Hour 2 - Did You Watch the Oscars?
3/16/202637 mincomplete
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0:08We appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the
0:15Monday edition of the program.
0:17The Clay and Buck team has now made a flyer for a Netflix original series,
0:24the Gayatola with an Ayatola in rainbow -colored robes.
0:31Feels like... By the way, Netflix does make everything gay.
0:37So you're watching Stranger Things.
0:40Did you ever watch Stranger Things at all?
0:42Have you ever watched any of this?
0:43I saw the first season.
0:44The first season, yeah. First season was pretty good.
0:46Well, they're trying to save the world, spoiler alert, from evil monsters.
0:52And in the next to last episode, they just have like a 20...
0:56While they're trying to save the world, they have a pause, and one of the
0:59characters has to be like, hey, I'm gay.
1:02And have a big, hey, I'm gay talk.
1:04And it was totally out of the left field.
1:08Doesn't fit the plot at all.
1:10And they were universally ridiculed.
1:12But it is true that Netflix seems to have, require a gay or trans plot
1:17element of virtually every one of their shows.
1:20Or somebody who's white, who is actually being played by someone who is black.
1:25I thought the show Billions had its fair share of problems and a lot of
1:29degeneracy and all kinds. But it was entertaining, so I'm willing to put that aside
1:33for a while. But when it got to the hookup scene with the trans girl
1:39and the guy, and like we're going, like the tranny's getting naked, the whole thing,
1:44I was like, I'm done.
1:46This is a little more than I need.
1:48There's a little too aggressive here.
1:49You know what I'm talking about?
1:51Oh, yeah, totally. I remember that scene.
1:53I didn't mind that. What?
1:56Hold on. Hold on. What?
1:57I didn't mind that because at least I could buy that that would occur.
2:01What I didn't buy was all of those hedge fund baller dudes using the preferred
2:09pronoun of that person. That's true, too.
2:13They, yeah. Axe would not be calling the person they in the office all day.
2:17There's no super successful dude on Wall Street who is trading and putting billions of
2:22dollars on the line that is a preferred pronoun dude.
2:26All right? And even if there's one or two, they're not all using preferred pronouns
2:31when they're like having conversations not involving that person.
2:36That's where I was like, I can't keep watching this show because that's a chick
2:41and they would be calling her her.
2:44So, that was my, like, the show just got too woke.
2:48And you know the truth of the matter is...
2:49Unbinding the boobs, whatever. You were, like, good with all that.
2:52No, I didn't enjoy that.
2:54Look, what I have learned is...
2:56I didn't enjoy that. Yeah.
2:58Well, what I was going to say is I used to...
3:00My wife used to make fun of me for many things, but when we would
3:04watch HBO back in the day and Game of Thrones would put the nudity thing
3:09on the, you know, screen, like, hey, you know, there's going to be nudity.
3:12Early on in Game of Thrones, every time, legitimately, every time it happened, I would
3:17just say yes. And I would kind of pump my fist.
3:20My wife would just roll her eyes.
3:22Then it turned to all dudes naked.
3:24And I had to... You know, it's like Game of Thrones just went.
3:28It's only naked guys now.
3:29And it's not anywhere near as enjoyable of the nudity I don't get as excited
3:33about. They were getting ready for the Mojtabah show.
3:36You know what I mean?
3:37Not a lot. Would they...
3:39This is actually a funny question.
3:41Would they put a fatwa on the executives at Netflix if they made a Gayatola
3:49show? Or would it draw more attention to him being gay if they put the
3:55fatwa out? Like, are you in danger?
3:58Are they going to put a fatwa on me because I just shared the Gayatola
4:04or does it draw more attention to the fact that he's gay?
4:07It's a fair question. This is a real question.
4:10Real dilemma. You know what else is a dilemma?
4:13I wanted to tee off on this, Buck.
4:16This TSA agent thing, regardless of your politics, have you seen all these videos of
4:22people having to stand in line now for hours to get through TSA?
4:26There are reports that over 300 TSA agents have just said, I'm over this.
