Hour 3 - Inside the NFL Draft
4/24/202636 mincomplete
0:00This is an iHeart Podcast.
0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome back in.
0:05Final hour of the week.
0:07Clay Travis hanging out with all of you.
0:10Buck Sexton with his family for the weekend.
0:12He'll be back with me on Monday.
0:14I am up in Washington, D .C.
0:17Gearing up for, I'll be at the White House Correspondents Dinner tomorrow with Fox News
0:22as President Trump will make, I believe it's his first appearance at the White House
0:26Correspondents Dinner since Obama was in office.
0:29I believe that I am correct about that.
0:32We bring in now the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Scott Turner.
0:37And many of you last night were like me, sitting and watching the first round
0:42of the NFL Draft. I watched all three hours.
0:45So did my kids, the Travis boys, were all watching with me as well.
0:49And I believe you were at the NFL Draft last night, Mr.
0:54Secretary. And before I get into what happened last night, you were drafted, I believe,
0:59in the seventh round back in 1995 by the Washington at the time Redskins.
1:06What was draft night and the draft experience that weekend like for you?
1:11What do you remember from that time back in 1995?
1:15Well, Clay, thank you so much, man.
1:17It's great to be with you.
1:17You know, back then in 1995, the draft experience was a lot different.
1:21I was sitting in my apartment with my then fiancee, Robin, who's my wife of
1:2730 years now. And, you know, we watched the first round of the draft on
1:32TV. And then after that, everything was really on the radio.
1:37And so when I got drafted, man, in the seventh round, I didn't even know
1:40it until my phone rang.
1:42And it was North Turner from the Washington Redskins that said, hey, Scott, we have
1:46picked you, you know, in the seventh round of the NFL draft, I picked number
1:49226. And, you know, it really was a dream come true.
1:54You know, you work hard, you know, all your life since playing peewee football and
1:58having a testimony of your life going through, you know, a lot of difficult times.
2:03And then to get that phone call, really, man, is a great blessing from the
2:06Lord. And so to see these kids last night just overcome with emotion, you know,
2:12when they get their names called, no matter what round it is, it's really a
2:15great encouragement for me. What was your signing bonus back in 95?
2:18Do you remember as a seventh round pick?
2:21Oh, yes, sir. It was a whopping $33 ,000.
2:24I cleared $19 ,600 out to tax it.
2:28You know, there's a great story.
2:29I don't remember who the guy was, that he was an undrafted free agent and
2:33a team called him and they said, hey, I've got, you know, you're going to
2:36get $5 ,000 and the signing bonus or whatever it was.
2:40And the guy ended up playing for many years.
2:42He made a team. Right.
2:43And he thought he had to pay the team.
2:45And so his response was, well, I don't have it right now, but I think
2:48I could get it. And so $19 ,000, because a lot of people think, hey,
2:53you got drafted into the NFL, even today when you're going in the fifth, sixth,
2:58seventh round. I mean, yeah, first round pick, you make $50 million guaranteed.
3:01That's a big difference. But you got $19 ,000 after taxes.
3:05What did you do? Did you buy anything?
3:07No, sir. Listen, I had some great mentors, but I did have a $700 phone
3:12bill from the University of Illinois because my fiance, she did, my wife, Robin, she
3:18lived in Iowa. And so I had a big phone bill that I had to
3:21pay. And I had a tremendous agent who was a great steward of financial resources.
3:26And so I gave my, paid my phone bill off and I paid ties to
3:32my home church and then I put the rest in the bank to save.
3:35I had a 1987 Nissan Maximum back then and I kept it for my first
3:41three years in the NFL because my salaries were $119 ,000, $164 ,000, and $197
3:47,000. And I had a new wife that I was getting ready to get married
3:50to so I had to save all my money.
3:51But I really am grateful because I had great mentors that helped me.
3:57But that $19 ,000 to me, Clay, was a windfall.
4:00Yeah. No, I, so what do you tell, there's so many guys out there and
4:06you have undoubtedly met many of them over the years and I've coached a lot
4:10of kids and what I try to tell them all is no matter when you're
4:15at some point, you're a relatively young man, pretty much, your athletic career is going
4:20to be over. And it might end when you're in high school, it might end
4:23before you're in high school, it might end when you're in college and for a
4:27very small number it's going to end in the pros.
