Team 47 - MAHA Uncensored
2/22/202626 mincomplete
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0:10Cozy Earth. Team 47 with Clay and Buck starts now.
0:19Jeff Hayes, award -winning filmmaker, director of a new documentary called Maha Uncensored, premiering February
0:2524th at mahamovie .com. A hard look at the business model behind American medicine.
0:32Jeff, we appreciate you. You've also directed the films The Real Anthony Fauci and On
0:38Native Soil. Let's dive in here right off the top.
0:41We have a lot of discussions about drug prescriptions and the medical industry in general.
0:46What does the data tell us about the degree to which Americans are over -prescribed?
0:52In other words, I've had the theory.
0:53I'm curious if you would sign on.
0:55If we just cut half of all prescriptions in this country, would we have any
1:01change in the actual longevity outlook for people and their health in your mind?
1:06In other words, how over -medicated do you think we are?
1:09Yeah, and it starts with the over -medicalization of kids.
1:14But, you know, when you look at just SSRIs, just antidepressants, 25 % of the
1:21country is on an SSRI.
1:24And we had one psychiatrist who just flat out said it, not one human being
1:30should be on an SSRI.
1:32They don't work and they have potent side effects.
1:35And so, you know, we could get rid of way more than half of the
1:40prescriptions in this country. What about over -medicating kids?
1:44We talk a lot about gender transition surgeries and the fact that finally people are
1:48recognizing that that doesn't make sense.
1:51But that's actually a tiny pinprick of the amount of drugs that kids are on
1:56these days. It's skyrocketed in the 21st century.
1:59What does the data tell us?
2:01Yeah, we had one of our experts who was working while he was finishing his
2:08medical degree, was working at a state -run institution.
2:13And he had kids as young as three and four that they were putting on
2:17SSRIs. And then when you add to that where we're medicating for ADHD, we have
2:25no clue what this is doing to a developing brain.
2:31And we're not addressing the real problems.
2:35What would you, I know you just did an entire film on it, but let's
2:39pretend that, and I'm sure you have in some ways, you've been able to talk
2:43with the administration. If you had a magic wand, what would the healthiest thing be
2:47to do for America when it comes to drugs and drug prescriptions?
2:53Well, amazingly, the number one thing we can do for our drugs and drug prescriptions
2:58is fix our food supply because that's where it starts.
3:03And so we ended up doing 16 chapters in this documentary where we cover pharmacy
3:10benefit managers, diabetes, cancer, longevity, functional medicine.
3:15And it grew where we had to do about 16, 30 -minute chapters.
3:22So this starts on the 24th, but it goes over nine days just because there
3:28was no way it would fit into a one -and -a -half -hour film.
3:31One of the, I would say, most transcendent and intriguing aspects of the 2024 election
3:38has been this union of Trump supporters and also then a lot of moms that
3:45may not have traditionally been Trump supporters but came in through RFK Jr.
3:50and now have become a part of the Trump movement.
3:54What do you see from, and what do you hear from these moms that are
3:58questioning a lot of what is being told to them about the health of their
4:02kids? Yeah, I was in the room that day in Phoenix when Bobby canceled his
4:09campaign on August 23rd and we were sitting there.
4:14He had wanted some friendly faces in the room, so I had flown out.
4:17And after that, they said, hey, we're all going to a Trump rally.
4:21And 24 hours earlier, I didn't know I was going to be in Phoenix, much
4:24less on the front row of a Trump rally.
4:27And so next thing you know, we're there.
4:29And when President Trump introduced Bobby, that stadium went wild.
4:35And it was just on and on.
4:38And President Trump was stunned.
4:41Bobby was stunned. And that was where Bobby coined the phrase make America healthy again,
4:47impromptu. And the Maha movement was born.
4:52Now, these Maha moms right now are kind of ticked after the presidential order that
4:58President Trump just signed a few days ago making glyphosate in the interest of national
5:08security. So, you know, we definitely want to hold on to these Maha moms and
5:16see what the thinking was behind that.
5:19But I knew when all of a sudden I saw those forces join, and I'm
5:23like, wow, the market for my And I'm like, wow.
5:25And I'm like, wow. material just went up by a factor of a hundred.
