Hour 1 - Stealing American Citizenship
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3:05Oh, my. Got some big stuff to get into.
3:08First up here, the Trump administration, the president, is threatening to pull out of NATO.
3:16Going to be giving a speech tonight at 9 o 'clock, addressing the nation about
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3:24And I am sure, I think everyone is sure, he is going to have some
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3:31And we shall give you some of those details of where that all stands.
3:35Updates, of course, on the ongoing Iran air war.
3:40It's really what this is.
3:41So we'll discuss that with you in detail.
3:44But Clay and I both spent the morning drinking our Crockett coffee.
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4:49So it was that part that I was like, and by the way, this is
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5:24your april fools jokes i saw your tweet it is true you got got already
5:29so many people are getting got ai and plus a lot of credulous people there
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5:40hear all day now this is not an april fools so we can get back
5:46into this now i'm giving you we're in an april fools free session for a
5:50moment here because as we're drinking our crack of coffee this morning we're listening to
5:54the supreme court oral arguments on this birthright citizenship case and clay there's a lot
6:02going on here to me i know you listen i was listening here is the
6:08at least the crux of the argument for me was put out by u .s
6:12solicitor general john sawyer and responded to by john roberts this is a little less
6:19than a minute long but i want you to hear this was just argued uh
6:22you know in the last hour or so earlier this morning supreme court play cut
6:28one the media reports indicate estimates could be over one a million or 1 .5
6:33million from the people's republic of china alone the the congressional report that we cited
6:38in our brief talks about certain hot spots like russian elites coming to miami through
6:42these tourism companies and i mean here's here's here's the fact about it that i
6:47think is striking media reported as early as 2015 that based on chinese media reports
6:52there are 500 500 birth tourism companies in the people's republic of china whose what
6:59business is to bring people here to give birth and return to to that nation
7:04and chief justice john roberts responded that it's a new world but it's the same
7:13constitution and you say to yourself okay hold on a second so so clay the
7:19solicitor general lays out here that there are 8 billion people in the world and
7:24it's really easy to come to america and there is a systematic scamming of american
7:29citizenship that is going on at scale today just with chinese birth tourism alone we're
7:34not even talking about anchor babies coming across the border and all that and the
7:38response of john roberts is basically yeah man times change they're as american as apple
7:43pie you grew up in beijing for 18 years you apply to ucla when you're
7:47an adult you're not just getting in -state tuition you're an american as american as
7:53you me and every american listening right now i just think that's an untenable position
7:58but that may be where the supreme court's going i got so many thoughts on
8:02this um and i i cranked up the television um and i just tweeted some
8:09of them out if you want to go read it uh but obviously um to
8:14me let's start with the guy's voice he cannot be the solicitor general and look
8:20i'm i'm saying this as a lawyer he may be a brilliant legal mind as
8:24i watched this argument play out buck and you just heard it a little bit
8:29the number one job of an oral advocate is to be an elite oral advocate
8:34his voice is awful and so much of you know this but i think this
8:40is important so much because you don't have cameras in the courtroom almost all of
8:45this is going to spread now on social media in the marketplace of ideas there's
8:50going to be a bunch of clips all of the justices were crisp articulate you
8:56may not agree with them but their voices sounded and were completely intelligible this guy
9:02the u .s solicitor general sour uh is it sour or sawyer i don't know
9:06how it's pronounced s -a -u -e -r i mean it was sig sig sour
9:10would be the gun company so i'd say sour is a good choice uh that
9:14sour you couldn't understand him at all um and uh i think this given that
9:19president trump is elite when it comes to communication i'm stunned that this guy is
9:24the advocate for this policy now that is on the pure optics the way that
9:29the argument gets out the law basically here buck what they're debating is what did
9:36congressmen and women in 1868 that have been dead for 150 years intend when it
9:45came to addressing citizenship in the 14th amendment for a situation that they never could
9:51have conceived of in a modern day birth tourism all of these different things i
9:58think and i want all of you to prepare yourselves for this i think the
10:01supreme court is going to say president trump doesn't have the executive order authority to
10:05be able to enforce this interpretation of the 14th amendment unfortunately buck i think this
10:11is going to enshrine birthright citizenship as a constitutional right to and again there's two
