Hour 2 - An "Order 66" Moment for Democrats
4/13/202637 mincomplete
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0:05Play Travis Buck Sexton show.
0:08As is often the case, a bit of a show surrounding President Trump as he
0:13was just having a press conference outside the Oval Office.
0:17Immediately preceding it, in order to focus on his no tax on tips policy, he
0:25had a door dash delivery to the Oval Office.
0:30From a grandma named Sharon.
0:32And the president gave her a $100 bill as a tip, which Sharon was very
0:39happy about. I'm sure Buck, this is actually...
0:42I don't know who has the job, this is very funny, of contacting DoorDash and
0:49doing a search on the best DoorDash delivery for President Trump to get his McDonald's
0:55at the White House, obviously going through security.
0:58I presume that they also would prefer that it be a Trump -supporting DoorDasher in
1:04the D .C. area, who is unlikely to throw a huge crazy fit when they're
1:10knocking on the door of the Oval Office to deliver McDonald's to the president.
1:14But this happens, Buck. And then he steps outside, still standing next to the grandma,
1:21DoorDash McDonald's delivery person, and has a press conference about what should happen next with
1:28Iran. So all of this is happening in real time.
1:33And let's see. We've got a couple of different cuts there.
1:37We mentioned that Trump said either Iran gives up what he called the nuclear dust
1:42or we will take it.
1:44Trump also addressed Buck. He got into going back and forth with the Pope.
1:51He also, from his Truth Social account, shared an image of himself that looked like
1:57Jesus. Trump addressed that and said, hey, I thought that the Jesus picture was depicting
2:06me as a doctor. This is Trump 36.
2:11I'm sorry. Come on. Mr.
2:12President, did you post that picture of yourself depicted as Jesus Christ?
2:17Well, it wasn't a picture.
2:18It was me. I did post it.
2:20And I thought it was me as a doctor.
2:22And it had to do with Red Cross as a Red Cross worker there, which
2:25we support. And only the fake news could come up with that one.
2:30So I had just heard about it.
2:34And I said, how did they come up with that?
2:36But it's supposed to be me as a doctor making people better.
2:40And I do make people better.
2:41I make people a lot better.
2:44All right. I thought it looked like him as Jesus, but he has deleted the
2:49image. So Trump says he thought he was being depicted as a doctor, not as
2:55Jesus. Okay, let's just all be up for it.
2:59Trump knew that he wasn't a doctor.
3:00But this is the most Trump thing ever.
3:02He's like, all right, whatever.
3:03I thought it was a doctor.
3:04He knows, and we know, but he also knows that this now is kind of
3:08an off -ramp. People that felt like it was blasphemy, and I know people would
3:11feel that way. They can, you know, he's created a fig leaf, if you will,
3:19of plausible deniability on his I am Jesus thing.
3:24So we can all move on.
3:25But Trump is doing this with a smile on his face.
3:27He knows what's going on.
3:28He did not apologize to the Pope.
3:30So the Pope versus Trump feud is ongoing.
3:35But he did, we said earlier, either they give it up, meaning the nuclear dust,
3:41as he called it, or we take it, which I thought was the most significant
3:45news. But he was also asked, what happens if we don't have a deal with
3:49Iran by the time the ceasefire is over?
3:53Here is Cut 38, President Trump responding to that.
3:56The deal is not reached by the end of the ceasefire.
3:59Is your correct? From before, still stand.
4:02Yeah, I don't want to comment on that, but it won't be pleasant for them.
4:05Let me put it on that one.
4:07It won't be pleasant. He said he didn't want to comment on it.
4:10He also, Buck, commented on Cuba, which Venezuela, if you wonder how things are going
4:16in Venezuela, it's going so well that nobody's even writing about Venezuela at all.
4:21Cuba remains unclear exactly what's going to happen there.
4:25But Trump addressed that Cut 37.
4:28He was asked about Cuba.
4:30Cuba's another story. Cuba's been a terribly run country for a long time.
4:34It's got a bad system.
4:36It's been very oppressive, as you know.
4:38And we have a lot of great Cuban Americans, all of whom just about voted
4:42for me. And they were treated very badly.
