now it's also
35:32probably motivating some people in my party that they might be afraid to reopen now
35:39because they are demanding these kinds of extremes in what they think is a solution,
35:43that there was ever going to be a solution.
35:46Okay, and then here he is saying, shutting down the government, always wrong.
35:51TSA agents are struggling. Cut 23.
35:55It's always wrong, regardless whatever the party's doing it, shutting down our government.
36:01You can see the kinds of chaos that's created across our net right now.
36:05They're selling their blood. They have to take, you know, pay loans and just this
36:12kinds of chaos. So it's fundamentally wrong, and that's why I refuse to be a
36:18part of it. Buck, what percentage of this audience, and you and I have been
36:23in this camp before, what percentage of this audience do you think could go a
36:28month and a half without being paid at their current job and be perfectly fine
36:33with that? Because I do think it's important to contextualize what's going on here.
36:37We're talking about now six weeks.
36:39That's three different pay periods without getting any dollars at all from the job that
36:44you've been going and working at for six weeks now.
36:48I would bet, what do you think, 65 % of people, of those of you
36:52that are still working, I know some people are retired, some people don't have full
36:55-time jobs, but of those that are working full -time, listening to us today, I
37:00would bet 65%, 60 % of people out there would be in significant financial constraints
37:05if they didn't get paid for six weeks.
37:08Well, that mirrors what the stats are nationwide, and that's exactly what I would assume
37:16is true. Because, you know, we have all 50 states represented in listenership, and so,
37:22yeah, I would think it's about 30 % of those with us right now, of
37:26all of you with us, could weather this storm financially pretty okay, but 70 %
37:33would be running up from credit card debt, asking the landlord maybe for a month
37:38of grace or something. I mean, that's where reality is for 70 % of Americans,
37:4365 % to 70%. And it's just so cruel.
37:47You'll notice Democrats complain so much if Trump wants to do any cuts to any
37:51federal government jobs or do anything like that at all, and yet they'll turn around
37:55and throw TSA under the bus if it benefits them politically without a second thought.
38:00They don't care. It's not just TSA, by the way.
38:02It's also DHS more broadly, as we know.
38:04Coast Guard and others are also affected by this.
38:06So I think it's, dare I say it is...
38:10It is disgraceful. It is deplorable.
38:13Yeah, and by the way, Elon Musk offered to pay the TSA agents and there
38:20was a decision made that it was probably not legal.
38:23And rather than getting into a legal battle over whether that was permitted or not,
38:28the Trump administration decided they would say thank you but decline his willingness to pay.
38:36I come back to this should just not be allowed to happen.
38:40And I'm looking right now, the headline is CNN, the amount of workers that are
38:46calling out. Again, it appears to be constantly New York City, Houston, Atlanta, New Orleans,
38:55and those cities by Atlanta, if I didn't say it, overwhelmingly dealing with the biggest
39:03issues here. But I just think this should be eliminated once and for all.
39:07I don't think you should be able to go to work and not be paid.
39:12And I understand some of you say, well, they're going to get paid eventually.
39:15Okay. But again, I come back to how many of you could go six weeks
39:19at your jobs not being paid at all, knowing that it might be months before
39:25you got paid for the time that you're working.
39:27I just, this is not what they signed up for.
39:30And unfortunately, we're losing hundreds of employees and it's a total mess.
39:36And again, I think the important thing to keep in mind here is Democrats have
39:39decided this is a price worth paying because they want to keep as many people
39:44as they can from getting deported who are in this country illegally.
39:48They're making citizens suffer for their attempt to protect non -citizens.
39:55Yes. And they're also going after TSA.
39:58I mean, when TSA is affected by this, I know it's DHS more broadly, but
40:01TSA has nothing to do with what their objections are.
40:05So this is Democrats pulling the fire alarm, so to speak.
40:09This is lying in the streets so the cars can't get by.
40:12I mean, it's obstruction. What they're doing is just pure obstruction of government administration, and
40:18they're doing it under cover of caring so much about what happened in Minneapolis.
40:22How many Democrat members of Congress could even name both of the people who were
40:25killed in their altercations with ICE in Minneapolis?
40:29At this point, I think they could name one.
40:31I doubt most of them could even name both of them right now.
40:33They don't care is the point.
40:34They don't actually care about any of this.
