Hour 3 - Spending Like Drunken Sailors
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0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome back in, everybody, to the third hour of the Clay Travis and
0:08Buck Sexton show. Still looking very closely at any updates on the second pilot.
0:15One pilot retrieved successfully after a apparent shootdown of an F -15 in Iran.
0:23We will continue to monitor this and bring you any updates on it that we
0:28have. Something that I think is going to, well, hopefully going into this Easter weekend.
0:36We'll have both of them back safe and sound and can at least move to
0:42the next thing we have to look at in this conflict, which continues on.
0:47Clay, we have much in the economy, I think, to look at as very powerful,
0:55very strong right now, despite the fact that there are some high gas prices.
0:58We played this one before.
1:00This is from the first hour, but just hit it again.
1:02U .S. economy adding 178 ,000 jobs in March.
1:06This has cut one. The expectation was, what, 60 ,000 jobs and it's 178?
1:11Wow. Yeah, look, the job market bounced back in a big way in March, and
1:16that is good news. Really blowing away expectations.
1:20Clay, I think one challenge the Trump administration has had from the very beginning with
1:25all of this is they're almost victims of their own success.
1:30The expectation is that the Trump economy will be strong, there'll be job growth, stock
1:36market boom, all kinds of productivity on the rise, and the American people becoming overall
1:44more prosperous in a lot of ways that can be measured.
1:48I know prices continue to be a major concern for people out there.
1:52This is the challenge of spending trillions of dollars with the COVID madness that we
1:59should not have spent because we should not have shut down at all.
2:02And the whole thing was just a disaster, a debacle from top to bottom with
2:08the government response to all of this.
2:10Here we have a moment in time, Clay, where I think the reality of the
2:17Trump economy is apparent in that it is so strong that we don't hear much
2:23in the way of criticism about it.
2:25And the people that would love to talk about what a total mishandling of the
2:30economy has occurred on Trump's watch have to say, or really have to say nothing,
2:34because there's not a whole lot that they can attack here.
2:38The price issue is still very annoying, and certainly the price on gas.
2:42I think gas prices are going to go down, and I think the overall issue
2:45of prices is really still a hangover from COVID.
2:48You had the highest inflation in 40 years under Biden.
2:51You had trillions of dollars of completely unnecessary spending, and we have not dealt with
2:56the spending, really. And that's just the truth of it.
2:57If you're going to criticize something, it's that both parties refuse to stop spending too
3:01much money and getting us deeper into the debt hole.
3:05That's 100 % accurate. I will say, sometimes I think we don't notice some of
3:10the positive, transformative things that have happened in the early days of Trump 2 .0.
3:17And I actually see these two things linked.
3:19One, we hit 125 -year low in murders, which should be one of the great
3:26all -time accomplishments, right? If you said, hey, we're going to have fewer murders than
3:32at any point since 1900.
3:33It seems like that should be a really good thing.
3:36So, you know, it's interesting.
3:37I spoke to, and this is actually maybe a pitch for the Clay and Buck
3:42Podcast Network. I spoke to a friend, Rafael Mangual of the Manhattan Institute.
3:47He's their criminal justice senior fellow, analyst, writer, thinker.
3:55And I spoke to him about this yesterday, Clay.
3:56So we're really at the lowest.
3:58And he says, by the way, the answer to your question is yes.
4:00It's certainly the lowest in, like, 60, 70 years.
4:05I mean, they're saying 120.
4:06The statistics at some point are not apparently that really reliable if you go back
4:12far enough. But I think it's fair to say that murders, although wasn't there a
4:16huge spike in murders during Prohibition and Capone and all that?
4:20Anyway, but per capita at least.
4:21Well, I mean, I think you could go back in time and say the Wild
4:25West in a pre -1900 era, I think they had a lot of murders.
4:29You know, like, I think the murder rate in Tombstone was probably pretty high compared
4:32to Phoenix today, for instance, in Arizona, right?
4:36Was it? I'd have to look at that.
4:38I've never really. Oh, yeah.
4:39I think the murder rate was off the charts back in the day.
4:43And by the way, you also just had people disappear.