4:44In many cases, family members have been killed.
4:47They've been beaten up and mugged and, like, terrible things happened in Cuba.
4:52And Cuba's a failing nation.
4:54And we're going to do this.
4:56And we may stop by Cuba after we're finished with this.
4:59But Cuba is a nation that has been horribly run for many years by Castro.
5:06Okay, now, we said that we would, Buck, talk about the Swalwell implications.
5:13And so, at the top of this hour, let's dive into this a bit.
5:17Steve Hilton, top of the third hour.
5:20So, Eric Swalwell, congressman, many of you know him.
5:23He's been one of the most very...
5:24anti -Trump forces for the last decade basically his entire political career is based on
5:31being anti -Trump. I would say before this most famous for his escapades with Feng
5:38Feng the alleged Chinese spy.
5:41Correct um and uh and obviously he was able to stay on the House Intelligence
5:48Committee he was kind of a pit bull fair to say for Nancy Pelosi represents
5:53the Bay Area suburbs and things are not going well so look we talk a
5:58lot about the midterms and where things are setting up and it is going to
6:02be right now it appears a challenging environment uh for Republicans as is often the
6:08case when you are in the White House.
6:10Now in California though a lot of the time the two leading candidates have been
6:17Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco uh who is both both of those guys are Republicans
6:22and Eric Swalwell had been the leading Democrat candidate he had been endorsed by the
6:29teachers unions by a lot of the uh other labor unions and he was in
6:34a position where it seemed like he was going to advance to the runoff and
6:39then Buck I want to get your read on this it feels like basically the
6:43Democrat Party just ordered a code red on him um I I don't I don't
6:48buy that they had no idea about his behavior or that there were a lot
6:53of stories in fact he had been asked about them when he was seeking all
6:57these endorsements and his response had always been as anti -Trump as I am don't
7:02you think those stories would have come this is paraphrasing him as anti -Trump as
7:07I am don't you think those stories would have already come out if they were
7:11there well a bunch of these stories have come out so uh among them one
7:16of his former aides accused him of sexual assault and then there are other allegations
7:23as we have talked about that basically he was engaging in extramarital affairs um and
7:28sending pictures of himself uh naked photos of himself a part of himself not he
7:35wasn't taking selfies of him his face at least genital photos I don't know what
7:40can we say on this a penis pics can we say that I said it
7:43um to uh to women that he was not married to uh which is pretty
7:47reckless for uh anyone uh in Congress much less when you are uh married and
7:53one of the leading contenders to be the governor of California so Buck it feels
7:58like to me Democrats basically decided we're going to order the code red on him
8:02I will say this unlike the way that he treated Brett Kavanaugh and unlike the
8:07way that he treated President Trump I think he's entitled to a presumption of innocence
8:12here and you can read these allegations skeptically I just I just want to say
8:17he was a believe all women guy when he was trying to destroy Brett Kavanaugh's
8:22life on absolutely baseless absurd fantastical fantasy level allegations against Kavanaugh no intelligent no intelligent
8:33honest person believed that Kavanaugh was a serial gang rapist all throughout high school and
8:40this was just coming up by the way this it was really I've said this
8:43it was a political 9 -11 moment for me the whole Kavanaugh thing it was
8:47when we realized a lot of us uh that the era of Trump as a
8:52brass knuckle brawler against the other side was so very very necessary yes because they
8:58have no scruples the Democrats have no willingness whatsoever to abide by fair play decency
9:06uh basic ethics they all knew that Kavanaugh by the way Kamala Harris was a
9:12big part of it too don't forget that everybody Kamala Harris was a big part
9:15of it but but but uh Swalwell was a believe all women guy which is
9:19on its face an absurd and antithetical to our justice system yes way of approaching
9:27cases of course this is this is this was insane and it was one of
9:32the ugliest things I've ever seen in American politics it was the ritualized humiliation and
9:38degradation of a manifestly innocent man with Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh not not guilty
9:45innocent it was clear he did none of these things okay the woman couldn't remember
9:50the year said she had two couldn't fly but actually didn't know where the house
9:56was didn't know what year it was Blasey Ford is a liar yes a liar
10:02okay and the others were lunatics lunatics and and I would just say this Buck
10:09I mean even if that had all been true this is the way I always
10:12kind of uh approach it are you telling me that trying to make out with
10:16a girl when you are because I mean it was a high school party it's
10:2140 years ago or whatever the heck it was in the 1980s in uh in
10:26Washington DC it wasn't even a crime like even if everything that she had alleged
10:32was 100 true which is one of the ways like when you're a lawyer you
10:36say for purposes of you know does it withstand summary judgment presume that everything is
10:41true even if it had all been true it wouldn't have been a crime I
10:45don't even think it would have been disqualifying for being a Supreme Court Justice even
10:49if you accept everything but he was a believe -all woman which is ludicrous I'm
10:53giving him what he would not, which is, I read these allegations, Buck, and I
10:59think that I'm kind of skeptical of the crime, of the fact that there was
11:03a crime. Yeah. So there's two different things here.
