Hour 3 - Historic NASA Launch
3/31/202637 mincomplete
0:00This is an iHeart Podcast.
0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome in. Hour number three, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show.
0:09We are rolling through the program.
0:10We're going to have from NASA, Jared Isaacman on at the bottom of the program
0:15as the launch date for Artemis is set to happen tomorrow, assuming the weather remains
0:22strong and in good stead there.
0:25We are rolling through the program.
0:28I want to mention you stock market up nearly a thousand points as the overall
0:32temperature, I think it's fair to say, in Iran is being dialed back.
0:38We've got a lot of different topics to get into with our guests now.
0:42Chip Roy running for attorney general of Texas.
0:45And we'll get into some major domestic politics related issues.
0:49But Congressman, right off the top, let's just kind of obviously the Iran story is
0:55huge. You talk with the White House quite a lot.
0:59You know the oil and gas industry well as you represent the state of Texas.
1:04If the president were to ask your advice as it pertains to where we are
1:09about a month into the strikes on Iran, you would tell him what as it
1:14pertains to the best possible outcome at this point?
1:17Well, Clay, great to be on.
1:19I mean, first of all, I think what the president's doing is important for resetting
1:23the entire field over there.
1:25And he's putting a lot of pressure on our enemies, to be blunt.
1:29Russia, China, who are feeling the strain of this, and even Europe, who have not
1:34been stepping up there, uphold their end of the bargain, as he noted today.
1:37You guys should go over here and invest in order to open up the straits.
1:41Now, the good news is we've seen a lot of the oil moving through the
1:43straits. I think my advice, which I would offer very carefully, because he's the commander
1:48-in -chief. He's in charge of our national security foreign policy.
1:52But my advice is, look, stay the course on making sure we take out Iran's
1:57offensive capabilities, both conventional and nuclear.
2:00Stay the course on doing that.
2:02That was the long -term threat.
2:03That's why they've had the destabilization over the last five decades.
2:07But not to get too invested in this such that we're in a quagmire where
2:11we've got boots on the ground and a massive expenditure.
2:14Like, the American people don't really want to go down that road.
2:16So let's knock out their capabilities.
2:19Let's keep up the diplomatic pressure.
2:20Let's put pressure on the rest of the world to step up and stop Iran
2:24from continuing to have the threats that they have.
2:27And then we can get back in the business of worrying about the election in
2:30the fall. I'm going to say credit to the president.
2:32You know, politically, people have said, don't do this, right?
2:34And he saw the moment to go try to knock the knees out from under
2:37Iran, both for our benefit, obviously, to support our ally Israel, but importantly, to reset
2:43the global geopolitical landscape. And he's done that.
2:46I just – my caution is do not get, you know, mired in a quagmire
2:50with respect to troops on the ground over there for any extended period of time.
2:55Congressman, appreciate you being with us.
2:56It's Buck. Can we talk about this situation of the DHS and TSA and the
3:00funding and where this all stands?
3:02Now, it looks like – and we think that it might have had some of
3:05its, at least, genesis on this show with an idea from a caller.
3:09But it looks like the ICE backfill of TSA agents has at least alleviated some
3:15of the strain at the airports.
3:17And now where does all of this stand with Congress?
3:21The whole thing is just such a disgrace that people's, you know, vacations, work trips,
3:27all this stuff were ruined so that Chuck Schumer could nag us all about ICE
3:32enforcement. What is the status of the funding and what happens next?
3:38Well, I think as everybody saw last week, I just want to give a big
3:41shout -out to Speaker Mike Johnson for doing, I think, the right thing of having
3:44the House of Representatives send a shot back to the Senate, making very clear we
3:47believe we should fund all of the Department of Homeland Security, TSA, FEMA, Coast Guard,
3:52but importantly ICE and Border Patrol.
3:54And we weren't going to allow the Democrats to isolate ICE and Border Patrol.
3:59We need to stay behind all of them.
4:01I know that we're working through ways to break the back of the Democrats who
4:04are refusing to fund these important security agencies when we're engaged in conflict with Iran
4:10and we had terrorist attacks here on our own soil and where we've got, you
4:16know, rattling by Hezbollah and others.
