Hour 1 - Why Buck Joined the CIA
3/13/202637 mincomplete
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0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome in to Clay Travis, Buck Sexton's show, both from Florida.
0:10Although opposite ends of the state, I am on the panhandle.
0:14Buck is down in South Florida as spring break 2026 arrives in the Travis household.
0:21Pray for me. I'm going to have a bunch of 18 -year -olds, my son
0:26and several of his friends, down for spring break with Dad as chaperone.
0:31So we will see how that goes.
0:33But that is officially underway.
0:37And we've got a lot to update you on.
0:39Yet another early morning press conference from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth laying out all
0:45the particulars that is dominating discussion as we begin the day here on the Friday
0:52edition of the program. We're going to go out to California at the top of
0:57the next hour just to give you a heads up.
0:59The primary in California is getting closer and closer.
1:02Steve Hilton, Republican candidate there.
1:04The top two advance regardless of party.
1:07We will discuss all of that and what is a free -for -all absolute Donnybrook
1:12that has broken out in California.
1:14What is the latest there on who might be the next governor to replace Gavin
1:18Newsom. But, Buck, I think we begin where we basically ended yesterday's show with the
1:25news coming of it officially, as we told you it was likely to be, having
1:30been yet another terror attack.
1:33Two different terror attacks happening yesterday.
1:36One in Virginia at Old Dominion.
1:38We'll get into some of the details there.
1:40Brave, ROTC students were able to disarm and kill the would -be terrorist with their
1:50bare hands. And that is pretty remarkable.
1:53We will talk about it.
1:55One loss of life there.
1:57We will certainly honor that loss of life as well.
2:01In West Bloomfield, Michigan, just outside of Detroit, a clear attempted terror attack, a good
2:08guy with a gun ended it and took and killed the life of the would
2:13-be terrorist. But, Buck, coming on the heels of Austin, Texas, where a guy in
2:19an Iran shirt and a pro -Islam sweatshirt on top of that killed two innocent
2:25people and wounded several others.
2:27You then have the situation in New York City where two would -be ISIS sympathizers
2:34tried to throw IEDs outside of Gracie Mansion in New York City, which fortunately did
2:40not go off. And now we are sitting here with Austin, Texas, New York City,
2:47Old Dominion University in Virginia, and just outside of Detroit in Michigan, four different Muslim
2:54fundamentalist -motivated terror attacks in the space of about two weeks.
2:59It feels unlikely to me that this is the end of it, Buck.
3:04And you joined the CIA some time ago specifically to help catch the bad guys
3:11after 9 -11. So you are particularly well -versed in this.
3:15What is your reaction now that we have what we suggested was likely to be
3:18the case, but now have complete confirmation that all four of these attacks have the
3:24same motive in place as the war in Iran continues?
3:27What would CIA analyst Buck Sexton be doing this morning if he was in Langley?
3:32Well, I think we can count on the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN,
3:37and others to remind us that while all the terrorist attacks that are actually happening
3:42are Islamic radicals, the real threat of terrorism in this country remains white supremacy.
3:49That's the real threat. Which is the focal point of Biden's presidency was arguing the
3:56biggest danger that we all face.
3:57For those of you who have forgotten, he constantly gave us multi -years of that
4:03argument. And I just think that we're one Islamic jihadist, or I guess that's kind
4:09of repetitive because all jihadists are Islamic, but one jihadist terror attack away from some
4:15guy, instead of yelling Allahu Akbar before he hits the plunger on the suicide vest,
4:20maybe he'll scream out, the real terrorist threat is white supremacy.
4:24Kaboom. I just wonder at what point the Democrats will have to reassess the big
4:32white supremacist threat. By the way, per capita is also something that tends to challenge
4:36the left and Democrats tremendously.
4:38They have no understanding of this whatsoever.
4:40They compare the overall threat of Islamic terrorism and the overall threat of white supremacist
4:48terrorism in this country. They also always leave out, there are 5 million, 6 million
4:54Muslims in the country, maybe 7 million, something like that.
