Hour 1 - Between Iran and a Hard Place

4/7/202637 mincomplete

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0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome in, everybody, to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

0:08Sexton show. Much to discuss with all of you.

0:12We have, of course, the deadline of 8 Eastern time tonight for Iran.

0:18They either concede to the Trump administration demands or Trump will unleash hell.

0:27In fact, what he has said more specifically is he is going to, well, go

0:35after them in a very big way, including civilian infrastructure, things like power.

0:41So he is turning up the heat considerably for the regime to open the strait

0:47and concede to demands about the nuclear program.

0:50We will discuss that, of course, today, get into some of those details.

0:54J .D. Vance in Hungary, a place that has gotten a lot of attention in

0:59conservative circles for years now because it is a country, under the Orban government, at

1:05least, that had taken on some particularly social conservative policies in the past.

1:11We'll have some highlights of what J .D.

1:14said there. And we've also got some updates on the Artemis II program, talking about

1:20the spaceship, or we call it a shuttle, I guess, a ship.

1:24It's both, really. Yeah, either one works.

1:27It's a ship. It's not a UFO.

1:28It's a spaceship. It's a shuttle.

1:30That works. We'll talk about Artemis II, what that means, and the future of space

1:35exploration and space commercialization. But something that I just wanted to throw into the mix

1:41yesterday, Trump revealed, we didn't get to this.

1:45This is cut six. Clay, before we talk about where this is all going with

1:49Iran, I feel like the whole world, in a sense, is waiting to see what

1:53happens with this negotiation. There's a big red line that Trump has drawn here.

1:59But in advance of that, something we didn't get to yesterday, we wanted to, this

2:03is cut six. Trump said that Kim Jong -un had a very particular word that

2:08he used for Joe Biden.

2:11This is cut six. Listen to this.

2:13To protect them from North Korea, we have 45 ,000 soldiers in South Korea to

2:20protect us from Kim Jong -un, who I get along with very well, as you

2:23know. Do you notice he said very nice things about me?

2:26He used to call Joe Biden a mentally retarded person, okay?

2:30So don't tell me about your stuff.

2:33Joe Biden, he said he's a mentally retarded person.

2:36He was so nasty to Joe Biden.

2:38It was terrible. But to me, he likes Trump.

2:40And do you notice how nice things are with North Korea?

2:43It's very nice. Clay, so put aside what one thinks of Kim Jong -un saying

2:51this about Biden. And I would say this, most people that I speak to and

2:55that I see weighing in on this Iran war, they really are just, their faith

3:00is in Trump to bring it across the finish line and end this thing before

3:04there's a lot of downside that we feel in this country and our allies feel.

3:11A lot more than what we've already witnessed, for sure.

3:14And it's worth noting that Joe Biden was the commander in chief, at least technically,

3:18for four years. Somebody not of sound mind and completely incapable and not even intelligent

3:25particularly at all before his dementia set in.

3:29So I think this is one way of saying you can trust in Trump on

3:33this one and see how he brings this thing through.

3:37Yeah, look, first of all, I didn't think they would have the gall anyone to

3:42say, oh, we've got a 25th Amendment him now after for four years.

3:46They let Joe Biden bumble and stumble his way around and were even willing to

3:51accede to his ability to run for reelection, which is even crazier.

3:56Look, Trump is bombastic. He is often outrageous in many of his public pronouncements on

4:05social media. I thought we were past the point, Buck, of people losing their minds

4:12over Trump's social media posts, but evidently we are not.

4:16And so he threatened and has set an 8 p .m.

4:20deadline. And as part of that deadline, he is basically threatened to end the civilization

4:26of Iran. The quote, this is what I was looking for.

4:29Trump warns Iran, quote, whole civilization will die, end quote, if deadline not met.

4:36That's pretty intense. That's intense, but it's also very Trumpian.

4:39And so, look, Trump is going to, I believe, take this aggressively in the up

4:50to and including potentially extending this deadline.

4:53We will see. I think we are going to get some form of resolution sooner

4:58rather than later because I think Trump has decided that he is in favor of

5:06getting the straight -up form moves open and believes that he can negotiate with the

5:09existing Iranian leaders. I think that's where his game plan is.