4:46So I don't know that we even found dead bodies that well, you know, back
4:50in the day. Well, think about how easy it would have been to get away
4:52with it back in the day.
4:53Before video cameras, phones, forensic analysis, fingerprinting, all of these things, it would have been,
5:00you know, ballistics analysis. It would have been pretty easy to get away with all
5:04kinds of bad stuff. But what was interesting was when I was talking to Raphael
5:08about this, and you can listen to this on the Buck Brief from the Clay
5:11and Buck Podcast Network. He said that there are, that in the Trump, the Trump
5:17program has worked. But to talk about why the Trump program of law and crime
5:22has worked, you have to look at the specific places.
5:24has been deployed. Memphis, D .C., and they have really done a phenomenal job.
5:30Memphis is a great example.
5:31Murdered down 40 percent, but they have used federal resources that have been really collaborating
5:41with local resources. So that gets around some of the, you know, you'll have basically
5:45have feds and cops in the same, you know, car or going around together working
5:50on gang issues, things like that.
5:52So that's been brilliant, and that has absolutely worked.
5:54There's some broader, though, trends about the murder rate right now.
5:58For example, and he noted this.
6:01I thought this was interesting.
6:02I'd never heard anyone make this case before.
6:04There's been a precipitous drop in drinking in this country.
6:10Yeah. And I'm not trying to be, you know, church lady over here, like, put
6:15down that beer. But there's been a precipitous lowering of drinking in recent years, and
6:21particularly among younger, you know, youngish people.
6:24And who commits murders? It's overwhelming people 18 to 35.
6:28I mean, that's really where most of the, that's where most of the shootings are
6:30happening. Yeah. Young men, young men who are pre -marriage age, 16 to 40 is
6:38like every murder. Right. So I'm not saying, you know, if you're sitting on the
6:42veranda this weekend enjoying a nice glass of bullet or something, you know, is that
6:49a good one? Is that, is that a...
6:51Look, I'm a Buffalo Trace family bourbon guy, so I'll probably have an old -fashioned
6:59at some point this weekend.
7:00If you're a 55 -year -old enjoying an old -fashioned this weekend, no one's saying
7:03you're going to go Incredible Hulk, rip your shirt off and get super violent.
7:06But yes, bullet is a nice, is a good choice.
7:09Oh, there we go. So, you know, that, that's one that I think, for example,
7:15I think that's an interesting case to be made.
7:17He says the data backs this up, that the drop in drinking, broadly speaking, results
7:22in less violence and specifically less murder.
7:25Yeah. So that's one part.
7:27I think that's accurate. And also a lot less, he said that people, because of
7:32remote work, there is less concentration of people in, in cities, in some places, and
7:41particularly in places like people aren't on mass transit in the same numbers.
7:45People aren't having the same level of contact with each other because of so much
7:49more remote work. And that, that has, I just thought this was really interesting.
7:54I never thought of this before.
7:55And this is a guy, all he does is look at the numbers.
7:56I should probably invite him on the show.
7:58Yeah, that would be great.
7:59And I will. We should have him on to do a deep dive on this
8:01because I think that's super interesting.
8:03But also the, and here's the really big one, the overall incarcerated population under Trump
8:11has been going up. Yeah.
8:13And that's really, now the other ones, the other ones are just kind of interesting
8:16data nerd stuff, but that's really keep bad, scary, violent criminals off the streets, Clay.
8:25This is the big difference.
8:27And this is Trump U .S.
8:28attorneys, because remember any drug stuff, gangs can be hit with Rico, any major drug
8:34crimes are federal. A lot of the time, if you, if you're involved with a
8:38drug gang, you're carrying a weapon illegally and you're selling drugs, that's federal.
8:41There's a lot of stuff that falls under federal jurisdiction.
8:44And so it's whether the U .S.
8:46attorneys that Trump has appointed are willing to enforce the law meaningfully or not.
8:51The answer is yes. And people are getting locked up in Clay.
8:54Murder rate gone down a lot.
8:57It is possible. So that is occurring, Buck.
9:00And I would actually connect it with this one because it's also incredibly transformative and
9:07it's not getting very much attention either.
