Hour 3 - Steve Hilton Calls for Regime Change in CA
4/13/202637 mincomplete
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0:02Guaranteed human. Third hour of Play and Buck kicks off with the one and only
0:08Steve Hilton, everybody. He is running as a Republican for governor of the beautiful state,
0:15the poorly governed but beautiful state of California.
0:18And Steve Hilton is with us now.
0:21Steve, busy times, my friend.
0:23Thank you for coming here.
0:25We have been early Steve Hilton adopters, you could say, in this whole process.
0:30Been having you on now from the very beginning to get the word out to
0:33our very large audience of Californians who are behind liberal lines there and listening in
0:39to what's going on here on Clay and Buck.
0:41Let's start with, we've got to just start with this, the Swalwell situation.
0:45Was this a surprise to you when it hit, and why do you think it
0:50hit now? Yeah, thanks, guys.
0:53I mean, the timing was definitely a surprise, but the fact of it was not
0:57at all a surprise. This has been an open secret for as long as, certainly
1:02for me, I've known about this, people talk about it, including Democrats in Sacramento, for
1:08as long as he's been in the race.
1:09Probably longer. It's an open secret on Capitol Hill, certainly in Sacramento.
1:13And it just shows you the fact that despite that, he got the endorsement of
1:17the big union, the teacher unions, the SEIU, Adam Schiff, all these Nancy Pelosi acolytes.
1:23It just shows you how corrupt, cynical, and arrogant these people are, these career politicians
1:28who just think they can get away with anything.
1:30It doesn't matter what they say or do.
1:32There'll be no consequences. It's the kind of arrogance you get from 16 years of
1:36one -party rule in California, honestly.
1:38All they care about is their power.
1:40Just think about all their endless lectures on, you know, women's rights, the war, gender
1:45equality, me too, blah, blah, blah.
1:47They don't believe any of it.
1:49It's all about their power.
1:51The machine was moving behind Swalwell, actually.
1:54Everyone expected him to get the machine's endorsement, even with all this going on.
2:00Finally, it came out. I didn't expect it, but it's very good news because it
2:04means that when it kind of clarifies the situation somewhat.
2:09And the thing that it really shows is that we are so desperately in need
2:12of change in California. There's this sort of collapsing of the California Democrats into chaos
2:18and sleaze and scandal. Just another really powerful indication of why we so desperately need
2:25change. Why did it happen now?
2:27Buck and I have been discussing, debating, contemplating why at this point he was the
2:33leader. Do you think there was a fear that he was going to be the
2:37nominee and that it might come out after he was one of the two finalists?
2:41Do you think this was Katie Porter?
2:44Do you think it was Tom Steyer?
2:46Where did this come from now?
2:48As you said, the rumors have been out there for a long time about him.
2:51He even addressed them in some of his endorsement interviews, reports are.
2:55Why now? So I don't know.
2:58But what I'm hearing very strongly, including from people I know on the Democrat side
3:04and from reporters following the race, is that it's Tom Steyer.
3:07That's what people are saying.
3:09Now, just to be clear, I have no evidence for that.
3:12But that is what everybody is saying, that it's Tom Steyer who's got unlimited money.
3:17You know, he's this billionaire climate fanatic, as we know.
3:21He's already spent over $100 million on his race just in the last few months
3:26with these endless ads that are driving everyone crazy.
3:29In California, you know, it's lifted him up from 2 % or 3 % to
3:3310 % or 11%, so it's kind of working for him in a pathetic sort
3:37of way, you could say.
3:38And he's spending money on this kind of thing as well.
3:40Katie Porter, by the way, blames Tom Steyer for the leaking of all those videos
3:45of her berating her staff and so on.
3:48She thinks that's Tom Steyer, and she thinks there's more of that to come.
3:52And so, I don't know, I'm just reporting what I hear.
3:56This is remarkable stuff, and now we see what a total mess, whether we're not
4:02surprised at all that the Democrats have been willing, the Democrat media, I should say,
4:06well, all of it together, the whole apparatus, to keep this stuff under wraps.
4:10As you said, it has been known that he's sketchy for a long time.
