Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Feb 16 2026
2/16/202661 mincomplete
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0:10and Buck Sexton Show. We're working, everybody.
0:13This is live, baby. This show is live.
0:16We are large and in charge here on Clay and Buck.
0:19Some of you, some people are saying you have days off.
0:24Very lucky people, very big bank accounts, very fortunate people with their days off for
0:29President's Day. Clay, we do not have President's Day off.
0:33We are here to bring you all the news and to entertain you and inform
0:35you, despite it being a federal holiday.
0:38You know what percent of workers get this day off in the private industry?
0:44What would you guess? Take a guess.
0:4520%. You nailed it. Between 19 to 24, depending on the year, but about 20%.
0:51So 80 % of the private industry is still working today, but it's called a
0:56federal holiday. We didn't get it.
0:58So, you know, perhaps this year I will take off Juneteenth, in fact.
1:01We don't get Juneteenth, MLK Day.
1:06We're live Columbus Day, and we're live on President's Day, if I'm not mistaken, and
1:11also a lot of times the Friday after Thanksgiving.
1:14So we are, I think it's fair to say, in the media world, probably working
1:19way more days than the vast majority of people are.
1:22Yes, one day we'll be on that Rachel Maddow, one day a week, $30 million
1:26a year gig. But in the meantime, it's a good gig.
1:29In the meantime, we're here to bring you all the news.
1:31And for those of you who are in that fortunate 25%, you can kick back,
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2:02So go check that out.
2:03Speaking of people who don't read, this is a perfect transition, I might say.
2:10AOC and Gretchen Whitmer at the Munich Security Conference.
2:15No doubt, two women who are going to be running, probably along with Kamala, which
2:20we don't need to talk about that right now.
2:22It's sad. Probably going to be running for president.
2:26And that means that they need to burnish their national security credentials.
2:30Now, I will say, Clay and I pre -show had the discussion.
2:33Do we get into Rubio's speech, which was truly magnificent?
2:38The best Secretary of State speech I have heard, or certainly that I, I know
2:45I just watched it, but that I can remember.
2:48It was phenomenal. It addressed a lot of things.
2:51The defense of Western civilization, the ties between America and Europe, the bond that goes
2:55far beyond just a treaty or obligation of statute.
3:00This is something that is much deeper.
3:02We'll talk about that. But, Clay, let's start with this.
3:06AOC asked some questions about some things.
3:08I want to start with her.
3:11Should the U .S. defend, this is cut eight, should the U .S.
3:14defend Taiwan if China goes for it?
3:17Play eight. Would and should the U .S.
3:22actually commit U .S. troops to defend Taiwan if China were to move?
3:28You know, I think that this is such a, you know, I think that this
3:37is a, this is of course a very longstanding policy of the United States.
3:47And I think what we are hoping for is that we want to make sure
3:51that we never get to that point.
3:54And we want to make sure that we are moving in all of our economic
3:58research and our global positions to avoid any such confrontation and for that question to
4:05even arise. Clay, it's law school class and AOC got called on by the professor.
4:11And not only did she fail to do the reading, she doesn't know what case
4:15they're talking about. It's worse than that, Buck.
4:18It's like she doesn't know that there is a legislative, executive, and judicial branch of
4:24the United States government. This sounded like, if you remember the mega viral answer, the
4:30Iraq from Miss South Carolina back in the day, that went, maybe we can grab
4:35that and interspice them because I think that would be a fun take.
4:40To me, this kind of answer is disqualifying.
4:42And you might say, okay, Clay, what do you mean by that?
4:47AOC has been in Congress now, Buck, for what, eight years?
4:51Basically, didn't she get elected back in 2018 -ish, if I'm not mistaken?
4:56So I think she's been in Congress for around eight years.
4:59That's my recollection of her career.
5:02What we should do if China invades Taiwan is one of the constant hypotheticals that
5:10has existed for basically two, three generations where people have answered.
5:16Here is an easy answer that AOC could give if she had in any way
5:21a functional brain. Right now, I am a congresswoman.
5:24I don't dictate foreign policy, but I think it's important that we maintain our longstanding
5:30policy of strategic ambiguity. Maybe one day down the line, if I remember sitting behind
5:35the resolute desk, I'll have to reconcile what strategic ambiguity actually means.
5:41But today is not that day.
5:43Next question. I just did it off the top of my head.
5:46You and I are not eight -year congresspeople.
5:49We are not professional politicians.
5:51You probably know way more about this by far than most professional politicians do because
5:57you just came back from Taiwan.
6:00But to be this poor at responding to a question that is not in any
6:07way difficult. Look, if she had been asked, hey, there is a major issue right
6:12now on the border between India and Pakistan.
6:15Where should the border actually be drawn based on the inherent tensions that have existed
6:22in that region since the 1940s?
6:24What parallel should the line be AOC?
6:27Like some questions you get asked and you could say, okay, like I understand why
6:32there's not a definitive answer there.
6:34This is not one of those.
6:35It's one of the most basic questions of rudimentary knowledge that anyone in American politics
6:42should be able to answer just immediately without even any difficulty whatsoever.
6:47I would even raise the ante and do what you just did.
6:51It's even worse than that, Clay, because usually AOC knows what answer her audience wants
7:00to hear because she has come across this before.
7:04Or she doesn't even know which side of this she's supposed to be.
7:09Well, that's partly true for her side.
7:12Right. So usually it would be, you know, if it's anything having to do with
7:16Israel, take the anti -Israel side.
7:18And that's what that's what her team wants.
7:20That's what the left. That's what the commies want.
7:22Anti -Israel. That's what AOC has to do.
7:24Right. There are some issues where it just falls in this bucket.
7:27Is it white people and brown people anywhere in the world?
7:30Any issue? Got to favor the brown people.
7:32That's just what her audience demands.
7:34That's what her supporters expect.