11:05There's criminal stuff, and there's unbecoming of, and, you know, unfit to be in office
11:11stuff, right? Those are two separate categories.
11:13I mean, they obviously cross over.
11:14If you're doing crimes, you're also unfit, but there are things that don't rise to.
11:18Now, it can be if you're sending, like, because Anthony Weiner, which you can't make
11:26up that that was really his name, given what went on here.
11:29I mean, you know, just putting that aside.
11:30I'm not trying to be childish or, you know, but it really was absurd.
11:35But that guy was sending Weiner photos to an underage girl and knew she was
11:44underage. That is a crime, and he got nailed on that, as he should.
11:50But with this, sending those unsolicited, but also, I think Ann Coulter actually put this
11:56out on who we had on recently and did a great job on the border
11:59stuff, but she said it's almost always unsolicited, right?
12:04Like, if you're a stranger, how many strangers are like, you know what I want
12:08from this congressman right now, a photo of his man parts?
12:12I don't think that's a thing.
12:14I don't think women really ever want these photos.
12:16This is the big, one of many major differences between men and women.
12:21Men would always like to see a naked photo.
12:24So I think in many men's minds, this is, like, something that women desire as
12:31much as men desire. So, having said all of this...
12:37Wait, women never want these photos, and men generally are like, hey...
12:41Men in their head are thinking, oh, because men want to see naked photos of
12:46women, either one of two things.
12:47Women are as interested in naked photos as we are, which is almost never true,
12:51or he's thinking, if I send her a naked photo, she's going to send me
12:55a naked photo back. If I were in his head, that's what I would expect
12:58that he was thinking. Having said all of this, this was not well -kept secret,
13:04Buck. Everybody on Capitol Hill was aware that this dude was chasing chicks, and they
13:10didn't care until they started to see there might be a political cost to the
13:16party writ large based on his behavior.
13:19They were covering this up.
13:22They were covering it up for years because he was useful.
13:26The second he became a political liability, to use your phrase here, or to use
13:32Tom Cruise slash Colonel Nathan R.
13:34Jessup, United States Marine Corps, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba's phrase, the code red.
13:39They ordered the code red on him, and it's so interesting to see why, and
13:42we'll talk to Steve Hilton, who's his primary Republican opponent in that California governor's race
13:46in the top of the next hour.
13:48But Clay, what this tells you is that if he was free and clear to
13:53be governor, if he was going to sail through and win this election without causing
13:58any problems, do you think they would have done this?
14:01No. Because I believe if he can win, even if this came out after he
14:05was in office, they would say, first of all, it wouldn't come out this way.
14:09So they wouldn't run the, this was a total destruction campaign to take out Swalwell
14:17from this governor's race, and they were effective in doing so.
14:19Yes. But as a reminder for everybody, this is not about what is honest or
14:23ethical or good. So funny, do you see Stelter?
14:26He's like, this shows the power of journalism.
14:30I'm like, Stelter, honestly, man, I'm going to send you TRT in the mail if
14:34it's something I can do.
14:35Like, we can't have this anymore, buddy.
14:37The power of journalism. No, they were, here's what I think happened.
