Hour 2 - Trump's Texas Tactics
3/5/202637 mincomplete
0:00This is an iHeart Podcast.
0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome in. Hour number two.
0:06Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
0:09We appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
0:11We're going to talk with Ryan Gerdusky in the third hour.
0:14We were just talking with Yael Eckstein in Israel in the first hour of the
0:20program. Let's talk about a couple of things here, Buck, that I think are interesting
0:26on the American political front.
0:30First of all, the fallout of what happened in the Texas primary on Tuesday has
0:38led to reports that President Trump is potentially going to endorse and that he is
0:44ready to have a nominee in the Senate in Texas.
0:50What is that telling us about the landscape in general?
0:54I think it is that President Trump is really seriously focused on preserving the majority
1:02in the Senate. The House, I think, is going to be more challenging because there
1:08are a lot of different races to focus on.
1:11In the Senate, we've got a 53 -47 advantage for the Republicans right now.
1:17Now, given that J .D.
1:18Vance breaks the ties, that means that Democrats would have to pick up four different
1:23seats. And if you look at the way the landscape of the different states are
1:29setting up, Maine is going to be tough for Susan Collins.
1:33That is a blue state that I know they break it up and that there
1:37is a red part of that blue state.
1:40But Susan Collins seems to be almost the only Republican that can win in Maine
1:45right now. You've got a really difficult race shaping up in North Carolina, open Senate
1:50seat. Michael Watley is going to be going up against Roy Cooper.
1:54Roy Cooper is a popular former governor who has been elected statewide before.
1:58So that is going to be a tough battle.
2:02And then you've got Georgia, which is probably the best opportunity of Republicans to pick
2:08off an existing seat where Ossoff is running.
2:11But you start to run through all these different maps and it almost becomes impossible
2:18for Democrats to win control of the Senate if Texas is preserved.
2:23And so I think President Trump is making a calculated decision about what exactly he
2:30wants to do to preserve that Senate majority.
2:33And you say, okay, what's going on with that Senate majority?
2:35I think there's a decent chance, Buck, that one of the older Supreme Court justices,
2:40maybe even more than one of the older Supreme Court justices, decides to step down.
2:46Given the fact that we have basic majority gets a Supreme Court justice life tenure,
2:52I don't know how long it's going to be until Republicans have control of the
2:56Senate and the presidency. Again, might happen this year, but you would like to have
3:01it happen for the next couple of years, given the ages that everybody is in
3:05the Senate right now. So there's going to be a lot of focus on the
3:09House, and we know what they will do.
3:10They will impeach. It will become difficult to get anything through Congress at all.
3:15I would argue it's very difficult to get everything through Congress now.
3:18But Ken Paxton, who we just reached out to to invite on the program, has
3:23just said he would drop out of the Senate race if the SAVE Act were
3:29passed and they ended the filibuster in order to do so.
3:34I think this is an intriguing political situation that we're in because John Thune now,
3:40the leader of the Senate, is put on the hot seat a bit here because
3:46he knows that basically his preservation of a Senate majority is almost guaranteed if they
3:51pass the SAVE Act. But that is the challenge that we face.
3:57And again, we have an offer out to Paxton.
4:00There have been reports that Trump is going to endorse Cornyn, the sitting incumbent.
4:05One bit of update for all of you out there.
4:08There is a live press conference update in Austin, Texas, on the shooter that killed
4:16multiple people in an Austin nightclub bar shooting scene.
4:21And so we are running on that and we will get you an update on
4:27that information. Although, Buck, I think, as we said on the program, when you show
4:30up in an Iranian t -shirt, kind of a suggestion that maybe you're acting out
4:37as a basis of terrorism for that behavior.
4:41So we will talk about all of that.
4:45Now, what's your assessment here, Buck, as you analyze this?
4:50Again, the Texas Senate, to me, it's the larger story here is President Trump sees
4:56that Texas Senate seat if it's in Republican hands.
4:59The map just doesn't add up for Democrats very easily.