5:13And he is trying to, in the meantime, extract the maximum amount of negotiating leverage

5:20that he can. And he knows that all of the Iranians monitor.

5:24every single thing that he says on social media and that's what this story is

5:29so I just sometimes buck um am befuddled I would understand if this were still

5:352016 and Trump had only been a political figure for a year and people were

5:40still trying to grapple and and and and figure out exactly what the uh what

5:45the intent of these messages is but the intent is quite clear it is that

5:50he is going to try to get maximum negotiation leverage now the argument I think

5:57you can make against this is not that Trump is going to suddenly start nuclear

6:01war or something like that it's that by making all of these outlandish threats that

6:08he actually doesn't gain that much negotiating leverage or as much as he thinks he

6:15does because he's been doing it for a decade now that's to me the the

6:19counter I don't I don't see Iran bending the knee right now over this I

6:27just don't see it happening that's just my prediction I could be wrong uh they've

6:31gotten at some point I think the regime feels like well what do we have

6:35left to lose uh and I think the answer is they aren't there they think

6:40that they are in a backed into a corner and do anything they can now

6:45to and they'll suffer through anything they have already rejected yesterday a temporary ceasefire that

6:53was offered if they would just open the Strait of Hormuz and the Iranians clay

6:59this has been in every analysis whether you're writing a grad school paper or you're

7:04in the you know most deep dark bowels of the Pentagon uh strategy files everyone

7:10knows the Strait of Hormuz is a strategic choke point for global oil uh and

7:15and that's just that's what Iran has been really holding over the world for a

7:20long time more than anything else more more even I think in some ways than

7:24the threat of a nuclear program uh because it's all we we know they can

7:28do this and we know that this is something that can start to have major

7:32economic impact so Iran said no to that and now the the Iranian regime to

7:38the degree that we can get insight into this uh the state of the negotiations

7:44they want a permanent ceasefire they want full sanctions relief and they are not willing

7:49to make any nuclear or other concessions so the Iranians are taking a pretty hard

7:54line negotiating posture in at this point in response to where we are um you

8:03know hitting critical infrastructure if that is where Trump goes with this when he said

8:08like we're gonna what is it just you know uh annihilate your civilization or something

8:12like that that can actually backfire on you a bit because they're then the people

8:17of Iran start to say well hold on a second why are we all being

8:22punished they know it's not us uh that's a consideration that I know that Trump

8:26and the team have but it's a it's a big one to to work through

8:30yeah look I mean the quote is a whole civilization will die tonight um which

8:35is so cinematic and uh and apocalyptic I read that as I will kill a

8:43lot of the Iranian leaders and you should be aware that your civilization is going

8:49to cease to exist meaning the way that you run Iran is going to cease

8:53to exist regardless the goal is to terrify people in Iran that are still in

9:00power that if they are uh in any way um uh recalcitrant when it comes

9:07to negotiating with President Trump that there will be consequences um and look what did

9:13we say Buck um a couple weeks ago to me the off -ramp here is

9:19the challenging part I don't think there's any doubt that we have severely curtailed and

9:24diminished Iran's ability to in any way inflict harm upon anyone in the Middle East

9:30or around the world I I think you would have to be a moron to

9:34argue against that so the question is to what extent is there an off -ramp

9:40here where Trump can claim hey we have reached a uh resolution we've reached a

9:47cinematic conclusion in a way that he is able to declare victory and walk away

9:53to that to me that is the question of what is what is that off

9:57-ramp what what to him is a victory that he can claim the Strait of

10:02Hormuz being reopened obviously is a very tangible one the price of oil and gas

10:06would drop overnight probably thirty dollars um and get us back down close to where

10:12we were before this all started um so I don't know that Iran to your

10:16point is willing to give that at this point so what kind of negotiating victory

10:23is out there on the table that the president can take by the way Trump

10:27is very good at going out and claiming victory even when it's not necessarily a

10:34uh a transcendent victory right so I I think there are probably off -ramps that

10:40Trump can take that would allow him to say we have changed our objectives now

10:45it's time to ramp down everything that's been going on in Iran well what he

10:49really wants is this straight to reopen which has been made clear by his truth