5:29When you look at this overall story, which is still in its early days, what
5:36stands out to you? You mentioned the union of Robert F.
5:40Kennedy Jr., the coining of Make America Healthy Again, this movement that has become transformative
5:46for many people out there.
5:48Do you feel as if we are seeing the pinprick of an impact?
5:53Do you think it's going to grow?
5:54Where do we go from here?
5:56Yeah, you never bet against fierce mothers.
5:59So yeah, that's how things are changed is moms protecting their children.
6:05And I think that now that we have Bobby in as Secretary of Health and
6:10Human Services, we have a lot of public support.
6:14If we can depoliticize Maha and just all agree we all want to have healthy
6:19children, I think we can make some changes.
6:22But there's some structural things in the way that medicine is run and food is
6:27run in this country that we're going to have to dismantle and it's going to
6:31take some time. How do people find the movie?
6:34What should they know? How can they see it?
6:37Yeah, we put it up for free.
6:39They can go to mahamovie .com and pre -register.
6:43And on Tuesday the 24th, they'll see in the first chapter is how did we
6:50get here? And it's a fascinating story.
6:53I can't wait to check it out.
6:55We're going to watch it.
6:56Jeff Hayes, thank you so much for taking the time today.
6:59Hey, thank you for having me.
7:02You're listening to Team 47 with Clay and Buck.
7:07We are joined by Stephen Yates.
7:10He's a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a former White House national security official,
7:16our friend, Mr. Yates. Great to have you, sir.
7:18What's going on? Buck, it's great to join you.
7:21Thanks so much. So we want to ask you about whether we're going to war
7:26with Iran. It's a big question.
7:29And the reason we're asking is because, as we know, there are there's sort of
7:33a dual track situation playing out.
7:36On the one hand, there's negotiations, I think, in Geneva.
7:39Sounds sounds right over Iran's nuclear program that the administration is involved in.
7:44And then there's also a buildup, a substantial buildup of military assets, aerial assets, specifically
7:51F -35s, F -22s in the Mideast, prepared for what could be a sustained aerial
8:00campaign against Iran. What do you see happening here?
8:04How do you think this plays out?
8:06Well, Buck, I think that the president and his team are doing far more than
8:11any of its predecessors to kind of increase the chances of a negotiated settlement of
8:18sorts. It's very, very difficult to see there being any security from the nuclear program
8:23under the current regime. That's why the president says that if the regime were to
8:27change, that might be better.
8:28He's not saying he's going to do it.
8:30But the armada that is there is doing two very substantial things.
8:35It is stopping the illegal support for the Iranian regime financially.
8:40That has been a big vulnerability in the past.
8:43And of course, it has the ability to strike hard.
8:45And the president has proven a willingness to do that not very long ago.
8:49So this should increase the chances of a negotiated settlement.
8:53But I have to say, bottom line, I don't see this regime in Iran negotiating
8:57in good faith in an appropriate amount of time.
8:59So I think the odds of a strike that would be an active war, but
9:03not a total war, very high over the next two weeks.
9:07Okay, so what is the goal of the strikes?
9:10Thanks for coming on, Steve.
9:11I mean, I think that is kind of where we dive into next, because the
9:15understanding that we had, and I think it was the right decision on the first
9:20strike, was this is directly attributed to trying to eliminate Iran's nuclear arsenal, right, or
9:28their ability to develop a nuclear arsenal.
9:32Are we trying to replace the Ayatollah with this strike?
9:36Are we still going after nuclear weapons?
9:38I think this needs to be a huge part of the discussion in general is
9:43what is the strategic goal here?
9:45Do you have a sense for that?
9:47And what how do you think the administration goes about making that choice?
9:51Well, I completely agree that it's necessary that we've fought off the ghosts of Iraq
9:58in many, many different ways.
10:00But that idea of making clear what the strategic objective is, and what America's role
10:05is, relative to other countries role, very, very clear.
10:09I think that the targets that they would hit would look more military, so it
10:14would be nuclear, but also some of the ballistic missile and other capabilities to demonstrate
10:19that we can do this, and there's nothing they can do about it.
10:22And knock them back a little bit to maybe buy more time and see whether
10:26they sober up for real negotiations.