4:31But man, make sure you use the ball that the ball doesn't use you.
4:36And I just see so many young men in particular, young women are smarter because
4:40they haven't traditionally made as much money, but I bet you've seen so many guys
4:44that just thought that gravy train was always going to be there and they have
4:48no backup plan and the average NFL career as you well know is two and
4:52a half, three years and then you're 24, 25, 26 years old and you're in
4:56the real world. What advice would you give anybody out there who's got the kids,
5:00the grandkids, it's great to pursue sports but you better be thinking about something bigger.
5:05Exactly. I always have said for kids that are playing sports, boys and girls that
5:12are playing sports of any kind, learn as much as you can because those skills
5:17that you learn on a team, in a sport, are transferable life skills, the discipline,
5:23the teamwork. for kids, what are we gonna do for kids, Hard work, knowing how
5:26to be humble in victory and how to be steadfast in failure, knowing how to
5:31go through hardship and overcome hardship, knowing how to develop relationships with your superiors, be
5:38it your coaches, with those that are on your team, learning how to serve and
5:43help others to be great while you're trying to achieve your dream to be great.
5:47And those principles are for kids from peewee all the way through the pros.
5:52And then when you get into the pros, what I learned from Daryl Green, my
5:56rookie year, it was the second day of mini camp when I was at the
5:58Redskins. Now, I didn't even have a contract yet, Clay, and this guy, 12 -year
6:03veteran, all pro, comes up to me.
6:06He said, I'm going to tell you two things.
6:07And I said, yes, sir.
6:08He said, number one, prepare every year to retire because the NFL stands for not
6:13for long. So figure out what are the gifts God has given you and hone
6:17those skills and gifts and do that.
6:19And then he said, number two, create relationships outside of the locker room because the
6:24whole world, your whole world does not exist just in football.
6:27You have to create relationships in the faith community, you know, the business community, the
6:32community at large. And so those two things really were transferable and transformational in my
6:37life. What was it like last night in Pittsburgh?
6:40I believe over 300 ,000 people in person, tens of millions will have watched different
6:45parts of the draft last night.
6:47Fernando Mendoza, great story, goes number one overall.
6:51And a lot of new millionaires minted last night.
6:54What was the experience like for you?
6:56Well, you know, I am one.
7:00I like to be with the players, you know, former players.
7:03And we watch, you know, together on TV as legends.
7:08And to see these young kids and their families get their names called and come
7:14out of the green room and go on stage and put that hat on and
7:17take that picture with the commissioner, it's electric.
7:20You know, and then when you see them come back with their families, you know,
7:24and all smiles and just, you know, it's almost like this weight off your shoulders
7:28in a sense of, you know, I haven't arrived yet.
7:31But that first step, you know, has been accomplished and being drafted.
7:34And that never gets old, you know, because I know the work that goes into
7:39it, you know, what the families go through, the kids go through, the universities do.
7:44And so to see them to be able to achieve that first step, man, it's
7:48just, there's really no words to explain that.
7:51We're talking to Scott Turner.
7:53OK, one of the things that's a big step for everybody out there that you're
7:56trying to work on is getting an opportunity to potentially to buy that first home
8:01where you can start to build wealth.
8:03And I know there's executive orders that President Trump has put in place.
8:07A couple of things that are significant, making more home construction a possible for affordable
8:12levels and also then mortgage credit for people out there that haven't gone through the
8:17process. Maybe people listening to us right now, some of them have never bought their
8:22first home before, and that is an aspirational goal for them.
8:26What are you trying to do to make that process more effective, more efficient and
8:31get more people able to do it?
8:33Well, Clay, thank you for bringing up.
8:35You know, here's the thing.
8:36We want to make it easier for builders to build and easier for buyers to
8:39buy. Here's why I say that.
8:41We're taking down the regulatory environment around the country from a federal and really a
8:45whole of government standpoint, federal, state and local, because regulations have really crippled building and
8:51development around our country. And so we're starting at the federal level with taking down
8:56onerous and bureaucratic rules and also encouraging those localities to do the same to help
9:01builders and developers to be able to build and be innovative and use their creativity.