5:05Maybe you get Maine. Maybe you get North Carolina.
5:08You might be favored there.
5:09But then you would have to flip Ohio.
5:11You would have to flip Texas.
5:13We just had Steve Daines step down in Montana.
5:15But Montana would be a tough flip.
5:17And that presumes that you win the toss -ups in Trump states, in Georgia, in
5:23Michigan, that kind of... map.
5:25Iowa's out there, too, but seems difficult.
5:27I think Trump feels, if he has Texas in his back pocket, that the Senate
5:32majority is confirmed, and I think that's motivating a lot of his actions.
5:37Yeah, I think that the Senate's looking good for Republicans overall.
5:40I think that you are going to have a tougher time with the House, and
5:46this is the conventional wisdom that everyone has on this, because it's probably going to
5:50be the case. I would say James Tallarico, here he is.
5:56This is cut seven. He says, they're going to call me a radical leftist and
6:00a fake Christian. Maybe because you are, James, but let's talk about this.
6:05Play seven. They're scared of the movement we are building.
6:08They're going to throw everything they have at us.
6:10They're going to call me a radical leftist.
6:12They're going to call me a fake Christian.
6:15They'll call our movement un -Texan, un -American.
6:19They'll call us a threat.
6:20The only truth is, we are a threat.
6:23We're a threat to their corrupt system.
6:262 ,000 years ago, when the powerful few at the top hurt those at the
6:32bottom, that barefoot rabbi didn't stay in his room and pray.
6:36He walked into the seat of power and flipped over the tables of injustice.
6:42To those who love this state, to those who love this country, to those who
6:47love our neighbors, it's time to start flipping tables.
6:51Oh, just comparing himself to Jesus.
6:54This guy, very humble, very humble fellow.
6:56James Tallarico, this tweet has been getting more attention.
6:59This was him speaking, or rather tweeting, after the Ahmaud Arbery case.
7:08He wrote, this is in 2020, white skin gives me and every white American immunity
7:16from the virus, but we spread it wherever we go through our words, our actions,
7:22and our systems. We don't have to be showing symptoms like a white hood or
7:27a confederate flag to be contagious.
7:31Our inherent racism as white people, Clay, is contagious, and we have to seek to
7:37contain that contagion by just having our white skin.
7:41This guy doesn't think he's a leftist?
7:43I really want to ask the question, between the, God is trans or non -binary,
7:48you got to trans the kids.
7:50Abortion is exactly what Jesus had in mind.
7:54He just loves abortion. It's great to kill babies.
7:57And white skin is a form of contagion that pollutes society everywhere it goes.
8:02If these are all his positions, if he is not a leftist, who is a
8:08leftist? I want to know, if he is not to the left of the Democrat
8:11Party, who is? I'm just curious.
8:13I'm going to say this, and some of you are going to say you can't
8:16be serious, Clay. I'm serious.
8:17I think he may be crazier than Jasmine Crockett.
8:20Oh, no, I think so, too.
8:22I think so, too. It's possible that this guy is further left wing than Jasmine
8:28Crockett was, and I think he's crazier.
8:31I mean, he posted, did you see this?
8:33I shared this. In December of 2021, he said his favorite Christmas gift was a
8:40Dr. Fauci action figure, and he said that everybody in Texas needed to make sure
8:45that they got their COVID shot and had gotten their most recent round of boosters.
8:50December of 21. Yeah, that's, you know, December of 21 is a lot of people,
8:56you know, March, April, 2020, you go back in time.
8:59By May of 2020, somehow you and I were smart enough to be able to
9:03deduce everything that had to do with COVID.
9:05So I'm giving people passes in March and April of 2020, and kind of the
9:10confusion of the moment. But by May of 2020, like, the whole COVID game, the
9:16rig job should have been apparent if you were paying attention.
9:19December of 21, posting a Fauci action figure, you are a committed left winger.
9:26And you mentioned this a little bit in the first hour, but I think Tallarico
9:29actually is a interesting dynamic because it feels very much like Tim Walls.
