Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 8 2026
4/8/202666 mincomplete
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0:10there is a lot of hours that we spend with all of you.
0:13It is the Wednesday edition of the program.
0:17And I will say, as a ceasefire has taken root in the Middle East, as
0:25I speak to you all presently, the stock market has surged.
0:30Oil and gas prices have collapsed.
0:32It's almost like if you listen to us and do not panic, you will end
0:37up doing better in your life.
0:39The S &P 500 up 2 .4%, a huge surge in that marketplace.
0:46Dow up 2 .7 % as we are talking, 1 ,245 points at the present
0:52day. Needless to say, days when the stock market goes up over 1 ,000 points
0:58are relatively rare. Days when the stock market surges like this are not common.
1:03The price of oil and gas, as I speak to all of you, dropping $18
1:07down some 15 % or so.
1:11Stocks soaring, oil sinking as a truce, a ceasefire, is underway in the Middle East.
1:20Now, Buck, as you can well imagine, we've got some cuts to play for you,
1:25but I saw Pete Hegg set this morning saying Iran needs to notify some of
1:29its people via carrier pigeon that they need to stop firing off drones and missiles.
1:34There are still issues in Lebanon.
1:36It's not as if the Middle East is usually very calm in the first place.
1:40So you are, it seems, filled with some measure of trepidation about how long the
1:45ceasefire might last, but for the moment, stocks soaring, oil collapsing, and now you can
1:53come tap dance on with some negativity after my one -and -a -half -minute positive
1:59open there. Thank you, and I'm glad that we represent both sides of the pro
2:05-Trump, pro -American, peace -in -the -Middle -East point of view, but a little bit
2:10of a variation here on my sense of it.
2:14First of all, I said yesterday they're going to just extend this thing, which is
2:17really what this is. This is an extension.
2:20Nothing has been agreed to that is lasting bonding.
2:24I mean, I know you meant ceasefire, and you said that, but this is not
2:28a truce. This is not a long -term agreement.
2:32This is a, we're going to stop pounding you from the air and try to
2:36talk to you about some things and see if you will come to your senses.
2:39Now, I view this, Clay, very much as a we'll see situation, but here's the
2:46downside, or here's my negative impulses about some of this.
2:50The Iran 10 -point deal that they've put forward via intermediaries in Pakistan is awful.
3:00It is unworkable. Their positions are, we get to keep nukes, we get control, and
3:07can take tolls on ships now in the Strait of Hormuz.
3:12America promises to stop attacking us, and Israel promises to stop attacking Hezbollah as well
3:17as us. I mean, you go down this list.
3:18Now, I understand this is a, as Trump says, a workable place to begin negotiations,
3:26but here is the fundamental problem, as I see it.
3:31This is now a race against the clock.
3:34This is basically the timeline that Trump had for the completion of this mission.
3:40And I thought, I said on the show, I think it'll be done by April
3:431st. Okay, it's April 8th.
3:45We aren't bombing them anymore.
3:46So, pretty darn close, because the politics here at home play a large part in
3:51this. Clay, I do not see a future in which Iran renounces its nuclear ambitions,
3:59agrees to true, and people say intrusive, but I mean, you know, real nuclear inspections,
4:06gives up its highly enriched uranium, and if anything, I think the Iranian regime that
4:13is in place views this as a, okay, you hit us with your best shot,
4:18and we are still standing.
4:20I think the Iranians believe that we, for political reasons, and that's not even really
4:25the right term, the American people will not go along with a sustained ground invasion
4:30of Iran, and I would agree with that sentiment, I might add.
4:33So, that's not on the table.
4:35The American people do not want high gas prices, and that means that Republicans are
4:40going to start pressuring Trump if we go back to bombing them.
4:42We have a delay here in the campaign.
4:46Does anyone really, I mean, I'll ask you this, do you think in two weeks
4:50we're going to have a real agreement with Iran that they can be held to
4:54and that we have faith in and that ends this thing?
4:57I have, and then what do we do?
4:59We start bombing them again?
5:01Yeah. Well, then they shut the strait.
