Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H3 - Historic NASA Launch
4/4/202637 mincomplete
0:00This is an iHeart Podcast.
0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome in. Hour number three, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show.
0:09We are rolling through the program.
0:10We're going to have from NASA, Jared Isaacman on at the bottom of the program
0:15as the launch date for Artemis is set to happen tomorrow, assuming the weather remains
0:22strong and in good stead there.
0:25We are rolling through the program.
0:28I want to mention you stock market up nearly a thousand points as the overall
0:32temperature, I think it's fair to say, in Iran is being dialed back.
0:38We've got a lot of different topics to get into with our guests now.
0:42Chip Roy running for attorney general of Texas.
0:45And we'll get into some major domestic politics related issues.
0:49But Congressman, right off the top, let's just kind of obviously the Iran story is
0:55huge. You talk with the White House quite a lot.
0:59You know the oil and gas industry well as you represent the state of Texas.
1:04If the president were to ask your advice as it pertains to where we are
1:09about a month into the strikes on Iran, you would tell him what as it
1:14pertains to the best possible outcome at this point?
1:17Well, Clay, great to be on.
1:19I mean, first of all, I think what the president's doing is important for resetting
1:23the entire field over there.
1:25And he's putting a lot of pressure on our enemies, to be blunt.
1:29Russia, China, who are feeling the strain of this, and even Europe, who have not
1:34been stepping up there, uphold their end of the bargain, as he noted today.
1:37You guys should go over here and invest in order to open up the straits.
1:41Now, the good news is we've seen a lot of the oil moving through the
1:43straits. I think my advice, which I would offer very carefully, because he's the commander
1:48-in -chief. He's in charge of our national security foreign policy.
1:52But my advice is, look, stay the course on making sure we take out Iran's
1:57offensive capabilities, both conventional and nuclear.
2:00Stay the course on doing that.
2:02That was the long -term threat.
2:03That's why they've had the destabilization over the last five decades.
2:07But not to get too invested in this such that we're in a quagmire where
2:11we've got boots on the ground and a massive expenditure.
2:14Like, the American people don't really want to go down that road.
2:16So let's knock out their capabilities.
2:19Let's keep up the diplomatic pressure.
2:20Let's put pressure on the rest of the world to step up and stop Iran
2:24from continuing to have the threats that they have.
2:27And then we can get back in the business of worrying about the election in
2:30the fall. I'm going to say credit to the president.
2:32You know, politically, people have said, don't do this, right?
2:34And he saw the moment to go try to knock the knees out from under
2:37Iran, both for our benefit, obviously, to support our ally Israel, but importantly, to reset
2:43the global geopolitical landscape. And he's done that.
2:46I just – my caution is do not get, you know, mired in a quagmire
2:50with respect to troops on the ground over there for any extended period of time.
2:55Congressman, appreciate you being with us.
2:56It's Buck. Can we talk about this situation of the DHS and TSA and the
3:00funding and where this all stands?
3:02Now, it looks like – and we think that it might have had some of
3:05its, at least, genesis on this show with an idea from a caller.
3:09But it looks like the ICE backfill of TSA agents has at least alleviated some
3:15of the strain at the airports.
3:16And now where does all of this stand with Congress?
3:21The whole thing is just such a disgrace that people's, you know, vacations, work trips,
3:27all this stuff were ruined so that Chuck Schumer could nag us all about ICE
3:32enforcement. What is the status of the funding and what happens next?
3:38Well, I think as everybody saw last week, I just want to give a big
3:41shout -out to Speaker Mike Johnson for doing, I think, the right thing of having
3:44the House of Representatives send a shot back to the Senate, making very clear we
3:47believe we should fund all of the Department of Homeland Security, TSA, FEMA, Coast Guard,
3:52but importantly ICE and Border Patrol.
3:54And we weren't going to allow the Democrats to isolate ICE and Border Patrol.
3:59We need to stay behind all of them.
