Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 15 2026
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0:33T's and C's apply. Welcome it, everybody, to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis
0:40and Buck Sexton Show. And we are stacked, my friends, not just with great news
0:48stories, very interesting and important things to discuss.
0:52We've also got some guests to speak with all of you about, including at the
0:57bottom of this hour, where we will have the director of the FBI, Kash Patel,
1:01joining us, talking about crime fighting.
1:04Clay, you ask for miracles.
1:07I give you the FBI director.
1:11So he will be with us.
1:12And we're going to need some new FBI guys.
1:16I think they're probably hiring in some new FBI guys, getting some good people on
1:20that team. So a lot going on there.
1:23We're going to have some fun with this.
1:24It's not going to be fun for the people that end up shopping there.
1:27But Zoran Mamdani is setting up a government -run grocery store in New York.
1:34It will take... Clay, are you already up on the stats here, by the way?
1:37Did you already see this one?
1:38I read it just because I'm fired up because today is tax day and wasted
1:43money. And when I saw that Mamdani is going to waste, you hit us with
1:48the numbers, but to try to get one grocery store, government -run.
1:51He's going to spend $30 million and three years to build a grocery store that
1:59he has already scaled back the promise of.
2:02It's not everything will be cheaper because he might have had somebody who knows something
2:07about the grocery business to explain to him, you're operating with a 1 % to
2:122 % profit margin. It's just scale that makes this a business.
2:17But you are razor thin on the margins.
2:19It's not... Think about it.
2:22People who understand capitalism, i .e.
2:24all of you, if one grocery store was selling a can of Goya beans for
2:30$3 and another grocery store was selling them for $2, people would go to the
2:35other one, right? I mean, there's competition.
2:38This is why grocery stores have to do things like a loss leader.
2:43You might say, Buck, why is it that I could go in and get London
2:45Broil at... Which is a nice cut of meat.
2:48London Broil at my local grocery store at this great price because they're actually losing
2:52money on that to get you into the store so that they can get you
2:57to get some other things that they might make some money back on, right?
3:00So we'll get into this some more, Clay, because it's really...
3:04The key thing about it, though, is everyone knows this will be a disaster.
3:09Everyone knows that Momdani's project is going to be a cautionary tale, but he is
3:14a commie, and so he can't stop.
3:17Real government grocery stores have never been tried.
3:20That's where we're going on this one.
3:21That is where this is heading.
3:22It is a slow -motion financial train wreck for the city of New York.
3:27I'm already too excited about it.
3:29We will come back to this story, I promise you.
3:31I wanted to start, Clay, because obviously we've got to get to the crime situation
3:36with the FBI director, Kash Patel, Director Patel at the bottom here.
3:41But Trump has had... Two things that I know are high on your radar.
3:45Iran, which we'll give you the latest update on.
3:48But I actually want to start with this, Clay, because I'm hearing stuff.
3:51You're hearing stuff. Friends, we might be faced with a Supreme Court vacancy here, a
3:58voluntary vacancy, meaning, you know, we're all wishing for the good health of all of
4:04the Supreme Court members. This is just someone saying, look, I'm old, I'm stepping down.
4:08The speculation is it will be Alito, or perhaps, Thomas, I think Alito is more
4:13likely. Personally, Trump was asked about this by Fox News' Maria Bartiromo.
4:18This is cut one, hit it.
4:20It's probably not easy to give up for people, you know?
4:22They reach a certain age.
4:23Ginsburg could not do it.
4:25And she really hurt herself within the Democrat Party.
4:29People are very angry at her because I got to appoint people instead of Biden.
4:35So you don't know if you're going to be naming, putting another nomination forward.
4:39Okay, Mr. President, you've got a big meeting.
4:41It's possible. Well, you know, in theory, in theory, it's two or three, they tell
4:45me. If you just read statistics, it could be two, could be three, could be
4:49one. I don't know. I'm prepared to do it, but when you mention Alito, he
4:53is a great justice. Clay, the team player move here from Alito, who I think
4:58is 76. Does that sound right?
5:00The team player move is while Trump is the president and while we have the
5:07Senate, he would get nothing but applause from me, you, and I'm sure this audience.
5:14Step aside now. Let someone else take the reins.
5:17What say you? We've been ahead of the story on this, and I give credit.
5:21This is where the prediction markets, polymarket in...
5:24particular really got my attention as i'm running through to see that alito is favored
5:31to step down and if he's going to step down we've got big decisions coming
5:35in june which will be the end of this supreme court term and then you
5:40have a little bit of a dead period and it would be uh make a
5:45lot of sense while republicans control the senate and the presidency to get a new
5:50supreme court justice in um before the october term so you have nine justices ready
5:56to go and look i hope republicans retain the senate for two years thereafter uh
6:02for the final two years of trump's 2 .0 term but that's not guaranteed um
6:07and uh so if you want to guarantee that for instance you could be replaced
6:13by potentially buck a actual one of your clerks which um again is something that
6:20a lot of supreme court justices love to do you know the person that is
6:25going to replace you you feel good about their judicial philosophy and you go through
6:31the confirmation process with that new individual i do wonder buck whether now that roe
6:37v wade has been overturned will there be a calmer supreme court justice process i
6:43know democrats are going to score their political points and they're going to lose their
6:47minds but will it be calmer than it has been in past years because we
6:54were all told if roe v wade ever gets overturned the seas will be boiling
6:59right like things will fall apart and it's actually not happened at all it's really
7:05not even a top 10 political issue in the country anymore for what determines certainly
7:09national elections because it's now up to the states which is what it should have
7:15been it really should have been all all along um but nonetheless clay and that
7:20was always the uh scalia position on this it's funny you ask that question and
7:24i'm like yes of course in a rational actor environment the supreme court temperature should
7:32be turned down post row but no i don't think so they'll find they'll find
7:38some way to make this uh you know the other big issue that comes to
7:42mind is is the birthright citizenship and that that's something democrats are clearly deranged about
7:46um but i think trans rights is another thing that gets them about as all
7:52not quite as animated as abortion but the the far left fringe wants a supreme