7:36And then you sit here, you go, OK, on this one, she doesn't even know
7:41what side of it her supporters want her to be on.
7:45So it's yes, there's the lack of knowledge, the lack of information.
7:48That's clear. But beyond that, there is she hasn't even thought about this enough to
7:54know what rote answer she's supposed to give this.
7:58But I was going to say this ties in directly to your point, Buck, when
8:01she answered about Rubio saying, hey, there's a history of Europe even founded in the
8:06Cowboys and how they came to exist.
8:08This ties in with that, Buck, where her default is just white people, bad, brown,
8:14black people, good. And that's going to be the metric under which I try to
8:18answer any question. But it just exposes her.
8:21Listen to this, Buck, cut six, talking about cowboys.
8:24Rubio's speech was a pure appeal to Western culture.
8:31My favorite part was when he said that American cowboys came from Spain and I
8:39believe the Mexicans and descendants of of African slave enslaved peoples would like to have
8:47a word on that. She doesn't know.
8:51To be clear, that wasn't a misstatement.
8:53She doesn't know that there were no horses, nor was there any domestication of animals
8:58in the Americas, with the exception, as I pointed out on Twitter, of llamas by
9:03the Incas in South America.
9:04There were no horses. There were no cows that were domesticated in North America or
9:10at least in the 50 states or 48 states of America and Mexico.
9:16And Clay, she doesn't know that the natives got their horses from the Spanish conquistadors.
9:20She doesn't know, it seems, that Mexicans are descendants of Spaniards.
9:28That's why they speak Spanish.
9:30There's a reason for I was going to say there's a reason for an Espanol
9:33in Mexico. They're not speaking Aztec down there.
9:37Yeah, right. I also think her opening criticism, we've got one more cut from her,
9:43and I do think the disconnect in the average intellectual heft between Marco Rubio and
9:49AOC. Is, I don't know, 30, 40 IQ points, potentially, in terms of their ability
9:55to communicate and understand larger issues.
9:57Yes, Marco Rubio defended Western civilization because Western civilization is the foundation of all basically
10:06human progress throughout the past thousand years, two thousand years, however far back you want
10:12to go. And this is also tying in to your point with she just kind
10:18of falls back on this identity politics claptrap, which is a camouflage for morons from
10:25having to actually engage on an intellectual level with complicated ideas.
10:30Where she says, again, brown and black people heroes, whiteness is imaginary.
10:36I don't even know what that means.
10:38Cut seven. There's a very big difference between whiteness and national, like your actual culture,
10:47right? Whiteness is an imaginary thing.
10:51Being German. I don't know what that means.
10:52I don't know what that means.
10:52and is real being italian is real uh you know being english um these are
10:59rich cultural heritages that are based on values and they are so much a part
11:07of what make our our our cultures and our societies what they are okay let's
11:13let's let's play this game for a second though so what is blackness yeah to
11:18be clear what is what is black culture i didn't want to play this game
11:21for a second uh if you start saying things like uh you know uh jazz
11:27music uh you know i i don't know you know basketball america that's african -american
11:33that's black american culture yes to her point how is it any different i'm i'm
11:37pretty sure that the people of mozambique think of themselves as living a different culture
11:41and different life than people who grew up in the suburbs of philly or chicago
11:45or in the city center pretty sure so what exactly is her point somebody who
11:50talks about black and brown people all the time oh that's right brown people peruvians
11:56and people from malaysia very similar culture very similar well they're are they all brown
12:02they're brown so what is brownness what are black and brown people in her context
12:08this is what so i mean i think it's also funny she says western civilization
12:13isn't a thing and then she goes and says british german and italian cultures are
12:17real and they should be proud like she isn't even capable of maintaining a coherent
12:23line of thought because and i do think this is important identity politics has so
12:29overtaken the democrat party that they cannot look at anything outside the prism of colonizer
12:37and colonized it so overtakes oppressor and oppressed it so overtakes their mind and destroys
12:44their ability to think that they can't cannot even acknowledge or understand historical context as
12:52a result uh we'll have some fun with this we'll open up phone lines i
12:55don't think we have any guests uh like buck said we are working when a
12:58lot of people are not even though the vast majority of you in the private
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14:45get your podcasts welcome back in clay travis buck sexton show uh some sad news
14:52robert deval um 95 years old legendary actor godfather apocalypse now to kill a mockingbird
15:03i loved him in one of the great westerns of all time lonesome dove uh
15:10for those of you out there who remember the uh mini series based on the
15:14larry mcmurtry pulitzer prize winning book um he was uh mccall uh gus he was
15:23gus and call was paid played by tommy lee jones one of the great westerns
15:28i think it was a mini series on television probably the greatest mini series of
15:33all time incredible thousand page book about a cattle drive from texas to montana uh
15:38but robert deval and a lot of you obviously are going to remember him from
15:41godfather uh but robert deval dead um at the age of 95 that has just
15:49come down in the past couple of uh minutes you have a favorite robert deval
15:54character one in the consulary consulary and the godfather is i think the that's just
16:02you can't be more iconic in a non -leading role than that i think i
16:06think that was really he was really good sir i'm german irish you know i
16:11remember the whole memory goes he goes the guy oh yeah he wants to roll
16:14and he's like and if he tries any rough stuff i ain't a boy scout
16:18remember that whole thing then the horse's head and his bed godfather one is an
16:21incredible holds up and an incredible a lot of old movies people don't like to
16:26hear this there's a lot of indicating not acting they're too slow whatever godfather one
16:30is incredible still to this day great i think you can make an argument godfather
16:34two is better than godfather one which is one of the rare of all time
16:38sequels that you can even make an argument is better than the original a lot
16:42of people say that i'm i'm in the camp that the original the first one
16:46is still the best one the second one is obviously a phenomenal movie too um