9:10Fewest federal employees, because we added 178 ,000 new jobs this morning was the, was
9:18the official March number. But simultaneously, we've been firing a lot of people who worked
9:24in federal government such that, and this is kind of a crazy stat.
9:28Again, it should be getting a lot of attention.
9:29Right now, we have the fewest federal employees since 1966.
9:35Not per capita. The fewest federal employees, our tax dollars paying for federal employees since
9:451966. And I know everybody wanted to tap dance on Elon Musk and Doge.
9:51And it's frustrating that a lot of the Doge spending excesses were not ratified into
9:57law. I'm not signifying that's not significant.
10:01But the decision to go after the federal workforce and basically say, hey, we'll pay
10:07you to leave and go find a job somewhere else.
10:10We don't need taxpayer dollars to be able to be continuing to do it.
10:14Don't you think that's kind of interesting?
10:16Sometimes it's hard to think big picture because in the day -to -day, there's so
10:21much noise. And it's like we have a fire hose of data that's spraying out
10:27every day. And it's hard to be on top of things.
10:29Two things that happened in the last year.
10:33Lowest murder rate since 1900.
10:36Fewest federal employees since 1966.
10:39Both of those are really transformative data points, which are very beneficial.
10:44Now, Buck, is $39 trillion in debt still way too much?
10:48Yes. Do Democrats and Republicans join hands and...
10:52just spend money like drunken sailors yes are there major structural issues with the level
10:57of debt that we have set in place in the united states yes but i
11:03do think it's worth looking at some of these green shoots of positivity in trump's
11:09first year and saying hey we should really kind of sometimes this gets snowed under
11:13in all the noise who's going to be the next ag uh what's going to
11:18happen with the supreme court i've got a data point for you on that coming
11:21back out of the next break but i do think these are pretty insignificant details
11:25that are not going to get the attention they should so yes it is in
11:30fact the case i looked this up clay you're talking about a 21 percent decline
11:35in the u .s national homicide rate from uh from 2024 through 2025 that's the
11:42one we obviously have the the complete year data from you're looking at about four
11:47to a hundred thousand residents so it's four per hundred thousand people murders in the
11:53united states is that this i'm just reading this off of uh you know ai
11:58as we're going here i believe that's potentially the lowest since at least 1900 yeah
12:04that's what i'm saying 125 year low and again no i i question in 1904
12:09were we great at counting murders i have a suspicion that maybe you could have
12:12gotten away with a murder in 1904 compared to now the 2025 drop was especially
12:18steep in 31 of 35 large cities tracked by the council on criminal justice 40
12:25plus drops in denver omaha and what now washington dc of course part of the
12:29trump program clay a big part of this is uh just going after and this
12:35is i think something that you know we should we should bring cash patel back
12:37team reach out to uh director patel because i want to talk to him about
12:41this i want to hear from the fbi side i don't think they're getting enough
12:44credit for this i think more needs to be made of this think about how
12:47many lives you're talking about thousands of lives being saved by change in policy here
12:51and i always have to point this out to people too yeah of course you're
12:55saving a life that's that's the most important thing but you're also saving with each
12:59life saved in this case you're talking about a family that still has a dad
13:05a son a brother yes so all think of how it affects all of them
13:10a community that doesn't have to go to a horrific funeral for someone who's you
13:15know 20 years old and was shot i mean this story so i can't even
13:18talk about the story is baby was killed in brooklyn at a shooting i mean
13:22this horrible stuff that happens every time something like that is averted it's such a
13:27a blessing i think the jewish word is mitzvah it's like it's such a a
13:33beautiful thing um yiddish word uh you know and and it's something that the administration
13:40needs to be talking to people about more because this needs to be the way
13:43it is going forward yeah people who are bad who are violent criminals who are
13:47a threat to society need to be the first the top priority the number one
13:52priority of the fbi not people that showed up and took a selfie in the
13:56capitol building for 45 seconds and walked out after they had been guided in by
14:00law enforcement officers which happened to a lot of people okay that's not actually the
14:04top priority of the fbi 30 percent of fbi officers clay were in some way
14:09working on january 6 adjacent cases people are being raped and murdered on the streets
14:14yes they're gang members that are torturing people on video and sending it to you
14:18know to rival factions and we got they're chasing down grannies in their uh with
14:23their fanny packs on because they walked into statuary hall for a second i mean
14:27you know really this is what the biden fbi was doing it's it's it's disgraceful
14:32lowest in 125 years 2025 buck let me hit you with this data in dc
14:38right now compared to last season last year a 66 percent decline in murders year
14:46over year dc is on pace to be the safest maybe that it has ever
14:52been in the history of washington dc certainly on a per capita basis but maybe
14:57on a raw databases remember when president trump called in the national guard everybody said
15:02you're crazy there's no impact that's going to happen here or they lied and said
15:06crime wasn't bad 66 percent decline in murder since last year we just don't have
15:12to allow murders i think that's what we're learning from memphis and washington dc we
15:17know what we can do and we can drive it down in a substantial way
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16:49Can our F -14 pilot get his story in?