9:38This is people who are leftist, left wing women, largely trying to pick guys that
9:47they think will appeal to normal guys and failing miserably because they don't understand how
9:55to talk to normal dudes.
9:58Remember when they try to call Tim Walls, Coach Walls, and they put him in
10:02the plaid shirt, and they gave him a gun, and they sent him out, and
10:05they said, look, he wears boots, he's a totally normal guy.
10:09And then totally normal guys watch Tim Walls, and they said, this is not a
10:12totally normal guy. James Tallarico is a lesbian's idea of a white guy that will
10:20appeal to normal white guys and normal men out there.
10:24No, to Christians specifically. Just because he does the, I talk about Jesus thing, he's
10:30going to appeal to anybody who believes in Jesus.
10:32This is the New York Times editorial board version of a white Christian guy from
10:38Texas who other people who go to Christian churches are going to find common ground
10:45with. It's absurd. Again, they just have no idea.
10:49It's like a different species to them.
10:51It's like an alien. They're trying to translate a language that they don't really understand
10:57and find someone who they think can speak to people that they recognize they have
11:02lost. And so I just don't think there's going to be any ability here whatsoever
11:09to corral voters. Now, on the Paxton front and the Cornyn front, I think this
11:20is a tactical decision from Trump.
11:22That he wants to allocate resources so that we can make a real run in
11:28Michigan. He knows that Georgia is going to be pick up a bull.
11:33He knows that Maine and North Carolina are going to be super difficult battlegrounds.
11:37And you got Ohio and Iowa and Texas and Montana and all these other different
11:43states. And he's trying to figure out how we can spend the least amount of
11:47money necessary in Texas to win this race.
11:50And I think Trump has been convinced that that is by him endorsing John Cornyn.
11:57Now, Cornyn beat Paxton by a small margin of votes in the primary.
12:04And I believe what happened was the Cornyn people went back to Trump and they
12:08said, Ken Paxton wasn't able to beat us head to head in the Republican primary.
12:13You have to get over 50 % support in order to be the official nominee.
12:18So we have the runoff in late May.
12:20And they are saying he's not going to be able to beat us in May
12:25either, whether you believe that or not.
12:27And then there's going to be $100 million spent or more in this additional primary,
12:34potentially. And then you're going to have to spend hundreds of millions of dollars more
12:38if Paxton is the nominee in order to beat Tallarico.
12:42Now, here's what I would say.
12:44I think whoever the Republican nominee is is going to beat Tallarico.
12:48I think they're going to raise a lot of money for him just like they
12:51did for Beto. But I think this guy is actually a far less appealing version
12:56of Beto. I think he's crazier.
12:58I think he's got further left -wing opinions.
13:01Just saying, Beto's a little more handsome.
13:04Beto's a better speaker. Beto's a better -looking guy.
13:07Better -looking guy, you know?
13:09Beto in those Wrangler jeans, a little more exciting to the ladies and some of
13:13the guys than Tallarico is.
13:16So, you know, we can just call it out.
13:17We'll say it like it is.
13:19But I think that this guy is toast in the election.
13:24I think there's no chance.
13:26And now you should never say that.
13:28Texans, you need to show up.
13:29You need to vote. You need to make sure that this doesn't end up happening.
13:31But they're not even running a passable version of a Texas centrist in this campaign.
13:40They're running an ardent leftist.
13:43I mean, he is a leftist.
13:44There's no way around that.
13:46Just because you talk about God doesn't mean you aren't a leftist.
13:50In fact, there are a lot.
13:51I can speak from the Catholic Church side of this.
13:53There are a lot of commie Catholics running around, including in the clergy, which is
13:57very disappointing. Well, I think also you could see where Jasmine Crockett had a base.
14:02Black female voters in particular were going to show up for her in a substantial
14:06way. I'm not sure what James Tallarico's base is.
14:10And so, again, I think either Paxton or Cornyn would win.
14:13But I do believe that now that we're in sort of strategic season for analyzing,
14:19there's been a lot of talk about the quality of Senate nominees in different states.