16:49i like the first one better just as a movie i i enjoyed it more
16:52um a lot of people of our parents generation i think would say that the
16:56godfather is their they think the best movie of all time there's definitely a fair
17:01enough if you look on like like top 100 all -time movie lists godfather is
17:05routinely one and two are routinely top 10 top five uh truly phenomenal in fact
17:12i was talking about the godfather this weekend with my kids who haven't seen it
17:16yet i was telling them i need to uh to get it on uh all
17:19right uh let's play a couple of these other cuts we mentioned um well should
17:24i mention should i update the nancy guthrie thing i mean they still lead the
17:28news with it every single day and so i figure there must be a huge
17:33segment of this population that is following it every single instant uh here is the
17:39latest on nancy nancy guthrie let me play it for you tmz now says that
17:43they have received a fourth different ransom note uh and that this uh this email
17:50that they have received says that nancy guthrie is now in mexico it has been
17:55what 16 days i believe uh since she went missing out in arizona and that
18:02is let me make sure i get this cut right that is cut 32 i
18:06believe it is monday morning we have received a fourth letter from the same person
18:11who says that he knows where nancy guthrie is and he wants money uh in
18:17return for the information essentially he wants the reward so i have something to say
18:23to you and i have already talked to the fbi about this that if you
18:28are not real you're committing a crime and you should know that and this is
18:32a serious federal crime if you are real this is the fourth letter you've sent
18:38and i should tell everybody that in this letter it says i know what i
18:42saw five days ago south of the border and i was told to shut up
18:47so i know who he is and that was definitely nancy with them so i
18:55don't know if you're real or not if you're watching this but if you are
18:59if you're worried about getting this money and you really do have this information send
19:04it to us you're sending us these letters send it to us we will forward
19:08it to the fbi okay so that is ongoing it is obsessive coverage for two
19:15straight weeks and candidly very little in the uh in the realm of certainty that
19:23has come out um savannah guthrie has uh put out a video trying to address
19:28the people who have kidnapped uh her mom allegedly uh the search for the guy
19:33who was on i presume it's a man that was on the video uh does
19:37not seem to have led to any tangible result there so uh that is the
19:42latest on that one buck you were mentioning obama we'll get to him in the
19:45third hour uh for everything he had to say but i did want to play
19:49this gavin newsom who is certainly running for president went overseas to munich and he
19:56said in germany that ice are basically nazis um and this is the argument that
20:04is continuing to be made to go overseas to germany the birthplace of actual nazis
20:11and uh and make this argument is i think even beyond the pale for gavin
20:17newsom it also confirms that basically everybody that democrats don't like is a nazi or
20:23is hitler this is just a never -ending argument that they are on the constant
20:28nazi merry -go -round with uh but here was gavin newsom saying this in germany
20:33the country that did produce actual nazis oh today ice agents enforcing america's immigration law
20:40they're nazis listen i want to remember all those images of masked men the secret
20:45police something familiar in germany those first images came out of my state the second
20:51largest city in the united states of america we saw 4 000 national guard federalized
20:55first time we're never sitting like this and 700 active duty marines sent not overseas
21:01but to the second largest city in the united states of america militarizing the streets
21:05of my city masked men masked men showing up unaccountable no idea um okay i
21:13mean look as ridiculous as these arguments are it's even more absurd to go to
21:19the birthplace of legitimate nazis and argue that ice are nazis and i will point
21:25out buck that right after president trump got shot in july of 2024 democrats came
21:31out and said oh the nazi rhetoric has to stop and then lasted about what
21:36two weeks and then they went right back to uh republicans or nazis donald trump's
21:41a nazi everybody that votes for donald trump is nazi adjacent and now ice are
21:45the new nazis well but the The problem that they have is, if Trump is
21:49a Nazi, why should the Nazi rhetoric stop?
21:52And why should you not kill him, right?
21:54I mean, that's the real challenge of this, right?
21:56If he's actually Hitler. That's the next level of the analysis.
21:59Yeah. But they should kill him.
22:01The people who are saying, hey, maybe we tone down the Nazi rhetoric are people
22:05who have said he's a Nazi.
22:06So if you've said he's a Nazi, why would you tone it down?
22:10If you've said he's a Nazi and he's not, that's the only reason you would
22:14tone it down. So they're essentially admitting that they're scumbag liars, which is not a
22:18surprise. But that's where things are.
22:21It's also tiresome. But that kind of psychological manipulation is very common among demagogues and
22:28among leftist totalitarian movements, which I get into in some detail in Manufacturing Delusion, the
22:34fantastic book that is available tomorrow on wherever fine books are sold, including online.
22:38How many interviews are you?
22:41Where will people hear you promoting the new book, which is out tomorrow and everybody
22:45should go by? A whole bunch of shows.
22:48Some of your favorite conservatives are very kindly going to be having me on their
22:51programs, which will be a lot of fun.
22:55Not going to get on Rogan.
22:57I don't know what it is.
22:59At this point, Rogan's had so many episodes.
23:02Neither you nor I have been on that show.
23:04Yeah. And at this point, it's like, well, I'm going to be episode number 6000
23:07in like the year 2055 or something like, you know, there's like comedians.
23:11I've never heard of that.
23:12No one's ever heard of the go on there.
23:13People are coming back for like their eighth round.
23:15I'm just like, all right, man.
23:16No love. No love from Joe.
23:18What can I tell you?
23:19It is. It is what it is.
23:21They're only two CIA guy writes what's clearly going to be a bestseller about mind
23:24control. Why would Joe Rogan want to talk about that book?
23:27I don't know. It's no interest.
23:28Only two outlets that I would want to do that I haven't done.
23:32I mean this honestly. Bill Maher, for whatever reason, won't have me on.
23:36I think it has to do with the the banning from CNN because they're owned
23:41HBO and CNN. Same parent company, Warner Brothers.
23:44I would go on that show.
