Normally Podcast: DHS Shutdown Chaos, Airport Meltdowns & “No Kings” Protest Fallout
3/31/202629 mincomplete
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0:13when the news gets weird.
0:14I am Mary Catherine Hamm.
0:16I'm Carol Markowitz. How are you, Mary Catherine?
0:18I'm all right. You know, busy spring weekend.
0:21Lots going on and we're cruising into spring break.
0:25I mean, cruising is definitely one way to describe it.
0:30We had our middle son's bar mitzvah this weekend.
0:32It was a raucous time.
0:35Yes, I can tell. I'm sad we missed it.
0:38I know it was a good party.
0:39Yep, yep. My younger son, I don't know, he's sort of fascinated with you recently.
0:45He's constantly like, is my friend Mary Catherine going to be there?
0:48Like, my friend Mary Catherine.
0:49Hey, you know. So yeah, you got to come to his because you're going to
0:53be in his montage. I have this great picture of you and him at Defara's
0:57when he was a baby.
0:58And you're like looking over at him and smiling.
1:00And that's a classic. 2029.
1:02Be ready. That was the time that I like a VIP stumbled into Defara's pizza
1:07in like four minutes. Yep.
1:10When Dom DeMarco was alive and making the pizza and it would usually be hours
1:15and she just walked in and was like, like, this is hard.
1:18Carol was like, please don't get the idea that this is normal.
1:21This is not normal. Yes.
1:23Yes. It was an auspicious day.
1:25Anyway, you were missed and you should come to his.
1:29So we'll see you in 2029.
1:31Got it. I'm putting it on the calendar.
1:34I have nothing planned for that year.
1:35So here we go. All right.
1:38Well, I'll tell you that my friends who traveled to Florida for the party and
1:43the service had miserable times at the airport.
1:47And a lot of them are, you know, like just normie people who are like,
1:51who did this to our airports?
1:53Why is this happening? And I didn't have time to like really break it down.
1:57So I just sent them a link to our episodes about it being like the
2:01Democrats are refusing to fund the DHS because they want to stop funding for ICE,
2:05which is already funded in the big, beautiful bill.
2:08That's it. Yeah. That's the basics, my friends.
2:10And now to make things more complicated past the basics, they, of course, have come
2:15to a different impasse now.
2:18I will briefly explain. So this started with Democrats in the Senate using their only
2:22minority power to filibuster a deal that would have just funded DHS that had come
2:27out of the House. They were like, no, we don't want to fund DHS because
2:30it funds ICE and Border Patrol.
2:33And there is like a tiny bit of funding for support staff, the exact kind
2:37of federal workers, by the way, that everybody had those signs in their yard for.
2:40But whatever. They don't want to fund those guys now.
2:43So a bunch of TSA workers and a bunch of support staff have been unpaid
2:48for several paychecks now for the second time in six months due to this.
2:53At some point late last week, Senator Thune, who's the head of the GOP in
2:58the Senate, made a deal that passed at like 2 a .m.
3:01on a voice vote in the Senate that would fund everything except for this little
3:08sliver of ICE and Border Patrol that was cut out.
3:11That was the story. It goes back over to the House and the Republicans, had
3:15they passed it in the House, like the funding would have moved forward for TSA.
3:19That didn't happen. Mike Johnson, head of the Republicans in the House, was like, I
3:24don't like this bill. I don't like that you passed it in the middle of
3:27the night. I don't like that it's coming over here when y 'all already have
3:29a bill for us that you could have passed and Thune and the Senate left
3:34town, leaving this with the House.
3:36Now, Scalise, also a GOP leader in the House, Steve Scalise of Louisiana, says that
3:42some of those senators over there are having buyer's remorse because it turns out there's
3:45more than meets the eye to the ICE and Border Patrol funding in this bill
3:49and that some of it may have been cut more than they intended and that
3:53perhaps that won't work. So what the House did, I know, we're getting in the
3:58weeds here, but so you know.
3:59Oh, it's important to understand.
4:00Yeah. The House passed another stopgap measure for eight months, for eight weeks to send
4:07it back over to the Senate and the Senate has to decide if they want
4:10to pass that one. So that's where we are right now.
4:13Right. I thought maybe the problem would be solved by this weekend.
4:16And by the way, stop doing all this on the weekend while Carol and I
4:19got stuff to do. Yeah, we got places to go.
