Hour 3 - Steal the Bacon!
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0:35Hour number three, Clay Travis, Buck Saxton's show.
0:39We've been having a lot of fun.
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0:51As we are moving closer and closer to the State of the Union address that
0:56will be delivered in prime time this evening by President Trump.
1:01Expectation. You heard Bill O 'Reilly last hour say that he expects a long State
1:06of the Union address. Right now, over, under, in the prediction markets is, I believe,
1:1299 minutes. That's over an hour and a half.
1:16I don't know about you, Buck, but oftentimes I like to actually listen to the,
1:22sorry, read the State of the Union because you can read through it a lot
1:27faster than you can watch it with all the clapping and everything else.
1:31Are you a nerd like that sometimes, too?
1:33Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I'll usually watch it, but I'll watch it with Cary
1:36and Speed, and he'll do something cute, and I'll stop paying attention for a second,
1:41and then I'll have to go back, or he'll start.
1:43He does this army crawl thing where now he army crawls so fast that you've
1:47got to keep, you know, he moves like a little rattlesnake.
1:50I've got to keep eyes on him.
1:51You know, he's very quick.
1:52You've got to be careful around those stairs.
1:54Got the baby gates up, all that stuff.
1:56All this stuff is happening.
1:58And I've got Ginger Spice, who loves playing with Speed now on the carpet.
2:02They're like best buddies, and they will get, like, a toy.
2:08She'll leave a toy in front of him, and it's almost like, do you remember
2:11the game Steal the Bacon when we were kids?
2:13Did you ever play Steal the Bacon where you had to run and grab the
2:16ball that was in the middle between, like, two lines of people, and you had
2:20to call people's names out?
2:21You don't remember? You've never played Steal the Bacon?
2:23No, I don't ever. Is this, like, only at my summer camps?
2:27Maybe this is a Northeastern thing.
2:28I don't know. Maybe you guys call it, like, you know.
2:30It's a form of dodgeball.
2:31Like, I remember they would put the balls all in the middle for dodgeball, and
2:34then you would run and go grab them, and it was risky because you might
2:37get pegged while you were grabbing a dodgeball.
2:39Like, you run, you grab the ball, and you run back to your line of
2:41people, and if the other person catches you and tags you, you're out, or whoever
2:45gets the ball. I've never heard of this game in my life.
2:48Maybe, like, some camp counselors just came up with this at the camps that I
2:51went to. Is this a Steal the Bacon?
2:54Have you ever heard of this?
2:55Am I alone on this one?
2:56Did I just? Oh, my God.
2:58Buck's on Buck Island. I thought everybody knew Steal the Bacon.
3:01I've never heard of Steal the Bacon.
3:05I probably will get in trouble for saying this, but I will say it.
3:08When I was a kid, we used to play a game called Smear the Queer,
3:13which is no longer a popular phrase anymore.
3:16Good heavens, Clay. Good heavens.
3:17We called it. What kind of camp are you going to?
3:20And everybody tackled him. That sounds like the Southern version on some level of what
3:25you are describing, except your version is a lot more civilized than mine, where everybody
3:30just destroyed one person. Did we lose Buck?
3:39Bacon is... I think we lost Buck's audio.
3:41He starts talking about Steal the Bacon.
3:43Now he's back. Okay, he's back.
3:45I am so outraged about this.
3:47Thank heavens for Grock. Steal the Bacon.
3:48Steal the Bacon. I was like, people out there were like, this guy played Steal
3:52the Bacon. We can't trust his opinion on anything.
3:55Is a, quote, popular... Did we lose his...
4:00Your audio is coming in and out.
4:02The big, big, big CIA has come after Buck, and he starts talking about Steal
4:07the Bacon. And is it just me, or is he popping in and out?
4:11Are you back with us now?
4:12I mean, I can hear you guys.
4:14I must be on the Comrade or something.
4:16You're back. You're back here.
4:18But you're going in and out as you're trying to explain Steal...
4:20Of all the things that you could be cut out.
4:23My point is... My point is that this is not some Buck Island phenomenon.
4:27This is a widespread camp gym class game called Steal the Bacon, exactly as I
4:33described it. Anyway, my point was merely that Speed and Spice play this game now.
