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1:24It's President's Day, and the President of the United States is covering up a child

1:28sex trafficking ring, disgracing the country, ripping away people's health care.

1:33Let's just get right into it.

1:35We have now learned that Donald Trump may still be concealing an additional 50 terabytes

1:41that constitutes the Epstein files.

1:43That could literally mean hundreds of millions of documents are still being concealed, not just

1:49like an extra three million documents, which is what Todd Blanche and Bondi said they

1:54were withholding based on their own adjudication of privilege claims that are not valid privilege

1:59claims, to withhold what are likely the most devastating documents, far more devastating than what's

2:05even been produced. But in addition to those three million documents, there's probably somewhere in

2:10the range of 50 to 100 million documents.

2:12We'll break that down. Also, over the weekend, Donald Trump's Department of Justice also published

2:18their own Epstein list. They basically published a fake list to try to muddy the

2:22waters. So they have like Donald Trump's name and other people from the Trump regime

2:26who were actually close with Epstein.

2:28Then they put people on the list like Janis Joplin and Marilyn Monroe and Elvis

2:33and Dan Quayle and people like that.

2:35And also, like if you were investigating Epstein, they put you on the list as

2:40well. So like Massey's name is on it and Marjorie Taylor Greene's name is on

2:44it. And the idea is just to put everybody on it in order to just

2:48like cast doubt on the list in general.

2:50That's just how despicable this regime is.

2:53We'll break it down. This past weekend, Donald Trump was haunted by former President Obama,

2:57former President Clinton and potentially future President Gavin Newsom.

3:02All three were going on the offense.

3:04Obama here in the United States attending the All -Star Game and doing interviews where

3:08he called out Donald Trump's clownish behavior.

3:10And then in Munich, you had former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Governor of

3:17California Gavin Newsom going on the offense against Donald Trump on the world stage.

3:22We'll cover that. And meanwhile, you had Marco Rubio giving speeches at Munich.

3:27We'll cover that. declaring that the world order is officially destroyed, like bragging that the

3:32United States destroyed the global world order.

3:34Rubio then went to Hungary, where he's been in the past 24 hours, standing shoulder

3:39to shoulder with Viktor Orban, trying to hoist up that regime, interfere with the elections

3:44in Hungary to keep a Putin bootlicker in power in Hungary as Orban is trailing.

3:50We also saw world leaders throughout the Munich conference speaking out against the Trump regime,

3:55acknowledging the world order is effectively destroyed by the United States, but being rebuilt by

4:02Europe, Canada, Australia, Asia, and as the United States is isolating itself, apparently U .S.,

4:10Orban, Russia, that's the U .S.

4:12crew right now, and it's so utterly freaking embarrassing.

4:16And then you have Donald Trump posting as usual, his embarrassing President's Day messages saying,

4:21ah, everything's great, everybody's rich, we're the richest, everyone's doing amazing, golden age, I'm the

4:26greatest, yay, yay, yay, yay, yay, as people are suffering here.

4:29Let's bring in Brett and Jordy, good to see you brothers.

4:32In other words, we've got a lot to discuss on this show.

4:36If you thought the holiday would be a slow news day, think again.

4:40I'm hearing a lot of people call this President's Day Obama Day.

4:43I've noticed that going around on the internet, I think because people know that that

4:47pisses off Trump so much.

4:49But you know, you got to know that seeing Obama out there at the NBA

4:54All -Star Game, getting a standing ovation from the crowd, having all the players go

5:00up there and give him high fives, all the photos, all the kind of posts

5:04by the various NBA teams with him, you know that's got to kill Donald Trump.

5:08You know that's got to just absolutely torture the guy, and good, because he is

5:13torturing us every single day, and he is covering up for this horrific child sex

5:18trafficking ring. What the DOJ did over the weekend, like I, you know, I should

5:23never say that they hit rock bottom, because there's always a basement to rock bottom

5:27with this regime. Such an absolute disgrace with this sort of fake list that they

5:32released to muddy the waters, and everything else that they have done has just been

5:36such a slap in the face to the survivors, has just been a slap in

5:39the face also to just all the American people who are demanding justice and are

5:44demanding the truth. And one of the interesting things is seeing that even many of

5:48the diehard MAGA people now are finally starting to wake up as we see the

5:54floor fall out from Donald Trump's approval rating.

5:57You thought there might have been a floor there.

5:59Well, it seems like Donald Trump keeps sinking lower and lower and lower.

6:03We're going to get into all of that.

6:05But you know, first, we got to toss it over to Jordy and see how

6:07Jordy's doing. Jordy, what's the latest?

6:09What's up, brothers? What's up, Midas Mighty?

6:11I'm excited to get into today's show.

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6:36I think we might hit it this week.

6:38We might hit it this week.

6:39We'll see. We'll see. Benji, where are we starting off today, big bro?

6:43You know, I probably have now reviewed the millions of records in the redacted Epstein

6:49files that have been produced.

6:51How many times do you think?

6:51I've read through them like 20 times.

6:54And I think I've covered them from every angle.

6:56Go back and watch the long form videos I've done everything where I speak about

7:01the Putin connections within the Epstein files, the New Mexico.

7:06ranch, the Zorro Ranch, which there was never any subpoenas or FBI searches.

7:12And the ranch is one of the areas where most of the crimes were taking

7:15place. We talk a lot about the island.

7:17We talk a lot about the townhouse in New York and what was going on

7:20at West Palm Beach. But a lot of the crimes were happening at this Zorro

7:23Ranch in New Mexico, where Epstein was able to avoid registering as a sex offender,

7:29taking advantage of loopholes under New Mexico law.

7:31And we covered what goes down there.

7:34We talked about, of course, the Trump connections over and over again.

7:37And it just bears, right?

7:38Like I could go through any stack and I find documents like before the show,

7:42I was just looking through the documents that I've been going through.

7:44And I mean, just think about an email like this.

7:46This is April 18th, 2011.

7:50And it's from Epstein's private investigator to Epstein saying, before I call Trump with regard

7:56Virginia, are there any other alternatives or an email from June 8th of 2018 between

8:03Epstein and an artist named Andre Serrano?

8:07And you have Epstein saying, one Madonna on the way instead of torture photo, maybe

8:12portrait of me instead. Presentation of Trumpville.

8:16Here it is. Room should be 75 by 75.

8:19And then, you know, over the weekend, there was lots of reporting, too, about the

8:24text messages between Epstein and Bannon.

8:29I know we've covered that a lot.

8:30So, I mean, you're like, oh, yeah, tell me something new.

8:32More of a focus on trying to overthrow Pope Francis and that there was this

8:37massive effort as Epstein and Bannon were working with these MAGA files.

8:44I guess we should probably call them now MAGA files.

8:47These Epstein class people during the first Trump administration to overthrow liberal democracies across the

8:56world and hoist up MAGA leaders like Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil and keep in power

9:02people like Orban in Hungary.

9:04And by the way, in Hungary, someone like a Victor Orban used allegations of pedophilia

9:10against his political enemies, saying that Orban would be the one to hunt down the

9:15pedos. Exact same playbook. I've covered this before on the network.

9:19And then ultimately, the juvenile prison system in Budapest was being used by Orban's regime

9:27to sex traffic underage boys and girls.

9:30And they themselves were the pedos.

9:32Like, that's a kind of common theme we're seeing here amongst these kind of right

9:37wing authoritarian regimes. They used the same playbook.

9:41They were trying to overthrow Pope Francis.

9:44And so they talk about, like, planting porn on Pope Francis or like, should we

9:48know porn? Let's take him down.

9:50We're going to take down the Clintons, Francis, the EU, Xi.

9:54Come on, brother. I mean, this is Bannon and Epstein.

9:58And look, it's like Epstein was like running the Trump administration.

10:03It was like talking about holding cabinet meetings on the island after Trump was elected.