4:32They're not getting paid at all.
4:34This is something, and I flagged it this morning because I took a picture of
4:39it. Every airline CEO is now begging Congress to fund the TSA because many people
4:48get angry at the airlines.
4:49They get angry at the airports.
4:51They get angry at everybody.
4:52They shouldn't be angry at Democrats because if you're standing in line, if you're listening
4:57to us right now and you are standing in hours -long lines to get through
5:01TSA, the Democrats have done that to you.
5:04And so it's interesting to me that the airlines are now coming out to say
5:08nothing of the timing on this with the fact that we've had four different terror
5:13attacks in the last couple of weeks, New York City, Austin, Old Dominion, and the
5:20Detroit area. Don't you think that if they were going to...
5:24going to do a terror attack and they could related to airports this is the
5:28time maybe more than in the last 10 years when it's likely to occur and
5:33we have the lowest level of security regardless of your politics this to me is
5:38inexcusable yeah of course and it is unfair to the airlines because let's be real
5:44everyone's going to get upset at what seems to be airline incompetence when in this
5:50case it actually is congress playing games i'm trying to get people upset and then
5:56blaming the other people in congress instead of doing things that are constructive and worthwhile
6:01for the american people like passing the save america act which unfortunately i think is
6:06unlikely to happen i wish that were not the case but at least talking about
6:12it and drawing more attention to it enforcing a standing filibuster there are things that
6:16could be done that would be constructive uh but the tsa the long lines this
6:24is what you get when you have a media environment that refuses to hold one
6:28side accountable for its unwillingness to just go with funding that was already agreed to
6:34because they want to make an issue of something in election year which is they
6:37want to make problems for ice this is about ice fundamentally you were waiting in
6:41line because of minneapolis and all that stuff and they're going to be running these
6:46ads about it uh because the democrats want to cause problems the um yes all
6:53of that is true and the coverage on this would be totally different if the
7:00republicans had shut down tsa as opposed to democrats so it's not paid attention to
7:04here's another one that would be totally different did you see the awful mayor of
7:09new york city we talked about the ridiculous decision to put forward a policy to
7:13potentially have an estate tax for 750 000 uh dollars his wife buck provided illustrations
7:21to an anti -jewish uh book and now did you see that the mayor came
7:29out and said that it was unacceptable for her to be criticized at all for
7:34the artwork that she provided to this book and i just come back to can
7:40you imagine if if you took everything that has been said about uh jewish people
7:47by the mayor the likes all of those things and you shifted it and it
7:52was about black people and then in addition to that he had had a actual
7:58white supremacist he'd been able to find a white supremacist he had an actual white
8:03supremacist to eat in the mayor's mansion this story would be the number one story
8:09in america and it would be on the front page of every newspaper and yet
8:13where we are right now a lot of people are just saying well it's the
8:17mayor's wife so it shouldn't be a story uh i think jewish people are continuing
8:21to find out that they are seen as white and it doesn't matter what anybody
8:25says about white people we have a cut here mom donnie talking about his wife
8:29in this situation this is 26 let's hear from the commie i think that that
8:34rhetoric is patently unacceptable i think it's reprehensible and as is common for freelance illustrators
8:40the first lady was commissioned to illustrate an excerpt of a book by a third
8:46party she's never engaged with or met with the author nor had she seen the
8:50tweets that you're referring to and we stand in our administration and i can tell
8:55you our administration which is separate from the first lady as she doesn't have a
8:58role within it against bigotry of all forms and we do so unflinchingly because every
9:03single new yorker deserves a place that they can call home without having to be
9:07wary of being their full self when they do so he's so good at lying
9:11i mean he just is really an eloquent liar i mean i have to give
9:15him credit so one thing to remember is that among the left in this country
9:21if you are non -white you will get away with whatever anti -semitism you want
9:26and i any if you don't have to be arab muslim anything you're you're black
9:31as long as you're not white the left will excuse any level of anti -semitism
9:37and if you're a white leftist they kind of make it case by case you
9:41know we'll we'll let it slide with you or not how how useful are you
9:44to the movement how bad is your anti -semitism but if you're a black guy
9:48if you're a brown guy girl all the above you can say whatever you want
9:52about jews and the left will we'll be okay with you that's just the way
