It's a Numbers Game: The Numbers Behind Immigration Battles, Gen Z Shift & Swalwell Fallout
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0:33T's and C's apply. Welcome back to Numbers Game with Ryan Gruduski.
0:39Thank you guys for being here.
0:40We have an action -packed show for you.
0:42I have a special announcement.
0:44We have poll numbers. I have an interview with a U .S.
0:46Senate candidate. You're not going to want to miss it.
0:48Let's get into the first thing.
0:50If you checked out my social media yesterday, I have officially launched a new super
0:53PAC called Homeland PAC. It's dedicated to defeating pro -amnesty Republicans in Congress and the
0:59House of Representatives. Maria Salazar's dignity bill just has set me off, and it's a
1:05step too far. And I think it's time that we hold Republicans accountable.
1:10Polls have shown time and time and time again that Republicans' opinion on immigration, to
1:14paraphrase Hillary Clinton, should be safe, legal, and rare.
1:18And supporting amnesty is just not part of that equation, and I just don't think
1:24that there's anything we should do to endorse what their position is and make it
1:30known that if you do this, you're going to get a primary challenge, and you're
1:33going to have that primary challenge well -funded.
1:36We want to protect our borders.
1:38We want to reduce legal immigration and maybe restrict it in certain ways to not
1:43every country on Earth. We only want immigrants to enrich our society instead of bringing
1:48cultures that challenge our country and our social trust.
1:51So this PAC is going to be a new passion project of mine.
1:54We're already targeting one pro -amnesty Republican in the primary this year, maybe a second
1:59one, depending if we have raised the money in time.
2:02You know, it's a multi -year thing, and I'm going to make it known that
2:05you have time, if you are a Republican member of Congress, to back away from
2:09this bill. You don't have to own up to this.
2:11I won't have to sit there and spend the money against you.
2:13And we'll all just be much happier for it.
2:17But that's my plan. It's a passion project.
2:19Hopefully, you will check it out.
2:21It is a long way out from really campaigning, but we'll see.
2:27So you can go to homelandpact .com to read more about it, donate, see our
2:31progress, read up on stuff.
2:33But enough is enough, and I hope that this will be the beginning of making
2:36sure Republicans are held accountable.
2:38We need to tell Republicans in Washington to stop selling out this country.
2:43OK, before we go into the polling, I have to talk about Eric Slawwell, Congressman
2:49Eric Slawwell. So Slawwell, I mentioned briefly in the previous episode that he was being
2:56accused while he has stepped out of the race for governor.
2:58And because there's at least four people, four women accusing him of sexual assault and
3:04harassment. And guys, I'm going to be honest with you.
3:07There are a lot more, a lot, lot, lot, lot more.
3:11I know of at least one woman who is a friend of mine who he
3:15groped in the back of a car.
3:17I know of another friend who was a lobbyist who had a professional meeting with
3:22him. And within 30 minutes of leaving his office, he was texting her very inappropriate
3:28things. He is a predator, a serial predator.
3:32Everyone, everyone knew that there was something up with this guy.
3:37If you had any interaction with him for five seconds, he is not a good
3:41man. And the person who's running away fastest, this is the interesting part, the person
3:47who's running away fastest from this is Senator Ruben Gallego from Arizona.
3:51Now, Gallego has not made a secret of the fact that he wants to run
3:55for president in 2028. He is going to swing states.
3:58He's building a national fundraising committee or fundraising apparatus.
4:03And he is saying Slawwell had this double life that he did not know.
4:07He knew nothing about. How could he know?
4:10No one. And I'm telling you, no one, and I've spoken to Democrats about this,
4:15like, in the know, believes him.
4:18No one believes him. Absolutely no one believes him.
4:21Now, Gallego and Slawwell weren't just friends.
4:23They were, by their own acclaim, best friends.
4:26Listen to this clip. Tonight, you get to meet my best friend in the world,
4:30Ruben Gallego. You have become the national campaign chairman for Representative Eric Slawwell, a Democrat
4:38from California. See, I'm a good chairman.
4:39I got to, I got to correct you on that.
4:41Slawwell. Yeah, he's from up my way.
4:44I grew up in the Bay Area.
4:45He's an Alameda County guy up near Oakland.
4:47Yeah. Why him? Well, look, we're, first of all, we're best of friends.
4:53We actually babysit each other's kids.
4:55Not that that's the only reason, but, you know, I think he wants someone.