5:03The strait of our moves is a real choke point.
5:05This is a real problem.
5:06Sorry. Go ahead. No, no, I think the question you're asking is the one that
5:10is the next step here.
5:11How much is this going to hold?
5:16And already there's disputes over what can happen in Lebanon and all these different aspects
5:22of Israeli action because Israel has been very active in northern israel southern lebanon um
5:29i think what's going to end up happening is there will be flashpoints uh on
5:34this for probably the next six months um between now and the end of the
5:39year and you mean flashpoints do you mean things going boom in iran or do
5:43you mean mean words in the diplomatic i think things going boom in iran i
5:47think we'll probably scramble jets and go hit some more targets at some point in
5:51time to demonstrate that there has to be some uh some tacit relationship and agreement
5:57um we i just at the after that though is there some does iran finally
6:04bend the knee and agree to trump's terms i think the answer is no there's
6:1015 demands from our side there's 10 demands from their side and the two demanding
6:17lists are uh in direct as far apart is this is like i want a
6:22million dollars for my house i'll give you five bucks that's where we are here
6:25is what i thought was the most interesting about this um first of all who
6:31was attributed to making the decision on iran's side it's the gay atola we don't
6:37even know if the gay atola can talk we don't know where you come up
6:41with this term is this a new term i i'm gonna roll with it i
6:45can pronounce that one well the the son of kamene the gay atola i'm not
6:52sure little mo little mo little mo i'm not sure if he's alive i'm not
6:56sure if he can speak but what i think he provides buck is a convenient
7:01repository for decision making that may meet makes it such that whoever is actually making
7:10the decision in iran is able to say oh no no that's not us if
7:14it's a little bit politically unpopular that is the supreme leader even if the supreme
7:20leader is unable to make decisions remember we still haven't heard his voice we still
7:23haven't seen a picture of him we still haven't seen a video of him uh
7:27there are just reports that he was significantly injured and so i want to push
7:31you on this a little bit i want to push you on this a little
7:32bit okay because i actually want your optimism and i'll be honest with you i
7:36think most of the most of our people with this right now they want your
7:39like they don't want what i'm selling but i just i can't lie um i
7:43don't think this is a disaster certainly in the market you're speaking that it's not
7:46a disaster right now and i think trump's going to walk away but if you're
7:49telling me if we're looking at what comes out of this campaign right what fundamentally
7:55we get from this versus what the iranians get and what we wanted from the
8:00outset do you believe at the end oh like make it the end of this
8:05by the end of this year has iran given up the enriched uranium has iran
8:09agreed to give up its nuclear pursuit and is iran no longer in a position
8:13to choke us at the strait of hormuz okay so let's go through the order
8:18they basically have no air force they have no navy they have very limited ability
8:24to engage in any sort of aggressive act we destroyed their military right their military
8:30is done um if you take at their word and i think this is likely
8:35true right now we have satellite observation on all of their fuel cells all their
8:42uranium deposits everything that would be used to construct construct a nuclear bomb and if
8:47iran makes any effort to go and try to retrieve that which appears to be
8:51significantly buried under lots of topsoil based on attacks uh we would take action as
8:57we see fit so i think getting to the uranium enriching it all those things
9:02are going to be very difficult so i think we have effectively neutered iran's ability
9:06to impact in a significant way action in the middle east what i think is
9:11the most significant factor right now is who is making decisions and can we trust
9:16them to what extent do we believe remember go back in the early days of
9:21venezuela buck when delcy rodriguez came out and said oh they're still the american infidels
9:27and and then she's saying publicly one thing but privately she's basically doing whatever we
9:33want and we're not talking about venezuela in a significant way does someone have the
9:38sway in iran i don't care what they say about publicly in our country i
9:42don't care if they show up and they throw their fist in the air and
9:44they chant death to america privately are they being rational and negotiating with us in
9:50a productive way and does the person who we are negotiating with to your point
9:55buck actually have the wherewithal to control action in iran because it doesn't take much
10:02to blow up one of these fuel tankers and so if there are competing factions
10:06inside of iran to what extent is the leader able to actually lead and control
10:12what people in the country are doing we did this and there's a very detailed
10:16new york times piece take it for what it's worth whether you think they believe
10:19it or not but it a lot of it reads like what you would expect
10:22it to read like uh taking you inside some of those meetings i read this
10:27article too sometimes new york times articles read like fiction this to you and you've
10:31been in the rooms but this read like an accurate telling of what the debates
