Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Feb 25 2026
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0:09My friends, it was the best State of the Union speech I've ever seen.
0:14I'm just going to come right out and say it.
0:16A little bit of a mea culpa, actually, because I'm a little salty about State
0:21of the Unions. Most of them are boring because they go too long.
0:25I watched every minute of this one, as I tend to always do, because this
0:28is our job, but it was not boring.
0:30It was soaring. It was majestic.
0:33It was pageantry. It was fantastic, honestly.
0:37I feel like a movie reviewer.
0:38I laughed. I cried. I felt my heart soar.
0:42It was fantastic. I mean, it was the best.
0:44I could not say enough good things about Trump's State of the Union.
0:48He was absolutely dialed in, locked in, en fuego, all of the above.
0:53Now, we will dive into some of the policy, of course, as well as the
0:58very well -deserved victory lap that was the bulk of the opening, certainly, of the
1:05speech. And the Democrat responses, oh, my gosh.
1:09This Democrat party is nuts.
1:11In fact, I think one of the most powerful moments, Clay, of the entire— Now,
1:17look, before I get into the Democrats, actually, I want to focus on the positive
1:22here because many of you are probably familiar with Internet terminology and, for example, the
1:29red pill, which comes from The Matrix, which I've been saying for a long time.
1:32Actually, I used to say this on my show, Clay, when I was doing a
1:35Saturday show for, like, five people on the Internet.
1:38I would say, guys, you know, we've got to take the red pill here.
1:40And it became very popular because of the movie The Matrix.
1:44And it means to see things as they truly are.
1:46But now there are different pills with corresponding colors.
1:50And there are people on the right—there are people that will say you're taking a—
1:55A white pill means you're seeing things in a very sort of benevolent light.
2:00A red pill is you're seeing things as they are.
2:02Blue pill is you're part of the normies, or you still have the world sort
2:08of shrouded and presented to you without seeing with clarity, which is from The Matrix.
2:14And then the black pill is I'm just—everything is bad.
2:18We're never going to win.
2:19Everything is terrible. There's some black pilling that happens sometimes on the right where people
2:24just want to get down.
2:25And I saw a little of this in the commentary of, But what about this?
2:29And Trump didn't do that.
2:30But, Clay, I just want to set this marker.
2:33Because I don't know—I don't say that every State of the Union address is great.
2:35In fact, most of them, I think, are a waste of time.
2:37Most of them I do because it's my job.
2:39Not only was this the best State of the Union speech, that was a marker,
2:43a high point, I think, for looking back at what has been, in its totality,
2:50an unbelievable first year of Trump's second term.
2:53And I'm somebody who was there in the trenches with the fighting back against the
2:58Russia collusion stuff, which was totally messing Trump up in the first term and sandbagging
3:04and, you know, undermining everything he was doing and dealing with the bad picks that
3:08he had in that first administration.
3:10I'm not a, oh, rose -colored glasses guy.
3:13Everything is awesome. Clay, before we get into anything else, I just—I think it's worth
3:17taking this moment of this administration has delivered enormously on securing the border, on bringing
3:26down the crime rate nationally, on a booming economy.
3:31We can go through this piece by piece.
3:33The data speaks to it.
3:35Everyone needs to take a moment.
3:37Enjoy the win. Enjoy the victory.
3:39Because, unfortunately, this too shall pass.
3:43He will not be president forever.
3:45He might not even have the House for more than another year.
3:48And the Democrats will get into this, Clay.
3:51They're insane. They are a wacko party.
3:55Well, I mean, I think that, to me, is— everything comes down to a couple
4:00of moments, even more so in a social media age.
4:04Most people did not watch a two -hour speech.
4:08And you loved it. I've got to be honest with you.
4:11It would have been better if it were an hour 15 instead of nearly two
4:15hours. So I was watching.
4:18I was also doing what a lot of other people are doing, probably.
4:22I was watching a basketball game simultaneously on a second screen.
4:25Okay, this is the most Clay thing ever.
4:26You're watching a basketball—we're switching roles here.
4:29Usually you're the one that loved the movie, so to speak, and I trashed it.
4:32You're not trashing it, but you're saying it was too long, which is what I
4:35was worried was going to happen.
4:36I actually sat through the whole thing and thought that he really pulled the whole
4:40thing off without it. I mean, look, I think all city unions should be 30
4:43minutes, but that's me. I'm crazy.
4:46I thought that it went on too long.
4:50With that in as my criticism, because I think it just dragged to me, I
4:57thought it was the most optimistic, patriotic speech that Trump may have ever given.
5:04And if you were just a reasonable person, right, not someone who is a Trump
5:10-deranged psychopath, and you just watched that, I think the results would be somewhat similar
5:17to what CNN actually showed, which was 64 % of the speech viewers really liked
5:24it. I prioritized it first.
5:24And on the way, nothingiorally...
5:24It couldn't do anything on this one.
5:24Using the equivalent of you to Eminem pueblo, the President of Garcia and the President
5:24who should have witnessed I I would say there's about 35 % of people.
5:27Trump could have come out last night and said, I cured cancer, all of your
5:32grandmas and grandpas are now going to be resurrected because of massive technological advantages and
5:39you're going to get to hang out with your family again.
5:41And they still would complain, right?
5:43Whatever the greatest thing, and I balance the budget, and whatever the greatest accomplishment that
5:49you think a president could render, there's about 35 % of the population that would
5:55hate it just because Trump has broken their brains.
5:57And I thought there were two things that really stood out, Buck.
6:01One was when Trump said, they're insane.
6:03And the second one was when they're not willing to stand for things that are
6:09completely non -political in nature.
6:12And I think this is going to bounce back in Democrats' disfavor in a fairly
6:17substantial way because being sort of retroactively opposed to whatever Trump is in favor of,
6:25it is working against them.