10:29There's, I think, this added layer of statements that were made about the atrocities that
10:35are committed by the regime, the human rights violations, and I have deep sympathy for
10:38that, but I don't think that is the proper use of the U .S.
10:41military. I think that's the area that has to be made much, much more clear.
10:46The strike had to be degrading the capabilities of the regime while they have maximum
10:51pressure to degrade the economic capabilities.
10:53abilities of the regime and the rest of the world is going to have to
10:56step in and help handle some of the other elements of the political transformation in
11:00my view you know steve yes the ghosts of the iraq and afghanistan wars loom
11:08large and all these conversations and i think that's uh that's a good thing i
11:13mean in terms of making sure that we don't get pulled into something and i
11:17think trump is very wary of getting pulled into something uh deeper and and in
11:21a much at much greater risk to us and to our people uh than we
11:25want to be so as part of that one of the conversations that i think
11:29keeps coming up and people have been asking me so i want to pose this
11:31to you and get your take on it in venezuela okay we took maduro out
11:37and well took him to a prison cell in new york uh but there was
11:41a clear pathway of other people and really much of the rest of the regime
11:46is in charge there now so there's kind of an ongoing negotiation process about what
11:50will happen and how that country moves forward but the u .s clearly has a
11:54lot of leverage what is the opposition in iran what is do we have any
11:57real sense as to if the mullahs fall if they fall who takes over about
12:05that is the most important issue that they have to work through and i don't
12:09take it as a given that whatever the u .s does in near term is
12:13going to be about regime change i think what they demonstrated in venezuela is that
12:19a step along the way is that we are going to change the maybe the
12:24nature of the current regime and renegotiate sort of the terms of trade and dealing
12:29with the united states and the world and under these new terms maybe we buy
12:33more time for a longer term transition to uh whether it's an opposition or a
12:38reformed country but in venezuela the opposition is not yet in charge it may be
12:43in the not too distant future if there's an election the same goes with iran
12:47i mean the debatification issue in iraq which you know as well as anybody just
12:52is one of the biggest ghosts of the what people think of as a failure
12:56in the iraq strategy keeping some of those institutions in place so there isn't broader
13:01instability and mayhem across the region is one of the priorities they have to have
13:07so i think there could be a move that that gets at the top leadership
13:12and there could be a change to someone else in the regime uh personally i
13:16would love it if this regime went away uh but i personally just think that
13:20the u .s role is to strike hard the way no one else can to
13:24contain fallout as best anyone can but it's the abraham accords countries and others that
13:30really need to be managing more of how do we have an economic and political
13:34relationship that's different with iran we have a lot of iranian listeners on this program
13:39a couple of months ago we opened up the phone lines and said hey what
13:43kind of support is there in your social networks for iranians in the united states
13:48for the royal family to be installed in some way as a holder of power
13:54that is a transition to potentially a new government do you like that idea steve
13:59is that a crazy idea in your mind um again building on what we learned
14:05in iraq sweeping out one group and trying to replace another can be dangerous but
14:10there is some form of nostalgic uh positive reflection on the royal family if only
14:17based on how awful things have been under the mullahs well i agree and that
14:23could be a viable alternative but i think one of the things we felt got
14:27stung in the iraq situation was having a leader that comes into place that is
14:32just viably identified as the american choice and for a lot of the world that
14:39suffers from pretty high dose tds if it's perceived as being trump's choice there could
14:46be a problem of trying to hold coalitions and investment and other security engagements that
14:52are necessary for that transition i think that might explain why we have this muddled
14:56or middle ground approach in venezuela too if the opposition was seen as chosen by
15:00the united states and and our president then there could be uh maybe grounds for
15:05greater resistance so uh a more organic and sort of stepping stones across the river
15:11approach seems to be the way they've gone at that that might be more uh
15:15what they try with iran uh but i do think that looking at viable alternatives
15:21to the theocratic regime uh most of the diaspora agrees with that which is a
15:26fancy way of saying the people who are iranian that live overseas uh and then
15:30i think there are also large parts of persian culture that are not islamist uh
15:35that could work with that kind of an approach but it needs to be seen
15:39and protected as being the iranian people's choice steve i i'm in south florida and
15:46so i gotta ask how shaky do you think the regime in cuba is yeah
15:52i think it's very shaky uh and that's an area where i think oddly while
15:56people wouldn't attach smart power to the make america great again foreign policy i think
16:02that we've out we've used some very effective levers uh that are non -military uh
16:09we've used our military to cut off the oil that is an immense pressure on
16:14them the movement venezuela politically was tied very very close to them so in terms
16:18of political warfare economic warfare and economic security, we've really maxed options.