10:53social posts and everybody can see that and and that's because of the economic impact

10:58on the global oil markets which has an enormous uh possibility at least of affecting

11:05domestic politics here at home in an election year because remember the price shock can

11:10be a little delayed from all of this too i know we're seeing prices rise

11:13already but it could be there are things uh like you know amazon i think

11:19is even raising its prices on some vendors because of the increase in oil right

11:24for yes doing fulfillment for them and and products 50 percent of oil globally something

11:32like 50 percent is not used to go into vehicles and for transport it's actually

11:36used in products so a lot of things that you buy are petroleum -based products

11:41and those prices uh over time will also rise from all this so this is

11:46this is about iran trying to use economic pain as its leverage to get trump

11:53to back off and trump just continuing to pound the iranian military and let's be

12:00honest the iranian infrastructure now uh if that's what he does tonight and say have

12:06you had enough have you had enough punishment i'm not sure that the answer to

12:12that clay is going to be yes yeah these people are wacko i mean the

12:16ones calling the shots here they're they're i know we've said oh we've taken out

12:20so much of their leadership yeah but even the second rung of leadership there it's

12:25not good well they're kind of in a tough spot right because if you are

12:29too conciliatory with the united states at this point you might get killed in iran

12:34right so you're talking about between iraq and a hard place if you're too aggressive

12:39with the u .s we take you out if you're too conciliatory with the u

12:43.s then iran takes you out so you you want to talk about the delicate

12:48dance that iranian leadership that is trying to govern this country has to follow right

12:52now that is uh quite difficult i think i think right now the if there's

12:57an 11th hour deal which we are we are now less than eight hours away

13:01from the deadline hitting here if there's an 11 hour 11th hour deal clay i

13:06think it will be iran has agreed to a temporary ceasefire and the opening of

13:10the strait with nuclear negotiations and other concessions to follow and that would be what

13:16it looks it will not be an ad they will not do an abject surrender

13:19but if they give trump the strait of hormuz that will be enough to avoid

13:24the end of their civilization strike that is supposed to come tonight yeah i would

13:29also say the strait of hormuz can be a trust but verify situation that's very

13:34easy to test if iran says the strait of hormuz is open now we're going

13:39to allow transit and it doesn't occur then you have a pretty good sign that

13:44you've been lied to there is an easy test scenario now the challenge is you

13:48have to convince some of the ship owners that have loaded up their ships with

13:54oil i'll be buck would you want to be on one of those ships right

13:56now would you want to be in the strait of hormuz on a completely like

14:01millions of barrels a very a very large personal check to me to get me

14:07to go ride on one of those might be a little hard to sleep uh

14:10if you're uh on the in the strait of hormuz also being on an oil

14:13tanker that got that gets hit by a missile would be a really that's a

14:17really bad place to be no even if it you know even if it's not

14:20like immediate catastrophic damage which i could be uh you wouldn't want to have that

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19:00welcome back into play and buck so we got the big deadline tonight this is

19:06heavy stuff everybody we have blown up thousands and thousands of targets inside of iran

19:14uh have completely uh taken out their main their navy uh their air defense who

19:25knows how many ground unit targets we've hit i mean the pentagon does but it's

19:32a lot uh the the i believe they used some chinese made essentially shoulder fire

19:40man pads man pad i know a lot of your military you know better than

19:43i do but for anyone else man portable air defense system with a little shoulder

19:48fired rocket think a little bit like the stinger missiles from charlie wilson's war made

19:52them really famous i think they took down um one of our planes with a

19:58man pad so there's a lot of those that they've deployed as a additional tier

20:04of air defense but that's that's not what we were initially worried about initially it

20:09would have been things like the russian what the s -300 s -500 uh surface

20:13-to -air missile systems those are those are all gone basically we've taken all those

20:17out we have total air dominance and get hit whatever targets including this is where

20:22clay it has been additionally impressive uh fearsome and impressive which is the ability to

20:29find and take out their human uh you know senior human targets uh you know

20:35taking people off the battlefield here who are in the military chain of command the

20:40political chain of command there due to do so seemingly at will certainly in the

20:44early days of the conflict i mean that initial strike which really just decapitated the

20:48iranian regime's senior leadership in in one fell swoop was it's an incredible hit and