10:35surrounding this war would be yes it it sounds like somebody who was it sounds
10:39to me like somebody who was in the room told them now whenever someone does
10:44that of course they're usually the hero of the narrative and you know you could
10:47sort of piece some things together or they at least look the most astute um
10:51but i think the new york times piece largely aligns and i told you this
10:55at the time it talks about the little the op the idea of maybe getting
10:59the kurds involved which they say came from the israelis which i know from working
11:03the iraq issue for years was a complete non -starter and sure enough i was
11:07right but the fact that that came up or rather that the reporting is that
11:11that came up in the context of iran there were some pieces here that make
11:15me think that this is how it went down how their decision -making process uh
11:19was laid out but clay we keep going around that this war was fought to
11:26stop iran from ever being able to go nuclear now we're being told more that
11:33it was to stop iran's ballistic missile force okay they're going to be able to
11:40rebuild that they're going to be able to count on the oil flow to fund
11:46buying from the russians buying from the chinese etc military hardware to get them back
11:52to where they were so i i know that we're supposed to believe that the
11:56destruction of ballistic missile capability is like some fantastic victory it's a victory i'm not
12:00discounting it our military did incredible things i'm not encounter that uh discounting that either
12:04but at the end of this do we have either a different regime or a
12:11regime that agrees to the terms with which we could go forward and say iran
12:16is not a nuclear threat anymore i don't think the answer to either of those
12:20questions is yes and i just have to be honest about that i don't think
12:25that we're in we're in place with either of those things if the incentive structure
12:30as we have talked about on the program is for iran to get nuclear weapons
12:35because it strengthens the ability and people in positions of power to stay there without
12:39external forces being able to remove them as exists in north korea is there anything
12:44that could occur that would lead to iran not pursuing nuclear weapons well this is
12:51but this is my my concern here is that we hit them with everything we
12:55could from the air as they told us as secretary hegseth has told us when
12:59we annihilated them with everything we could from the air we got to a point
13:02where it was well now we're just going to blow up your power plants and
13:05your you know your water treatment facilities and everything else that was what trump was
13:08talking about okay well that's that's not a good thing like that's not something you
13:13really want to do to a country of 90 million people and if that's where
13:17we are for the next round of punishment i don't know that we have a
13:21stick big enough so to speak to beat them into submission to give us what
13:27we want at the end of this deal i think they're going to say to
13:29us fine hit us again we'll close the strait how long before your elections that's
13:34my concern clay i think they see what's going on here i understand that concern
13:39i think in the back of their mind every leader in iran knows that we
13:43can take them out and i'm working under the capacity that we believe we have
13:49reached for iran rational leadership that does have some control over the country we'll see
13:55i don't i don't think we do i don't think i don't think we have
13:57a different government i don't think we have different people in charge i think that
14:00that is that ship has sailed here is here is the test to what extent
14:04do any of these oil and tankers get blown up because if they get blown
14:10up then everyone purely economically is going to say we can't risk going through the
14:15strait of hormuz right now i don't think it's a rational act on iran's leadership's
14:20behalf to blow up oil and gas tankers right now but if they do either
14:25they are intransigent not working with us or they just don't have any control over
14:30the factions that are willing to do that if i'm like this the head of
14:33whatever's left of the irgc leadership clay and trump in two weeks blows up my
14:39power plants blows up civil truly civilian infrastructure yeah i blow up an oil tanker
14:45in the strait of hormuz like i make this the whole world's problem real fast
14:49so just looking at a bunch of them you could blow up a bunch of
14:53them and it would cost almost nothing in terms of the physical assets required to
14:57do so and and this is my friends this is a suicide bomber culture we're
15:03talking about here in the middle east like they're willing to take a lot of
15:05pain to take other people down so keep that in mind you know how the
15:09iranians used to clear minefields clay in the iran iraq war they had a special
15:14cadre of humans who would run to save tanks yeah the martyr brigades they would
15:23clear the minefields by walking on them and that's what we're dealing with everybody all
15:29right sorry buck is womp womp but i'll always tell you the truth i have
15:34my concerns i love trump i love this country i hope everything works out fantastically
15:38oil prices are dropping that's good but we're a long way from a victory dance
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16:40Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
16:43And something, Clay, I thought was really interesting.