4:38Ginger will drop a ball in front of him, and it's like who can get
4:41to the ball first? And Ginger's a lot quicker right now, so she always wins.
4:44But it's very fun to watch them.
4:46So, yes, that will be happening while Trump is doing his State of the Union
4:49address. But also, I will read it the next morning.
4:52Here's my thing for everybody, though.
4:54Great speeches are short. Yeah.
4:58The best speeches... That's my concern.
4:59...are 20 minutes or less.
5:01The best speeches are 20 minutes or less.
5:04Speeches go too long. Nobody wants to hear it.
5:07Nobody cares. Everyone tunes out after a while.
5:10Well, this is my... People sometimes come to me, because I guess at some level
5:13you and I are public speakers of some note or have some capability in the
5:18speaking realm. We are vocal cord athletes, perhaps.
5:22And we're never on a telepronation.
5:24sometimes people ask so we have every day now everything that we say is completely
5:29unscripted so people sometimes come to us to ask for advice on speaking and whatever
5:35i say and particularly for weddings is or any but anytime you're giving a toast
5:40or anything short just make it short just say what needs to be said say
5:45what you know you know and be who be who you are if you can
5:48be funny be funny but if you know you can't be funny don't try to
5:51be funny just keep it short and keep it straightforward be who you are and
5:56keep it short is the best advice i give to everybody and they say what
5:59short i'm like well that is where you got to draw the line but i'm
6:03telling you this much i have never been to an event where people were like
6:09frustrated or annoyed that a speech was too short i have been to countless events
6:16where people were writhing with agony in their chairs and and reaching for the nearest
6:22johnny walker to just throw down a glass anything to make the pain stop because
6:27you know uh page 47 of the speech page 55 of this like no nobody
6:33wants to hear the worst thing for best man best woman or whatever it's called
6:37bridesmaid speeches some of those are just disasters like you go on when i met
6:42sally we were in the freshman year and oh my gosh i thought we would
6:46be the best of friends from the first moment ha ha ha that's why when
6:52i said you're just like oh please please make it stop one good story about
6:58your friend that will connect with everybody not an inside joke that three people in
7:03the room are going to get make it toast get out get in get out
7:08fast it's like a robbery um this uh 50 democrats are skipping the state of
7:16the union address up to this number uh representative andy craig from the uh crazy
7:23state that has gone insane of minnesota said well listen to what she would rather
7:29do than attend the state of the union this is cut 33 i would rather
7:40stick forks in my eyes than be here tonight to listen to donald trump uh
7:44talk about the state of the union but this is the people's house and i
7:50will not abandon the people's house so wait she is going and she even though
7:56she would rather stick forks in her eyes i can't even keep up with who
8:00is going to be there and who is not going to be there but that
8:04is very funny that is representative angie craig i don't know the rules i tweeted
8:09have you ever heard of that person before i never heard of that person i
8:12just thought you know like a lot of people like you work in politics there's
8:15435 of these jokers you think we know all of them yeah and uh and
8:21the forks in the eyes really that sounds kind of awful um and this is
8:25also very funny um i think it would be amazing and i don't know what
8:32the rules are do we have speaker mike johnson talking about this i think it's
8:36cut 10 where he talks about trying to fit everybody in i really do not
8:41only would it be funny i think it would be a big deal going to
8:43the state of union is a huge honor there aren't that many seats i know
8:48it looks big on television when you watch it but the house of representatives chamber
8:52does not seat that many people so the idea that democrats are going to just
8:58give up 50 seats i think that the the white house should just say okay
9:02we're bringing in soldiers we're bringing in first responders we're bringing in ice agents and
9:08we're going to let them watch the state of the union because it's an incredible
9:12honor to be there maybe you could even bring in the u .s men's hockey
9:17team and put them in these seats uh here is mike johnson speaker of the
9:21house talking about the difficulties of just fitting everybody in and the rules accordingly listen
9:28cut 10 the president called me sunday night and he said mike we got to
9:32make some changes we need some more guests okay well you know the state of
9:36union is a very well attended event and the gallery is already full and we