4:01I know that we're working through ways to break the back of the Democrats who
4:04are refusing to fund these important security agencies when we're engaged in conflict with Iran
4:10and we had terrorist attacks here on our own soil and where we've got, you
4:16know, rattling by Hezbollah and others.
4:18In the meantime, we have a weakened state without full funding for Coast Guard ICE
4:22Border Patrol. So God bless the president for moving money around for TSA.
4:26God bless the president and Congress for having money in the big, beautiful bill that's
4:30giving us flexibility to deal with the Democrats who do not seem to care that
4:34they're in danger in our country for their political purposes.
4:37I think where we stand is I think the Senate needs to come back in.
4:40I do not think they should be gone for this two -week recess and they
4:44need to come back in, work to get a funding bill done like we passed
4:47out of the House. If we have to do it through reconciliation, fine.
4:50But what we shouldn't do, I think, is isolate ICE and Border Patrol to be
4:53used as a pinata and a punching bag by the Democrats.
4:57That's what they want. Let's do what we want.
4:59Let's fully fund the security of the United States, which is what the American people
5:02want us to do. What did you think when the Senate left on a two
5:06-week vacation and you guys were still working on the House side?
5:10Yeah, pretty frustrating for them to dump that bill on us late Thursday night, that
5:14two -in -the -morning vote, my voice vote, by the way, without full disclosure to
5:18a lot of my friends who are in the Senate.
5:20And then all of a sudden we're looking at this bill going, look, your message
5:24heading out of town is...
5:25to fund DHS minus ICE and Border Patrol, and we looked at that and said,
5:30look, yes, we want to support TSA.
5:32Yes, we want to support the Coast Guard, but we're not going to leave ICE
5:35and Border Patrol stranded. Yes, we can go pull some money out of the big,
5:39beautiful bill to limp through it, but it's not easy to do, and the dollars
5:43will run out. We have a lot of our civilian folks, the support staff, people
5:47that were writing into us, calling us, saying, hey, guys, we're left dangling here.
5:51We don't think that's the right way to do business, so my feeling was, and
5:54the Speaker, God bless him, said, nope, the House is going to stand strong.
5:57We're going to fund it all, send that back over to the Senate, and that's
6:01where we stand. Now, again, we should go back to Washington.
6:04As you guys know, I'm on the campaign trail for Attorney General.
6:06It is in my personal interest to be in the state of Texas, both so
6:10I can see my family, but so I can be campaigning, but my job as
6:14a congressman, we need to deliver, so I'll do whatever we need to do.
6:18I'll fly back up there in two hours if I need to, if the Speaker
6:21calls us back, but we ought to get together.
6:23Now, I've been having conversations with him, with the Director of the Office of Management
6:27and Budget, the White House, with my friends in the Senate, Jody Arrington, a fellow
6:30Texan who's the Chairman of the Budget Committee with whom I worked to get the
6:33big, beautiful bill done last year.
6:35We're talking about options. We want to fund the security needs of the United States
6:40fully and not let the Democrats undermine it, and that's our goal, and that's what
6:44we intend to try to do.
6:46Speaking of Chip Roy of Texas, Congressman, something that we've been talking about a lot
6:50on the show, because it's a big issue for the whole country, and I think
6:54that President Trump, with his federal initiatives on helping high -crime cities, has shown what
7:02is possible. You have a crime bill that you are interested in bringing forth and
7:09making the law of the land.
7:11What would it do, and what do you think is the mood of the American
7:15people right now for law enforcement and enforcing laws through our courts in general when
7:22it comes to career criminals, particularly violent criminals?
7:25Well, I think people have seen the dangerous reality of putting people on the streets
7:31who shouldn't be there, and you see these pendulum shifts.
7:35Those of us were old enough to remember the 80s and early 90s.
7:38We then cracked down on crime.
7:39It was bipartisan, and we had a relatively safe country, and then now we've seen
7:42this pendulum back. They've been letting criminals out on the streets.