10:10You've got messages between Epstein to multiple people looking for who was going to be

10:17the treasury secretary. Epstein looked like he was in charge of identifying who the treasury

10:23secretary was going to be in the first Trump administration.

10:26So I think back when I think about the tools of the authoritarian playbook, I

10:32think to how the projection of the Trumps and the MAGA and their conferences and

10:39how they weaponize this against their political opponents.

10:43I mean, yeah, but. By the way, Tom Barrack right now, one of Trump's top

10:47diplomats. I mean, in August 2011, you have Barrack emailing Epstein and saying, just saw

10:53the sultan who likes you a lot, right?

10:55This is the sultan who sent him the torture photos.

10:57I told him you are the best, that you are a first class, Jeffrey.

11:01You're a first class brain inside a first class human being.

11:05Miss you. And then the guy right now who's the CBS host, Atia, because CBS

11:14is regime media, you have Barry Weiss and CBS refusing to get rid of Atia.

11:20Atia is like talking about, I didn't want to say the words, I didn't want

11:23to say the words, they're so grotesque, talking about female genitalia being low carbs.

11:30I'll just say that is what this guy Atia was saying to Epstein.

11:34And the hardest part about being your best friend is knowing that most people don't

11:39even know the things that we do, or I can't even share what we all

11:42do together. And then you have a quote, ready?

11:452016, I go into J .E.

11:47withdrawal. I go into Jeffrey Epstein withdrawal when I don't see him.

11:51This is the guy they're keeping around at CBS.

11:54There's other ones that are just like what I'm saying, like where he's like, you

11:57know, the hardest part about being your best friend is most people don't know about

12:01all the secrets or something.

12:02Like it's like our secret code, you know, and then he says that we have

12:07women's genitalia is low carb, you know, and you just disgusting stuff.

12:12But like he wrote that the worst part about being Epstein's friend was that, quote,

12:16the life you lead is so outrageous and yet I can't tell a soul.

12:21You see, I mean, look, I don't even have the files in front of me.

12:24I can pretty much give you an encyclopedic recount of all of the things that

12:29are said. But CBS is like, yeah, we can't give in to the woke mob.

12:33We have to keep that guy.

12:35Why do you have to keep that guy?

12:36What are you talking about?

12:38So you have all that.

12:39But I'm just thinking about at these at these MAGA conferences, like what that remember

12:44the line that they would also I could show you this for hours.

12:47But do we have that clip, Brett and Geordi of Don Jr.

12:51at the MAGA conferences when Biden was in office and like what they would say

12:56about like this was all the left and this is what Biden's cover up here.

13:00Play this clip of Don Jr.

13:02I am on every list except the Epstein list.

13:06We haven't heard anything about that one in a while.

13:11I'm fine with all the other lists.

13:13As long as I'm not on the Epstein list, we're good, right?

13:18Speaking of which, how is it that my father can be convicted of 34 crimes,

13:23but no one on Epstein's list has even been brought to light?

13:28How is I'm trying to figure out how that's possible, right?

13:35It's almost like they're trying to protect those pedophiles for some reason.

13:38And I can't imagine why, right?

13:40We're not allowed to say they're groomers, but when they act a lot like groomers,

13:44sort of tells you everything you need to know, right?

13:47Now what they're doing, too, is did you see these graphics that the MAGA influencers

13:53are making, like the track Epstein graphics and they'll have like Thomas Massey's face on

13:58it and say on the Epstein list when he was the person who unmasked the

14:04Epstein files with Ro Khanna.

14:06This is the playbook right out of authoritarianism, right?

14:10It is to say all these other people are the, you know, all these other

14:15people are pedos and cover up the actual pedo ring that's taking place.

14:19I mean, the cabal, the sex trafficking cover up that exists.

14:23taking place in the White House.

14:24And the good news is, is though, you know, Brett, when they tried, and Jordy,

14:28when they tried to publish that fake list over the weekend, right away, Midas Touch

14:32was out there. We were there right away.

14:34Fake list, bullshit, call it out, say what it is.

14:37And it was interesting though, because while you do see these MAGA influencers like Cat

14:41Turd and that crew, that group is getting smaller and smaller.

14:45And it's just interesting to see that people who would never agree with us before

14:50are favorably saying, they're right, Midas Touch has been right.

14:55Like what you guys have been saying all along, we've been lied to.

14:58Yeah. And they, you know, I think Don Jr.

15:00and a lot of these MAGA influencers, when Biden was president, really took advantage of

15:05the fact that Biden was somebody who actually abided by norms and traditions of the

15:10United States and actually believed in a separation between the Department of Justice and the

15:14executive branch. So Biden, maybe he should have released the files and tried to smear

15:19Donald Trump by getting all this information about Trump out there.

15:22But that wasn't Biden's MO and there was active cases and appeals from Ghislaine Maxwell.

15:28And so they said all of those things knowing that they were in the files,

15:33knowing that Trump was like the main character of the Epstein files.

15:37They should just be called the Trump Epstein files.

15:39And even Don Jr. is mentioned many times in the Epstein files.

15:43I was able to find three quick examples right here where Jeffrey Epstein asks somebody,

15:49can we do a coffee with Don Jr.

15:51Thursday, Friday, only if easy.

15:53And this is January, 2019.

15:56And then they send some dates for the coffee.

15:58I don't know if the coffee ended up happening, but they were scheduling a coffee

16:01with Don Jr. Epstein was in 2019.

16:04There's another thing where Epstein speaking with Steve Bannon here.

16:07This is in 2018, where Epstein suggests sending a clip to Don Jr.

16:12There's another moment where Jeffrey Epstein references that I'm out in Palm Beach.

16:18I'm with the Trump boys right now.

16:20I don't know who the Trump boys might be, but Epstein said in an email

16:23that he was with the Trump boys.

16:25So just the gall of somebody to get up there on stage and say those

16:28things when you know that you and your family are like the most implicated out

16:33of anybody. But to Ben's point, that's part of the strategy, as we've seen with

16:38Trump from the very beginning.

16:39Everything he says is projection.

16:41Everything he says is a confession of something that he himself has done.

16:46Whenever he calls somebody else a name, whenever he comes up with a conspiracy theory

16:50about somebody, it's usually to mask something that he himself is trying to hide from

16:57the public. And you're really now seeing this sort of delineation, I think, in the

17:01MAGA world between the people who, you know, are just the paid shills.

17:05Like I, and I, I've seen a lot of - The binder crew.

17:08What was that? The white binder crew.

17:10Yeah. The white binder crew.

17:11And then you see the folks who have at least a little bit of independence,

17:15right? Maybe they're not, maybe the checks stopped cashing.

17:18You know, I don't know what the situation is, but even like when this fake

17:21list dropped from the DOJ, I think Midas Touch was the first, I think we

17:24were the first organization to get our hands on this list and posted.

17:28Aaron Parnas, great. Got a great scoop here.

17:30And we immediately saw the list for what it was because they put people like

17:34Elvis Presley on it. They put people like Marilyn Monroe on it, Janis Joplin, and

17:39in a mix with names of other people who were actually involved with Epstein in

17:42a mix with, uh, and also not getting a lot of the people on this

17:47list who we knew were actually involved with Epstein from reading the files ourselves.

17:52And the survivors told us that many of the biggest perpetrators of these crimes of

17:56Epstein's associates were not even on this list.

17:59So what they did was they just assembled, they just assembled, Oh, if somebody, there

18:03was a news article that somebody shared about somebody, maybe it said to this day

18:07in 1968, Janis Joplin released her hit single, you know, whatever.

18:12That means that Janis Joplin would be on this list.

18:14If they said, I love Elvis.

18:17Elvis is one of my favorite artists of all time.

18:19That means Elvis now gets on this list.

18:21And he is viewed the same by the Department of Justice as somebody like a

18:25Donald Trump, as somebody like a former Prince Andrew, as a Ghislaine Maxwell.

18:29And so there was a lot of uproar about this.