9:39have waiting lists of people that want to be there i said mr president how
9:42many people are you talking about i think the whole team okay well so we're
9:46going to work out logistics and and somehow some way we'll we'll squeeze in uh
9:50the hockey players tonight and it'll be a great moment for america um it will
9:56be a great moment for america and we'll see whether or not democrats are going
9:59to continue down their absolutely insane path whether they are going to steal the bacon
10:05as one might say or not from president trump's already impactful statement uh that uh
10:14hopefully will be uh substantial but look look hour 39 i would rather play steal
10:20the bacon for an hour and 39 minutes i think than watch anyone speak for
10:25an hour and 39 minutes so i would agree with you if i were giving
10:28president trump advice i would say in and out 45 minutes or less um that's
10:33a decent state of the union in this uh an hour and a half he
10:36would be he'd be a hero for this because you could really do a performance
10:42in 45 minutes where you start off strong you get to the sauce you get
10:47to what you need and then you finish strong nobody remembers the last 30 minutes
10:53of a state of the union address no matter i don't care if you do
10:56this for a living i don't care if you're trump's biggest fan there's there's a
11:00limit to how much sitting there and stop and clap and all this sort of
11:04stuff nobody remembers these they're too freaking long okay this is just the reality of
11:11human attention spans these speeches are too long they don't need to be this long
11:15and and i'm just here to help and tell people the truth to tell people
11:19the truth about this stuff and trust me with my with my keep it short
11:22i'm saving you all so many so many rough toasts everything else here is the
11:28other thing i would encourage them to do in addition to keeping it short it's
11:31already written and i'm sure they're revising it up to the last minute tell the
11:35story of violent crime hitting 125 year low tell the story of border crossings not
11:42being uh basically existing now the thing that i would say that is important is
11:48this is one of the few times when president trump has the ability to talk
11:53to people who don't know the things that all of you listening to us right
11:57now do you know we're at 125 year low for murders you know that the
12:03border is completely secure you know that quarter three four point four percent gdp you
12:09know that interest rates on mortgages are the lowest level since 2022 that inflation is
12:15down to 2 .4 percent this is one of the few times tonight when democrats
12:21might be watching or persuadable voters might be watching where you get to tell them
12:28what you believe without it being colored by the prism of how cnn and the
12:34new york times and msnbc and the washington post and all of the legacy media
12:38outlets are going to cover your story that's the one thing that i would say
12:43punch hard factually accurate with the positive things that you have done in the first
12:49year and change that otherwise are not publicly out there this is your opportunity yeah
12:55i i think that the president is look we're going to come here and say
12:59he did a great job but that's because he has so much to work with
13:02that's going well and that he can say our true accomplishments and also anyone who
13:08says that this president isn't an incredible showman and entertainer is deluding themselves he's he's
13:13the most remarkable certainly since reagan the most remarkable uh entertaining politician a lot of
13:20people say barack obama gave a great speech i mean off prompter he was never
13:26impressive at all uh he was not an impressive public speaker without a speech he
13:30put everything on prompter for that reason largely yeah i mean was he good on
13:34prompter yeah he was he was solid i'm not going to pretend like he wasn't
13:37uh he was good on prompter but off prompter he was very i'm trying to
13:41look at this as a practitioner myself here uh off prompter he was not impressive
13:45reagan trump these are people who just came up with stuff on the fly that's
13:48hilarious insightful uh and trump is in that category so yeah his speech tonight because
13:54he's going to do some of the asides he's going to we got some of
13:57them in the front row here and hey back there high five you know he's
14:00going to be trump he turns everything into the trump show whether you're in the
14:04white house the situation room you're in the uh joint joint session of congress anywhere
14:09you are it turns into the trump show immediately do you sign on this i
14:14don't know if i've said this before i think i have on the show if
14:17you told me one thing that i could alter in modern american politics imagine how