40:36They just want power, and they're willing to make people miserable, and they're willing to
40:39make Americans suffer and slow down your travel and cause all kinds of disruptions to
40:44commerce, to businesses, because they're not getting their way, and because they don't have anything
40:48else to go on here with Trump.
40:50Yeah. Are they hoping that something terrible happens in the Iran war so that they
40:54can then use that? Sure, but it hasn't happened yet.
40:56So, Clay, this is the best they've got.
40:59This is a – we mentioned this before we were going to have our guest
41:03on, I think, and I wanted to come back to it.
41:05This is from Kash Patel, and IED – we mentioned this.
41:09This news just came out about an hour ago now, 45 minutes or so.
41:14An IED was placed at MacDill Air Force Base, home to CENTCOM and U .S.
41:21Special Operations Command. A brother and a sister have now been indicted.
41:24One is in custody for accessory and evidence tampering, and the primary suspect is charged
41:30with explosives offensives is currently in China.
41:33The FBI, working with our partners, will continue pursuing all these responsible and ensure they're
41:38brought to justice. They say this is tied to the Iran war.
41:43The device was planted there.
41:45So, the reason why I bring it up is, again, we had the situation, Buck,
41:51in Detroit, north of Detroit.
41:53We had the situation at Old Dominion University.
41:56These are terror attacks, by the way, by situations.
41:59Austin and the attempted terror attack in New York City.
42:04And now we have this situation that is coming out that was attempted in Florida.
42:09And, again, I mean, FBI Tampa accused of hiding and attempting to set off an
42:18IED. And we'll see what exactly happens for this.
42:22But on March 16th, FBI Tampa announced that a suspicious package had been discovered, and
42:29they were then able to track down where it was, and they believe it was
42:32connected to what's going on in Iran.
42:36So, yet another would -be attempt to create an element of terror, kill people.
42:42And the reason why I bring that up in conjunction with the TSA is, you
42:46would think of all times that we would want the TSA to be as safe
42:50as possible. It would be now when we know that there have been even more
42:55aggressive attempts to bring terror attacks to this country than in the past.
43:00It just, to me, is indefensible.
43:03All right. Let's hop into some of our calls here, Clikes.
43:06We've got a lot stacked up and also some of our talkbacks.
43:09We have Randy in Cocoa, Florida.
43:14What's going on, Randy? Hi.
43:16How are you doing? We're great.
43:20Great. I and my wife have a huge amount of respect for you, too.
43:25We listen to you every day, if at all possible.
43:28And you have no idea how invaluable what you do for the country is.
43:34Thank you so much. Thank you.
43:36But I wanted to talk about...
43:38About Iran, there is an aspect to the conflict there that I can't believe it's
43:45been overlooked. I spend a lot of time yelling at my radio that we need
43:51to take a page from World War II when we dropped hundreds and hundreds of
43:57small arms and tons of ammunition, explosives, first aid, communications gear to the resistance fighters
44:04of Europe. And I can't for the life of me understand why we're not doing
44:09that for the resistance in Iran.
44:12It would be a military asset that would be cost -effective beyond belief.
44:17We'd be making good on a promise that we made to those people to watch
44:22out for them and take care of them.
44:24Any solution to the Iran conflict that does not involve the complete and total removal
44:30of the theocracy is not a victory.
44:33It is an illusion of victory, and we will regret it.
44:38We will fight this war all over again within 10 years if we leave those
44:41people in power. They have got to go just like the Nazis had to go
44:45at the end of World War II.
44:47Thank you for the call and the historic analogy.
44:50Buck, I haven't heard anybody make this suggestion.
44:52My guess would be that right now the IRGC is still in control of much
44:59of Iran, and that if we were to drop weapons, we think those weapons would
45:03end up in the hands of our adversaries as opposed to the adversaries of the
45:08government. Would that be your sign off on what you would expect is the rationale
45:13so far for why weapons drops are not occurring?
45:16Yeah, we don't have the networks on the ground to get the weapons, too.
45:20We don't know who we'd be trying to get the weapons, too.
45:23We were the British and the French, for example, the allies.
45:27The Brits knew that there were people in France who did not want the Nazis
45:31there and in charge, and they weren't that hard to find under the occupation, Vichy
45:36government and all that. But I don't think we know in Iran.
45:41I mean, we're the invaders, technically, so it's a little bit more, a little bit
45:45of a sketchier situation with regard to that, although I wish we could get some
45:48resistance going on the ground.