4:13I remember doing Tucker's show on Fox years ago, and Tucker just couldn't stop laughing
4:18talking about the fang -fang thing, so I mean, there's been a lot of smoke
4:22before this fire came out.
4:24A lot of people very much dialed in on Swalwell being a sketchy fellow.
4:31In terms of the other, so you think it's Steyer, because again, the timing of
4:36this, why not keep him off the ballot entirely?
4:38At some level, incompetence here among Democrats, I think, is something we shouldn't keep off
4:43the table, right? Meaning that they just, this happened, they weren't paying close enough attention,
4:47and then it came up later on.
4:48But what does this do?
4:50Explain now the rest of the field.
4:52So Swalwell is out. Can you take us through the reordering, I believe you're at
4:57the top of this whole thing, the reordering of the candidates and how you think
5:00this shifts the race? Yeah, so remember, we got this top two system, which is
5:05ridiculous. The top two candidates go through regardless of party.
5:09For most of this year, the top two candidates have been me and the other
5:14Republican. And I've been leading and my lead has been growing, but it's pretty much
5:20been the top two. A couple of times more recently, Swalwell's been in the top
5:23two. A lot of Republicans.
5:24A lot of Republicans. have therefore been saying oh this is great we'll have two
5:28republicans in the top two and that means we're guaranteed a change in california i've
5:33always said that that's a fantasy that the democrat machine is not just going to
5:37hand over california they'll spend whatever it takes to make sure that there's a democrat
5:42in the top two the unions will they've got tens of millions of dollars or
5:45stire so i always said the more important thing is to make sure there's a
5:50republican in the top two by ensuring that we don't split the vote and make
5:54sure that there's one strong leading candidate now for most of this year i've been
5:57leading not by much but you know two three points ahead that lead has been
6:02growing in the last couple of weeks so for example there were two polls last
6:07week uh one had me 19 percent everyone else 13 and below another one ironically
6:13from tom's from eric swalwell's backers had me at 22 percent swalwell at 18 everyone
6:19else 12 13 so the lead and that those polls were taken before the big
6:23news last sunday on easter sunday that president trump had endorsed me in the governor's
6:29race that's a huge moment and so we can expect my lead to grow um
6:34and and and a consolidation to happen on our side on the republican side that's
6:39very important because what you might also see is the swalwell support let's call it
6:44i don't know 15 16 percent split evenly it's not obvious to me where that
6:49would go um either tom styer or katie porter i don't know maybe some of
6:53the other lower polling candidates but in other words styer and porter you would expect
6:58to move up a bit and that's why it's very important we make sure that
7:02we have one republican um and get behind me that's been my message for weeks
7:08and that's even more important now as you're going to get a consolidation on the
7:11democrat side my expectation right now is as we move towards election day remember ballots
7:17go out in three weeks in california um you're going to see a kind of
7:21top three emerging which is myself tom styer and katie porter and the most important
7:27thing is we don't let that top three become a democrat top two we're talking
7:32to steve hilton running for governor of california ballots go out as you just heard
7:37from him in uh just a few weeks and the actual primary is on june
7:423rd um you're campaigning all over california we taught we not only have talked about
7:48eric swalwell but the situation in iran um there are more uh expats from uh
7:54with iranian backgrounds in the la area probably than anywhere else in the country i'm
7:59curious what are you hearing about iran in california when you're out on the campaign
8:04trail it's a hugely energizing factor i mean there's there's you know i don't know
8:10the exact number but like hundreds of thousands is over a million and across the
8:13state half a million la is the largest city outside uh iran of rain is
8:18it's a really really big community here very powerful very important voice in in our
8:23state and in politics all now 100 pretty much lined up behind president trump appreciative
8:29of what he's done um and i see it all over i was uh actually
8:33last last east last sunday um before the president's endorsement i was at a major
8:38iranian event for the end of new year naruz um in in the bay area
8:43uh fantastic reception there um where i made the point that you know i'm not
8:48in i don't know what's going to happen in iran but we we are certainly
8:52fighting for regime change here in california making that connection and it's really powerful and
8:57we've got two major events with the iranian community in la just coming up in
9:01the next couple of weeks it's a very very big part of the story what