16:53He's been waiting a while.
16:54Tom, fire. Give us the gusto.
16:57The Argentine pilots only learned of the success of their attack when Argentine operatives in
17:02England heard the news on the BBC and reported it back to Argentina.
17:07So it was so, the weather was so bad that they weren't sure they had
17:10managed to hit their target until they saw the news report that they had hit
17:14their target. Correct. Thank you.
17:18That's a great call. I would say, Buck, it would seem to be a failure
17:21of military intelligence if the pilots themselves did not know if they had had a
17:27successful raid or not until the media reported that they had had a successful raid.
17:31Doesn't that seem like maybe your own intel should be able to tell whether you
17:36did your objective or not?
17:37Now, this is what, 19, early 80s?
17:40I don't think that happens today.
17:42Argentina didn't have the most sophisticated intelligence collection apparatus back then.
17:47Honestly, still doesn't today. So I'm not all that surprised.
17:51But they messed with Margaret Thatcher, the iron lady.
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18:55We are joined now by Mike Rogers.
18:57He is going to be the Senate candidate for Republicans running this fall in Michigan
19:05for an open Senate seat there.
19:07Let's bring him in. That election, I believe, in Michigan, and he can correct me
19:11if I'm wrong, is August 4th.
19:13And in particular, Georgia, New Hampshire, and Michigan, among others.
19:18But those are right now Democrat -held seats.
19:21Mike, we want you to win.
19:23If you win, then there's a virtual certainty Republicans would retain control of the Senate.
19:30Because I would imagine you would agree with this.
19:32There's almost no map where Democrats lose their Michigan seat and are able to take
19:38a majority in the Senate.
19:40So this is both important in Michigan, but it's also supremely important nationwide.
19:46Yeah, this is the number one pickup opportunity in the country.
19:50We're leading all three Democrat candidates in head -to -head polling.
19:54So they have a primary that's going to go all the way to August 4th,
19:58which is really late. We've eliminated our primary.
20:02The whole team is on board and backed this particular race, which is why we're
20:07the number one pickup opportunity.
20:09So that's huge, and you're right.
20:10When we win Michigan, they can't take back the Senate.
20:14So if you're looking for a place to invest in a race to make a
20:17difference for the future of the country, Michigan is it.
20:20This is the place to, if you have a few coins left in the back
20:24of those cushions, fellas, this is the place to send that money.
20:28So it's great that you're the Trump -endorsed candidate up there in Michigan.
20:32That will obviously have a lot of residents with the GOP faithful there.
20:37Can you speak to, in your state, independents, swing voters?
20:42What do they look like as a cohort?
20:44Is the primary issue for them just economics?
20:47What do you have to do, essentially, to get over the line here?
20:51Yeah, it's like every election.
20:52Turnout, of course, really matters.
20:53But if you're reaching those who are not just going to say, this is Trump's
20:58guy, I'm going to vote for him, what do those voters in Michigan look like,
21:02and how do you reach them?
21:04Yeah, and so this is going to be that jobs, economy, wrong track for Michigan.
21:10This is a change election, and that's what I think the national pundits may have
21:14missed. The governor has been a Democrat for the last decade, better part of a
21:19decade, and they've had these two Senate seats, they, the Democrats, for 30 years.
