Hour 2 - Menticide IS a Thing

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0:34Welcome back in, everybody, to the second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
0:39Show. We have the FCC Commissioner, Brendan Carr, with us now.
0:43Commissioner, appreciate you being with us.
0:46Yeah, great to be with you.
0:47Good to be back. Can you just walk us through this a little bit?
0:51Because there's been, there's all this stuff in the news now, headlines, some sniping back
0:57and forth over this. So, there was a Texas Democrat state rep, James Tallarico, Stephen
1:05Colbert, and now the FCC's name is being thrown around and all this.
1:10What is this controversy? Can you lay out for us, like, what the assertions have
1:15been and what the reality is surrounding this?
1:18There's so many layers to this.
1:19It's really an interesting story.
1:21At one level, this is a story about why trust in mainstream traditional media is
1:28at an all -time low.
1:29Because for any person that is not suffering from sort of a terminal case of
1:35Trump derangement syndrome, it was so obvious from the get -go what was happening here,
1:39which was that Colbert and Tallarico concocted a scheme to try to drive views and
1:45clicks and donations and apparently votes by claiming falsely that the government had somehow censored
1:52their program. And what happened was the truth came out and CBS said, no, in
1:56fact, nobody, not even CBS, prohibited Colbert from running the interview that he wanted.
2:02They simply said, hey, if you're going to do this, there's ways you can do
2:05this that complies with equal time requirements.
2:07And we encourage you, apparently, to do that.
2:09But instead of doing that, they did that sort of meme where you take the
2:12stick and poke it through your own front wheel of your bicycle and fall down
2:16and claim that you're the victim for abuse.
2:18So it was pretty interesting to watch the arc of this story between mainstream fake
2:24news reporters falling for this hoax that was really about Democrat and Democrat violence.
2:30It was about a politician trying to get a leg up in the Democratic Senate
2:34primary, and it fell apart once the facts started coming to light.
2:38Here is a media analyst on CNN.
2:43I've never heard of this guy before, Bill Carter.
2:45I wanted to play this soundbite and then have you just react.
2:48Just tell us what's accurate, what's not here.
2:51This is cut 13. Play it.
2:52There are many TV shows, which, as you pointed out, makes this even more strange
2:56because if CBS was in a different situation than they are in and they wanted
3:01to fight this, they could have gone to the court and said, how can you
3:04put this rule on us and not radio?
3:06They're doing the same thing, and there's thousands of stations that are conservative talk radio.
3:11And there's no way that they would enforce the rule against them.
3:14So it does seem like selective regulation against them.
3:17So I'm surprised that maybe ABC will do that if they would go after Kimmel
3:21again. But, frankly, I just think that it's embarrassing.
3:24It really is embarrassing to me that you have Trump reacting to this small cadre
3:28of critics. Every president has been criticized by late -night TV, and only this one
3:32wants to sick his FCC on them.
3:35Sick his FCC on them, he says.
3:37What's really going on here?
3:40Well, if you step back, there's a rule that's been on the books.
3:42In fact, it's a statute going back to the 1950s that says if you're going
3:46to put a legally qualified candidate for office on broadcast radio or TV, so he's
3:52wrong there, doesn't apply to radio as well, then you have to offer comparable time
3:57and placement to other legally qualified candidates.
4:00And over the last 20 or 30 years, people have misread or overread FCC case
4:04law, and they've just assumed that everything from The View to Colbert is bonafide news.
4:09Because if you're bonafide news, you don't have to comply with the equal time requirement.
4:14And all we've done is remind people that if you think you're bonafide news, meaning
4:18not fake news, then come to us, and we will adjudicate whether you qualify for
4:23the exception. But other than that, you've got to comply with equal time.
4:26And why did Congress do this?
4:28It's pretty simple. They didn't want establishment media gatekeepers deciding who will win elections.
4:37They wanted the actual people in the voters to decide it.
4:40So they said you can't take your broadcast facilities and put your thumb on the
4:44scale for one particular candidate.
4:46And if you do that, you've got to open your facilities up to the other
4:49candidate. So it's about more speech.
4:51And this idea that this was somehow Trump censoring people makes no sense at all.
4:55Had they applied and complied with equal time rule, it would have been more airtime
5:01for more Democrats to say more of whatever they wanted to say about Trump or
5:07anybody else. But again, they just decided to run this hoax that this was about
5:12censorship because they knew that most of the mainstream media would have this comply with
5:18their priors. And they would run the story and, you know, the facts simply weren't
5:21there. Well, this seems to be a replay.