14:40I think that the other opponents on the Democrat side got wind of this.
14:45I think the Katie Porters of the world said, if this doesn't come out now,
14:50then the story will come out after he's the nominee, and it might cost us
14:55the governorship, and the Democrat Party ordered the code red.
14:58They said, hey, we're going to stop protecting him now.
15:01It's time to take him out.
15:04That's the way I think this went down.
15:07Well, I, yeah, I think there were concerns.
15:09So that's interesting. I think there were concerns that he was splitting the vote, and
15:13that at the end of this, it was going to make a Republican much more
15:16viable. You think, because Clay, there's no Republican infrastructure to run this story.
15:21We couldn't run this story.
15:23No, I think. The only reason it takes him out is because it was New
15:27York Times and political, and it was home team hit job.
15:30San Francisco Chronicle initially broke it on Friday afternoon.
15:33Who's going to come out with this, though?
15:35Who's going to come out?
15:35If he's up against a Republican and a general, if it's one -to -one, and
15:39they're the two from the jungle primary, San Francisco Chronicle doesn't do that.
15:43No way. You think so?
15:45No way they run this, to give it to a Republican.
15:47I think Katie Porter went to them.
15:49We'll talk about this more.
15:50All right. Let's. It was definitely a code red.
15:54The question is, what was the thinking of the people running it, right?
15:57So we'll come back into this.
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17:17all right welcome back in here to clay and buck we are talking about the
17:20swalwell situation clay what about this idea what if it just am i going to
17:26be a coincidence theorist here what what if just the women because he was leading
17:30the governor's race they decided enough is enough and then because the the timing of
17:36this does not why not keep him off the ballot entirely when they knew that
17:40he was you know i'm saying for the democrats it feels weird that this is
17:44eight of them running i don't think that they expected to be in a situation
17:48where none of them really had become the uh lead candidate and then he got
17:53all the indictments i mean sorry all the endorsements uh we'll talk about it when
17:57we come back yeah we'll get into this because it's wow you know it's a
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19:00clay travis buck sexton show i will say it i think eric swalwell is a
19:08conniving lying untrustworthy scumbag based on the evidence buck again being fair to him in
19:17a way that he was not fair to brett cavanaugh not fair to president trump
19:21any number of republicans who he said hashtag believe all women the exact opposite of
19:27what you should do you should never believe all men or all women men and
19:30women lie yeah you should believe evidence you should believe facts that's why lady justice
19:35is blind i don't think he committed a crime here i don't think he committed
19:41a crime uh based on the allegations that are out there right now from the
19:45san francisco uh chronicle and from cnn um but uh and by the way the
19:52reason i don't think he committed a crime was this woman alleges that he sexually
19:56assaulted her in 2019 and then she slept with him again in 2024 and she
20:03says he sexually assaulted her again um and basically that she could not consent i'm
20:10paraphrasing here her allegations because she had too much alcohol i if i were sitting
20:15on a jury and you told me she alleges that he raped her five years
20:21ago and then she went out drinking with him again and says that he raped
20:27her again i would just say if i'm on a jury or i'm the defense
20:31attorney how many women out there if you had been raped by a guy would
20:37you voluntarily decide to go out drinking with him again that to me does not
20:42have the ring of truth and it's also why i don't think it's unfair to
20:48look at the allegations and say hey if a court of law wants to examine
20:52them but does that strike you as a rational take uh to believe that he
20:58committed a crime it doesn't to me first of all you would have been a
21:02great defense attorney i really would have like you know i know you've chosen this
21:07path and we're having a lot of fun here on radio and it's worked out
21:09fantastically but you would have been a great defense attorney because you truly believe in
21:12the system i'm very cynical about the system in many ways you truly believe in
21:16the system you're you're like a guy you're you are exactly if you're accused especially
21:21if you're accused and you're innocent you want someone like clay who is who is
21:24innocent until proven guilty have our day in court lady justice is blind the whole
21:29thing right so that's i really do believe in all of that even if it
21:33sometimes means that i have to defend dirt bags like eric swalwell i just don't
21:39think this adds up now so we're just gonna just finish one thing before we
21:42get on the criminal part of this though the criminal part of it doesn't really
21:46matter that much in terms of see see but i know it does because i
21:51think if he had just been accused of sleeping with women that were not his
21:55wife he wouldn't have dropped out of this race and i think democrats would have
21:58been hard pressed to get him to drop out no but see this is this
22:02is uh this is clay where i see it a little differently here but when