9:05are the dominoes politically speaking we're speaking to steve hilton everybody uh he's running for
9:11governor of california republicans in california now is your chance to step up and and
9:16try to try to change things he says regime change in california which is a
9:20very good way to put it what are the dominoes steve that have to fall
9:23in your favor for this to go from you at the top of the pack
9:27to you winning the governor's mansion i mean you know is it some concession from
9:32the police union is it independent voters in the california interior i mean just take
9:38us through a little bit of what has to happen for you to actually win
9:41this thing the top of that list is a really strong republican turnout because actually
9:47if you look at the numbers i make this point all the time if you
9:50just try and project the turnout in in the mid in the november election here
9:55in california by taking an average of the last two 2018 and 2022 the total
10:00number of votes as an estimate is 11 .7 million that's the total so to
10:05win you need just over half of that call it 5 .9 million president trump
10:10in california in 2024 got 6 .1 million votes in other words there are enough
10:16republican votes in california for me to win just with republican votes if they all
10:22turn out now of course in it's very hard you never it's not easy to
10:26get a uh a presidential year turnout in a midterm election but that's the starting
10:31point and we've got two very very powerful things going in our favor for that
10:36because on the ballot this november in california as well as all the candidates will
10:41be two ballot initiatives that republicans particularly are enthusiastic about number one is save prop
10:4813 that's a taxpayer protection measure particularly on property tax on property tax Thank you.
10:52And the big one really is voter ID.
10:56So whatever happens with the Save America Act in California, we'll have the chance to
11:01vote for voter ID this November.
11:03That's a real turnout driver among Republicans.
11:06So that's going to be very important.
11:07But beyond that, of course, we want to build our support beyond the Republican turnout.
11:14And I think that my simple message, which is, you know, you can capture it
11:18in one word. That's what we've been taking up and down the state.
11:21Cal affordable, making our state Cal affordable with a very specific plan.
11:26Three dollar gas, cut your electric bills in half, your first hundred grand tax free,
11:31no more free health care for illegal immigrants.
11:33So we lower health care costs for you, a home you can afford to buy.
11:37That goes way beyond party lines.
11:40It's just common sense, pragmatic, positive, practical stuff.
11:43And I think that's how we're going to win.
11:45Do you think there will be any more funny business?
11:48You mentioned Tom Steyer potentially as the candidate behind coming after Swalwell.
11:54Katie Porter has had a bunch of videos come out of her looking awful.
11:58She's also got the boiling water and potatoes poured on her ex -husband's head story.
12:05Not exactly a very likable person.
12:08How much more funny business do you think is coming in this race?
12:12Yeah, there's a lot of expectation that Katie Porter is next, because there really is
12:18this assumption that Tom Steyer has been behind this and that there's plenty more to
12:22come out on Katie Porter.
12:23So I'm sure she's, you know, stealing herself for that.
12:26We'll see what what it is, whether it's different or just more of the same
12:29that we've seen from her.
12:31My argument is it honestly doesn't matter who they send, because we're sick of these
12:35people, this corrupt Democrat machine.
12:38On the policy front, it's a total disaster.
12:41We've got the highest poverty rate, highest unemployment rate, highest cost of living in the
12:45country. None of them offer any kind of change from what we've had.
12:49And so in a way, it doesn't matter.
12:51But I don't know. I think we're probably going to see Tom Steyer splashing more
12:56of the cash. You know, he's already spent, as I said, over 100 million.
13:00There's probably going to double that in the next month or so, including some dirty
13:03tricks on Katie. That's what I'd expect.
13:06Can I just ask you to bring us up to speed on something you're talking
13:09about regime change in California, which I love.
13:12And you're talking about making things affordable for people, which might stop.
13:16I got to say, I don't know if I want that to happen in some
13:19ways, because you're just driving up the Florida housing prices so much.
13:22And as an owner down here now, I'm loving all these Californians who show up
13:25like I'll pay anything. I just I just need to escape the madness.
13:28But to give people a sense of how this is all actually going in your
13:32state, bring us up to speed with the latest on the Palisades fire and the
13:37L .A. wildfire rebuilding situation, because I remember Gavin Newsom saying, we're going to pull
13:41all that red tape aside.