16:46This New York Post report on, you see this?
16:51The CIA used a futuristic new tool called a ghost murmur to find and rescue
16:56the second American airman who was shot down in southern Iran, according to the New
17:01York Post here. Secret technology uses long -range quantum magnetometry to find the electromagnetic fingerprint
17:09of a human heartbeat and pairs the data with artificial intelligence software to isolate the
17:16signature from background noise. Again, according to the New York Post here.
17:22So, by the way, I wasn't even good at high school geometry.
17:29So, like, this is not what I had.
17:31I had nothing to do with any of this kind of stuff in the military
17:34-industrial complex in the agency.
17:36But just even reading that, and they're saying that Director Ratcliffe of the agency and
17:41President Trump alluded to it in the White House briefing on this.
17:45So, you know, they're feeling pretty confident in their reporting.
17:47Clay, I mean, that's... Just reading that's like, wow.
17:51Yeah. I've never heard of it.
17:53Obviously, if it's never been used before, I've never heard of this before.
17:55I have no idea. So, here, I was optimistic in the first hour about straight
18:01-up or moves everything else.
18:02This is something I'm actually pessimistic about, if you want me to go negative on
18:06this. I spend a lot of time thinking about what the world is going to
18:12be like, and it may happen sooner than we even think, when individual bad actors
18:19have access to drones that can be weaponized and are able to just send drones
18:29to blow things up. In other words, like, a lot of this audience has guns
18:34to protect our homes, right?
18:36Have weaponry, fences, all these different things to try to make us safer inside of
18:42our homes. Some people even have armed security, that is, patrolling homes.
18:46All these different things. Have you sat around and thought about, as we look at
18:52what's happening with Ukraine, where basically Ukraine -Russia is a drone war, we'll take some
18:57calls on this, but one issue on the Strait of Hormuz is, one weaponized drone,
19:03which can be deployed by one individual, can blow up an entire tanker ship.
19:09At some point in time, bad guys are going to get access to this drone
19:13technology, and I fear they're just going to be able to bomb random people's houses.
19:19In other words, right now, you're concerned an armed robber might show up at your
19:23house with a gun, and you're trying to think about ways to defend yourself.
19:28What happens at 2 a .m.
19:29when somebody just loads up a drone with a bomb and just flies it at
19:34your house because they don't like you?
19:36This is one of the things that I worry about because I think the technology
19:39is moving so rapidly, Buck, that it's inevitable that individual bad actors are going to
19:44get access to these weaponized drones and start to use them with impunity.
19:48That is scary to me.
19:51Yeah, the cartels have been doing this for some time.
19:53They've used drones, the Mexican drug cartels, they've used drones for not just surveillance, but
19:57even to drop, like, grenades, drop explosives on targets, enemies, law enforcement, whomever.
20:04We are not far from a...
20:08Well, the technology already exists.
20:10It's just a question of how long before you start to see...
20:13Because these drones are also going to get to the point where they have an
20:18autonomous flying and movement capability, so you could essentially set the target and then it
20:25just goes and finds the person.
20:28That's where we're heading, right?
20:29You and I in the White House saw a drone, and we've talked about this
20:33because they declassified it, but saw a drone attack where there's a car full of
20:38four people and the drone is now...
20:41The technology is so specific on the drone that they can fly in, kill one
20:45person in the car, and then the other three people you can see on the
20:49video just fleeing. That's how...
20:52They know what seat the guy's in.
20:54They're not taking out the car.