6:28And I thought Trump did a good job of making a case.
6:30If I were giving advice, I would have said, do it in 115 instead of
6:34145. I think 30 minutes of that speech could have been cleaned up.
6:38But so much of it was just a spectacularly optimistic story about America and how
6:45our lives intersect with the 250 -year -old history of the country.
6:49And in that way, I thought it was very well done and the most optimistic,
6:53probable speech that Trump has maybe ever given in his presidency.
6:57You noted two of the most important policy, which I think pretty universally people felt
7:04like the Democrats not standing for, we want to put citizens above foreigners, basically.
7:11Like Americans matter more to the American government.
7:14Their future and their well -being matters more to the American government than other people.
7:18Democrats just fundamentally don't believe that, actually.
7:22Democrats view anyone from anywhere in the world, no matter what their background, their language,
7:29their politics, their credo, whatever, as, well, maybe that could be a voter, you know?
7:35I want to just start giving them welfare and turn them into a voter.
7:38That's how they view anyone from anywhere.
7:40Anyone is as American as any of you, as long as that person is going
7:44to be on the government dole and vote Democrat.
7:47That is truly how they feel and how they think of this country, which I
7:51think is a huge vulnerability for them politically.
7:54It should be, or else we're just on a slow glide path into the side
7:57of the mountain and our sovereignty is done.
8:00But, Clay, the two moments for me that were particularly just powerful, the USA hockey
8:06team thing. I'm not a hockey guy.
8:10I admit that. I got so many thoughts on this, too, that we can dive
8:13into eventually. But that moment was pure cinematic gold.
8:17It was, you know, Ronald Reagan high -fiving Hulk Hogan on the back of a
8:25Triceratops with American flags fluttering in the background, you know, flanked by eagles.
8:32Like, I mean, it was amazing.
8:34All right? It was an absolutely beautiful moment for the country.
8:39It was just so cool, all those young guys there, you know, the big win.
8:43And it really is about America.
8:45And I think, I would hope that even somebody that despises every aspect of Trump's
8:51policy at least had their moment, you know, they smiled and looked at those guys
8:58and said, they're our boys and they did a great job.
9:02And our gals, they weren't there last night, but, you know, the gals team did
9:06a great job, too. And I just think that that national pride is something that
9:10I want to see in everybody, irrespective of who they vote for or, unfortunately, Democrats,
9:14a lot of them, not all of them, it's not fair to say all of
9:16them, but a lot of them don't.
9:18And, Clay, the other moment for me was when he told the story of the
9:21pilot, Chief Warrant Officer Slover, going into Venezuela, getting his legs, I mean, I'm assuming
9:28it was probably getting hit by 7 .62 rounds.
9:31I mean, I don't know.
9:32They didn't talk about this, but getting hit by, you know, getting hit in the
9:36legs and in the hip and continuing as a Chinook pilot to make sure that
9:41that bird came down and the mission was completed, and that guy, you could tell,
9:46he's still recovering. There's still probably a lot of pain he's dealing with and immobility
9:50issues from, you know, you get hit with those kind of rounds, especially talking about
9:54hip stuff. That's very, point is, man, that guy's just an American hero and American
9:59badass and be able to give him the Medal of Honor.
10:01I know there are other Medal of Honor winners, too, and they had amazing stories,
10:03but this guy, it just happened.
10:06And I just, that wasn't about Trump, right?
10:10Yes, no, totally. It's about the country, truly.
10:14So how can they not love that?
10:16How can you be an American and not say, you know, this is one of
10:20the best of ours right here, this guy who put it on the line and
10:23got the mission done? Eric Slover is his name.
10:28And what, first of all, he looked uncomfortable being there because I guarantee you if
10:34they had given him a mic, he would say, well, I was just one of
10:37insert number of guys that were on that radar.
10:39That's how those guys are.
10:41At the highest level, the operators, that's how they are.
10:44But as he stood there and he was still, as you said, recovering, he had
10:48aid, I think, crutches, basically, to help him walk.
10:52he looked like an American badass monster in a good way, right?
10:58Just huge. I don't know how many reps on 315 that guy can do, but
11:03I would go for a high number.
11:05I mean, he looks like a guy who had committed his heart and soul to
11:10defending America to such an extent that he was there to get the utmost of
11:16his body and give the utmost of his body on behalf of the country.
11:21And that, to your point, they had 200 -year -old, a World War II veteran,
11:26a guy who flew missions, I think they said, in World War II Korea and
11:31Vietnam. I mean, both of whom were getting the awards.
11:35I thought it was the most patriotic pro -American speech that Trump may have ever
11:39given. And here's what stood out to me, Buck.
11:41And I think this ties in with the U .S.
11:43men, and I've got so many thoughts on a deep level about this.
11:46You can argue, as we have said on this program, about what the tax rate
11:49should be on corporations. And you can argue about what policy should be in place
11:55when it comes to ICE raids and all these other different things.
11:59But really, what I think President Trump distilled with this address is, there is one
12:05party that is proud of this country and proud of the United States and feels
12:09intense patriotic loyalty to America, and that is Republicans.
12:14And then there is a party that is ashamed of America and everything that it
12:18represents, and that is Democrats.
12:20And that is a big, major issue writ large that doesn't have anything to do
12:26direct with policy. And I thought Trump's address was delivered right at that intersection of
12:33conflict over the existential and super important question of, is America a good and just
12:43country or not? Republicans say yes, Democrats say no.
12:47And I think that goes to the very essence of our political battles in this
12:51day and age. And I thought that address really focused on it.
12:56Also, Trump, just taking a moment for him here, because there was a lot of
13:00stuff that really was about the country, and it was beautiful.
13:03And all of the victory laps that he started out with are just factual, too.