13:43We're going to make this so easy.
13:44It's going to be like a Swiss watch.
13:46I'm hearing not so much, Steve.
13:48How's that going? Nothing. In fact, one of the Iranian events that we're going to
13:53be holding in the next couple of weeks is in the Palisades in the ruins
13:57of a house that hasn't been rebuilt.
13:59There's no permit. You know, it's just unbelievable.
14:02You go there. There's something a little bit of construction going on.
14:05But what's really outrageous is the fact that they are absolutely using it to push
14:10the ideological agenda of building, replacing single a beautiful single family neighborhood with apartment buildings,
14:17low income apartment buildings. That is what they're pushing.
14:20And so there is this sense that these people are just ideologues who absolutely don't
14:26care about delivery, you know, just doing what the basic job of government should be,
14:30which is get out the way, provide the basics so that people can live their
14:33lives. No, they're constantly pushing this ideological agenda.
14:37So in a way, it's now worse than the incompetence of not issuing the permits
14:41and, of course, the incompetence that led to the fire in the first place.
14:45It's the actual, you know, exploitation of this for an ideological agenda to change the
14:50character of the Palisades that's got people so enraged.
14:54And I'm seeing it in the events we're doing in L .A.
14:56There's one this week, which is it's an event that we're doing, which is mainly
14:59Democrats, including some very surprising, you know, people who've been completely lockstep with the Democrat
15:07supporters and fundraisers and donors for many, many years coming along to my, you know,
15:12hosting and holding events for me in L .A.
15:14There's something there's something going on in California.
15:17I really feel it more and more every week that people are sick of what's
15:21been happening. And I think the Swalwell thing just adds to that.
15:24They're just disgusted by it, honestly.
15:26And I, oh, my gosh, these people have been in power too long time for
15:29change. It's going to be very powerful feeling.
15:31And then the one thing I haven't even mentioned, which is the fraud.
15:35The fraud story is huge in California.
15:37And that's why the whole, you know, I just had on my podcast, John Coupol,
15:43who's the president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association.
15:46Some people might remember back in 1978, it was called the Taxpayer Revolt in California,
15:51and it led to a ballot initiative, Prop 13, that put a limit on tax
15:56increases and property tax in particular.
15:58I feel like we're heading for another taxpayer revolt in California.
16:02As people see, you know, we pay the highest taxes in the country for the
16:06worst results. And now you see where your money's going, siphoned off into fraud and
16:11theft and financing the Democrat political machine.
16:14People are really fired up and enraged by that.
16:16That's going to be a big factor as well.
16:19Good stuff. always we encourage you get out and vote steve hilton three weeks from
16:23now ballots are out june 3rd is the primary we appreciate the time keep up
16:27the fight great to be with you guys see you soon that's steve hilton look
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17:41back into clay and buck clay a lot of interesting stuff there from steve hilton
17:45the man of the moment here stepping up in california with swalwell being pushed aside
17:49we're going to get into a bunch of your calls and talk backs everything else
17:53i didn't know tom he thinks it's tom steyer behind the scenes that was it
17:57that was a change i didn't expect that either yeah so we'll take your calls
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19:01calls a lot of talkbacks a lot of things here clay who are who on
19:04the live calls did you want to get to straight away you've got the live
19:07call screen in front of you there yeah the live school the live call screen
19:11has been flawless for two and a half hours and legitimately is now not up
19:15but uh okay that sounds about right for live radio nice let's do some talk
19:20backs maybe then what do you think if we can pull back up my call
19:24screener so that i can uh type people up and let them in we do
19:27have a ton of talkbacks uh tom and wait tom and tampa is the first
19:31call let's do tom and tampa he's waiting patiently go ahead tom yeah hey hey
19:36clay buck i've got two very very important points i wanted to just reinforce clay's
19:44original point about that with the uh uranium dust there could be some sort of
19:51deal behind the scenes with the iranians where delta goes in and takes it but
19:57iran can save face and the historical precedent for that and i'm sure clay probably
20:02knows this buck you probably do too being cia is that there was a secret
20:07deal with president kennedy behind the scenes with uh with the soviet union to pull
20:13the jupiter missiles out of turkey so there's a historical precedent for this and the