4:18In the meantime, we have a weakened state without full funding for Coast Guard ICE
4:22Border Patrol. So God bless the president for moving money around for TSA.
4:26God bless the president and Congress for having money in the big, beautiful bill that's
4:30giving us flexibility to deal with the Democrats who do not seem to care that
4:34they're in danger in our country for their political purposes.
4:37I think where we stand is I think the Senate needs to come back in.
4:40I do not think they should be gone for this two -week recess.
4:43They need to come back in, work to get a funding bill done like we
4:47passed out of the House.
4:47If we have to do it through reconciliation, fine.
4:50But what we shouldn't do, I think, is isolate ICE and Border Patrol to be
4:53used as a pinata and a punching bag by the Democrats.
4:57That's what they want. Let's do what we want.
4:59Let's fully fund the security of the United States, which is what the American people
5:02want us to do. What did you think when the Senate left on a two
5:06-week vacation and you guys were still working on the House side?
5:10Yeah, pretty frustrating for them to dump that bill on us late Thursday night, that
5:14two -in -the -morning vote, my voice vote, by the way, without full disclosure to
5:18a lot of my friends who are in the Senate.
5:20And then all of a sudden we're looking at this bill going, look, your message
5:24heading out of... town is to fund DHS minus ICE and Border Patrol.
5:29And we looked at that and said, look, yes, we want to support TSA.
5:32Yes, we want to support the Coast Guard, but we're not going to leave ICE
5:35and Border Patrol stranded. Yes, we can go pull some money out of the big,
5:39beautiful bill to limp through it, but it's not easy to do, and the dollars
5:43will run out. We have a lot of our civilian folks, the support staff, people
5:47that were writing into us, calling us, saying, hey, guys, we're left dangling here.
5:51We don't think that's the right way to do business.
5:53So my feeling was, and the Speaker, God bless him, said, nope, the House is
5:57going to stand strong. We're going to fund it all, send that back over to
5:59the Senate, and that's where we stand.
6:02Now, again, we should go back to Washington.
6:04As you guys know, I'm on the campaign trail for Attorney General.
6:06It is in my personal interest to be in the state of Texas, both so
6:10I can see my family, but so I can be campaigning.
6:12But my job as a congressman, we need to deliver.
6:16So I'll do whatever we need to do.
6:18I'll fly back up there in, you know, two hours if I need to, if
6:21the Speaker calls us back.
6:22But we ought to get together.
6:23Now, I've been having conversations with him, with the Director of the Office of Management
6:27and Budget, the White House, with my friends in the Senate, Jody Arrington, a fellow
6:30Texan who's the Chairman of the Budget Committee, with whom I worked to get the
6:34big, beautiful bill done last year.
6:35We're talking about options. We want to fund the security needs of the United States
6:40fully and not let the Democrats undermine it, and that's our goal, and that's what
6:44we intend to try to do.
6:46Speaking of Chip Roy of Texas, Congressman, something that we've been talking about a lot
6:50on the show, because it's a big issue for the whole country, and I think
6:54that President Trump, with his federal initiatives on helping high -crime cities, has shown what
7:02is possible. You have a crime bill that you are interested in bringing forth and
7:09making the law of the land.
7:11What would it do, and what do you think is the mood of the American
7:15people right now for law enforcement and enforcing laws through our courts in general when
7:22it comes to career criminals, particularly violent criminals?
7:26Well, I think people have seen the dangerous reality of putting people on the streets
7:31who shouldn't be there. And, you know, you see these pendulum shifts.
7:35You know, those of us who are old enough to remember the 80s and early
7:3790s, we then cracked down on crime.
7:39It was bipartisan, and we had a relatively safe country.
7:42And then now we've seen this pendulum back.
7:44They've been letting criminals out on the streets.
7:45You know, all of these groups, Arabella, the Soros -funded groups, the Wren Collective, all
7:50of these entities that have put bad DAs and bad judges in place, they're letting
7:54criminals out. Well, when we fixed it 30 years ago, we had a three -strikes
7:58-and -you're -out provision, right?