9:06We need about seven to 10 million units of homes in our country.
9:10And so we're doing that.
9:12Also, these two executive orders that you alluded to, one is to reduce the barriers
9:16to build affordable housing. And the other one is to bring really the hometown lenders
9:20or community banks back to the table to get into the mortgage lending game.
9:25That increases competition, and it also brings down the cost for people to borrow.
9:30Just in the first year at HUD, man, we helped about over a million people
9:35to afford to buy a home, and a half a million of those are first
9:39-time homebuyers through our FHA program.
9:41And here recently, Director Bill Pulte from FHFA and myself just announced, make a big
9:48announcement at HUD, at FHA, we're now going to accept Advantage Score and FICO 10T
9:55credit scores to expand the credit market for help people that, you know, they're paying
10:00their rent on time, paying their utilities on time to be able to qualify to
10:05have a mortgage. And that's for credit -worthy, trustworthy people.
10:08And so taking these regulations down, the two EOs from the president, and now this
10:13announcement to expand the credit market, I really believe is going to help our people
10:17to achieve the American dream.
10:19Scott Turner, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
10:22I'll close it out here.
10:23We appreciate the time. Who are you most optimistic in based on the first -round
10:29draft picks? Who would you like to buy stock in?
10:32Let's pretend that you got to be, you know, you got 10 % of somebody's
10:36earnings for the next 10 years.
10:37Who do you like? Who has impressed you that you met?
10:41You know, I love Sonny Stiles.
10:44I love Jeremiah. I love, I like the receiver, the kid Tyson out of Arizona
10:50State that went... Yeah, he's my son's favorite wide receiver in the draft.
10:56He absolutely loves his tape.
10:59Yeah, and Caleb Downs that went to the Cowboys.
11:02He might have been one of the talent -wise, one of the best players.
11:06Him and Jeremiah Love, probably the top two, top three players in the draft.
11:11This class right here, man, and we haven't even seen them all yet.
11:14There are some gems that are coming.
11:16But the ones that I've seen thus far, obviously I'm proud of all 32 of
11:20them. But those guys really stand out to me.
11:23Hey, it looked like an awesome scene there in Pittsburgh.
11:26Thanks for coming on with us.
11:28We know how busy you are.
11:29And for anybody out there, let's say that we got guys out there and gals
11:33out there that have never bought their first home, but they're really aspiring.
11:37They're working hard to try and do that.
11:39What advice would you give them?
11:42Here's what I would say, Clay.
11:43One, continue to be great stewards over your finances.
11:46Continue to save. Continue to be faithful with your earnings.
11:51And buy what you need, not just what you want.
11:53That's just from a stewardship principle standpoint.
11:55But also be encouraged to know that the president, myself, and others in this administration
12:00are taking bold steps to make sure that we're bringing down the cost of buying
12:07a home and raising the supply so that Americans, first -time homebuyers, and others will
12:12be able to afford a home in our great United States of America.
12:16So be encouraged, be great stewards, stay faithful, and understand that the policies that we're
12:22enacting will open the door for those first -time homebuyers.
12:26Outstanding stuff. He is Scott Turner, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
12:32Scott, we appreciate the time.
12:34Hey, thank you, Clay. I appreciate you.
12:36Man, that was a fun scene yesterday.
12:38I know, I sometimes wonder.
12:40I know Buck didn't watch because I was joking with him yesterday.
12:42He had a great book event, Manufacturing Delusion is the book.
12:46You should go buy a copy if you haven't already.
12:47He had a great event.
12:49All the podcast network came out in New York City.
12:52Producer Ali was there, our boss, Julie Talbot.
12:54It was great. I'm sorry to miss it.
12:55But I was kidding with him because I said, hey, are you watching the NFL
13:00draft? I knew he wasn't going to watch.
13:02I bet over half of this audience watched at least some portion of the NFL
13:05draft last night. I know that Producer Ali would tell me that Rush, the audience
13:10way over indexed, because Rush was a massive sports fan.