18:31And you actually saw these MAGA influencers online copying and pasting the same tweets to

18:37each other, including people like Alex Jones, like, dude, this was your big issue.

18:40And now you got all the information, not all the information, but you got a

18:43lot of information. And now you're going to try to spin it to protect Donald

18:46Trump. Really? What a fricking fraud.

18:48But all these people posting things like this vindicates Trump.

18:52Oh, Thomas Massey's on the list.

18:54Oh, shut up. Stop with the theatrics.

18:57All you're doing is making yourself seem that much guiltier every time you cover it

19:02up. And as one of these influencers, these MAGA propagandists who are online, all you

19:07are showing everybody is how big of frauds you truly are.

19:11Copying and pasting tweets, defending this crap.

19:14This crap is indefensible. This is some of the most heinous things that we have

19:18ever seen, and it should not be defended ever.

19:22Absolutely. Look, you don't want to go down in history as a pedo protector.

19:26And so what you're seeing these right wing influencers do with their platform, I mean,

19:31they're just exposing themselves. You know, I mentioned that whole white binder crew, right?

19:35What I mean by that is there was a crew that had visited the White

19:37House early on in this latest Trump regime, where they held up the white binders

19:41that said, like, the Epstein files, and they were all touting, hey, look, we got

19:45the Epstein, we know the truth.

19:47And the coverup, again, the coverup in this instance is not worse than the crime.

19:53The crime is the most heinous thing in the world.

19:54But what we're seeing with the coverup right now, pedo protectors left and right, and

20:00the ones who constantly defend this stuff, defend how the Trump regime is releasing the

20:05files, defend Donald Trump tooth and nail.

20:07It's just weird. It's just weird, like flat out.

20:11It's just a bizarre thing to do.

20:13And you talk about being the main character, Brett.

20:15Donald Trump is literally the main character of the Epstein files, to your point.

20:20I mean, his name comes up more times in the Epstein files than Harry Potter

20:26was mentioned in the entire Potter series.

20:29What else do you need to know about that?

20:31It's truly despicable. And why I've seen some of these, you know, maybe non -MAGA

20:36right wing, you know, bros come around to the quote unquote, you know, Midas position,

20:40which is really just the truth, the true position, you know, is what we're looking

20:44for here is that people like to box us in right here at this network.

20:49Oh, look, look at the Midas touch network.

20:51Oh, those bunch of those lefty libs or however they want to like frame us

20:54in their minds at the root of it.

20:56Every single day, every single thing that we've ever done was just to find the

21:01truth, to actually care about what is going on in this country and to continue

21:04to report on that day in and day out.

21:06And so I'm hopeful that more people do not want to be defined forever as,

21:11as pedo protectors and want to uncover the truth.

21:14And we'll have them on along for this ride because it's too damn important.

21:18It is too damn important, Ben.

21:20Well, you ask, what else would you want to know?

21:22What else is in the 98 % of documents that have not been released?

21:26I knew there was a lot missing just based on my civil litigation background in

21:31complex civil cases where if you go back in episodes, I would tell you what

21:36it was like me as an associate and a former partner.

21:39at law firms as a former litigator, I would look through terabytes and terabytes of

21:46documents and I would be responsible for going through 10, 20 million documents.

21:50And I was always saying, there's no way that the Epstein documents are this small.

21:54It just doesn't make any sense.

21:56And then one of the things that I knew was missing is like, where's all

21:58the financial records? And I'm talking about the dailies, the weeklies, the monthlies, the annual

22:04accounts. Because what I would do as a young associate and as a partner too,

22:10is I would go through line by line transactions.

22:15And I would try to flag if there were suspicious transactions.

22:19And when I was practicing, I didn't have access to all this AI software like

22:23Claude and OpenAI and all this stuff that's out there where you can go through

22:27a lot of these financials pretty quickly.

22:30But you would flag, wait a minute, $9 ,999 transaction.

22:35That seems suspicious, right? That was one of the ways that Eliot Spitzer, the former

22:39governor of New York, was flagged when he was caught engaging with a prostitute in

22:47New York, was that the transactions were trying to avoid the limits of $10 ,000.

22:54So you would see these withdrawals that were suspicious.

22:57And then that raised other red flags.

22:59So one of the things that we would see if we had the bank accounts

23:02is imagine what we've been able to kind of crowdsource already with all this data.

23:08Imagine if we had access to bank records and we could see who was paying

23:11who. We could see financial transactions.

23:14You know, what were their payments going to and from Mar -a -Lago?

23:17I mean, things like that should be accessible.

23:19And just transactions in general through the global network.

23:24There was billions of dollars exchanging hands through this child sex trafficking ring.

23:28Where are all those? Where are the FBI witness reports?

23:31Where are the interviews? Where are all these things?

23:33There's still so much that's missing.

23:34And here's how it was being reported.

23:37And of course, it's a UK paper that's reporting it, where they talked about how

23:43there was, you know, likely only 2 % of the documents that have been released

23:47so far. A new investigation examining email sent between federal investigators and prosecutors are raising

23:52fresh doubts over the Department of Justice's claim that it has released the full cache

23:57of Epstein files, suggesting that the material made public thus far is just 2 %

24:03of the data gathered by federal agents.

24:06UK -based broadcaster Channel 4 News reported that internal emails seen by its journalists show

24:11federal investigators expected to process between 20 and 40 terabytes of data seized from Epstein's

24:17properties, including his Florida mansion, New York townhouse, and private island.

24:21The broadcaster added that the emails between investigators discussed the data totaling up to 50

24:28terabytes from the earliest stages in June 2020.

24:31It's a lot of terabytes.

24:33I mean, that's again, hundreds of millions of documents that we've only seen 3 million.

24:37And we've known that what they're withholding is the most devastating.

24:40But what about all this other stuff too, that we now are learning about as

24:44well, where there could be 100 million documents being withheld.

24:48And as I've said, one of the grounds that they're using to withhold a lot

24:51of these other documents is they're claiming what's called a legal privilege, which is usually

24:56ruled on by a judge, whether you can assert a legal privilege or not.

25:00Deliberative process privilege, attorney -client privilege, executive privilege.

25:04Just think about it this way.

25:06Trump is adjudicating his own privilege claims for withholding records.

25:13Think about it. So you think they're going to turn over?

25:15Put it this way. What they turned over thus far...

25:18are is likely what they consider to be the most tame, the least incriminating stuff.

25:26They're holding back on privilege grounds all the internal memos and emails and lots of

25:32the witness interviews and a ton of other stuff, which is far worse.

25:36Just think about that. I mean, as we go to our first break, but no

25:42one was buying their fake list.

25:44People are livid. People are pissed.

25:47And it's not only that Trump has lost the culture, which we saw when you

25:52have like Obama getting standing ovations.

25:55Trump has lost most of his base.

25:59And as Brett, as you said, the floor that people thought for Trump was at

26:05that like 30 % range.

26:07And now that floor may be in the 20 % range as he continues to

26:12just, you know, it's, it's not just the Epstein coverup.

26:15I mean, on president's day, this is so perfectly symbolic of everything.

26:18I mean, posting that everybody's doing great, right?

26:22I mean, how tone deaf can you be happy president's day prices and inflation are

26:26way down the stock market.

26:28Your 401ks are way up.

26:30Our military strong and powerful law enforcement is great.

26:33The borders secure murders year 1900 and crime at record lows.

26:37And our country is bigger and stronger and better than ever before.

26:40Work hard, enjoy your day.

26:43DJT from the man who covers up child sex trafficking rings and builds himself golden

26:49ballrooms and golden arches and takes money from the Saudis and the Emiratis and the

26:55Qataris to his personal businesses.

26:58So then he gives our classified information to them while he talks about fake $12

27:03trillion deals with, with Russia, while our allies are all turning away from us.

27:08And so when we get back, I want to talk more about what we saw

27:12over the weekend with former president Obama, Clinton, Newsom, the Munich security conference, what we

27:19saw there and much more.

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31:06Benji, where to next, big bro?