7:45You know, all of these groups, Arabella, the Soros -funded groups, the Wren Collective, all
7:50of these entities that have put bad DAs and bad judges in place, they're letting
7:54criminals out. Well, when we fixed it 30 years ago, we had a three -strikes
7:58-and -year -out provision, right?
7:59We had harsher penalties and sentencing guidelines.
8:03So what I wanted to do, and you know, I was a former federal prosecutor.
8:07I've watched those get watered down over the last two decades, but there were some
8:11criticisms that I took into account.
8:13For example, people said in the three -strikes -and -year -out, you shouldn't have one
8:17of your strikes be a random misdemeanor drug possession or something when you were a
8:21juvenile. And I said to myself, okay, fine, so let's prioritize the point.
8:27So in the bill that I drafted, I tried to put more emphasis behind a
8:31three -strikes -and -you're -out regime again to give it more power by basically putting
8:37a tiered system in place so there's points.
8:40So if you have a, you know, a dangerous felony that you're committing and you
8:44got three strikes of those, you're out.
8:45That's permanent. But if you're, if it's a low -level misdemeanor, that would be a
8:49quarter point or a half point.
8:51Frankly, I mean, I think it's giving in a way that should get a significant
8:56amount of support, but the goal here is to reestablish a framework by which there's
9:01a legislative requirement that you put these guys in jail and don't let them out
9:06and stand in the way of judges or DAs who are not prosecuting or, or
9:11giving them sentences that, that, that would keep them off the streets.
9:14So I try to take away the excuses, if that makes sense, by restructuring the
9:18regime to make sure criminals stay in jail.
9:20We're talking to Congressman Chip Roy.
9:23He is running for attorney general of Texas.
9:25If you were attorney general, one of your top focuses, I would imagine in Texas
9:30would be prosecuting violent criminals and ensuring that they end up behind bars.
9:35You're in Washington DC right now, last year, 125 year low, according to data for
9:42murders, uh, in Washington DC so far this year compared to last year, murders are
9:49down 65 % according to the official Metro DC data that I am looking at
9:56right now, uh, sex abuse charges down 67%.
10:00Is it what we've seen in DC and what we've seen in Memphis strong evidence
10:06that as you're laying out with your potential bills, we don't have to deal with
10:11violent crime. We can actually drive it down to levels that we've never seen before
10:16and make all of us safer.
10:19Absolutely. And it's the first order of, of government, right?
10:22And, and, you know, look, people ask me, why are you running for attorney general?
10:25It's because I believe that the state of Texas is under attack and I won't
10:29go through the entire list of things, but border obviously in the, in the issue
10:32that we've been dealing with that there, thank God we've got president Trump, but the
10:35open border was destructive to Texas.
10:37It was also putting criminals on our streets, putting gang members on our streets, endangering
10:41our people. In addition to the March of Islam across Texas and other issues that
10:45we're dealing with the, the issue of crime on our streets is the big one.
10:49And, you know, Texas is known for law and order injustice, but if you look
10:52at what we've been dealing with in Houston, in Dallas, in Austin, in San Antonio,
10:56with these DAs and these judges that are leaving the criminals on the streets, you
11:00see what happens. And what the president did, he demonstrated that a strong law and
11:04order and presence of our law enforcement makes an enormous difference.
11:09And that's not rocket science.
11:11It's just common sense, but it takes courage and leadership to stand against, you know,
11:16the woke leftists, the Marxists, who are totally fine with us being in danger because
11:20they say that somehow it is, you know, inappropriate or racist to say that we
11:25need to have law enforcement on the streets.
11:26But the funny thing is, when you talk to Hispanic Texans, black Texans, people of
11:31all walks of life, they all want to have it on the streets.
11:34So that's the first order of business of government.
11:36As Attorney General, I'll be working hard to do that, to secure the border, to
11:40put criminals behind bars, to work with local law enforcement to do it, to stop
11:43these judges, to stop these activist DAs, who, by the way, are well -funded.