4:58I don't even know how many white people there are, 150 million, 180 million, I
5:03don't even know. So the fact that you're even having a conversation about where is
5:07the real threat of, and I just want to be very clear, there are jihadists
5:11who are white. It's actually not about race at all, but the Democrats don't understand
5:14that. Remember the guy who was captured, who was fighting for the Taliban?
5:17That can happen too. Islam is an ideology.
5:19It's not a skin color.
5:20It's not a race. They always try to conflate those things because they know...
5:24The planята who wasiplier withnten children that if they can make it about racism, well,
5:26then everyone's, oh, my gosh, it's not racism.
5:28It's about an ideology, okay?
5:29No one's sitting here saying, you know what the real threat of terrorism is right
5:32now? All the Buddhists in America, oh, my gosh, I'm so scared of them.
5:35It has nothing to do with skin color, it has to do with ideology.
5:38And this is exactly what you would expect after, remember, it's not just American strikes
5:43on Iran. It is American -Israeli strikes, American -slash -and -Israeli strikes on Iran.
5:50And so the fact that Israel is just blowing up Iranian stuff left and right,
5:55too, that really sets off the jihadi community.
6:00And looking at the Iran situation, Clay, today, I know Hegseth talked about it.
6:05We have some more. Well, you know what, here, let's have, here is Secretary of
6:09War, this is cut one, the not -so -supreme leader, he says, of Mojtaba, Lil
6:14Mo, as Clay calls it.
6:16This is cut one, play it.
6:17Iran's leadership is in no better shape.
6:19Desperate and hiding, they've gone underground, cowering.
6:22That's what rats do. We know the new so -called not -so -supreme leader is
6:27wounded and likely disfigured. He put out a statement yesterday, a weak one, actually, but
6:33there was no voice and there was no video.
6:35It was a written statement.
6:37He called for unity, apparently killing tens of thousands of protesters is his kind of
6:41unity. Iran has plenty of cameras and plenty of voice recorders.
6:45It's why a written statement.
6:46I think you know why.
6:48His father, dead. He's scared.
6:50He's injured. He's on the run and he lacks legitimacy.
6:52It's a mess for them.
6:54Who's in charge? Iran may not even know.
7:00Now, this is on the good side of things, Clay, that we're just, there's no
7:04military counterpunch from Iran whatsoever.
7:08The concerning side of this, or the side of this I think everybody needs to
7:12understand as well, the Iranians, he said this, the Iranian leadership now, they're fully hiding
7:17under, in bunkers, and they're not meeting in any kind of consolidated place.
7:23And they're just going to ride this thing out.
7:26And there's no opposition taking to the streets.
7:29So the regime is not changing, everyone.
7:32The regime is not changing.
7:33We just have a defanged, temporarily Iranian regime.
7:37Maybe they'll have a different approach to the next round of negotiations.
7:40But I do not see regime change happening here.
7:43Now, some of you will be, I think, happy with that because it also means
7:44no U .S. boots on the ground and a limited mission, Clay.
7:48I read this morning, getting ready for the show, a couple of different angles that
7:53I thought were super interesting that we could dive into a little bit later in
7:57the program. One, David Boies, who is probably the foremost trial attorney who is a
8:04Democrat in terms of intellectual heft and success in the country.
8:09Whatever you think about his politics, wrote a great editorial in the Wall Street Journal
8:14saying Democrats need to stop reflexively being opposed to President Trump, that it's actually a
8:20really good thing that we went into Iran.
8:23And he lays out a very strong argument, I thought, and I was impressed that
8:28he did it. Did you see this?
8:30Because I do think it's a little bit of an interesting shift.
8:33Interesting shift. I think you have more respect for Boies because of his lawyer success
8:39than I tend to, given that he served as a board member and counsel for
8:44Theranos, the fraudulent blood testing company, and basically threatened to go after Wall Street Journal
8:51reporters who were trying to unearth that Theranos was a giant fraud.
8:55So he got taken in by that whole thing, I guess.
8:59But everybody did, it seems.
9:01If you go read that book, Bad Blood, it's one of the best books that's
9:04been written in a long time.
9:05But remember, Boies is like the bad guy who shows up in the Wall Street
9:08Journal's offices and is like, everything Theranos did is on the up and up.
9:12We're going to go after you.