13:08This isn't... When Biden says things like, oh, you know, we've got American jobs, we've
13:13brought back the economy, it's like, you mean you Democrat maniacs allowed people to go
13:17back to work because they had already gotten a nasty cold that they weren't going
13:21to die from in the first place because they weren't, you know, at high risk?
13:25Like, that's your great economic contribution to stop ruining everything and spending us into oblivion?
13:32The accomplishments that Trump was laying out last night are just that, they're accomplishments.
13:36No matter how you slice it, the reality is he's done incredible things.
13:40But the other part of this, Clay, is he's just a showman, man.
13:43I mean, when he goes out with the Democrats or, you know, oh, they're shrieking
13:48and howling and they're all so upset and they're acting like, really acting like the,
13:53you know, the unruly children in the school auditorium that the dean has to go
13:57and give a talking to.
13:59You know, Trump is just like, yeah, you're crazy.
14:01You know, he's shouting them down.
14:03The guy just puts on a show.
14:05There's nothing else like it.
14:07We have seen nothing else like it.
14:09And I thought it was phenomenal.
14:11Do I always think that a speech could be short or short?
14:14But I actually, last night was the first time that I wasn't like, this has
14:16gotten brutal. That was kind of my, meaning got way too long.
14:21So overall, I thought it was his best State of the Union speech.
14:24And I go into these things pretty, with low expectations.
14:28So we'll talk about some of the Democrat stuff, some of the big policy moments.
14:31Also, Clay, I think worth discussing, this setting aside money for American children in accounts,
14:38understand, like, basically putting everybody in a place where they will benefit from the American
14:44economy and the financial system.
14:46There's some big things about this that I think really matter and we should discuss.
14:52Because this is a way you want to deal with, like, the wealth gap and
14:55you want to deal with quality of life and all these things.
14:58There's a lot to this.
15:00By the way, we should have taken George W.
15:03Bush's advice a long time ago and indexed Social Security to S &P 500 index
15:08funds. If we had, the country would be on much sounder financial shape instead of
15:12you giving all your money and getting back 3 % returns or whatever the heck
15:17it is 40 years later.
15:19Social Security, the way it's set up, is just, it's a joke.
15:21Throughout the State of the Union speech, President Trump honored our military, old and young,
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16:38Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
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16:50Welcome in, hour number two.
16:52It's the day after a State of the Union that was spectacularly well -received as
17:00President Trump made the case that his policies have drastically improved life in America for
17:09many. And he ran through all of those arguments.
17:13I just come back to again, Buck.
17:15He ran on EBC, Economy Border Crime.
17:20After one year, the economy is very strong.
17:24Growth rate in the third quarter, 4 .4%.
17:27Inflation down to 2 .4%.
17:30Mortgage rates just hit a four -year low.
17:33For those of you out there in the housing market looking for 15 or 30
17:37years, you are now getting lower rates than at any time since 2022 before the
17:44Biden inflation took over. You've got record high stock prices at the S &P 500,
17:50the Dow Jones effectively. You have, as we talked about, and I think it's such
17:55a huge deal, the safest country from a murder perspective that any of us have
18:00ever lived in. You have basically everything going really, really great.
18:07And by the way, 800 -282 -2882 if you want to weigh in.
18:12But you mentioned, Buck, and I think you're right.
18:15And it seems to be the part that is echoing very strongly today.
18:21The U .S. men and Trump basically calling Democrats crazy for refusing to stand when
18:28he asked them, hey, do you think you should try to improve the lives, I'm
18:32paraphrasing, of citizens more than illegals?
18:36And one of the angles that is being used to attack Trump and by proxy
18:42the U .S. men for visiting with Trump who had won the gold medal for
18:48the first time in 46 years, I mean, these U .S.
18:51men are being attacked mercilessly by many in left -wing media.
18:57And I thought that we should maybe dive into this.
19:01I think, do we have, Producer Greg, this clip ready now?
19:05Okay, so if you're out there and you're wondering, okay, why are they getting attacked?
19:09Yes, they're getting attacked because they went to the White House, because they're unapologetically pro
19:15-America. All those things are true.
19:17But if you push back on that and you point out what is indisputably true,
19:22which is people have always visited the president, president, Democrat, Republican, has always congratulated gold
19:28medal winners and had them visit the White House.
19:31What they circle back to, Buck, is Trump insulted the U .S.
19:36women's hockey team. And this is a Laura Travis special, Buck.
19:40This is a Laura Travis special because she's fired up about this because she said,
19:44I'm seeing this all over my social media feeds.
19:47I don't know if you saw this story.
19:49A Canadian hockey player shared a photo of him with his daughter at Disney World.
19:56He is a Canadian NHL hockey player.
19:59He was not on Team Canada.
20:00He was not on Team USA.
20:03And he was attacked mercilessly on social media because people said, how dare you laugh
20:10at a joke about women's hockey players and then have a photo posted of you
20:16with your two -year -old daughter at Disney World talking about how you're a girl
20:21dad. This is real. I don't know if you saw this story.
20:23I mean, they're insane, but how do they know he laughed at the joke?
20:26He wasn't even there. That's my point.
20:29They're just attacking every hockey player right now because they're saying, oh, he's a misogynist.
20:37He laughed at a joke.
20:38And so I wanted to play the joke because it's much less significant.
20:42But this reminds me of the very fine people hoax.
20:46When they spent years telling you that Trump loves Nazis, he said they were very
20:51fine people. And he didn't.
20:53But they so embedded the idea that what he had done was say that Nazis
20:59were very fine people and white supremacists.
21:01And in fact, he had done the opposite.
21:03He had actually condemned them.
21:05So usually when you go and deconstruct a joke, this is what losers do.
21:10Because you either laugh or you don't laugh at a joke.
21:14And you don't go back and then say, oh, I'm so sorry.