4:58You know his heart. I know his heart.
4:59And he also wants somebody, I think, in his camp that's going to look out
5:02for him and also keep him honest because these campaigns can be very difficult.
5:06Now, to remind everyone that may not know, Gallego, who's running away from Slawwell as
5:11fast as he can, divorced his pregnant wife, sealed his court records, and then secretly
5:17married a woman 15 years younger than him that he met at a congressional baseball
5:20game. Is it a shocker?
5:23that they were best friends?
5:24And what exactly is in Ruben Gallego's background that he is not sharing?
5:29I don't know. I think we're going to hear more and more whispers as we
5:34get closer and closer to 2028.
5:36Now, Slalwell was one of four congressmen facing expulsion hearings this week.
5:41Congress was going to kick out four members, two Republicans and two Democrats, for various
5:46corruption and other improprieties. Slalwell, Tony Gonzalez, who I've covered a lot in this podcast,
5:51Corey Mills, who I've also covered a lot in this podcast, and Sheila McCormick.
5:55Gonzalez and Slalwell decided to resign, keeping their pensions, just FYI, before being exposed.
6:03Ironically, it's Mills and McCormick, though, who have the most serious allegations against them, but
6:08received the least amount of attention.
6:11Their allegations would suggest they're far more corrupt, allegedly.
6:15And of course, there are two, these two are fighting to stay into the last
6:20second. They need to stay.
6:21They need those jobs in Congress.
6:23So we'll be interested to see if Congress does what's right and kicks them to
6:27the curb and shows a little backbone or whether Slalwell and Gonzalez will be enough
6:32to kind of show they've cleaned house, even though they resigned on their own.
6:37OK, that's the news. That's the up to date news.
6:40Let's get into a new poll that came out.
6:43That's just it's got incredible information.
6:45So it's a Yale University poll and it puts young voters, it polls young voters
6:49every single year. And it's unique because their sample size of young voters is very
6:54large. A lot of a lot of poll sample young voters.
6:57But oftentimes, young voters have the smallest demographics.
7:01So the margin of error is very large.
7:05It's very difficult to get actual details from there.
7:08They don't break it down by anything else besides their age.
7:11And within the within the Gen Z population, they don't break it down between younger
7:18Gen Z and older Gen Z.
7:19Only the Yale University poll does that.
7:22OK, so what are the key takeaways?
7:23First, Trump's poll numbers are sinking with young voters.
7:27We kind of know this already.
7:28It's been pretty obvious from every poll.
7:30According to this Yale University poll, Trump has a 27 percent approval rating with voters
7:36under 30. However, what we saw in the last election, the 2024 election persists today.
7:43There are two Gen Z's.
7:45Ryan, what are you talking about?
7:46Two Gen Z's. There are two Gen Z's.
7:48There's the Gen Z who got to experience high school without COVID and are more
7:53likely to have boomer parents versus Gen X parents.
7:56And they're more likely to be Democratic and be more liberal.
7:59And then those are the ones who experience a government shutdown and lockdown and no
8:04high school. And their parents are more likely to be Gen X.
8:08Remember, Gen X is more Republican than baby boomers are.
8:12From the start of the Trump administration till now, favorability among men between the ages
8:17of 18 to 22 is down eight points from negative 19 to negative 27.
8:22That's actually Trump's best demographic among young voters is men under the age of 23.
8:28Now, remember, the data from David Shore, Trump actually won men under 20 in the
8:34last election. So it's not shocking that these it's shocking when you hear it.
8:40But when you know all the data, when you've heard a complete record, it's not
8:44that that surprising that young men are the most ambitious support among young women between
8:4818 and 22 has fallen 14 points and stands at a daunting negative 54 points.
8:55You have an extreme difference between young men and young women with young women being
8:59very left wing. Let me tell you, there's a lot of young conservative guys who
9:03are going to be in a difficult position when it comes to finding a wife
9:07and trying to find someone who is compatible on politics and trying to convert young
9:11women. That's that's your goal, gentlemen.
9:15If you are a young conservative man and you're dating a woman and she's either
9:19on the fence or she's a mild left wing, getting married, having kids and making
9:24her conservative. There's no it's a it's a difficult task, but it's absolutely possible.
9:29I've seen I know I know women in my own life, by the way, who
9:32were Democrats, became Republicans based on who they married and stuff.
9:36Marriage does affect a lot of that.
