Hour 1 - Epstein Files Fallout
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1:00The new season of Scrubs.
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1:05Welcome in everybody. Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show.
1:12Kicks off right now. Got some things to discuss with all of you.
1:16We've got the continuing Epstein fallout of all the documents, including Bill Clinton's deposition now.
1:27Something we can discuss here.
1:28Hillary Clinton testifying. Clay, just as a follow -up.
1:33Remember when they said that some photo got leaked?
1:36Apparently it was being recorded.
1:37And so it just, the photo came out in advance of the recorded session.
1:42So it was really just a total tempest in a teapot.
1:44The whole thing was absurd.
1:45No surprise with any of that.
1:47More on the Trump -USA hockey relationship.
1:53Awesomeness for Americans who love America.
1:55But there are some, there are some sad, sad exclamation point, malcontents out there who
2:04do not love fun, America, gold medals, hockey.
2:09And they are annoyed about this.
2:11Including one athlete who only ever gets attention anymore for being one of those people
2:16who is a malcontent and cannot celebrate the greatness of USA, USA without raining on
2:23the parade a bit. Another update on the NYPD snowball assault situation, which I have
2:31to say, I am gratified that at least some people, well, we are certainly, but
2:36the police commissioner was taking it very seriously.
2:39But as I warned you, I saw this one coming.
2:43It's not up to the police commissioner whether these individuals get punished or not.
2:47So we will give you the latest on that.
2:50Some Immigrations and Customs Enforcement updates.
2:54And then Paramount takes over Warner Brothers.
2:56Clay, our media M &A expert, is going to explain why this matters.
3:02This is one of those things where truly, I don't even know.
3:05He knows, he could run the org chart for all these places from his head.
3:10Like he actually knows who's in charge and who owns what.
3:13I don't even, it was like Viacom, Discovery Channel, Movie Studio, something or other.
3:20I don't know any of this stuff.
3:21I think it's going to be a big deal.
3:23We'll dive into that. But I think probably the number one story right now, as
3:27we were just talking about off air, Buck, is Bill Clinton is testifying in the
3:32Epstein probe. Yesterday was Hillary.
3:35Today is Bill Clinton. And so let me give you my take, and then everybody
3:39can be angry at it.
3:40Oh yes, here we go.
3:41Nothing is going to come of this.
3:43Bill Clinton is going to answer questions as a smart attorney would, denying, he's already
3:50put out a public statement, denying that he had any knowledge of it at all,
3:54wagging his finger at all of us like he did with Monica Lewinsky.
3:57And it's going to be basically impossible to prove that he did anything wrong.
4:02Let me tell you where this is going, because I do think this is significant,
4:05and we'll open up the phone lines if people want to weigh in.
4:10The Jeffrey Epstein case, whatever you might have thought of it in the past, is
4:15now the primary method by which Democrats are attacking Donald Trump.
4:19And it is illegitimate, and it is not based in reality, but they have used
4:26anger on the right and some anger on the left, and they are just trying
4:32to channel that anger into Trump.
4:35And they are using Steele dossier like BS, Russia collusion like BS, Brett Kavanaugh accusation
4:43like BS, to now attack President Trump, who did nothing of any criminal nature at
4:51all. So that is where we are.
4:53That's a very important observation.
4:55I agree with nothing is going to come from this.
4:58I'm always the womp womp guy here.
5:00I told you nothing is going to come of the JFK files.
5:02Nothing is going to come of the Epstein files.
5:05Let me be clear. That's not the same as saying, I don't think that we
5:08should have transparency into them.
5:10Sure. But if there was something in there that could be charged, they would have
5:15charged it. They're not going to release files that say, oh, here's this, like, super
5:21powerful rich guy who's actually an underage sex.