31:08You have the video of the standing ovation that former President Obama got at the

31:13All -Star, NBA All -Star game over the weekend.

31:16Just show like 10 seconds from it if we've got it, Brent.

31:30You know, after Donald Trump posted images of former President Obama and former First Lady

31:35Michelle Obama with their faces on apes and then Donald Trump was asked if he

31:41was sorry for doing so and he said no.

31:44It sent a very powerful message about election fraud.

31:47That's what our demented person in the Oval Office who's covering up for child sex

31:51trafficking had to say. Former President Obama was asked about that by our friend Brian

31:57Tyler Cohen and now more than ever it's so important also for independent news to

32:02stick together and uplift each other.

32:04So shout out to the great interview that Brian Tyler Cohen did of former President

32:08Obama. But again, you saw someone in Obama here in this interview with dignity and

32:14class, you know, someone who's quite literally the exact opposite of Donald Trump.

32:21And so here is what former President Obama said in response to when he was

32:27asked about Trump's racist posts and Trump's behavior.

32:30Let's play. First of all, I think it's important to recognize that the.

32:35Majority of the American people find this behavior deeply troubling.

32:41You know, it is true that it gets attention.

32:45It's true that it's a distraction.

32:49But, you know, as I'm traveling around the country, as you're traveling around the country,

32:54you meet people. They still believe in decency, courtesy, kindness.

33:01And there's this sort of clown show that's happening in social media and on television.

33:11And what is true is that there doesn't seem to be any shame about this

33:17among people who used to feel like you had to have some sort of decorum

33:24and a sense of propriety.

33:30And respect for the office.

33:32Right. So that's been lost.

33:34But the reason I point out that I don't think the majority of the American

33:38people approve of this is because ultimately the answer is going to come from the

33:45American people. And we just saw this in Minnesota and Minneapolis.

33:50Just take a look at the post, too, from former First Lady Michelle Obama.

33:55My favorite teammates on and off the court is her with her family.

33:59You have former President Barack Obama on Valentine's Day posting celebrated Valentine's Day with my

34:06forever dance partner. Love you, Michi, Michelle.

34:10You know, again, this is that's who we are as as as Americans.

34:15I find there's such like a lightness when former President Obama is out there and

34:20speaking to the public and, you know, is doing the rounds like you're like, oh,

34:24yeah, that's what normal is like.

34:27That's what like an actual good human being is like.

34:30And I've always just found this, you know, I think it was maybe one of

34:33the first senses I've got that we were living in a completely different world from

34:37other people. And other people are just in a completely bizarro mindset about things when

34:43they would be like, oh, Barack Obama, the most divisive president ever.

34:48Like, in what world are you like?

34:51What are you even saying?

34:52And if you try to drill down on like the MAGA people who say this

34:55while they defend Donald Trump, they never have a good answer.

34:59They'll always and they'll usually end up like, oh, what he said about Trayvon Martin.

35:03Like, what did he say about Trayvon Martin?

35:05That was you're upset that he identified with somebody who was killed.

35:09Like, I can't even fathom these people's brains.

35:13And I think it was the first time I'm like, oh, a lot of the

35:15brains in this country are just completely broken out there.

35:19But it's great to see former President Obama back there.

35:22And kudos to our friend Brian Tyler Cohen for getting that interview and knocking it

35:26out of the park. Heck yeah.

35:28And look, it's going to be one of the things that like America at large

35:31is just going to have to grapple with as we go forward here.

35:33It's like, OK, look, you have folks like Obama, humility, dignity, you know, just someone

35:38who when you actually hear and see speak and just leader, like leadership, the first

35:45word that comes to my mind.

35:46And then you have someone like Donald Trump, who you just kind of scratch your

35:49heads is like, how did he even how did he get there?

35:53You know, and so as we go forward here as a society, I think it's

35:56going to be crucial that we just like take a step back.

36:01You know, I think the Midas Mighty already know this, but us as a country,

36:06take a step back and just see who we want to fill that position, the

36:12highest position in government. one of the most prestigious positions in government in the world

36:18and seeing what it's become right now is just such a shame and so it's

36:22been cool to see other leaders kind of stand up and start to show what

36:26that humility and dignity looks like again look there's a close connection though here with

36:31what we're seeing in the epstein files because there's an answer to your question jordy

36:36how did we get here with trump and it's not a chicken or the egg

36:41you know the epstein class or trump or trump or the epstein class right i

36:46mean it's pretty clear that trump is a vessel of the epstein class and one

36:52of the reasons that trump didn't want these documents coming out among many others is

36:57that he's a prop a disgusting demented prop but he is a proxy for the

37:04epstein class internationally epstein was a middleman you know how they would always like the

37:12deep state the this or the that epstein was a middleman of and talking about

37:17so much destruction that was going on behind the scenes deep state style while you

37:25had former president obama representing the ideals and values that defined america and alliances that

37:33defined liberal democracies post -world war ii you had that normalcy but underneath the surface

37:40as we look at what these emails are showing these epstein emails is that you

37:47had this group of oligarchs of epstein class individuals who were doing these things to

37:56cause massive destruction destruction destruction and in the panic and the frenzy that would ensue

38:06with things like brexit annexation of crimea trump's election all of these things are connected

38:13they feast and they steal and they take and they sex traffic and they hoard

38:20the money and they go and they go crazy and then crypto develops around this

38:27time period where all these insiders were also in on the value and talking you

38:32know and you have epstein talking about pitching crypto and all these things to you

38:36know to putin so it's actually behind the scenes they the epstein class are also

38:45creating things like q anon which is actually the type of stuff that they were

38:51involved in doing to sow the discord internationally and trump was their vessel in the

38:56us or bonds their vessel in hungary right javier malay is their vessel in argentina

39:02um you know la pen is their vessel in france nigel farage is their vessel

39:08in the uk and the reform party pierre poliev is their vessel in canada who

39:14was maple mag and was expected to win before canada saw exactly what was going

39:19down in the us after the trump election and reverse course you know they had

39:24timu trump in australia you know from their liberal party which is actually their conservative

39:29party to make it confusing for us over there um you know who was expected

39:33to win and then actually lost his own riding as well you you have this

39:38all across the world and that's we have to understand that that's what's actually it's

39:45a naive view for us to view trump as purely a a symptom of dome

39:52you domestic politics. That's a big mistake.

39:54And the Epstein files demonstrates what was really taking place behind the scenes.

39:59And I would add on to that too.

40:00I would say the one area where I disagree with what former president Obama was

40:04saying in that interview with, uh, with Brian is that yes, there are things that

40:10get attention when Donald Trump posts things like those horrific racist images about him, or

40:15when he posts like videos of him dropping feces on Americans or whatever.

40:20But to me, it's actually all a part of the same thread that you're talking

40:23about right now. And it's also just getting people to accept this sort of behavior

40:28and accept really any behavior.

40:30If you could get people to defend the indefensible, when it comes to these silly

40:34posts, then you could start to get people to defend all these things that you're

40:38speaking about, uplifting autocrats across the world, right?

40:40You start tearing down that wall of people's kind of, uh, where people would normally

40:45have shame. And all of a sudden you get people like Marco Rubio going to

40:49Victor Orban and going, we're going to support you no matter what we got your

40:53back. We're going to make sure you have all the resources you need.

40:56Victor Orban. This was a guy who a few years ago, Marco Rubio was very

41:00anti Victor Orban and actually spoke out against Trump in regards to Victor Orban said

41:05that he was anti -democracy said that he posed a threat to the region.

41:09But now you have Marco Rubio, a guy who goes in and he, you know,

41:12he's just all, all about Victor Orban now.

41:14And to me, all of these pieces are connected.

41:16It goes back to that Voltaire quote that I've said on this show before, which

41:20is those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

41:23And I think that applies here to Donald Trump's ridiculous posts.

41:27They're kind of more than meets the eye there, right?

41:30They are like a, they are like a test in a way.