23:45You went on that show.
23:46You've been on several times.
23:47It's a fun sort of Donnybrook over a variety of different issues.
23:52And then Joe Rogan is the other one I would put on.
23:54Otherwise, like I don't even I feel like I've done every well, the view.
23:58Right. I mean, there are some that would just be fun to go.
24:00I have a dream, Clay.
24:02I have a dream that one day the two of us will get to do
24:04the view together. And and now maybe this is a fantasy more than a dream,
24:10but it would be a lot of fun.
24:11That's all I could say.
24:12It would be great time for everybody all involved.
24:14Well, were you on when I had Brendan Carr on?
24:16I think you were out that day, that chairman of the FCC.
24:19And I said, just so you know, because he's got continues to give guidance about
24:23the fact. I don't know if you saw this story.
24:25I think it's a huge story.
24:26I meant to share it on my Twitter feed.
24:27Um, about the, uh, unfair treatment of political ideas.
24:32Did you see Apple News, which is among the biggest of all news sources, has
24:38basically not linked Fox News, the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal.
24:43It only links left leaning news sources.
24:46And so if you're out there and you were just super busy and you get
24:50your iPhone and you used Apple News to inform you as to what is going
24:55on in the world, uh, Apple News only cites left wing news organizations.
25:02It never ever cites. And I'm talking about big organizations.
25:06I mean, Fox News kind of big, uh, the Wall Street Journal kind of big
25:09New York Post, pretty big, um, never cites them.
25:13Um, and so it's actually not only the citation, the site traffic that a site
25:19like that sends is a basically in -kind contribution to the overall business itself.
25:25Because if you go look, and I know this because I ran, uh, Outkick for
25:29a long time, and you go look at the data on where traffic comes from,
25:34even now in an AI age, Google, Apple News, um, these big sort of news
25:43aggregating sites drive tremendous, uh, traffic that is translated into real dollars from an advertising
25:53perspective and they're not even citing it.
25:56But when we had Brendan Carr on, uh, I pointed out to him, Hey, you
26:00know, Buck and I emailed the ladies at the view because they argued that they
26:04invite conservatives, but they just don't come on.
26:07And I thought Bill Maher was funny about this too, because Bill Maher said, yeah,
26:11basically every conservative that I invite comes on the show.
26:15Lots of left wingers won't come on because they are afraid of leaving their bubble.
26:20Where no one challenges their arguments.
26:23This is, this is something that I've been saying, Clay, for a very long time,
26:26which is starting even on, like, I was a college Republican in the year, the
26:31first time in the year 2000.
26:33Okay. So going back quite a ways, uh, starting in college and then all the
26:36way up through, if you happen to do anything in media, writing, TV work, any
26:41of that kind of stuff, radio, uh, the right wing ecosystem was one of constant,
26:48you know, iron sharpens iron, right?
26:50It was constant, uh, heat and challenge and difficulty.
26:56And, you know, how do you get stronger through overcoming challenges through resilience through whereas
27:02the left wing, you got to just bounce from easy overpaid gig, the easy overpaid
27:06gig, huge ecosystem for you to go to never challenged or whatever they got intellectually
27:12flabby and flimsy and they got the media that they did.
27:15observe as a result of that it's really true uh i clay and i've said
27:19talk about this before we could sit here there's a whole i could name a
27:23dozen and i mean big name people right because the left was like what about
27:27this guy who's like an assistant professor of this at harvard who's also writing for
27:31you know huff post on the on occasion no i mean their big names our
27:35big names are way more competent and way more capable and intelligent than their big
27:40names in media it's not even close not even close would absolutely smoke them not
27:45just clay and me a lot of the others out there too our team just
27:49better smarter uh individuals because we've had to be because it wasn't it wasn't possible
27:54to just go everywhere you wanted to go and have everyone applaud whatever dumb ass
27:58stuff you had to say which is true of a lot of people that worked
28:00at you know cnn and then abc and then you know and at the bbc
28:05and then you know all these different it's all the same crap well you have
28:08to know the full scope of arguments uh which is the only way that you
28:12can actually be well versed and i still think most people on the left have
28:17no earthly idea what arguments we make on this show and i said i mean
28:21they don't even hear when their side people like aoc embarrass themselves at the munich
28:28conference it just doesn't even echo or ricochet inside of their world such that they
28:33can realize that they're supporting true ignoramuses all right let's talk about something that is
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30:08podcasts third hour of clay and buck on this president's day where clay and buck
30:14are both working as is our amazing team located in new york city some of
30:20you are on holiday some of you get to celebrate the president's kind of a
30:26weird holiday isn't it when you think about it well what exactly is the holiday
30:29well it's just washington's birthday and then they expanded it to lincoln and now it's
30:34just kind of a weird construct well it's like expanded to lincoln but it's like
30:38we're doing a dual birthday so what kind of kind of nonsense is this this
30:43is a little little bit of it's a weird how let's be honest let's be
30:45honest everybody what is president's day really for getting a great deal on a mattress
30:50uh maybe a lawnmower perhaps some outdoor furniture like that's really what president's day is
30:57all about it's a time for businesses to establish a post christmas sale when they
31:03can move inventory am i right or am i right i mean that certainly is
31:07the thing you would see back in the day i don't know they advertised that
31:11as much back in the day when newspapers existed there were always mattress cells that
31:15was the big president's day i don't know that they really pull that anymore but
31:18by the way since it is president's day and i know we're going to get
31:21to obama but did you see i was actually stunned by um something that i
31:28saw come down which i think is indicative of how successful they have been in
31:34defining modern day uh of the ideas of the presidency did you see the rankings
31:39for people today of who the best presidents are oh no okay i thought you
31:43were off -roading as you tend to do and all of a sudden we're going
31:46to be talking about some football thing no this is actually about presidents directly on
31:50president's day i mean some of this is not going to surprise you according to
31:54americans this is from you gov uh abraham lincoln is seen as the greatest president