9:38Men between 23 and 29 support has fallen nine points from negative 24 to negative
9:4233. Support among young women from 23 to 29, same age group, has fallen seven
9:48points from negative 40 to negative 47.
9:51When it comes to the generic ballot of who are you going to vote in
9:55the midterms, Democrats lead overall by just two points.
9:59It's actually one of the best polls for Republicans overall.
10:02Among young voters, the 18 to 22, the young demographic that lived with the shutdowns
10:09and missed high school, they're D plus 23.
10:13Older Gen Zers are D plus 30.
10:16So that generational divide, even though they're both supporting Democrats, is persistent even in this
10:21poll. The only group of all ages that swung right, this is including boomers, millennials,
10:27Gen Xers, the only group that have swung right from 2025 to 2026 are men
10:34between 18 to 22. Let me repeat that.
10:37The only group that is continuing to swing right are men between 18 to 22.
10:43They're supporting Democrats by ages a three point margin.
10:47It's in the margin of error.
10:49If things improve, which who knows?
10:51if they will, who knows if they won't, but if things improve, it's not impossible
10:55that Republicans win young men again.
10:57Young women, on the other hand, totally different story.
11:00They're supporting Democrats by a 44 -point margin.
11:04If you have a young daughter talking to her about politics so she doesn't end
11:09up like one of these women, very important if you're a conservative.
11:13Men between 23 to 29 are supporting Democrats by a 20 -point margin.
11:17That's 17 -point difference from men 18 to 22, from 23 to 30, from 23
11:23to 29. 17 points in that two Gen Z or age gap.
11:29But anyway, that D plus 20 is a 14 -point swing.
11:32Women of the same age are supporting Democrats by a 33 -point margin.
11:36It's a 10 -point swing in Democrats' direction.
11:39Voters between 18 to 22 said they are more liberal than conservative by 14 points.
11:44Voters between the ages of 23 to 29 say they're more liberal by 19 points.
11:48Once again, emphasizing that two Gen Z gap with the COVID lockdowns.
11:54That may not seem like a lot, but it feeds into what I've been saying.
11:59There are two Gen Zers, and you're supposed to be more liberal when you're younger.
12:03You get more conservative when you get older.
12:05But the opposite is happening with this young demographic of Gen Zers.
12:08I'm sure if the poll were to break it down even further among like young
12:12white men or young Latino men or whatever, you would see an even bigger divide,
12:16given that young black men are overwhelmingly Democrat.
12:19Most important issue to young voters is the cost of living.
12:22Not surprising. Corruption is number two.
12:24Democracy is number three. Housing, health care, and K -12 education ran out the top
12:29six. This is fascinating. The Republican question about who you're going to vote for is
12:34not interesting because they included Don Jr.
12:36in the poll, and Don Jr.
12:38is not running, so it skewed everything.
12:42So I'm going to say, what would you like to vote for as a young
12:44Democrat in the 2028 Democratic primary?
12:48Top two, you'll probably easily guess one, AOC.
12:51And the number two person, Kamala Harris.
12:54That was interesting. Kamala Harris having support from, I guess, the people who still root
13:00for Brat Summer. I'm not exactly sure.
13:02But young Democrats really still feel it for Kamala.
13:06I find that fascinating if that will cool down or not.
13:09I think there's a real push to get Kamala to run again.
13:12I'm not lying about it.
13:14Other interesting points of the poll.
13:16Only 4 % of young people think that the AI should not be regulated.
13:20A majority of Republicans and Democrats want the federal government to regulate it.
13:25And when he asked about anti -Semitic beliefs, 41 % of people between the ages
13:30of 23 and 29 believe in at least one anti -Semitic belief of the list
13:34that they had. It's substantially larger among Black and Latinos than whites.
13:39I think that's important to note just because I think the idea of who's believing
13:46a lot of the anti -Semitic beliefs is kind of incorrect.
13:51It's not always white kids from the suburbs as much as people think that there
13:54is. And I think it's fascinating.
13:56Of all the tested quotes on Israel and Palestine, the person who had the most
14:00positive quote among all demographics was actually Chuck Schumer, which was like this bland, like,
14:06Israel deserves to be a Jewish state, but should treat Palestinians with respect.
14:09That was the most favorable opinion among all demographics and political parties, actually.
14:14It was the only quote that actually had a majority support from both Republicans and
14:17Democrats. I found that fascinating, too.