45:50Janine in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, wants to chat.
45:52What's up, Janine? I know this is probably a long shot, but I was wondering
45:59if we could compile a list of the TSA workers and set up a GoFundMe
46:04and have Elon Musk or other people help to donate to them, even if it's
46:10done state by state. But I'm sure that there's federal regulations that we have to
46:14work around. I think the problem is, first of all, how would we – you're
46:23saying, why can't we all raise money to pay the TSA salaries?
46:26Didn't Elon offer to do it himself, Clay, and that was kind of brushed aside?
46:31First of all, how much money are we talking about?
46:33Well, there's 50 ,000 employees six weeks.
46:36If the average employee is making $50 ,000 a year, the math on that would
46:42be roughly $1 ,000 a week per – So $6 ,000 times $50 ,000.
46:48Who wants to do that math?
46:49We're looking at $300 million or $3 billion or what is that?
46:54I think it's $300 million.
46:55There we go. $300 million sounds right.
46:58I'm doing math on my calculator right now.
47:00That was pretty good, by the way.
47:01I think McKinsey would definitely hire you.
47:03That was impressive. Yes, $300 million.
47:06So, yeah, with $300 million, I don't know what the biggest GoFundMe ever has been,
47:10but I would guess that's orders of magnitude larger.
47:13And, again, the thing I would say is they're eventually going to get the money.
47:17So it's not as if they are being – it's the fact that they're not
47:21being paid currently. And, again, all of your bills, as you well know, do not
47:26stop. And so the average person out there doesn't have that luxury.
47:31And a lot of these people have kids, and they're taking time off, and all
47:34of those things. And so, again, I think this is a significant story that is
47:43indefensible regardless of your political posture.
47:46And if I were having to stand in line for hours at any of these
47:50airports, I would be furious.
47:52I would be absolutely furious.
47:55We'll come back and close out thoughts with all of you here before – I
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50:02Third hour is being added soon.
50:05And a lot of people out there are weighing in on a variety of different
50:10topics. And we'll have some fun with that during the course of the final hour
50:13of today's show. But we are joined now by Maureen Callahan, journalist, New York Times
50:18bestselling author, host of The Nerve.
50:21And, okay, Buck tells me that you have a strong take on this.
50:26I don't want to throw them under the bus.
50:29But sources tell me that Carrie Sexton and Laura Travis both, independently, have been watching
50:35this John F. Kennedy Jr.
50:36and Carolyn Bessette show. Every time I walk through my bedroom, it has been playing
50:42over the past few days.
50:43It makes me think that women everywhere are watching this show.
50:47The parts that I have seen are trash.
50:49Why are they watching? Am I wrong?
50:53That's for me, I take it.
50:55Yes. Oh, okay. Well, listen, I don't know that it's – I would love to
51:01know the demographics of who is watching.
51:03The breakdown between men and women.
51:04The ages. It is hitting a 90s nostalgia marrow like nothing else.
51:10It is – and by the way, Maureen, it is white women between the ages
51:14of 20 and 50 that are 95 percent, I'm convinced, of the viewership of this
51:19show. This is my take on who's watching.
51:22Interesting. Interesting. Well, listen, I'm something of a Kennedy historian.
51:25I wrote the book Ask Not about the real story of the way that the
51:31Kennedy men have treated their women.
51:34You know, it's upsetting to me, actually, because I was talking to a friend of
51:38mine over the weekend. Very smart, very sophisticated, lifelong New Yorker, grew up with JFK
51:44Jr. in our faces, said, oh, you mean it's not true?
51:48Like, the way in which their story is being depicted in this Ryan Murphy FX
51:54Hulu melodrama isn't true? And I'm like, none of it's true.
51:58They were both pretty awful, shallow, vain, selfish people.
52:03He was a moron. He was a true idiot.
52:07And he – I believe – I theorize it with a lot of legitimacy in
52:11the book, and I've done so on the nerve because we're recapping it every week.
52:15I think that was a murder -suicide.
52:17I really do. Oh, wow.
52:19Okay, well, hold on, Maureen.
52:20First of all, before we get – that's a big thing.
52:23We're going to address that in a second.
52:24I want to hear your details on that.
52:25Oh, I knew you would love that theory.
52:26I knew it. Well, you think I love that theory.
52:29All the stuff you said before that, inject it right into my veins, Maureen, every
52:34time I walk in and my wife is watching the show.