31:59of all time i think a lot of people would kind of nod along and
32:02say you know winning the civil war kind of a big deal ending slavery uh
32:06george washington you don't like i think you got to give g i think g
32:10-dubs it's got to be g -dubs i'm sorry g -dubs he's in third this
32:14one really surprised me john f kennedy is second what get out of here trash
32:19listen to this trash listen to this a la poubelle in the trash abraham lincoln
32:25one john f kennedy two george washington three this one surprised me a little bit
32:31i think it's actually just a sign that people don't know there's more than one
32:35roosevelt theodore roosevelt fourth place uh and then franklin roosevelt sixth place thomas jefferson in
32:44fifth place this one also surprised me john adams but who is like the big
32:49john adams fans out there like that he would be the seventh best president of
32:53all time a little bit of a surprise i mean look i think the founders
32:57you got to give the early guys a little bit of a uh you know
33:03extra points for you know washington it's like if he met you know kamala messes
33:09up she goes on a book tour washington messed up he was going to get
33:12hanged right it's a different deal and the whole country was potentially going to cease
33:18to exist either either way yes i'm saying um stay for maybe a little bit
33:23more significant for washington than others yeah yeah i i think you got to give
33:27washington a little bit more uh i think it's interesting that jefferson doesn't appear on
33:31these lists well jefferson is at five fd oh he's at five okay yeah john
33:36adams uh seven ronald reagan eight madison nine and then it starts to get wonky
33:43obama nine get out of here what list is this is this is this is
33:48the communist .com what is this how americans rate presidents this one blew my mind
33:54jimmy carter plus six the communists this is all trash the bots from india have
34:01made this thing up there's no way what what jumped out to me is okay
34:04richard nixon not very popular joe biden not very popular george w bush a lot
34:09of current presidents by and large not very popular but this one andrew jackson minus
34:15three and i don't think a lot of people think about this but when they
34:20were trying to take jackson off the twenty dollar bill which seems to basically have
34:24ended they have basically created in the world the idea that all andrew jackson did
34:32in his eight years as president was the trail of tears and i thought this
34:37was interesting because when you and i were in school andrew jackson would have been
34:42considered one of the best presidents in the country and they have been so successful
34:46at defining jackson entirely based on the trail of tears that he now has collapsed
34:53in his overall popularity well this is why this stuff matters is because these fights
34:57over history actually fights over the narrative in the present right this is it all
35:01it all is meant to influence our thinking and our feelings about what is in
35:05the here and now there is power at stake with the history that we believe
35:09or with the history that we accept uh and and so that's why the left
35:13is always rewriting history as fast as they can and you noted nixon i know
35:17we're all supposed to hate nixon so much the democrat party in this country hated
35:20nixon because he was a staunch anti -communist and he was right about the fact
35:23that they were a bunch of damn commies and sold out the country at the
35:26highest levels so they were kind of ticked off about that so they tried to
35:29get him back there's a lot of stuff that people don't and you look up
35:32the venona project which was a top secret military program about the penetrations of the
35:37united states government all democrats by the way including at some of the very highest
35:40levels of our government uh this was a real thing it was declassified in the
35:4480s i think it was and the communist menace was far more kids don't even
35:48learn about this in school and how many people even know about the project venona
35:52there's very very few um but clay my my point on all this is yeah
35:56of course they want to find presidents of the past and elevate them that are
36:00um meant to push certain ideas and policies uh today i mean the notion of
36:06barack obama as a great president that's that's absurd the notion of jimmy carter as
36:11a great president jimmy carter is even it's even crazy to me uh well i
36:15mean i actually think that carter probably did less damage actively brock obama's signature thing
36:20well you know we should we get into the obama well yeah let's get into
36:23let me hit you with one more thing to you because i think you made
36:25a good point about the fact that the history is being used to dictate the
36:28way we talk today they tried to replace andrew jackson with harriet tubman i think
36:33that's been somewhat forestalled but remember they were going to replace alexander hamilton on the
36:39ten dollar bill but hamilton the musical was so popular that they rescinded the idea
36:47of taking him off money this is 200 years after he died in the uh
36:53duel with aaron burr so if you're out there and you're thinking oh a lot
36:57of these guys have to have fixed historical records because it's been 200 years since
37:03they died jackson has been torn down really in the 21st century meanwhile alexander hamilton
37:10who was obviously never a president has surged up entirely based on the way they're
37:15talked about today it's not like they're continuing to alter the trajectory of their presidencies
37:20or we're still having fallout from it that's because a lot of americans unfortunately when
37:25they think of hamilton alexander hamilton they think of a puerto rican guy rapping badly
37:31so that's true that's why he gets to stay on the ten dollar bill i
37:36i mean it is really crazy okay on obama he did a sit -down interview
37:40he said a lot of things let's start running through this this is the most
37:43this is the most quintessential obama thing in existence which is to say something that
37:51is that he in fact is self -refuting in the statement itself he was sitting
37:57down with uh some left -wing podcast guy and here we go obama this is
38:02cut nine about how we the right are angry and mean and divisive unlike them
38:09the left they them who are warm, cuddly, fantastic, and inclusive.
38:15Play nine. The other side does the mean, angry, demagoguery, you know, exclusive, us -them,
38:27you know, divisive politics. That's their home court.
38:34Our court is coming together.
38:37Our court is, look, you know, a great example, wasn't political, bad bunnies halftime.
38:45I knew you were going to say that.
38:46Well, it was, it resonated, it was smart, because it wasn't preaching, it was showing,
38:56it was demonstrating and displaying, this is what a community is.
39:01Clay, he's wrong on all counts, but I also love the, unlike those other jerks,
39:06we're really nice and inclusive, we're the inclusive side while being exclusive of them.