14:19Ted Cruz's hardline stuff didn't win with young people, neither did Nikki Haley's AOC stuff,
14:25and Ilhan Omar's was way too one -sided for Republicans and independents.
14:30Chuck Schumer actually hit the right tone, which I thought was interesting.
14:32Anyway, that's the poll. It's an important nugget into an emerging demographic, especially one that
14:39seems split based upon how they experienced COVID and also who their parents are.
14:45Are their parents baby boomers?
14:46Are their parents Gen Xers?
14:47Okay, fascinating stuff. Now let's go into politics.
14:51I have an interview with a U .S.
14:53Senate candidate, John Fleming. He's the treasurer for the state of Louisiana.
14:56He is making a bid to oust incumbent Senator Bill Cassidy.
15:01He's a conservative from Louisiana.
15:03We're talking issues over AI, nuclear energy, immigration, the economy, healthcare, you name it.
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15:42T's and C's apply. With me on today's episode is the treasurer for the state
15:47of Louisiana and candidate for U .S.
15:49Senate, John Fleming. John, Mr.
15:51Fleming, thank you for coming on this podcast.
15:52Yeah, thanks, Brian. So why did you want to go back to Washington?
15:56You had worked for the Trump administration.
15:57Why did you want to go back to Washington in the Senate in this capacity?
16:01Well, there's a lot of work left to do, some of which I've worked on
16:05previously. I was one of the leaders in the opposition in 2009 -2010 against Obamacare,
16:14which has actually taken a sick health care system.
16:18and made it far worse, where the costs are going up faster than inflation, probably
16:23twice as fast. And the money's going into the pockets of CEOs and middlemen, certainly
16:30not in the pockets of health care providers.
16:33And patients are not getting a good value.
16:36But there are many other things.
16:37We've got border security to work on.
16:39We still don't have a permanent solution to that problem.
16:44We need to rebuild our Navy.
16:47We have an effective Navy now, but still, in many ways, China's getting ahead of
16:53us. So there's just so much work to do in Washington.
16:57So I'm happy to get back to it.
16:59Well, if you win this primary and you're in a three -way primary, well, there's
17:04more than three counts, but you're the top three.
17:06In this primary, if you were to win, your time as a senator would exceed
17:12that of President Trump's presidency, you'll be there for six years and he only has
17:16two more left. Do you think that Washington really wants to go back to a
17:23business that predates Trump? Well, the thing about President Trump is he's an innovator.
17:33He's a problem solver, and he does it in very unique ways.
17:37And he showed us that we can use some of the tools that we learn
17:42in business. I'm also a businessman as well as a doctor.
17:45I still have 350 employees.
17:48And I watch what President Trump does, and I relate to it very well because
17:53sometimes you attack a problem, but then you decide the next step later.
17:57You don't have the full plan because you're not sure how the other side is
18:02going to react. And he does a great job.
18:04Iran is a great example.
18:06He keeps changing his strategy based on the facts on the ground, but he'll eventually
18:12get there. Most presidents, if it doesn't work the first time, they give up and
18:16throw in the towel. So I think he has changed the way Washington works for
18:22good. I certainly hope so.
18:24And I really look forward to a new Washington, D .C.
18:27When I heard you speak, I heard you speak at a men's Republican group.
18:31You spoke a lot about the debt and the deficit.
18:33And I thought you spoke very coherently and very intelligently.
18:37You know, the debt is $37 trillion, which is insane.
18:41But what's worse than that, in my opinion, is the fact that we're just used
18:46to now a trillion dollar a year deficit, that that's just acceptable when it wasn't
18:51until COVID. How would you tackle that issue?
18:56Well, you make a great point, Ryan.
18:58So spending an extra trillion or $2 trillion a year that we don't have works
19:05fine until it doesn't. And when it doesn't, and the world realizes that we're not
19:11good for the money, we can never pay it all back.
19:14Remember, there are people lending us this money within the full belief that we're going
19:20to pay it back someday.
19:22So a lot has to do with really the trust is, you know, are we
19:29going to be able to get this under control?
19:31And it starts by bending that cost curve down and bending the revenue curve up.
19:38And you may have heard me talk a little bit about tariffs.
19:42Remember, we've been operating for 40, 50 years with an imbalance of trade, a trade
19:47deficit. We've been given all the advantages and the jobs and the companies to overseas
19:54entities. And that's one of the reasons why we have this deficit.