5:24and we just didn't even think about this till now of course there's nothing in
5:30there that they're going to charge there are things that are unsavory there are things
5:35that are make you think you know people have lost jobs and and uh professorships
5:40and you know this is there's fallout for sure but the fallback fallout is for
5:45being a scumbag and to be clear not for criminal behavior people are suffering consequences
5:52now and you can make of this what you will but i do think there's
5:56a little bit of a moral panic going on where you have some people who
6:00are having to defend themselves on the trump side of things who didn't do anything
6:06yeah but because they're in the hepstein files and this has been turned into this
6:11you know giant uh conspiracy of global cover -up and everything else um you know
6:17you have to go with the facts and you have to be clear and precise
6:20on this clay to what you're saying this is the primary way that people who
6:26hate you and everything that donald trump is trying to accomplish for you is trying
6:32to cleave trump from the base with this is their weapon right now they go
6:39epstein epstein epstein and they say that this as if like trump is somehow the
6:44guy who is implicated he's if anything he's implicated in being the one guy who's
6:49like epstein's a scumbag why aren't you guys doing more about this 15 years ago
6:53and yet clay democrats recognize that this is now a tool that they can use
7:00through misrepresenting what's in there and it also goes to why did trump not really
7:05want to get into this why did trump look at some of this and realize
7:09you know what's going to happen here you're going to get a lot of a
7:12lot of people are just going to come to conclusions about this that aren't in
7:15evidence and then democrats are going to say see it's all trump or he's still
7:20covering it up or he his name is in there they're going to misrepresent this
7:24to suggest that donald trump is like the primary epstein suspect number one when that's
7:30the opposite of what the files actually shows about donald trump yeah i think what
7:36you said is important people who uh are trump supporters are being used uh through
7:43the epstein files to attack trump and here's two big things that i think are
7:47here and again the story today is president clinton former president clinton is testifying um
7:54i don't think anything's going to come of this i don't think anything's going to
7:58come of the hillary clinton uh mess was it unseemly yes uh was it criminal
8:04in nature i don't think so based on everything that i've seen i think it
8:08would be very hard to charge people criminally here are two big facts that i
8:12think are important that are not getting talked about enough the trump doj charged epstein
8:18i don't know why no one is talking about this the trump doj these charges
8:23that came down against jeffrey epstein they were brought by the donald trump department of
8:29justice in 2019 when trump was still in office nobody was charging epstein nothing was
8:36being done the trump doj charged him this is after the uh the the the
8:41pleading guilty to uh the interaction with i think it was like what alan dershowitz
8:47told us was a 17 and a half year old masseuse for sexual uh sexual
8:52assault in that case in some way so point one soliciting a prostitute was actually
8:58the charge soliciting an underage prostitute yeah trump's department of justice charged epstein uh is
9:04point one point two joe biden's department of justice had all of these files for
9:10four years not one democrat demanded that they release all these files not one democrat
9:17demanded that there be any sort of public investigation surrounding epstein at all again trump's
9:24doj charged epstein in 2019 which led to his death when he was eventually in
9:29custody suicide according to the fbi biden's department of justice had these files kept them
9:35private for four years did nothing with them and no democrat made any demands whatsoever
9:40so why do i bring both of those things up uh do you think that
9:46if there had been evidence of criminal uh wrongdoing that biden's doj wouldn't have charged
9:51trump in a heartbeat they tried to bankrupt and imprison him uh for the rest
9:56of his life can i just add to this i don't want to stop your
9:58flow they made up crimes to charge him with on other things you don't think
10:02that they would love to nail him as a sex criminal they would have killed
10:06maga as a movement in one fell swoop no of course they didn't have anything
10:10on him so again trump's doj charged epstein biden's doj had these files private for
10:15four years not one democrat said anything i think you need to be smart and
10:19i think you need to ask yourself wait a minute why now do all these
10:23democrats claim that they care so much about jeffrey epstein when they didn't say one
10:27word when biden's department of justice had all these files for four years because trump
10:32is right it's being used as a way to attack trump and they're using a
10:37lot of trump supporters as the fuel under which they are making these attacks i
10:42just think might make some people uncomfortable we'll open up uh phone lines but that
10:46is the reality of where we are right now i also think buck we're dealing
10:51with a you He too like feeding frenzy.
10:55I'll give you an example.