21:17I didn't think about the larger context of the joke and how it was going
21:22to impact the indigenous people whose land we stole.
21:25And I feel, oh, so please forgive me.
21:27This is what they're saying.
21:28They're saying they want the U .S.
21:29men to apologize for laughing at a joke.
21:32So here is the joke.
21:33I want you to listen to it.
21:34And then I'm going to do an actual deconstruction of the joke and show you
21:38how dishonest the coverage of this has been.
21:41So, Producer Greg, this was in the locker room.
21:43Cash Patel is holding up his phone.
21:45President Trump is congratulating the team.
21:47Listen. We'll get the cash and we'll get the military to get you guys over.
21:52Thank you, Mr. President. What would really be cool, and we'll do the White House
21:56the next day, we'll just have some fun.
21:57We have medals for you guys.
21:59And we have to, I must tell you, we're going to have to break the
22:02woman's team. You do know that.
22:04That's right. I do believe I probably would be impeached, okay?
22:13Okay, so he's making a joke, but I want to deconstruct this.
22:16And by the way, if you couldn't hear it, that men in the background are
22:19actually cheering and saying two for two, meaning they both won gold medals.
22:24But when he says that, he says, otherwise I'll be impeached.
22:28The joke is at the expense of Democrats and anti -Trump deranged people who would
22:36attack him if he had just invited the men and not the women.
22:40They would say, oh, you're super sexist.
22:43Oh, you're misogynistic. So the joke is actually at the expense of his critics.
22:48Second part of this, Buck.
22:50The women who are outraged by this, and it's everywhere on social media, the crazy
22:55cat lady battalion is fired up because they're so outraged that people laughed at that
23:02joke, which was actually at their expense, and they're not smart enough to see it,
23:06or they didn't actually listen to the joke themselves.
23:08Here's the second part of this, Buck.
23:11If Trump had delivered the most perfect invitation to the White House that has ever
23:16occurred to the U .S.
23:18women's gold medal hockey winning team, the same women who claim that they are offended
23:24by that joke that we just played would actually immediately demand that the U .S.
23:30women's gold medal hockey team not go to the White House because to go would
23:36be offensive to their politics, and therefore the women can't go.
23:40So what you have here is an entirely manufactured story, which has caught fire on
23:46the left, that is not rooted in the joke itself, and you also have primarily
23:52women complaining about the way an invitation was conveyed when they would never want the
23:59invitation to be accepted in the first place.
24:02And, Buck, I want to play this.
24:03This is MSNBC. If you're out there, maybe you're like me.
24:07Maybe you voted Democrat in the past, and there's a ton of you out there
24:10listening. Maybe you weren't like Buck, and at nine years old, you weren't reading William
24:14F. Buckley and convinced. A little bow tie.
24:17Yes. Drinking Earl Grey tea, thinking about the future.
24:22Maybe you weren't like Buck.
24:23Maybe you're a little bit more like me.
24:25And if you're looking around at this society, you think to yourself, I haven't really
24:30changed that much, and the world, as President Trump said, has just gone crazy around
24:35you. This is 2012. This is 2012 on MSNBC.
24:42A hockey player chose not to visit Barack Obama's White House, and this was how
24:50they covered it on MSNBC.
24:53This was left -wing orthodoxy just a few short years ago.
24:57Listen. Boston Bruins goalie Tim Thomas, RSVP.
25:01Thanks, but no thanks to a White House invitation.
25:04What do we make of that?
25:05Tim Thomas said, I exercise my right as a free citizen and did not visit
25:10the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion, both
25:13parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country.
25:17I mean, I think this is kind of the hyper -partisanship that just irritates everybody.
25:21It's like, just go to the White House.
25:23You don't have to run an ad or cut a commercial or anything.
25:26Just go to the White House.
25:28Take part. Celebrate. Just like everybody else celebrates with Republicans or Democratic presidents.
25:32Especially when you're getting honored.
25:34Obama made specific mention of him during his six -minute address.
25:40Buck, not going to the White House was actually the insult.
25:44Now, this is my position writ large.
25:47So if you want to clip this in 20 years and I've got a different
25:49opinion, you can play it.
25:51For 20 years, I've been saying, if you're on a sports team and you get
25:55invited to the White House, I think you should go.
25:57I don't see it as an endorsement of the president.
25:59I see it as a celebration of you and your teammates' accomplishments.
26:04Everybody in America, basically, had that opinion, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, until a few short years
26:11ago. And this is why this is important.
26:14The U .S. men haven't said a single thing about politics.
26:17They haven't told us what they think about any issue under the political sun.
26:21And during this entire attack that has been going on on them, it's entirely based
26:27on the fact that they are patriotic, that they respect the office of the presidency,
26:32and that they are willing to celebrate the accomplishments of the country, which they think
26:39is the best in the history of the world.
26:41It's important to understand that their very patriotism is being used against them by the
26:48left, because the left, I really do believe this is important to slam home, hates
26:53the country and the country's history.
26:56And they are using these U .S.
26:58men who are super popular as a way to attack all of this.
27:02And I think it's important to put it into context just how illegitimate and unfair
27:06all of this has been.
27:08I also think that it highlights, Clay, when you have Spamburger.
27:13I know it's Spamburger, but I think Spamburger.