7:59We had harsher penalties and sentencing guidelines.
8:03So what I wanted to do, and, you know, I was a former federal prosecutor.
8:07I've watched those get watered down over the last two decades.
8:10But there were some criticisms that I took into account.
8:13For example, people said in the three -strikes -and -you're -out, you shouldn't have one
8:17of your strikes be a random misdemeanor drug possession or something when you were a
8:21juvenile. And I said to myself, okay, fine.
8:25So let's prioritize the point.
8:27So in the bill that I drafted, I tried to put more emphasis behind a
8:31three -strikes -and -you're -out regime again to give it more power by basically putting
8:37a tiered system in place so there's points.
8:40So if you have a, you know, a dangerous felony that you're committing and you
8:44got three strikes of those, you're out.
8:45That's permanent. But if it's a low -level misdemeanor, that would be a quarter point
8:50or a half point. Frankly, I mean, I think it's giving in a way that
8:54should get a significant amount of support.
8:57But the goal here is to reestablish a framework by which there's a legislative requirement
9:03that you put these guys in jail and don't let them out and stand in
9:07the way of judges or DAs who are not prosecuting or giving them sentences that
9:12would keep them off the streets.
9:13So I try to take away the excuses, if that makes sense, by restructuring the
9:18regime to make sure criminals stay in jail.
9:20We're talking to Congressman Chip Roy.
9:23He is running for Attorney General of Texas.
9:25If you were Attorney General, one of your top focuses, I would imagine, in Texas
9:30would be prosecuting violent criminals and ensuring that they end up behind bars.
9:35You're in Washington, D .C.
9:37right now. Last year, 125 -year low, according to data for murders.
9:43In Washington, D .C., so far this year compared to last year, murders are down
9:4965 percent, according to the official Metro D .C.
9:54data that I am looking at right now.
9:57Sex abuse charges down 67 percent.
10:01Is it what we've seen in D .C.
10:03and what we've seen in Memphis strong evidence that as you're laying out with your
10:08potential bills, we don't have to deal with violent crime?
10:11We can actually drive it down to levels that we've never seen before and make
10:16all of us safer? Absolutely.
10:19And it's the first order of government, right?
10:22And, you know, look, people ask me, why are you running for Attorney General?
10:25It's because I believe that the state of Texas is under attack.
10:28And I won't go through the entire list of things, but border, obviously, and the
10:32issue that we've been dealing with out there, thank God we've got President Trump, but
10:35the open border was destructive to Texas.
10:37It was also putting criminals on our streets, putting gang members on our streets, endangering
10:41our people. In addition to the March of Islam across Texas and other issues that
10:45we're dealing with, the issue of crime on our streets is a big one.
10:49And, you know, Texas is known for law and order and justice.
10:52If you look at what we've been dealing with in Houston and Dallas and Austin
10:55and San Antonio with these DAs and these judges that are leaving the criminals on
10:59the streets, you see what happens.
11:01And what the president did, he demonstrated that a strong law and order and presence
11:06of our law enforcement makes an enormous difference.
11:09And that's not rocket science.
11:11It's just common sense, but it takes courage and leadership to stand against, you know,
11:16the woke leftists, the Marxists, who are totally fine with us being in danger because
11:20they say that somehow it is, you know, inappropriate or racist to say that we
11:25need to have law enforcement on the streets.
11:26But the funny thing is, when you talk to Hispanic Texans, black Texans, people of
11:31all walks of life, they all want to have it on the streets.
11:34So that's the first order of business in government.
11:36As attorney general, I'll be working hard to do that, to secure the border, to
11:40put criminals behind bars, to work with local law enforcement to do it, to stop
11:43these judges, to stop these activist DAs, who, by the way, are well -funded.
11:47This is one last important point.
11:48Like, whether you're talking about crime, whether you're talking about these groups, Soros, whether you're
11:53talking about the Islamist movement across the state of Texas and the country, you've got
11:57to go after the NGOs and the nonprofits.