4:21Come on. It's funny because everybody was inconvenient.
4:25So, like, even if you got to the airport four hours in advance ready for
4:30this line and then you got through the security somehow in five minutes, because that
4:33also happened to people, then you have three hours and 55 minutes at the airport.
4:37It's really crazy. And look, the Democrats are all over the place.
4:42So Donald Trump signed an executive order to get funding to the TSA agents.
4:49Now, Democrats online are like, if he could have done this the whole time, why
4:52didn't he? Meanwhile, they're marching with the No Kings protest and they don't want him
4:56to do stuff like this.
4:57To have power. Right. But yet they're like, oh, he should have done this the
5:00whole time. And then other Democrats are saying that they're going to sue him to
5:05not do this because they don't want the TSA agents paid and they want to
5:09continue this. So it's like, what do you guys want?
5:12And U .S. Senator Elisa Slotkin was on Bill Maher and she said, look, the
5:16average person just wants a bad word there to work.
5:20Look, I don't give a blank if you're a Republican, a Democrat and independent, just
5:24live in the zone of practicality and the.
5:26All right. And the far left live in a different universe, which are all really
5:29nice sentiments. But as our friend Guy Benson points out, she voted repeatedly to shut
5:34down DHS for over a month and sustained the shutdown on the literal day of
5:39a homeland terrorist attack in her state.
5:42Like these people are not serious.
5:44It was when the thing passed the Senate this past week, it was at that
5:48point a 42 day shutdown.
5:50And essentially what Democrats have gotten out of that 40 plus day shutdown is a
5:55an unintentional reduction in force of the TSA because a bunch of agents have just
6:01left. Right. Now, remember, like I said, this is the kind of thing reduction in
6:04force is what they've been fighting Donald Trump over the entirety of his presidency.
6:09And now they're like, nah, just let them walk because we're not going to pay
6:13them. There's no process involved.
6:16There's no sorry. They don't seem concerned about it at all.
6:20And I don't know. I'm sort of of the mind that the House probably could
6:26have taken an R win on this by passing it and then doing reconciliation for
6:31whatever else they needed. But if there's other squirrely stuff in there, I want to
6:37be wary of that and sympathetic to that argument.
6:39I mean, there's also the fact that Democrats should pay politically for this, but the
6:43Republicans are just incapable of getting that message out.
6:46Like, I think you and I have done a better job than elected Democrats who
6:51get paid for this kind of thing to explain what is going on and why.
6:56I just think Republicans need to get a lot more serious on messaging.
7:00It's really, really, really important to let the American people know what's going on.
7:06One thing I will say is a bit of a PR coup when you see
7:10it is the ICE agents serving people in the TSA lines.
7:13They are like have been uniformly kind in somewhere like LaGuardia, where I think they
7:20were almost entirely in charge.
7:22That line was moving this weekend like crazy.
7:26And so I think some of that is helpful to piercing the other incorrect ideas
7:33that many people have been given about ICE.
7:36And I have seen reporters repeatedly asking flyers like, how do you feel about this?
7:41Expecting them to be upset.
7:42And they're like, oh, it seems fine to me.
7:44Right. There's actually one flyer specifically, a traveler from your homeland, Carol.
7:48My homeland of Brooklyn. Yep.
7:50That's a perfect answer to this.
7:53Let's play a little bit of his no drama take on the TSA being taken
7:57over by ICE. Oh, they're right there.
7:59All right. They're good to hear the help.
8:01They're not bothering nobody. As long as they can check my bags and get me
8:03on my flight, I'm good to go.
8:06Right. I want to get I want to get to the Bahamas.
8:09I want out of here.
8:10He's just awesome. He just wants to go to the Bahamas.
8:12I feel him. I mean, people are going on vacation.
8:15It's spring break weeks. And again, the Democrats being not held responsible for this in
8:22our media is just a typical travesty of the way the reporting game works.
8:27They're there to protect their team.
8:29And that's what they're doing.
8:30Yeah. Yeah. In other news, our other big stories going on, an update on Iran
8:39is really actually not that much to update.
8:41Iran basically said absolutely not to Trump's proposed peace deal.
8:47And they've been continuing to block the Strait of Hormuz.
8:51They're threatening to fully close the strait if we keep attacking.
8:55Meanwhile, we are moving more potential ground troops into the region.
9:01I still think it's a bluff.