14:22much things would change if we banned teleprompters ban them from all public speaking you
14:29have to show up and actually make the case yourself for what you believe like
14:35we do every day i'm holding up my little yellow legal pad with my notes
14:38jotted down go out and make the case for what you believe without reading it
14:44off a teleprompter i think 90 of politicians would be unable to do public speaking
14:51if you took away their teleprompter why does that matter because they're not arguing if
14:56you can't say what you're arguing for off prompter then you're just an actor who
15:02is out there reading lines that somebody else wrote for you to address the nation
15:08and it means that you don't actually have any depth of knowledge yourself which is
15:12how aoc at munich and situations like these with kamala harris blow up so often
15:17because if i don't know if you saw or they have no depth but with
15:21tears in her eyes or maybe she had a cold i couldn't tell aoc clay
15:26thinks the problem isn't her knowledge the problem is you uh she was she was
15:33definitely uh definitely troubled poor aoc being held accountable for her moronic takes uh if
15:39you're continuing to think on a serious level about what's going on in the middle
15:44east and what has been endured by so many there uh i went to israel
15:48a year ago uh in december it was an incredibly eye opening experience i want
15:52to go back uh i want to take my family uh i want them to
15:56see what life is like in israel for themselves and i would encourage all of
16:00you out there to consider a similar trip um and what i saw uh is
16:05the attacks against israel were fueled by complete anti -semitism and unfortunately we're seeing it
16:11all over the united states around the world we just saw what happened at uh
16:15i believe it was bondi beach uh in sydney australia uh where a guy showed
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19:58Welcome back in. Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton's show.
20:02Hello, Margo Martin reports from the White House that Team USA has officially arrived, and
20:08she has posted a photo of them posing in front of the White House.
20:12I believe that is on the South Lawn.
20:15So prepare for everyone to lose their minds over that.
20:20Now, we have got a bunch of talkbacks, many of them very funny.
20:25Let's start with Kelly. Well, I mean, I'm not surprised by this take.
20:29I think everyone, basically, is not offended by President Trump's remarks in the locker room
20:36while talking to the U .S.
20:37men. But here is Kelly from Northeast Arkansas.
20:40Gee. As a woman, I'm not offended by President Trump's remarks.
20:43He has daughters and granddaughters who play golf, so he obviously supports women in athletics.
20:48These hockey players just offended themselves out of a once -in -a -lifetime opportunity to
20:52be honored by their countrymen.
20:54Can we stop normalizing getting offended and getting praised for instead of being called out
20:58for the lack of character and maturity it shows?
21:00There is nothing less patriotic than to represent the U .S.
21:03on the world stage and then shun the president of your country.
21:05Now, that's offensive. Well said.
21:09Esther. Perfect. Esther. Was that the name that I said?
21:13What was the name that...
21:15Old -timey name? Yeah. Is that what you're saying?
21:19Ethel. Ethel. Ethel. I was like...
21:21Somebody was mad at me in Ethel back in the day.
21:23I haven't heard of an Ethel.
21:24Well, you said everyone named Ethel is 80 years old, and then we had a
21:28bunch of our esteemed and beloved 80 -year -old listeners calling in to light you
21:31up. For being correct. I think that's what I said.
21:35I said no one has been named Ethel since 1935, and that is true.
21:40I have not heard of an Esther in a very long time either.
21:43She's out in Staten Island listening to us on WOR.
21:47and she remembers Steal the Bacon, but she's Jewish, so they had another name for
21:53it. Steal the Bacon. I went to a Jewish summer camp, and instead of saying
21:57Steal the Bacon because Jews don't eat bacon, we played Steal the Salami.
22:01It's exactly the way you described it.
22:03Thank you. Love your show.
22:06Wait, isn't salami also a pork product?
22:08Why would that be better?
22:10I'm confused, right? I mean, Producer Mark is Jewish.
22:14Salami is more of a sauce.
22:19Oh, I'm sorry. Salami is, okay, Crash, Producer Crash comes in.
22:23Salami is beef. Whoa, whoa.
22:25I was way off on that.
22:26Sorry. I thought salami was a pork product all this time.
22:31You've got to hide the salami.
22:33Kelly in Oklahoma City. It's no Polish sausage, let me tell you.
22:39Buck's roommate introduced him to Polish sausage.
22:42Also introduced him to hide the salami.
22:44Kelly from Oklahoma City. The 1 ,000 KTOK.