14:25And we've talked about this before.
14:27In Georgia, Republicans have lost three straight Senate races that they should have won.
14:33Just point blank. Three straight Senate races in Georgia were all winnable.
14:38Well, Warnock and Ossoff are not great candidates, and Georgia Republicans have not been able
14:43to get across the finish line because they haven't had good enough nominees.
14:46Meanwhile, Brian Kemp wins by eight points.
14:49Every other office in the state overwhelmingly comfortable wins.
14:54We've got to get better nominees across the board.
14:58And so I think this is the strategic analysis.
15:01We'll open up phone lines.
15:02A lot of Texans will have strong thoughts on this.
15:03We also have invited Paxton and Cornyn both on the program as this is playing
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16:24Welcome back in to Clay and Buck.
16:25Got a bunch of talkbacks we wanted to get to.
16:27We're also going to talk to Ryan Groduski in a little bit about that Texas
16:30election situation. Here we go.
16:33Podcast listener, this is F on the Talkback List team.
16:36Podcast listener, Steve from Dallas.
16:38Let's hear what Steve has to say.
16:40Good morning, fellas. This is Steve from Dallas.
16:42Although right now I'm in the National Airport.
16:44I was expecting to see Clay in here somewhere.
16:47I like all the references to The Dark Knight.
16:50And I don't want to go out on a limb here, but I think Buck's
16:54imitation of Bane might be better than his imitation of Crock.
16:59That's wild, I know, to say that.
17:01But, hey, I'm crazy like that.
17:03Do I impress you, sir?
17:06I'm glad. I'm glad he likes the Bane impersonation.
17:09Is that the best superhero movie ever made?
17:14Ooh. I am a Batman Begins overall the rest of the trilogy fan.
17:22I like the first one the most, actually, as a movie.
17:25My problem with those movies is the female leads are terrible.
17:29Katie Holmes, that other chick who is just not cute.
17:32I'm sorry. She's just not even mid.
17:36She's just not attractive. I don't remember her name.
17:38Maggie Gyllenhaal. Gross. Not good for the role.
17:42But the first movie I think is the best.
17:45You agree or disagree? I mean, Heath Ledger is almost impossible to beat.
17:51He's the greatest villain of all time, I think.
17:54So, you go number two.
17:56That's respectable. I'm not going to slap your whispering angel out of your hand over
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18:59Welcome back in. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
19:03You know, Buck, there's a lot of good news out there, and I don't think
19:07we discussed this on the program yet.
19:09I saw this, and I thought to myself, you know what?
19:13We should dive into this, and I meant to mention it a day or so
19:16ago, but your home state of Florida.
19:20I know there's a lot of frustration out there.
19:22People say, oh, you know, what's the impact?
19:25Nothing ever changes. It doesn't matter who wins races.
19:28This is, it's all going to turn into, I think, a, sometimes people just get
19:37so much negativity running, and I do think this is important and worth breaking down.
19:45Florida voter registration. Did you see this?
19:48This is from a guy named Michael Pruser, who does the data on this.
19:52Let me hit you with some numbers, because I think Governor Ron DeSantis and a
19:56lot of the Republican Floridian establishment has not gotten enough attention, and I do believe
20:03the story of Florida is occurring across many different states simultaneous.
20:10According to the most recent numbers that came out, this is the beginning of March,
20:14so through the end of February, Republicans now have an advantage of nearly 1 .5
20:21million overall voters in the state.
20:25That is 5 .5 million registered Republicans in Florida.
20:30There are now about 4 .4 million registered Democrats.
20:36Now, that's a pretty impressive overall outcome, but what's interesting, Buck, is if you go
20:43back to just, let's see, just 2016, right as Trump was coming into office, right
20:51before DeSantis came into office, there were just 4 .5 million registered Republicans, and there
20:58were 4 .9 million registered Democrats.
21:01So Democrats have lost about 500 ,000, and Republicans have added roughly a million.