9:03You know what? I hope it's a bluff.
9:06But the thing is, if it continues to be bluff after bluff, then they're going
9:10to catch on to that.
9:11So what I like is that they just don't know what Donald Trump is going
9:15to do. The cover of the Post today was like, Donald Trump will blow up
9:19Iran if they don't stop blocking the Strait of Hormuz.
9:21And it's just, you know, you don't know.
9:23Is he going to do that or is he going to just say, forget it?
9:25You know, this war's over.
9:26It could go any way that Donald Trump wants to go.
9:29Well, yeah, and I think there's some, again, the treatment of this conflict, I do
9:36feel like it's like the old days when I was at CNN and I had
9:39to put everything in context because they would strategically forget everything that happened 15 minutes
9:44before. I'd be like, hey, let's compare this for context to times that similar things
9:49have happened in the past.
9:50They'd be like, no, we don't want to do that.
9:52We just want to freak out over Trump.
9:53And so I do think in a four -week engagement like this, it is important
9:57to contextualize that the operational and strategic victories are very large here and that compared
10:04to something like even Desert Storm, which is hailed as an extremely successful campaign, one
10:11-sided campaign in 1991, there's been fewer aircraft lost by far, fewer troops, I believe,
10:18lost by far. And so those things are important and should be part of the
10:22conversation. And we don't know what Iran will do ultimately and whether the Straits of
10:26Hormuz actions they're taking or the random pot shots they're taking, unfortunately, some of them
10:32damaging to surrounding countries and people who serve or live there.
10:37We don't know whether that's just desperation or if they have something up their sleeve,
10:40but it seems very much like significant damage has been done to the apparatus inside
10:47this really threatening country, which would then possibly give the people of that country at
10:53some point the ability to maybe take the reins in some way and to take
10:58to the streets. And that's what we're hoping for, right?
11:00We're hoping for Iranians to go back to the streets, to rise up and take
11:04power from these mullahs. There's only so much that America and Israel can do.
11:11And obviously the long -term goal has to be for Iran to govern itself.
11:17We're not looking for any kind of, you know, puppet government being installed or anything
11:22like that. It really has to be the Iranian people doing it for themselves.
11:26We will keep you updated as we know more.
11:29That's right. We will. But do keep an eye on defense specialists and war specialists
11:33who actually get into the operational stuff going on here, because I do think that's
11:38important instead of just the risk assessment.
11:42Risks are a part of every war, and it's important to discuss that, but it's
11:44also important to contextualize the actual things that are happening with our very competent military.
11:51That's right. We're going to take a short break and come right back with more
11:55on Normally. All right. We are back on Normally with a pretty heavy subject, so
12:03just be prepared. I do want to talk about the death of Sheridan Gorman, who
12:07was a Loyola University student in Chicago living her life, having a good time.
12:14She's a freshman, 18, shot and killed while she was with a group of friends
12:18at a Rogers Park pier on March 19th.
12:2125 -year -old Jose Medina Medina, the suspect in her death is an illegal immigrant
12:25who the Department of Homeland Security says entered the country in 2023 and was apprehended
12:31and then released into the U .S.
12:32under the Biden administration. tragic death of this young woman.
12:38And as usual, it took days and days for the Democrats in Illinois and in
12:45charge of her city to acknowledge that this horrible thing had happened, much less to
12:51reach out to her family.
12:53And her family has been very straightforward about their thoughts on this, which is, please
13:00don't try to gaslight us and tell us this wasn't preventable.
13:03Don't tell us she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
13:06She was in a place that students hang out all the time.
13:08Don't tell us that she did something wrong.
13:11By the way, one Chicago alderwoman said on video, maybe she startled the migrant who
13:17shot her. I mean, come on.
13:19It is nothing but excuses on behalf of the accused murderer, the cold -blooded murderer,
13:27and then ignoring this poor woman and her family.
13:31Because this is a result of sanctuary city policies and they know it.
13:36Right. And that's the thing.
13:37They can't say anything like this.
13:39They have to continually pretend that every single situation like this is a fluke and
13:44that almost never happens. And even though we keep having problems like this, it's a
13:49continual lie that, oh, this is so super, super, super rare.
13:54And the thing is that, like, we don't get the stories and we don't get
13:59the news because they want to cover it up.
14:01And that leads to another problem that it's not that rare.