20:55They're taking out the guy in a particular seat inside of a drone.
20:59It's a variant of the Hellfire missile.
21:02It's called the Flying Ginsu, the AGM -114R9X, a non -explosive missile projectile that essentially
21:14has six sword -like blades, swords because they are big and long, sword -like blades
21:21that come out and, you know, it's messy.
21:27But, in a sense, it's less messy because no collateral damage, but you wouldn't want
21:31to get hit by one of these things.
21:33That is for sure. But yes, the technology that is being deployed here is very
21:38real. But anyway, that New York Post story I just thought was particularly interesting because
21:41there's... People ask me, I mean, I've been out.
21:43I've been out of the covert world.
21:47for 15 years now it's been 15 years i've been doing media this june so
21:51they got all kinds of new whiz bangs i've never heard of some of this
21:54obviously this uh no one to my knowledge who isn't currently active and working on
21:58this technology in the government would have had any any idea about this um because
22:02it's brand new but well it also comes on the maduro the maduro thing which
22:08they admitted to which was essentially a sonic weapon to disable all of people people
22:13ask me they're like oh man do you know about this i was like no
22:16this is crazy this is new stuff never heard about it before but technology on
22:21the battlefield guys it's going to advance so rapidly and it's going to change so
22:25much and uh we are you're already seeing some of this stuff in the early
22:31phase that is going to become ubiquitous and you know this is we're we're entering
22:38a whole new era of warfare that will be very different i i think we're
22:43at the i could put it this way clay i think we're about to enter
22:46an era of warfare with the biggest transformation in how battles are fought since the
22:54early days of gunpowder i think we're entering that's how that's a bold prediction well
23:00because we're gonna have uh we already do it something where you could argue we're
23:05already kind of there you're going to have on ground air and sea non -human
23:12combatants making real -time decisions not just on where they go but on who and
23:17what they target using artificial technology and satellite -based communication so that they can't be
23:23jammed or interfered with i mean this is you're talking about my friend we're talking
23:28about robot armies here we're on the edge of robot army stuff in a way
23:33that you know you say okay we don't have humanoid robots yet have you guys
23:38seen some of the stuff that is coming out from uh even you know elon's
23:44companies now he's not making terminator uh the t what is it the t800 was
23:48that the original the t1000 was the uh was the alloy metal thing right uh
23:55but the t800 i think was the original terminator he's not making that he's making
23:59nice little robots that are going to fold your laundry but if a robot can
24:03fold your laundry and it can you know make decisions it can also shoot a
24:08gun and and basically i i know we haven't talked about the ukraine situation in
24:14some time but effectively ukraine seems seems to have created enough drones and russia certainly
24:23has got them too that we have reached some form of equilibrium now we're coming
24:28out of winter so the roads are getting better and we'll see what happens in
24:31the spring summer but basically the lines are not moving very much because if you
24:37leave much like back in the olden days for those of you who remember and
24:40have studied at all world war one like you put your head above a trench
24:45and you were done for and so it became almost impossible to move in many
24:49ways that's kind of what's happened with drones now where if humans come out in
24:54any way and try to advance the drones are coming it's not other humans taking
24:57them out uh but we got a lot of talkbacks we'll start with this one
25:00because you wanted to hit this a while back and it is probably the number
25:03one question we are getting and uh it is uh it has to do with
25:08what we were just talking about which is the larger drone issues many of you
25:13have been asking a version of this question which is what tom in oklahoma city
25:18cut f is asking if we destroyed their military how is it they're still able
25:24to try to shut down the straighter uh remove i don't understand how that's working
25:30but tom it's a very good question we have essentially annihilated their navy like their
25:37navy they've got very little left it's also it's hard to hide big boats right
25:42so they've got very little left um they've got very little air defense although not
25:48none as we've seen i mentioned the man pads and i think there were actually
25:51sam sites that uh people are i have to go back and read the reporting
25:55on i think it was a combination of man pad and sam site is a
25:58surface -to -air missile uh man pad is the shoulder -fired rocket so they still
26:03have those and they still have a over half million person standing army we haven't
26:10killed a half a million iranian soldiers thank god because that would be that's a
26:14lot of people to kill uh we haven't done that so they have their ground
26:19force is very much intact which is what we would have to contend with even
26:23if we were going to land on the shore of the of the the iranian
26:28by the way all this stuff it is helpful to pull up a map for
26:30some of this stuff so you can see you know you got you got the
26:32straighter for moves and you got you know the saudis are on one side of
26:36this body of water the iranians then you got the iraqis the kuwaitis i mean
26:40this is this is for the oil world about a strategic uh piece of real
26:45estate or a piece of uh waterway as you could possibly find but so clay
26:49the answer to our friend's question here is we've really destroyed their air force surface
26:54to air their ballistic missiles their navy they got a lot of guys with kalashnikovs
27:00and uh and you know rpgs and stuff running around still so think about that
27:04for an invasion why we don't want to do that and it doesn't take much
27:08for whatever they've got to fire from shore and blow up a tanker it's easy
27:12to do even if you're decimated militarily Which is why the question that I think
27:17we were having in the first hour is to what extent does the Iranian leadership
27:22have the ability to curtail individual actors from making choices inside of Iran?