9:14So I'm just saying, Clay.
9:15To be fair. To be fair.
9:16You're being very nice about this guy.
9:17That's a pretty sketchy deal.
9:19I would want the most zealous advocate possible, and I think that's what he sees
9:23his role as. This is Lawyer Clay.
9:25This is Lawyer Clay. Look, you could represent the head of the mob, and Clay's
9:29like, hey, everybody needs counsel.
9:31Hey. Everybody needs, hey. In fact, there's news that's just gone out.
9:36I put my money where my mouth is.
9:39Laura and I have made a big donation to Vanderbilt Law School that is predicated
9:44on the idea that every different perspective, because a lot of conservative perspectives are ridiculed
9:50in the law right now, should be taught in law school.
9:53And that lots of people who are military should have the ability, when they finish
9:59their service, to go get a law degree.
10:01So we're putting our money where our mouth is on this so that we have
10:05zealous advocacy. So putting aside that argument, here's something I think that is interesting that
10:10is starting to be floated as well.
10:11Well, the idea that little Mo, that is the son of obviously the Ayatollah who
10:19was killed, that actually we are negotiating with different elements of Iran that are more
10:26moderate. I'm curious if you would buy this.
10:29And inside of Iran, they are using this guy who may not even be able
10:33to speak based on the significant injuries that have occurred to him.
10:36And Hegseth laid out, they didn't put a video, they didn't even have audio of
10:41his statement that they released yesterday, that they are using him as a figurehead to
10:47make it seem like the revolutionary elements of Iran.
10:52are still in a position of strength, but that in reality there are back -channel
10:57negotiations going on and we might be setting up some form of relationship there.
11:03Do you buy it? Does CIA analyst Buck buy this guy's son being the figurehead
11:08who's incapable of communication and very few people know it, and there are other individuals
11:13who now have risen to power that are interacting with the U .S.?
11:16That is one theory that is out there.
11:19I hope that's true. I would bet a large sum of money that that ends
11:22up not being the case.
11:23I think, unfortunately, we've done everything that can be done from the sky, and there's
11:28a hard red line on boots on the ground, and I think it's the right
11:32red line, to be clear.
11:33I agree with that red line, and there's a limit to what you can do
11:37from the air. And the Iranians have no—now, they got sucker -punched a bit on
11:42this. They were not, obviously, putting all their leadership together.
11:46They didn't expect that we would hit them when we did.
11:49They didn't expect to get hit in daylight.
11:50They didn't expect all of this.
11:52So that was pretty incredible, and they didn't know that we knew so much about
11:56where they would be. That all said, though, these are the limitations of what you
12:03can do when you don't control the ground, and we don't control the ground, and
12:07the IRGC is still the security apparatus in that country, and nobody wants to be
12:13the first one to poke their head out their door and be like, you know,
12:15maybe we could do something different here because your head's not going to stay on
12:18your shoulders. That's the concern.
12:19The other suggestion that I have seen is that we should take the island with
12:25boots on the ground, Delta Force style, where they actually produce all the oil and
12:30just take control of their ability to produce oil because this is kind of crazy.
12:35Iran is continuing to produce oil and produce it.
12:39You're talking about grabbing Karg Island?
12:41I mean, that's some pretty next -level stuff if we were to do it.
12:43That is—I was doing all my reading, Buck.
12:45I was trying to prepare myself, like, what are the different angles of— You're going
12:49deep onto this one. Well, I'm fascinated by it.
12:51I don't have the background of knowledge that you do, so I'm trying to read
12:55as much as I can, and there's an idea out there that Israeli and U
12:59.S. special forces could seize the island of oil production and basically end any ability
13:06of Iran to have control over the ingress or egress of oil, not dissimilar in
13:13some ways to what we did with Venezuela, but just take control of this island
13:18and say, hey, we now are the captain of the Iranian oil ship, and we
13:24determine everything. Because it's kind of crazy to me, Buck.
13:27I didn't realize Iran has continued to refine and be shipping oil even as we
13:33have been attacking them. I think that would surprise a lot of people.
13:37I mean, Karg Island is essentially where all of the processing of oil— Remember, there's—you'll
13:44hear these things, and I know that some of you listening to this are like,
13:46I've been an oil man for 40 years, Buck.