19:59So as we recoup that and we begin to bring those billions and billions of
20:04dollars back into the U .S., bring the jobs back, that means we have a
20:08stronger tax base. But we also have got to tighten our budget.
20:15We're paying the way for too many people.
20:18I mean, look at Medicaid and look at SNAP and look at housing and all
20:22of that. Look, in Louisiana today, we have more people on Medicaid than we do
20:27on any other form of health insurance.
20:31That's recent history. It wasn't like that, only a couple of decades ago.
20:35And so we need more people pulling the wagon and fewer people riding in the
20:40wagon who are otherwise able -bodied citizens.
20:43So that's where it all begins, right?
20:45Yeah. You know, you mentioned manufacturing and bringing jobs overseas.
20:49One thing I never understand, and it's still not the case, and it's just maybe
20:54a policy idea that I want you to think about.
20:56I don't know if you have an answer to it.
20:57Why don't, why doesn't the government, the government is one of the largest purchasers of
21:01goods in the country, right?
21:03Why isn't, why don't we have an agreement where the Pentagon and Department of Home,
21:08of Home Security, Department of War, why don't they just purchase medical, pharmaceutical drugs that
21:14were made in America instead of purchasing them from China?
21:17We could bring our supply chains closer to home if we just made the government
21:21purchase them. Even if it's at a tiny, higher price for the government, it's, I
21:27mean, that's, it'll be a rounding error on the overall budget.
21:30Do you have an opinion about that at all?
21:32Well, yeah. There's a very good reason why we, not just the military, but other
21:38parts of the United States source these things out of China and Taiwan and places
21:44like that. That's because It's not being made in the United States.
21:48It isn't there. Why isn't it there?
21:51Remember, we started the microchip business.
21:55We created those. We invented them.
21:58And it wasn't long. It didn't take many years before all that went to China
22:01and Taiwan. Why? Because they so -called had cheap labor and all that kind of
22:06stuff. But again, that goes back to the trade deficits and all of that.
22:10Our government has not been protecting our workers and our companies.
22:16But Trump is doing a real good job bringing that back, particularly things that are
22:21essential. For instance, there are a lot of chips that we need for national defense,
22:27and we have to bring all that chip production back to the United States.
22:32Because if we get into a war with China, what are we going to do?
22:36Put in an order for more microchips from China?
22:39That isn't going to work.
22:40Also, rare earths. We've been getting all of our rare earths from China.
22:45That's one of the reasons why the president is looking at Greenland, because there's a
22:49lot of rare earth resources there.
22:53So we have to be able to produce it, but we also have to sustain
22:57that manufacturing here. And it takes a government that supports industrialists in doing that.
23:04And I do think we're in the process of doing that.
23:06Now that we know that China is a malign nation and we can't depend on
23:10them any longer. Yeah. I just think the government demanded that people, manufacturing would come
23:14home if we said we're going to purchase it.
23:17I want to ask about immigration.
23:17It is the number one or number two issue perpetually for Republican voters.
23:23First, I want to ask about Congressman Maria Salazar's bill.
23:30I don't know if you've read it or heard about it.
23:32It would basically be legalization for all illegal aliens, but they wouldn't get the right
23:38to vote. I'm kind of, I've poo -pooed this as she's saying they're going to
23:41get the right to vote.
23:42A Democrat will just make them get the right to vote afterward.
23:44What is your position when it comes to how to finally tackle illegal immigration?
23:49We've been through this, this sort of idea before that happened under Reagan and Bush.
23:55Well, we'll just go ahead and accept the ones that are here, but we'll never
24:00will let any more in, and yet somehow more come in.
24:04No, we can't allow that.
24:06And any kind of incremental approach to this is nonsense.
24:11Democrats love to do that.
24:13They'll set up a situation and get Republicans to compromise, and then they go right
24:18back at it, opening up the borders once again.
24:21Now, it's time that if people are not here legally, they need to go back
24:25where they came from, and if they do want to migrate or immigrate to the
24:32United States, they should apply like anyone else and stand in line.
24:36And I don't think the line should be inappropriately long for that, but we should
24:41control. We should decide who do we want in our country.
24:45For instance, we don't want Sharia law in this country.
24:48And if we have people or groups that insist on bringing Sharia law, I think
24:52that we should stop that type of immigration.
24:55We should control. We're the only country in the world that doesn't control who immigrates
25:00to their country. The rest of them, you know, would never do these things.
25:04Even Canada doesn't do that.