22:05i say the criminal part doesn't matter please understand i'm saying that whether he is
22:10beyond a reasonable doubt guilty or not or their charges or not on that i
22:13think he's done politically which is why he's already stepped away right but you think
22:17even if there hadn't been the criminal allegations that they were sufficient enough that democrats
22:21would have thrown him to the wolves there is among democrats particularly a real uh
22:30shall we say sensitivity to men on capitol hill using their power to sleep with
22:37employees that alone you know if you're in congress and you are by the way
22:44i believe it's against now it's not a crime but i believe it's against like
22:47congressional rules it's certainly also against general employment rules you're not actually allowed to be
22:53clear there's also a problem well there's a whole allegations at least with the former
22:59dhs uh chief for trump you are not allowed to sleep with a government employee
23:04who is in your chain of command you're not allowed to do that that is
23:07a big a big employment law no no for obvious reasons this guy had a
23:13pattern and practice of using his role in congress to at a minute but by
23:21the way he's basically said that he is he's saying this was consensual right he's
23:24not saying he didn't sleep with women he's saying it's consensual so that alone as
23:29a member of congress with this wasn't just i was having affairs this was i
23:33was a man in congress sleeping with my very young of age but young female
23:39staffers that's a big problem like that's a pr nightmare it's also a congressional nightmare
23:46now we get to if he can't run for governor why should he still keep
23:50his job in congress and i think democrats are going to have a they're going
23:53to have a challenge with this one yeah well one thing i would push back
23:57on is exactly what you described is what joe biden allegedly did with tara reed
24:02and they just pushed it all to the side and pretended it didn't exist joe
24:10biden the allegation was that he sexually assaulted a woman who worked for him tara
24:16reed back in the day all right all right counsel i'm gonna the prosecution does
24:21not rest yet the joe biden situation and to be clear i found her entirely
24:26credible not just because i don't like joe biden but just because of she worked
24:29for him the circumstances joe biden's a creepy handsy weirdo so i did find her
24:33credible credible is different from beyond a reasonable doubt though in a court also to
24:37be fair but clay that was a one -off to be fair to biden versus
24:41swallow that was a one -off situation not a pattern in practice it was a
24:45long time ago which i know that you start to get into this but there
24:49is a time difference with 30 years ago versus 2020 or whatever i mean people
24:53are more likely so i think that those two factors made it easier for them
25:00to do what they wanted to do which was to just ignore the biden thing
25:04i'm not saying it was ethically or morally different i'm just saying that do the
25:07swallow thing i mean this guy he's already out he's he was he was the
25:11nominee so uh biden was a nominee at the time which goes to your argument
25:15of once you're the nominee they'll defend anything here's the other thing i would say
25:19though um i think that either tom steyer or katie porter uh had this and
25:26they knew they had to deploy it now because otherwise swalwell was going to be
25:32one of the two nominees now to your point they may not have cared once
25:35he was the nominee it's possible they would have just said oh you know you
25:38can't trust this because they want him to get into the office but i think
25:42it's not coincidental that they deployed it right now voting starts june 3rd so they
25:49waited until six weeks out he announced in november he ran for six months he
25:55had just gotten and this is so significant we'll talk with steve hilton about this
25:59at the top of the next hour who's running against eric swalwell as the republican
26:02he had just gotten all the big union endorsements teachers union endorsed him a couple
26:08of the other big unions he was an overwhelming favorite to be the democrat nominee
26:14now it's a jungle primary so -called meaning the top two go but i think
26:18they knew they had to put the code red in because otherwise he was going
26:22to be the nominee so i think katie porter if i had if you asked
26:25me i think katie porter put this in the works she is also thoroughly unlikable
26:30uh she got divorced after allegedly dumping potatoes boiling potatoes on her husband's head the
26:38boiling water that the potatoes are cooked in i mean that's the potatoes would be
26:41hot the boiling water would be quite unpleasant yes uh they are now divorced um
26:47no surprise married who married katie porter i might have a little bit of uh
26:51questioning there if you you know i'm gonna say this if you marry a chick
26:54who looks like shrek i feel like you're expecting she's at least going to be
26:57nice that's a good point you would you would think if yes she's not she's
27:03awful and remember her campaign kind of went off the rails we played this on
27:07the audio when she was getting uh interviewed and she just went after the interviewer
27:13over hey do you want remember do you want Trump supporters to vote for you
27:17and she just lost it for no reason so she's thoroughly unlikable which is why
27:22now the favorite is this guy Tom Steyer who is basically they has the charisma