13:48You know a lot more than me, and sorry.
13:50I'm just assuming the oil men are in Texas.
13:52Pardon me. But I know there's other places.
13:55But, you know, there's some of you that know this stuff backwards and forwards.
13:57But when you hear things like heavy crude and sweet crude and all this different
14:00stuff, it has to be refined for it to be usable in the marketplace, right?
14:05It's not just like it pumps out of the ground and it goes right into
14:07a car, and 90 % of Iranian oil is processed at Karg Island.
14:15And you're talking about almost a billion barrels of oil a year there, right?
14:19So if you are—you don't have to stop the oil from being pumped out of
14:22the ground, nor do you have to touch the oil infrastructure that does that, which
14:26would be a very, very bad idea, to have essentially a total choke point for
14:31Iranian oil exports, because if they can't refine it, they ain't selling it.
14:36This is why— At least not the same way.
14:38A hundred percent. And this is why I think, in addition to not wanting to
14:41give away strategic operational goals, this is why boots on the ground doesn't necessarily mean
14:47tens of thousands of troops.
14:49It could mean, not only on this Karg Island, but also on some of the
14:54nuclear mountainous terrain that you might have to go into, it could mean elite commando
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16:20And, Buck, I want to hit this talkback fast because it ties into our next
16:24news story we're going to be discussing here.
16:26And it's from Charlie in Greenwich Village.
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16:48God bless you guys, too.
16:49Take care. Hey, Charlie. Charlie, God bless.
16:52Thanks for listening to us behind liberal lines there at NYC.
16:55Let me say this, Clay.
16:56So he's referring to this mass shooter at Old Dominion, also a jihadist, a convicted
17:02terror supporter, who got let out early.
17:05Good Lord. He walked into a classroom at Old Dominion, said, is this ROTC?
17:12And when someone said yes, he just pulled out a gun and started shooting.
17:16One of the ROTC students had a blade and ended this guy right there.
17:21Just took him out. Now, I mean, first of all, Clay pointed this out.
17:27Obviously, he was targeting ROTC because he thinks that he's going after, like, our military
17:31in a way, which, you know, this is a terrorist attack in a classroom.
17:37But beyond that, this is a guy who underestimated who he was dealing with.
17:44He picked the wrong dudes to F around with, I think, in basic parlance.
17:49And we should, when we come back, honor, because one loss of life, I believe
17:54he was a major in charge of ROTC in Old Dominion, lost his life.
17:59And we should make sure that we honor him.
18:01But I think it speaks to the bravery of these young men and women, I
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18:58Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show, Friday edition of the program.
19:02We were just talking about the terror attack at Old Dominion University in Virginia.
19:07And we mentioned that the ROTC students apprehended, killed, and disarmed this individual with their
19:16bare hands during the attack.
19:18Unfortunately, one life was lost, and I want to make sure that I read this
19:24correctly. The victim of the terror attack at Old Dominion, this is according to Greg
19:29Price, who does good work on social media, has been identified as Lieutenant Colonel Brandon
19:35Shaw, who was a professor of military science and the leader of the university's ROTC
19:41program. He was a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and Atlantic Resolve.
19:49His awards included two Bronze Stars, Senior Army Aviator Badge, Combat Action Badge, Parachutist Badge,
19:56Air Assault Badge, Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal with Valor, Joint
20:03Service Commendation Medal, Army Commendation Medal, and the Joint Service Achievement Medal.
20:09He died on the campus in this attack.
20:13His students disarmed and killed the attacker.
20:18But we want to make sure that we honor the individuals who are victims of
20:24these different terror attacks. Again, Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw.
20:29And if there are people out there listening to us right now that know anything
20:35about him or served with him, it would be great to hear some of your
20:39talkbacks. But, Buck, this is, we were, as we went to break just talking about
20:45this, I think one of the stories here is there is so much innate goodness
20:52in America. America, the attack would be attack on the synagogue in northern Michigan or
20:59just north of Detroit in Oakland County, still southeastern Michigan, but just north of Detroit.
21:05These guys were ready for it.