25:07It's ridiculous. Well, Canada is lucky to have us as a southern border, a southern
25:11neighbor in Mexico. When you say the line shouldn't be long, there are a lot
25:16of polls that have shown that Americans, especially Republicans, want to reduce legal immigration.
25:21We bring in over a million legal immigrants per year through different things, through chain
25:25migration, through family reunification, through asylum, through work visas.
25:30How many legal immigrants do you think should come to the United States per year?
25:34Or a rough estimate? You know what you mean, exactly?
25:36You know, Ryan, I don't have a number.
25:38I can't give you a number because I'm not deep into that subject.
25:42What is more important to me is that we decide who can come, we as
25:47citizens, we as a government, and that we determine that based on what is the
25:53best interest of the United States.
25:57So, in some cases, you know, we may need more scientists, for instance, in certain
26:04areas, and, you know, we've got to open that up.
26:07There may be certain other skill sets that are important.
26:12So, I just don't have a number.
26:14I can never give you an arbitrary number about that.
26:16I don't think it matters as much as it does that we should make those
26:20kind of decisions. And we did in the past, in the early part of the
26:251900s, we were very, very careful about how many immigrants we took in and what
26:32kind of skill sets. Somehow that just went crazy by the time we got to
26:37the 1970s, 80s, and, of course, it just blew apart under Biden.
26:42So, the important thing is that we control our borders and that we do it
26:48in the best interest of the United States.
26:50I would just say one thing.
26:52I agree with you, but I would just say one thing is that with an
26:56AI revolution that we're undergoing, the need for workers is not what it was even
27:0210 years ago. And we have an immigration system built in the 20th century for
27:06the 20th century. And increasingly, Republican voters have said, we want more restrictions.
27:12Muslim immigration. Muslim immigration. Muslim immigration.
27:14Muslim immigration. being a number one topic.
27:15They don't want Sharia law.
27:16They're incredibly worried about it.
27:18Look what's happening in Texas.
27:19Who would have thought that would happen 20 years ago.
27:21I think the demands for restriction are very high, and the push from the Chamber
27:30of Commerce is always listening on the back of it.
27:34Louisiana is famously an energy state.
27:36Oil produced here, gas, natural gas.
27:40Would you support, and it's just an idea of coming to my head, recently, especially
27:44with a need for more electricity, nuclear energy being built in the United States and
27:48Louisiana? Oh, absolutely. There's some amazing breakthroughs in nuclear energy.
27:53Number one, these micro -reactors, a small reactor that can apparently run an entire city.
28:02Remember, both as a former member of the United States Navy, I was a physician
28:10in the Navy, but also as a congressman, I've spent a fair amount of time
28:14on board aircraft carriers. An aircraft carrier, which is a floating city, usually about 5
28:22,000 people, you have a nuclear reactor there that powers everything on that ship.
28:28And do you know how often you have to change out the nuclear rods and
28:36so forth? once every 25 years.
28:40In fact, an aircraft carrier will last 50 years with only one refueling for the
28:47entire period of time. And so, there's a lot of amazing things we can do
28:54with nuclear energy. It's safe.
28:56We don't have the Three Mile Islands anymore.
29:00That just doesn't happen under current technology.
29:02And also, we can reuse spent fuel.
29:06There's actually technology to do that.
29:08So, I think it's inevitable.
29:10Wind and solar is going by the wayside.
29:14It just doesn't work. We just don't have the breakthroughs in science that make that
29:19function. But, there's just so many possibilities with nuclear energy.
29:23Yeah, France is powered entirely by nuclear energy.
29:26And if France can do it, I don't understand why we can't.
29:29And Louisiana is an energy state.
29:31I think Louisiana could produce new forms of energy.
29:34Speaking of last, my last question is related to Louisiana.
29:37Louisiana is currently building the largest AI data center in the country.
29:43AI is, people have enormous amounts of anxiety about AI, about the idea of taking
29:49jobs. And every once in a while, you'll have an AI CEO go, well, there's
29:53a one in four chance that this will exterminate human life.
29:56That's a big number. Why?
29:58Do you support any regulation over AI right now?
30:04Oh, absolutely. Yes, we need regulation.
30:07No question about it. What kinds?
30:10Well, first of all, they've done some studies and even people who create certain forms
30:17of AI have said that if this were unleashed on society, that it could actually
30:23make some very bad decisions.
30:25So I think we have to limit what the control is.
30:29For instance, I don't think we should put AI in control of our nuclear enterprise.