7:57court that will create a special carve out for trans rights there's no question about
8:03that yeah and so they will fight tooth and nail on it for that i
8:06think so so the answer is i think they will not be able to get
8:11the same mobilization but there will be plenty of crazies who treat the supreme court
8:16like it's their it's the end of the world if they don't get some communist
8:19maniac in robes yeah and look i i also would point out i mean we're
8:25dealing with this with swalwell which has brought back the echo of kavanaugh they're gonna
8:30any guy that they find we're kind of in this era now where it feels
8:35to me buck unless you are well it doesn't even matter i was gonna say
8:40unless you have only slept with one person in your entire life and only kissed
8:44one woman in your entire life that you're almost gonna get attacked and somebody's gonna
8:49say oh so and so if you're a guy and you're getting you're up for
8:52a big job so and so is a sexual abuser or a rapist he is
8:56he dated women who were too young and i was thinking well maybe if you
9:01only married one woman you were a virgin when you got it they'll just make
9:04it up anyway right like we're kind of in that that was kavanaugh kavanaugh hadn't
9:08led some some playboy lifestyle at all yes he was he was a boy scout
9:13he was a boy scout of the first order and i mean that you know
9:16in a good way as a boy scout um and and yet they they still
9:19tried to they completely fabricated things uh about him but clay who is your i
9:25mean we could do this right now look we're getting a little ahead of this
9:28there's still some rumors coming out obviously trump is being asked about it so it
9:32is now in the news cycle but i have heard from people who have heard
9:36from people who have heard from people that there is going to be a vacancy
9:41soon and everyone is i think pretty confident it would be alito but who knows
9:46could be thomas uh if that happens who is our pick who is the move
9:52for supreme court i i got it look there's a lot of judges that might
9:57be phenomenal that i don't have at my fingertips right now i'd have to see
10:02what the federalist society puts forward if you're asking me off the top of my
10:05head though mike lee would be really good mike lee would be great i'll give
10:11you one that i don't know if it's going to get any attention but i
10:14think it would be a home run ron desantis i don't know that a hundred
10:19percent he would do it i don't know i don't know that ron wants it
10:23i think that i think ron wants to run stuff i don't think he wants
10:25to be a judge personally that's just my sense i think he might like being
10:29a judge really is a and i say this in a favorable way for him
10:34he is a law nerd um and i'll tell you a story i don't know
10:38if i've told this story on the air before um but a few years ago
10:41there was a sunshine summit uh that was put on by florida i spoke at
10:45the event um and i was sitting at the table with james uthmeyer who is
10:50now the very accomplished attorney Attorney General of the state of Florida doing a really
10:54good job. He was the chief of staff for Ron DeSantis at the time.
10:57Marco Rubio is there, Byron Donalds, a lot of the guys that are friends of
11:01ours and have been on the program a lot over the years.
11:04And I sat down and I said, where is DeSantis?
11:08And Utmeier told me he's in a back room reading all of the latest court
11:14opinions coming down in the state of Florida from cover to cover so that he
11:20is completely prepared for them.
11:22So everybody else, this is 100 % true, everybody else is walking around.
11:25Hold on to your blouses, ladies.
11:27Yes, everybody else is walking around like kissing babies, posing for photos.
11:33And DeSantis, who was the keynote as the governor of Florida, as you would anticipate,
11:38is in the back reading opinions.
11:41Again, I do think Ron DeSantis would make a very good senator.
11:45He's obviously been an excellent governor.
11:47He would make a great cabinet member.
11:49Remember, a part of me thinks that he might be open to the idea of
11:55being a Supreme Court justice.
11:56And so if you asked me someone who is in the political realm who would
12:00be a great Supreme Court justice, you mentioned Mike Lee.
12:02I don't disagree with that.
12:04I think he likes being in the Senate.
12:06But I do think Ron DeSantis, remember, his term is up in November, so the
12:12timing of it could be pretty perfect, right?
12:15So you've got his term as governor coming to an end.
12:20And again, I'm not sure that Trump is going to go to a political figure.
12:24It's somewhat of a rarity, and there will be a lot of, as you just
12:28mentioned, Buck, Federalist Society recommendations, guys and gals who have been former Alito clerks that
12:36he would be very excited, I think, to have succeed him.
12:39But if you wanted me to go with a political name, I think Ron DeSantis
12:43would be an outstanding, outstanding Supreme Court justice.
12:48Remember, he's also only 46 or 47, so you would get him for 30 years.
12:53I think he would be phenomenal, quite honestly.
12:56He certainly, because this is where IQ, you know, is Ron the funniest guy?
13:01No. Okay. And also our sense of comedians and comedy and politics now because of
13:06Trump is forever. The bar has been set very high on what makes a politician
13:10funny. No one since Reagan has had anything approaching Trump's timing and comedic ability.
13:16I'm just saying, in terms of the charisma factor, you don't care about a Supreme
13:21Court justice having super high charisma.
13:23You want super high intellect, understanding, and honestly, wisdom.
13:27And Ron hits all of those notes very well.
13:30I just think that he still thinks maybe one day he's going to run for
13:33the big job, which I don't think you can do if you're a Supreme Court
13:36justice. No, no, no. It's true.
13:38I would say this. It also would be an easy vetting.
13:41Like, whatever you think about Ron DeSantis, when you run for president, they go through
13:45your past with a fine -toothed comb.
13:47Like, what are you going to say about him?
13:48I mean, he's already, I just think it would be, he would be outstanding at
13:53it. You know, you'd have him for 30 years.
13:57He's run for president. He may be looking at it and saying, look, J .D.
14:00Vance is the guy in 28.
14:01It's going to be hard to be J .D.
14:03Marco Rubio is out there.
14:04He may look at that.
14:05Look, he's still relatively young, 46 or 47.
14:08I mean, you know, we elect presidents over 70, so 25 years from now.
14:12I mean, he's still got a long career.
14:13But I think he's a legal nerd, and I think he would be a phenomenal
14:17pick for the next 30 years to serve on the Supreme Court.
14:21And, look, the Supreme Court justice is the ultimate legacy that every president gets.
14:27But a president gets eight years.
14:29Again, I'm just saying, Ron DeSantis, somebody of his age, could be on the Supreme
14:33Court for 30 or even.
14:35Remember, John Paul Stevens stayed, sorry, Souter, I think, stayed on until he was 90,
14:41right? So, I mean, he could be on for 45 years.
14:45So, again, if he's healthy, it's an appointment that is, I think, the most important
14:52thing in many ways that presidents do.