11:47This is one last important point.
11:48Whether you're talking about crime, whether you're talking about these groups, Soros, whether you're talking
11:53about the Islamist movement across the state of Texas and the country, you've got to
11:57go after the NGOs and the nonprofits.
11:59The Attorney General has massive power to open up their books, all of them, look
12:03at what they're doing, see where they're violating the law, and then pull their charter
12:07and shut them down. We've got to go after these groups who are organized against
12:10us and undermining our society and endangering us.
12:14Congressman Roy, I appreciate you being with us, sir.
12:16Thanks, guys. Y 'all take care.
12:19Happy Easter. Clay, you may not know this, but sometimes I'm quite fashionable.
12:25Yesterday... I definitely did not know that, but yes, continue.
12:29Yes. Well, I will have you know that yesterday, when I met up with some
12:33of our team at the event, I said, you guys see these?
12:37You guys see this? They said, oh, you clean up nicely.
12:38You see this slick look?
12:40See these pants I'm wearing?
12:41These are cozy earth everywhere pants, my friend.
12:46That's right. I was rocking my cozy earth last night.
12:49Cozy earth pants. They feel fantastic, and they look so good that I dressed them
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12:55So I was quite fashionable, sir, at the event, thanks to cozy earth.
13:00But not only that, when I get home tonight, I'm going to be sleeping on
13:04cozy earth sheets. Cozy earth has this amazing blanket, the bubble blanket, which my wife,
13:10unfortunately, hogs. I'm not going to lie.
13:12I sound like a wimp right now, but she hogs the bubble blanket when we're
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13:17But the cozy earth products, they're incredible.
13:20And I understand why she wants that bubble blanket for herself, because it's quite soft
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13:28Everything they have on the clothing side is super comfortable.
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13:39Perhaps a cozy earth robe or PJs can be just the thing.
13:42You know, like our friend Jesse Kelly clay, he's a robe guy.
13:46I don't know if you know that he loves to he loves to rock a
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14:26on Clay and Buck. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
14:30Mic drops that never sounded so good.
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14:39Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
14:41So Clay, did you clarify this for some yesterday?
14:44Some of the listeners who were one of the listeners said that he had a
14:47hard time telling the difference between us.
14:49Have you heard this? Have you heard this response?
14:51Yes. Yesterday, we had a brand new listener who said, I have a difficulty telling
14:56you and Buck apart. And I thought, you know, I'd make it a little bit
15:00easier for him. And this is what it sounded like.
15:02Cut A. Clay. I just started listening to your show and is wondering if there's
15:08some way I have difficulty distinguishing who's talking, whether it's Clay or Buck.
15:14So is there some way you can help me to let me know who's talking
15:19when they're talking so I can understand each individual's point of view?
15:25Thank you very much. And now you weighed in.
15:27Let me guess. You said whenever someone's right, it's Clay.
15:30And when they're wrong and you're mad at them, it's Buck.
15:32Let's hear this. Play B.
15:33I'm the one who makes all the good arguments.
15:35Buck is the one who makes all the bad arguments.
15:37There we go. If you're listening and you think to yourself, oh, that's a really
15:40good take. That's me. If you're listening and you're saying, I have no idea what
15:44that guy's talking about, that's Buck.
15:46I hope that helps out.
15:47This is a reminder. Not only do I know what Clay's response is going to
15:50be in advance of hearing the response team.
15:52We showed up wearing like the same pink Easter outfit on a fox hit this
15:58past weekend. And I think that for people at home, they might have thought, oh,
16:03that's so nice. These two guys are getting in the Easter spirit together and they
16:07planned it. No, we did not plan it.
16:10I was going to go on wearing pink for Easter and make jokes about how
16:14Clay is a heathen because he was not going to be early celebrating Easter.