52:36And by the way, my wife, who is totally, like, as right -wing as I
52:40am, she knows all this stuff, but she's still watching the show.
52:43So she's very, very aware of the truth of the Kennedys.
52:46But she laughs at me because I can't walk in without going, oh, the Kennedys
52:50are trash. They're the worst people ever.
52:52Camelot's all a myth, a lie.
52:54It is amazing, the brand creation.
52:56I mean, can you speak to this a little bit, whether it's Camelot or it's,
53:00you know, JFK Jr., all this stuff, Teddy Kennedy?
53:04These people have a long history, the whole dynasty of Kennedys, of being abject, trust
53:10fund scumbags who do really bad things, particularly to women.
53:14But the media keeps propping them up, keeps pretending that they're the good guys.
53:19Okay, to your point right there, Buck, I'm going to tell you my favorite scene
53:24thus far of the entire series.
53:25I don't know if you happen to, quote -unquote, walk by while your wife is
53:30watching it. Okay. This has happened to me seven times I've walked by and my
53:35wife has been watching this show.
53:36It's like a drive -by.
53:38It's such an accident. I know, you guys.
53:40You know the scene where Donald Logue, as Ted Kennedy, is ripping JFK Jr.
53:45a new one for fighting with Carolyn publicly in the park?
53:48And they were, like, physical.
53:49They were, like, going at it.
53:50And Ted Kennedy flings a New York Post on the table across to JFK Jr.
53:55and goes, this family means something to people.
53:59Right? And that scene is done straight face.
54:02And it's like, this is a guy who left a campaign aide.
54:05I didn't know. 28 years old.
54:06I didn't know that this scene existed.
54:08But, yes, continue. It's legit in three feet of water.
54:12This is a guy who would sexually assault waitresses in D .C.
54:16restaurants as recently as the 90s.
54:18He did it in front of the late Michael Kelly, who was doing a profile
54:23for him in GQ magazine.
54:25And this assault ran in GQ magazine.
54:28And this series is treating this family like it's our version.
54:34of the crown and you know people there's there are people who want this sort
54:38of they want to be narcotized they want to get high on this garbage and
54:43then there are the rest of us who are like wait a minute my problem
54:47just as a storyteller is that the real story is so much darker and more
54:53effed up and compelling and these people are such messes ryan murphy easily could have
54:58gotten three seasons out of this easily but they went with the they went with
55:02the fairy tale version and it's ending this week okay so now we're talking to
55:06maureen callahan uh the nerve uh is is your is your podcast right so you're
55:11doing uh phenomenal stuff and i guess my wife is a fan so i actually
55:16come across my wife just walk by when she's listening like you don't listen i
55:21just want you to know by the way i'm gonna admit this you've poured me
55:24when i walk by do i end up watching the rest of the jfk junior
55:27episode yes i do but it's an accident when it starts but okay i'm gonna
55:31be honest i have not sat down and watched any of it but she's obsessed
55:34with it and i told her this was a trash show but what i was
55:38gonna say was that i come across my wife listening to your podcast sometimes and
55:42i hear you speaking truth about kennedys and i'm just oh my gosh it's like
55:46the uh the john ham meme where he's dancing in the club that everyone sees
55:50online now i'm just like oh tell more truth about the kennedys they're the worst
55:53people ever i don't even like caroline was like ambassador these people are all just
55:58so vain and so worthless and the democrat media props them up so much your
56:03though your statement i have to bring myself back into this you think that the
56:07plane crash with jfk junior uh um you know his his girlfriend and her sister
56:13just walk us through the evidence on this because you made quite a claim oh
56:18yes of course so i studied uh the ntsb report uh the formal investigation and
56:24and findings into that crash like a talmudic scholar okay so here's something that the
56:30mainstream media has never reported and still will not even though i put it in
56:34ask not john f kennedy jr before crashing that night with his wife and sister
56:39-in -law on the plane almost smashed into a packed american airlines commercial jetliner making
56:44its descent to jfk they won't report that he didn't turn his comms on he
56:52didn't file a flight plan he was seen on the tarmac carrying a half drunk
56:59bottle of white wine was on pain pills for a broken bone he had just
57:04gotten his cast off multiple pilots on that tarmac told him don't go up i'm
57:09not doing it and i'm way more experienced than you are he his flight instructor
57:14offered to go with him he said no and he wasn't instrument rated it was