13:13He almost bought an NFL team back in the day.
13:16That would have been a pretty good investment, by the way, if it had happened,
13:18if the St. Louis Rams back then, if I remember correctly.
13:22And it was an awesome event.
13:24I just, I love the draft because I'd like to see the meritocracy work.
13:30Guys who have been working and their families that have been supporting them so hard
13:36and boom, overnight, you become a millionaire.
13:40People say overnight, but really, it's not overnight because you've been busting your butt for
13:46so long to get to that point.
13:47And I just love that writ large, the concept of people, most of whom didn't
13:53have a lot, suddenly having success based on the meritocracy and being rewarded for it.
14:00It never gets old to me.
14:01And I feel the same way about people building companies and selling them, buying your
14:05homes. I really think ultimately much of the culture surrounding the Republican and Democrat parties
14:13is about, do you believe in a fixed pie, right?
14:19We had pizza last night.
14:21Pizza last night, Travis, boys, everybody got together.
14:24We wanted to watch the NFL draft.
14:25Do you believe in a fixed pie, right?
14:27There's one pizza and there are 12 slices.
14:30And if you got three boys like I do and you got a dad who
14:34still likes to eat quite a bit, there's not a lot to go around.
14:38Or do you believe in the idea of we want to grow pies?
14:42If you believe in a fixed pie, then all you're ever going to do is
14:45fight and you're going to be bitter and you're going to be arguing over why
14:49somebody got something because that means you don't get it.
14:52That's really one way to look at the world.
14:55There's a limited amount of resources and I'm going to get mine.
14:59And if I don't, if I get mine, I got to knock you out of
15:02the way to get it.
15:03And I don't care. That's really to me what the Democrat party is.
15:07There's 12 pieces of pizza.
15:09That's all there's ever going to be.
15:10And if somebody got six, that means that somebody else didn't get any and I'm
15:14going to get mine. I'm not going to concern.
15:16That's one way to look at the world.
15:17The way that I've always looked at the world is let's make more pies.
15:21Let's actually create more for everyone and not fight over a limited resource.
15:27Let's make more for everybody.
15:30And that to me is the Republican party.
15:32I think it really simplifies things when you think about it that way.
15:34Explains everything. Mom, Donnie, and what's going on in New York City right now?
15:39Oh, we got to go after the billionaires because they're taking too much.
15:43Well, what if they're creating way more and you're just not recognizing it?
15:46I think it's so significant.
15:47It's a way to think about the world.
15:49And once you see it, I believe that you will start to see that everywhere.
15:53There's limited resources or we're going to build more resources.
15:57Which way do you want to look at the world?
16:00You want to build more?
16:01Or do you want to worry about not building anything and try to shepherd who
16:06gets what? Democrats don't want to build.
16:08They just want to shepherd what exists.
16:10Republicans want to build new things.
16:12And I think President Trump is the ultimate builder -in -chief.