39:13Barack Obama's tenure was, I think, more than anything else, characterized by bringing back race
39:21riots in the 21st century, BLM 1 .0.
39:24It brought people together while they were burning down neighborhoods out of anti -white rage.
39:28That's not good. I wonder how plugged in Obama actually is on very much that's
39:36going on. How much is him knowingly lying versus just not really paying that much
39:43attention to the day -to -day trajectories of politics?
39:46And the reason why I ask that is, remember Kamala tried to call him out,
39:51you know, go to the bullpen, so to speak, and Obama came and tried to
39:55campaign for Kamala, and I thought was really bad and seemed tone deaf.
40:00He lectured black guys that they needed to vote for her and that it was
40:05sexist of them not to be supporting Kamala in the same way that he was
40:10supported. And he never really got engaged with Biden at all, because I think Obama
40:16knew Biden was out to lunch and wasn't able to actually do the job.
40:22And so when I see and hear the sit downs, he sounds pretty out of
40:28touch with what's going on right now.
40:31And obviously, when you're the president of the United States, you have to be at
40:35least aware of what's going on.
40:36I think he's just a rich, out -of -touch leftist, like many of the people
40:42that are in Hollywood right now.
40:46And what cut exactly did you play?
40:48Because there's so many of these.
40:50I played nine, but there's so many others we can get into here.
40:53We could do the whole show just on Obama's nonsense.
40:56Here's cut 11. Obama says they have a much harder job than Republicans because they're
41:02not as mean, other than trying to kill Trump a couple of times.
41:06Cut 11. Yes, we have a harder job because sometimes I think we're tough on
41:11Democrats saying, why aren't you being as mean and tough and nasty as there?
41:15Well, you know, when I was president of the United States, I suppose I could
41:19have simply unilaterally ordered the military to go into some red state and harass and
41:28intimidate a governor there or cut off funding for states that didn't vote for me.
41:34I could have exercised that prerogative, but that is contrary to how I think our
41:39democracy is supposed to work.
41:40And I think we shouldn't get discouraged by the fact that we have a tougher
41:45job. What we should do is expect that our side is smart enough to figure
41:50it out. Clay, Obama explicitly threatened to cut off education funds to, I think it
41:56was, North Carolina over the bathroom gender policy bill.
42:02Essentially, you have to let trannies use whatever bathroom they want or else we're going
42:05to cut in school or else we're going to cut off funds.
42:08So he actually was thuggish in his use of government power.
42:15He sued nuns for heaven's sakes.
42:17And he's complaining about Trump enforcing immigration law.
42:20Really? He's a nice guy.
42:22I would like to hear someone interviewed who is on the left.
42:27And I would like the question to be, we hit a 125 year low in
42:32murders. Do you think Donald Trump deserves any credit for that at all?
42:37Because you're talking about him sending troops into red states and sorry, whether Obama could
42:42have done it, sending troops into blue states.
42:44The results of that have been that way more people who tended to vote Democrat
42:48are alive today than otherwise would.
42:51I would just like to hear somebody say, does Trump deserve any credit at all?
42:56Do you think the southern border being the most secure than it's ever been in
43:01our life, do you think that is in any way connected to us setting 125
43:05year low for murders? What answer will they?
43:10I'd like to hear AOC really answer that because whatever you think about Obama, he's
43:14smart. AOC is a moron.
43:17We'll continue to talk about this.
43:18We'll take your calls. We got some interesting talkbacks, as I said, to finish off
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44:52All right, Crash, DJ Crash, what is that intro we just heard?
44:57Because we all play, and I know we know that song, but I don't know
45:01the name of that song.
45:02What is that? Vehicle by the Ides of March.
45:06I know it from Shaft.
45:08That's the only place I ever remember hearing that intro.
45:11Is this Crash? Are you just running a playlist circa 1970 to 1975?
45:17Is that how you're rolling here for the show?
45:20Just so I know, so we're all clear on this one.
45:25Oh, okay. He's not even picking it all.
45:29I thought he was in charge of DJing this thing.
45:31Because I'm learning new songs here.
45:33I have no idea what some of this stuff is.
45:35So some of the funky tunes.
45:37Oh, Mike left. Producer Mike is out right now.
45:40And he left some tracks behind for us to groove out to.
45:44He's having surgery. We wish him well.
45:45I don't know if he'll be listening to the program as he's recuperating.
45:48But we hope he's getting back safe and sound.
45:53So we have a bunch of things to get to.
45:56We were just, though, talking about the mafia thing.
46:00I will say that was always the problem.
46:01We had a listener get very mad that we're promoting the mafia, which I don't
46:05think that's what we're doing.
46:06The Godfather is kind of a universally celebrated film.
46:09There are plenty of movies.
46:11I could say The Exorcist is it.
46:12Of all the things that we could get.
46:13And by the way, the reason we were talking about The Godfather is, this is
46:16a sad story. Robert Duvall died 95 years old.
46:20So we were talking about all the movies that he had been in that were
46:24iconic. And The Godfather is one of those roles.
46:28I said Lonesome Dove, which is one of the great Westerns of all time.
46:32I did not anticipate that we would be criticized for saying The Godfather 1 and
46:362 are good films. I didn't see that one coming.
46:40But I will say, I think in general, that the Italian mafia in America has
46:47gotten far more generous pop culture treatment than it actually deserves.
46:53That's my... And I had an uncle in law enforcement who worked against the mob
46:58in New York for a while.
46:59And this was a thing.
47:00He would kind of stand on this one.
47:03He would say, he would stand on this hill, and he would say that the
47:07notion that these guys, they're all just, you know, they're honorable family guys who've got
47:13to do what they've got to do.
47:14I mean, there may be a little bit of that, but there was a lot
47:16of, I'm sending two thugs to collect the gambling debt, and I'm going to break,
47:21you know, this single father's kneecaps unless they give me the money.