14:04And our media is covering up that it's not that rare and is lying to
14:10the people. Well, and as her parents point out, each of these deaths at the
14:16hands of an illegal immigrant, particularly ones who have been arrested several times, this one
14:20was for minor offenses. But this is the thing.
14:22If you don't send the guy home, he gets to escalate.
14:26Right. And he escalated to killing this woman.
14:32Sanctuary cities cause this issue.
14:34And every single one is preventable if you send the person home.
14:38You cannot deny that part of it.
14:41And the Loyola student newspaper in one of the more grotesque displays ever apologized for
14:50calling Jose Medina Medina, an illegal immigrant, which is just a fact about his status.
14:58But their ideological fealty requires them to play defense for this guy, to genuflect to
15:08the terms that are nicest to him.
15:10One of their peers was murdered.
15:14And their concern in the school newspaper is how to be as nice as possible
15:19to the guy who murdered her.
15:20It feels like we're in the upside down.
15:22It's like it's just a ridiculous thing to do.
15:25And it's, you know, like, why be nice to a murderer?
15:30It just makes no sense.
15:31I have to add Governor Pritzker of Illinois basically blamed Donald Trump, said that it
15:37was federal immigration policy gaps, real failures in the system.
15:41But he, you know, interpreted it as he also said it was a leadership problem.
15:46And it sounded like he was talking about Donald Trump.
15:49It just also completely makes no sense that...
15:53You're the leader. Yeah. You're the guy.
15:56We have another Democrat governor who is without perspective on this.
16:02Abigail Spanberger in Virginia was asked about a similar case.
16:06Stephanie Minter, a 41 -year -old mother in Northern Virginia, was murdered at a bus
16:12stop, stabbed by someone who had been arrested 30 times, many of them violent offenses,
16:17and let off because we have a Soros -funded prosecutor.
16:20I'm not... being a right -wing hack.
16:22He just is. He's just one of those guys who decides not to prosecute anyone
16:28for their violent crimes, particularly if they're illegal immigrants, because he doesn't want to flag
16:33anything to ICE. And so this guy had gotten through the system 30 times.
16:37He murders this woman. Abigail Spanberger, our Democratic governor, was asked about this on the
16:42trail by Nick Minock, the only reporter apparently in Virginia.
16:46Here he is catching up with her, and here's her answer to him.
16:51Welcome to Culpepper. Governor, what is your message to Stephanie Minter's family?
16:56What is your message to Stephanie Minter's family and children who have been harmed by
17:00illegal immigrants, Governor? My question would be why, when there was detention and deportation order,
17:06ICE did not deport them.
17:08ICE had him in custody for 700 days, Governor.
17:11And an immigration judge would not allow him to be deported to Sierra Leone.
17:17It's quite a display of ignorance and gaslighting and sociopath behavior.
17:23I just, this is an innocent woman who was murdered by this man.
17:28She doesn't take one second to just say, that's right.
17:33I'm really sad that this constituent in her family suffered this fate.
17:38Right. And I am doing all I can to keep people safe.
17:41Even if that's not true, just say the thing.
17:43And then there's no sentiment of that.
17:46It's just turn it back on Trump and ICE, which is inaccurate because these sanctuary
17:52cities and sanctuary states make it impossible for ICE to deport the people that they've
17:59detained because they won't honor the detainer.
18:01Right, right. I love the blaming ICE for this because you don't, you want ICE
18:06to be over, right? You're in the end ICE camp.
18:09So how could you have it both ways?
18:11Yeah. One more story on this front.
18:14Actually, two more stories on this front real quick, because they've been collecting in my
18:17brain. And I just want to note, in New York City, Alvin Bragg, another famous
18:21prosecutor who amazingly could cobble together some unique legal justification for prosecuting Donald Trump, but
18:30can't figure out how to do this one, which is an illegal immigrant, trans -identifying
18:37person who followed a 14 -year -old young man into a bodega, into the bathroom
18:43in the bodega, sexually assaulted him.
18:45He has pled to that.
18:47But the plea deal is six months.
18:51Yep. I had a column on this in the New York Post.
18:54So he didn't even, he's not even going to serve six months.
18:57He already, he's getting time served.
19:00Right. Time served. And it remains to be seen whether he gets deported.
19:04I mean, he's supposed to be deported, but you know, New York again is, doesn't,
19:08doesn't really run that way.