10:56Howard Lutnick, whatever you think about him, and I don't know Howard Lutnick personally, he
11:02took his family on a boat and his kids to have lunch with Jeffrey Epstein
11:08in the Caribbean. You might not like that, but the idea that he's in some
11:12way engaged in some sort of nefarious underage sex ring when he took his own
11:18children and his wife to have lunch on the Caribbean island when he was on
11:23a boat in the Caribbean, if your name is in there, it's a feeding frenzy
11:29like the Me Too thing where people don't actually look at the accusations and details
11:33themselves. But also this is why the dishonesty of Democrats about this, the Epstein list,
11:40when you're really looking at who knew about his criminal conviction and that he was
11:46a scumbag and that there was stuff here because they spent a lot of time
11:50with him and they really liked him.
11:52It is a who's who of Democrats.
11:55It's a who's who of Democrats on the Epstein list and all they are trying
11:59to do is go Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
12:01They are running a propaganda op, my friends.
12:05This is why you have to get manufacturing delusion because I explain in the propaganda
12:10chapter exactly the tactics that they are using here.
12:14It doesn't matter what the facts are.
12:16It doesn't matter what's really in the files.
12:18They are going fire hose of falsehood.
12:21This is all about Trump.
12:23And Clay, to your point, this is very important.
12:24They are setting Trump's own supporters after him and after his people on this for
12:31months now. And we've been fielding a lot of the angry emails and calls too.
12:36First of all, we're two guys sitting here in t -shirts talking about things.
12:41I have no power to release DOJ files.
12:44I'm glad that they've released the files, but I want to point something out.
12:47Now what's happened is that there are a lot of people who are being essentially
12:54smeared for any association with Epstein whatsoever.
12:58I'm talking about a pretty de minimis one.
13:00I mean, imagine in the P.
13:01Diddy case. Think of all the people P.
13:03Diddy. P. Diddy, what he was doing was disgusting.
13:05He's a disgraceful deviant who's now in prison.
13:08There are some people that knew and that participated and that were probably complicit in
13:13his crimes. And there were a lot of people who went to his fancy parties.
13:17Is everybody who is in P.
13:19Diddy's orbit equally guilty? No, of course not.
13:23But what you're seeing with the Epstein thing is a lot of selective focusing of
13:27attention on Trump, on Lutnik, irrespective of what the facts actually show.
13:33And I think this is what Trump was concerned about all along and he was
13:36right. All of that is true.
13:39I would add in the reason why a lot of people aren't being honest with
13:43you across a lot of media about this is because much like in Me Too,
13:50if you speak out, a lot of people are afraid that they're going to become
13:54targets. So there's a lot of people out there who agree with 100 % of
13:58everything that Buck and I just said in media and they won't tell it to
14:02you because they're afraid that suddenly everybody's going to target them.
14:06Much like in Me Too, I'll give you an example.
14:08The Matt Damon one was a good one.
14:10Remember when Matt Damon came out and said, hey, you know, there's a big difference
14:14between grabbing some woman's butt at a party and rape.
14:18And we should keep in mind that every accusation in Me Too is not the
14:23same. And remember he got ripped to shreds by people in Hollywood who said, oh,
14:28no, no, no. There is no difference at all.
14:30Like, wait a minute. You know, the whole reason we have a criminal justice system
14:35is because there is a difference between grabbing a girl's butt at a party and
14:40actual rape. And Matt Damon tried to say that in the middle of Me Too
14:44and they ripped him to shreds for it.
14:46And a lot of other people just said, I'm not going to touch it because
14:49I'm not going to get targeted.
14:50And we're entering moral panic phase now with the Epstein thing.
14:54If you want more, you know, I don't know what transparency even would mean at
14:57this point. I mean, there's millions.
14:58Have people have people wanting more transparency even read 10 of the files that have
15:02been released? I mean, that's another question here.
15:05But, you know, if you want more answers, that's I respect.
15:08If you want to know how the DOJ screwed this up so badly the first
15:10time around, meaning the release of the documents, that was a total.
15:14And we called them out for that.
15:15It was a, you know, a PR disaster.