20:56so all that's gone on but but now what is the huge question we have

21:00this deadline looming and democrats are already smelling blood in the water on this whole

21:05thing politically they they they just want trump gone and i want to say this

21:09clay we're going to talk about this a lot so i don't want to divert

21:11this but if you want away on this too of course by all means man

21:15guys when the democrats get any power back you're it's gonna they're gonna go completely

21:19insane just be prepared i just want you to be prepared for that now maybe

21:22it's the midterms maybe it's not maybe it's the 28 election but whenever you have

21:28democrats that have some real power again good lord they are going to be insane

21:34and and they're going to settle scores and they're going to be vicious so just

21:37we all need to get prepared for that reality right i mean i i think

21:40we're we're going to be if you think that uh that trump has been aggressive

21:48on his critics and by the way hardly anything's happened to any of them uh

21:54democrats don't make threats they actually take action uh they were willing to just talk

22:00to all the non -violent j6 people yes yes i mean they they put thousands

22:06of people in prison uh for what was the total number i mean like over

22:11a thousand j6ers went to prison didn't they yeah and some of them were kept

22:15in solitary confinement for years years we used to have julie kelly on talking about

22:22this all the time who is a trump critic that has had anything at all

22:28other than better media access like every time trump comes after anybody they make more

22:36money and they get they become like a superstar on the left i mean jimmy

22:42kimmel uh the don lemon i mean nothing happens to any of these guys i

22:47i support i support the trump 24 agenda with with everything i got and so

22:53does clay and he really every it was so what was needed in the moment

22:58and such an enormous political win but now we're in it my friends now we're

23:03in the game so to speak and it's not a game it's deadly serious but

23:06we're in the midst of the execution phase of the trump agenda and there's been

23:11some really good stuff but you know don't make christy noem head of dhs and

23:16don't make pam bondy the head of the department of justice okay people are asking

23:19me i i get this all the time when are the you know the so

23:23-and -so prosecutions going to start you know or when when is there going to

23:28be accountability for fill in something and i say that's a doj issue i you

23:34know i'm not the attorney general i think i probably would have been a better

23:37attorney general than pam bondy but put that aside i'm not the attorney i don't

23:40even have a law degree i'm not the attorney general clay neither are you this

23:45is this is why personnel is policy this is why it really matters who you

23:48have in charge now i do have a lot of faith in marco rubio and

23:52events i think have have bolstered and supported that i do have a lot of

23:57faith in in pete hegseth uh and some of the the other senior members of

24:03the trump team that are trying to figure out not just national security broadly but

24:07this issue of iran and what's going on here uh and we judge them by

24:12results though and we have to see what happens with this red line on the

24:15other side of things these democrats you got roe kanna i wanted to just mcclay

24:18you can react to this roe kanna says it's time this and this is what

24:22i meant about the the the lunacy of democrats when they're back in power it's

24:26just going to be everything we've seen before roe kanna says 25th amendment time for

24:31donald trump because of iran play 32 if the united states congress has any life

24:36left in it every member of congress and senator must be calling for trump's removal

24:40today based on the 25th amendment he's threatening the entire destruction of a civilization he

24:47is calling iranians animals he is showing a total disregard for the humanity of people

24:54in iran and gaza in cuba this is a moral crime it is a war

24:59crime we need to be demanding that congress convene today and we need to be

25:03invoking the 25th amendment real clay on the one hand on the one hand yes

25:08crazy talk and they're not going to invoke the 25th amendment is on the other

25:12hand democrats are going to bring war crime prosecutions against people in this administration i

25:18really do believe that i think they're going to if they can if they if

25:21they have the if they can you know run the if they can't run the

25:24clock out before it i think that they'll go after people i went off on

25:27this on jesse water show last night um i'm sorry anyone i i really thought

25:35buck that there would be too much shame to go 25th amendment again they went

25:4025th amendment in the first term for trump then joe biden was an actual uh

25:46dementia patient for four years we called it the weekend at bernie's presidency and they

25:51tried to run weekend at bernie's too and if you were in the democrat party

25:57and i think there was only one guy right the minnesota congressman that everybody forgot