22:49What you got for us?
22:51Holy crap, Buck. You unlocked a memory treasure trove when you brought up Steal the
22:57Bacon. It is totally a thing.
23:01And Steal the Bacon was a great game.
23:03It was a great game.
23:04And also, if you were really good at it, you smoked somebody so badly that
23:08sometimes they would, like, kind of trip in the grass on the way because they
23:11got surprised when their name.
23:12Clay, you'd call out their name.
23:14So I would call out, like, or, you know, somebody would call out, like, Clay,
23:17Buck. And you'd run to get the ball in the middle.
23:19And if you weren't paying attention, home slice, all of a sudden you were eating
23:22dirt. And I was stealing that bacon.
23:26I've never played this game in my life.
23:28But a podcast listener who requests to stay anonymous says he is a P .E.
23:35coach in Miami. And Steal the Bacon, a big part of his P .E.
23:41repertoire, cut 11. Buck, you're not alone on that island.
23:44I'm a P .E. coach here in Miami, Florida.
23:47And Steal the Bacon is the best game.
23:49It's the go -to game here.
23:51Kids love it. Teaches them about life.
23:55They've got to be ready to get that bacon and take it back to their
23:58team. This gentleman is, by the way, he's correct.
24:02It is a microcosm of capitalism.
24:04It's like, you know, you've got to be, when you're called, when your name is
24:08up, you better get that bacon or somebody else is.
24:10Like, this is life. He's correct.
24:11Did you have P .E.
24:13every day at your fancy high -end high school?
24:15You did. We used to play dodgeball.
24:17We had to wear a jacket and tie.
24:19We would play dodgeball in our jacket and tie, which in retrospect feels like some
24:24kind of punishment. But we would just be wailing each other as hard as we
24:28could with these big rubber balls wearing a little, like, emblazoned blazer with our, you
24:34know, our rep tie on.
24:36Crest on it. I don't know how P .E.
24:39teachers are now. And P .E.
24:42teachers of America are probably going to unleash upon me.
24:46If you had to pick a school teacher who did the least on a day
24:52-to -day basis. Oh, don't be throwing this at the P .E.
24:57teachers. I don't want big P .E.
24:59coming after me. But I went to public school K -12 in Nashville.
25:04The number of P .E.
25:06teachers that had the greatest jobs on the planet and just rolled the basketballs out
25:12or just, you know, rolled the kickballs out or whatever it was and just kicked
25:17up and chilled. Overwhelmingly, P .E.
25:21was the place where it was the easiest teaching job.
25:25I got to throw a flag here, Clay.
25:27Okay? First of all, for Mr.
25:29Sportsman to be throwing the P .E.
25:31teachers of America under the proverbial bus here.
25:35All right? To be leaving them last picked for dodgeball, so to speak.
25:39Unfair. And let me explain why.
25:41A lot of places, like this was the case at my little Catholic school in
25:47New York, which was St.
25:48David's. You had coaches. So the coaches of the teams also did P .E.
25:55classes. You know what I'm saying?
25:56So it was like the guy who was the head basketball coach would also take
26:00some P .E. during the day.
26:02That often happens, too, so he has more time.
26:06But I had a lot of P .E.
26:07teachers. And, again, I'm asking, has the P .E.
26:14ease, like, is it more organized now?
26:17I had a lot of P .E.
26:19teachers that just said, hey, here's the eight basketballs, kids, and would just throw them
26:23out. And I don't complain.
26:25I would rather play basketball during P .E.
26:27class than have some sort of, you know, every now and then we would have
26:31a really aggressive P .E.
26:32teacher. And he was like, this week everybody's playing badminton.
26:35And you're like, what are we doing?
26:36Like, what are we playing badminton for?
26:38So I'm not opposed necessarily to P .E.
26:40teacher who just lets you play kickball every day.
26:43But are they more regimented now?
26:46And, unfortunately, I also know that they have taken P .E.
26:49out of a lot of schools.
26:50And then they came back and said, well, we have to mandate P .E.
26:53Now, I'm just curious what P .E.
26:55is like now. I remember when I was a kid in school that there was
27:00never enough in the day.