14:55We were just talking about how, in a post -Roe world, the Supreme Court feels
14:59different. Democrats were saying forever that the world would end, didn't end.
15:04But, unfortunately, abortion didn't end either.
15:06It's still happening all across the country in states with very liberal abortion laws.
15:12So, babies are losing their lives at very similar levels to what was happening before
15:17Roe v. Wade was overturned.
15:19This is why I think it's so important to do what you can to act
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17:48T's and C's apply. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
17:51I was just talking to a really good friend of mine who lives in Washington,
17:56D .C. and he was saying that the city feels like a different city and
18:02Trump's initiative on crime there is not only making people safer, he says there's such
18:09a life and vitality in certain neighborhoods he hasn't seen in a long time.
18:13Real estate prices are going up and it's really been great for our nation's capital.
18:17Well, what happened? Oh, we all know.
18:20Let's talk to somebody who can speak to this, though, with particular insight and expertise.
18:24The director of the FBI, Cash Patel, is with us now.
18:27Director Patel, honored to have you with us again, sir.
18:30Thank you. Thanks so much for having me back on.
18:33Let's just talk about this violent crime crackdown nationwide, but give us some of the
18:39highlights of where this has had particular work.
18:41And then, Director, I want to ask you about what does it mean for the
18:44federal and the local department?
18:45I want you to take us into the mechanics of how this has worked a
18:49bit so we can understand it.
18:50But first, if you would, just where are we seeing huge results from federal law
18:55enforcement, FBI leading the charge, working to bring down violent crime rates?
18:59Here's the great news for America.
19:01Everywhere. Literally everywhere. Thanks to President Trump's resourcing and backing the blue in law enforcement
19:07and giving the American people the security blanket that they so well deserve, we have
19:13launched out on what you just announced, President Trump's task forces in Washington, D .C.
19:17and places like Memphis, where the violent crime rates have been dropping by 50 and
19:2160 percentage points across the board.
19:23Memphis was a per capita homicide capital of America.
19:26We chopped that down by 40 percent, thanks to President Trump's leadership and establishment of
19:31the task force. But you hit it right on its head.
19:33It's not just the FBI.
19:35The FBI is the lead law enforcement agency, but we're working with our state and
19:38local partners in every single jurisdiction that we have because President Trump has stressed interagency
19:44cooperation at the state and federal level.
19:46And when you let good cops be cops, when you remove the bureaucracy, and when
19:50you know that you're law enforcement personnel on the field, and when they know that
19:53they have the support of their leadership structure and their government and their president, they
19:57are going to go out there and do the work.
19:58And that's why the homicide rate dropped 20 points across the entire country.
20:03That's why we have 20 percent less opiate overdose deaths in America in one year
20:09alone. Those two would be monumental achievements, but President Trump and this FBI have done
20:14so much more. Washington, D .C.
20:16is a great example. You just mentioned it.
20:18I just looked at the current data.
20:20The murder rate's down 50 percent off last year, and last year was one of
20:23the lowest murder rates on record.
20:25I would imagine with America 250, that's a focus.
20:28If cities like Chicago actually got behind what we're seeing in Memphis and we're seeing
20:35in D .C., what do you think the crime, the murder rate, let's just focus
20:39on murder, how much murder, how many lives could be saved if you had real
20:44support from blue cities like we've seen in D .C.
20:48and Memphis? What kind of life -saving opportunity would be out there?
20:53Hundreds. Hundreds, and you know this as well as anybody, you cover it.
20:56Tragically, you see these gang shootings, and that's where the FBI's focus has been on,
21:00those localized street gangs. Yes, we're looking at the national security threats, the large foreign
21:05terrorist organizations, the narco -traffickers, the MS -13s of the world, but a lot of
21:09these offshoots and these localized street gangs we've done in places like Philadelphia where we
21:14literally eliminated an entire street gang in Weymouth, and we would do the same thing
21:18in Chicago if they let us in, but you highlighted it.
21:22President Trump has offered to go in, and they have an elected leadership there that
21:25is in favor of politics over protecting its people.
21:28I mean, Clay and Buck, you guys know this better than anyone.
21:31You see kids five years of age, seven years of age, get caught up in
21:35gang shootings and murdered, and you would think that the people of those towns want
21:40their city secure, and I think the people do.
21:43It's just their elected leadership is prioritizing politics over public safety, and to me, that's
21:47a... That's just a tragedy.
21:49We could save hundreds of lives in places like Chicago if they don't.
21:53Well, we totally agree, Director Patel.
21:55It's remarkable and also, unfortunately, really frustrating to see how clear the results are and
22:02yet the unwillingness to admit that this Trump initiative, which you are part of the
22:07tip of the spear on, and the FBI and the men and women of the
22:10FBI, they won't admit that this is working and saving lives.
22:13They'd rather things continue to be a problem in some of these cities because you're
22:17not getting that same level of cooperation.
22:20I want to ask you about the fraud stuff coming up in a second, so
22:22we definitely need to get to that.
22:23But first up, though, can you just talk us through a little bit, what does
22:26it mean, in Memphis now, what is different on the ground in terms of how
22:30law enforcement is working together?
22:32We invited the mayor of Memphis on, and he still has an open invite, to
22:35come talk to us about this and just to congratulate him on how well things
22:38are going in the city with this federal partnership.
22:41But what does it mean?
22:42Do you have FBI guys who are riding along with state troopers, or are they
22:46just coordinating back at headquarters?
22:48How does it look? It's a variety of things, but you have to attack the
22:51gang network, as I was mentioning earlier, and that's what we did in Memphis.
22:54But you also have to get state and local prosecutors willing to bring those tough
22:58street crimes in state and local court.
23:00And we were able to do that in Memphis.
23:02What you also have to do is expand your federal prosecutions.
23:05And thanks to the DOJ presence there, the FBI is leading the prosecutions of violent
23:09gang offenders, murderers, rapists, and drug dealers, and putting them in federal court every single
23:15chance we get. So you have to have a jurisdiction that's willing to let us
23:19in and not take over, but also have a jurisdiction that is a police force
23:24and a prosecution force willing to take that on.
23:27And that's what was congregated in Memphis, thanks to President Trump's leadership.
23:31You saw the direct result of how we reduced.
23:33People said, you can't save Memphis.