26:02that ran for president against him and had the rally that nobody showed up for

26:06in new hampshire that was like which made us talk about it because we felt

26:09bad for him and i've already forgotten that guy's name he was the only democrat

26:13who said joe biden isn't up for being president of the united states roe connor

26:19didn't come out and say hey we've got a 25th amendment uh joe biden which

26:23probably in any of the lives of people listening today is the only time when

26:29the 25th amendment has really been justified trump just did an hour and 15 minute

26:35press conference yesterday answering questions from everybody under the sun now you may not agree

26:41with him this is what i was going to ask you buck uh so i

26:45i the any democrat who mentions the 25th amendment for trump i just immediately toss

26:50on the dumpster fire of stupidity and say i can't take anything you say seriously

26:55because you covered up for joe biden dean phillips wow phillips there's a throwback for

27:01you that dean if dean phillips wants to call for trump to be 25th amendmented

27:06i would not agree with him but i would at least say you know what

27:10you called out joe biden and said he wasn't up for the job and Now

27:15you're calling out Trump. At least there's some consistency there.

27:19Buck, other than, we've now got, what, six, we've got ten full years of Trump

27:24as a political figure, ten years plus, and we've got now going on six years

27:30of him in office. Other than, other than what, like the immediate aftermath of COVID

27:37coming, right? March, we're going to have the whatever number of days to stop the

27:41spread, and Trump eventually righted that wrong.

27:45Can you think of anything that Trump has done that has been truly, consequentially wrong

27:52for the country? I mean, as an executive making choices.

27:56I'm not saying you agree with everything that he did, but you go back, most

28:00people would go back now and say, hey, the Iraq war was a mistake, George

28:04W. Bush, we shouldn't have spent trillions of dollars on that.

28:07I think almost everybody would have.

28:08Other than the immediate response to COVID back in March of 2020, in nearly six

28:14years, is there anything you can point to and say, you know, you might not

28:18like a higher, but that Trump 100 % got wrong?

28:22Other than early COVID, I can't.

28:24On policy, not only has he been, on important policy, not only has Trump been

28:29consistently right and proven right by events, he's been right even when he has gone,

28:35and maybe more so than ever, when he has gone against GOP orthodoxy, like on

28:42the trade issue, for example.

28:44That's a perfect, I think, or on renegotiating, well, this is tied into trade, but

28:48renegotiating NAFTA, which a lot of Republicans, oh, I can't do that.

28:53No, he was right. He was right, and they were wrong.

28:55Oh, you can't agitate China.

28:57No, he was right, and they were wrong.

28:58So on those things, Trump's biggest mistakes, I think, have been, and he admits this.

29:03So anyone who's like, don't you dare, no, Trump knows this.

29:06His biggest mistakes, term one, were personnel related, and his personnel has gotten a lot

29:12better, but I think because of the four prosecutions that he faced, and all the

29:16people who really turned on him, loyalty was even more elevated in his mind as

29:22necessary for his agenda in the second term, and some of that, I think, unfortunately,

29:28was not lined up with key competence at the highest level.

29:32And this is why he's removing people.

29:34By the way, I completely disagree with anyone who's saying, oh, I mean, well, no

29:38one's really saying that about DHS anymore.

29:40That's actually a sad situation with Noam.

29:42It's a sad situation. My feelings about Noam's public life are known to everyone on

29:48this show. Some of us see things before they happen, but that's okay.

29:53But I actually feel badly now because of the personal dynamic and everything else.

29:56Pam Bondi, I think, from I don't know her, seems just like a lovely person

30:01and a patriot and great.

30:03I just think you needed a pit bull at the top of DOJ.

30:06You needed a pit bull.

30:08You know, she's like a lovely golden retriever.

30:13I love golden retrievers. I just don't want a golden retriever running DOJ.

30:17I think that's well said.

30:18I would just add this on the Bondi front.

30:21You can have a golden retriever as the front -facing object of the administration to

30:29me for the DOJ, for instance, but you have to be the best damn communicator

30:34on the planet. And she wasn't good at that, right?

30:37And then you have pit bulls underneath that are actually tearing asunder.

30:41Yeah, the number two, wags.

30:41You need a wags. Yes.

30:43But she wasn't even a good communicator.