27:28And this was Pete Hegseth in his press conference this morning saying, hey, there's still
27:33some missiles and drones being shot off.
27:35And I think Iran's response is, well, we don't have great communication infrastructure, so we're
27:40having difficulty reaching everybody inside of the Iranian defense and saying, hey, we've got a
27:47ceasefire going on right now.
27:48It's also possible, and this is where I think it becomes really messy, it's also
27:53possible, Buck, that we have several different factions competing for power inside of Iran, and
28:00there isn't any real leader that has the ability to control the actions inside of
28:06the country. But the easy answer, I think, for the caller there, or the talkbacker,
28:10is it takes very little to blow up an oil tanker, and if you are
28:19an owner, you're a private industry, and you own an oil tanker, what do you
28:22think an oil tanker's worth on the market?
28:24$80 million? $90 million? Oh, at least.
28:27I mean, full of oil?
28:29Yeah, I've got to think at least something like that.
28:30But I mean, just the physical structure of the, like, you know, you're running constantly
28:34oil on the oil tanker.
28:35But if you are the business that, let's just say it's a $100 million asset,
28:40it turns into risk analysis, right?
28:42What are the percentage chances that something could happen to your ship?
28:46And as we talked about a lot on this program, the one thing you don't
28:50want to be transporting if suddenly you have flame or if you have an explosion
28:54is oil and gas. Yeah, missiles are flying at you, and you're on a virtual
28:57sea of oil. That's rough.
28:59It's a rough place to be.
29:01Podcast listener Clint E. from North Carolina.
29:04Hit it. Clay, you're going to have to take that microphone away from Buck.
29:09He's going to have my 401k 2 .5 % down instead of 2 .5 %
29:12up by the end of the day.
29:14Very funny. It's a fair point.
29:16Fair point. I'm not sort of bullish on, well, no, I think Trump's going to
29:22walk, I think this is going to end up in negotiations.
29:24I just think that when people are assessing the success of this longer term, it's
29:29going to be more of a challenge.
29:30We'll see. We'll see. But I don't think we're going to have a continuous blow
29:34them up, come back to the table, blow them up, come back to the table.
29:37You're going to, like I said, give it two weeks.
29:40We might blow up some stuff, and then there'll be an agreement to talk again,
29:44and this agreement will go for a month or two.
29:47You know, that's what I see happening.
29:48We're going to keep talking and talking, and the Iranians will not concede on the
29:51key points. That's where I think this is all heading.
29:55Tom from Oklahoma City – oh, no, I'm sorry.
29:58We already did that one.
29:59H, Kenneth from Melbourne, Florida.
30:02Clay, you're twisting yourself in knots trying to make your point.
30:08Bottom line, Buck is right.
30:09Look, we asked them to open the straits and let the ships through.
30:15That obviously means we cannot open it.
30:19They control it. Clay, your floor.