9:55it is it's it's just the way it is i think we saw that on
9:57the college campuses yeah we've seen that over and over again they have made a
10:01clear decision and there are jews on the left who maybe even recognize this reality
10:08that there are black and brown people in particular but also others who are very
10:12anti -semitic and very you know members of congress we could talk about i mean
10:16it's very clear that this this is a thing but they'll say but because we
10:20agree with them on so many of the other civilization destroying issues uh and america
10:24last agenda items will excuse it so even jewish leftists will say and some of
10:31these black and brown leftists are clearly full of hate when it comes to jews
10:35but they're useful and so they'll excuse it and i just trust me when i
10:39say this think about all the different people that can say all these things and
10:42get away with all this stuff if you're on the left they don't they will
10:46not hold you to account on it at all and i know there's a lot
10:49of fighting right now on the right a lot of fighting right now right now
10:52the right uh over but just keep in mind there's fighting there's fighting over what
10:57the acceptable parameters are there's fighting over what the this is an ongoing on the
11:02left like i said they've already they've decided a long time ago black and brown
11:05people can say whatever they want about jews and that's okay that's where they are
11:09i do think that it has stunned a lot of jewish people in the wake
11:13of october 7th because of the history of being jewish that they're just seen in
11:20the identity politics worldview that has predominated on the left now they're just seen as
11:25white they're thousands of years history none of it matters they're just seen for purposes
11:31of identity politics as white and therefore they're the bad guys even when they get
11:36attacked and i wonder honestly i tweeted a little about this because i've been reading
11:41there are white leftists who believe what you're saying by the way which is why
11:44they're okay with what goes on in the democrat party and don't have an issue
11:48with it because they view minorities as victims and then jewish victimhood is not as
11:56uh important to them in this moment exist in their worldview that there cannot be
12:00a situation where innocent uh you know white people are attacked and so uh they
12:08had to look at october 7th which is the biggest attack on israel since world
12:12war ii uh and the biggest attack on jewish people since world war ii literally
12:17the worst day for jews since the holocaust and they found a way to try
12:21to make jewish people responsible and i was tweeting about this over the weekend because
12:24i've been reading so much about world war ii and and the history around it
12:28i do wonder how the media would cover world war ii in in the context
12:35now in which we're seeing how iran is covered and everything else when there were
12:40actually bad things that happened and when we lost battles um i i i don't
12:46know because look whatever you want to say about iran the loss the casualties have
12:51been very uh small right uh we have basically wiped out iran and yet there
12:56are many people out there writing articles saying oh iran's winning this war oh the
13:01united states is losing i mean these things are very predominant on the left wing
13:05media sites i how would world war ii even be covered today there'd be a
13:09lot of people who said hey you know what the jews belong in the concentration
13:12camps and most of them would be on the left most of them would say
13:16well just let just let germany take control of this they're not doing anything wrong
13:19is anybody in the middle east going to complain about what germany would have been
13:23doing it and how many people on the left in america would have actually defended
13:28that it's really kind of wild to think about but when you see the way
13:32the media covers today it is i don't think we'd be seen as the heroes
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15:28wherever you get your podcasts welcome back into clay and buck and uh look i
15:33i know i know the oscars it was pretty sad i'll be honest with you
15:36there were a whole i only watched the last 15 minutes i would have lost
15:40a lot of money if you had i would have been stunned that you watched
15:43any of it is this just because you hate sinners where you hate watching to
15:47see if it was going to win is that the reason yes i was hoping
15:50that sinners was going to win best picture and then i'd be able to just
15:53tee off on just what garbage it is and how hollywood is such trash in
15:57general now and everything else instead maybe the second worst movie up oh maybe it's
16:03worse than sinners see this is the thing i have not seen this one battle
16:08after another movie that won best picture now i don't care about this by the
16:12way the academy so it's all these hollywood libs who are making the votes and
16:15making the or you know get casting the votes making these decisions so i get
16:19it producer you you Allie, who is our left -wing infiltrator, because she has the
16:25ability to blend, she says one battle after another is terrible, is terrible.