27:01We never had enough sports time.
27:03And we always had too much.
27:05You know, this is what, like I said about the speech thing, I think kids
27:07are subjected to too many hours of wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah in a
27:12classroom. Most young kids were reasonably – I don't know.
27:15energetic and you know they want to be running around getting getting after stuff for
27:19at least an hour and a half two hours a day and that's really what
27:21and we sports class was always like 45 minutes by the time we actually were
27:25you know ready for it was not it was not enough so i think there
27:28should be more of that but it's funny to me clay because i remember again
27:32i'm talking grammar school now but if you had if we like had and i
27:36had a pretty my class was pretty notoriously bad uh with a lot a lot
27:40of misbehavior in that class and if you were naughty they would make you do
27:45like calisthenics and push -ups which is funny because now as adults my wife all
27:49of her friends they're paying people to yell at them to make them do push
27:53-ups at these classes but when we were kids if you were really bad it
27:58was like i'm going to make you get stronger and improve your physique darn it
28:02you know and you're like no why are you so mean arguably push -ups is
28:06the single best workout if you had to only pick one that you could do
28:10um and uh in that context by the way you were talking about the hours
28:15that are wasted ai have you seen some of the articles about how ai is
28:21designing optimal two -hour instruction days for kids and i know a lot of you
28:26out there have done homeschooling and you have these homeschooling lesson plans and you can
28:32get through them in a couple of hours and kids have hours and hours and
28:35more of entertainment clay i do think re -examining the way that we do uh
28:40elementary school education in particular much of it is broken i i guess the data
28:45would reflect this is i'm i am in it i am an aspiring radical on
28:50this and that we should do a whole other you know we should do more
28:55of a deep dive into this and get some people on because there are things
28:58popping up here in miami where you have um you don't have the same established
29:04school system uh at an elite level i'm just going to say it that you
29:07did in say new york city where i was right you just it's not you
29:10don't have the same amount of choice you don't have there's no stuyvesant equivalent here
29:14which is a public school where you basically have to test in like the 97th
29:19percentile of all test takers to get it like you don't have that here it's
29:23just not the same pool and so people are getting more creative with how they're
29:27educating their kids because there's just too much demand on the school system already for
29:30the good schools here there are some very good schools here but there's too much
29:33demand so people are getting more creative i bring it up because even where i
29:37live i'm finding that there are more people doing this this hybrid learning has this
29:42terrible because of covid and it's like hybrid learning no no true hybrid learning meaning
29:47they'll do with tutors in a pod two or three hours a day with a
29:52couple of other kids in in one home or in one location then they'll join
29:56for sports and like traveling sports like teams like they're competitive and they'll go do
30:01that and there's ways to do this because a few things are emerging one is
30:06that kids are in school too long especially at a young age and uh the
30:10school system is not getting better if anything it's getting worse and the uh also
30:16a lot of the school system used to have uh well i could go on
30:25and on like about this i'll just say it is it is an interesting point
30:28here that ai gives us ever there's a lot of talk about ai but it
30:35gives us an opportunity to re -examine whether we are doing things in the most
30:38efficient and cost -effective manner possible across much of society and i genuinely wonder my
30:47kids are basically through elementary school now and i i feel fortunate they've all went
30:51to public school k to six basically uh and then they've gone to private school
30:56since but i feel like we had great public schools great elementary school teachers i
31:00have loved it but i do wonder on some level uh whether there is a
31:07better way to educate kids that's more effective and more cost productive do you think
31:12that also a lot of do you think that a lot this is something that's
31:16been bandied about a little bit on the internet do you think that a lot
31:19of particularly all who would have been all -star female teachers because of the you
31:25know basically went to work and became this is an became vps at morgan stanley
31:29instead i think that's an interesting i'm not saying there aren't a lot of great
31:33teachers okay we're talking about our macro level hundreds and hundreds of thousands of different
31:36roles but you know small changes in the in the average make big changes for
31:42the outcome and i do think that our generation saw the first surge of of
31:49a lot of women who would have just by nature of women tend to do
31:53veterinarians nurses uh pediatricians school teachers these were heavily female dominant professions became much less
32:02so and i i think you might have lost a lot of great particularly female
32:07teachers and i think the quality of the teachers you're getting because of the economic
32:12incentives to do other things has been hurt in places so i i think that's
32:17all real i think that needs to all be considered as part of this as
32:19well i'm i talked i mean carrie thinks i'm nuts because i also went to
32:24you went to fancy schools i went to fancy schools and i don't pretend that
32:26i didn't i mean i went to a scholarship school and you went to school
32:29on a full scholarship so it's a little bit of a different picture than like
32:32just fancy but you know what i'm saying academically considered academically elite places i i
32:38think there are better ways i'm talking especially for young kids people want to send
32:41their kids to the most rigorous high school one of the most rigorous college, I'm
32:44not going to pretend like that's not, you know, advantageous, but first grade, fourth grade,
32:50you got to have kids in class eight hours a day.