27:15is more more apropos uh when you have her isn't it interesting also you have
27:20slotkin and spanger spanger both former government analysts like yours truly so what i tell
27:27you guys there are a lot of commies in in the government uh that's that's
27:31for sure um you know doing the civil servant thing but when she's the one
27:37giving the uh response which i watched some of it i honestly at some point
27:41turned it off but when you're watching this thing democrats to attain power have to
27:47pretend that the soul and the uh and the plan of their party is something
27:53other than that which it is the problem republicans run into is when they're in
27:58power they can't get everything done that they want to get done and sometimes that's
28:03because of some republican standing in the way but it's not oh we're doing something
28:07totally different than what we sold you on joe biden ran as a calm unifier
28:13and then said get the shot with your vaccine passport or you can't go to
28:18work and you can't go to school and you can't do anything okay these people
28:24run on a mountain of lies to get power and then they just ran through
28:31as much crazy left -wing nonsense as they can as fast as they can and
28:35hope that through propaganda and through manufactured delusions they might be able to fool people
28:43or rather it will fool people but also make people forget what they've done in
28:46the past the democrats last night clay what rashida khalib had a uh you know
28:52a prof profanity you know like sounds a bit like my name and then ice
28:59uh on her button and you're like what what you're a member of congress at
29:04a state of the union address you're not part of the marxist student alliance at
29:11uh at cuny at city university of new york or stuff like what are you
29:14doing but this is who they are they're malcontents and the ones at the top
29:19the ones that are like the more sort of elevated than the street communist types
29:23like nancy pelosi they're so corrupt and so uh venal and so self -dealing and
29:31just soulless this is who they are amen and i do think that for people
29:41who watched last night with persuadable minds and i understand a lot of people it
29:47doesn't matter what happens i said trump could have come out and said he secured
29:49cancer and brought everybody's grandma and grandpa back to life and there'd be people who
29:53are angry at him but for the people who are persuadable the data reflects that
29:57there is still a substantial majority of americans that believes in the country's history and
30:04greatness and that this is the best country in the history of the world and
30:09that is the reality under which the democrats are opposed and i i think that's
30:16significant um and by the way 800 -282 -2882 we'll take your calls get your
30:21talk backs uh we only have one guest today marsha blackburn senator from tennessee is
30:25on next hour uh but that is the only guest so you guys can weigh
30:29in and tell us what you thought in addition to everything that we have already
30:33broken down based on last night's uh state of the union indeed so with that
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31:52and we got a bunch of calls a bunch of things to get to and
31:55discuss talk about if you want to talk for a second to clay about the
31:58the book situation here oh yeah i tease that i think this is important i
32:02appreciate him calling you might think oh uh what is the impact of distribution in
32:09bookstores it's huge they don't put by and large conservative books in the front of
32:18bookstores they intentionally underbuy them so i mean what do the guys say they were
32:23two copies of your book and there were three copies of your book in huge
32:27bookstores with a brand new release that's been the case with every one of my
32:32books too they which is why amazon is actually where most of them get sold
32:37they said that 90 of conservative books are sold is the number that i've heard
32:42on amazon on because you can go right to and it gets shipped to your
32:46home and that's great but it means that only people who know you exist get
32:52exposed to your ideas right they don't play but john meets them in the front
32:56and you walk in and you're just shopping and you think to yourself oh who's
33:01this guy what's the arguments that he or she is making we don't get any
33:05of those opportunities in the cultural landscape they bury the book in new releases they've
33:11got two copies or three copies they sell them out immediately and then this guy's
33:15going in because he's a you know a book buyer and he expects for the
33:19book to be widely distributed and it's just not it's not an even playing field
33:23in that respect if any of you see a copy of manufacturing delusion if you
33:28happen to be going through an airport this week and you see it on display
33:31please take a photo and tag me and let me know in any of those
33:34because that's another big thing uh is is the airport book buy situation but i'm
33:42wondering if if any of those uh stores that carry those books whatever they're called
33:46uh the stores if they have manufacturing delusion if they're trying to sell it because
33:50yeah to your point clay you don't get the benefit of i mean you imagine
33:53if i walked into a barnes and noble and there was a big display of
33:57my book maybe a dashing photo of me with windswept hair and manufacturing delusion in
34:03both hands you know just like letting it go no that's not what happens they
34:07they and to be clear it's not about money they'd be making more money they
34:11don't want to make more money they don't like us that's what it comes down
34:16to don't like us don't want to help and uh unfortunately there are some of
34:22these industries still where the grip uh the political grip on the throat of the
34:28business is very strong advertising still overall and ad buyers libs lib dominated totally lib
34:37dominated uh and and publishing now there are conservative imprints at big publishing houses obviously
34:43one of them printed me i'm not saying that it's entirely but in terms of
34:47the distribution side of it like who's buying the books for the stores to put
34:52out totally lib dominated and it's just you know i i just wish we could
34:59do something about this and i can't say have elon buy barnes and noble but
35:03maybe he could probably get us he could probably get it for a song it
35:05just matters a tremendous amount in the marketplace of ideas you can mention bookstores and
35:10that's the perfect example because people theoretically going into bookstores are going there to buy
35:15books and one of the fun things about going to a bookstore is the serendipity
35:19of finding a book that you did not anticipate or know existed and you think
35:25oh this would be a great read book browsing is still a big deal here's
35:28the other one that i think is even more significant buck airports well that's what
35:32i was just saying i want to see books in the airports this is when
35:35the last time you saw a conservative book walking through the terminals at a display
35:40where you would see it when you're in an airport how many people buy books
35:44in airports huge percentages they don't exist they do not exist in that way so
35:50the callers right i mean this is a uh this is a significant issue and
35:55we've got a bunch of uh callers by the way yes we have a a
35:58bunch of callers as we will get you now um andrew in kentucky you're up
36:02what's going on buck uh love your show um just wanted to call and mention
36:09my favorite moment from the state of the union last night uh it was when
36:13trump was talking about the uh save act and he was talking about the hypocrisy
36:17of the left and mentioning the communist mayor of uh new york mondami and talking
36:24about how he was asking for uh snow shovelers but those snow shovelers needed to
36:29bring in two forms of id and a social security card yeah it's i mean
36:35look we hope everybody in uh wor land is doing well out there and certainly
36:39on long island where they got over two feet of snow and if you're listening
36:44to us in rhode island i think they got three feet of snow and by
36:48the way mentioning mom donnie did you see the videos that have gone viral the
36:51snow of the cops or the snow getting i i think it is absolutely despicable
36:57i don't think it's funny um i wish that those cops could have caught a
37:02few of those guys with a nice uh truncheon to uh you know the side
37:05of the knee um i i think it's it's horrible because i know people look
37:10oh it's a snowball fight actually first of all if you don't want to be
37:12in a snowball fight you're getting hit from multiple sides it's just assault it's actually
37:16assault and battery um and you know there some of these guys are throwing things
37:20that are basically ice so you're just throwing like a handful of ice at a
37:23cop from close range and there's so many people that they can't do it you
37:27know they're not able to do anything about it i thought it was grotesquely disrespectful
37:30i hope people get arrested for it they won't get prosecuted in any meaningful way
37:34because it's brag but it just goes to show you how disrespectful the um some
37:39of the unfortunately some of the residents of new york city and just you know
37:43these are all leftists the people that are saying it's not a big deal they're
37:46all leftists they hate cops because cops force the reality of accountability on people and
37:51the whole game of the left is no one's ever accountable it's always you're always
37:54a victim it's always someone else's fault also i just can't even imagine if you
37:59are the kind of person who's going to run up and some of these were
38:02they've got some photos out of people they're trying to arrest some people were running
38:06up with basically boulders of ice to throw at cops smacking on the Yeah, it
38:11was really, really nasty. I mean, they clearly were taking advantage of the situation.