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17:22our friend scott turner when we come back we'll close up the final half hour
17:27of the program we'll take your calls your talk backs and we've got some funny
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18:15the weed people do we get stephen a smith telling you to put down the
18:20weed it's one of the best stephen a smith clips of all time i thought
18:24my take on don't smoke weed every day and also don't drink alcohol every day
18:31you'll probably be healthier might be the least controversial thing i've ever said in the
18:37history of this program in five years and producer ali tells me the weed people
18:42are just deluging us including let's see ali i want to make sure bradley ali
18:50will you come on the air are we being the weed people which is a
18:55bit of a surprise because generally they tend to be pretty chill and not that
18:58hard workers evidently i've managed to bring them out of their weed and do stupors
19:03and they are furious at me over my weed take yep apparently that's what's going
19:08on clay um all right so you just sent me this vip email from bradley
19:12if people who use cannabis daily okay first of all starting with cannabis daily there's
19:18a wide variety of different cannabis related products right what i said was if you
19:24smoke weed daily and if you drink alcohol daily in my opinion you will be
19:31less successful in life than those who neither smoke weed nor drink alcohol i think
19:38that is among the least controversial takes that i have ever had and i didn't
19:43even say don't smoke weed and don't drink i just said don't do it every
19:47day okay that is my wild outlandish take that has set the weed people into
19:52an uproar all right bradley writes in uh if people who use cannabis daily or
19:57regularly on and off and people who drink alcohol on a daily or regular basis
20:02are generally not going to become a productive person not what i said i said
20:07they're going to be less productive than people who neither do or consume drugs and
20:13alcohol but just listen care more carefully then do you think people who this is
20:17totally different shift but i'm gonna i'm gonna actually say yes to this then do
20:22you think people who have been on antidepressants or other psychoactive drugs prescribed to them
20:28are going to underperform in life as well this may be even more controversial i
20:33don't think you should be on antidepressants for decades if you need to be on
20:39drugs for decades i think you are being taken advantageous my personal opinion i think
20:46very often you are being taken advantage of by big pharma now there are exceptions
20:50but if you're i've got teenage boys if your 15 year old is on adhd
20:57medication and he's gonna have to be on adhd medication for the next 40 years
21:03of his life i don't think that's healthy if your 15 year old daughter is
21:07on antidepressants and she's gonna have to be on antidepressants for the next 50 years
21:11of her life i don't think that's healthy either now i understand i'm somewhat old
21:16school i like natural things i take a multivitamin i my wife picks on me
21:22all the time when i have a fever i don't even like taking tylenol now
21:26i am not well you look at me i'm not the healthiest person who's ever
21:30existed in the history of the world but i have not had a sick day
21:35in about 25 years so maybe i'm just lucky but take walks exercise try to
21:45limit the drugs that you put in your body I think that's good advice and
21:51also don't smoke weed every day and don't drink alcohol every day but in moderation
21:56it's okay that seems this is like the least controversial advice I've ever given if
22:02that advice upsets you I would suggest maybe it's because deep down you're thinking to
22:10yourself you know what he's right usually when advice upsets you it's because you know
22:17it's the right advice but it forces you to change something in your life like
22:23people give me advice all the time if I know it's moronic advice I don't
22:28sit around and worry about it if you told me right now hey Clay you
22:31know what would be good for you eat a pint of ice cream every day
22:34I would say okay that might work for someone with the greatest the greatest uh
22:39system on the planet right you burn 8 ,000 calories a day you might be
22:45able to eat a pint of Ben and Jerry's ice cream every day maybe not
22:48Ben and Jerry's because they're communist but whatever the anti -communist ice cream is you
22:52might be able to do that and be okay because you burn 8 ,000 calories
22:55a day I don't I would be as fat as Rosie O'Donnell as soon as
23:00you snap your fingers speaking of Rosie O'Donnell don't we have a clip of Rosie
23:04O'Donnell let's play it oh I thought that was a perfect transition am I not
23:10right didn't you just tell me we have a great clip all right here we
23:15go I think with the praise of billionaires and everybody thinking that's a great thing
23:19to be a billionaire you know it should be embarrassing to be a billionaire it
23:24should be embarrassing to have the ability to help society and choose not to I
23:29mean you know I don't know I don't understand how much can you have I
23:36would love if my kids grew up to be billionaires I would be ecstatic not
23:40because I want them to give me anything at all but because it would mean
23:44that they were excellent at something there's a war against excellence in this country there's
23:51a war against exceptionalism in this country there's a war against merit look I've said
23:57this for a long time if you truly want to change the world one of
24:02the best ways you could change the world is to become a billionaire because then