19:09So we'll see what happens with that.
19:11But it's just like, how, like, how do you hear that somebody raped a child,
19:16you know, in a bodega bathroom and think that six months is okay.
19:20And it's like, oh, they didn't want to put the child through testifying.
19:23And this is what they came up with.
19:25I'm sorry. You can still not put the child through testifying and give this person
19:30six years. You can give them 10 years.
19:33You can give them 15 years.
19:34You could still make a deal.
19:36I don't understand how the deal has to be time served.
19:39It just makes no sense.
19:41One last one. There is a memorial for the slain Ukrainian refugee arena in Charlotte
19:48that has become, quote, a political lightning rod.
19:52Yeah. And Mayor Brett Smiley is now calling for the artworks removal.
19:58And I just want to point out how perverse this is, because in this town
20:05and with Democrats, they tell you what?
20:07They tell you, ride public transportation.
20:09That's really important. They refuse to keep public transportation safe because they will not incarcerate
20:14or deport people for fear of doing it to people of color and undocumented status.
20:20Then they make fun of you if you say you want safe transport because that's
20:24racist. But then an innocent is killed in cold blood on the transport.
20:29And they're like, we're not going to talk about her because that's inconvenient to us.
20:33And then if you paint a mural of said woman, they will come down on
20:39you for painting the mural and honoring her.
20:42Meanwhile, they will put out statements making excuses for the man who killed her.
20:46Like I am. It sounds like I'm making it up, Carol.
20:50Right. Right. I have to add one more that sounds like we're making it up.
20:55Representative Pramila Jayapal from Washington is pushing for, you're not going to believe this, reparations
21:01for illegal immigrants traumatized by ICE.
21:05Like we have to play this clip.
21:07This is so crazy that you have to hear the clip because you won't believe
21:11it otherwise. We also need offensive actions around prosecutions.
21:17We need real accountability because at the end of the day, the people that have
21:21been inflicting this harm need to be prosecuted.
21:25They need to be brought before us and they need to be held account for
21:28the trauma that they have created.
21:30And we are going to have to have some form of reparation for the kids
21:36and the families that have been traumatized through all of this.
21:39So, yeah, that's literally what is going on here.
21:43Yeah. Just a quick correction for myself that Mayor Brett Smiley was in Providence, Rhode
21:47Island, where they were trying to do a.
21:49tribute to this woman, not in Charlotte.
21:51The incident happened in Charlotte.
21:52The mural is in Rhode Island.
21:53I think the Democrats would be held accountable for caring more about illegal immigrants than
21:57Americans, but they're not. They won't be.
22:01And they won't be punished for any of this.
22:04We have to do the punishing at the ballot box.
22:08That's the only way it goes.
22:09That's the only way it happens, because it ain't going to happen in the media.
22:13But people do notice eventually.
22:15And even when they're telling you, no, no, no, we don't care about that more.
22:21I think you do. We're going to take a short break and be right back
22:23with one more segment of Normally.
22:30We are back on Normally, where over the weekend there were no King's protests in
22:36many cities, apparently across all 50 states.
22:39The number is at around 8 million, according to the organizers, which, of course, you
22:45need to take with a giant grain of salt.
22:48There were a lot of people arrested because these rallies are not actually entirely peaceful.
22:55There were somebody was caught graffiting kill your local ICE agent.
23:01That went viral, that video.
23:02I don't know if that person has been arrested yet.
23:05They were in a mask at the time.
23:07And so these protests are going on.
23:10It's obviously a show of anti -Trumpism, which, look, I mean, go ahead, protest all
23:15you want. I never understand how no kings is what they decided on here.
23:21It makes no sense. Like, you know, for all the things that they could have
23:24said about Donald Trump, saying that just is so baffling to me.
23:28Like, he's not a king.
23:30And we're all like, yeah, he's not a king.
23:32Totally. Well, you're actually absolutely right on that.
23:35And they're not against a strong executive as long as he's a D.
23:40That's fine with them. By the way, one person was particularly confused about it.
23:44This is a man who, in this video, has, like, a complete orange face and
23:49a crown on his head.
23:50And then he's asked to contend with why Kamala was anointed as maybe a king
23:56might be. Here he is.
23:57Would you like J .D.
23:58Vance to be the president?
23:59No, I would not. Okay.
24:00Yeah, I would not. Okay.
24:02Who would you like to be the president?