15:18But there's a difference than a PR disaster and being a pedo protector.
15:23Which is what I, and I'm seeing people on our, at least ostensibly on the
15:27right who are saying this about some of the top Trump people.
15:32And I'm just like, you know, we know some of these people.
15:36You know, if you think, this is what I was trying to say.
15:38Even when there was all that heat, remember there was all that heat on our
15:41friend Dan Bongino when he was doing this.
15:43And we're like, no guys, he's trying.
15:44I promise you he's trying.
15:46If you think Dan Bongino is protecting pedos, you're a moron.
15:50Trump, okay? He's not. And I just have to speak honestly to people about this.
15:55If you think that's happening, you are in the midst of a manufactured delusion, okay?
16:00None of them, 15 years.
16:02Okay? Trust me. It's like the last guy who's going to, you know, bend the
16:06knee on something like that when it comes to protecting kids.
16:09Crazy. But people are, and Trump.
16:12I just, I start to lose with it.
16:14So. No, but I think it's important.
16:15So the Clinton thing is going on.
16:18We'll open up phone lines.
16:19You can disagree with everyone.
16:20everything we just said, we are right.
16:22And I understand that the Trump administration has not been perfect.
16:26Pam Bondi, the biggest mishap of year one was Pam Bondi trying to answer questions
16:31about this. And there are lots of people in media who have tried to convince
16:35a lot of people that there's some sort of pedophile ring that's running around and
16:41everything else. The evidence shows that there were a lot of rich guys that wanted
16:45access to 20 year old models.
16:48I mean, that's like 90 % of the women.
16:51And that doesn't make you a bad, evil, criminal person.
16:54If you want to be with a 25 Victoria, 25 year old Victoria's secret model,
16:57you're like 90 % of, you know, single guys in America.
17:02Okay. That there's nothing wrong with that.
17:04You might think it's skeevy if you're a married guy or something that's different, but
17:08you know, we just need to have these distinctions.
17:10All right. I know. Take the calls.
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19:19Welcome back in. Quick turn here.
19:22We will take your calls.
19:23It is Friday and we will have a ton of reaction from all of you.
19:29You don't have to agree.
19:30Producer Greg says we are flooded already with talkbacks.
19:33Every line is ringing simultaneously.
19:35800 -282 -2882. Can I just say, anyone who's going to call in or whatever
19:40and say, can we stop at the Epstein stuff?
19:41We've been trying. We've been trying for months.
19:44We've been telling you that nothing is going to happen.
19:46Nothing is going to come out of this.
19:47People are so angry about this when you tell them what is true.
19:52They want to be told what people were told for a long time before, which
19:57was the whole big ring of evildoers is going to come down.
20:00That's not happening. No doubt.
20:03But we will take your calls.
20:04We'll react. Again, Bill Clinton in a deposition right now as we speak relating to
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20:58All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck.
21:00So we're talking about the things going on, including the – look, you're asking why
21:06we're talking about it? Because there's testimony on Capitol Hill about this right now.
21:10People demanded this. They want this.
21:12Okay, so now we have Hillary up there, and here she is telling everybody her
21:17version of what went on at this deposition.
21:20This is cut six. You can hear it from Hillary herself.
21:24Go for it. Do you believe this was a fair hearing, and do you still
21:29want to testify publicly, even though you did this deposition?
21:31Well, I'm not going to do it again.
21:33You know, they had a chance to do it in public, and I wish they
21:36had done it in public.
21:37And I think they're making the wrong decision avoiding doing it in public.
21:42I thought it was very repetitive.
21:44I thought that they asked literally the same questions.
21:47He said do it again.
21:47He said do it again.