5:24some level of the of the Kimmel playbook where they claim victim and they they
5:30act like there's been this terrible wrong done to some Democrat mouthpiece in the media
5:35and then they get a boost in ratings they get all this attention and they
5:39have you know idiot celebrities who are standing with them in solidarity so I guess
5:44it worked for them in that case and so they're trying to just replay this
5:47for attention and for clicks that's right this seems to be the exact playbook it's
5:52the same thing we saw with Kimmel which is just nothing but projection and distortion
5:56it was so amazing for a media for an observer of the media here was
6:01this episode where this politician the Democrat Senate primary in Texas put out a tweet
6:07I think before daylight on the east coast claiming that he was censored by the
6:10Trump administration when no one here had anything to do with it and then within
6:14minutes hours the entire mainstream media apparatus just turned on a dime like a school
6:22of fish or a bunch of lemmings and it just reveals the cartel nature of
6:27so much of the national news media and then later in the day the facts
6:31came out and said that's not what happened at all and then they say well
6:33the narrative shifts like well the administration must be so awful that we were fooled
6:37by this that we thought this could possibly have taken place there's no reflection I
6:41mean these journalists are fed total slop by these candidates and they've got no problem
6:47regurgitating it and when they're called out for it they seem to be happy that
6:51they were part and parcel of another hoax we're speaking to FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr
6:59right now and Commissioner what what enforcement actions if any do you either are underway
7:06have been taken or do you think may be taken when when it pertains to
7:10the equal time rule I mean is it's one thing to have a rule it's
7:13another thing to enforce it is there a likelihood that the FCC if people continue
7:18to completely ignore this will do something yeah absolutely look we already have enforcement action
7:25underway with respect to Disney and the view Disney apparently is taking the position that
7:30the view is bonafide news and therefore doesn't have to comply with equal time provisions
7:36we've already taken enforcement action there we've begun our enforcement process and we're going to
7:42see that through to the end and we're going to expect all the broadcasters to
7:46comply with these provisions if they don't like it that's okay they can go to
7:49Congress and try to change it or they can turn in their license they can
7:52simply broadcast this content over a streaming service or a cable channel because those are
7:58not subject to this requirements just broadcast TV and radio but we're going to insist
8:02on people complying with the law as passed by Congress again broadcast is just fundamentally
8:08different than any other means of distribution of programming and I get the people don't
8:13understand that because you just see a screen and you don't know that it is
8:16cable is it streaming is it broadcast can you actually I think not to interrupt
8:20you commissioner but I think this important people what what does fall you've mentioned this
8:24but what and why do certain things fall under FCC rules that uh and you
8:31mentioned cable for example does not what is that distinction where does that come from
8:35I just think that's important background for people to have it really is so in
8:40order to broadcast that means you're using the public airwaves that's a a finite natural
8:47resource and you get a license by the government to use a particular channel when
8:52the government gives you a license they're necessarily excluding other people from having the ability
8:59to use that spectrum for their own viewpoint so if you are on a podcast
9:03or a cable channel or a soapbox the government isn't excluding anybody everybody has a
9:08right basically to stand up a business and do that and so when you're on
9:12a podcast all you have to look out for is your own viewpoints your own
9:16partisan politics whatever you want but if you have a license the government says you
9:20must stand in the shoes effectively of people that were denied that microphone and so
9:26you have an obligation to operate with what we call is in the public interest
9:29not in some narrow partisan interest which would be perfectly fine on a cable program
9:35or a streaming service for podcast but broadcast is a license by the government it
9:39means we've excluded other people and it means you have to operate as sort of
9:42a public trust model that's the bargain that you that you agree to to get
9:47free access to this valuable public resources of the airwaves i don't even have cable
9:52tv commissioner so i'm i'm kind of out of uh the loop on some of
9:57these things but on when it comes to broadcast television are a lot of people
10:02isn't that like what how remember the old tvs they had the the the uh
10:07antlers the antennas uh on top and and that would are people watching cbs via
10:13the broadcast or is it digital how does that work just the technology of it
10:17i'm curious about there's a small percentage of people that still get their broadcast tv
10:22as he would say over the air through the old rabbit ears that we used
10:26to have to tune when we were kids but a lot of people get it
10:29obviously through their cable service as well and the rules and regulations effectively apply to
10:33broadcast over cable to the extent that that cable channel is the same programming that
10:39you would get over the air but it also highlights why i think it's important
10:43to enforce these rules which is there are so many other different ways of getting
10:46programming out there so if you don't want these rules and requirements go to cable
10:50go to streaming go to youtube But if you want to distribute to this one
10:54particular unique medium, then you've got to comply with the rules and regulations that apply
10:58to it. And again, over the years, the FCC had simply walked away from enforcing
11:03that. And I don't think we're better off for that.