38:16And look, these people deserve a good swift punch in the face.
38:19You know, I don't know what else to say.
38:21I mean, they deserve to get an ass kicking.
38:24And also, to your point, what do you think the odds are that people who
38:27have been completely law abiding their entire life decide to attack police officers with snowballs?
38:33I would bet those people have records that are a mile long, likely, because it's
38:38such a moronic thing to even think to do for most people.
38:41Look, and the cops have a tough job day in and day out.
38:45They do all over the country.
38:47And, you know, it's often a thankless job.
38:50Not always. You know, they do sometimes perform the Heimlich on a baby and save
38:55a life. I mean, you know, there's obviously thanks with it, too.
38:57And, you know, I think a lot of communities, I said here in Miami Beach,
39:01we're very supportive of our cops.
39:03And, you know, there's a very safe community.
39:05Cops are very well respected here, which I really like that.
39:09And, you know, the NYPD went through a post -9 -11 period where New Yorkers,
39:12I think, were particularly prone to show gratitude toward the NYPD.
39:17That's, of course, faded, though.
39:19And when you see this kind of disorder where you have these people doing this,
39:24the police officers, like, what is the mindset of somebody who thinks that this is
39:27funny? Like, that's someone's husband out there.
39:31Probably, you know, those cops probably are married, probably have some kids, and you're all
39:35smacking them with ice in the face because they wear a uniform and they're trying
39:39to keep the streets safe and trying to keep bad things from happening to people.
39:42What part of that is funny?
39:44What part of that is amusing?
39:46So, you know, but this is Alvin Bragg.
39:49He's a scumbag. He's a bad person.
39:51He's immoral. He's a race hustler.
39:53He clearly has a tremendous amount of animosity for certain people of certain backgrounds, and
39:58he won't do anything about this, guarantee you.
40:00Even if they're arrested, he'll do the bare minimum.
40:03And I think what you're going to see is Jessica Tish, and, you know, I
40:07grew up knowing the Tish family a little bit in New York, and they're good
40:10people and they love the city.
40:11I think you're going to see Jesse Tish say, I'm out, because there's not the
40:16back. If you don't have the district attorney and the mayor catching your back as
40:22the police commissioner and doing the right thing for law and order, your hands are
40:26tied. It doesn't matter. This is one thing that Eric Adams got right.
40:31The safety in New York City got far better during his tenure than it was
40:36before, and I think the fact that he is a former cop, it's not coincidental
40:40that that was the outcome.
40:42He got it. I'm not saying he was perfect.
40:44Clearly, he wasn't an ideal leader, but you see the story.
40:48He had serious, yeah, Eric Adams Clay had serious managerial limitations.
40:54Like, he just doesn't, he's not a guy you want running a $100 billion city
41:00budget operation and all the different, he's just not up, he wasn't up for that
41:04task. He doesn't have the ability to experience, you know, but he was in over
41:09his head. But he doesn't hate cops, and he doesn't actually think that, like, criminals
41:13are good people. And that was an improvement over de Blasio, to be fair into
41:17what you're saying. That was an improvement over de Blasio.
41:20You know, Momdani is much more of the de Blasio mold, and we're going to
41:25see, I think, more and more of this.
41:27And just wait until you have your first major incident with a cop in New
41:30York. It will happen. It's inevitable at some point.
41:33And see which side of the equation Momdani falls on.
41:37But, you know, the statement, guys, pull the statement that Momdani made about it.
41:41It was very, oh, it's, well, here it is.
41:45We have it. Okay, play cut 37.
41:47Here's Momdani speaking about these cops who were, they were being assaulted.
41:52I know people, oh, it's just snowballs.
41:55Okay, you can watch the video yourself and tell me if you think that the
41:58cops were enjoying this. Play it.
42:00I've said that what I saw was a snowball fight.
42:02It should be treated accordingly.
42:03It was one that got out of hand, but that's what it was.
42:05I'm not going to be banning snowball fights or organized snowball fights.
42:11I've shared my thoughts with New Yorkers.
42:14I mean, what if people just walked by cops and just smacked eggs in their
42:19faces? Is that funny? Is that a joke?
42:21It's against the law. Momdani is also, unfortunately, and by the way, Trump is too
42:26nice about him. He was too, and I know this is something that Trump is,
42:30he's funny because they all say, Clay, that Trump is, Trump's actually very nice.