47:24Like, that's actually what they were doing.
47:26So... Is it fair to say, I think this is probably accurate, that whatever criminal
47:32element you were in, it has been better received.
47:36Like, there aren't that many in the last 20 years, I would say, good guy,
47:42bad guy setups. It feels like the bad guys have become the anti -hero, no
47:47matter whether it's the mob, whether it's drug dealing, whatever it is, they have flipped
47:54the script on good guys, right?
47:57Like, who is the last real good guy that was popular in popular culture, and
48:02he didn't have a dark side?
48:04I was... The reason I was actually thinking about this, because Laura last night, as
48:07we got ready for bed, was watching Little House on the Prairie.
48:10Whatever you think about Little House on the Prairie, it was a top show for
48:16eight or nine years, and all...
48:19We talked about this before.
48:20All of the father figures are just really good.
48:23Like, Michael Landon is just a really...
48:24Pa is a really good guy.
48:26When's the last show that was popular, where the good guys are just good?
48:31Well, this is now you're getting into the broader theme of, I think, in general,
48:36Hollywood has... And the creative industries in this country in general have just pushed a
48:41lot of degeneracy, and a lot of...
48:45You know, we grew up, and there would be shows, and now I'm giving up
48:49the game here, because Clay and I actually watched the same shows, because he would
48:52have been in high school at the same time.
48:55But there were shows like Full House, Danny Tanner, which is funny, because Bob Saget,
49:01in Rest in Peace, in real life, was kind of a salty comedian, but Danny
49:05Tanner... He knows both of you, but, and then I would say that he didn't
49:06get into the self -hissing on on full house was like lovable reliable dad all
49:11about his kids you know wife had died i think of cancer or something on
49:15the show i forget what the backstory was um but uh same thing with um
49:19carl from full house i'm sorry not full house uh family matters lovable dad cop
49:25middle class black family you know everybody same thing with fresh prince uncle phil takes
49:30in the kid uh i know what happened with bill cosby but no i know
49:35this is we always do the cosby thing you know there's cosby the character versus
49:38you got to be able to separate these things a little bit um so yeah
49:41fresh prince by the way you know that house is up for that house is
49:43like a 60 million dollar house now that they that they use as the base
49:47yeah no it's not like a nice house it's a crazy nice house is that
49:51that well that they the growing pains like you run through tony danza who's the
49:56boss every dad uh told tim allen these these dads were dedicated competent masculine handsome
50:04were handsome enough and then we kind of got into the era of dads are
50:10all kind of schlubs or the only dads that can be competent are dads that
50:16are uh sort of non -traditional you know they have something about them that is
50:21you know maybe there's two dads then the dads can be good like you start
50:25to look at this and you go what what really is the messaging that is
50:28being sent um i think that this is i think it's very real i don't
50:32think this is something that we sound like church lady from snl over here like
50:36well isn't that special like i think that there's actually a real thing behind this
50:40and it's you know who i would say coach eric taylor friday night lights last
50:44great dad character on television he's a great i also i'm like a carl uh
50:49kyle chandler super fan is like i like him and everything he's in i think
50:53and if you haven't seen friday night lights it's a little weird because they have
50:56like 30 year old abercrombie models playing like 16 year old high school kids you
51:01got to get past that for a second uh which they don't really do you
51:04know they actually have people that play their age much more now there it wasn't
51:08too long ago i even showed you clay well my mom played a high school
51:12student in summer of my german soldier she was in her 20s and had two
51:16kids she was playing a 16 year old yeah right it was very common i
51:19mean beverly hills now 210 is the most like uh back in the day i
51:23mean you had people who were in their 30s like andrea was in her 30s
51:26playing high school man was like 35 playing a 16 i've never seen someone in
51:30their 30s and i'm like they look like they're in high school like that's not
51:33a thing so that was something that we all just accepted in television for a
51:38while was very weird friday night lights has a little bit of that like some
51:41of the characters are well cast but some of them look way to my the
51:44guy who gets paralyzed in the show to me he looks like he's you know
51:48in his late 20s uh and also tyra there are no high school girls that
51:53look like tyra uh she went on to play like a marvel superheroine or whatever
51:57right after this like that's she's not in high school i got to meet her
52:00once i i was such a fan of friday night light she was in uh
52:03at the hotel bar uh by the fox lot and uh and i went over
52:08and said i'm a huge fan but i mean to your point we basically have
52:11eliminated dads from pop culture and there are no positive dad pop culture characters and
52:18i think there is a huge opportunity to push back against the counter culture and
52:25solve this issue i think there's a demand for it have you is the tim
52:29allen show uh is that one that i didn't forget what people i i always
52:33get lit up for not having watched i really have not seen tim allen's stuff
52:36and i know ever says he's great and uh is he a dad the last
52:41man standing is good he's great in the santa claus which a lot of people
52:44will see every christmas season as a you know failed or struggling dad but i
52:50think there just became this idea we're talking about the mob tony soprano to me
52:56became the ideal father figure and it just descent meaning in terms of what they
53:03wanted to create in uh in in art in in shows and then it descended
53:08from soprano and just got worse and worse i mean i guess they they have
53:13to because they can't have you hate the guy but the truth is they're always
53:17like he's not really a mobster because he always will kind of draw this line
53:23of not doing the thing that's like really goes too far and the truth is
53:27that's not the way that these guys operate and well and then they they hurt
53:31a lot of they hurt and threaten a lot of innocent defenseless people that's actually
53:36what organized crime does like no one makes these excuses for the russian mob like
53:40the russian mob is particularly ruthless with what they do back home in russia it's
53:45one of the ways they enforce i worked with an nypd guy who spent his
53:48whole career in the russian mob used to ask him questions about this all the
53:50time and he says that they they hear they just want to rip people off
53:53and run scams but if you're part of the russian community and you rat or
53:57you do they'll they'll get your family back in russia that's actually how they go
54:01after people a lot of the time and they're absolutely ruthless no one's like yeah
54:04but they're family guys you know what i mean you know who never has a
54:08positive portrayal probably deservedly so cartels there's no like oh the cartels are actually pretty
54:14good guys and i mean sosa and scarface is pretty slick but i hear you
54:18so so you're like if i have to hang out with a cartel guy this
54:22guy i bet he throws great dinner parties most of the mexican cartel stories uh
54:27or the latin american stories the bad guys are pretty bad um but anyway i
54:33i do think It's emblematic that this conversation came out of the guy being upset.