30:35We might end up with a nuclear launch without even trying.
30:39So there are just certain things.
30:42AI should always be a helper, not the decision maker for things, even though it
30:48may be capable of doing that.
30:50So I think it's like any new technology.
30:53Yes, it will destroy some jobs, but oftentimes creates more and hopefully it'll increase productivity,
31:02which means it requires fewer workers and yet society in general and the people who
31:09do work will actually be more productive and have a better job and a better
31:17paying job. Remember that demographically we're losing workers, a net on workers, because our birth
31:24rates, we have a negative fertility rate in this country and that's one of the
31:29reasons why... I cover my podcast all the time.
31:31Yeah, I do all that.
31:33One of the reasons why we have immigration is because we really don't have enough
31:38workers in certain fields. So AI could make us could make up for that and
31:46we can get more done with fewer workers and then benefit more people.
31:51So I tend to be an optimist.
31:53I don't know of any technological breakthrough that we've had over the last 500 years
31:57that we would look back and say, you know, we ought to quit making cars
32:02and let's go back to horses and buggies.
32:06You know, let's get rid of our laptop computers.
32:08Let's go back to regular landlines.
32:11You just don't ever hear anybody say that.
32:13And so I think if done right and with the proper regulations, I think AI
32:18is going to be fine.
32:19But like any other technology, there are some downsides.
32:23We've got to be very careful about this.
32:25One thing I fear aside from mass job loss is we're going to continue one
32:29million workers per year coming into the country and AI and then we'll have unemployed
32:34immigrants on top of unemployed Americans.
32:36Yes. When is the primary election in Louisiana?
32:40It's May 16th. However, mail -in ballots have already been sent.
32:46People are already sending those back in.
32:49And early voting begins May 2nd.
32:52Well, I will give you credit.
32:54You are the hardest working candidate in this race, and you are definitely the most
32:58conservative candidate in this race.
32:59So absolutely, if you are a conservative in Louisiana, John Fleming is your man.
33:05Thank you for coming to this podcast.
33:07Where do we go? What website, social media account can people read more about you?
33:10Well, the website is FlemingSenateCampaign .com, FlemingSenateCampaign .com.
33:18And I give you credit.
33:20When I saw you working with voters, you were taking questions on one issue after
33:25the other that was very varied and different, and you were very responsive.
33:29I was very impressed with your ability to do retail politics.
33:32So good luck to you.
33:34May 16th is the primary, and if you're a conservative in Louisiana, John Fleming is
33:38your candidate. Thank you for coming to this podcast.
33:39I appreciate it. Thank you, my friend.
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34:12T's and C's apply. Now it's time for the Ask Me Anything segment.
34:17If you want to be part of the Ask Me Anything segment, email me ryan
34:19at numbersgamepodcast .com. Ryan, plural numbersgamepodcast .com.
34:24I'm low on my emails.
34:25I have a few. I will get to them probably throughout the end of the
34:28week, if not beginning of next week.
34:29So if you want to email me a question, I actually have capacity now to
34:32answer them. I'm not backlogged.
34:34So send them away. I'm looking forward to them.
34:37Okay. Question for today also comes from a man named Ryan.
34:40He says, your boy Ryan here, obviously we know the Dignity Act is complete BS.
34:45I'm going to make it clean, Ryan, for the audience because I'm trying to run
34:49a clean show. Question though, if this passed and if someone applied, they didn't meet
34:54the criteria to get quote unquote dignity, does that mean that they are okay to
34:58abort this person? We know the answer is no, but haven't heard that yet.
35:02Okay, Ryan. So one, this bill is nowhere near passing, right?
35:07Doesn't have a Senate bill to work with it.
35:11Salazar puts this bill up every single time.
35:13This is just the most support that she's ever had from the Republican side of
35:1620 members, many of whom are retiring.
35:19Bacon's retiring. Neal's retiring. There's a handful of other ones who are retiring or they're
35:25non -voting members like Guam is on there.
35:29So that's that. The reason I started this PAC is what infuriates me is that
35:33Mike Kelly and Marlon Stutzman and Republicans in super Trump districts with no big illegal
35:40alien population are doing this for corporations.
35:43That actually infuriates me. And that's why I'm doing this PAC.
35:46But there are a handful that are in super Republican districts that should not have
35:51signed on such a bill.