11:06Can I honestly ask, would it fall under your remit at the FCC, these spam
11:13texters? Can you fix this, Commissioner?
11:16This is something like, you know, go ahead.
11:19We are working on this.
11:20Most of the coverage of the FCC has to do with our media regulation policy
11:23because we like to talk about the media.
11:26But we have a really significant work stream going on what we call illegal robocalls.
11:31And we're tapping the issue at every single portion of the life cycle.
11:34We're making it harder for bad actors to get phone numbers.
11:37We're making it really harder for foreign call centers to deliver traffic here, even legitimate
11:42foreign call centers. Like United has a call center in Guatemala.
11:46We are looking at additional regulations to compel them to disclose that this is a
11:51call center outside the U .S., not one inside the U .S.
11:55And so we're doing a lot of work.
11:57It's not just us. It's FTC.
11:58It's state attorney generals. We're all working to try to crack down on this robocall
12:03problem. We're making some progress, but obviously we're, you know, a ways off from mission
12:06accomplished on that. Well, it's just good to know someone's on it because it drives
12:10me. And I think a lot of people listening with us right now drives them
12:14nuts. And it's so it's such a time waster.
12:17It also opens the door to a lot of elder fraud because people just assume
12:22I got a call. A number showed up.
12:25You know, the person sounds nice and legitimate and they're actually from, you know, my
12:30whatever company or my credit card company.
12:32And, of course, you know, turns out that it's a scam.
12:34So cutting down on this, I just think, across the board, by the way, I
12:39think that's probably like a 95.
12:41There aren't that many issues in politics, but I think cutting down on spam calls
12:45at any end, you know, you know, robocalls is a way to make the FCC
12:49very, very popular. Yeah, you're right.
12:52And we're going to be continuing to ramp up our efforts here because we're seeing
12:56increasingly, to your point, elder fraud where people are impersonating banks.
13:00You see it with direct messages to people through Facebook.
13:03They either claim to be businesses or people.
13:05It is a rampant vector right now for fraud.
13:08I think almost everybody either has, you know, a parent or a friend or a
13:11neighbor that's been victimized through, you know, these impersonation calls or Facebook DMs.
13:17I do think you're going to see us continue to ramp up our effort to
13:20crack down on that. FCC Commissioner Carr, appreciate you really explaining in detail what's going
13:27on here, setting the record straight.
13:28And please come back anytime.
13:31Yeah, appreciate it. Good to be with you.
13:33We're just talking about elder fraud using text messages and using these different things that
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16:04Wanted to thank you all for carrying on after Rush.
16:07Back in 2021, I lost two of the most important people in my life, Rush
16:13Limbaugh and my mother. So thank you all for carrying on and take care.
16:18Well, David in Tennessee. See, thank you so much for listening and condolences on your
16:23losses there. And, yes, we all lost Rush five years ago yesterday, a voice that
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16:34Also, I just can't give a better answer than this.
16:37Whenever someone asks me, they say, how did you know you wanted to do talk
16:41radio and how did you learn how to do talk radio?
16:43And the answer, the real answer is just listening to Rush.
16:46It's how I learned. And it's how I know or how I knew that I
16:50wanted to do it. So there was, yeah, it was, that's when someone has had
16:55that profound effect on your life as I sit here now doing radio for a
16:58living, yeah, of course, you think back to it.
17:01And the team, by the way, that is with us here that pulled together a
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17:50Now we have, like I said, we have Chip Roy coming up in the third
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19:27My friends, Manufacturing Delusion. A book about mind control that takes into account the most
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20:06to believe insane things that they will take action on.
20:10That is what Manufacturing Delusion is about.
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20:37The book is doing well so far.
20:39I'm very sanguine about these things.