21:07And they killed the attacker.
21:11This was, I think the number was over 100 kids in a Jewish preschool that
21:16were there that could have been victims, but for the security being there, the only
21:22person who died on that day yesterday was the would -be attacker in basically his
21:29vehicle that he drove in intending to blow up and kill as many people as
21:32possible. Again, everybody needs to stay hypervigilant given what's going on right now.
21:38But I think it's a testament to the bravery of so many people across America
21:42that we have now had four would -be terror attacks, four actual terror attacks.
21:47And I think it's a testament to the bravery of so many people across America
21:47that we have now had I believe there have only been three victims.
21:51Every loss of life is awful.
21:53I believe two people lost their lives in Austin, innocent people at a bar when
21:57a guy started shooting, and now this ROTC leader on Old Dominion's campus.
22:02But no deaths, and these guys were apprehended in New York City.
22:07The brave police officer who we talked about who jumped over the barricade and went
22:11and tackled them immediately and got them arrested.
22:14The brave security officials at the synagogue who killed this would -be terrorist.
22:20I mean, to have, I think it's five different terrorists, if I'm not mistaken, who
22:25have attempted to take as many lives as possible.
22:28And for them to only get three lives and for the bravery of responders to
22:33immediately take them out, I think is a testament to security officials and also just
22:39the bravery of first responders and everybody out there in America right now.
22:43But unfortunately, I know you're looking and thinking about this quite a lot based on
22:46your background. It seems unlikely this is going to be the end, and so more
22:51are coming. No, it's not the end, and they tend to hold grudges in the
22:58jihadist world. So it's not like even if the air campaign stops tomorrow, which I
23:03don't think it will, they would say, okay, we're going to leave things alone now
23:08and move on with our lives.
23:09I would just second what you said, Clay, about the security at that synagogue in
23:14Michigan. Think about this. Probably saved, I don't know, dozens of lives by being armed,
23:24present, and ready to go.
23:26I understand the bomb didn't go off that this guy had in his car, but
23:30he was prepared for that possibility, and he also had, I believe, a rifle and
23:35was ready to start shooting people.
23:37And if you're in a synagogue and you don't have armed security, even if you
23:42rush a shooter like this, a lot of lives are going to be lost in
23:46that process. And instead, no innocent life was lost in the process.
23:51It's just a reminder, the good guy with a gun thing that Democrats still sneer
23:57at. They don't really ever want to look at what actually works, what actually keeps
24:02people safe. I mean, I got to tell you, even here in Miami, I'll see
24:07sometimes like a venue or a place, and they'll say, you know, no weapons allowed.
24:13And I just want to be like, you know, you're just disarming the good guys.
24:18Yeah. You're just saying, in a state where we have very pro -2A laws, thankfully,
24:25Florida's great on this. New York City is preposterous.
24:29New York City is just one big violation of the Second Amendment.
24:32But you look at Florida, Florida's great, but you go to private venues, you know,
24:36for concerts, things like that, and they'll have no weapon signs.
24:40And now you've got to think, okay, I'm going to be in violation of law
24:44if I care. What is the point of that?
24:47If someone, whether they're a gang member or a terrorist, wants to hurt people, they're
24:53carrying the gun no matter what.
24:55You know, I just, I don't know how many times we have to go through
24:58this. You know, Virginia is currently looking at legislation to create some kind of a
25:03ban. You know, they're going to have some specifics in it, but essentially an assault
25:07rifle ban. In Virginia! Yeah.
25:10After moderate Spamburger fooled enough Virginia soccer moms that she was able to, and, you
25:17know, dads, that she was able to win the election.
25:20And you sit here and you just go, when will the lesson be learned?
25:23When do they figure out that their little rules and their little, you know, their
25:28pearl clutching over people who like to go shooting on the weekends, who are law
25:31-abiding Second Amendment people, they're wrong.
25:34They're just wrong on this issue.
25:35If we had listened to them and not had armed security at the synagogue, you
25:41know, God knows what would have happened there.
25:43Yeah. And, again, you're really just notifying the bad guys where they should go.
25:49When you say gun -free zones, you're just telling them, hey, this is an opportunity
25:55to go after people who are predominantly not going to be able to defend themselves.