21:25We've lost 30 ,000 manufacturing jobs.
21:28Our defense industrial -based operations have moved south.
21:31We went from top -tier education in the country.
21:34We're now 44. Our wage, median wage, has kind of flattened out in Michigan.
21:41So I've worked on a factory floor.
21:43I have, you know, been in the military.
21:45I have been in the private sector.
21:47I have been in the private sector.
21:47I have been in the private sector.
21:47I have been in the private sector.
21:47Thank you. What we're saying is this is the time for change.
21:50You want Michigan back up off her knees and building things again, I'm the guy
21:55to get it done. And we have a plan to make housing more affordable that
21:58doesn't include a big new government program.
22:01We have a way to push down on prices and recapture the defense industrial -based
22:06jobs that we lost over the last few years.
22:09That's all coming back to Michigan.
22:10We will once again be the arsenal of democracy.
22:13So when you look at independence, they just want a better education.
22:17They want a better job opportunity.
22:19And they want their kids to make the choice to stay in Michigan.
22:22And we're going to do all those things.
22:24Three -way race. You just hit on it.
22:27Between well -funded Democrat candidates, you don't even know who your opponent's going to be.
22:32You won't know until August 4th.
22:35How much hay can you make, given that you're the guy, while they fight it
22:40out? And again, August 4th is a really late primary.
22:44By the time their primary is decided, there's almost early voting that's going to be
22:49underway. They're going to have to spend a lot of money to pick a nominee.
22:52And then that nominee is going to have to spend a ton of money to
22:54make people aware of who he or she is.
22:58And by the way, we just had a controversy come out of the Democrat side.
23:02One of their candidates, a guy named Abdul El -Sayed, didn't want to condemn the
23:08killing of the Ayatollah because too many people, he said in Dearborn, were sad about
23:13it. And that actually made him go up in the Democrat Party.
23:17This is a pretty radical group that you're running against.
23:20Very radical. And think about it.
23:22He's now the standard bearer for the party.
23:24He's gotten more Act Blue donations because of his embracing the Ayatollah.
23:31And by the way, that came on the heels of him saying that the individual,
23:36the terrorist who tried to kill 140 Jewish schoolchildren in Michigan by driving his car
23:43loaded with explosives into a synagogue, he said, well, if we weren't at war, he
23:50probably wouldn't have done that anyway.
23:52This is a guy whose father was, or excuse me, brother was a commander in
23:56Hezbollah, a terrorist organization. Oh, and by the way, he had been radicalized months before
24:01his brother had been killed in an Israeli strike.
24:05I mean, that just to me is unqualifying.
24:07If you're willing to stand with a terrorist, if you're willing to stand with the
24:11Ayatollah, the leading terrorist sponsor in the world, man, I just think that makes you
24:16unqualified. He's endorsed by Bernie Sanders, very radical.
24:20All of his numbers went up.
24:21That's why people need to pay attention to a place like Lishan.
24:24You cannot allow the Democrats that are this radical getting traction in a place like
24:29Michigan. It would be devastating for us.
24:32And so we got a lot of work to do.
24:34But the other two aren't any better.
24:36One is, you know, one is a Chuck Schumer candidate.
24:39The other one has Chris Murphy as their benefactor.
24:43They've covered the gamut of radical politics in America.
24:46And that's why this race becomes even more important to let that part of the
24:52Democrat Party, which candidly, the three parts of it is all of it, that they're
24:57not going to gain ground in a working class state like Michigan.
25:01And trust me, I worked on a car factory floor.
25:04I know these people. I know how important these jobs are to the middle class
25:08in Michigan. That's why I think we're going to do exceptionally well.
25:13And I think that's why we're leading, you know, it's pretty rare for a Republican
25:15to lead the Democrat candidates this early.
25:19Normally, we close the gap toward the end.
25:21We're ahead. We got to keep that momentum.
25:23Let them fight it out between now and August while we continue to build support
25:27around the state and build our team as well.
25:32Mike, what do you think about what's going on in Iran?
25:35Obviously, we're still waiting to hear if the second pilot has been retrieved safely.
25:40One pilot has been rescued after his plane was downed in this conflict, in this
25:46situation. What can you tell us?