20:42You know, there's probably some, you know, some children's book about like a non -binary
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20:52The point is, for a political book, it's doing well.
20:55Well, and we have to beat Meacham's book because he's a smug lib who trashes
20:59Trump on MSNBC. And there's a chapter in the book, though, where I get into
21:05what I was talking about yesterday a bit, which is menticide.
21:09And menticide is obviously a killing of the brain, coined by Just Mirlu, who was
21:16a psychiatrist and in the Second World War worked at, well, really debriefed Nazi prisoners
21:23of war and came to understand very much the Nazi.
21:27He did counterpropaganda for the Allies.
21:30Mirlu was a, he was Dutch, and then as part of that was debriefing Nazis
21:36and learned about their propaganda efforts.
21:38But he came up with menticide, mental annihilation, the murder of the mind, and the
21:44ways that you achieve this.
21:45And confusion and degradation, again, are the...
21:47Twin pillars, if you're going to simplify it down, confusion and degradation are essential.
21:53Now, there are a lot of ways to confuse people with a lot of ways
21:55to degrade people. You can confuse people by putting them in extreme isolation and bombarding
22:04them with noise, music, sounds.
22:08There's all these different things that you can do.
22:10Or you can just be in a society where you're constantly bombarded with lies.
22:15Firehose of Falsehood, it is called.
22:17It's actually a term taken from a RAND study on this.
22:21And these are the ways that you can get people to believe crazy things.
22:26And it's not quite Pavlov's dogs, which we start out with.
22:29And Pavlov wasn't working on brainwashing.
22:32He was working on the brain -body connection.
22:35What can your brain process, whether it's sight, sound, what does your brain process in
22:43that way that then has actual physiological effect?
22:46And this is where we get the salivary reflex of dogs that had come to
22:51associate a metronome or a buzzer, not a bell, with feeding time.
22:58And unfortunately, if you're a dog lover, you'll find out that Pavlov was quite rough
23:03with some of the dogs.
23:04Some of the animal, let's just say that there was no PETA.
23:09I won't get into this, but the point is, he was very much interested in
23:15the digestion of dogs. And this was all to understand better how this works in
23:21the higher order creatures, human beings.
23:25But it turns out that even though there were some lessons from it, it's also
23:29really complicated. Some dogs are, as anyone knows, now he wasn't training dogs.
23:35Pavlov would have never said he was training dogs.
23:37He was exploring this brain -body connection.
23:40And this is when nobody else really was doing this, so it was revolutionary work
23:44at the time. He was doing this, of course, before we knew what DNA was.
23:47He was doing this before the rise of widespread antibiotics.
23:50I mean, this was early, it was really turn of the 20th century and then
23:55the early 1920s, 1930s, when he was doing a lot of this work.
24:00And what you find is that each individual animal, again, working with dogs here, had
24:08its own circuitry. And so some of them were much easier to get certain training
24:17through to or certain reflexes.
24:19It was actually conditional reflex in the original Russian.
24:23It wasn't just, you know, we think of this as like Pavlov and conditioning and
24:26conditioned reflex. It was conditional reflex.
24:31And that's what he was looking at, the reflex of the brain into the body
24:34and how these things affect each other.
24:36So that was a revolutionary, as I said, revolutionary scientific discovery at the time.
24:41But always there was this, well, hold on, it works better with some dogs than
24:45others because they're not machines, just like we're not machines.
24:48We actually aren't machines. And our circuitry, our underlying biochemistry, our soul, these things take
24:57us out of the realm of science into something else, right?
24:59It's something that can't yet be fully understood by charts and tables and data and
25:03beakers and Bunsen burners and all of this.
25:08Now, that's worth noting because for each and every one of us, there's going to
25:14be different approaches that we have to be particularly mindful of and different things that
25:18will work on us. And we are in a society now that we are more
25:23bombarded with information than any other era of the human species by far.
25:32It is not even close.
25:33And you know this is true.
25:35We carry around in our, I carry more knowledge with my smartphone or at least
25:41access to more knowledge than existed in the, you know, the great library of Alexandria.
25:45I mean, there's, there's just, it's endless, but also because particularly of social media, there's
25:52a feeding and refeeding into the system and we have to become aware of how
25:57this is affecting our circuitry.
25:59Again, we use the, when we talk about ourselves, we use the language of, of
26:04electronics and robotics. But of course, as I said, there's something different about us too.