54:38The movie is fantastic. It isn't aspirational.
54:41And it reminds me of, do you remember when, I thought Julia Roberts actually had
54:46a great response on this, but when Pretty Woman came out, Julia Roberts started getting
54:52criticized. And they said, you know, my daughter now wants to grow up and be
54:56a hooker. Oh, I agree with the Pretty Woman criticism.
54:59I think Pretty Woman is a trash movie.
55:01It's bizarre. The whole thing makes no sense.
55:03But her argument was, well, you shouldn't be showing Pretty Woman to, like, a 10
55:08-year -old. Well, that's true.
55:10That's also true. But I think that's a little bit of a cop -out, because
55:14the whole, if you think about Pretty Woman, it's a horrible movie.
55:17I'm not saying it's not entertaining.
55:19I'm not saying it's not entertaining, but if you look at what this is about,
55:23first of all, I mean, I don't know.
55:24Are you suggesting that super rich guys who are good -looking, like Richard Gere, don't...
55:30And fundamentally kind and decent aren't picking up hookers on Rodeo, or not on Rodeo
55:34Drive, on Hollywood Boulevard, and then having them live with them for the week?
55:37Yeah. Not so much. It is an absurd and honestly grotesque movie, but it's got
55:44a good soundtrack. And, you know, everyone's supposed...
55:47I'm also, by the way, Julia Roberts, overrated.
55:51Maybe even, I mean, not quite as overrated as Natalie Portman, but still overrated.
55:57I don't care what anyone says.
55:59I think Julia Roberts back in the day, I was going to say, you know
56:01what movie really doesn't stand up?
56:04Big. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Weird.
56:08Weird. Big, which made like $500 million back in the day and starred Tom Hanks,
56:15is if you watch Big today, you're like, this is a super, super weird movie,
56:22like on so many different levels.
56:25Go back. I thought the recent movie with the...
56:29I said it's the woman who falls in love with her aquarium pet, The Shape
56:33of Water. I've never seen that.
56:35It won the best picture, Clay, like five years ago or something.
56:39It's a woman who basically, like a weird amphibious thing, amphibious...
56:46Well, she's saying, producer Allie's saying splash.
56:50Splash is like... Mermaids are...
56:53You don't need a mermaid, you got the top half as human.
56:55Also, the mermaid is clearly not real, right?
56:58Like, just FYI, I don't want to kill any of the big mermaid truthers out
57:02there, but... But The Shape of Water, this is a full -on amphibious monster, and
57:08she's like, let's get down with some naughty time amphibious monsters.
57:13Were you on a date?
57:14How did this end up on your repertoire of watching films?
57:17It was years ago. I probably was on a date.
57:20Everything that's really bad that I get back to.
57:23This doesn't sound like what...
57:24Hey, you know what I want to do in my free time?
57:26I want to watch The Shape of Water.
57:28This sounds like something you got directed.
57:30It won the Best Picture Oscar.
57:31Not like it was nominated, Clay.
57:33It won Best Picture. It's not even a good movie.
57:36And it has this woman who's falling in love with a monster.
57:38The whole thing is bizarre.
57:39Degeneracy. Pure degeneracy. And people get mad at me because they say I don't like
57:42everything. That's not true. Because, like, on Netflix, I said The Rip, which you liked,
57:45by the way, which is totally Clay.
57:48Clay. The Rip is trash.
57:50My standard for movies is, do I sit and watch it for two hours and
57:55not look at my watch to know how much time it's worth?
57:57I couldn't get through it.
57:58I couldn't even fit. I bailed last, like, half hour.
58:00I'm like, this movie is so dumb.
58:01It makes no sense at all.
58:03But people ask, Netflix has got great movies.
58:06The recent Frankenstein movie on Netflix, if those of you who actually read the original
58:10novel... I heard that it's pretty good.
58:12I've seen it advertised. I haven't watched it.
58:13It's really good. It's a beautiful rendition of the true Frankenstein tale.
58:18And it's done by... Not Benicio Del Toro.
58:21The other Del Toro. Whatever his name is.
58:23You know, not the actor, but the director.
58:25Guillermo. Guillermo. Guillermo Del Toro.
58:28And also, the All Quiet on the Western Front Netflix movie is one of the
58:33best war movies I've ever seen.
58:35Maybe even a top 10 war movie.
58:36Definitely top 20. So, they do do some good stuff.
58:40I'm not just here to trash things, but, man, the shape of water was like
58:44brain damage. I think there's a lot of...
58:48Again, I just go back, and I was thinking about it even more as I
58:51watched Little House. I'm just telling you, if you're out there, Full House, Fresh Prince,
58:56Family Matters, Growing Pains, Cosby Show, who's the boss?
58:58If you grew up in the 80s or the 90s, you have a very positive
59:01association with that. There is a huge demand, I think, for dads and moms who
59:07live in a house and like each other, sometimes argue, and, boy, the Family Ties.
59:14Like, all of these shows back in the day, they were so good and so
59:18popular, I don't believe that that demand has vanished.
59:21I really don't. I think that there is an ample opportunity to satisfy a market
59:25that has not been served in a long time with good options there.
59:29But I got to tell you, if you want to relive some nostalgia, if you
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