20:19second part which dovetails off my first point this is very very important is that
20:24president trump with maria bartiromo i believe it was yesterday did confess that we know
20:32exactly where the dust is and we're looking at it through satellite technology now whether
20:37any of that's true or not i'm not going to comment on but i am
20:41going to tell you that the one point feeds into the second point and really
20:45reinforces uh uh clay's original uh theory if that makes sense thank you for that's
20:52very interesting i appreciate that i think the i think the jupiter missile turkey analogy
20:56is unfortunately kind of miles away from where we are it is it is a
21:01backdoor backroom agreement to do something but this is the iranian regime considers its nuclear
21:08we have gone through this for over 20 years the whole point is they will
21:14not relent on this issue it would be to have a an equivalent it would
21:19have to be that the soviets agreed to give up their nuclear program which they
21:25would obviously not have done so there's no way the iranians are going to say
21:29you know what come and take our stuff and we'll pretend like oh no don't
21:32take our stuff but like we really want you to take our stuff the only
21:35because clay if they were willing to do that then i think they'd be willing
21:38to just come up with a deal they'd be more willing to at least extend
21:41things out and be less bellicose about all this yeah we'd be hearing about it
21:46if they were reasonable i don't think these are reasonable people were we're dealing with
21:49on the other side the speaker of the Iranian parliament the modulus the uh the
21:53uh national i mean the uh what's his name foreign minister i don't think that
21:57these guys are doves i don't think they want this to go away yeah i
22:01think the the way to think through it is they are i think you said
22:07earlier they might well get killed if they allow uh give up the uranium give
22:12up the pursuit of nuclear ambition so my sort of uh thesis on this is
22:19the way we saved the airmen we had to build a brand new landing strip
22:24we had to protect the surrounding penumbra uh surrounding this guy dropping bombs air superiority
22:32all of those things it's a rough test potentially for what might be necessary to
22:37extract the uranium and president trump said earlier either they give it up or we
22:42take it referring to the so -called nuclear uh dust if that is the standard
22:47both you and i agree they're not going to voluntarily hand it over and so
22:53uh that leaves us with the option of we go and take it i think
22:57president trump likes the cinematic aspects of this um and it would serve as a
23:02repudiation of the entire wmd search in iraq which never actually uncovered any weapons of
23:09mass destruction and it would represent a clear climatic end to the incidents that are
23:16taking place uh in iran so that is what i think is maybe the most
23:20likely outcome when all is said and done there are reports by the way that
23:26behind the scenes negotiations continue with iran and as we began the show today the
23:31newest update on the ground there is that the blockade is now in force in
23:37theory in uh in the straight of four moves i should also point out the
23:43price of oil and gas has actually come down today um and that also suggests
23:50that there is some form of expected settlement or there's just not a panic setting
23:56in because a lot of people said oh my goodness when trump is putting in
24:00the fact that he's going to uh come after the straight of four moves oh
24:05my goodness the price of oil and gas is going to skyrocket today it is
24:09up some today but not in a massive way and it's at the lows of
24:13the day right now right around 92 85 is what i see right now as
24:19i am checking the price of oil and gas down from i think it got
24:23up to 120 in the early days of these uh interactions and it hasn't gone
24:29up very much today so uh stock market by the way up overall s p
24:33500 now in positive territory for the year um so there does not seem to
24:38be buck any sort of substantial panic that is setting in over uh over all
24:44of these aspects let's play cut 41 here uh for those of you well that's
24:48a long cut but that's a little too long that's a little too long we
24:53can't it's like nine minutes uh i understand she's uh that video that went viral
24:58um that maybe we can shorten the katie porter cliff that went viral back in
25:04the day um and uh the tom steyer uh uh situation i don't know how
25:11this is going to go candy and texas cut jay uh be careful here we
25:16go talk back i once had someone send me a wiener pick what was the
25:21most embarrassing part for the guy was it took me a good five minutes to
25:25figure out what the picture was of whoa no i don't know candy um uh
25:34this is a we were talking about the challenge um associated with uh swalwell and
25:42his future i think that one of the interesting parts about swalwell buck is the
25:48number of people that said incredibly positive things about him until this story from the