26:08And even Pavlov noted that there's something that you can't just account for with experiments,
26:15charts and tables. We are all different.
26:17We're all unique. You might even say we're all created in God's image.
26:20And therefore there's something very special and unable to be charted on a graph about
26:28each and every one of us.
26:29But this is where I turn to how is it that we became a society
26:36with more knowledge, more advanced knowledge than anyone else before us, with discoveries and, and
26:44with computation and analysis, truly unfathomable, even, I don't know, a hundred years before, even
26:52in the time of the year, certainly the earlier days of Pavlov's research.
26:56And yet we are a society that has allowed children to have genital mutilation surgery
27:02in the furtherance of a mass hysteria, which is this transgender stuff, something that is
27:10increasingly, and this is also why you'll note, it is getting more desperate and more
27:15violent. as an ideology, and as it more clearly fails in every respect, which is
27:22often the case, right? People can become most dangerous when they feel they're cornered and
27:27they have nothing to lose.
27:28This ideology, this transgenderism that became a true culture, really a sort of mind virus
27:38that was spreading very rapidly, and it occurred in the 21st century overwhelmingly, and really
27:44in the last 10 to 15 years is when this gained tremendous momentum.
27:50We're now seeing the pushback against this, a pushback against this mass hysteria, but I
27:55think that the way that we were able to get there, oh, the news story
27:58I should tell you, the breaking news on this is that NYU Langone hospital system
28:03has said that because of the current regulatory environment, it will discontinue its gender medicine
28:11program for minors. This is a massive step forward.
28:20This goes to show you that just a few years ago there were people who
28:23were saying it's never going to change, this is here to stay.
28:27There was a sense, even among people I think who recognized how wrong this was,
28:33there was a sense that this could be with us forever because the medical associations
28:41and big medicine and the hospitals and all this were pushing this and believed that
28:47somehow this was giving people care, and now this is something that I think is
28:57going very clearly in the other direction.
28:59Here you go. This is someone in an interview, the Manhattan Borough President, Brad Hoylman
29:06-Siegel, it's the Manhattan Borough President, not a doctor, said it was his understanding NYU
29:11Langone would no longer provide hormone treatment and other gender -related care to transgender youth.
29:16Mr. Hoylman -Siegel said he was worried that some of NYU Langone's transgender patients would
29:21struggle to find doctors willing to continue their care.
29:24I'm horrified at the consequences.
29:26It's crucial they find alternative care.
29:28They deserve care. They should get care.
29:31Psychiatric care. You are not a woman because you think you're a woman.
29:36That is not reality. That is not real.
29:38You can never become a woman.
29:40There is no surgery that can effectuate that.
29:43It is not reality. And that medicine entered the...
29:48And you know I'm right.
29:49You know, as I say those words, what I am saying is true.
29:52And the other side cannot defeat that truth.
29:57Everything they say is an obfuscation or an evasion or an emotional manipulation.
30:03But the fundamental truth that you cannot be some other gender, you cannot be the
30:08other because you deem it or wish it or insist on it being so, that
30:16reality is emerging right now in a way that I think is, I hope, going
30:25to continue with a momentum to stop this.
30:27Because at this point, it's just you're saving young people from ruining their lives.
30:31I mean, every day that these systems are shut down or every day that they...
30:36This is horrible, the stuff that they are doing.
30:40And to do this kind of thing under the guise of medicine, it's such a
30:44betrayal of the Hippocratic Oath, such a betrayal of medical ethics.
30:47It's very obvious. And this is why when you start to ask...
30:50People say, how do you fight against the manufacturing of delusions?
30:55When you ask honest questions, you should get answers or honest answers from people who
31:03are trying to push a certain point of view or push a policy.
31:08If all they want to do is shout you down and bully you, there's a
31:12problem. You know you've established something with that.
31:16And for as long as there has been this transgender, really psychological contagion, this phenomenon,
31:24as long as this has been ascendant in this country, it has been clear that
31:28if you ask questions about this, the people who push it don't want to answer
31:33your questions and they want you to shut up or else.
31:38And they will hurt you.
31:39They will hurt your career, as we've seen.
31:41They'll do more than just hurt your career.
31:43There is something, obviously, of the radical in these individuals.
31:49There is a sense that this is not something they're willing to discuss.