16:31I have to know now, is it worse than Sinners?
16:35Now I'm going to have to sit and waste at least two hours of my
16:39life to see if it is possible that they made a worse movie than Sinners
16:43and then celebrated it as the best picture.
16:45Allie is saying it is way...
16:46Have you seen both, Producer Allie?
16:50One battle after another is worse than Sinners?
16:55See, I've got to see this for myself.
16:56I want to take her word for it, but I can't, because Sinners is such
16:59trash. Did you see the...
17:01I want to share these when we come back.
17:03Did you see the requirements on diversity that are necessary for a movie to qualify
17:08for best picture now? Have you seen this?
17:11No. Okay, I'm going to read for you.
17:14After the lack of black nominees, I don't know, back in like 2018 or whenever
17:20it was that they decided to go off on it, they came out with new
17:24guidelines that every film has to meet for diversity and equity and inclusion purposes in
17:31order to be considered to win a best picture.
17:34And I'm going to read them for you.
17:36This is out there publicly.
17:38I saw it last night, and I could not believe that it was real.
17:41It is, unfortunately. Not spectacular either.
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18:57Welcome back in. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
19:00Okay, Buck, this is real.
19:02Like I said, and not spectacular for those of you out there that are Seinfeld
19:06fans. These are the real rules.
19:09In order to compete for Best Picture, all films must now meet the diversity and
19:16inclusion quota to be nominated.
19:20There are, these are the requirements, Buck.
19:23A lead or significant supporting actor must be from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
19:31At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented
19:38racial or ethnic group, including Black, East Asian, Hispanic, indigenous peoples, Middle Eastern, North African,
19:50Pacific Islander, South Asian, including Bangladeshi, Bhutanese, Indian, Nepali, Pakistani, and Sri Lankan.
20:00Southeast Asian, Southeast Asian, including Burmese, Cambodian, Filipino, Hmong, Indonesian, Laotian.
20:07Some of these I'm not even that familiar with, candidly.
20:11Malaysian, Mian, I don't know what that is.
20:13Singaporean, Thai, and Vietnamese. I think I deserve credit for not saying Thai.
20:19All right. That's one. This is one part.
20:21Second part, Buck. At least 30 % of all actors not submitted for Oscar consideration
20:29must be from at least two underrepresented groups, including women, racial or ethnic groups, LBGTQ
20:38+, people with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing.
20:45Now, there's a joke there because you could just be like, oh, we'll just say
20:48that he's, you know, like sub -IQ'd.
20:52And then another one, Buck, main storyline or subject matter, the main storyline theme or
20:59narrative of the group must be centered on an underrepresented group, women, racial or ethnic
21:05group, LGBTQ +, people with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard
21:12of hearing. So in order to qualify, you have to meet the diversity and inclusion
21:20guidelines to be considered for a movie.
21:24So, for instance, I saw Jimmy Fallon tweet about this.
21:28In theory, The Godfather would not qualify, I don't believe, as a Best Picture nominee
21:37now because my recollection of it is it's the story of an Italian family, obviously
21:42mobsters, but there's not a lot of diversity, equity, and inclusion in that film.
21:47The Godfather would not qualify, but there's not a lot of diversity in that film.
21:47The Godfather is the story of I would imagine a movie like Braveheart or Gladiator
21:51would not qualify now for an Oscar.
21:54You can go back through a lot of phenomenal movies that would no longer qualify
22:00to even be nominated. Titanic, I can't imagine, would qualify, really.
22:05It's kind of crazy to think about.
22:08Yes, in Braveheart, Edward Longshanks throws the gay lover of his son out the window
22:17summarily. I think that would be a big problem for the United States today.