16:19And it turned out he actually beat me to the punch on that one so
16:22this is what happens when you do this much radio together but did we hear
16:24from pam from anchorage too yes no we haven't we've got a bunch of these
16:27keep going okay pam from anchorage wants to help out with mel from montclair new
16:32jersey play c that was funny clay you're quick on your feet trying to differentiate
16:36for the gentleman between you and buck although your answer was splendid of course but
16:42you might want to check it out i would submit to you that whenever it's
16:47um there's some intermingling of um some really spicy or risque language that's clay the
16:56more uh straight laced and mild -mannered that would be the buckster fair fair fair
17:04point the moment that the talk about boobs starts to get close enough that some
17:09of you might uh have a little bit of redness in your cheeks that's a
17:13clay travis monologue and if someone's saying hold on slow down what's going on that
17:19tends to be me so uh so by content that is one way that you
17:24could tell if someone is pushing the limits oh that's the clayster if someone is
17:29trying to pump the brakes that's the buckster that is accurate and it leads me
17:34into a potential story that you may have to mention for all of you by
17:38the end of the show that involves boobs that i gotta be honest with you
17:43i did not see coming at all um it's a headline on daily mail and
17:47the new york post uh just a little bit of a tease i think we
17:50got i think we got to talk about it i think that's quite a tease
17:53that is quite a tease but when we come back we are going to be
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18:56welcome back in clay travis buck sexton show we are rolling through the tuesday edition
19:02of the program tomorrow major launch coming as long as the weather holds up from
19:07nasa and we bring in now the director of nasa the head of the space
19:11agency jared isaacman and this is a super excited work buck and i are very
19:16excited to talk with you so thanks for making the time for us i know
19:19it's a very uh uh serious time for you guys but i wanted to start
19:23with this question uh before we get into the space launch there is talk that
19:27we are going to be putting a base on the moon um moon base i
19:34guess would be one way to to put that what would that look like and
19:38what does that goal in terms of time stretch out to because that sounds pretty
19:43amazing well you first of all it's great to be on the show great to
19:47talk about the exciting mission that's uh scheduled to launch tomorrow uh and you're absolutely
19:52right right we uh president trump and his national space policy said pick up where
19:57apollo 17 left off send astronauts to the moon do it frequently but don't just
20:02go to put the flag there and leave the footsteps behind build an enduring presence
20:07build a moon base realize the scientific and economic value do the in -situ resource
20:13manufacturing the experimentation the testing that's going to be necessary so someday you can take
20:19the next giant leap to mars so a base on space how long until the
20:26moon i'm sorry oh yeah on the moon but that would be in space clay
20:31i was gonna say a base in space how long till we complete this race
20:35i was trying to have a little rhyme fun here but you jumped in that's
20:37fair enough mr administrator can you tell us what would this be able to do
20:42and are we setting up the basic infrastructure here for a whole new generation or
20:49new generations of space travel leveraging space for things here on earth including low earth
20:56orbit uh uh things like the data centers that will be able to be put
21:02there i mean what what is the future of this look like i know this
21:05amazing launch is coming up but what's going to be happening after yeah absolutely well
21:09let me tell you about it so uh let's talk about the astronaut side of
21:12things so tomorrow artemis 2 is going to launch we're going to send four astronauts
21:17farther into space than we've ever sent humans before they're going to go faster than
21:22humans have ever ever traveled before so 250 000 miles away from earth going 25
21:27000 miles an hour on a 10 -day journey to test out the spaceship before
21:32they'll splash down off the west coast that's artemis 2 that journey begins tomorrow next
21:37up artemis 3 2027 we're going to launch the same rocket this time the astronauts
21:43are going to rendezvous and dock with the lunar lander in earth orbit testing out
21:48the integrated systems. This is just how we did it during the Apollo era, during
21:52Apollo 9. And then we're going to use that to gain confidence to land those
21:56astronauts on the moon in 2028 on Artemis 4.
22:00Now, in parallel, we're building the base.
22:02Again, we're not just going there to pick up the rocks this time.
22:05We're going to stay. So starting in the beginning of 2027, people are going to
22:10be able to witness on a near monthly cadence robotic landings on the moon.