25:49Yeah, you know, I think, boy, it's really hard when you have to justify every
25:53minute of the war, I think, for the president.
25:56It's unfortunate. I hope they get the second pilot.
26:00They've rescued the first one, which tells you that's an incredible feat in and of
26:04itself. It wasn't that long after they were shot down that they had that one
26:07pilot in custody or retrieved.
26:10If you think about what's this phase of the warfare, it's going closer to the
26:14ground and it's not stealth fighting.
26:16So that first part of this conflict in the last month has all been stealth
26:20fighters, stealth bombers, stealth fighters delivering payloads that are absolutely decimating the enemy like nowhere
26:27else in the world that it has ever really seen.
26:30And so this next phase, it's clear to me that they're using lower capable aircraft.
26:35The F -15 E -Series can be lower.
26:39It can, you know, find smaller targets on the ground and engage them.
26:44And that's what that tells me.
26:46So with that, you know, you have certain shoulder fired missiles that they can have.
26:51You know, those are hard to get all of them.
26:53You know, you can get a lucky shot.
26:54And that sounds like what happened today.
26:56But we have to remember, this is just a phase and I'm sure they'll address
26:59the U .S. will adjust tactics because of this.
27:03But it just tells you how successful that now they're looking for targets with low,
27:07the ability to have low flying aircraft is we walk away from this with a
27:12degraded, if not eliminated nuclear.
27:15program capability. Ballistic missiles, which, by the way, made them so dangerous and such terrorist
27:21proxy lovers across the Middle East, that's gone.
27:24The drone program is decimated and really hard to reconstitute.
27:28Being able to build and deploy mines in the Straits, decimated, hard to.
27:32That's a huge win for safety and security of the region and certainly the United
27:36States. For 47 years, we've had every president, seven, I think, talk about we're going
27:42to contain Iran. Matter of fact, Hillary Clinton said when she became president, she was
27:46going to bomb them. People seem to forget that.
27:49This is the first president that has said, listen, we're not going to let you
27:53get a nuclear weapon. We decimated your program.
27:56You came right back and tried to rebuild it within days.
27:59That tells you we had a problem.
28:00We're not going to do this forever.
28:01I think this is the right thing to do.
28:03I do think it will be over quickly because the military piece of this, they're
28:08getting down to the last targets, which is why you have these low flying aircraft.
28:12Last question for you. You mentioned this a second ago.
28:15The attempted terror attack, thankfully, was foiled on a Jewish synagogue in Oakland County.
28:24My wife's family, many of them live in Oakland County.
28:27I was just up for a bar and bat mitzvah in Oakland County.
28:32It's huge Jewish population, large Arab population in that area, too.
28:35Are you seeing Jewish voters recognizing that many Democrats have turned their backs on them?
28:43Again, we mentioned one of the top candidates that you might be running against, not
28:48wanting to even mention the Ayatollah being killed because some might be angry.
28:53Is that moving some of that electorate in Oakland County, which is a huge battleground
28:58county and has become in the Trump era, one of the real bell leathers in
29:02your state? Yeah, I think I've seen some of it.
29:06It's hard to tell. It's, you know, I saw a report where 40 percent of
29:10the Jewish population in New York City voted for Mandami, which is a head scratcher
29:16to me. I don't understand that.
29:18How would it be that high, candidly?
29:20Yeah. So in Michigan, I think we're experiencing a little bit of that.
29:24I think it's starting to come around.
29:25I do think the attack on the synagogue brings it home.
29:28I can't tell you how many people I've talked to who, in and around the
29:33state, who that was their kind of synagogue, that was their place of choice.
29:37That's where some of them went to school on occasion.
29:40It's the largest synagogue in the state.
29:41So it had a profound impact.
29:44I hope that they're coming to the conclusion.
29:45You can't have a guy who's running, who is now the front runner, Abdul El
29:50-Sayed, say, I want a Mandami, Michigan, which he did, and wonder how, you know,
29:57our Jewish population in the state can even allow that to happen.
30:01I do see some waking up.
30:03We have a long way to go.
30:04And here's the other thing I think is really important for viewers to understand.