27:28of a snail but he's a billionaire and he's willing to spend a lot of
27:33money and he is now the favored Democrat candidate it appears to benefit now from
27:41Swalwell being out by the way if Swalwell didn't drop out I think he still
27:49would have gotten a lot of votes now he wouldn't have had the money to
27:53be able to run which is really why I think he dropped out because all
27:56of his supporters abandoned him he's not independently wealthy but I think it's been shown
28:01that voters have a higher standard for whether they should or not is an interesting
28:07question but a higher standard for misbehavior from candidates than the media that covers the
28:13candidates or many of the political party operatives in general you know what I found
28:18really interesting I was just checking this out I know that uh Tom Steyer so
28:21let's talk Tom Steyer for a second first of all he's one of these climate
28:24change nutbags yep which is no like climate change has fallen off as an issue
28:30because you have to for some reason ignore everything that you can observe about this
28:36like what's really happening what the what the what the data actually says it's just
28:40a garbage issue they'll bring it back because people forget about how it was wrong
28:45all along but in the meantime Tom Steyer is one of these you know climate
28:48changes and existential threat people he founded Farallon Capital back in the 80s and was
28:54a very successful hedge fund guy now a little bit of this is kind of
28:58just being right place right time you're in the valley starting in the 80s the
29:01greatest explosion of wealth creation in Silicon Valley really in the history of the planet
29:06uh in in many ways occurred in that area and you're an investor guess what
29:11you're gonna okay okay fine you know you could say that a lot of people
29:13right place right time Clay he did investments back in the day this is just
29:18you this is I love Grok his investments included fossil fuels coal projects private prisons
29:25which let me be clear I have no problem with this like these are good
29:29these are these are you know companies they're they're operating the private sector he invested
29:34in them good for him but he made all of his money investing in real
29:38stuff fossil fuels coal plants and then turned or not all of it but made
29:44a lot of his money in this and then turns around and is like well
29:47the whole world's gonna end unless we all start riding bicycles and cut our co2
29:51emissions it's like a weird lib guilt thing that's really what this guy is he
29:56is the in the poster child for lib bay area guilty conscience became super rich
30:03off of the capitalistic economy that he now pretends is going to destroy the world
30:08because of co2 emissions and now he's going to spend billions of dollars to try
30:12to get elected as the next governor of California let me ask you this we
30:16can talk about it when we come back we got some interesting calls we'll get
30:19to you guys as well he's you asked the question he's not running for governor
30:24now he's dropped out why is he still in congress like I don't understand why
30:30if you're not able to continue to run which is why I would have told
30:34him hey just say it's not true and stay in the race once you drop
30:38out now I think the answer is democrats give him a pass once he drops
30:41out they're like they need that they want as many seats in the house as
30:45possible there's a but see this goes to this was a code red yep right
30:50because they're they're not giving him because they don't need him for the governor's race
30:54they don't want him in the governor's race but they need him in con you
30:57need him on that wall democrats they need him in congress guarantee you they told
31:02him if you drop out of this race then we won't come after you in
31:06congress the votes are there to allow you to stay in congress my point would
31:10just be if you're not able to run for governor why are you able to
31:13actually continue to serve as a congressman this is data point data point number 3
31:19million 257 uh in the democrats have no principles arena yes it's just power folks
31:27whatever is power that's what they want nothing else matters and here is another part
31:31of principle that I'll stand behind democrat or republican I don't think you should get
31:36kicked out of congress for allegations I really don't particularly because all it does is
31:42incentivize baseless accusations because then they can be politically powerful um to use against you
31:49and again if I'm looking at this evidence I don't buy the fact that he
31:53committed a crime I just I don't believe that you sleep with somebody in 2019
31:58allege that you're sexually assaulted by them and then go out for drinks and hook
32:03up with them again would you ever if you're a woman listening to us right
32:07now if somebody sexually assaulted you would you ever go out to drink with them
32:12again like that just doesn't add up and it's like you're not allowed to ask
32:17these questions because oh we have to hashtag believe all women but I would say
32:21the same thing about men by the way has there ever been a man who
32:24said I was sexually assaulted I drank too much and I couldn't consent to sex
32:29has that argument ever been made by a man have you ever seen it a
32:33straight man I have never a straight man have you ever heard any of you
32:39in your lives have you ever heard a straight man say I had too much
32:44to drink, and I couldn't consent to sex as a result.