22:15We're going to have rovers driving around.
22:17We're going to be testing out uncrewed mobility, crude mobility, power generation, navigation.
22:24We're going to do surface improvements.
22:26We are going to learn as much as we can in preparation for when the
22:29astronauts arrive. And I'll tell you, we're going to bring everybody along with us.
22:33We're going to put observation satellites up, communication satellites.
22:36Heck, there's going to be a NASA moon -based website where people are going to
22:40log in and watch the moon base being constructed almost in real time.
22:43This is all incredible. For people out there, this is kind of extraordinary.
22:50In 1903, I believe I'm right, Orville and Wilbur Wright began to fly.
22:56In 1969, we put men on the moon.
23:00So 66 years from the creation of the first aircraft, the first time of flight,
23:06to on the moon. And then we kind of just stopped.
23:10And obviously, Elon Musk, who I know you know very well, has been important in
23:15propelling the space advancement. How do we avoid stagnating again?
23:22I love these aspirational goals that you're laying out.
23:26But I think if we went back in time to 1969, Americans would actually be
23:30stunned that our space progress has been quite limited since then.
23:36Look, I think this is extremely fair, right?
23:39I mean, for 35 years, every president has called for a return to the moon.
23:43It sounds good. But what about putting it in practice?
23:46President Trump, during his first term, created the Artemis program.
23:50President Trump, on my first day on the job, the day I was sworn in,
23:53gave me a national space policy in an executive order that said, get back to
23:57the moon and do it to stay this time, build the moon base, and invest
24:02in the next giant leap capabilities.
24:03We're going to launch a nuclear -powered spaceship in 2028 called Freedom, SR -1 Freedom.
24:09That's going to be nuclear power and propulsion, and it's going to deliver a scientific
24:12payload to Mars, because that's the kind of capabilities you're going to need someday for
24:16Mars. So you're absolutely right.
24:18We took a break from deep space exploration for a while.
24:21We didn't have a competitor.
24:22We won the first race, but we have a competitor now.
24:25The new race is on.
24:26It's to get back to the moon.
24:27It's to do it to stay.
24:29It's to learn so you can undertake, you know, big, bold endeavors like going to
24:33Mars someday. That's what the president has put in motion, and we've already enacted plans.
24:39We're not just doing talk about this.
24:40We had a big event last week where we shared with industry and all our
24:44international partners how we're going to do it.
24:46We dropped RFIs, RFPs, had breakout sessions the next day, because now we're in execution.
24:51Can you speak to some of the commercial and national security applications of space exploration
24:58as it's lined up? I mean, you just laid out for us what the timeline
25:01is, but I think, for example, one of the amazing things that SpaceX has done
25:06is by creating Internet essentially beamed down from satellites, there's a whole commercial application now
25:15for this, and SpaceX is obviously putting satellites into space for private entities, so there's
25:21commercialization. So I know there's more commercial options that this will lay the pathway for.
25:27Can you speak to that, and also why, from a national security perspective, space, NASA,
25:33what's going on right now with this program is so important?
25:37Yeah, absolutely. So I'll tell you what SpaceX did, which is so important, is they
25:42figured out how to reuse the rocket again, and not months later, but to do
25:46it in weeks. Why does this matter?
25:47I mean, think about it.
25:48If you were traveling with your family to Disney World, but you had to throw
25:51away the 737, how much would it cost to get to Disney World, right?
25:54That's not how we want to do it anymore.
25:56SpaceX pioneered rapid reusability of the first stage of the booster, and what that did
26:01is it brought the cost to put mass in orbit down materially.
26:06Now, what does that serve?
26:07That serves a lot of different applications.
26:09You can now have high -speed internet and low -Earth orbit, but it has national
26:13security applications as well. I mean, the satellites that we use in conflict for observation,
26:19you know, for communication, for command and control, those are all put up now far
26:24more affordably than ever before, thanks to reusability.