24:07you have the resources to be able to do the things that you think are
24:11important to change the world so much of life is fundraising if you're not rich
24:19if you're not rich and you want to change the world do you know what
24:23you have to do you have to get rich people to give you money so
24:26that you can change the world I personally would rather make the money myself so
24:32that I could change the world instead of having to beg other people who made
24:36money to give me money so that I can change the world I would rather
24:41cut out the middleman I bet most of you agree with that if your kid
24:47can grow up to be a billionaire unlike Rosie O'Donnell you shouldn't be insulted Elon
24:53Musk is about to be a trillionaire Elon Musk has done more to make in
24:59my opinion capitalism a success in the world than anybody in the history of the
25:05world we just had Stephen Moore in studio in here he told you that when
25:11he came to Washington DC in 1983 when Ronald Reagan was coming into office the
25:17Dow Jones industrials was at 1000 if you bought Dow Jones industrial stock at a
25:24thousand some of you did who are listening right now and you have merely held
25:29on to that you haven't even invested the dividends that you've gotten the Dow is
25:34about to hit 50 ,000 it already hit 50 ,000 but it's about to hit
25:3750 ,000 again now I understand inflation exists and all of those things because you
25:42guys always email me well inflation's thing yeah but still really good you have drastically
25:47risen up and dunked on inflation and destroyed it if you merely invested in American
25:55exceptionalism I always tell people this buy S &P 500 index funds don't look at
26:02them for 20 years thank me later you don't have to be brilliant to get
26:08rich in America you just have to make decent decisions with long range horizons in
26:14place everybody listening to me if you are 25 years old right now you can
26:21certainly become a millionaire if you just invest smartly and spend less than you make
26:27and continue to pour more money into investments for the next 40 years of your
26:32life every single one of you listening to me right now who's 25 years old
26:36you don't have to reinvent the wheel you don't have to be Elon Musk you
26:42don't have to become a billionaire you can just make smart rational financial decisions with
26:49a horizon of decades as opposed to years and by the way it helps if
26:54you don't get divorced and if you don't have kids until you get married there
26:59are all sorts of things that you can do that are just basic common sense
27:02doesn't mean you have to be perfect but we're not reinventing the wheel here and
27:08so I really do believe I think more people should talk about this if you
27:12want to change the world the best way you can change the world is by
27:16making way more money than you need to live on and investing that money in
27:21helping to change the world.
27:23That's the truth. Because I'm here to tell you right now, do you know what
27:27people ask me for all the time now?
27:30Money. So that they can change the world.
27:33That's great. You know what would be better than having to ask me to give
27:37you money so that you can do something that you think benefits society?
27:40You make the money and you do it yourself.
27:43Now there are challenges on that.
27:44It's actually really hard to donate money effectively because so much of it gets wasted.
27:51But if you want to change the world, the best thing you could do is
27:55become a billionaire. There are lots of other things that people do that are immeasurably
28:01beneficial to society, but it's hard for one individual person making $50 ,000 a year
28:09for their entire life to fundamentally alter all of society in a way that benefits
28:15the particular perspectives that they care about.
28:18My son asked me about this the other day.
28:20He's like, Dad, do you think your tax dollars get spent very well?
28:23I said, no, no, not at all.
28:26That's why I try to limit how much tax I pay.
28:28I'm going to take 40 plus percent of every dollar that I make.
28:30As I told you guys, you listen to this show every Monday and Tuesday, I
28:35work for the federal government.
28:37Think about how crazy that is.
28:38I don't start making money for my family until Wednesday.
28:41Every word, whether you agree with it or disagree with it, that I say on
28:44Monday, Tuesday, that's work for the federal government.
28:47Because he was asking me, he said, hey, Dad, do you think we should spend
28:50more money on NASA? I said, yeah, actually I do.
28:53I think colonizing the moon, colonizing Mars, I would rather do that than give money
29:00so fat people can get potato chips cheaper.
29:03My personal opinion, if I got to direct my tax dollars, I would like my
29:10tax dollars to go to NASA.
29:11You know what? I don't get to do that.
29:13I'd like to own a missile.
29:15I'd like to pick a missile like I would have enjoyed investing in the missile
29:20that took out the Ayatollah.
29:22I would have liked to have signed my name on it.
29:24Hey, here's all the money that I paid in taxes, but this missile, boom, it
29:28just took out the Ayatollah.
29:30Hey, that's kind of a decent way to spend money.
29:34Mars, doing a base on the moon, that would be cool.
29:42Funding a lot of crappy NGOs that just waste our money.
29:48No, I'm not really into that.
29:52So anyway, don't smoke weed, at least not every day.
29:57And don't drink alcohol, at least not every day.
30:00And now you can all email Buck if you're angry about that advice, because he's
30:04the one who said it.
30:05When we come back, we will close up shop on the program.