30:23My floor is – look at the map.
30:26No, I mean, like the floor is yours.
30:27Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, yeah, I'm taking the floor.
30:29Look at the map. We control once they come out of the Strait of Hormuz,
30:34and we have allowed Iranian oil and gas because we want Iranian oil and gas
30:39on the marketplace. So if – like this whole idea of control, if we want
30:45to stop, as the United States, all ships from being able to come out of
30:49the Strait of Hormuz, including Iran, we 100 % can do that.
30:53Iran is saying they control the Strait of Hormuz because they are crazy enough to
30:59just blow ships up. If we wanted to blow ships up, we could, quote, control
31:04the Strait of Hormuz. We don't want to do that.
31:06We want global commerce to be able to exist.
31:10So control is just they're crazy enough to blow up ships, and we're not willing
31:14to do so. So, again, if we just said, hey, Iran, you're not going to
31:19be able to sell your oil and gas, my argument is the ultimate trump card,
31:22which is obviously well -played in this context, is that we can just say, hey,
31:28Strait of Hormuz is closed.
31:29Like, we actually have the ability to close it.
31:32What Iran has the ability to do is levy enough risk such that rational business
31:37owners say, I'm not going to risk my $100 million boat.
31:40Let's just say it's a $100 million boat to try to get this oil and
31:44gas out, to say nothing of the potential loss of lives.
31:47And, by the way, a lot of crewmen may be sitting back there saying, you
31:50know, Buck, I'd prefer that we don't risk whether or not we're going to get
31:54blown up going through the Strait of Hormuz, too.
31:56These are rational human actors, and Iran is playing on their rational human fear.
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33:19wherever you get your podcasts welcome back into clay and buck we are joined by
33:25florida senator rick scott with us now the great state of florida and senator not
33:31only do you have a full -time do you hear that new york state tax
33:34authorities a full -time florida resident here with me you've got a part -time florida
33:39resident with clay so a lot of love for the sunshine state thank you for
33:43being here with us uh let's first get into this because the big news of
33:47the day is the ceasefire you you come from i mean not only do you
33:50have the senate to draw upon for all of this of course but you come
33:53from a business background you've done plenty of negotiating yourself how do you feel about
33:59this ceasefire and what do you think comes next well first off you have to
34:05really admire donald trump um the guy the guy is a deal doer um and
34:10he you know you should listen to what he tells you i mean he clearly
34:13wants to get rid of the nuclear weapons which i'm very appreciative because i love
34:17my family uh i don't want them killed by nuclear weapons and i think every
34:21family should be thinking that way in america thank god this president cares about us
34:25and wants to save her save our lives uh and what the hell was obama
34:29doing and um and biden doing so uh and he also wants to get rid
34:33of the ballistic missiles and so i think i think it's great i hope uh
34:37iran's smart uh and they they keep it going the democrats are completely insane um
34:44i mean they they say oh we got it you know they want to impeach
34:47trump uh because you know he is holding iran accountable so think about it if
34:52these same democrats were in office sherman wouldn't have you know gone through the south
34:56because by then you know lincoln would be impeached and roosevelt sure as heck wouldn't
35:00have restored the infrastructure in germany because he had been impeached and sherman wouldn't have
35:04dropped the bomb because he'd already been impeached so these i mean these democrats are
35:08defending aitola hamas uh i mean they're in my you know close to florida they're
35:15out they're down in cuba defending a horrible regime um they're defending the iranian regime
35:21that killed what 30 some thousand people just in uh january so it's um but
35:26trump's doing the right thing i'm very optimistic that this is going to last um
35:30it's in it but if it doesn't i mean i wouldn't play with trump um
35:35if um if they don't do their part don't live up to their part of
35:39the market you know all hell is going to break loose um you can if
35:43you have you seen that chart of all the leadership of iran that's been destroyed
35:47so so i don't think there's anybody for putin to call anymore we're talking to
35:54florida senator uh rick scott you're up for uh re -election if i'm not mistaken
35:59this november you don't know your opponent yet uh but you're also high up in
36:05overall senate leadership let's talk about the big picture here um i was just on
36:09fox news talking about the situation in michigan mike rogers is going to be the