26:28But it's also great for science and discovery, right?
26:30I mean, you know, exploring the world beyond ours is the greatest adventure in human
26:34history. We can launch more rovers now to Mars, more probes, more telescopes to look
26:38back into the beginning of our universe, thanks to this reusable technology.
26:43And it's not just SpaceX anymore.
26:44Blue Origin has this capability.
26:46Rocket Lab is doing it.
26:47I mean, what they did was a game -changer, and they're about to change it
26:51all over again now with Starship, where both the first half of the rocket and
26:55the upper half are going to be reusable.
26:56That's going to be a light switch moment for humanity.
26:59We're talking to Jared Isaacman, head of NASA, in advance of the launch tomorrow.
27:05My 18 -year -old is a big space kid.
27:08Like, he's just fascinated by it all.
27:10I told him we were going to have you on the program today, and he
27:13told me, will you ask him?
27:16How long will it be, in his opinion, until we can put a man or
27:21woman on the surface of Mars?
27:23What does that time frame look like to you?
27:25I understand the focus right now is moon -based, but aspirationally, having so -called moonshots
27:31matters. It really kind of gets the attention of my 18 -year -old.
27:34I bet there's a lot of kids out there, grandkids out there that are going
27:38to be listening to this segment that would love to know an answer to that,
27:41to think aspirationally about our future in the stars.
27:46Sure. I mean, I think the answer is it's probably somewhere in that 10 -
27:50to 20 -year timeline. But I'll tell you, this is why it's so imperative to
27:54return to the moon and build the moon base.
27:56So where we are targeting to build the base that President Trump called for in
28:00his space policy is the South Pole.
28:02And in the permanently shaded regions of the South Pole of the moon, you have
28:06water ice. So when we land there, when we build the base, we are going
28:10to work with that ice and use it to make propellant.
28:13And that's going to be key, because I'll tell you, when you see American astronauts
28:16step foot off the Artemis 4 lander and are on the moon, know at that
28:21point in time we have the capability to send astronauts to Mars.
28:25The hard part is how do you bring them home?
28:28And when they're there, they're going to have to make their own propellant to make
28:31that return voyage, and we will master those skills on the South Pole of the
28:35moon, and then we'll be ready to undertake that grand journey.
28:39One last question. Tomorrow this is going to be happening in theory at what time?
28:43For people out there that want to monitor this incredible endeavor, what should they know?
28:48What are the details? So at 6 .24 p .m.
28:53at Kennedy Space Center, that's when our launch window opens, and that is the earliest
28:57point that Artemis 2 could ignite.
29:00And you've got 8 .8 million pounds of thrust sending those astronauts out into space,
29:0525 ,000 miles an hour, farther into space than any human's ever gone before.
29:09Wow. It's exciting. Well, we know how busy you are.
29:12This has been awesome. We appreciate you making the time, and we look forward to
29:16watching the success tomorrow. Thank you very much.
29:19Thanks for your interest in NASA.
29:20Thank you. That's Jared Isaacman, the head of NASA.
29:24That's really cool. Again, I like your question, Buck, because it kind of goes to
29:30how are these things that we learn going to be applied to other facets of
29:35life? And I think it's a really cool thing about a moon base as an
29:38aspirational goal to teach us how to one day put life onto Mars and make
29:45us a multi -planetary species, which is, I think, pretty incredible.
29:49But I want to tell you, in the meantime, maybe you just want to worry
29:53about life here on good old Earth, and maybe you're concerned about some of the
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31:28And we've got a bunch of talkbacks from all of you.
31:31Let's hit it. First up, D, podcast listener, Tom, on the West Palm Airport.
31:35Hit it. Good afternoon, guys.
31:37With the news that the Palm Beach Airport in Florida is now going to be
31:42named Trump Airport. Like Linda in Arizona, I'd like to be the first one to
31:47call and recommend that the airport code be changed from PBI to TDS.
31:54I think with Trump's humor, I think he would go for it.