22:22I think there would be issues that they would not be willing to overlook from
22:26movies that were celebrated as the best movies of our youth.
22:33There's a part of me that is actually just sad because movies were the dominant
22:37art form in America for really, I think, everyone listening right now.
22:42I mean, you can go back even into the 60s and say, you know, people
22:46would say music in the 60s, 70s maybe had the same kind of cultural resonance.
22:51The biggest movies in the 80s, 90s, and the early 2000s were the biggest cultural
22:56events that we had. It was bigger than any band, it was bigger than anything
22:58else, and it certainly had the most staying power, I think.
23:02And now it's just trash.
23:04They're just churning out trash all the time.
23:06And I think part of this is that once you've created some of these DEI,
23:10which really, it's race Marxism.
23:12And once the Academy and Hollywood in general put this race Marxism into place, it's
23:18very hard to get rid of because you have a lot of people now who
23:20have positions of authority that they were given because of skin color, LGBTQ status, whatever
23:27it may be, right, gender identity.
23:29Do you think that they're ever going to say, you know what, we're kind of
23:33messing things up by creating these rules that privilege and empower people like me?
23:38No, of course not. So they're the ones calling the shots, and they're the ones
23:42that are going to say, that list you wrote off is insane.
23:45It's insane, and it also tells you on its face that this is not about
23:49the best movie. This is about the movie that the people that think that these
23:54rules, you know, the movies that the people that think about these rules want you
24:01to see and think is the best.
24:04It's very, very thinly sliced onion.
24:06So think about this. Could you even, could Saving Private Ryan be nominated?
24:12When I think about history movies, right, we make fun of the fact that you
24:17watch a Viking historical drama, and suddenly there's a black female Viking, and you're like,
24:23I, you know, leader, I don't think it was very historically accurate that the Vikings
24:29were led by black women.
24:31And then you see, like, the Shonda Rhimes of the world who make tons of
24:35money from Netflix, and they say, you know, race is such a cultural construct, and
24:39they make, I don't know, whatever it is, Pride and Prejudice.
24:42Was Bridgerton the thing that she watches?
24:44I don't make, I don't watch it now.
24:45But you basically couldn't nominate a show like that for inclusion, because it's set in
24:55England in the 17th, 18th century, whatever the heck it is.
24:59But I mean, think about it just recently.
25:00Would you say Saving Private Ryan, whatever you think, is probably what, one of the
25:07jewels of modern American cinema?
25:10If you consider just the entire concept of the movie from start to finish, the
25:15D -Day shots, everything else, it clearly wouldn't qualify for best picture.
25:21They would have to create a, think about it.
25:23They would have to create.
25:24But almost none of the best pictures would qualify.
25:26Almost none, I don't think any of them.
25:27I mean, if you go back and look through them, but anything that has a
25:30historical aspect, either they have to create a subplot that has nothing to do with
25:36the actual history, right? So you're like, and here's Saving Private Ryan, and now we're
25:40going to also tell the story of the Tuskegee Airmen, and we're going to weave
25:44somehow that into this story of D -Day.
25:48But I mean, think about like Braveheart.
25:49They would just create black characters in Scotland, and they would have them in the
25:57movie so that they could qualify for Oscars, right?
26:00I mean, any movie that's made.
26:01I just watched Napoleon. Any movie that's made that actually features white guys and any
26:08military drama, for instance, of the last thousand years basically couldn't be made and compete
26:15for an Oscar now without a created subplot that involves a gay lesbian angle or
26:23a black subplot or a female subplot.
26:27I mean, maybe you could say, oh, we're going to make Josephine the star of
26:31the Napoleon drama so that it qualifies, and she's going to have 30 % of
26:34lines. This is awful. It destroys great art by making you check boxes as opposed
26:41to just make a great film.
26:43The Godfather is a perfect example because it's probably the greatest film that's ever been
26:46made. I mean, it's up there.