25:53san francisco chronicle came out and everybody ran for the hills including including ruben gallego
25:59who is rumored to be a presidential candidate and was best buds pictured riding on
26:05camels with eric swalwell in the middle east and then as soon as this story
26:09comes out he is absolutely sprinting in the opposite direction uh claiming that he never
26:15had any idea about this and i think uh the the idea from steve hilton
26:21that tom steyer was the guy behind all of this is interesting because tom steyer
26:28referred to covid for those of you who have forgotten as trump's katrina and i
26:33think we have tom steyer saying that in the cuts right now trump is incompetent
26:38he is doing a terrible job on this mr trump is way late he has
26:43no capability he's incompetent i think this is a huge huge deal because this is
26:49like george w bush with the uh hurricane and flooding down in new orleans a
26:54total executive failure by an incompetent executive now this is interesting to me buck because
27:03biden got almost a full year advance to figure out what he was going to
27:08do about covid because covid obviously hit in february march 2020 biden did not come
27:13into office until late january 2021 and as as bad as i thought trump did
27:20in march and april of 2020 dealing with covid biden was infinitely worse even with
27:26a full one -year run -up and remember the only reason they stopped making us
27:31wear masks was not anything biden did it was the one judge down in florida
27:36who uh they finally just decided not to fight against her some people are saying
27:41the greatest judge among all judges she was a beautiful she's a beauty she stopped
27:46the masks on planes i'll love her forever i will love that woman i've never
27:50met her i don't even know her but i love her what was her name
27:52again my zell am i gonna get my zell oh judge my zell honestly a
27:58true i really mean this a true american legal hero i think american legal here
28:03we would still be wearing masks on the planes because people are morons the biden
28:07uh base was so crazy about masks that they needed a judge to just strike
28:14it down and i believe she was a federal district judge just issued an individual
28:19it's one of the most consequential district court opinions we've seen a long time uh
28:23and just said hey this masking requirement is basically absurd and remember they had the
28:28audio of people announcing it on the airplane and people celebrating like ripping their masks
28:33off on a bunch of different airlines back in the day also katrina is very
28:37similar to covid in that the media was able to manufacture a whole lot more
28:42politicized rage than was really warranted bush declared a disaster in it he declared an
28:49disaster i believe even in advance of katrina he he was within 24 hours or
28:56so they had the you know they let they had a massive deployment of of
29:01um active duty troops 7 000 active duty troops 21 000 national guard deployed uh
29:09u .s coast guard federal assets 10 .5 billion dollar emergency aid package within days
29:17of landfall like but the whole bush thing was kanye said let's just be honest
29:21kanye said george bush doesn't care about black people and then the media that just
29:25became the thing yeah that was their whole thing the the reality was you know
29:29where there was incompetence you know who the idiots were when it came to katrina
29:33stayed in local officials this is reality go back and look at the record the
29:37people who weren't ready who didn't have preparations who didn't have clear lines of command
29:41and control yeah you can always say that fema wasn't you know fema's a federal
29:45bureaucracy it's not great but in terms of what a president can do clay i
29:48just want everyone to know this everyone goes oh that's so -and -so's katrina it's
29:51a little bit like people with uh with um mccarthy and the list of yeah
29:57there were a lot of communist penetrations of the government my friends that's reality do
30:01you know that did they tell you that in school there were they were all
30:03democrats too that's why they don't tell you that in school so this becomes a
30:07thing uh you know the red scare actually there were a lot of reds and
30:12actually bush did not do a terrible job in katrina it was a once -in
30:16-a -century storm situation with state and local democrats being total idiots and they blamed
30:21it on bush because they made it a race issue that's really what happened just
30:25saying you won't hear that anywhere else but it is all the truth you can
30:27go check it yourself um let's go to phones when we come back 800 -282
30:34-2882 we got a bunch of talkbacks as well uh but i want to say
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31:44looking for normal in a world of crazy clay and buck have your back appreciate
31:50all of you hanging out um let's see pete in oklahoma fire away hi guys
31:57love the show listen every day rolling up and down the highways um you were
32:02talking earlier about the uh you know the nuclear dust over there we need how