21:09Palm Beach County, which used to be a bastion of the Democrat Party, is going
21:16to flip red very soon.
21:18I believe that will leave only three counties, three or four counties total that even
21:24have a Democrat majority. So if you're out there and you're frustrated, and I get
21:30it, and you say, hey, who gets elected doesn't matter, and I know there are
21:34some of you out there in the market because we hear from them all the
21:37time, Florida, I think, is an incredible story about what happens when there are good
21:43policies put in place, when there are smart, committed, uh...
21:47Republican leaders put in place and when they execute and I would argue right now
21:53that Florida is the base of the Republican Party and for those of you out
21:57there who can remember Florida as the ultimate swing state battleground in all of the
22:03nation it's really kind of incredible to see and sometimes we miss progress that is
22:10occurring because it's easier to focus on negative stories and it's easier to be upset
22:15on a day -to -day basis but Florida is one of the greatest success stories
22:19in Republican Party history if you look at what's happened over the last decade and
22:24you as a Floridian now Buck are part of that mass influx of people I
22:29actually think Florida is poised to become even more of a leader in Republican Party
22:35circles going forward it's really an incredible story and I don't think it gets talked
22:40about enough in a positive way no I think it's fantastic it's obviously I live
22:46here and I'm so pleased to see how well everything is is going so the
22:52numbers speak for themselves Fortress Florida is stronger than ever Ron DeSantis who has stepped
22:59away from the national spotlight a bit in the last couple of years but he
23:02he has done a phenomenal job as governor and I think there's still some very
23:08uh worthwhile stuff that he's trying to get through in his last year and it
23:12just shows it shows you that you can have reasonable competent people in charge of
23:20state government it is a thing that can happen and it's a good thing when
23:25it happens it makes people safer it makes businesses more prosperous it makes your day
23:29-to -day life more efficient the streets are cleaner I mean all these things that
23:34you'd like to think all government is doing at some level or rather all necessary
23:38government is functioning in a way to make your life better or at least not
23:41make your life worse and unfortunately in New York City I experienced the other side
23:46of this so I know what it is like on both sides of this coin
23:51I know what it's like to be in a place New York where the people
23:54in charge are in some cases ideologically dedicated to destroying your quality of life and
24:01taking from you and uh blaming you for the problems that some of their policies
24:06are exacerbating um and and I've seen the other side of it where you are
24:10welcomed and if you are law -abiding you have the benefit of law enforcement around
24:16you so therefore you get to lead a safer more orderly and more pleasant existence
24:22and that is what we have in Florida so yeah man it's great and and
24:26I just the people that are still holding out in some of these other places
24:30who are I'm not talking about the Republicans who live in California I get it
24:33you got family there you love your state it's a beautiful state you want to
24:36go I mean the Democrats who are still in these states who don't get it
24:40I don't understand what they don't get at this point well I do it's a
24:45delusion like a manufactured delusion which is a fantastic book that all of you should
24:49get from the New York Times bestseller list last week I highly recommend it I
24:55um it is a spectacular book uh I'm told it sold many copies and uh
25:01I I do believe that one of the the big untold stories right now is
25:08Florida is an example of the census and how the census is going to swing
25:14in a really transformative way for the map the map is not going to change
25:20until 2030 but the legacy of COVID when you look at what's happened with Texas
25:26with Tennessee with Florida there are a lot of other states to point to as
25:30well is Democrats ability to win nationwide elections is going to be severely curtailed starting
25:40in 2030 now 2028 is still going to be a battle that's fought on frankly
25:45a map that has shifted in Republican Party directions uh but all of this is
25:51going to be I think a super uh important story that is not getting enough
25:58attention and buck this doesn't even take into account what I think the Supreme Court
26:02is going to do and again this is not being I'm trying to be positive
26:06here because there's so many things that I think don't get enough attention I was
26:08thinking about the Florida numbers um and the uh the fact that people are voting
26:13with their feet because of the leadership of Ron DeSantis and others but also look
26:18at what the Supreme Court's likely to do when it comes to race -based congressional
26:22districts I don't think they're going to give their ruling in time to impact the
26:272026 midterm cycle because I think they're going to say it's too political but they
26:32I believe are going to do away with race -based congressional districts right now it
26:38is considered constitutional to say hey we're going to have a majority black district and
26:44we'll draw that district so that it encompasses all these different uh interstates and neighborhoods
26:49and you look at some of the most gerrymandered communities out there many of them
26:55are race -based drawn districts uh for black voters the country has actually become so
27:01much more diverse with hispanic and asian and uh and and other people of different
27:05backgrounds that this black -white dynamic and black -based districts I think are not going
27:10to be allowed and you say okay clay what's your what's the impact of that
27:13going to be by 20 дор and me and I think asian, those are the
27:15big obrigado people to see some of the previous permitir that the schneller and потом
27:15could do best at getting out the spectacular Thank you.