11:59The attorney general has massive power to open up their books, all of them, look
12:03at what they're doing, see where they're violating the law, and then pull their charter
12:07and shut them down. We've got to go after these groups who are organized against
12:10us and undermining our society and endangering us.
12:14Congressman Roy, I appreciate you being with us, sir.
12:16Thanks, guys. Y 'all take care.
12:19Happy Easter. Clay, you may not know this, but sometimes I'm quite fashionable.
12:26Yesterday, he just not. I definitely did not know that, but yes, continue.
12:29Yes. Well, I will have you know that yesterday, when I met up with some
12:33of our team at the event, I said, you guys see these?
12:37You guys see this? They said, oh, you clean up nicely.
12:38See this slick look? See these pants I'm wearing?
12:41These are cozy earth everywhere pants, my friend.
12:46That's right. I was rocking my cozy earth last night.
12:49Cozy earth pants. They feel fantastic, and they look so good that I dressed them
12:54up with a sport coat.
12:55So I was quite fashionable, sir, at the event, thanks to cozy earth.
13:00But not only that, when I get home tonight, I'm going to be sleeping on
13:04cozy earth sheets. Cozy earth has this amazing blanket, the bubble blanket, which my wife
13:10unfortunately hogs. I'm not going to lie.
13:12I sound like a wimp right now, but she hogs the bubble blanket when we're
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13:17But the cozy earth products, they're incredible.
13:20And I understand why she wants that bubble blanket for herself, because it's quite soft
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13:28Everything they have on the clothing side is super comfortable.
13:30It wears well. It holds its form.
13:33And if you're looking for Mother's Day gifts, it's not too early to go online
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13:38Perhaps a cozy earth robe or PJs can be just the thing.
13:43You know, like our friend Jesse Kelly Clay, he's a robe guy.
13:46I don't know if you know that.
13:46He loves to rock a robe.
13:49But for all the ladies out there, for your man, or if you want for
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14:07And if you want to be able to wear pants, like I said, that look
14:09good with whatever, you can wear them with a T -shirt.
14:11You can dress them up with a jacket and tie.
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14:15I honestly have six pairs in my closet right now.
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14:26on Clay and Buck. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
14:30Mic drops that never sounded so good.
14:34Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
14:39Welcome back in to Clay and Buck.
14:42So, Clay, did you clarify this for some yesterday?
14:44Some of the listeners who were, one of the listeners said that he had a
14:47hard time telling the difference between us.
14:49Have you heard this? Have you heard this response?
14:51Yes. Yesterday, we had a brand -new listener who said, I have a difficulty telling
14:56you and Buck apart, and I thought, you know, I'd make it a little bit
15:00easier for him, and this is what it sounded like.
15:02Cut A. I just started listening to your show and is wondering if there's some
15:09way I have difficulty distinguishing who's talking, whether it's Clay or Buck.
15:14So, is there some way you can help me to let me know who's talking
15:19when they're talking so I can understand each individual's point of view?
15:25Thank you very much. Now, you weighed in.
15:27Let me guess. You said, whenever someone's right, it's Clay, and when they're wrong and
15:31you're mad at them, it's Buck.
15:32Let's hear this. Play B.
15:33I'm the one who makes all the good arguments.
15:35Buck is the one who makes all the bad arguments.
15:37There we go. So, if you're listening and you think to yourself, oh, that's a
15:40really good take. That's me.
15:42If you're listening and you're saying, I have no idea what that guy's talking about,
15:46that's Buck. I hope that helps out.
15:47This is a reminder. Not only do I know what Clay's response is going to
15:50be in advance of hearing the response team, we showed up wearing, like, the same
15:55pink Easter outfit on a Fox hit this past weekend.
15:59And I think that for people at home, they might have thought, oh, that's so
16:03nice. These two guys are getting in the Easter spirit together, and they planned it.
16:08No, we did not plan it.
16:10I was going to go on wearing pink for Easter and make jokes about how
16:14Clay is a heathen because he was not going to be early celebrating Easter.
16:19And it's... Turned out he actually beat me to the punch on that one.
16:22So this is what happens when you do this much radio together.