32:52I'm sorry. It doesn't add up to me.
32:53It doesn't make sense to me.
32:55I think we should reexamine a lot of this and try to take the best
32:59practices that come forward. And honestly, we had Secretary of Education Linda McMahon on.
33:03And for instance, going back to what makes more sense has been what led Mississippi,
33:10for instance, which is not renowned for its educational system historically to have tremendous success.
33:16And so I think challenging the way that people do things.
33:20Now, biggest challenge on this buck is going to be teachers overwhelmingly because of the
33:25unions fight anything, anything that you try to change.
33:29But I definitely wonder if we're doing what is the best method to teach kids
33:35writ large. Do you know what the massive budget in New York City, Clay, of
33:39one hundred and twenty billion dollars?
33:41New York City's budget is going to be bigger than Florida's budget under mom, Donnie.
33:44Forty percent of that budget education department for New York City.
33:48I think the number was that the average New York City kid, they're spending forty
33:53thousand dollars a year on educating them.
33:56Is that the right number?
33:57I saw they're actually spending forty thousand dollars a year on adults getting jobs where
34:02they don't do very much, but they vote Democrat.
34:04That's actually what they're spending the money.
34:06The reason why I was thinking about it is a lot of people out there
34:08here and see, oh, that private school costs forty thousand dollars a year and they
34:13think that's outrageous. Every public school kid in New York City, we are spending forty
34:19K a year, the equivalent of on their education in public schools.
34:24And many of them are getting awful educations.
34:27It's just a broken system.
34:28I mean, again, I this is a deep dive on this.
34:31But when I see some of this data, I think it is super intriguing and
34:35we should spend more time addressing it than we do as a as a society
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36:32Want to get to a bunch of calls.
36:33We're going to dive into it right now.
36:34I just want to say a quick listener point out, Clay, that Genoa salami is
36:39in fact made from pork, so I am not crazy.
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36:45So, David in Jackson, Michigan.
36:47David, let's go. We got 30 seconds for all of our calls.
36:49You got 30. Go to it.
36:52Indoor pool. About the early 70s, three maybe.
36:58Required in seventh grade. Swim naked indoor pool with the boys.
37:07Girl's locker room was on the other side of the gym.
37:11And it was required. It was strange, gentlemen.
37:15All right. Thank you for the call.
37:16My in -laws told me about this.
37:18No, no, Buck. This is a Michigan thing.
37:21That was the call. My father -in -law, my stepfather -in -law, told me once,
37:25he said, you know, you think your kids, he was telling my kids, you think
37:28PE's tough now. We used to get trained to swim naked at school.
37:33And I was like, there's no way this is true.
37:35All over Michigan, they had pools indoors.
37:37They had naked pool training.
37:39This isn't unique to Michigan clay.
37:44Men's clubs, and I don't mean like bathhouses.
37:47I mean like men's polo and racket clubs in places like New York City.
37:53They were all male, and there used to be naked swimming.
37:56The New York Athletic Club, which is a vaunted institution in New York City, when
38:04it was all male, it was optional, but people would swim naked there.
38:09I, I, I. Don't even know what happened back in the past.
38:12This is crazy. Joni, Des Moines, Iowa.
38:15Quickly, Joni, give us an endorsement here.
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38:24the 80s. Watch the new documentary on Netflix.
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