16:24And so I think we've got the best shot we've had for this external pressure
16:29campaign to maybe give a different path forward.
16:32But what fascinates me is really in Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, and maybe other places, we're
16:38really seeing a very sophisticated approach to easing these transitions without America going in to
16:45push it too far and have it blow up back on us.
16:49Buck asked a good question about Cuba, and I'm utterly fascinated about that.
16:53But also on Iran, you mentioned it.
16:57I think this is important.
16:58There's a big difference oftentimes between what is publicly said and what is privately said,
17:03particularly from the other Middle Eastern countries, Saudi Arabia et al, that clearly have made
17:09the decision they don't like Iran and would like to see changes made there.
17:13Do they actually want the Ayatollah out in your impression?
17:18This is the Saudi Arabia's, the Bahrain's, the UAE's that are just kind of running
17:22all through all these different countries that are technically Muslim countries but are not allied
17:27with Iran. Or do they deep down like the fact that the Ayatollah is such
17:32a disaster that they don't have to worry about Iran as a regional threat so
17:37long as he is there and therefore don't actually want him gone?
17:41Do we have a sense on that?
17:43Well, I think there is a pretty clear sense.
17:46And, you know, in our country, I don't think enough Americans appreciate the fact that
17:50the Iranian regime has threatened to kill our president more than once over the history
17:56of this dispute. That kind of matters.
17:58I mean, just remember, presidents are human beings, but also you just can't allow that
18:03if you are a sovereign power and a global power.
18:06And these other regional allies, believe me, they have suffered under assassination attempts and other
18:13kinds of violence against them.
18:14They have blood feud with the theocratic regime across the water from them in many
18:21cases, some across a border like Iran and Iraq.
18:24It's, I think, very, very clear to them that they would much prefer to have
18:29a reform -oriented government there and they would invest heavily.
18:34And there is a path to peace and prosperity that way, but it's expanding the
18:38ethos of the Abraham Accords.
18:40And under the theocratic regime in Iran, that's not an option.
18:43They support the radical terrorists that attacked Israel and believe in river -to -the -sea
18:48mentality. And that is not compatible with our allies in the Gulf.
18:53Stephen, before we let you go, I'm sure you saw AOC showing up in Munich
18:58to show off her foreign policy skills.
19:02Did not go, I think, as planned.
19:04She was asked about this crazy thing that no one had ever heard of before,
19:08the China -Taiwan conflict and or the possibility of China -Taiwan open conflict.
19:14And her answer was hysterical.
19:16So we appreciate that the humorous component of this was covered.
19:19If you were to give AOC, if you were tutoring her on this issue, say,
19:24hey, here's what you should say.
19:26So you sound like you know what's really going on with China -Taiwan.
19:30What would be your 60 -second or less answer to the question that she turned
19:34into, yeah, like, I mean, they have maps and stuff?
19:39Well, it was mind -blowing.
19:41And if I were her, I would not go to a security conference and try
19:46to do that as a social media influencer.
19:48You better just do a 10 -second search of Grok and probably AI could have
19:54given better talking points. And I'd say you begin with the basics.
20:00Free people who are investing heavily in our country, we should be giving them the
20:05ability to defend themselves as much as humanly possible.
20:07And also, let's hold up some accountability and transparency with China.
20:12At the very least, stand with an ally like Japan and let's see where we
20:16can go and avoid the conflict.
20:18I think she tried to get there.
20:19She couldn't land it. She borderline couldn't even speak.
20:22And I don't know why you go be a speaker at an international security conference
20:25and not prepared for basic questions.
20:27It is funny that you mentioned Grok because she has probably a staff of, how
20:32many people do you think work for AOC?