31:58That's very funny. It's a dad joke.
32:01It was a solid dad joke.
32:02Yeah. Yeah. I don't hate it.
32:05Joe from Huntington Beach, California.
32:08E. Hey, this is Joe from Huntington Beach.
32:11Clay, if your golf swing is awful, you're not a 20 handicap.
32:1520 handicap means you basically shoot around a 92.
32:1992 is not bad. That's almost about one over par.
32:23That's bogey golf. That's actually pretty good for just a casual weekend golfer.
32:27Just saying. I am about a 92 or a 95.
32:31I mean, I'm not saying that I'm playing from the tips.
32:34I'm not playing from the pro -level tees.
32:37But, you know, playing for a, you know, normal middle -range tees, depending on how
32:42many there are. I. I.
32:43Thank you. play roughly bogey golf uh i'm not truly atrocious my swing is not
32:48good is that the women's tees or how many tees are there that's the red
32:52tees are the women's tees i would be a i could probably par most courses
32:57if i got humbly if i got to play from the women tees uh because
33:00they're just so much shorter i can drive a lot of greens uh even my
33:04misses wouldn't be that bad no this would be like there's the tips right which
33:08is like the pro level and that is way back and there's all added different
33:13uh challenges i'm not saying i'm playing from there most golfers shouldn't play from there
33:17unless you're elite but for the middle tier you know i would i would shoot
33:21uh if again if i'm out a little bit around the 92 to 98 i
33:26would say would be about what i would shoot so that's you know basically a
33:3020 plus handicap that's what i put down when i play in the charity golf
33:34events for all the golf people out there so you got that going for you
33:37which is nice uh charity from milwaukee this is f i just want to give
33:43you guys a different perspective on why women aren't having kids and getting married young
33:48the dating market sucks as a single woman it is so hard to find men
33:55i am active in my church i am active socially i have friends who don't
34:02have other single male friends to set me up with the dating market just is
34:07really bad okay well charity there's probably some men out there that might be interested
34:12in charity but question for you has there ever been a moment in human history
34:17where women said the the men available are incredible i don't want to come after
34:22charity specifically here but i guarantee you 250 years ago if uh paul revere was
34:29out for his ride roughly there were a lot of women in boston in colonial
34:34times complaining that there were no good men so i i have you ever heard
34:39anytime in your life buck have you ever heard women saying man there's so many
34:42great options out there i just can't believe it i mean i'll just speak the
34:45truth on this and i i can speak with a degree of of expertise here
34:49as somebody who was on and off single as an adult in new york city
34:53or washington dc for 20 years so i i know i know the game a
34:58bit you know i know how this stuff goes i have there are only sort
35:04of two buckets of problem male and female that i have come across in this
35:09respect um and and i would say this the the number one challenge that i
35:14see are people who have um too specific and therefore somewhat unrealistic expectations that's the
35:22most common problem that i see uh and the number two problem would be people
35:29who are not being honest with themselves about are you fit are you stable do
35:37you have a lot to offer and are you are you stable slash pleasant and
35:40do you have a lot to offer and and how do you line up with
35:44these things now i'm not saying this is this is very general stuff i've never
35:48met somebody i've said this before i've never met a woman who was kind fit
35:53and stable who had any problem other than too specific in what she wanted and
36:00i've never met a man who was fit successful and kind who ever had a
36:07problem other than unwilling to commit and make a decision so there are some pretty
36:12clear paradigms that play out here i would also point out that i would actually
36:18argue there may be too many options because on social media as opposed to not
36:23having enough sometimes when you're constantly scrolling on social media or any of the dating
36:29apps it seems to me that you're unwilling to commit to any one and so
36:34you end up just kind of drowning in options by the way we didn't get
36:38to the crazy story from the new york post this is a day tease that
36:42we will get to it tomorrow it involves the former dhs secretary and it's a
36:47mess i tweeted about it thanks for hanging this is an iheart podcast guaranteed human