10:17different types there's birth there's citizenship by your parents and there's by soil what is
10:23the issue here is by soil in other words if you cross over the border
10:27and have a baby in texas from mexico your kid is just as american as
10:31anybody out there who's been in this country for hundreds of years and has both
10:35parents born here buck my big issue is this is actually going to make birthright
10:40citizenship worse because now all those 500 companies that sour was citing are going to
10:47say the u .s supreme court has said this is the law and the land
10:50get into the united states by any means possible pregnant women have a baby there
10:56your kids are citizens just like you and me for the rest of their life
11:00here's the ultimate indictment though buck and this is a lot of people are not
11:03going to focus on this congress can't fix it everybody's going to blame the supreme
11:09court they're trying to apply an 1868 law based on an executive argument made by
11:14president trump that is novel president trump is trying to solve the issue because he
11:19knows congress can't well they won't i'm not sure they choose not to right i
11:25mean they clearly have the power to they could even do a constitutional amendment if
11:30they wanted to but they don't because democrats ultimately are across the board every democrat
11:36it is a it is an article of faith in the democrat party that the
11:41birth tourism baby born here and by the way it's conspiracy to lie on your
11:47visa it's conspiracy to lie uh you know if you're interacting with customs and border
11:51patrol about your purpose of your visit i mean there's all kinds of legal issues
11:54with that too but then you return to china and this is the perfect example
11:59is because it is happening we know it's happening at scale it's a business it
12:04is a business to scam american citizenship right now people go to prison for it
12:09it's a crime so this is actually happening and the what what the uh democrat
12:14party believes and you cannot deviate from this is yes the person who was born
12:19here who then is going who goes back to china and is part of a
12:22conspiracy to defraud the american government is as american as apple pie as american as
12:28anybody else and gets all the rights that you know you want us to die
12:33for this place it has to be you want us to be willing to give
12:35our lives the military it has to be more than a welfare state a soup
12:40kitchen and an economic zone and they're they're really uh toying with making a lot
12:46of us just say i'm sorry what what is it that this country represents again
12:50what is it to be an american is it just a joke it's just a
12:54piece of paper that we can give to anybody for any reason that's no country
12:59can sustain that whatever they tell you no country can endure they will have eroded
13:04sovereignty the point of no return and again uh i there probably are going to
13:10be some people who come on shows today and tell you oh this went great
13:14president trump's order is in fantastic shape it's not going to happen i would love
13:19to be wrong and in june uh if this decision comes down or whenever it's
13:24going to come down uh then i will be happy to come on here and
13:27say wow this is one of the most transformative decisions the supreme court's ever made
13:31this is the right decision but i i think they're not going to try uh
13:37and again the history nerd in me love that they're analyzing debates from 1868 to
13:44try to determine what the law was and is as it pertains to citizenship what
13:48i would say is an immutable fact is if you could go back in time
13:53to 1868 in your time machine and you could say to every member of congress
13:58in 1868 hey guys by 2026 they're going to be debating what you guys intend
14:04for people who hop on airplanes or people who illegally come into this country and
14:09have a baby and then go back to live in other countries whether those people
14:14are american citizens or not they would have unanimously said of course they aren't well
14:18this is also why subject to the jurisdiction thereof is so important and there was
14:24a lot of debate and a lot of back and forth about this specifically so
14:28and i'm just going to say this this is why we should not have dual
14:31citizenship in this country for any country you can be an american citizen and that
14:36is it and when you look at why we have dual citizenship uh the arguments
14:39are super weak so it should be because keep in mind also if you're a
14:44u .s citizen and a citizen of another country we have extraterritorial taxation so wherever
14:49you are around the world you're subject to u .s taxes um this is this
14:54is to me clay you you boil this down to whether being an american has
14:59any meaning uh beyond something that can be effectively stolen through part of a criminal
15:05conspiracy which is what birth poorism is for example and whether being an american is
15:09something that will reward people for violations of law which let's keep in mind an
15:13anchor baby the parents broke the law and what happens is they break the law
15:16the kid's a citizen and then the whole family gets sponsored through chain migration to
15:21come into this country so it's not just for that kid who gets citizenship they
15:25go to the front of the immigration line and this is how this country is