42:33As long as you don't try to go toe -to -toe with him, he's very
42:36charming. Momdani's a bad guy.
42:39He's a bad guy. He's actually not a nice guy.
42:43He's a bad guy. He just smiles a lot and is smooth with people.
42:50The, yes, I agree with all of that, and he's falling rapidly on his face
42:56with a lot of the different decisions that he's made, and one of them, you
43:03were talking about Jessica Tish, is that New York City is basically deciding, due to
43:08a budget crisis, to not fund 5 ,000 police officers that they had previously anticipated
43:15and expected to fund. That's going to eventually blow up on them.
43:22There's no other way this is going to go, and believing that you can be
43:27kind to criminals is a luxury of a low -crime environment, and inevitably it leads
43:32to more violence. And I would just come back.
43:35I mean, I guarantee you if they arrest the people, People who were throwing snowballs
43:41at cops aggressively, they will discover that those guys have been arrested multiple times before.
43:47Because I just don't buy it.
43:48We're not talking about like a fun...
43:49If the cops are actually engaged in the snowball fight too, that's a snowball fight.
43:55Running up to somebody and pelting them constantly with snowballs because they're wearing uniforms is
44:01not a snowball fight. To your point, if it were eggs, it would be an
44:04assault. These guys should be charged.
44:07And I think when they're charged, you will find out that they've been charged with
44:10multiple offenses before. Right. I mean, I could walk up to someone and say I'm
44:15patting them on the back and whack them as hard as I can and do
44:20real damage and be like, oh, I was just patting you on the back.
44:23I mean, right? We all know these games.
44:25We all know that... And this is, of course, a classic leftist thing.
44:29But what Mamdani said there is disgusting.
44:31What I saw was a snowball fight.
44:33You sniveling little coward. Someone, I don't want to go...
44:37He's just the worst, man.
44:38He's just the worst. And it's a disgrace, a disgrace that New York has this
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46:10News and politics, but also a little comic relief.
46:15Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
46:17Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
46:22Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
46:23We are joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn of the great state of Tennessee, which has
46:29given us both a fantastic senator and a fantastic Clay Travis.
46:33So we have so much to be thankful for, Tennessee.
46:36And thank you for being here, Senator.
46:39Well, I'm always so delighted to join you all.
46:43Thanks for having me back.
46:45It really was an incredible State of the Union.
46:48And that comes, Senator Blackburn, from somebody who thinks even his own team, State of
46:52the Unions, are usually kind of boring and go too long.
46:54I thought last night was remarkable.
46:56I just wanted to get your top -line thoughts on it.
47:00And how was it? It was remarkable.
47:04And the two hours absolutely flew by because the president just kept rolling right on
47:12through all the objections that the left side of the aisle was throwing their way.
47:17I was so pleased he laid out where we were a year and a half
47:21ago with 9 % inflation, with chaos in the world.
47:24And then he drew it to today, where we're at 2 .4 % inflation, the
47:30price of gas coming down, the price of groceries beginning to normalize, wages going up,
47:37and job opportunities increasing. And our standing in the world is restored.
47:43Our allies are working with us.
47:45Our adversaries and enemies fear us.
47:49They know that President Trump means business and that he has the backing of Republicans
47:55in the House and the Senate.
47:58Were you stunned, even as someone who has been involved in politics for a long
48:03time, that when they had the mom of a murdered, innocent woman, and they had
48:10her stand, and when they had Charlie Kirk's wife, Erica, stand, and when even on
48:15a much less serious front, they brought in the U .S.
48:19men's Olympic team, that every Democrat didn't stand up and clap?
48:24I wish there had been even more of a camera on the larger viewing area
48:31so you could see it.
48:32But I've got to admit, I was kind of staggered.
48:35I don't know who gave Democrats that advice, but including, hey, do you think your
48:39job is to take care of citizens or illegal immigrants?
48:43That's right. I couldn't believe the way they behaved.
48:46Their behavior was appalling, and the fact that they would stay sitting in their seats
48:52and not stand to honor these who have lost loved ones, to honor those that
48:59have served our country, to honor the oath that they took to...
49:06protect and defend and honor the people who voted for them and elected them to
49:14make certain that they were there to serve the people.
49:18It was absolutely astounding. But you know what?
49:22This is where the line of distinction is.
49:26What we have seen is the current Democrat Party, which is led by the far
49:33left wing of the Democrat Party, the Democrat Socialists, they would rather take care of
49:41illegal immigrants than they would take care of the people that voted for them.
49:47They would rather provide for illegal immigrants than provide for the citizens of their states
49:57and the citizens of this nation.
49:59It is astounding. Senator Blackburn, you also wanted to talk to us today about this
50:08case currently with the courts involving social media and there's the Kids Online Safety Act.
50:16There's a whole range of issues coming together here.
50:19Can you just tell us first what is going on right now?
50:24We've got Mark Zuckerberg recently had to show up in Los Angeles County Superior Court.
50:30He testified. He's a CEO of Meta.
50:33There's this whole court case going on.
50:35It's with the jury right now.
50:37What are the items at issue and what do you want to see from this
50:41case? Yes, indeed. This case, which I will say this, Mark Zuckerberg being on the
50:48stand in this case, I don't know what the outcome, the legal ramifications of the
50:55case are going to end up being.
50:57No one can tell us exactly because there's a jury involved.
51:01What I do know is this, that Mark Zuckerberg lost in the court of public
51:07opinion because he continued to say that social media had nothing to do with the
51:15accelerated levels of anxiety and depression, eating disorders, teen suicide, and this bucket of mental
51:25health issues. When the research that Meta has and whistleblowers have given that research to
51:33us, and of course it was presented in court, and you know that they know
51:38what they are doing to kids.