21:47over and over again which didn't seem to me to be very productive toward the
21:52end you know there were other questions that were totally off uh subject so if
21:57if they are going to fulfill their responsibilities to literally investigate the investigations which is
22:03what they originally said was the scope of their work i think they could have
22:08spent the day more productively okay that is hillary they didn't lay a glove on
22:14her is the point here folks okay there's does she sound like she's rattled after
22:18this does she sound like oh they really got the big one they really finally
22:22nailed me i you know this well let's let's keep you know we just keep
22:26going more more capitol hill people demand it people demand it so we'll do more
22:29of these depositions look i i think well we got a bunch of callers that
22:34want to weigh in a bunch of talk back um all right uh all right
22:41this is i think a good uh good email guy epstein is now the number
22:47one tool to defeat republicans in the midterms we won't know till the elections are
22:51over but the democrats will pound it for the next six months the problem republicans
22:56really have no way to effectively fight this big problem for trump in the midterms
23:01democrats know it i actually don't i i do agree that democrats are going to
23:05try to pound it because they have sensed vulnerability but the reality is again trump's
23:12doj charged epstein and biden's doj had these files and didn't release them for four
23:18years and nobody talked about it i would just hammer that over and over and
23:23over again um let's see uh andrew in arizona uh k fy i g uh
23:31is he cursing do we block these out i don't know uh let's see andrew
23:35man i get why you guys are talking about it today because uh hillary and
23:41bill but can we just stop with the epstein man no minds are going to
23:47change on either side so it doesn't matter no charges like you said will ever
23:52be brought why do we keep bringing it up there's a bunch of sick in
23:57there yeah we get it get the over it i mean i i i gotta
24:03say i crew with andrew i think i think andrew is correct andrew is an
24:08astute political analyst i think andrew sees this as andrew i'm i'm with you and
24:13if i could curse on on the air and not get a big fine i
24:15probably would too but we the demands and you're saying look we're not choosing for
24:19this to lose the uh to run the news cycle today because we're also you
24:23have a former presidential candidate a former two -term president bill clinton are being forced
24:29to testify about this okay that's what's going on right now in dc this is
24:34a politics and current events for a show this is happening right now so here
24:40we are here's the flip side john in minneapolis he's furious with us this is
24:45cut h guys what in the f are you talking about like there's there isn't
24:53much in there there's a world of things in there let's start with all the
24:57blacked out things and then you can start moving on to like i don't know
25:01the 500 references to pizza and stuff like that are you pretending this stuff just
25:08doesn't exist in the world it's it's kind of maddening to hear what the hell
25:14does that even mean i'm just i'm really like just tell us what you're saying
25:17john we i love that you listen to the show and i appreciate that you
25:21give us your time but i need you to say things to us that i
25:25can understand what you're trying there's 500 references to pizza i think he's trying to
25:30say a pizza gate connection um i mean look this is every email that they
25:36have from uh from epstein and a lot of times he's just talking about pizza
25:41man um i i just have to tell you but like you said pizza i
25:45i know he's referring to pizza but what so what what's this that there's there's
25:48still some huge conspiracy that there was like a a child sex ring in in
25:53the parlor of or in the basement of a pizzeria in the dc area and
25:56that the global elites have been covering that like does somebody really believe this still
26:00we're we're still there guys come on now i this is you know what this
26:04is a big boy show we have big boy thoughts here we don't have to
26:07agree but we have big boy thoughts on the big boy show there is based
26:12on everything that i have seen no actual charges that can be brought against anybody
26:17and to buck's point i actually think this is a good one and nobody talks
26:20about it if every email that p diddy sent over the last 15 years was
26:27suddenly released every somewhat famous person in hollywood probably was interacting with p diddy or
26:34his agents um and p diddy has been convicted of uh a variety of crimes
26:40he got not convicted of of several of them i don't know when he's going
26:43to be out of of prison um but being in and you and i are
26:49not in it so uh again i think we're kind of hey we're we're we're
26:53clear on the epstein files like the only people in media that are not named
26:58uh in the there are people in right -wing media who are very much not
27:01clear i'm not going to name any names because i want to play that game