27:1528, that could swing 20 seats towards Republicans because those districts being not able to
27:25be gerrymandered that way. So if you think about that ruling, which I think is
27:30going to come down this summer, and then you think about what's going to happen
27:33with the 2030 census and using Florida as an example of how population has shifted,
27:39the map for 2030 and beyond is going to be massively in favor of red
27:46states. And here's something else.
27:48I think the acceleration of voters from blue states is going to move even faster
27:54because if you look at the budgets of New York and California, for example, they
27:59spend way more than a state like Florida or Texas, big states, would spend, and
28:05they get far weaker results.
28:07And I think that is all going to, again, this is big picture talking next
28:12five, six years. All of that is going to, that transformation is going to occur
28:17even more rapidly. So I understand a lot of people out there saying, and I
28:21get it because I'm impatient.
28:22I want things to happen as quickly as they possibly can.
28:25I don't think that we're talking enough about how much difference that's going to make
28:30in the years ahead. Now, should we still pass the SAVE Act and ensure that
28:35federal elections are reliable and that we do something crazy like require somebody to show
28:42up with a photo ID in order to vote?
28:45Yes. That is non -negotiable to me.
28:49It should happen. And I understand how that can be frustrating when things like that
28:52aren't happening. But I do think the larger trend lines here are not being talked
28:58about enough, and they are incredibly favorable.
29:01And this is what good governance does.
29:03People do notice, and they vote with their feet.
29:07Indeed. That is excellent. Clay's good at the whole stump speech thing, everybody.
29:12You think he's getting any ideas?
29:14Could be kind of a wide open field in 2028.
29:17Laura, we should talk. I'd be a great chief of staff.
29:19I'm just saying. I'm just throwing it out there.
29:21Mr. Clay Travis, you have the political gift of gab, sir.
29:26I feel like I'm ready to move to Tennessee, and I live in Florida.
29:28It's already great here. I just think that, again, results really do matter, and sometimes
29:35it's frustrating when you don't see those results in real time.
29:39Look at Florida. It really is a great story.
29:42You've never lived in a deeply dysfunctional – well, I shouldn't say that.
29:48You lived in D .C., but – Wait.
29:51Oh, we got breaking news.
29:52Wow. Wow. Now up on the screen.
29:54Oh, boy. I was asking Buck if we should bring this up because there was
29:59a bunch of noise. I've got the vapors.
30:02I've got the vapors. Buck's good friend.
30:04Christy Noem has been fired, everybody.
30:06Christy Noem has been fired, they're telling me.
30:08Oh, Lord. So this is the first cabinet secretary to be removed from office.
30:15We were talking off -air about the fact that the odds in the prediction markets
30:19had gone to 90 % that she was out.
30:21Wall Street Journal has really kind of come after her with a bunch of stories
30:25about spending. And so Christy Noem – Turns out someone who's corrupt, cheats on her
30:31husband, and shoots dogs for fun isn't the best person to put in charge of
30:34maybe your most important federal agency.
30:37I'm glad the administration is moving in the right direction here.
30:40So now who is going to be the DHS secretary?
30:43That's going to be the next question.
30:44So Christy Noem out. That's breaking news.