51:40You know that they are designing programming to capture younger kids.
51:46We all know that the valuation of Meta and Google and all of these big
51:51tech companies, it is based on the number of eyeballs they draw to the page
51:57and the amount of time they can keep those eyeballs focused on their platform.
52:05So I think he lost in the court of public opinion.
52:10It has brought forward the need to pass the Kids Online Safety Act that came
52:16out of the Senate 91 -3.
52:18We have 75 Senate co -sponsors on it.
52:22It is significant. It would put in place a duty of care, a product by
52:29design safety standard for the virtual space.
52:33That is something at this point we do not have.
52:36Your grandkids, Mike, my sons, go to a similar school in the Nashville area that
52:43has a good technology policy, which is, and I know they probably may be cheating
52:49right now, but they're not supposed to have their phones.
52:52They're not supposed to be able to text message during school, and if they're caught
52:55with cell phones during school hours, there are consequences.
52:59Shouldn't this be the standard for every school, basically, in America?
53:03You're a grandma. Before that, you were a mom.
53:05As a dad, I think it's a no -brainer, and I think it's super bipartisan.
53:10Are you in favor of this?
53:11More and more schools not allowing kids to be on phones during the day?
53:16Oh, yes, indeed. Bell to bell, no cell.
53:21That is a very good policy for kids, and you know, there's a growing body
53:27of research that shows that children who do not have a cell phone on their
53:34desk, in their backpack, within reach.
53:37Their test scores go up.
53:40Their achievement goes up. Their participation in class increases, and the more you see this
53:47research, the more you know that it does matter, and you realize what a massive
53:52distraction it is to have that cell phone at the ready.
53:57I think one of the things that is so interesting about this also is talking
54:02to parents, teachers, and principals.
54:05Most of the behavioral issues that take place on school campuses find their nexus at
54:14the cell phone, and the bullying is 24 -7.
54:18It never stops. So putting those phones away for that period of the academic day
54:26forces kids to focus on what they are studying.
54:30It means that kids that go to study hall are active.
54:34actually doing research work, they're writing papers, they're pulling books out of the library shelves,
54:41and hearing from librarians about the change in behavior during those study halls is something
54:48that has not been lost on me.
54:52Speaking to Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, when you talk about, I just want to
54:56bring us back to this for a second, the social media issues for kids and
55:01online duty of care, are the social media companies, are they just saying that that's
55:06impossible, it's too expensive, it's not necessary?
55:09I mean, what's the counter argument?
55:11Because usually when it comes to any political issue about children, everyone at least pretends
55:17that they care about the kids, right?
55:19I mean, even the big companies pretend.
55:20So what are they saying in response to this?
55:23Why would they, you know, will they go along with it?
55:28I mean, why does it even require it an act by Congress?
55:32They have proven they cannot police themselves.
55:35They have also proven that when kids are on those phones, kids are the product.
55:40And, you know, one of the interesting things is that every industrial sector in this
55:46country has product safety standards, whether it's an automobile, a toaster, a mattress, a curling
55:54iron, everything has a safety standard.
55:58Everything except the virtual space.
56:01And the reason for that, big tech has spent millions of dollars lobbying.
56:08Last year, fourth quarter of the year, in order to take down the Kids Online
56:14Safety Act, Metta hired one lobbyist for every six members of Congress and spent $20
56:23million. I'm somebody that knows what it feels like to have big tech come barreling
56:31after them with lots of lobbyist lawyers and millions of dollars because they do not
56:38want to change their business model.
56:41They would have to change that business model if you put in place a safety
56:47by design standard, if you de -link the algorithm so that the algorithm can be
56:56controlled by the parents and the kids and not controlled by the platform.
57:04They don't want that. Senator Blackburn, last night I was at a in the black
57:11is what it's called event about trying to balance a budget.
57:15A bunch of people you know were there.
57:17It was awesome. I know you're running for governor, but the federal government inability to
57:25remotely make decisions that have to do like, let's use as an example right now,
57:32basic election integrity. You're going to be on the ballot in November.
57:36Tennessee thankfully has really great election integrity.
57:38But the fact that white, black, Asian, Hispanic people overwhelmingly believe that you should have
57:44to show a photo ID in order to vote to prove you're who you are.
57:49What's going to happen with that in the Senate?
57:51I think there might be a filibuster.
57:53How's that process going to play out?
57:55I still can't believe this is unpassable basically based on the Democrat response.
58:01You know, it's an 80 percent issue with the American people across all different demographic
58:08groups. And that's the thing that is so interesting.
58:12The fact that it has such broad bipartisan support.
58:15I mean, Zoran Mondami wants you to show two forms of ID in order to
58:21go shovel snow in New York, but he doesn't want you to show an ID
58:26to vote. What they're trying to do is make it easy to cheat and hard
58:31to vote. We want to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat.
58:36And we have got to have photo ID in the Senate.
58:42We are going to push the Save America Act forward.
58:45I look forward to having a vote on the floor.
58:48It should be common sense standard practice that you have to be a citizen of
58:55the United States in order to vote in our elections.
58:59And you have to show an ID and prove who you are when it comes
59:05to the issue of the balanced budget.
59:07And I have supported a balanced budget amendment for the United States.
59:14We have that in Tennessee.
59:16We have to balance our budget.
59:18We can't borrow money or print money.
59:21We have to be very careful about that and be a good fiscal steward.
59:26It means that some years, the leaner years, you cannot do some projects you want
59:32to do. And then it means when you do have years where you have a
59:36surplus, you have to be wise about where you place those dollars.
59:40The federal government should do likewise.
59:44And they would be well served to do likewise.
59:49Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us.
59:51You got it. Take care.
59:55There's a specific reason why the price of gold grew by 65 % last year,
59:59economic uncertainty. There's turmoil when there's uncertainty.
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