57:19so hazy that night now why would he do that everything in his life was
57:24falling apart his magazine had become a laughing stock in the media it was failing
57:31and nobody wanted to buy it his marriage was falling apart his wife was going
57:35to leave him his cousin and best friend anthony was dying of cancer his sister
57:41his closest confidant was no longer speaking to him his business partner had cut him
57:47out of his life jfk jr thought it was a joke at first because nobody
57:51ever left john f kennedy jr's life he was john f kennedy jr this guy
57:56had enough after jfk physically assaulted him in that magazine's offices he did not have
58:02the internal resources to deal with one of those public humiliations let alone a panoply
58:08of them and so that's what i believe wow so that's bleak yeah that is
58:14that is very very bleak why do you think and and the answer may well
58:19be the crown buck made fun of me initially it's a really well done show
58:22uh and i can understand why there is a strong appeal can i just i
58:28just as background for you maureen i just think the whole fascination with the british
58:32royal family particularly for americans is absurd i think that they're also nepotistic clowns that
58:36don't do anything of any value but but the crown was a really good show
58:40that's so so there's that yes i agree it's a really good there is mythologizing
58:47in the crown as well you know with diana i think it would have been
58:51far more intriguing if they had really leaned into her personality disorder you know she
58:56stalked one of her married lovers like she just prank called the house like like
59:02the princess of the doctor right the doctor guy or no he was a different
59:06dealer oh she did also stalk the the heart doctor yeah um but the art
59:11dealer who was married um so i just i i think had they you know
59:16in carolyn beset it's the same thing with love story the the um the business
59:20partner who who eventually walked out of john's life she would prank call him multiple
59:25times a day and into the middle of the night and he would pick up
59:28the phone and this is what he would hear on the other end you should
59:31get the f out of john's life he hates you everybody hates you everybody hates
59:35you at the office you're bringing everybody down why don't you leave you're a loser
59:39i mean this is you know sixth grade girl stuff why do you think this
59:44show is so popular because it is like i've i made fun of it my
59:48wife watched it carrie watched it it has really resonated with i would my guess
59:53is like i said i think it's a lot of times it's women 20 to
59:5650 um why is this show so popular why do you think it has connected
1:00:02Yes. And I'm going to also bet that demographic has a lot of disposable income.
1:00:06I have several theories. Yeah.
1:00:10One, it's a Cinderella story, but it's a real life Cinderella story to a point,
1:00:15right? The heir to Camelot, I put that in quotes, and a girl who came
1:00:20out of nowhere. He could have had anybody.
1:00:22So it's this real sort of wish fulfillment, romantic fantasy.
1:00:28It's mythologizing, which has been going on since the dawn of humanity.
1:00:33And it's also that last moment in New York before the internet.
1:00:38And it was a moment when media mattered, when the stories that the media chose
1:00:44to tell, how they chose to tell them, that was what everybody believed.
1:00:48We're in a much more complicated time.
1:00:50And it's no mistake that they make sure to highlight the Twin Towers in multiple
1:00:57skyscrapes and backdrops in that series.
1:01:01It is the 90s. Tell the book.
1:01:04But I mean, I do think there's a huge amount of 90s nostalgia that has
1:01:08captured much of the people who did not live in the 90s.
1:01:11I see it on my own kids.
1:01:13And I was just plugging Maureen's book because Carrie's read it cover to cover.
1:01:16Ask not about the Kennedys and how they treated women and everybody.
1:01:20No, this is all true.
1:01:20By the way, Maureen, I didn't get a choice in this.
1:01:23Like Clay, you know, Clay and I talked.
1:01:24I was like my wife.
1:01:25She says, you got to have Maureen Callahan on to talk about the show and
1:01:27the Kennedys and everything else.
1:01:29So she's a fan. Thanks a lot.
1:01:31Yeah. When wifey's an actual fan, I'm like, I got to have the person on
1:01:35the show. So. So, yeah, I know she loved the book and your analysis on
1:01:38the stuff. And now, by the way, she's shouting from downstairs that we have to
1:01:41have you on the next time you have something really juicy on a celebrity takedown
1:01:46because you see through all the nonsense.
1:01:47So we're going to have you back.
1:01:49OK. Thank you guys so much.
1:01:51It was really fun. What a pleasure.
1:01:53The nerve is the podcast.
1:01:55Go check it out. Clay, I'll tell you all about.
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