15:28supposed to work and by the way all these things about doing the jobs we
15:31want to and all this other stuff not true and if anything welfare usage much
15:36higher among the new arrivals uh there's all kinds of questions about uh what happens
15:41to assimilation processes in a country that's bringing in tens of millions of people in
15:47a short period we're about 10 million illegals in under the biden administration you're gonna
15:50tell me that that we can handle that for through what we have thought of
15:54as assimilation in this country every wave of migration in america in the past clay
15:58has resulted in a period of clampdown we're like all right that's enough yeah we
16:02gotta all kind of live together and figure things out for a while we're gonna
16:06turn this country into a joke into a giant it's just gonna be like i
16:09said one giant soup kitchen show up here have your baby by the way taxpayer
16:12expense oh and whatever medical issues you have because you know we got nothing but
16:17money to spend we it's not like we're running a 30 trillion dollar deficit so
16:22or debt rather sorry uh this is something that i think people need to really
16:26take very seriously but i agree with you i'm not john roberts this whole thing
16:31john roberts is basically like is this insane yeah tough that's the deal we didn't
16:37really get to that part in uh in that clip but that is unfortunately what
16:40his attitude was yeah and and again i i come back to this is where
16:46congress today you know it's figuring this is one of the flaws of originalism right
16:52uh for those of i can go on and on about this but you're trying
16:55to determine the intent of people based on a conception of a concept that they
17:00never could have conceptualized now i can say i feel very confident everybody in 1868
17:06would have considered this interpretation of what they did today to be insane but they're
17:12not here to tell us and unfortunately congress which can act in theory is incapable
17:19of addressing what is an existential threat to the country and by the way buck
17:25has anybody even really thought about this i i just i don't like incapable clay
17:29they're capable they won't do it because democrats don't agree unwilling they have the power
17:34unwilling here's the other thing has anybody ever really thought about this if there are
17:38a million illegal uh a million american citizens in china think about this for a
17:43sec those million people could just move to wyoming and take over the state of
17:49wyoming or any other small western state and make it a communist state does anybody
17:55ever think about what could happen and day two of their arrival there as i'm
17:57speaking no english they're as american as you and me that's what democrats believe all
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23:05Welcome back in. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
23:08Let's dive into this more.
23:10We'll get into some of the implications of the argument.
23:12I do want to give you a positive news story.
23:15Today, as we talked about yesterday with NASA's, the head of NASA, Isaacman, I believe
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23:30Here's another cool story associated with that.
23:33Buck, SpaceX has just filed, according to the Wall Street Journal, to have an IPO
23:39in July. It will be the largest IPO in the history of the world.
23:45And Elon Musk has now become better at sending rockets to space, by and large,
23:52than NASA. I think this is a, on the flip side of the birthright citizenship
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24:08And kind of a cool symmetry that the IPO news comes out on the day
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24:16So that is very positive.
24:18Now, we'll open up phone lines.
24:20Also, talkbacks may be the fastest way to get through it.
24:23You want to nerd out some?
24:25Nerd questions on birthright citizenship.
24:28Both Buck and I watched the arguments this morning.
24:31We agree it's a supremely significant case.
24:34And the implications are huge.
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25:49All right. So there's a lot of the oral arguments this morning.
25:52Supreme Court, we're talking about this birthright citizenship case.
25:55Trump administration has an executive order on it.
25:58We want to play this back and forth.
25:59We started it before. It had a little misfire on the audio.
26:02We're going to hit it a second time.
26:05And this time it's going to break through.
26:06You're going to hear it.
26:07Because I think this really just summarizes the two sides pretty much in one clip.
26:12Play, cut one. Based on Chinese media reports, there are 500, 500 birth tourism companies
26:19in the People's Republic of China whose business is to bring people here to give
26:24birth and return to that nation.
26:26Having said all that, you do agree that that has no impact on the legal
26:31analysis before us? I think it's, I'd quote what Justice Scalia said in his Hamdan
26:36dissent, where they have, where like their interpretation has these implications that could not possibly
26:41have been approved by the 19th century framers of this amendment.
26:45I think that shows that they've made a mess.
26:48Their interpretation has made a mess of the provision.