32:48I've never heard a straight man make that.
32:50Maybe a gay man has.
32:51I don't know. Biology, because of testosterone, et cetera, we have about 10x the sex
32:57drive that women do, and so this results in very different decisions.
33:00I get it. I totally get it.
33:02But I've never even heard that argument made.
33:05Oh, I drank too much.
33:06I couldn't consent to the sexual act.
33:09Most of the time, most of the time.
33:12Why is there one interference for you when some of the grandmas get a little
33:14too handsy with you? They squeeze a little bit to the side.
33:18It's a good thing Laura's not around.
33:20She'll karate chop them. Most of the time when one person is drunk, the other
33:24person is drunk too, I'm just going to say.
33:28This is like leaving aside the, obviously, intentionally drugging people, things like that, which is
33:35not alleged here. But if that happened in 2019, would you ever go out drinking
33:41with that guy again? Like, that's the part of it where I just look at
33:45it and say, this just doesn't pass the credulity test to me.
33:48But we'll take some of your calls, and Steve Hilton is going to join us
33:51at the top of the next hour.
33:52It doesn't mean he's not a dirtbag.
33:53It doesn't mean that I don't, I'm not glad that he's gone.
33:55I really want to hear his version of why the code read it, because clearly,
33:58I want him to tell us why he thinks this happened when it happened.
34:01And it came from Democrats.
34:02It wasn't Republicans coming after him.
34:04We'll talk about that with Steve Hilton and see if he has a theory on
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35:22News, politics, sports. And a little fun thrown in, too.
35:27Clay and Buck, it's a whole vibe.
35:30Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
35:32Man, the show flying by today.
35:33So much going on. We had that live stuff from President Trump.
35:36Iran, we are in a game of chicken with the Iranian regime now over the
35:41Strait of Hormuz. Trump feels very confident in his side, his position.
35:44And I'm not seeing a lot of grumbling from the party faithful of Magoville, if
35:50you will, that they don't think Trump's going to see this through.
35:54We'll follow up on that, but also coming up here.
35:56So why are Democrats so freaked out about the Swalwell governor's race, California, all of
36:02this? Because there's a Republican who's sitting atop the charts of their jungle primary.
36:08That's right. Our friend Steve Hilton, the one and only.
36:11He's going to be joining us here momentarily.
36:13Clay, I mean, honestly, is there anybody else in the political scene right now that
36:17we would rather talk to?
36:18I don't think so, unless Swalwell would want to come on, but he'd probably bring
36:21his lawyers. So let's talk to Steve Hilton, Clay.
36:24I really want to hear his take on, yes, we understand that they sat on
36:28this. The why now, to me, is really an interesting piece of it.
36:33Yeah, I'm curious what he would say.
36:35We will tell you, we did invite Eric Swalwell on the program to answer any
36:41questions. He has not said yes.
36:45Doesn't surprise me. But Steve Hilton will be back with us next.
36:49We'll talk about all of this news.
36:50When did he become aware of it?
36:52Why does he think it happened?
36:53And what's going to occur in the campaign next?
36:55All that coming up.