30:46That was what was super frustrating to me about her tenure with the DOJ.

30:51She created a lot of messes.

30:55And look, I mean, you've got to break a lot of things inside of the

31:00DOJ. Yeah. And you needed to be willing to mobilize quickly and handle these things

31:08efficiently. Getting it right, but getting it right last or getting it right too late,

31:12not good enough in this.

31:14Guys, it's April. We're running out of time.

31:16Here's the other thing about lawyers, and I say this as a lawyer.

31:19They may have political opinions, but they're all cashing big checks.

31:24And really, it's one big club.

31:26I mean, they're making thousands of dollars an hour.

31:29And you might ostensibly be a Republican and you might ostensibly be a Democrat, but

31:34there's a lot of cross -pollination there.

31:37And both sides are getting really rich.

31:39This is where Trump got the swamp, right?

31:41And I don't think, this is my opinion as a lawyer, I don't think there

31:46are very many lawyers that actually really want to draw too much attention to themselves.

31:52They want to be able to go across both party lines because they don't know

31:57who's going to be president.

31:59Four years in Washington is the snap of a fingers, and some of you recognize

32:03this now, the older you get.

32:06I mean, Buck, this is where I know you make fun of kings and everything

32:09else, but I would argue one of the biggest challenges we have in this country

32:13is eight years, it's hard to fix a lot.

32:17Even if you have a truly excellent president, eight years passes in the blink of

32:22an eye. Seems like a long time when you're a kid.

32:24Seems like a long time when you're a teenager.

32:26You get into your 30s, 40s, and 50s, and beyond.

32:30Eight years, like, you look over your shoulder and the time has passed.

32:33And I think one of the things Trump is trying to do is he recognizes

32:37how little time he has left in office, and he's trying to fix everything, whether

32:41it's the structure. of the white house or who's in charge in iran venezuela and

32:46cuba if anything his sin is overreach trying to fix so much because he's concerned

32:52that we're going to get another joe biden like figure back in the white house

32:56at some point in the future and he's trying to go ahead and correct all

32:59the issues that he saw from biden but that he knows they're going to follow

33:03him inevitably that's that's what i think i think it's overreach trying to fix too

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34:15welcome back in clay travis buck sexton show callers 800 -282 -2882 i will get

34:22to you at the top of the next hour so if you are listening to

34:26us right now i can see the topics good questions from utah from ohio from

34:31florida among others we will get to those uh when we come back at the

34:36top of the next hour so hang with me and i will go to you

34:39at the top of the next hour in the meantime uh one of our listeners

34:42in salt lake city he's got a question um that a lot of people have

34:48been asking and i wanted to play it for you cut d listen how come

34:52trump doesn't just take over the strait and the oil supply as well he talked

35:00about it a long time ago with that interview with barbara long walters or whatnot

35:04and uh he said you just take the oil why don't you just take take

35:10it take it over okay this is a question i bet you have gotten quite

35:14a lot too buck the biggest issue with the strait of hormuz and with having

35:19uh ships that are helping to provide uh security it only takes a drone or

35:26someone with a rocket launcher someone with i mean one individual can blow up an

35:32oil tanker uh potentially uh and even if you have great security it's hard to

35:39stop one person who could launch a drone or a rocket launcher or something of

35:43that nature or or you could just fill a a you know small motorboat yes

35:50with basically the uss coal routine uh where you fill a small boat with as

35:56much dum -dum explosive as you possibly can and then you just have the guy

36:01go full alahu akbar pull the pin on the grenade and kaboom so yeah it's

36:06not hard to do so i think the answer is the the concept of providing

36:11100 security to tankers is more difficult than it might sound now in order to

36:18take over oil and gas production in iran we would have to take karg island

36:22we would have to put boots on the ground and we'd have to invade it's

36:26called an invasion other than uh the saving of the uh the crewman who was

36:33on the ground we have not yet had any boots on the ground i would

36:37mention buck who didn't get a lot of attention but israel also put boots on

36:41the ground to help us rescue the american servicemen uh that is a pretty significant

36:47gesture on their behalf they put israeli lives on the line to save an american

36:52life it hasn't gotten very much attention but credit to them for that all right

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