16:24But did we hear from Pam from Anchorage, too, yesterday?
16:26No, we've got a bunch of these.
16:28Keep going. Okay, Pam from Anchorage wants to help out with Mel from Montclair, New
16:32Jersey. Play C. That was funny, Clay.
16:34You're quick on your feet trying to differentiate for the gentleman between you and Buck.
16:39Although your answer was splendid, of course.
16:41Buck, you might want to check it out.
16:43I would submit to you that whenever there's some intermingling of some really spicy or
16:53risque language, that's Clay. The more straight -laced and mild -mannered, that would be the
17:01Buckster. Fair. Fair, fair point.
17:04The moment that the talk about boobs starts to get close enough that some of
17:09you might have a little bit of redness in your cheeks, that's a Clay Travis
17:14monologue. And if someone's saying, hold on, slow down, what's going on?
17:19That tends to be me.
17:20So by content, that is one way that you could tell.
17:24If someone is pushing the limits, oh, that's the Clayster.
17:27If someone is trying to pump the brakes, that's the Buckster.
17:32That is accurate, and it leads me into a potential story that you may have
17:37to mention for all of you by the end of the show that involves boobs
17:42that, I've got to be honest with you, I did not see coming at all.
17:45It's a headline on Daily Mail and the New York Post.
17:49Just a little bit of a tease.
17:50I think we've got to talk about it.
17:52I think that's quite a tease.
17:53That is quite a tease.
17:54But when we come back, we are going to be talking to the head of
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18:56Welcome back in. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
19:00We are rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program tomorrow.
19:03Major launch coming, as long as the weather holds up, from NASA.
19:08And we bring in now the director of NASA, the head of the space agency,
19:12Jared Isaacman. And this is a super exciting...
19:15Buck and I are very excited to talk with you, so thanks for making the
19:18time for us. I know it's a very serious time for you guys, but I
19:22wanted to start with this question.
19:24Before we get into the space launch, there is talk that we are going to
19:28be putting a base on the moon.
19:33Moon base, I guess, would be one way to put that.
19:36What would that look like, and what does that goal, in terms of time, stretch
19:41out to? Because that sounds pretty amazing.
19:44Well, first of all, it's great to be on the show.
19:47Great to talk about the exciting mission that's scheduled to launch tomorrow.
19:50And you're absolutely right, right?
19:53President Trump and his national space policy said, pick up where Apollo 17 left off.
19:58Send astronauts to the moon.
20:00Do it frequently, but don't just go to put the flag there and leave the
20:04footsteps behind. Build an enduring presence.
20:07Build a moon base. Realize the scientific and economic value.
20:11Do the in -situ resource manufacturing, the experimentation, the testing that's going to be necessary.
20:17So someday, you can take the next giant leap to Mars.
20:21So, a base on space?
20:25How long until we can?
20:27I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. On the moon.
20:29But that would be in space, Clay.
20:31I was going to say, a base on space.
20:33How long until we complete this race?
20:35I was trying to have a little rhyme fun here, but you jumped in.
20:37That's fair enough. Mr. Administrator, can you tell us, what would this be able to
20:42do? And are we setting up the basic infrastructure here for a whole new generation
20:49or new generations of space travel, leveraging space for things here on Earth, including low
20:56Earth orbit, things like the data centers that will be able to be put there?
21:02I mean, what does the future of this look like?
21:04I know this amazing launch is coming up, but what's going to be happening after?
21:08Yeah, absolutely. Well, let me tell you about it.
21:10So, let's talk about the astronaut side of things.
21:13So, tomorrow, Artemis 2 is going to launch.
21:15We're going to send four astronauts farther into space than we've ever sent humans before.
21:20They're going to go faster than humans have ever traveled before.
21:23So, 250 ,000 miles away from Earth, going 25 ,000 miles an hour on a
21:2910 -day journey to test out the spaceship before they'll splash down off the West
21:33Coast. That's Artemis 2. That journey begins tomorrow.
21:37Next up, Artemis 3, 2027.
21:39We're going to launch the same rocket.