26:00And this is why, look, I hope what happened at the synagogue, I hope it's
26:04a lesson to every school and every religious institution in America.
26:09I would prefer that there be armed security everywhere.
26:12My kids go to schools with a lot of armed security.
26:15I want everybody's kids going to schools with a lot of armed security.
26:20Public school and private school, by the way.
26:22And in Tennessee, where I am, I feel very fortunate when I drop my kids
26:27off and I see the security guard strapped.
26:31And I think most of you out there listening right now feel the same way.
26:35Here's the other thing. It also is important.
26:38For instance, one of my kids is in elementary school right now.
26:41When you have an officer in the school, young kids learn that they can trust
26:46police and that police are there to help them, which they might not hear at
26:50home. And so having a school resource officer who is there, who is armed, who
26:55is there to make sure that the kids are all safe, it's an important lesson.
26:59I hope that they never have to use their weapon ever.
27:02But it's an important lesson for young kids to begin to understand that police are
27:07not bad guys. And unfortunately, there's lots of people out there who will try to
27:10teach them that police are bad guys.
27:13You know, the estimates are that it would be...
27:15maybe $10 billion to have armed security at least available in every school in America.
27:25$10 billion. I mean, that's like a roundy error.
27:30How many fake Somali daycares is that?
27:33Not that many. You know what I'm saying?
27:35I mean, how many fake autism centers in California, which we're going to talk about
27:40that later, by the way, just people ripping off the system with fraud?
27:44Yes. $10 billion to keep schools safe?
27:48And people say, oh, but sometimes they'll shoot the security guard.
27:51Okay, nothing is perfect, everyone, but, you know, wouldn't you rather them have to shoot
27:56the security guard first than immediately go to kids and teachers?
28:00You know what's really imperfect?
28:01Making me wait five days.
28:02Well, if you have your concealed carry, you can actually.
28:05But, you know, making people wait five days, and I'm still waiting for my concealed
28:09carry permit to arrive, actually.
28:10I've already applied for it.
28:11Before I can go get my, like, ninth gun or whatever.
28:14Oh, that's keeping people. Make me wait five days before I can get my latest
28:18range, my latest range gun, you know?
28:21Like, this is idiot rules.
28:23These are idiotic rules. And people still push them.
28:26So, like, guns are scary.
28:27They go bang. Bang is loud.
28:29Loud is scary. They know nothing.
28:32You know what I've also been seeing, and I want to encourage this.
28:36Carol Markowitz is a friend of the program.
28:38She's part of the Clay and Buck podcast network.
28:40She's learned how to use a gun.
28:41My wife now goes to the range once a week.
28:45I bet Laura's kind of nasty with a pistol.
28:47She is very talented with a weapon.
28:51But I've been amazed at how many women I now meet who you wouldn't expect
28:57to be very adept at weaponry that are aware that danger is out there, and
29:04they want to be able to take care of their families.
29:06And I think the number of guns has skyrocketed, right?
29:12This is the real impact of trying to regulate guns, is every time Democrats try
29:17to regulate guns, it's the greatest advertisement for guns that has ever existed.
29:21Everybody out there understands what I'm talking about.
29:23As soon as there is the hint of gun regulation, millions more guns get sold
29:28almost overnight. And the amount of guns in good hands has skyrocketed, I would say,
29:37since you've seen it, Buck, since 2020, where people just thought that they were never
29:42going to be in danger, and they've seen crime, and they say, I'm not risking
29:45or relying on somebody getting to me.
29:47I'm going to take care of my family.
29:48The same way that Mayor Mamdani is currently Florida real estate salesman of the year,
29:55Barack Obama was actually national firearms salesman of, like, the decade.
30:03Because every time they would try to, you know, browbeat us and shout at us
30:07and say, give up all your AR -15s and give up all your...
30:10People would just go out and get more.
30:11Yes. Because they're like, well, I'm going to get grandfathered in now.
30:16That's totally right. And, by the way, if you want to go to data, we've
30:19got more guns in America than we ever have.
30:21Crime is overall going down substantially.
30:23Substantially, the lowest in 125 years when it comes to murder, based on the data
30:28from 2025. And you know this.