41:32They are like a humiliation ritual for his own supporters.

41:36You're not going to follow this.

41:37Oh no, you're going to follow this.

41:38You're going to support this.

41:39You're actually going to say good things about this.

41:41And then you're going to say good things about when I try to take over

41:44Greenland, you're going to support that as well.

41:46And it just escalates and snowballs and snowballs.

41:49And it's, it's also bred to that end.

41:51Look, it's a trillion dollar, it's a trillion dollar operation right now.

41:55That's just melting the minds of Americans at large.

41:57It's melting the world's minds, but you know, sticking here in America, it's really scary

42:02when you think about the algorithms and the social media platforms and who controls those

42:06algorithms and platforms. It's one of the fights that we're actively, we, the collective us

42:11are all actively fighting now and will continue to fight.

42:15I think it will be a defining moment in this country's history.

42:20And it will be interesting.

42:22Interesting is not really the right word.

42:24It will be dire to see ultimately how this fight against the algorithms unfolds over

42:30the next 10, 15, and 25 years specifically here because there's some scary stuff, man.

42:37You know, you, you get a whole entire class of, of MAGA folk out there

42:40believing in QAnon, like we saw back in 2020 and sort of how that came

42:43to be. And it just, it, it's defined our politics now for quite some time.

42:48And it's hard to get people out of the algorithms once they're so deeply embedded.

42:51I mean, it's beamed into your phone.

42:53It's beamed right into your eyes.

42:54There's no taking any breaks from it and seeing who controls those algorithms on a

42:58day in and day out basis.

42:59It should terrify everybody. Here's the thing, right?

43:01Every conspiracy has a kernel in truth.

43:03The thing about QAnon is that it was real.

43:05It was just the Epstein class that was doing it.

43:08And they were projecting it on their enemies, like the pizza stuff.

43:11All they were the ones doing it.

43:13Like the playbook is in the Epstein files of what they were doing to cover

43:18up their own sex trafficking, which was their currency also for world domination and world

43:24destruction. And I'm not saying that in a conspiratorial way.

43:27I mean, there were all the messages basically saying, Hey, you know, we're putting.

43:30about to go after Crimea.

43:32Massive opportunities there for us to make money.

43:35And hey, they were meticulously, how do we take down Pope Francis?

43:39How do we hoist up Jair Bolsonaro?

43:41These were the leaders of countries, kings, queens, presidents, heads of state, national security, all

43:47speaking with Epstein. And he was helping coordinate this in the emails.

43:51You can actually see it.

43:52And just to show you even right now, though, the question is, there are lots

43:56of Jeffrey Epstein's among us right now.

43:58Just think about that, right?

43:59Right now, there are people like that who are doing that job, right?

44:03You know, like when a cartel leader gets killed, a new person fills the role,

44:07right? Like El Chapo gets removed and they got El Mancho and this guy and

44:10that guy, right? There are other people who are doing that role right now who

44:14are being covered for by the fact that Trump's gutted his DOJ.

44:18We don't have law enforcement.

44:19We have Tulsi Gabbard running the, is the director of national intelligence.

44:23So this network right now, as we speak, is stronger than ever because all these

44:28people are being connected, you know, like it's going on right now.

44:32And that's part of what Rubio's trip is when he was, when he's in Hungary

44:36right now, after being in Munich.

44:39First, he was in Munich for the Munich conference.

44:41Now he's in Hungary and he's there telling Orban, I got your back.

44:45But that's, I want people to know it's also more than just Orban's back.

44:49It's part of this Epstein class world order that's taking place.

44:53I know I sound like world order.

44:56That's what's actually happening. There's no other way to look at it, but that's truthfully

45:00what is going on. I mean, they're basically even saying it out loud, right?

45:02They're saying it out loud.

45:02It's a new world order.

45:04Like these are all the things that all these MAGA people like warned about, right?

45:07This was what they said.

45:08They were like, oh, there's going to be these leaders at the World Economic Forum.

45:11They want a new world order.

45:12They want, that's exactly what they decided that they were going to do the second

45:16they took power. I'll show you the receipts here.

45:18First, Rubio in Hungary. Let's play that clip.

45:21It is the kind of thing that I think, for example, I can say to

45:24you with confidence that President Trump is deeply committed to your success because your success

45:29is our success. Because this relationship we have here in Central Europe through you is

45:34so essential and vital for our national interests in the years to come.

45:38Just think about if he was saying that to Canada, that would make sense.

45:41If he was saying that, he's saying that to Orban, who's trying to undermine the

45:45European Union as a Putin bootlicker, Brett.

45:47I just want to show you this also.

45:48So I dug up this letter from Rubio in 2019 and surprise, surprise, it says

45:53a very different thing, a very different attitude towards Orban and Hungary in this 2019

45:57letter that Marco Rubio wrote as a senator to Donald Trump.

46:00I'll just read you the beginning of it.

46:01Dear Mr. President, this is to Trump.

46:03We are writing in advance of your scheduled meeting with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban

46:07to express concern about Hungary's downward democratic trajectory and the implications for US interests in

46:13Central Europe. We urge you to raise these issues in your meeting with the prime

46:17minister. In recent years, democracy in Hungary has significantly eroded.

46:21And then it goes on and on and on about Hungary's steady corrosion of freedom,

46:24the rule of law, quality of governance, and it continues.

46:28But it just shows you, and this is part of what I was saying before,

46:31how these people are now all in, right?

46:34People who were even against Trump on these things.

46:37Not 2019 wasn't that long ago.

46:39Now they completely flip their positions because Trump has conditioned them to completely put aside

46:44any sort of shame and just to be complete and total lackeys to this autocratic

46:49movement, not just in the United States, but across the entire world.

46:52Here's Rubio at the Munich conference talking about how naive it was to view that

46:58the old world order could exist and that there could be multilateralism.

47:03That was, the US was the leader, you freaking moron of that.

47:07That's why, that's what made.

47:09the u .s the most powerful nation in the world but go on rubio here's

47:13what rubio said but the euphoria of this triumph led us to a dangerous delusion

47:19that we had entered quote the end of history that every nation would now be

47:24a liberal democracy that the ties formed by trade and by commerce alone would now

47:31replace nationhood that the rules -based global order an overused term would now replace the

47:37national interest and that we would now live in a world without borders where everyone

47:42became a citizen of the world this was a foolish idea that ignored both human

47:49nature and it ignored the lessons of over 5 000 years of recorded human history

47:54the lessons of 5 000 years of recorded human history is what almost brought the

47:58world to total annihilation in world war ii you freaking idiot with nuclear weapons and

48:04mutually assured destruction so yes indeed we deal we did try to build structures to

48:11avoid that because you go back 5 000 years where it was often the law

48:16of the strong and you had authoritarians killing people massacring people we wanted to try

48:22to aspire aspirationally for something better yes with rules with a rules -based order so

48:30we could try to figure out and have predictability and not be in a perpetual

48:36state of war you freaking idiot and now with the trump regime in this orwellian

48:41war is peace peace is war ignorance is strength here you are again now creating

48:48more nuclear arms races you've now weakened the united states irreparably as we saw what

48:54went down in that munich conference and you've hoisted up people like vladimir putin whose

49:00entire nation has a two trillion dollar gdp which is nowhere near even like canada

49:06you know it's like the same gdp as is italy you know and you've hoisted

49:10this guy up and you said okay the new structures are the world is governed

49:14by these powers and inevitably just going to war with each other and the united

49:19states being subservient to putin it's the most ridiculous thing imaginable so anyway but you

49:23hear how they're talking about things and again don't divorce that from the epstein stuff

49:28it's all related because embedded in the epstein stuff was the exact vision you heard

49:35from rubio just there which was not rubio's vision in 2019 rubio is giving you

49:42epstein talking points right there that's epstein class talking points 101 when you read the

49:47files that's what that is right there we're gonna take our last quick break of

49:51the show when we come back though i want to show with you i want

49:54to show you what else went down at that munich conference i want to show

49:57you what leo what real leadership looks like john ossoff giving an incredible speech as

50:02well newsom giving an incredible speech at in munich talk more about that a reminder

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56:02Sorry, I was getting caught up in the way I was saying truth in that

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56:31Definitely. Absolutely. Definitely. Good point.