24:03Um, Kamala Harris right now, but she didn't win.
24:06But, um, can I point out something that we say no kings and no authoritarianism,
24:11but Kamala Harris, no one voted for her.
24:14Um, yes, they did. Half the country voted for her.
24:16So no one was voted for her to be the nominee.
24:19Yes, they did. Isn't that what, like, authoritarian?
24:22You're going down the wrong road right now with me.
24:24I wouldn't go any further.
24:25What does that mean? I'm not going to talk to anywhere.
24:27That's what it means. I just think it's ironic that no one voted for her
24:31to be the nominee. They just selected her like a king gets selected, right?
24:35Keep it to yourself. Okay.
24:36Bye. Have a good day.
24:38See ya. All right. What's your other sign say?
24:41No, you don't need to see it.
24:41Okay. You sound totally well, sir.
24:46Yes, yes. There was also a sign.
24:48Her opinion. Her opinion about there, that nobody voted for her to be the nominee.
24:51That's her opinion. That's actually a fact.
24:54There was a sign in my hometown that said something like, give them France 1789.
24:59It's like the French revolution.
25:01Do you know anything about that?
25:04Um, we've got one more clip also from New York City, just for the darker
25:08side of this, the silly people who don't know why they're protesting fine and haven't
25:11thought through any of this, whatever.
25:12Uh, this is, uh, New York City and here's the chant there.
25:16Working class revolution! Working class revolution!
25:23Solution! There is only one solution!
25:26Communist revolution! Communist revolution! There is only one solution!
25:32There is only one solution!
25:37Communist revolution! Yeah! Communism is gonna win, baby!
25:58I like how they tried, they tried to resist and made it a working class
26:07revolution in the first chant.
26:08And they're like, nah, I mean, we're carrying the hammer and sickle anyway.
26:12Let's just go all in.
26:14Yeah. Look, at least they're being honest, you know?
26:17I think a lot of the Democrats who support this kind of thing are not
26:20being honest that this is actually the end result that a lot of people are
26:23looking for. Um, it's baffling to me that a system that has failed every time
26:29it's been tried just keeps getting pushed on us and on people all over the
26:34world as if it's like something that, you know, maybe we'll just try it one
26:37more time. Maybe they, they just didn't do it right.
26:40Like, we're gonna do it right.
26:42And here's the actual theory, right?
26:44Is that Hassan Piker, a famous lefty streamer, is down in Cuba telling us that
26:49America's the problem with Cuba.
26:51Well, what's the, what's the logical conclusion here?
26:53Is that America ceases to exist and then communism can work perfectly, Carol.
26:58That's all we have to do is just, and then they're like, they're like, but
27:03I'm very patriotic, obviously. Right.
27:04Obviously I care a lot about America.
27:06I just wanted to be more like a failed society, like these societies.
27:11Yes. Yeah. Um, I, you know, an interesting side note to this is Bernie Sanders.
27:16had a tax the rich rally over the weekend and Zohar Mamdani didn't go, which
27:22is sort of fascinating because I think that could it be that Zohar Mamdani is
27:28catching on to the fact that he needs the wealthy to stay in New York
27:33to pay for all the nonsense he wants to pay for?
27:36I mean, I don't know that he's having this awakening, but if you're watching California
27:40and you're seeing these billionaires and even multimillionaires who wouldn't even be targeted by the
27:44proposal, but they know how it all ends up, if you see them bolt for
27:48the door and you're looking at your own tax base and you're hearing what Governor
27:51Hochul said about all the people that moved to Palm Beach and she lost this
27:55tax base that is completely cratered, could it be the Zohar Mamdani is like, I
28:00want all this free stuff, but I need the rich people to pay for it
28:03and I need them not to leave?
28:06I mean, he occasionally seems more tied to realism than other people in this coalition.
28:12But by virtue of the fact that, for instance, he knows how to suck up
28:15to Donald Trump and thinks that might get him something, he's correct about that.
28:18So maybe he has thought this through, but generally the socialists don't understand that wealth
28:23comes from anywhere. They're just like magic.
28:26The money tree in the backyard.
28:30Oh, that money tree has killed a lot of people over the years because it
28:34doesn't exist. Yep. Yep. We're just constantly watered by, you know, the blood of people
28:39who believe in it. Well, thanks for joining us on Normally, Normally airs Tuesdays and
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