21:41This time, the astronauts are going to rendezvous and dock with the lunar lander in
21:47Earth orbit. test out the integrated systems.
21:49This is just how we did it during the Apollo era, during Apollo 9, and
21:53then we're going to use that to gain confidence to land those astronauts on the
21:57moon in 2028 on Artemis 4.
22:00Now, in parallel, we're building the base.
22:02Again, we're not just going there to pick up the rocks this time, we're going
22:05to stay. So starting in the beginning of 2027, people are going to be able
22:11to witness on a near monthly cadence robotic landings on the moon.
22:15We're going to have rovers driving around.
22:17We're going to be testing out uncrewed mobility, crude mobility, power generation, navigation.
22:24We're going to do surface improvements.
22:26We are going to learn as much as we can in preparation for when the
22:29astronauts arrive, and I'll tell you, we're going to bring everybody along with us.
22:33We're going to put observation satellites up, communication satellites.
22:36Heck, there's going to be a NASA moon -based website where people are going to
22:40log in and watch the moon base being constructed almost in real time.
22:43This is all incredible. It has been, for people out there, this is kind of
22:49extraordinary. In 1903, I believe I'm right, Orville and Wilbur Wright began to fly.
22:56In 1969, we put men on the moon.
23:00So 66 years from the creation of the first aircraft, the first time of flight,
23:06to on the moon. And then we kind of just stopped.
23:10And obviously, Elon Musk, who I know you know very well, has been important in
23:15propelling the space advancement. How do we avoid stagnating again?
23:22I love these aspirational goals that you're laying out.
23:26But I think if we went back in time to 1969, Americans would actually be
23:30stunned that our space progress has been quite limited since then.
23:36Look, I think this is extremely fair, right?
23:39I mean, for 35 years, every president has called for a return to the moon.
23:43It sounds good. But what about putting it in practice?
23:46President Trump, during his first term, created the Artemis program.
23:50President Trump, on my first day on the job, the day I was sworn in,
23:53gave me a national space policy in an executive order that said, get back to
23:57the moon and do it to stay this time, build the moon base and invest
24:02in the next giant leap capabilities.
24:04We're going to launch a nuclear powered spaceship in 2028 called Freedom, SR1 Freedom.
24:09That's going to be nuclear power and propulsion.
24:10And it's going to deliver a scientific payload to Mars, because that's the kind of
24:14capabilities you're going to need someday for Mars.
24:16So you're absolutely right. We took a break from deep space exploration for a while.
24:21We didn't have a competitor.
24:22We won the first race.
24:23But we have a competitor now.
24:25The new race is on.
24:26It's to get back to the moon.
24:27It's to do it to stay.
24:29It's to learn so you can undertake, you know, big, bold endeavors like going to
24:33Mars someday. That's what the president has put in motion.
24:37And we've already enacted plans.
24:39We're not just doing talk about this.
24:40We had a big event last week where we shared with industry and all our
24:44international partners how we're going to do it.
24:46We dropped RFIs, RFPs, had breakout sessions the next day, because now we're in execution
24:50mode. Can you speak to some of the commercial and national security applications of space
24:58exploration as it's lined up?
25:00I mean, you just laid out for us what the timeline is.
25:02But I think, for example, one of the amazing things that SpaceX has done is
25:06by creating internet essentially beamed down from satellites, there's a whole commercial application now for
25:16this. And SpaceX is obviously putting satellites into space for private entities.
25:20So there's commercialization. So I know there's more commercial options that this will lay the
25:26pathway for. Can you speak to that?
25:28And also why, from a national security perspective, space, NASA, what's going on right now
25:35with this program is so important?
25:37Yeah, absolutely. So I'll tell you what SpaceX did, which is so important, is they
25:42figured out how to reuse the rocket again.
25:44And not months later, but to do it in weeks.
25:46Why does this matter? I mean, think about it.
25:48If you were traveling with your family to Disney World, but you had to throw
25:51away the 737, how much would it cost to get to Disney World, right?
25:54That's not how we want to do it anymore.
25:56SpaceX pioneered rapid reusability of the first stage of the booster.