56:34Benji, where to next? I was with the family at Disneyland this week and I

56:39ran into so many Midas Mighty out there.

56:41So I told everybody I'd give them a shout out.

56:43So shout out to all the people in Disneyland.

56:45It was great seeing y 'all.

56:47And for everybody who's wondering why I have this cut on my nose, I was,

56:51I had put away the Christmas tree in the garage.

56:55Lots of comments about the nose.

56:56In the garage, lots of comments about the nose.

56:58I put it in the garage and then I tried to put it up myself

57:01today in the attic because mom's going to visit.

57:04And then I cut myself while I was doing it.

57:06So that's. Wait, wait, you're putting the Christmas tree away right now?

57:09No, no. It was already in the garage, but I wanted to move it from

57:12the garage all the way up to the attic.

57:13I was going to like Christmas tree putting away, shame you.

57:18It's already been away and it's in the corner of the garage, but I want

57:20to create room in the garage.

57:21So I moved it to the attic and then got it.

57:23So you got in a fight with the Christmas tree and it seems like the

57:25Christmas tree won. Exactly. All right.

57:27Let's talk about John Ossoff running a pitch perfect campaign for that Senate scene in

57:33Georgia. He's up for reelection.

57:35Really every aspect of this race has just, you know, has just screamed presidential presidential,

57:42right? And, you know, he's running for reelection of the Senate.

57:46So it's hard to think forward, you know, to 2028 versus other people who we

57:50think of that. And also, you know, that's a, that's a seat that I think

57:53needs to be kept democratic.

57:55And he's one of the only people who could probably keep that seat.

57:58And he's been such a good Senator there.

57:59But when I watched his speech today on president's day, also talk about how these

58:03magas deep. base themselves into levels of humiliation, and then they're basically captured in the

58:08cult once they do that.

58:10Brett, it was exactly what you were talking about before.

58:12When a Rubio is broken to say the election was stolen, you can't then basically

58:18be like, I was wrong, right?

58:19When you've lied and you've debased yourself, you've already put yourself in such an area

58:24of debasement that you can't escape the cult.

58:28You've trapped yourself, and this is who you are.

58:32It defines you. But again, just watch this speech.

58:35I was thinking to myself, man, this guy looks like the president of the United

58:37States. Here, play this clip.

58:39First, I will affirm what you can all clearly see.

58:45You can see it, right?

58:49Our nation is afflicted and in crisis.

58:55Americans losing insurance in the middle of chemo.

58:59Hospitals closing down services to fund tax cuts for the very wealthiest people.

59:07Masked federal agents profiling, brutalizing, and killing American citizens.

59:15And maybe amidst all the cruelty and the chaos, you start to feel a little

59:22doubt, and you start to wonder whether our republic can survive it.

59:28A government transformed into a tool of one man's vengeance and enrichment.

59:36A spiritually broken president who digs the moral pit deeper and deeper.

59:46whatever. But Pastor Proverbs says, whoever digs a pit, whoever digs a pit will fall

1:00:01into it. And scriptures full of kings brought low by their own arrogance.

1:00:11Ahab surrounded himself with 400 yes -men, false prophets paid to affirm the king's delusions.

1:00:20And those delusions led him to his defeat.

1:00:24And among today's false prophets are the election deniers who indulge this president's obsession with

1:00:33overturning the 2020 election. Now hear me when I say this.

1:00:41They tell a lie so absurd and therefore so debasing to tell that the act

1:00:50of telling it proves the teller's total and humiliating submission.

1:00:55Powerful words right there. Now let me show you another likely presidential candidate, Governor Newsom

1:01:02in Munich. Let's play this clip of Newsom.

1:01:04Temporary. It's temporary. MAGA will not survive past Donald Trump.

1:01:09He's a cult of personality.

1:01:12I said invasive species. Some of you may not know what the hell I'm talking

1:01:16about. But he took over this Republican Party.

1:01:20You made the point. That old Republican Party, some of them are here.

1:01:25I mean, none of us recognize him.

1:01:28They don't recognize themselves. They don't recognize themselves.

1:01:31I mean, Rubio doesn't recognize himself.

1:01:35He was one of the most effective critics of Donald Trump in the United States

1:01:39of America. Yeah. He should rewatch his old video.

1:01:42videos. He was right. Lindsey Graham was right.

1:01:47This is temporary. Then you have Hillary Clinton at the Munich conference.

1:01:55Of course, she ran against Donald Trump in 2016.

1:01:59And here's a clip where she talks about, you know, how Trump has betrayed the

1:02:05West. It's a betrayal of human values.

1:02:08And at this conference, they put some right -wing guy on there who, you know,

1:02:12I'll show you in a moment because I think it connects.

1:02:17I think it connects to what I was saying.

1:02:20It's the Kevin Shroff clip, Brett, the Kevin Shroff clip of Hillary Clinton spanks obnoxious

1:02:25far -right troll at international conference and calls up Trump's betrayal of values if we've

1:02:32got that clip that we can call.

1:02:34Let me pull it. All right.

1:02:36You can pull it up in a little bit.

1:02:38In the meantime, I'm going to show us what some of the other people were

1:02:42saying at this conference. Let's talk about what Kahe Kalas, who's the foreign policy chief.

1:02:51She used to be the prime minister of Estonia.

1:02:54And she's like the number two right now in the European Union.

1:02:57And she was giving some standing up to the Trump regime.

1:03:02And she said, we don't need to be lectured by the United States right now.

1:03:06Coming from a country that is number two, us, we don't need to hear criticism

1:03:10regarding press freedom from you.

1:03:12Let's play that clip. You know, coming from a country that is number two in

1:03:17the press freedom index, hearing criticism regarding press freedom coming from a country that is

1:03:2358 on this list, it's interesting.

1:03:26What about Greenland's prime minister, Johns Friedrich Nielsen?

1:03:30Here's what Greenland's prime minister had to say.

1:03:34I think we got that clip.

1:03:36And if not, let's play the clip of Denmark.

1:03:39Talking about defense. How likely is it that you're going to have to defend Greenland?

1:03:47So nice to be on stage with you.

1:03:51Thank you. And nice to be with my allies and my friends and my partners.

1:03:56Well, let me put it this way.

1:03:58I mean, if one NATO country attacks another NATO country, then NATO ends.

1:04:03It's game over. Then it's game over.

1:04:05So I hope I answer your question by that.

1:04:08Yeah. And that's what we were seeing throughout the conference as well.

1:04:11I think we have the other clip, though, of Hillary Clinton talking about the Epstein

1:04:14files here. Let's play this clip.

1:04:16I heard three in particular to the last question.

1:04:20It's horrifying. And we're hoping that, you know, there will be continued release every day

1:04:27that passes. You know, that doesn't mean, as our news commentators say every day in

1:04:33the United States, it's because someone's name is there, they committed a crime.

1:04:36But I think there's a lot of very troubling and really horrific information coming out.

1:04:42Today, it came out that Steve Bannon was trying to get Jeffrey Epstein to help

1:04:47him overthrow Pope Francis. I guess that was part of the civilizational...

1:04:51Conservative, true conservatism. True conservatism.

1:04:54So it is something that, you know, needs to be totally transparent.

1:04:59I've called for, you know, many, many years for everything to be put out there

1:05:04so people can not only see what is in them, but also, if appropriate, hold

1:05:11people accountable. We'll see what happens.

1:05:12So that's what was going on in Munich.

1:05:15The other clip was the prime minister of Denmark, not the prime minister of Britain,

1:05:19but we also have the prime...

1:05:21Minister of Greenland speaking as well.