27:04but i'm just saying it's not like there are people that you know they're in
27:08there that's all i'm saying but we're not in there uh so there are no
27:13crimes that can be prosecuted and i i just i i get what this story
27:21is the epstein story to me is jeffrey epstein realized that he had a modeling
27:27agency and if he had constant access to attractive women it was going to help
27:32him build connections across all of the uh all of the powerful worlds of media
27:39and business and everything else and guess what he was right and that's one of
27:43the coins of the realm that he used was he was a uh uh inveterate
27:49networker who wanted to find ways to be connected to powerful people and the way
27:55that he found to do it to make more money to be more connected was
27:59to if you read about it he had access to a modeling agency and a
28:03lot of these women who were of age he was pimping out in many ways
28:08to rich and powerful guys but again that they're pimping out may actually even be
28:13too too because it's never been asserted that he ever used force or threats against
28:18any of these women or was directly paid for sexual uh and again talking about
28:24the adults to be clear we're talking about adult women here okay 18 plus women
28:28that he was involved with he never threatened or or uh physically abused any of
28:34the adult women as far as i understand if i'm wrong we'll correct that and
28:38and what we would say also is the women who are alleging that they were
28:42victims of crime i think this is important i've talked about it before and this
28:46is me having been and still being a lawyer who has been involved in cases
28:51like these in the past these women were paid hundreds of millions of dollars by
28:57jeffrey epstein's estate by different banks that helped to facilitate the movement of cash uh
29:03associated with jeffrey epstein and they are able at any point in time to name
29:09people who committed crimes against them and they have refused to do so my argument
29:16would be if if to anybody out there if someone commits a crime against you
29:21you actually are doing a disservice by not naming that person or those persons because
29:27they're likely to commit crimes against other people so my argument here is and people
29:32say well they signed ndas and in you can't sign it unenforceable they're unenforceable and
29:38everybody knows it so the nda argument doesn't pan out elon musk has actually said
29:44if you're concerned about legal cost he has said i will cover the legal cost
29:50for anyone that wants to bring lawsuits so this story when you actually unpack it
29:57there are a lot of people that have come to believe a lot of things
30:02that there is not evidence for and my point is again i think this is
30:06important i want to circle back to it trump's doj charged epstein and jelaine maxwell
30:11jelaine maxwell was convicted because of charges brought by trump 1 .0's uh doj and
30:19again if you think democrats have the best interest of the country at heart here
30:23biden's doj had these files they kept them private for four years they did nothing
30:29to release them suddenly trump is in office and democrats are arguing that trump is
30:35to blame that he's done something wrong with epstein again it's me too russiagate all
30:40over again there's some blame here on the right this is true there's some blame
30:45on the right and blame on trump for this too for i think over promising
30:52on the the swift and powerful wave of justice that would come along with these
31:01revelations etc i think a lot of people feel like they were and this is
31:06again i agree with this sentiment and there are people in right -wing media who
31:10are not you know pedo protectors but i think they got and i'll say this
31:16i believe that there was a much broader epstein conspiracy i i did believe that
31:20and i still think that there are things that we don't know and i still
31:23think that there are guys who were in the epstein orbit who probably did cross
31:29that line into illegality but we do not have proof and it is immoral to
31:36ruin a person's life never mind lock them up for something as serious as that
31:42or to do that for any reason unless you have proof there's a reason we
31:46have a we had plenty of proof on jeffrey epstein they had proof of epstein
31:49just being a pedophile based on all the um child abuse exploitation material they found
31:55in him he he was going to get 20 years to life just on the
31:58stuff that they found in his safe never mind the actual physical acts that he
32:03had done with underage girls so we know that epstein everyone agrees he was a
32:06pedophile a true pedophile everyone agrees he was a very bad guy an evil guy
32:11there are people that covered their eyes a little too much and spent a little
32:15too much time around him that's gross and if you want to fire a person
32:19for that or not associate them that's fine that's not a crime and these are
32:24distinctions that still matter it still does matter if someone broke the law or not
32:28if you want more transparency on this or rather you want to know why is