26:00And what that did is it brought the cost to put mass and orbit down
26:05materially. Now, what does that serve?
26:07That serves a lot of different applications.
26:08You can now have high -speed internet and low -Earth orbit, but it has national
26:13security applications as well. I mean, the satellites that we use in conflict for observation,
26:20you know, for communication, for command and control, those are all put up now far
26:24more affordably than ever before, thanks to reusability.
26:28But it's also great for science and discovery, right?
26:30I mean, you know, exploring the world beyond ours is the greatest adventure in human
26:34history. We can launch more rovers now to Mars, more probes, more telescopes to look
26:38back into the beginning of our universe, thanks to this reusable technology.
26:43And it's not just SpaceX anymore.
26:44Blue Origin has this capability.
26:46Rocket Lab is doing it.
26:47I mean, what they did was a game changer, and they're about to change it
26:51all over again now with Starship, where both the first half of the rocket and
26:55the upper half are going to be reusable.
26:57That's going to be a light switch moment for humanity.
26:59We're talking to Jared Isaacman, head of NASA, in advance of the launch tomorrow.
27:05My 18 -year -old is a big space kid.
27:08Like, he's just fascinated by it all.
27:10I told him we were going to have you on the program today, and he
27:13told me, will you ask?
27:15Kim, how long will it be, in his opinion, until we can put a man
27:20or woman on the surface of Mars?
27:23What does that time frame look like to you?
27:25I understand the focus right now is moon -based, but aspirationally, having so -called moonshots
27:31matters. It really kind of gets the attention of my 18 -year -old, but there's
27:34a lot of kids out there, grandkids out there that are going to be listening
27:38to this segment that would love to know an answer to that, to think aspirationally
27:43about our future in the stars.
27:46Sure. I mean, I think the answer is it's probably somewhere in that 10 -
27:50to 20 -year timeline, but I'll tell you, this is why it's so imperative to
27:54return to the moon and build the moon base.
27:56So where we are targeting to build the base that President Trump called for in
28:00his space policy is the South Pole, and in the permanently shaded regions of the
28:05South Pole of the moon, you have water ice.
28:07So when we land there, when we build the base, we are going to work
28:10with that ice and use it to make propellant, and that's going to be key
28:14because I'll tell you, when you see American astronauts step foot off the Artemis 4
28:19lander and are on the moon, know at that point in time we have the
28:23capability to send astronauts to Mars.
28:25The hard part is how do you bring them home?
28:28And when they're there, they're going to have to make their own propellant to make
28:31that return voyage, and we will master those skills on the South Pole of the
28:35moon, and then we'll be ready to undertake that grand journey.
28:39One last question. Tomorrow this is going to be happening in theory at what time
28:43for people out there that want to monitor this incredible endeavor.
28:47What should they know? What are the details?
28:51So it's 6 .24 p .m.
28:53at Kennedy Space Center. That's when our launch window opens, and that is the earliest
28:57point that Artemis 2 could ignite, and you've got 8 .8 million pounds of thrust
29:02sending those astronauts out into space, 25 ,000 miles an hour farther into space than
29:07any human's ever gone before.
29:09Wow. It's exciting. Well, we know how busy you are.
29:12This has been awesome. We appreciate you making the time, and we look forward to
29:16watching the success tomorrow. Thank you very much.
29:19Thanks for your interest in NASA.
29:20Thank you. That's Jared Isaacman, the head of NASA.
29:24That's really cool. Again, I like your question, Buck, because it kind of goes to
29:30how are these things that we learn going to be applied to other facets of
29:35life, and I think it's really cool to think about a moon base as an
29:38aspirational goal to teach us how to one day put life onto Mars and make
29:45us a multi -planetary species, which is, I think, pretty incredible.
29:49But I want to tell you, in the meantime, maybe you just want to worry
29:53about life here on good old Earth, and maybe you're concerned about some of the
29:57catastrophes that happen or just losing power.
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31:28And we've got a bunch of talkbacks from all of you.
31:31Let's hit it. First up, D, podcast listener, Tom, on the West Palm Airport.