23:35The per capita rate for homicides is the highest in the country, and it's been
23:38like that for years. There's no way you can do that.
23:40We did it in six months.
23:41It shows you we can do it there.
23:43We can do it in Chicago.
23:44But more importantly for the folks around America that are listening to this, we're doing
23:47it in every single country.
23:49I mean, when you seize enough fentanyl to kill 178 million Americans, a 31 percent
23:53increase, that's just the FBI seizures under President Trump's leadership.
23:57Think about how many lives we've saved in towns across America, how many overdoses we've
24:01presented for tragedies like kids in high schools that we used to see around the
24:05country are diminishing greatly. Less seriously here, USA hockey.
24:11That was so awesome. And I can only imagine how cool it was to be
24:17there representing the United States government and be able to celebrate with those guys.
24:21Were you even – I know we know that there are a lot of truly
24:25insane, broken -brained Democrats. Were even though you surprised by how much they came after
24:32you for celebrating a gold medal win?
24:34And by the way, something that Jimmy Carter did, something that Walter Mondale did back
24:39when we beat – when we won the gold medal the last time, I mean,
24:43that can be kind of characterized how much they've lost their minds.
24:47I think – yeah, I guess it doesn't surprise me.
24:50What was important was we were there for the Milan Olympics.
24:52The FBI was leading the security for 250 ,000 Americans that went to Milan for
24:56the Winter Olympics. The FBI is responsible for the upcoming World Cup, where we have,
25:01what, 64 matches across the country and ultimately the 2020 Olympics.
25:05So we learned through every evolution.
25:07And thankfully, due to the FBI and President Trump and DHS, we haven't had any
25:11significant security incidences at F1, at the Super Bowl, at the Club World Cup.
25:17And that's what we're doing.
25:18And I was fortunate enough to be there with the men's hockey team and my
25:22friends on the team and celebrating something that hadn't been done in, what, 50 –
25:27my Matt's terrible – 50 -some years.
25:29So I was glad to be celebrating for America at a historic time, and I
25:34was glad that we were able to provide the security necessary to make sure our
25:38athletes and our American citizens that attended the Olympics could go there safely and return
25:43safely. And that's our focus, and that's always going to be our focus.
25:46I'll always ignore the noise.
25:47We're speaking to FBI Director Patel.
25:49And just for the record, Mr.
25:51Director, I, too, love patriotism, freedom, and Americans kicking ass at sports.
25:57But now I'm going to – I've got to take us in another, you know,
26:00womp womp. I'm taking us in another direction here for a second, if I could,
26:03because we have a lot of people writing in, and they're asking us this question,
26:06and we keep saying, well, this is – you know, we've got to see how
26:10the investigations go. There's a process, but there is a really – and I'm sure
26:15it's high up on your radar – a sense that there is systematic and just
26:20massive fraud going on, defrauding the federal government, whether it's Medicare, Medicaid, all kinds of
26:29different payments under those systems, just lots of things in the fraud category at enormous
26:34scale, hundreds of millions, billions of dollars.
26:37Does the FBI – first of all, is that a priority right now?
26:41Do you have the resources to be able to deal with this?
26:44And are full investigations underway of places like what happened in Minneapolis and people talking
26:50about that? Now California is up on people's radar.
26:52Even Gavin Newsom started to say, yeah, there's a lot of fraud.
26:55Talk to us about that.
26:56Yeah, fraud has always been a priority.
26:58These complex investigations are what the FBI does best, and thanks to the vice president,
27:02his leadership, and DOJ on the task force, we're able to get after it with
27:05even more resources than we've ever had.
27:07But we've been on it since we've gotten in the seat.
27:09Last summer alone, I was in Minneapolis before everything went down, and we took down
27:13a $250 million – fraud for a program called Feeding Our Futures, where people defrauded
27:19a program in the state of Minneapolis that was used to feed poor children.
27:23We did that last summer.
27:24We connected it to the statewide fraud investigations that we have going there, and in
27:29places like California, we just had a massive takedown just last week with our U
27:33.S. Attorney's Office there, I think on a $55 million fraud program.
27:37And so we're not stopping, but mapping out these networks under our NSPM 7 initiative,
27:41we're taking entire data sets from around the country and the world and say, who's
27:46funding these things? Then more importantly, who is taking the taxpayer dollar and enriching themselves
27:53unlawfully? And everyone that is doing that is a target and is going to continue
27:58to be a target under the Vice President's Task Force.
28:02So you are looking into this, there's a task force and people, because right now,
28:06Mr. Director, there's a sense that people are just getting away with this all over
28:11the place, that there's so much fraud that it's, like, impossible to track it all
28:16down. It sounds like you're saying, no, the Bureau was on it, the resources are
28:19there, because if we're a country where people can steal millions, billions, whatever it is,
28:26when you count this up, there's a sense it's tax day to day.
28:29And it's, you know, a lot of people say, okay, so I have to pay
28:32my federal income tax, I have to do this the right way.
28:35But a lot of people can get away with just cheating the system to the
28:38tune of huge sums of money.
28:40So that is not going to be allowed on President Trump's watch.
28:43It hasn't been allowed. And I'll tell you what happened.
28:46And you know this, when you let rampant fraud in the prior administration explode, we
28:51are the ones left cleaning it up.
28:52And we are doing that, just like we did with the violent crime initiatives across
28:55the country that dropped the murder rate, and so many other ways in which we're
28:59protecting violent crimes, our violent crimes against children.
29:02We're doing the same thing on the fraud front.
29:04We're cleaning up the past failures of the prior administration.
29:07And we're not going to stop until we have every fraud investigation complete.
29:10I have hundreds of fraud investigations, large scale fraud investigations open around the country that
29:15we've been working for 14 straight months.
29:17And people are, I'm glad are paying attention to our publicized wins.
29:21And we got a lot more coming.
29:23Cash, I'm going to go back completely unserious, because you probably get asked all sorts
29:28of serious questions. But Pete, but Buck and I were just talking off air.
29:33Pete Hegseth, you probably saw this.
29:35Posted a video of him bench pressing 315 pounds.
29:39That is a ridiculous amount to be able to bench press.
29:43But I know that you are a pretty serious workout guy, too.
29:48What's your bench? And has it gone up since you became FBI director?
29:52I'll just say, I think Pete's got me on that one.