32:06we're going to get it how we're going to go in and get that also
32:08talking about the midterms you know and things may get dicey people get nervous about
32:13it i was just thinking trump could uh maybe do a little head fake and
32:18uh you know play nice for a little while with the iranians and uh maybe
32:22let them go in and do all this heavy lifting and and excavate the area
32:26and uh then seize it after they've done all the work thank you for the
32:30call i think what they've said and thank you for listening is that we have
32:34constant visual ability to survey those areas and that if they start to touch anything
32:41we'll go in and boil them up again boil them up again so i think
32:44that is the threat that is out there right now as it pertains to those
32:48sites that we hit back in june uh joe in north florida retired colonel thanks
32:55for listening so yeah hi guys we love you you're uh you're wonderful um i
33:01uh in my air force career did some uh international dealings with various cats and
33:06dogs and um one of the one of the rules that you must follow is
33:12the basic three steps one never trust a communist two never trust a left -wing
33:19islamist and three never trust a left -wing american and if you do those all
33:27your negotiations will go very well as well as your interpersonal relationships but almost everything
33:33on your show in the last week or two has been because somebody violated one
33:38of those basic rules that's a great call a lot of truth to it thank
33:42you joe thanks for the service as well colonel uh mike in salt lake city
33:46fire away mike hey guys um one of the things that you talked about with
33:51your reins is that these people are crazy they're nutty in heaven as a guy
33:54former special operations holder to spend a bunch of time over there in that general
33:58region of the world they're not freaking crazy okay they're cunning they're absolutely cunning but
34:02here's something i think you missed in that irgc when they decapitated everyone irgc is
34:06now running that country okay so you've got mid -level guys that are probably very
34:11very guilty of war crimes against their own people and if that place falls those
34:14guys get the bottom of a rope and they know it so they literally have
34:17no place to go so they're gonna they're gonna drag this out as much as
34:20they can make it as painful hope that we don't topple that regime because they
34:24realize when it gets toppled those people who they their own people that they butchered
34:28are going to come back for them so i i don't think they're crazy by
34:31a long shot and i've dealt with people in that region a bunch i think
34:34that they're cunning and i think that they have literally no place else to go
34:37a handful might be able to flee to russia i mean the rest yeah i
34:40look i think that's all very astute thank you for calling in uh mike appreciate
34:44it i would just say clay yeah when we say crazy i mean it's really
34:47a way of saying they have different uh different risk tolerance and outcomes uh desired
34:54than we do in this in profound ways uh and and they view things you
35:01know i mentioned before okay well how do you describe people who are willing to
35:04deploy people as human minefield clearers which is what iran did during the iran iraq
35:10war now i know that's a little while ago but i'm saying how do you
35:13describe people yeah a suicide bomber has a plan in mind i think we profoundly
35:19disagree with the plan and also what they think is going to come in the
35:22afterlife from but you know this is you are dealing with people who have an
35:26entirely uh disconnected or or very different value set and uh ethics when you're talking
35:36about the iranian leadership they have very different ethics than we do uh just like
35:40hamas and israel have very different ethics right crazy is kind of a catch -all
35:44term in a lot of ways podcast listener i agree mike from las vegas buck
35:51you were talking about sports as sort of the uh security blanket we played on
35:55that on friday i think mike is uh reacting to that playing buck this is
35:59mike from las vegas uh the sports therapy thing is very true i remember in
36:03april of 2020 listening to clay on outkick on fox sports radio and him saying
36:07that this is the longest april and may of all time with his old crew
36:11uh listen to play since 2017 the old outkick days when he was actually a
36:16guest on the jay moore sports show and i remember thinking who the heck is
36:19this guy talking about these very interesting ideas and i followed you ever since so
36:24thanks a lot clay and buck oh very cool i just want to go back
36:29and listen to these old episodes of you clay so i can hear guys call
36:31in like clay the team's letting me down but i'm wondering something do you ever
36:37feel like your dad should have taken you fishing more i do remember you remember
36:44how long those days in march and april of 2020 felt like i mean those
36:48days seem like they lasted months uh we'll be back with all of you tomorrow
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