26:47It used to be the case that the Best Picture nominees and also just in
26:51general the movies that would get a lot of acclaim were also the movies that
26:55everybody saw and a lot of people loved.
26:57Now, that's not universally the case, or it's not 100%, but movies that people love
27:02would get nominated for stuff.
27:04Didn't Gladiator win Best Picture?
27:06Oh, yeah. Yeah, Gladiator won Best Picture.
27:08Titanic won Best Picture. Did Braveheart win?
27:11Yes, 100%. Braveheart won Best Picture and Best Director.
27:15So, Mel Gibson. Did Saving Private Ryan win?
27:19I mean, no. No, Shakespeare in Love, I think, beat Saving Private Ryan that year.
27:24Well, that's a whiff. I remember this.
27:25It was a Weinstein -Miramax film.
27:28Well, Harvey Weinstein never did anything wrong.
27:31We all know that. So, we had...
27:35Hollywood's favorite. Everybody who lectures you about morality, they loved Harvey Weinstein.
27:41I... It's astonishing to see how far it's fallen, though, where now it's like they're
27:47celebrating weird arthouse films and trying to get everybody to act like they're so great.
27:52And they're just not... When people say, like, what makes a movie good, is it
27:56really entertaining? Are you sitting there and the time is flying by because you're really
28:00into the story? I mean, I think that's one of the first ways you can
28:02know. I mean, the movie Sinners is just...
28:04It's a rip -off of From Dusk Till Dawn, which is a movie that is
28:10probably best seen after drinking a 40 of old English or smoking something when you're
28:16in college, okay? From Dusk Till Dawn is not a great movie.
28:20It has its entertaining moments, and it is among the best...
28:23Thank you, Selma Hayek, for dancing with the python back in the day.
28:26I knew Clay was going to come in with a Selma Hayek there.
28:29I just knew. That's one of the great scenes in film history, I'll just point
28:32out. Selma was... Selma did very well for herself.
28:36So, but this is... You look at Sinners and the plot, you just read the
28:41plot. You're like, this is stupid.
28:42This is a stupid plot.
28:43It's not a good movie.
28:45I haven't seen it. I love that you hate Sinners this much.
28:48I haven't seen it at all.
28:49You know that there's now memes about people that feel like they have to tell
28:52you how much they hate Sinners?
28:53Like, this is a thing now?
28:54You know, because it's not enough to just be like, it's a bad movie.
28:58Like, they want to tell everybody.
28:59But yeah, I'm somebody who wants to tell everybody.
29:01It's a terrible movie. That's the great line for Succession.
29:03Do you remember when they're in that party and they're like, what kind of party
29:06is this? And he was like, it's a party where you can tell everybody that
29:09you actually think that Hamilton was awful.
29:11Hamilton is bad? Yeah. That totally resonated with me because I was kind of a
29:17holdout. There were people who were right of center who were like, I think Hamilton's
29:22really good. And I was like, you're just part of the mob, part of the
29:26herd on this one. It is absolutely not.
29:28Hamilton is trash. It is garbage start to finish.
29:31There is no reason for you to pretend that you like this.
29:34I know it's the most successful financially musical of all time.
29:36I don't care. Is that true?
29:38Yes. No way. Yes. It's not more successful than Cats and Les Mis.
29:43Check it out, team. There's no way that's true.
29:45Look at it. Those are just way long.
29:47I know nothing about musicals.
29:49I just don't think it's old enough.
29:51Clay, people were charging like $1 ,000 a ticket for years to go to see
29:55Hamilton. And that was just like basic tickets.
29:56It was crazy. It was like paying penance for all of America's historic and racial
30:05wrongs. You had to pay a mortgage payment to go see Hamilton to be a
30:09good person. I went and saw it.
30:10I thought it was okay.
30:11But I like history. And I still think a country and Western version of the
30:17Obama administration played by white actors to prove how race doesn't matter would actually just
30:24kill. And I would love to see the reaction.
30:28We're going to do a country and Western version of Obama.
30:30And we've got white men and women playing Barack and Michelle Obama because race is
30:34a cultural construct. I'm going to let you redeem yourself here.