29:55But I did his push up and pull up challenge.
29:58You know, it's, it's, it's, I think it's great.
30:00It's also inspiring to our workforces.
30:02Yeah, prioritize fitness. Because look, we are the premier law enforcement agency in the world.
30:06And I'm not asking you to be a Navy SEAL.
30:08But if I'm asking to take down bad guys in the streets and chase them
30:11down, then you got to be able to do a couple of push ups and
30:13pull ups. And so our standards are going to meet the requirements of the dynamic
30:16threat landscape. And leaders like Pete and myself, we're willing to go out there and
30:20maintain our fitness levels to what we can.
30:22We're just asking our workforce to do the same.
30:25And I think it's inspiring.
30:26And if folks out there want to make fun of us, what would you rather
30:29have Pete, myself and the other leaders doing what we're doing or 350 pound overweight
30:33people leaving the Department of War and the Federal Bureau of Investigation?
30:37It's an example we set leadership out front, and we're going to continue to do
30:40it. Will you be at the UFC fight, by the way?
30:43Are you looking forward to that?
30:44You know, I'm a big MMA guy.
30:46And you know, Dana's a dear friend.
30:47And as you know, the FBI for the first time did its historic partnership with
30:52the UFC at Quantico. We had 10 world champions come in and trained 350 agents
30:56for a weekend. So it's a big part of what we're doing here to provide
31:00the resources and training for our agents.
31:02And so I'm looking forward to that fight at the White House.
31:06FBI Director Cash Patel. Good work, sir.
31:09Thank you for making the streets safer.
31:11Great to talk to you.
31:12And we'll have you back soon.
31:13Yep. Thanks so much for having me.
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32:35you get your podcasts. Welcome back in.
32:38We will update you a bit on the White House press conference that is currently.
32:43We will update you a bit on the White House press conference.
32:43Going on, Caroline Levitt fielding questions right now from Peter Doocy of Fox News.
32:48We will give you the latest there.
32:50But, Buck, it is tax day, and I flagged this as I was doing my
32:57research because we hear so much about how often we are living in a completely
33:04unfair tax system. And so these numbers are a couple of years old, and I'm
33:11sure that they have continued to be addressed and to continue to move so that
33:18the so -called rich are paying even more and more.
33:22But let's start here because I do think it's worth mentioning every single tax day
33:27that arises. Roughly half of all Americans pay no federal income taxes.
33:32So if you are paying tax at all today or you have paid tax at
33:39all during the past year, federal income tax, then you are paying more than half
33:45of Americans are. And, in fact, as we all know, a lot of people get
33:50refunds that they didn't ever pay in the first place.
33:53So you're getting paid my dollars, your dollars, going to people that did not actually
33:59pay any taxes. Here are some stats for you.
34:02The top 1 % pays 40, and this is rough.
34:06It's actually increased, I think, since then, pays 40 % of all income taxes.
34:13The top 10 % pays 72 % of all income taxes.
34:19And the top 25 % pays 87 % of all income taxes.
34:27So in the United States, if you are in the 75 % of earners below
34:36the top 25%, you only pay 13 % of all federal income tax dollars.
34:43Does that seem like money well spent?
34:45And the older I get, the more frustrated and angry I am about the money
34:53that I pay that gets completely wasted, and the fact that, like many of you
34:58out there, I work two of the five days every week directly to pay the
35:05federal government. So every time you hear me on Monday and Tuesday on this radio
35:09program, I am not actually making any money at all.
35:13It's going straight to the government.
35:15It's kind of crazy to think about it, and the same is true for many
35:17of you out there. Now, Buck, that is never enough, though.
35:22So New York City, which I believe we said the other day, has a bigger
35:28government than the state of Florida.
35:31New York State is about twice as big as the state of Florida's government.
35:35But I believe New York City, by itself, has a bigger budget than the entire
35:40state of Florida. Yet it is not enough, and Kathy Hochul and Momdani are now
35:47saying, hey, if you have a second home in New York City that costs $5
35:53million or more, they're going to ratchet up the tax rates on you to a
35:57significant degree, and you know what's going to happen, Buck?
36:00Phones are ringing in Florida.
36:02Phones are ringing in Texas.
36:04Phones are ringing in Tennessee because you're paying 40%, and then you add another 13
36:09% over half of your money before you even pay property taxes if you live
36:13in New York City is going to the city, the state, and the federal government.
36:18The good news, though, Clay, is sure, the taxes are high.
36:22Sure, people are fleeing New York and California in high -tax jurisdictions continuously now.
36:29But the good news is that Momdani is focusing on the really important stuff, like
36:33building a government -run grocery store that will cost $30 million and take three years.
36:40Here it is, Momdani making his case yesterday in Harlem in Manhattan.
36:46This is cut 11. Let's hear from Kwame Momdani, the governor of New York.
36:52I'm sorry, the mayor of New York City.
36:55Here he is. Play 11.
36:55New York City, it is time for a grand experiment once again.
36:59Just as LaGuardia used government to respond to the challenges of the Great Depression, we
37:04will use government to respond to rising prices and unaffordable groceries.
37:09The city will subsidize a core set of staples.
37:12A private operator will run the store, but they answer to the standards that the
37:16city will set. These standards include requirements that at our stores, bread will be cheaper.
37:22Eggs will be cheaper. Grocery shopping will no longer be an unsolvable equation, and workers
37:29will be treated with dignity.
37:32Okay, so unless he's going to subsidize this directly with tax dollars, which is just
37:39a welfare program then, right?
37:42It's just a version of food stamps except you've got to go get the food.
37:45You don't just get the money to get the food.
37:48This has a 0 % chance of working the way that is planned.
37:52I think he even maybe at some level knows that, and this is why the
37:56three -year timeline, when he's up for mayor, I might add, for reelect, three -year
38:01timeline is no problem for him because he gets to keep talking about how great
38:04this is going to be until people realize this is going to be like a
38:08Soviet Union grocery store with reelect.
38:10Really good prices on bread that isn't even on the shelves.
38:15How do you think he's really this dumb?
38:19Can we play that cut again?
38:21Does he really think that grocery stores are gouging people and that running a grocery
38:32store is the greatest business that's ever existed in the history of mankind?
38:37I mean, play that cut again if we could because anyone who believes any of
38:42this is a complete moron.