32:32trump's doj why are there some things that are blacked out they have said it
32:36is because of victim protection it is because of personal details because you're also now
32:42at risk of having people you mentioned howard lutnik howard lutnik from everything we've seen
32:47did less than nothing wrong okay i mean howard lutnik is this preposterous that but
32:52they drag his name into this they're trying to destroy people's reputations who don't deserve
32:57it and i so you saw some of this with the kavanaugh stuff too was
33:01oh you're protecting a rapist no actually brett kavanaugh based on all the actual facts
33:06evidence or really the lack of any facts uh evidence against him clearly was not
33:10a rapist clearly had done nothing wrong epstein clearly bad clearly a pedophile he's dead
33:16that's that gian maxwell clearly complicit involved she's in prison are there going to be
33:22charges against other people just show the evidence even we don't have the evidence though
33:27that's where it stops even the charges that have been brought in england are about
33:33leaking information they're not about sex that's just political cover you know that's cya politically
33:39has nothing to do with sex crimes for andrew because andrew and this is the
33:43thing you can say to people and they completely andrew even first of all he
33:47says that he didn't do it and you know there's actually no proof that he
33:51did it to be clear it is a you know other than there's the accusation
33:54from the woman but they don't have the proof that he did the thing that
33:57they said that he did um and he's never been charged with that yeah why
34:02hasn't he been charged with that everybody well do they have the evidence show the
34:07evidence what is the evidence an accusation alone is usually not enough to throw someone
34:11in prison for 20 years we'll take your calls we'll take some of your talkbacks
34:16uh again president my frustration clay is there's you know we might go to war
34:19with iran this weekend and people just like what do you want us to do
34:23like what these members of congress are like we're gonna really rake hillary over the
34:28coals no you're not hillary's gonna smoke you uh hillary is no no uh spring
34:33chicken you know she's not new to this game you're gonna what she's gonna be
34:36like you know what you're right i was right there with gilane trafficking women what
34:40is the point of putting her in a deposition they're gonna get nothing and they
34:44got nothing i agree and i think it's likely to be the case with bill
34:49clinton too but he is under oath right now uh so we will see what
34:53ends up coming out of that but that is the lead story everywhere we'll take
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37:14it is friday open lines a lot of talkbacks coming as well judy in kentucky
37:20what you got for us hi clay i just i haven't heard anyone remember uh
37:31clinton when he was president standing and saying that he had not had any relations
37:37with monica lominski the young female i just don't trust him with anything he has
37:43to say about this that's that's all i've got to say well judy look we
37:48agree with you that he's he's a he's a look bill clinton is probably a
37:52sex addict and is a an inveterate liar is that the right word inveterate liar
37:57i think that works though there yeah yeah yeah um there's no doubt about that
38:01the point is what do you think bill clinton's gonna all of a sudden get
38:04religion and start telling the truth about this stuff in a in a deposition with
38:08members of congress right i mean that's that's why I'm just, what are we doing
38:12here? I've said this before.
38:13I used to do sexual harassment investigations.
38:18I would go listen, and sometimes the women I thought were telling the truth.
38:24Sometimes they were not. Every woman was accusing a man.
38:28I interviewed lots of men.
38:31Do you know how many times the men told me that they had sexually harassed
38:34the women, Buck? Zero. They never, like, the idea, and I get it, but the
38:39idea that suddenly in a question and answer session, a guy is suddenly going to
38:45say, hey, you know what?
38:47You got me. I committed, you know, something that's going to cost me my job,
38:50or in the case of Bill Clinton here, he's going to admit under oath something
38:54that could lead to criminal charges.
38:56It just, it doesn't happen.
38:59Vince in Florida, what you got for us?
39:02Yeah, Clay. Clay and Buck, I listen to you guys every day.
39:07You're great. So, I retired from Department of Homeland Security, and from all my knowledge
39:17and investigations, I can tell you this Epstein file is going to be a big
39:22nothing burger. There's going to be no prosecutions.
39:27Just like, if we all recall, Hillary Clinton destroying the server in her basement, busting
39:34up cell phones, what happened there?
39:37Nothing. Benghazi, what happened? Nothing.
39:42So, you know, and Bill getting up there, the definition of is, is?
39:49Oh, yeah. Well, you're right.
39:51I mean, in my opinion, it's Buck.
39:52I think you're right, sir.
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