1:05:22But Brett and Jordy just wanted to reflect on what was going down there in

1:05:27Munich as you saw world leaders step up, as you saw Newsom again kind of

1:05:32continuing this role as the kind of shadow president.

1:05:35What do you make of it all?

1:05:36Well, I think you're seeing more and more now, and we saw this in Davos

1:05:40a few weeks back, that world leaders aren't, you know, I don't think they ever

1:05:45bought what Trump was selling here.

1:05:47So speaking about leaders in the actual like the free world, the democratic world, but

1:05:52they weren't quite sure how to deal with Donald Trump for a long time.

1:05:56And a lot of them were placating him and just kind of letting him do

1:06:00what he wants. But I think now you're seeing a difference.

1:06:03You're seeing them not only stand up to Trump, but in so many of these

1:06:07situations openly mock Trump and laugh at Trump and his entire ideology.

1:06:12And I think that is kind of a powerful statement that we're now seeing on

1:06:16the global stage. And I think in this vacuum of leadership, the United States not

1:06:21having a leader of the free world anymore, it is giving an opportunity for other

1:06:26people to go there and just to use their voices and to define what American

1:06:31values actually are. And I think that's what we saw Governor Newsom do over there.

1:06:35We saw AOC in Munich speaking.

1:06:38I think it gave her an opportunity to do that.

1:06:40And I think we're starting to see now, you know, with John Ossoff and others,

1:06:44there's kind of a new crop of leaders emerge of folks who actually want to

1:06:48defend liberal democracy, small L liberal democracy around the world and are actually putting forth

1:06:54what actual values of freedom and liberty mean.

1:06:57Absolutely. And that's exactly what I was alluding to earlier when I was talking about,

1:07:01you know, leaders are starting to sort of make themselves known if they hadn't already.

1:07:06And that's in their humility and their dignity and really just the maturation of who

1:07:11should actually be in that position.

1:07:14Ultimately, the president of the United States, when you hear AOC, when you hear Ossoff,

1:07:18when you hear Newsom, when you hear someone that is willing to just set like

1:07:23present themselves like these things need to be presented.

1:07:28You know, I know that might sound simple, but at a time when you see

1:07:32a total madman, Donald Trump rage posting and just truly, you know, making the office

1:07:39of the president of the United States like so lowly regarded by the way he

1:07:44acts on a day to day basis, you need adults in the room.

1:07:48And so I myself am sort of just looking around personally.

1:07:52I'm going to be like, who are those adults?

1:07:54Who are those folks that are going to step up and actually try and regain

1:07:58some some sort of prestige around an office that needs it so desperately, Ben?

1:08:04Here is the clip. We were able to pull it up of former Secretary of

1:08:08State Hillary Clinton. I want to show her clip.

1:08:11And then if we're able to pull it, I want to show this far right

1:08:14wing minister of Czechoslovakia who's out there using the playbook that I talked about before

1:08:19of kind of division and dividing.

1:08:22So watch because this is the battle that's taking place at a macro level.

1:08:26OK, here's what Hillary Clinton said.

1:08:28Let's play. He has betrayed the West.

1:08:32He's betrayed human values. He's betrayed the NATO charter, the Atlantic charter, the Universal Declaration

1:08:40of Human Rights. A lot of what has been done before to try to make

1:08:44sense of how difficult it is to restrain people who want unaccountable power.

1:08:51And none of us in this room, including all of us on this panel, would

1:08:55choose to live under a regime that was so unaccountable that it could act with.

1:08:59impunity the way that putin does except that's who trump is modeling himself well uh

1:09:06first i think you really don't like him you know that is absolutely true but

1:09:11i really not only do i not like him i don't like him because of

1:09:16what he's doing to the united states and the world and i think you should

1:09:19take a hard look at it if you think that there is something good that

1:09:22will come out of it well let's listen to what the debate is here because

1:09:26this is what's this is the macro issue that we need to be focused on

1:09:30right the epstein class division playbook what do you think he's going to talk about

1:09:36the same the two genders and woke right and then and what she's talking about

1:09:44is actually your freedoms and your liberty and your ability to exist in peace this

1:09:50is what's taking place at a macro level watch the far right wing deputy prime

1:09:55minister petro makinica of check what he said here play this clip we saw the

1:09:59the cancel culture that's that we saw the the woke revolution we we don't i

1:10:06don't agree with the gender revolution the climate alarmism which gender women having their rights

1:10:11no let peter go on i think there are two genders so but but some

1:10:17of some of us some of us some of us uh think that there is

1:10:21more than one or more than two sorry more than two genders okay but did

1:10:24you see what the moderator did there which i thought is deeply problematic let peter

1:10:29speak let him speak uh okay spewing nonsense though right i mean so the so

1:10:37they're given her views and then he's just spewing like and the way he did

1:10:42it too was like the greatest hits of mega right -wing division which is a

1:10:47broader right -wing authoritarian sweep to divide people i believe there are two genders and

1:10:53i believe woke and cancel culture and all the cancel culture you want to know

1:10:57what cancel culture is vladimir putin killing his political enemies that that's cancel culture or

1:11:02how that manifests in the united states donald trump going after universities creating a list

1:11:07which says if you're in the military this was just past week we won't fund

1:11:10you if you go to these types of schools and it's like mit and it's

1:11:15like all the like top schools if you want to talk about cancel culture it's

1:11:18donald trump using the government to go after and attack senators and congress members who

1:11:23give restatements of the law and attacking his political enemies so it's all nonsense but

1:11:28it's the same playbook that we see in right -wing regimes across the country and

1:11:33what you saw on stage there was that one point i'll make then i'm going

1:11:36to throw it over to you brett before i have to go but then i

1:11:38want to throw it over to you which is canada has been in the center

1:11:43though of brokering what is a stable world order in contrast to this and literally

1:11:49canada's position kind of in the middle of the trans -pacific partnership and the trans

1:11:55-atlantic partnership it's like a bridge like do you remember as a kid i play

1:12:00with my little daughter connect the dots right the dots are being connected with the

1:12:05u .s being isolated and canada serving as a bridge between a trans -pacific partnership

1:12:11of asian countries and the european union that's what's taking place right now so with

1:12:16that said um let me toss it over to you brett and jordy yeah and

1:12:21you know i also want to talk about this idea of what that guy was

1:12:24saying there you know where he talks about cancel culture this and you know using

1:12:28all these terms once again going back to the strategies of this epstein class they

1:12:33are always trying to use the arguments that are actually things that they are doing.

1:12:39So Ben gave some examples before, but there are even some more in -your -face

1:12:42examples that we've learned about within like the last 24 hours or so.

1:12:47One of these is that the Department of Homeland Security issued these administrative warrants about

1:12:53ICE, and they issued them to all these big tech social media companies.

1:12:58So Google, Meta, Reddit, Discord.

1:13:01And they said, what we want you to do is let us know anybody on

1:13:05your platforms if they are speaking badly about ICE, if they're criticizing ICE, if they're

1:13:11tracking ICE's movements. We want to know exactly who those people are.

1:13:16We want to know their phone numbers.

1:13:17We want to know their addresses, their IP logs.

1:13:20Give us all of their data.

1:13:22And we're learning that these organizations, some of them complied to at least a certain

1:13:26extent, Reddit, Google, Meta, Discord, giving this information over.

1:13:30And these weren't even like legitimate warrants.

1:13:32These weren't warrants signed off by an actual judge.

1:13:35These are internal administrative warrants, which are signed off by the Department of Homeland Security.

1:13:41So they give themselves whatever authority, whatever the hell authority they want.

1:13:44And I think back now, you know, remember the Twitter files, Geordi?

1:13:48Remember, you know, when these kind of right -wing journalists and Barry Weiss was a

1:13:52big part of it, they were like, we're going to expose how Twitter was working

1:13:56with the Biden administration to suppress right -wing voices.

1:13:59And it was all bullshit.