38:45Momdani's not a complete moron.
38:47And this makes it worse because he knows he's lying.
38:52Surely he understands what you said earlier in the program and all of you know
38:56the profit margin on groceries is among the lowest profit margins of any capital -intensive
39:04business on the planet. One of the things I like about AI, just like I
39:09like X because it shows more of reality now to people, like you see crimes
39:14that are happening and how awful they are and who's committing them and the media
39:18doesn't get to just say, oh, we have no idea.
39:20You can just do really quick data analysis.
39:22Now, you don't have to.
39:23It's way better than Google at this.
39:24On Grok, Clay, it's the Food Industry Association says that the average profit in 2024
39:33for a grocery store average 1 .7 % per item, 1 .7%.
39:41If someone thinks that's price gouging, they're an imbecile.
39:46They're an ignoramus. They know nothing, but an ignoramus runs the city of New York
39:52right now, unfortunately. I mean, this is just such basic research.
39:56Play this again because I understand people get frustrated, and we've talked about this with
40:01gas prices too. The gas stations are not gouging you.
40:05They're not making very much money on gas.
40:07Grocery stores is one of the worst, most difficult businesses that you could possibly get
40:13into because it is so incredibly difficult to actually make a consistent profit.
40:18But listen to Mom Donnie.
40:20He's going to, I mean, this is just, of all the arguments you could make,
40:24I'm going to run a grocery store, and it's going to be way cheaper, and
40:29you're going to get a way higher quality product is one of the dumbest arguments
40:33I've ever heard a Democrat make.
40:34It's right up there with defund the police.
40:36But listen to this again.
40:37It's just not true. Buck just gave you the data.
40:40New York City, it is time for a grand experiment once again.
40:43Just as LaGuardia used government to respond to the challenges of the Great Depression, we
40:48will use government to respond to rising prices and unaffordable groceries.
40:53The city will subsidize a core set of staples.
40:57A private operator will run the store, but they answer to the standards that the
41:01city will set. These standards include requirements that at our stores, bread will be cheaper,
41:07eggs will be cheaper, grocery shopping will no longer be an unsolvable equation.
41:12And workers will be treated with dignity.
41:16Okay, so he's saying they're going to subsidize the price of groceries, Buck, which means
41:21taxpayers are going to give money to buy groceries for other people, which means everybody
41:29has less. It's less efficiency.
41:31I would actually just prefer that they be honest about this and increase the EBT
41:37benefits or whatever, the food stamps benefits.
41:39So these people, we all know exactly what's going on.
41:42But he said only for staples.
41:44Now this brings up some really interesting.
41:46So he's like, milk and bread.
41:49No one is poor. And I mean no one because of the price of milk
41:53and bread. There are other things where red meat has gotten a lot higher.
41:57It's fine. But milk and bread is not actually where people are.
42:00The budget is finally just too constrained.
42:02That's not what's breaking the proverbial camel's back.
42:06There are other things and other budgetary matters that are far.
42:09By the way, that cost of health care, the cost of housing, those are things,
42:12if you're in New York City, that are crushing people.
42:15The expectation that people are going to spend 40, 50, 60 % on rent.
42:21And you might say, oh, well, Mom Donnie wants to help with that too.
42:23He's going to make that worse.
42:25You want to deal with that issue?
42:27Then you have to deal with all the regulations in New York City that artificially
42:30constrain supply. But they don't believe in supply and demand in Commie Mom Donnieville.
42:36They think they can just wave a magic Marxist wand.
42:40Clay, on this issue of the milk and bread also, New York City was where
42:44they ran an experiment some years ago about food deserts.
42:49And the whole premise was, I've talked about this in the show before, so I'll
42:52give you the short version, but it's really interesting.
42:54And the New York Times was who did a story on it.
42:56It was under the Obama administration, no surprise.
42:59Federal program, hey, you know why they aren't eating enough arugula in low -income, high
43:04-crime areas? You know why they aren't really digging into the quinoa?
43:09It's because we haven't subsidized it.
43:13If we only made it cheaper, the arugula and the quinoa and the free -range,
43:19you know, ducca -la -range, it would be flying off the shelves.
43:24You know what they found when they did this project, this pilot project of the
43:28so -called food desert, by giving people artificially cheap access to radishes?
43:32And by the way, I'm being serious.
43:33Those were the kinds of foods that didn't change buying behavior at all.
43:37You know what people wanted to buy?
43:38You know what people wanted to buy?
43:38particularly with food stamps soda chips and candy yep soda chips and candy biggest items
43:48ever go to a grocery store in a low -income area i've been to them
43:51because of my time at the mypd long story we talk about another time i've
43:54been to many of them actually and clay that's what they're mostly selling at the
43:58front it's not because people don't have access to cheap produce they don't want it
44:03so they're also going to call up against this issue they're going to make milk
44:07and bread really cheap and you know what's going to happen they're going to run
44:10out of the milk and the bread their milk and the bread is not going
44:12to be well stocked it's not going to be what people want and they're going
44:15to find out that's actually not what people are buying anyway also of all the
44:20places to deliver food to the cost to get product into new york city has
44:28to be off the charts yeah so even if you were going to run a
44:32government -funded uh grocery store i think it would fail everywhere kansas city did this
44:37recently and they had to shut down because they couldn't keep produce on the shelves
44:41and they couldn't keep a product and nobody wanted it getting product to new york
44:46city to a grocery store is going to be virtually impossible and this is going
44:51to be an unmitigated disaster just put a pin in this it's going to fail
44:54epically um i doubt whether it will ever even really start to run and it's
45:00going to cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars which is why they've got to
45:05raise more money because they they keep spending and wasting what they get public's is
45:09a very well -known florida based grocery chain um i go to public's all the
45:14time they the annual net sales is something like 40 million dollars billion public data
45:21million sorry per per store oh 40 million in sales per store now this is
45:29where you start to see okay there is a profit motive here meaning if you
45:34if you sell 40 million dollars of groceries at a one or two percent profit
45:39margin you're making money and that's when you've covered everything that's with taxes and everything
45:43else but you know you're doing fine if you do a hundred of these now
45:47you've really got a big business right the point is it's all about scale yes
45:51they're going to do at this grocery store that new york city is going to
45:55run which i'm telling you is going to be the sad give it six months
45:57after opening it'll be the saddest most pathetic grocery store you've ever seen they don't
46:02understand the way that scale actually works so they think oh well we're going to
46:08sell three million dollars of groceries just 30 percent cheaper than everybody else in the