26:50Well, it certainly wasn't a problem in the 19th century.
26:54No, but of course we're in a new world now, as Justice Alito pointed out
26:57to, where 8 billion people are one plane ride away from having a child who's
27:01a U .S. citizen. Well, it's a new world.
27:03It's the same constitution. 8 billion people.
27:06Anyone can come here, have a baby, leave as American as apple pie.
27:12Roberts is like, yeah, tough.
27:14Deal with it. clay your mic i think is off right now but uh or
27:19at least i couldn't hear you i don't think they could hear you either but
27:22the point here being there is an issue for sure when you can have can
27:28you hear me now yeah now we can yes every once they were on bated
27:32breath for your brilliant analysis dive in sir well i mean look i i think
27:37we can talk implications going forward because i think everyone out there needs to prepare
27:42themselves for the fact that the supreme court is now going to make birthright citizenship
27:47the law of the land and if you thought birthright citizenship tourism was a problem
27:53before i'm afraid this is going to put it on steroids because now all over
27:58china all over mexico all over latin america they're going to be saying get to
28:06america if you're nine months pregnant and your kid is an american citizen you can
28:12hop on a plane three months later bring that baby back home heck you can
28:15hop on i don't you can travel pretty quickly nowadays after having a baby get
28:20back to your home country and i just want you to think about this for
28:24a moment we talk a lot about sleeper cells right the the entire concept of
28:30like you've talked about back in the day russia would and they made the great
28:33television show the americans where you brought in spies and they lived here and you
28:37had no idea who they were think about this for a minute if those numbers
28:41are right if there are a million chinese kids that are growing up right now
28:48in china that happened to be born in the united states and spend a few
28:53days here and then went straight back to china think about what would happen if
28:59china one day said hey we're going to send all of those one million of
29:06american citizens that are chinese right may not speak english at all never spend a
29:10moment here said we're going to infiltrate america using birthright citizenship china communist country said
29:19we're going to now it's going to be millions more right they're going to be
29:23millions and millions of people who are chinese that have american citizenship and they're going
29:29to send them buck you who could take over we got a lot of people
29:32listening in north and south dakota we got people listening in wyoming those states don't
29:38have very many people you could legitimately have a situation where china's policy was we're
29:43taking over wyoming south dakota and north dakota with chinese uh entirely chinese people who
29:51are by virtue of having been born here for one day american and we're going
29:55to turn north and south dakota and wyoming and montana and all these states that
29:59don't have very much population we're going to turn them into communist states and we're
30:04going to take over the united states by virtue of our ability to take advantage
30:10of birthright citizenship now some of you might say that's crazy some of you might
30:13say oh that's outlandish somebody's going to clip it and they're going to be look
30:16at what they're talking about a conservative rate we have created a situation where millions
30:21of people that are not american right never raised here have no connection whatsoever to
30:27the country are able to come here and potentially take over some of our states
30:31some of our elections and we're also creating a situation where all those people could
30:36run for president china could send you're talking about man a manchurian candidate situation yeah
30:44you're i mean you're talking about which by the way is in the book manufacturing
30:48delusion the whole notion of how you could brainwash people do you know about this
30:51it's a really interesting period in history uh the turncoats americans who were uh were
30:58taken prisoner during the korean war and there were a number of them not not
31:02many but a number of them who wanted to stay in china even after there
31:08was a prisoner swap that was supposed to happen and this by the way led
31:12to comden's book the manchurian candidate this whole thing because these guys had been put
31:16through thought reform camps and then they did these public pronouncements of how america was
31:22using uh chemical weapons or i'm sorry uh biological weapons and doing these terrible things
31:28that were total lies they were used as they were willingly used as propaganda pieces
31:33a big deal well this was i mean one of the great television shows out
31:37there was homeland right and there was a modern version of that this guy's taken
31:41prisoner by muslim uh terrorist and then he converts to islam and then the question
31:46is is he loyal to america former american soldier it's great show particularly season one
31:51if you're you know it's been out for 15 years or whatever the heck 20
31:54years now um and phenomenal uh show but buck think about that we can't elect
32:02elon musk president of the united states elon musk we just said spacex going public
32:07brilliant guy great capitalist born in south south africa i think elon many of you
32:12would say has embraced many of the excellent natures of america he is now an
32:16american citizen but by virtue of him not having been born on the soil here
32:21he is ineligible to ever be president of the united states there are millions of
32:26chinese kids millions of them that have never spent more than a day or two
32:32in the united states who are eligible to be elected president of the united states
32:37because they happen to be born here and on top of that buck there right
32:43you also coming back and taking tons of American college spots.