31:35Hit it. Good afternoon, guys.
31:37With the news that Palm Beach Airport in Florida is now going to be named
31:42Trump Airport. Like Linda in Arizona, I'd like to be the first one to call
31:47and recommend that the airport code be changed from PBI to TDS.
31:54I think with Trump's humor, I think he would go for it.
31:58That's very funny. It's a dad joke.
32:01It was a solid dad joke.
32:02Yeah. Yeah. I don't hate it.
32:05Joe from Huntington Beach, California.
32:08E. Hey, this is Joe from Huntington Beach.
32:11Clay, if your golf swing is awful, you're not a 20 handicap.
32:1520 handicap means you basically shoot around a 92.
32:1892 is not bad. That's a little, almost about one over par.
32:23That's bogey golf. That's actually pretty good for just a casual weekend golfer.
32:27Just saying. I am about a 92 or a 95.
32:31I mean, I'm not saying that I'm playing from the tips.
32:34I'm not playing from the pro level tees.
32:37But, you know, playing for a, you know, normal middle range tees, depending on how
32:42many there are. i play roughly bogey golf uh i'm not truly atrocious my swing
32:48is not good is that the women's tees or how many tees are there that's
32:52the red tees are the women's tees i would be a i could probably par
32:56most courses if i got humbly if i got to play from the women tees
33:00uh because they're just so much shorter i can drive a lot of greens uh
33:04even my misses wouldn't be that bad no this would be like there's the tips
33:08right which is like the pro level and that is way back and there's all
33:12added different uh challenges i'm not saying i'm playing from there most golfers shouldn't play
33:17from there unless you're elite but for the middle tier you know i would i
33:20would shoot uh if again if i'm out a little bit around the 92 to
33:2598 i would say would be about what i would shoot so that's you know
33:29basically a 20 plus handicap that's what i put down when i play in the
33:33charity golf events for all the golf people out there so you got that going
33:37for you which is nice uh charity from milwaukee this is f i just want
33:43to give you guys a different perspective on why women aren't having kids and getting
33:47married young the dating market sucks as a single woman it is so hard to
33:54find men i am active in my church i am active socially i have friends
34:01who don't have other single male friends to set me up with the dating market
34:06just is really bad okay well charity there's probably some men out there that might
34:11be interested in charity but question for you has there ever been a moment in
34:16human history where women said the the men available are incredible i don't want to
34:22come after charity specifically here but i guarantee you 250 years ago if uh paul
34:28revere was out for his ride roughly there were a lot of women in boston
34:32in colonial times complaining that there were no good men so i have you ever
34:39heard anytime in your life buck have you ever heard women saying man there's so
34:42many great options out there i just can't believe it i mean i'll just speak
34:45the truth on this and i i can speak with a degree of of expertise
34:48here as somebody who was on and off single as an adult in new york
34:52city or washington dc for 20 years so i i know i know the game
34:58a bit you know i know how this stuff goes i have there are only
35:03sort of two buckets of problem male and female that i have come across in
35:09this respect um and and i would say this the the number one challenge that
35:13i see are people who have um too specific and therefore somewhat unrealistic expectations that's
35:22the most common problem that i see uh and the number two problem would be
35:29people who are not being honest with themselves about are you fit are you stable
35:36do you have a lot to offer and are you are you stable slash pleasant
35:40and do you have a lot to offer and and how do you line up
35:44with these things now i'm not saying this is this is very general stuff i've
35:48never met somebody i've said this before i've never met a woman who was kind
35:53fit and stable who had any problem other than too specific in what she wanted
35:59and i've never met a man who was fit successful and kind who ever had
36:06a problem other than unwilling to commit and make a decision so there are some
36:12pretty clear paradigms that play out here i would also point out that i would
36:17actually argue there may be too many options because on social media as opposed to
36:22not having enough sometimes when you're constantly scrolling on social media or any of the
36:28dating apps it seems to me that you're unwilling to commit to any one and
36:34so you end up just kind of drowning in options by the way we didn't
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36:41that we will get to it tomorrow it involves the former dhs secretary and it's
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