30:31I think it should be screamed from the heavens more loudly.
30:35If you have a legal permit to own a gun, your rate of criminal violation
30:40is infinitely lower than the average American is.
30:44Gun owners are the most law -abiding community on the planet.
30:48And, again, that's a data set that isn't very well known, but I think is
30:52consequential and significant. What you're referring to is CCW holders have fewer infractions of law
30:58per capita than law enforcement.
31:01Which is really saying something.
31:02That's even crazier, right? I mean, because you're talking about...
31:07It is evidence that should be within the public discourse on a level that it
31:12is not. We'll take some of your calls, we'll take some of your talkbacks, and
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32:39Have to update you on something as we're talking about the Iran situation.
32:43Confirmed now, a tragedy in Iraq.
32:47Six service members are dead after a U .S.
32:51Air Force refueler. A KC -135 tanker was involved in an accident with another KC
32:59-135. So this is, look, anytime you're talking about military aviation, especially military aviation, doing
33:07mid -air refuels, there is danger.
33:10And we had six brave service members who gave their lives, gave their lives for
33:16their country, gave their lives for the fight.
33:20And we honor them, we honor their families, and we pray for them and their
33:25souls. I just wanted to note, this is, yes, the Trump administration is showing incredible
33:33ability militarily to attack our enemy Iran and its military.
33:38But there are losses. We are losing people in this fight, too.
33:42We always have to be mindful of that, that every day that this conflict continues,
33:47there are Iranians, civilians, who are losing their lives or in the line of fire,
33:54and also our own service members.
33:56So this is, even at the level this war is being fought, there are costs.
34:00It's not to say that the costs aren't something that the American people are willing
34:06to bear based upon the threat of Iran, but there are costs.
34:10And we should be always keeping that in our mind and, of course, keep the
34:14families of those lost in our prayers.
34:17All right. We have a few guests coming up here.
34:20Steve Hilton will be up next.
34:21Talk to him about California.
34:22He's running for governor there, and Clay keeps pointing out to me that the Democrats
34:28may well end up electing Swalwell.
34:35Swalwell of fang, fang, fame.
34:38There are Democrats I disagree with, and there are Democrats that I'm like, I don't
34:42disagree with this guy, but I can see why he has appeal.
34:46Eric Swalwell is a moron who is incapable of basic, coherent thought.
34:54To your point, Buck, and not even attractive Chinese spy, honeypotted him.
35:00He lives in Washington, D .C.
35:03Evidence is he has an apartment that he claims in some donor's house.
35:07He doesn't even have a California residence right now.
35:10So we've got a huge audience in California.
35:12I am fired up about this.
35:14The idea of Eric Swalwell even making the final two is an insult, I think,
35:20to Californians everywhere. That's where we are.
35:22Dave in Wilmington, North Carolina.
35:24Let's get you in, Dave.
35:25What's up? Rush. You're making Rush proud.
35:28Old Rush listener. Thank you.
35:29So I grew up pre -9 -11.
35:32I was an adult. All four of my kids were born pre -9 -11, but
35:35they weren't old enough to remember this country, the freedoms we had pre -9 -11.
35:41So seeing what happened, 9 -11, and seeing the trillions of dollars this country has
35:47had to spend to defend ourselves from the radical Islam culture.
35:53And then to see the Democrats continually inviting these people in and defending them, now
35:59they're defrauding our country. We're still spending trillions of dollars to protect ourselves from these
36:04people. It's just a very discouraging situation for those of us who grew up in
36:10a country that was so free that we could walk up to the door and
36:13say bye to Grandma when she was getting on the plane.
36:15And now we go through all this crap, and we've got to go even more
36:18because we just keep letting them fester in the Middle East until they can come
36:22up with some scheme to kill Americans.
36:25Dave, thank you for calling in.
36:27As I always say, radical Islam is the reason why you're getting patted down by
36:31the TSA, why you have to arrive two hours early for your flight.
36:34Radical Islam has cost the United States, in just our security state, our security apparatus,
36:40trillions of dollars post -9 -11.
36:43And that's not even including all the attacks they actually pull off successfully.