46:12city and it's going to be a disaster and the whole thing is going to
46:15collapse and i think mom donnie knows it clay but he's doing it anyway because
46:20it's about the story it's not about the groceries it's not about helping people with
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48:34now we are joined by congresswoman out of the great state of new york elise
48:39stefanik she also has a new book out poisoned ivies the inside account of the
48:45academic and moral rock at america's elite universities just came out yesterday congresswoman great to
48:51have you thanks for being here great to be with you guys i've been looking
48:55forward to this thank you yeah you know i am a new yorker i think
49:00forever because i lived there for so many years born and raised and so i'm
49:04always caught between love love the empire state and particularly new york city and also
49:09watching from afar as it's turned into such a mess so with that in mind
49:14we're going to get to your book in just a second but we were just
49:16talking about mom donnie's grocery store in new york and how this is just emblematic
49:23of another bad idea that's going to cost money not help people who could use
49:28some financial relief what does he really not know that this is going to be
49:32a mess how is kathy hochel so incompetent i have a lot of questions congresswoman
49:37we have a lot to cover because the rot is so deep in new york
49:41when you have a state that single -party democrat rule and the socialist party has
49:45hijacked today's democrat party in new york and frankly nationwide today on tax day as
49:52americans are filing their taxes and particularly in a high tax state like new york
49:56what does kathy hochel do she breaks her promise and says oops she's going to
50:00raise taxes higher further forcing people to run away from new york further forcing businesses
50:05out and this is because she is beholden to the socialist on top of that
50:10you have mom donnie who is celebrating his first 100 days where he couldn't shovel
50:15snow off the streets where he has been embroiled in huge political fights with the
50:20new york city council which is controlled by democrats and he put forth this grocery
50:25store plan that's going to cost the taxpayers 30 million dollars but the kicker is
50:29they're not going to open till 2029 which highlights this socialist insanity you know if
50:37we were to rely on government grocery stores there would be hunger lines out the
50:41door it is a total abuse of taxpayer dollars and frankly thank goodness for the
50:46free market in new york state that we have had that built up the city
50:50of new york that is crumbling under failed socialist leadership we're talking to elise stefanik
50:55uh you certainly saw and heard when kathy hochel told former new yorkers like buck
51:01just moved to florida then the tax return so i did i could i couldn't
51:05disobey kathy i said fine kathy i'm out so the tax returns have collapsed as
51:11many people buck sean hannity even just in this radio world uh have decided to
51:16go from new york to florida and now she's begging floridians to come back to
51:22new york meanwhile they're talking about added taxes on second homes uh i believe it
51:27is the correct that the budget for the city of new york is bigger than
51:31the entire budget for all of florida how much of this is just complete mismanagement
51:36and how much is pushing out the people who actually pay the taxes blowing up
51:41in the face of democrats like mom donnie and it is total mismanagement and this
51:46is what happens when you have single party rule democrats in the state of new
51:50york control the state senate control the assembly control the governor's office as well as
51:55new york city and it's not just a democrat in new york city it's a
51:58socialist as we know in mom donnie and you know kathy hochel and other democrats
52:03have liked to say oh it's because of the weather that's nonsense it's because of
52:07the policies and she encouraged people to leave this great state of new york and
52:12of course now they're begging them to come back but newsflash they're not coming back
52:15it's going to be higher and higher taxes under single party democrat rule i've been
52:21proud to be the leading republican fighting against this and frankly in this tax bill
52:25and people can quibble about this but i represent new yorkers i raised that state
52:29and local tax deduction which for a high tax state like new york i needed
52:33to deliver a tax cut for my constituents and i did and that's something that
52:37the democrats never will even consider they're never going to consider cutting taxes and if
52:41you look at florida a higher population the entire the budget of medicaid in new
52:47york state is more than the entire budget of florida it is totally mismanaged and
52:52a disaster it's unbelievable all right we're talking to congresswoman elise stefanik from new york
52:57i still love you new york but you have to stop being insane but there
53:00are many new yorkers who feel the same way congresswoman who are listening right now
53:04and they're sticking it out so i i respect that uh you're one of them
53:07you still have to live there too so you got a book though let's talk
53:11about your book for a second poisoned ivies the inside account of the academic and
53:15moral rot at america's elite universities poisoned ivies for short you guys can get on
53:19an amazon uh yeah i believe my brother went to an ivy league school um
53:22i went to work for glenn beck instead of going to an ivy league school
53:26for an mba there's been a lot of lunacy on display what are you getting
53:30into here in the book is this mostly about uh all the hamas lovers running
53:34wild in the uh in the quadrangles what's happening here so as you remember yes
53:40the book is poisoned ivies this was about the university president's hearing where you had
53:44the presidents of penn mit and harvard it became the most viewed testimony in the
53:48history of congress more than watergate more than any other congressional hearing and that was
53:52when i asked them a direct question does calling for the genocide of jews violate
53:56your university's code of conduct and they essentially equivocated and said it depends on the
54:00context this was of course after the hamas attacks against israel on october 7th as
54:06we saw universities in the u .s particularly the ivy league be engulfed with anti
54:10-semitism but it's not just about anti -semitism this is a much broader moral and
54:15academic rot if you look at the radical professors at these schools if you look
54:20at the foreign dollars flowing to these schools the percentage of increases of foreign students
54:26for example at columbia forty percent of students at columbia are foreign students and that
54:31includes literally students literally students literally students literally students literally students students Thank you.
54:34who publicly chant, not just death to Israel, but death to America, and are affiliated
54:39with Hamas terrorist organizations. So the book goes into all of that.
54:43It's a behind -the -scenes look at the hearing.
54:45It's already the number one bestseller in nonfiction on Amazon nationwide because people care about
54:50education, because it's about educating our next generation of leaders.
54:54And I'll tell you, the next generation of leaders aren't going to come from these
54:57schools. It not only highlights the bad actors, but the good actors.
55:00And I know one of you will be very proud that Vanderbilt is highlighted as
55:05a positive example, and people are voting with their feet in their wallets.
55:08I was just going to say this because I think it's such an interesting example.
55:15I went to Vanderbilt and met my wife there.