30:47Just came up on Fox News as an alert.
30:49There's a possibility, I guess, that Tom Homan could slide into that.
30:54I should say alleged, by the way, with all of that.
30:56Alleged. These are all allegations, of course.
30:59Yes. Christy Noem is going to step down and Tom Homan is taking over?
31:03Maybe. I don't know. I'm not sure who that next person is going to be.
31:08Breaking news. We'll come back and talk about who might be – oh, wow.
31:13She's being replaced by Mark Wayne Mullen, Oklahoma senator.
31:17There we go. Just on the show this week, friend of the show, Mark Wayne
31:23Mullen. That's according to breaking news from Fox News.
31:27Senator from Oklahoma will now take over as the head of DHS.
31:32Apparently, the hearing was disastrous from Republican and Democrat sides of things.
31:36We didn't really cover the hearing, but Noem had a hearing on Capitol Hill.
31:39She was asked about a special government employee who travels with her who is not
31:43her husband, and that did not go over well.
31:46She was asked a number of things that did not go over well, including a
31:49$200 million ad campaign starring her.
31:52That's taxpayer dollars, everybody. $200 million.
31:57So, President Trump, this is big news.
32:00So, look, we're going to go to break.
32:02We'll come back and we'll talk about it.
32:03This is the first cabinet secretary in 2 .0.
32:06There's been a lot of stability so far.
32:08This is the first cabinet secretary out.
32:11Michael Walls has shifted, right?
32:13They moved him to ambassador to the U .N., if I'm not mistaken, from inside
32:18of the government. So, that's the biggest move prior to now.
32:22But, again, breaking news. Kristi Noem out and Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma up
32:28now to be the new head of DHS.
32:30We'll talk about that when we come back.
32:32Again, breaking news coming down right now.
32:34I just love to see this Trump administration making smart decisions and doing the best
32:38thing for the American people and for the mission.
32:41That's where I come down on this.
32:43Buck and Christy Noem, not exactly best chums for those of you who have been
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34:38Welcome back into Clay and Buck, the big breaking news, and it is everywhere now.
34:42It is on Fox News.
34:43It is on the Daily Mail.
34:43It is everywhere. Trump preparing to fire Kristi Noem.
34:48Well, sorry. Trump has fired Kristi Noem, rather.
34:51That's on Fox News. But the headline in Daily Mail is, quote, after she lied
34:57under oath over a $220 million vanity campaign.
35:02Vanity may have been the undoing here, my friends.
35:06Too many appearances holding automatic weapons improperly for no apparent reason and showing up everywhere
35:13and the whole thing. A $200 million ad campaign for starring a government employee is
35:21a lot of money, everybody, for DHS.
35:24You can win statewide a lot of times on $10 million campaigns or less.
35:31So spending $200 million on this seems to have been the final straw.
35:36And, again, reports from Fox News is the only place that has it so far.
35:44Mark Wayne Mullen, Republican senator from Oklahoma, is now the head of the DHS.
35:50I'd also point out she was asked in this hearing, asked Noem if she had,
35:54quote, sexual relations with Corey.
35:56This was in a congressional hearing, just to be clear.
35:58Asked if she had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski.
36:00Noem replied, quote, I am shocked we're going down and peddling tabloid garbage in this
36:06committee, end quote. You could also say no, but you're under oath.
36:14We'll read for you when we come back.
36:17President Trump has posted on Truth Social that Mark Wayne Mullen is in.
36:23We'll read exactly what he said.
36:24It's a little bit long.
36:25But when we come back, again, first cabinet secretary out, took a little bit over
36:31a year. Mark Wayne Mullen in.
36:33He'll have to get confirmed.
36:35But he is coming from the Senate.
36:38A lot of times that is very easy, relatively speaking.
36:41So I would expect that confirmation will be relatively smooth.
36:44But we'll break this down and more when we come back.
36:48Again, major breaking news. Kristi Noem out at DHS.
36:51Mark Wayne Mullen in. We'll discuss next.
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