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31:15Welcome back in. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show.
31:18Remember, if you're angry about anything in today's show, Buck said it.
31:20It's his fault. Doc in San Diego, what you got for us, Doc?
31:25I compliment you on your exposing the side effects and the limitations for people in
31:34life that use brain -altering psychiatric medications.
31:38You're very correct. They're not as successful and the side effects, all these medications, psychiatric
31:46meds have a black box warning, which means this can kill you.
31:50And now they're discovering that antidepressants have an effect on the kidneys.
31:57And I have a good friend.
31:59I was in the military.
32:00He was a general and his wife died and he was taking antidepressants and he
32:06wound up dying of kidney disease.
32:08Well, thank you for the call.
32:10Look, I can't speak to specifics.
32:11Here's what I would say in general.
32:13And I've thought a lot about this with obviously my own kids.
32:16Kids have to learn how to regulate their emotions.
32:19And sometimes they're going to do a very poor job of it.
32:22That's part of being a kid.
32:23But when you convince people that it is normal to be on multiple medications and
32:30the way they interact with each other and many of these medications that then would
32:35be designed for kids to be on for decades, it's not healthy.
32:40It's just not. I really do.
32:43firmly believe that if we cut the amount of prescription drugs that kids are on,
32:48kids in particular, the country would be way healthier.
32:52I just do. I think you could cut 50 % of all prescription drugs that
32:56kids are on. And look, there are all sorts of exceptions, right?
33:02When you get into your 70s and your 80s, it's a different aspect of your
33:06life. But the idea that 14 and 15 -year -old kids would be all meted
33:11up as if there are awful things wrong with them, I just don't buy.
33:15I think that we have been sold a bill of goods on a lot of
33:18this. The pot people are still firing away.
33:22Jerry, you're super rich and you smoke pot all the time.
33:27Is Jerry there? Jerry, put down the weed.
33:36Jerry calls in to tell me how rich he is and he smokes weed all
33:39the time. And he's playing pool in the background there and he can't manage to
33:43pick up his phone and tell me how much weed he smokes.
33:46He hung up? Producer Greg said he wanted to tell me that he was, let's
33:51see, he smokes pot all the time.
33:53He's a multimillionaire. He's that I'm out of touch.
33:56And then what did he do?
33:57We went to him and he couldn't talk.
34:01Called in, wants to yell at me about how rich he is because he smokes
34:04pot all the day. But he just said he smoked every other day.
34:09It's still probably not very good, but it's not every day.
34:13I can't believe if you analyze these habits of people who are multimillionaires and you
34:22index them for regular alcohol and drug use.
34:26I think you would find that the average multimillionaire, this is my bet, uses drugs
34:31and alcohol less than the average person in America does because becoming a multimillionaire requires
34:38that you be incredibly productive and that typically and that you work a lot of
34:42hours. Now, if you inherit it, well, that makes a little bit of a difference.
34:47But this is very, very different than the situation at hand.
34:53All right, look, I am going to be up here in D .C.
34:57Should have a fun weekend.
34:58I hope all of you have fantastic weekends.
35:00I started off the show by saying there are real tangible results of safety, of
35:06a decline in violence that is not receiving very much attention.
35:10Washington, D .C. is the safest that it has ever been in the lives of
35:15anyone that is listening right now.
35:17That's a profoundly successful story.
35:19I hope President Trump shares it with the White House Correspondents Dinner that he will
35:25be attending tomorrow night. I will be there.
35:28And I hope we get the same President Trump that we got.
35:32If you remember at the Al Smith dinner in New York City, when he showed
35:37up in 2024 at that charitable event and Kamala Harris didn't, how great he was,
35:43how funny he was, how engaging he was, I am hoping we get that President
35:48Trump for tomorrow. And if we do, I hope before he gets into all the
35:52jokes, he manages to tell everybody that they are very fortunate and very safe because
35:57of the work that he and many other people in Washington, D .C.
36:00have done to keep us all safe.
36:02And we need to be doing the same things that worked in D .C.
36:04and in Memphis all across this United States.
36:08Do less drugs, drink less alcohol.
36:10Crazy advice for me. Have a great weekend.