32:48They're applying as American citizens to American universities, and they have virtually no connection at
32:56all. We are being exploited.
32:58We're being taken advantage of.
33:00Now, again, people are going to blame the Supreme Court for the way that they
33:04interpret the 14th Amendment. What I would say is this is why we have a
33:08Congress. President Trump is trying to do what the most that he can to fix
33:12this. He put the executive order in place.
33:14He recognizes the issue. He's trying to address it, and he's trying to fix it.
33:19But I think the Supreme Court is going to say he doesn't have the authority
33:22to override what they believe is the interpretation historically of the 14th Amendment.
33:26Also important, Buck, this is only prospective.
33:30It doesn't deal with anything.
33:32All the people that have been born by soil in the United States are still
33:36citizens. So they're not even the Trump argument is just that prospectively it doesn't apply.
33:43All of the past millions of people who have become citizens, their citizenship is unaffected.
33:52But Congress sees this issue.
33:55This is why so many of you are so frustrated, and this is where I
33:58get so angry. Seize this issue, and Democrats are of the opinion that they want
34:04more of this. My concern is the Supreme Court opinion is going to give Democrats
34:09what they want because they're not going to address this in Congress.
34:13They're going to allow this to become the law of the land.
34:16And as a result, I think we're going to see more birth tourism and more
34:20foreigners taking advantage of American by soil citizenship.
34:24Well, at least at that point, and this is not much of a silver lining,
34:28but we'll be able to, to your point about Congress, say this needs to be
34:34fixed. This is unacceptable. This is a Supreme Court ruling that essentially says citizenship can
34:43be the proceeds of crime.
34:46You can lawfully steal citizenship is what the Supreme Court will be saying with this.
34:54And let me just say, people have been doing that.
34:58That is what anchor babies are.
35:00That is what birth tourism is.
35:01It is the stealing of citizenship because you are conspiring and breaking American law to
35:08get to that place. And at that point, at least you can say Democrats will
35:15have to look the American, you know, whatever that means, look the American people in
35:19the eye and say, you know what?
35:22Yeah, this is what we think being an American is.
35:25It's really just kind of a joke.
35:26It's just you're here and we get to take from some according to ability and
35:32give to some according to need.
35:34I mean, that's the whole game.
35:36There's nothing that binds us together other than the Democrat or the state machine, the
35:42apparatus. President Trump has weighed in.
35:45He was at the oral arguments, if we didn't say that earlier, which I believe
35:49is the first time that a president, they believe, has ever attended an oral argument
35:54at the Supreme Court. Buck, have you ever been to the Supreme Court and watched
35:57an argument? No. I have been once.
36:00Very cool experience to get to go and see in person.
36:05Cooler experience watching Supreme Court arguments.
36:10Civil War camp. Am I the only?
36:15This is the Clay Travis.
36:16Let me just say, Clay Travis is paused.
36:18He's like, I just, we just heard the record scratch at the party.
36:21The Clay Travis decision making pause.
36:23This is tough. I actually was just about to say, Buck, there are what, 350
36:26million Americans? Am I the only American who has been to Civil War sleepaway camp
36:32and watched a Supreme Court oral argument in person?
36:35No, I think a lot of Civil War sleepaway camp nerds have probably done the
36:39Supreme Court oral arguments. I don't think that's unusual.
36:42Maybe you're right. I don't think that many people go to the Supreme Court.
36:45It's hard to get in.
36:46I went as a member of the media, so that was very cool.
36:50I actually think it's pretty cool that President Trump went.
36:53It's illustrative of how important he thinks this issue is.
36:55He just posted, Buck, we are the only country in the world, all caps, stupid
37:01enough to allow birthright citizenship, President Donald J.