31:56Really? What other area of medicine are we not able to have a conversation about?
32:01Hey, what are the long -term prospects for this?
32:03What are the failure rates?
32:04What are the complications? I can ask any doctor in America that about a knee
32:08surgery. And if they're a decent doctor, they'll sit down and they'll talk to me.
32:12But if I want to get – you know how many times I've tried to
32:15get a transgender doctor in the past to come on a show and explain the
32:18procedure and what's possible? It's not – they won't do it.
32:21They won't do it. Why not?
32:24Oh, because, you know, you're mean and you're right wing.
32:26No, I actually really want to know.
32:28I want people to know the reality of this, that NYU Langone is – and
32:33I just – these Democrats, too, are saying, oh, where are they going to get
32:36care? You mean where are teenage girls going to find a doctor that's willing to
32:40surgically remove their breasts because they're going through – And I'll see you next time.
32:42Let's talk to you. about the issues that you want, how are you going to
32:42work with the budget? a psychiatric disorder, hopefully nowhere because it's not going to turn
32:49out well for them. And if it was going to turn out well for them,
32:52by the way, don't you think we would all have the long -term data and
32:54the studies? They just say that we don't have these things.
32:57We don't have these studies.
32:58They do some observational study.
33:00It's just like with COVID.
33:01They just try to smother you with credentialed nonsense and hope that you shut up
33:06and stop asking the obvious questions.
33:09They want you to be a part of the manufactured delusion.
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34:19News and politics, but also a little comic relief.
34:24Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
34:26Find them on the free iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts.
34:31Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
34:33Chip Roy coming up here in a few minutes.
34:34Congressman Chip Roy of Texas talking about the SAVE Act, talking about the government, partial
34:38government shutdown. It'll bring you up to speed on all the politics.
34:42That's what we do here.
34:43That's how we roll. Mr.
34:44Clay, we'll be back with you tomorrow.
34:46Both of us will be back with you tomorrow.
34:48So it'll be a regularly scheduled program with both of us.
34:51And yeah, Vicki in Michigan, you want chat.
34:54Let's go. Vicki in Michigan.
34:57Hello? Yes, you're on the air.
35:00We're all listening. Hey, Vicki, how you doing?
35:02Hi, thank you for having me.
35:03I just wanted to say thank you.
35:05First, I'm a big fan.
35:06I listen to Rush as well.
35:08And I know that it's not a popular view sometimes what you and Clay are
35:12saying. So I just wanted to thank you for standing up against the transgender craze,
35:18the surgeries. I have two close friends whose kids both had surgeries and it just,
35:24it affected them so much.
35:26They're just, it breaks up a family.
35:29So I just, I just wanted to thank you.
35:32And I'm probably going to get your book.
35:34Oh, well, please get the, please probably, please get that book.
35:38Sorry? I said, please get that book.
35:41No, probably go get it.
35:43Thank you, Buck. Thanks so much.
35:46All right. Thanks for calling in.
35:46Um, so, uh, we've also got podcast listener Mark from Tennessee F on the talk
35:52back. Hit it. I finished your book already.
35:57It's fantastic. It reinforces some of the things I've thought about the, the changes in
36:03the definition of words have occurred a lot in my 70 years.
36:08Example vaccine. What you say is so, so true.
36:12Thank you. Shields high. Shields high, Mark.
36:16Thank you. And yeah, I get that's part of the propaganda portion of the book,
36:20which I haven't talked about as much, but that's another part of manipulating your perception
36:24and controlling your mind. Propaganda.
36:27All the military guys listening are like, yeah, you know, information operations.
36:30We know all about this, right?
36:31Opsec, psyops. I'm sorry. Psyops, not opsec.
36:34But, uh, psyops and, uh, psychological operations and controlling language is a big part of
36:41this. Even Orwell noted this.
36:42In fact, news speak, uh, was a term that Orwell popularized.
36:46Oh, you're like, Buck, what?
36:47Get the book, everybody. This is a book that's meant to be read.
36:51It is short. It is readable.
36:53It is punchy. It is packed with information.
36:56You will learn cool stuff from the book.
36:59You will be glad you read it.
37:01I promise you, I would not put some nonsense out there.
37:03You will learn lots of historical fact.
37:06You will learn the tactics of mind control, and you will rip through this book
37:09in a weekend. Get Manufacturing Delusion wherever you get your books back in a moment.
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