30:36I'm going to let you redeem yourself.
30:37What's better, Scream 7 or Hamilton?
30:40Scream 7. There we go.
30:43I haven't even seen Scream 7.
30:45And I can tell you it's better than Hamilton because Hamilton sucks.
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32:28All right. I'm taking a lump on this one.
32:30When I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I'm wrong.
32:33Hamilton, and this is where my trivia got a little confused.
32:36This was actually from a trivia night question, Clay, recently, which Karen and I maybe
32:40won trivia night for the third time.
32:42But who's counting? No big deal.
32:43um the fastest musical to a billion dollars was hamilton hamilton's a billion nine musical
32:49the all -time gross though to your point you were totally correct on this one
32:53which i hate saying out loud but it is true um totally correct the highest
32:57grossing five musicals of all time are the lion king eight billion dollars phantom of
33:03the opera six billion wicked five billion mama mia four billion mama mia really wow
33:10five cats i knew cats would be in there and then les mis is six
33:15uh so those are the highest grossing but those i'm actually i'm embarrassed to be
33:20correct on this to be fair to be know which you're you're our musical expert
33:24now on the show play is our musical guy it's good to know he is
33:28a flute player and he's musical oh i hate musicals i'm fine with plays just
33:35don't start singing in the middle of them i i just i despise all of
33:39them but it is interesting i do think hamilton is an interview did you include
33:43this in your book no about like a mass hysteria that everyone had to well
33:48just a mass delusion that everybody feels compelled to say this is the greatest thing
33:53that's ever existed um i do think hamilton would be an interesting example of that
33:58because there are some shows that i watch and i say you know what this
34:02is really well done or some movies that i watch and i think this is
34:05really well done there are others that i think people have just gotten bullied and
34:09they feel like if they say anything else that they're going to be judged by
34:13the people that they think are the tastemakers and um and and that's where i
34:19think hamilton is a perfect example of this and i think the fact what is
34:22the guy's name uh who wrote it um uh well of course there you go
34:29lynn manuel miranda i think if a white guy had done hamilton i think it
34:34would be a fraction as popular i think the fact that he's a minority hispanic
34:38guy whatever he is he's puerto rican um i think that played in and again
34:42the whole i'm going to replace white actors with black actors to demonstrate that race
34:48is a social construct is absurd on many levels but particularly when it comes to
34:53history because people were or were not a certain race um and uh i think
34:59that kind of factors in on the historical accuracy element associated with that isn't it
35:05denzel washington who's playing hannibal i think that's right yes i'm willing to give a
35:11pass because denzel is maybe the greatest actor of his generation but they've tried to
35:16do all sorts of things like cleopatra they tried to say oh she was actually
35:19cleopatra was greek by ethnicity people don't realize this but the mediterranean basin but we
35:26what we think of today as oh you're from tunisia yeah no that's not what
35:31tunisia was in 500 bc no not not the case but people so they tried
35:37to say cleopatra was actually black because there's this constant demand to uh take historical
35:42figures and try to make people who are alive today feel better not even that
35:46she's arab they want to say she's black and you're like that's from egypt which
35:51is predominantly arab but it actually was greek which is why it was a part
35:57of the hellenistic world and anyway this is you know this is all again if
36:02you control history which is the foundation of the 1619 project then there is a
36:08belief that you can control the future and this is why i'm so fired up
36:11about the lack of historical literacy in america today and you should read more history
36:17and hopefully you should teach more history to your kids and your grandkids because if
36:21you do uh you will have a better comprehension of the world today and a
36:25more favorable impression of america's role in it when we come back president trump a
36:30bunch of different uh quotes from him on a variety of topics he had a
36:34press conference we will play some of those for you and buck this is actually
36:38an awful story the iranian women's soccer team uh that stood up to the ayatollahs
36:44and the islamic regime there is a sad postscript to this story we will share
36:49it with you probably nobody else will thanks for hanging with us on clay and
36:53buck