35:53So what the bill is, if they apply, they cannot be deported while the application
35:57is active. Who knows? Lawler and Salazar are saying that it's up to DHS to
36:05figure out the application process.
36:07They're going to be overwhelmed.
36:08It's going to take several years to get through all these applications.
36:11And while the application is in limbo, no, they cannot be deported.
36:15It's in the bill. What they're going to do afterwards is they're going to try
36:20to appeal to a court, a liberal judge right after that.
36:23Now, that says they don't get the appeal if they were here in the incorrect
36:26period of time or if they belong to a gang.
36:30They're going to appeal. They're going to make the appeal.
36:32And if Democrats control the White House, the presidency, the Senate before them, they're all
36:36just going to get amnesty anyway.
36:37I was in a conversation with a congressman who was arguing with me about the
36:41bill, supportive of the bill, and said, but, Ryan, Democrats are going to give them
36:46amnesty if they get citizenship.
36:47And I said, do you think they're not going to do that because you gave
36:50them the Dignity Act? The problem is not that we don't have enough laws in
36:55the books. Yeah, E -Verify would be great.
36:57Yeah, reforming our asylum cases would be great where we don't have to take people
37:01on our soil. All that stuff would be great.
37:04There are things Congress can do.
37:06It's minimal, right? It's not a question if there's laws on the books.
37:11In the 90s, there was a congressman, a Democrat congressman named Barbara Jordan.
37:15She was the first black woman elected to Texas.
37:17She did a commission on, I think it was a commission actually on income for
37:23low -income people. And she found the number one thing that was weighing people down
37:28was immigration, legal and illegal.
37:30And she brought a bill to Congress, to President Clinton, to say, okay, let's revise
37:37our immigration policy, no more illegal immigration, and let's reduce legal immigration.
37:41And it was Republicans in the House that fought tooth and nail to keep high
37:47levels of legal immigration because they were owned by the corporate lobby going back then.
37:52Bill Clinton would have actually signed anything they gave her at that point.
37:55Bill Clinton would have gone along and done a massive immigration reduction.
37:58It's one of the great misses of Congress and the presidency.
38:02That, Social Security reform, like the chance we've had to really fix our country, that
38:06was one of the big, big misses in our...
38:09in history. But they gave in on illegal immigration.
38:12They said, let's give Barbara Jordan something.
38:14So they enabled the president to do all sorts of things when it came to
38:18enforcing immigration law. Clinton signed the bill, but didn't enforce the law.
38:22Neither did Bush. Neither did Obama.
38:24Trump is the first one, especially in the second term, to really enforce the law.
38:28So if a Democrat president comes into office, it doesn't matter what you write.
38:33It's only under the discretion of the executive branch to enforce the law.
38:38If we have another Mayorkas as the head of DHS, he's going to let anyone
38:43in anyway. They're not going to enforce any of the laws.
38:45I don't care if you sign e -verify or anything like that.
38:47It's all about enforcement. The laws are on the books.
38:50There's very little. There's some stuff for Congress to do, but there is very little
38:55overall. Most of it is depending on the presidency.
38:59And it is at this time that you cannot give up because the people who
39:03see this and who advertising that America is going to get amnesty are the cartels,
39:08are the human smugglers, are people bringing other people to this country who are making
39:13billions from it. You are enabling and enriching them.
39:17It is disgusting. I know this is not the question, but that is the truth.
39:24You are enriching the worst segments of society, of any society in the entire world,
39:30human smugglers. That's the point.
39:32So, no, they won't get deportation while it's being applied.
39:35They're apparently under, they'll be under review for deportation at the end.
39:39Remember, this law also allows them to have a government paid lawyer.
39:42I'm sure they're going to apply, going to appeal.
39:45They'll find a liberal judge who will throw a lot of those restrictions out and
39:48we'll have, you know, 20 million people who are legally here, but not allowed to
39:53vote, which I'm sure they're going to be ruling as, you know, something, something will
39:58be wrong, but we'll be talking about how we're taking advantage of these people and
40:01they just need full citizenship and Democrats will give it to them no matter what.
40:05That's why I made this pack, homelandpack .com, pack, P -A -C -P -A -C,
40:09check it out. Okay, that's this episode, guys.
40:12Appreciate you all for listening.
40:13I'll be back Friday. We are going to be talking about Virginia.
40:16It is a closer race than people expect.
40:19I have an expert, a data nerd with me to talk about that.
40:23Check it out. That's coming out on Friday.
40:24I will talk to you guys then.
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