37:04Trump. So, I think President Trump is smart enough, having said and watched those arguments,
37:09to recognize that he is likely to lose.
37:12And I think he wanted to be there to illustrate and make the historical point
37:18of why this is so significant.
37:20And again, I actually think Republicans are doing a poor job on this issue.
37:25Aisha Hasney posted this, and I thought it was pretty well said.
37:28She's at Fox News. And she was kind of building on this situation.
37:34I've seen birth tourism up close.
37:39It's a total abuse of the system.
37:41Think about it. Someone like me, who was not born in the United States, but
37:45has lived here since I was six years old, will never be able to run
37:49for president. But a child born here through birth tourism, then taken back and raised
37:55in their parents' country, never growing up with American values, somehow can.
38:00American citizenship is not an insurance policy.
38:05I think that's really well said by her.
38:07And this is, I just think it's.
38:10such a huge seismic flaw, and we are setting ourselves up to be taken advantage
38:16of, and to you, Buck, I mean, I think it's a good way of phrasing
38:20it, they're stealing American citizenship.
38:22This is a form of fraud being perpetrated against all of us, and the Supreme
38:26Court, I think, is going to make it more common because they're now going to
38:30say the law of the land is if you can get here, if you can
38:33make it to American soil and be born, doesn't matter anything else, you're a citizen
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43:59ton of calls we'll get to some of these calls i promise you because some
44:02of you are going to have smart questions and i've got a potential solution that
44:07i will share at the top of the next hour um that could make sense
44:12prospectively going forward um but i do think this discussion is important and again i'm
44:19not happy with john sour the uh solicitor general because i think when you guys
44:23hear him making this argument you're going to say look the guy's an oral advocate
44:27and that legitimately means his job is to speak well rfk jr is uh would
44:35not be able to host this radio show that doesn't mean that i don't think
44:39rfk jr has good ideas but we talk for a living and communication on the
44:44radio you have to be able to understand what we are saying this argument is
44:48important even more so on social media because all these uh arguments are going to
44:53be clipped and they're going to circulate it's going to be a part of the
44:56marketplace of ideas and i don't think that president trump solicitor general john sour is
45:01able to advocate for the president's perspective as well as he should be able to
45:06because of his voice i'm going to play it you guys are going to understand
45:09this but it is important you want to talk about history the united states is
45:13actually a historical outlier now in terms of allowing birthright citizenship by soil listen to
45:20cut four there are people who are subject to removal at any time if they
45:28are apprehended and they go through the proper procedures but they have uh in their
45:36minds made a permanent home here and have established roots and that raises a humanitarian
45:44problem and i wonder if you could you could address that on the humanitarian point
45:50i would point out as i said at the beginning justice alito that the united
45:53states rule of nearly unrestricted birthright citizenship is an outlier among modern nations it's a
45:58very small minority of nations that have that rule for example every every nation in
46:04europe has a different rule and the notion that they have a huge humanitarian crisis
46:08as a result of not having unrestricted birthright citizenship i don't think is a strong
46:13argument i think that's important and again we've talked about this some maybe we'll dive
46:17into it a bit historically the legacy of by soil citizenship is a vestige in
46:23north and south america of the colonial era when if you had a family that
46:29decided to get on a ship and come all the way here from england for
46:32instance they wanted you to still be a subject of the king so there was
46:36fear that if you decided you were going to go make your living in the
46:39colonies that you wouldn't one day be able to send your family back to england
46:43that's like a stateless a stateless person which at that time would be a really
46:47bad situation what do you do then so that's why it exists but modern day
46:51europe japan china you can't just show up in their country and have a baby
46:55and have that baby become a citizen of that country it's absolutely outrageous um we'll
47:01talk more about this uh everybody who wants to call in loaded lines you can
47:05get through on the talk back um and we'll talk about president trump's address tonight
47:10at nine maybe a bit about nasa's artemis 2 launch scheduled for this evening um
47:16and uh all of those aspects plus buck i will give you what to me
47:21would be a legislative solution going forward all of you can tell me if my
47:26idea is moronic as i'm sure many of you will but i will tell you
47:30what i think could be done nonetheless uh that will be at the top of
47:33the next hour and our buddy congressman jim jordan joining us at the top of
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