20:3450? 50? 100? I mean, if you go across everywhere.
20:38I mean, it's a huge number of people.
20:40And she could have just said, hey, how do I answer a question on Taiwan,
20:44on Grok? And it would have given her an infinitely better answer than whatever staff
20:49she had trying to prepare her for that event.
20:51Steve, we appreciate you. We may need you back on when or when war breaks
20:56out. He's going to have to fix the war when it breaks out.
20:58So, yeah. That's right. Thank you.
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21:16President Trump had a black history celebration in the White House.
21:21And a grandma got up.
21:23And she has gone mega viral for what she said.
21:27And you can enjoy that here.
21:29This is a pro -Trump grandma.
21:32Listen. The beautiful bill that's going to change crime in the district.
21:38If you kill somebody, okay, you take a life, you do life.
21:44Just that simple. If you do a harsh crime, you...
21:48Do hush time, just that simple.
21:51And if we need National Guard, and which we did years ago, he brought it
21:57on. I love him. I don't want to hear nothing you got to say about
22:03that racist stuff. And don't be looking at me on the news hating on me
22:07because I'm standing up for somebody that deserves to be standing up for.
22:11Get off the man's back.
22:12Let him do his job.
22:14He's doing the right thing.
22:15Back up off of me.
22:17And Grandma said it. That is the Grandma said it.
22:26A lot of you nodding along out there.
22:28That was yesterday in the White House as President Trump honored black history and actually
22:35spent a decent amount of time, I believe, based on the clips that I saw,
22:38also talking about the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who he got along with.
22:42Trump did quite well and issued a statement that I thought was very kind on
22:49the passing at 84 years old of Jesse Jackson.
22:55One other good bit of news here as we finish the hour, since I'm trying
22:58to look and make sure we got good news.
23:0030 -year mortgage rates are hitting four -year lows today, Buck.
23:05I don't know how much attention it's going to get.
23:07They're still high, right at 6 % on a 30 -year.
23:11And I know many of you out there have got 3%, 3 .5%, 4 %
23:16mortgages, and so you're not going to be moving.
23:19But these mortgage rates coming down to an era before they started to skyrocket because
23:27of Joe Biden's inflation, it is hugely important to the American economy because we have
23:34to get more houses on the market.
23:37Pricing will be more reasonable, all those things.
23:40So many people are not willing to move because of the mortgages that they have.
23:43We get them back down to 5%.
23:45It's going to make a tremendous difference.
23:47We could be moving in that direction at some time this year.
23:51But mortgage rates 30 years have hit a four -year low, worth mentioning for people
23:57out there as the spring shopping season for homes gets closer and closer.
24:02I think there may be a little bit more thawing because so many people are
24:06just not willing to move based on the 15 - and 30 -year mortgage rates
24:10that they got. I know a bunch of you are nodding along right now because
24:13you're saying, hey, I can sell my home, but I'm going to have to pay
24:16way more in mortgage rates no matter where I move.
24:19And that is often true for a lot of people out there.
24:22So that is worth mentioning and is positive.
24:30Very nice. Everyone can sleep soundly at night knowing that the mortgage rate has dropped
24:36some basis points. Here, by the way, we've said a lot of positive things about
24:40Buck's book, which is surging the bestseller list.
24:44A VIP did find a typo, Buck.
24:47And because this audience is more obsessed with grammar than anyone, he felt compelled to
24:53write in. The book is excellent.
24:55But just letting you know that contact tracing was spelled contract tracing on page eight.
25:03Buck, how dare you? That typo, I caught it when I was doing the audio
25:08book of Manufacturing Delusion, which you should all go download if you have not already.
25:12Go get that audio book.
25:15But Clay, when I was reading it, that one that one hit me hard, man.
25:18That one was that was the one type of thing about doing an audio book
25:23is you see things that you want to fix and it's too late because they're
25:27off to the printer already.
25:28I have read I read the manuscript, the final manuscript.
25:32I had 30 times through, I mean, so many to the point where it was
25:37like, like, I just my eyes were falling out of my head and I didn't
25:41catch that one. So that was the one typo that we weren't able to fix
25:45that I knew was there.
25:46But I promise next edition, it'll be gone.
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