1:14:01Remember all that, that Zuckerberg kind of world tour where he went on Rogan and

1:14:05he was like all bro'd out.

1:14:07And he was talking about the need, oh, we got to need masculinity at the

1:14:10office. That's what we need, right?

1:14:11We need masculinity. And my big, and he was like, my biggest regret was, you

1:14:16know, when the Biden administration would ask us, you know, if there was disinformation about

1:14:20COVID and I would, you know, I would, I would tell them yes.

1:14:23And I, I wish we never actually told them that there was disinformation on our

1:14:27platforms and that people could say whatever they want.

1:14:29Like they didn't even like take any like real actions there, but that was like

1:14:32the biggest scandal of the right, right?

1:14:34That was like the biggest thing.

1:14:36And that's why Zuckerberg did that whole apology tour.

1:14:38And all these people now are freaking silent.

1:14:41And Zuckerberg, meanwhile, is now a guy at Meta who is giving over this actually

1:14:46intrusive information to the Trump regime so that the Trump regime can track people.

1:14:52I'm not sure if you guys also saw this story about Anthropic, which is one

1:14:55of these big AI companies.

1:14:58Anthropic basically said, you know, we don't want our artificial intelligence to be used to

1:15:05spy on the American people.

1:15:06That was their request. We don't want it to be used.

1:15:09So what is the Pentagon doing and the Trump regime doing?

1:15:11They are threatening Anthropic and they are now designating or they're threatening to designate the

1:15:18AI company as a supply chain risk, which would mean anyone who wants to do

1:15:22business with the US military has to cut ties with Anthropic.

1:15:27They can't be working with Anthropic because they're saying they're a threat because they won't

1:15:30let their technology be used to spy on the American people.

1:15:34So once again, this is all the stuff that they accused the other side of,

1:15:38but then they're engaging in it in such a brazen, illegal, horrific way that truly

1:15:45intrudes on the rights of the American people.

1:15:48And all those people who pretended that these were their issues that they cared about

1:15:52and are just silent now.

1:15:53And not only silent, but they're active participants in doing the thing that they previously

1:15:59said, oh, I shouldn't have done that or whatever it is.

1:16:01It's like, screw you. This is happening in plain sight.

1:16:04Exactly. And it goes back to the point that I was making earlier here too,

1:16:07is with all these social media platforms, just look at the bros, you know, so

1:16:12silly. Look at the, you know, but, but, but look at them.

1:16:15Look, look who controls. these platforms i mean it it will be a defining moment

1:16:20in this country's history as far as how we as a country deal with this

1:16:26you know are we going to let further and further generations fall you know privy

1:16:30and susceptible just like a misinformation you know non -stop just beamed into people's eyes

1:16:35or is there going to be some sort of antidote to that are people going

1:16:37to push back and sort of demand accountability it's it's truly petrifying you know i

1:16:44i i think back to when zuckerberg was at that lunch with uh with trump

1:16:48and he was just like shaking sitting next to him after he gave some sort

1:16:51of answer and then he looked at trump and he's tried to whisper under his

1:16:54breath did i say the right number for you sir was that was was that

1:16:57what you wanted me to say and that to me just tells it all that

1:17:00that's the entire game right there is are we going to be a country that's

1:17:05defined by the zuckerbergs of this world who are just petrified of the donald trump's

1:17:12or or not and lead us down a country in a pathway in a future

1:17:16here where true information unvarnished truth isn't getting to the american people because of how

1:17:25these billionaires like to control the algorithms it it's scary on so many levels of

1:17:31of not just our generation better or the folks older than us but but but

1:17:34our younger generations our children our children should like i don't know necessarily the solve

1:17:40and i hate that that i could say that here as an answer but i

1:17:44do know this it starts with each and every one of us here in this

1:17:47community continuing to demand the truth and and demand accountability and so i just you

1:17:53know wanted to use these last bits of the podcast here to say thank you

1:17:56thank you to the viewers and listeners of this show who are constantly demanding information

1:18:00demanding receipts and demanding that the truth gets out there using whatever platforms you have

1:18:05using your families to have those conversations in your circles where wherever you are it

1:18:10truly means the world because it feels like we are up against the biggest disinformation

1:18:14algorithm that this country's ever faced and jordi to your point like and then think

1:18:20about the people that i just mentioned before that were active uh participants and and

1:18:25complicit in uh turning over this information of american citizens to the united states government

1:18:30and now i want to bring it full circle now to what we're speaking about

1:18:34with this epstein class and the way that epstein act acted as an intermediary between

1:18:39all of these dark forces and the billionaires and those trying to kind of overthrow

1:18:42governments and all these pieces i want to remind everybody of this image that jeffrey

1:18:46epstein apparently took this is uh from in his inbox and this is an image

1:18:50of jeffrey epstein with a lot of these tech moguls this is from august 2015

1:18:56a dinner and you could see in this photo in the back there is elon

1:19:00musk to the left is uh zuckerberg and his wife in the very back there

1:19:04is also the head of google so you see right now all of these people

1:19:09sitting in this dark room i mean this picture jordi couldn't look any more ominous

1:19:12right like it was like and and you know probably speaking about how they're going

1:19:17to kind of carve up the world and how they're going to use their platforms

1:19:20to manipulate people like you got you got to assume that they're speaking about high

1:19:24level things like that in this room and epstein was a key coordinator and a

1:19:28key part of all of this with all of these folks so you wonder yeah

1:19:31these people you know are like what's going on here i i think you just

1:19:35you look at that photo and you're like oh i i kind of see uh

1:19:38you know what's happening there's one more thing before we go i do want to

1:19:42just show uh vladimir zelensky president of ukraine um zelensky uh at munich he was

1:19:49speaking about the fact that russia um keeps making all these demands of concessions of

1:19:54ukraine to end the invasion, and the United States keeps going along with whatever the

1:19:59hell Russia says. You know, Ukraine needs to give away land, Ukraine needs to hold

1:20:05elections the middle of this invasion, yada, yada, yada.

1:20:08So Zelensky's like, Europe isn't even at the table.

1:20:10Like, you're not even letting, you're just taking Russia's side, and you're not even letting

1:20:15Europe be involved in European issues.

1:20:18Watch what Zelensky had to say.

1:20:20The Americans often return to the topic of concessions, and too often those concessions are

1:20:28discussed in the context only of Ukraine, not Russia.

1:20:34Europe is practically, practically not present at the table.

1:20:39It's a big mistake to my mind, and it is, we, I think we Ukrainians,

1:20:48we Ukrainians who are trying to bring Europe fully into the process so that Europe's

1:20:54interests and voice are taken into account.

1:20:57And then I want to show you what Zelensky had to say about this idea

1:21:01that they should have elections.

1:21:02It's a big Russian talking point, that Ukraine should drop everything right now and have

1:21:06elections because they want to try to oust Zelensky.

1:21:09Here's what Zelensky had to say.

1:21:11Secretary General, even - But we can also give ceasefire for Russians if they will

1:21:16do elections in Russia. We'll give you a ceasefire, Putin, if you do elections in

1:21:24your own country, too. You know, I think that really sums up, you know, the

1:21:28duality of the world right now and a lot of the things that Ben was

1:21:32saying, that there is this path forward of liberal democracy and the free world and

1:21:37that kind of world order that, you know, while imperfect, was responsible for a great

1:21:45deal of peace in the world and the strength of human rights and democratic values.

1:21:50And then we have on the other side, this bizarre, weird, deranged and dangerous authoritarian

1:21:56strain led by people like Trump and Viktor Orban and all of these other folks.

1:22:03And so I think that, you know, you see both sides of it right here.

1:22:07We're going to continue to call this out.

1:22:08And I think it's important always that we speak about this, not just in a

1:22:13kind of United States -centric fashion, but show you how this is a worldwide phenomenon

1:22:19and how all of these people are intertwined.

1:22:22And the Epstein story is actually a way to kind of bind it all together

1:22:27and tell the story because he was such a middleman between all of these dark

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