55:19We love the school. But they had a protest after October 7th.
55:24Kids on campus tried to take over the main Kirkland Hall there.
55:28The Chancellor, Daniel Diermeier, walked in.
55:31He said, uh -uh. He called in the Metro Nashville police.
55:34They arrested all of the protesters immediately, and they kicked the students out of school,
55:40Buck. They didn't allow them to finish the semester.
55:43They were done. And something interesting has happened.
55:46I was talking with some of the top Vanderbilt administrators recently.
55:49I don't know if you know this, Elise, but they said that their yield, that
55:57is the kids that get invited to come to Vanderbilt, get admitted, get an admissions
56:03offer, they have a higher yield now than Columbia University.
56:08So Vanderbilt, I'm not an Ivy League.
56:10Yeah, they now get, so if you have a kid and they get admitted to
56:13Columbia and you have a kid that gets admitted to Vanderbilt, the kid that gets
56:17admitted to Vanderbilt is more likely to go to Vanderbilt than the kid that gets
56:21admitted to Columbia. And I asked, I said, how's this happening?
56:24They said, our applications from New York City, L .A., and Chicago skyrocketed after all
56:32of the protests on the Ivy League campuses.
56:34So there are real significant consequences that you are writing about that are potentially remaking
56:41where the most elite, talented kids in the country decide to go to school.
56:46Absolutely. And to add further information on that, it is now more competitive to get
56:53into Vanderbilt than some of the Ivy League schools.
56:55So not only are they highlighting the matriculation rates, so those that accept if they
56:59get into both schools, but the applications, as you point out, have skyrocketed.
57:04People are voting with their feats in their wallets.
57:07Parents are rightly scrutinizing it because when you think about it, and I'm a parent,
57:10my son is only four, but we think a lot about his educational journey in
57:14the years to come. I don't want him to go to college for political indoctrination.
57:19It should be about academic excellence and connections to good -paying jobs after they graduate.
57:25So the book not only talks about the institutions that are rotten, but it highlights
57:30places like Vanderbilt. One other example is Dartmouth, the sole Ivy that actually enforced the
57:36rules, very similar to how Vanderbilt did.
57:38I highlight innovative schools like University at Austin, but it's a broader, really, indictment of
57:45these, what used to be elite schools.
57:46And what's really sad about it, I myself graduated from one of them.
57:49A lot of those schools, the Harvards, the Penns, the Columbias, predated the founding of
57:54our country, are older than 250 years, and were part of the fabric initially of
57:58our American Revolutionary War principles.
58:01It has fallen so far to the radical left, and it's deeply out of touch
58:06with everyday Americans. You mentioned your son.
58:09I actually met him in the elevator along with your husband at the Republican National
58:14Convention a couple of years ago.
58:16So hello to your husband.
58:17I'm presuming your son's not a listener yet, but your husband said he was.
58:21But you mentioned something there that I thought was super interesting about your own kid.
58:27A lot of times people would aspire, when I was a kid, when Buck was
58:30a kid, hey, you can go to Harvard one day if you just work really
58:33hard. And that was an aspiration in the 80s and 90s for a lot of
58:38people. Is that changing in your mind?
58:40And how do they fix it if it is not the same kind?
58:44I think there's a lot of people out there that listen to us that would
58:46have said, hey, in 1988, my kid went to Harvard.
58:49It would have been the greatest thing I could have ever thought of.
58:51By 2026, I don't know that the same desire is there.
58:55How do they fix it?
58:57Well, it's a good question.
58:58I mean, my family, it was an extraordinary achievement.
59:02I'm the first member of my immediate family to have the opportunity to graduate from
59:05college. I was very proud to get admitted to Harvard.
59:08I had a great experience there 20 years ago.
59:10Of course, it was left leaning, but it was not like it is today in
59:13terms of the absolute bending of the knee to this anti -Americanism and just the
59:18failure of strong leadership and a lack of focus on academic excellence.
59:22These schools are not going to fix themselves.
59:24What I realized after the hearing was, despite all of the public pressure, despite donors
59:29withholding their funds, despite these shifts in matriculation rates, they still don't get it.
59:34They are digging deeper and deeper.
59:35That's why the executive actions by the Trump administration that we have worked very closely
59:39with and the legislative actions and the leverage of taxpayer dollars, that's the only way
59:44to make them listen, coupled with the DOJ lawsuits.
59:48Those are all incredibly important.
59:49It needs to be multifaceted because they are not going to fix themselves.
59:53The schools that are smart are innovating and outgrowing like Vanderbilt and others who are
59:59understanding this is a huge opportunity and an earth.
1:00:01quake broadly in higher education just want to say congresswoman you said your your boy
1:00:06i believe is four mine is one and i've already enrolled him for florida prepay
1:00:10down here so i'm already i'm already taking the steps because you have to get
1:00:15into the university of florida too by the way like state schools in the south
1:00:20yeah at least are skyrocketing since what happened i know uf which my my wife
1:00:25is a is an alumni alumna of uh university of florida i think got over
1:00:29a hundred thousand applications this year congresswoman which is and and the essay and uf
1:00:33is highlighted oh you did it is highlighted as one of the positives again most
1:00:40of the chapters are the deep dives on the rotten ivies but i thought it
1:00:44was important to end on a positive note at the schools that are doing it
1:00:47right and university florida is one of them and you know particularly at the time
1:00:52when you saw these pro hamas encampments ben sass was head of the university of
1:00:56florida system and he took very similar to dear meyer at vanderbilt they enforced the
1:01:02rules immediately and they correctly focused on the academics instead of allowing this political indoctrination
1:01:08and frankly it was criminal activity that's why this doj lawsuit is so important to
1:01:15hold these schools accountable when they are not protecting civil rights of american jewish students
1:01:20and i myself am not jewish i am catholic i just it was so unrecognizable
1:01:25to me and we had heard from so many students these horrific stories that it
1:01:29was important to lead in congress and i think we did that in the hearing
1:01:34heard around the world well congressman we'll have to have you back because you can
1:01:37answer the question brown university is it really a school or is it just a
1:01:42commune with drum circles but that will be for next time the book is poisoned
1:01:46ivies go get your copy today it's number one on amazon doing phenomenally congressman thank
1:01:52you for all your work congrats on the book and we'll talk to you soon
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