30:07We have other very big Arab populations that are Christian, Chaldeans, which are Iraqi Catholics,
30:12is very big in Michigan.
30:15We have Lebanese Christians, really big in Michigan.
30:19And then we have other Muslim groups who are not upset that what they see
30:25happening in Iran. They know that their homelands have been terrorized all across the Middle
30:29East, those Arab countries, by Iran, the leading sponsor of terror.
30:33If they're not able to fund Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis and 10 other,
30:39by the way, small terrorist groups operating in that region, guess what?
30:43Things become peaceful. Their families back home become a little more safe.
30:47So we do have a pretty activist Muslim population there that's very pro -Palestine.
30:52They're active and they're working at it.
30:54But there's other populations there that I think we're going to be able to get
30:58their votes going into November.
31:00President Trump did quite well with Arab voters in Michigan, as you well know.
31:04Joe. And and so there's a lot of people, maybe a non -traditional Democrat voting
31:10bases that are up for grabs.
31:12Mike Rogers, how can people help you if they want to get involved in your
31:17Senate campaign, which, as you said, is the top target to flip a current Democrat
31:22held seat? First of all, Clay is going to call all of his relatives in
31:27Oakland County and say Mike Rogers just died.
31:29So that's a little phone time.
31:31That's really important. Secondly, go to Rogers for Senate.
31:34dot com. R -O -G -E -R -S for Senate dot com.
31:37If you think that a little bit of money can't go a long way, this
31:41is the race. This is the investment.
31:43If you want to protect the future of the country, you've got to get engaged
31:47in a race like Michigan.
31:49Let's win this thing and make it impossible for the Democrats to take back the
31:54Michigan Senate. I think that would be great for the country, certainly great for Michigan.
31:57Rogers for Senate dot com.
31:59We'd love to have your volunteer time and any small donation coming across in our
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32:07So thanks for thanks for having us.
32:09Yeah, no doubt. I'll be up.
32:10My father -in -law just had his 80th birthday.
32:13So we're going to come up and celebrate that in the Detroit area in two
32:16weeks. So I will make the pitch to all my relatives at that event that
32:20they got to get out and make sure they vote for you.
32:21That's a big speech there, Clay, why this is important.
32:25I'll take over. I'll take over the mic during the 80th birthday party and I'll
32:29get up on stage and make sure they all raise their hands and they're getting
32:31out to vote for you.
32:32Thank you, Mike. Encourage everybody to get out on that website.
32:34It could control the future of the United States Senate.
32:38Michigan has a lot of important votes in their hands.
32:41Thank you, sir. Thanks, Clay.
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34:58Clay, are you going to be celebrating Easter?
35:00Or are you going to be a heathen?
35:01I saw you wearing pink last weekend on TV because I was wearing pink.
35:05I will be at church, I believe, on Sunday.
35:08My wife is in charge of all family -related obligations this weekend.
35:13So we've got family in town.
35:16The boys, and you've got a one -year -old.
35:19This is going to start to stack up for you.
35:21It's unbelievable how many sports and events that they have on an average weekend now.
35:29And it's never, like, super close.
35:31But whether it's soccer, my lacrosse, football, I mean, it's just unbelievable.
35:39Every weekend it feels like we have 40 different sporting events.
35:42I don't know if you're able to answer this or if this will get you
35:44in trouble. So you can defer and just kick it into the weekend.
35:47As a dad, what sport that your boys play is the most fun to watch?
35:54Football. Football straight up. I mean, football is the best sport to watch, I think,
35:58in my opinion, no matter what.
36:00Baseball is, I've coached them all.
36:03Baseball, I think, is the most fun to coach because, you know, being a first
36:07-base coach or a third -base coach, you get to actually talk to them during
36:10the game. And I would say that's probably, I mean, I've coached soccer, baseball, football,
36:16basketball, all. Which one do you think you coach the best?
36:22That's a good question. I think baseball, your overall coaching matters the least.
36:28I think probably football, it matters the most.
36:33So I would probably say basketball is the one that I had the most impact
36:37on, at least. It's fun.
36:39I'm going to go play some Paddel this weekend before I go for Easter.
36:42Eat your pistachio ice cream, too.
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