36:13nominee there new hampshire uh also and georgia are potential pickups and then you have
36:20battlegrounds coming in north carolina in maine ohio others what do you expect for the
36:26fall to look like and and how optimistic or pessimistic are you about the larger
36:31uh state maps i think i think republicans can do well as long as we
36:36have something to run on um trump's given us a lot to run on um
36:41i mean if you look at what he's you know what he's done uh trying
36:44to bring you know before they ran thing but they'll come back down oil prices
36:48down the cost of living down uh support our law enforcement support our military so
36:53republicans republicans are the party that we care about your job we care about your
36:57kids education we care about public safety and the democrats are clearly the party that
37:02doesn't care about jobs doesn't care about your kids education and doesn't care about public
37:06safety so that should be our message if it does i think we're going to
37:09do well but we got to get our votes out susan's collins has got a
37:12race in maine houston's got a race in ohio mike rogers got a race in
37:16michigan wiley's got a race in north carolina solomon's got a race in alaska so
37:20we know and we've got to pick up opportunity possibly in new hampshire with sununu
37:24pick up opportunity you know hopefully to beat ossoff in georgia so we just got
37:29to raise our money have our message bust our butts every day you want your
37:33work every day to get your um the you know to get your votes out
37:37every every every day so if we do i think we're going to have a
37:40good fall well let's certainly hope so because we all know senator you've probably just
37:45seen this popping up in your news feed they're already talking impeachment these democrats in
37:50the house they're already talking crazy stuff uh and i do you think that i'm
37:55just going to put this out to you do you think that the president is
37:58going to have to give preemptive pardon to some members of his cabinet if just
38:02in case a democrat were to win because they're so hell -bent on some kind
38:07of payback i i worry the democrats psyche has been so damaged by trump go
38:13ahead senator yeah i agree i mean the i mean it's just trump derangement syndrome
38:18they they don't they don't care about this country you saw it in the state
38:22of the union when trump asked stand up if you think your first job is
38:25to protect americans and rather than illegal alien and not one democrat stood up uh
38:31for that so the um i don't think even the bottom line is we cannot
38:42lose we have got to we've got to do it we got to keep the
38:46majority in the house and senate if if they get the house and i assume
38:50they're going to impeach a lot of people and um we're going to have to
38:53deal with it in the senate um but trump's i mean trump's doing it i
38:57mean what's fascinating is if you care about this country you have to thank trump
39:01you know you might say oh gosh i wish he i wish his rhetoric wasn't
39:05that but guess what he scares the hell out of people i mean look at
39:09what he's done look at look we got we have a chance for democracy and
39:12um in venezuela with with maduro out it looks like we got a big opportunity
39:18in cuba um you look at look at what he's trying to broker peace around
39:22the world and we if if we can if he can pull off what he's
39:24going to pull off in iran it completely changes the middle east and guess what
39:28russia and china don't have an ally in the middle east anymore because i mean
39:33they you know it's all transactional and and iran just is their friend because they
39:37all hate america um you represent a state that has a huge venezuelan and a
39:43huge cuban population you just mentioned both president may well have asked you a certainly
39:49colleague of yours marco rubio a secretary of state who you know very well uh
39:54let let's go to cuba what to you should happen in cuba what would you
40:00advise the president as a senator representing the state with more expat cubans than any
40:05in the country what should we do with cuba how should we handle it what
40:09should the future look like there we we first off we all have to realize
40:14diaz canal is not the leader the only leader is royal castro uh royal castro
40:19needs to be indicted and the first step is i would indict royal castro and
40:23then i would arrest him right uh because he's actually the leader if cuba jesus
40:28canal is not the leader next i would make sure the regime has nothing they
40:33have no dollars they have no petro and they have nothing um just in the
40:38last two weeks democrats have gone down to cuba to prop up a regime that
40:43kills its own citizens that puts them in prison as young as 16 there's a
40:4616 year old who's in prison and they go down there with a guy that
40:50is living in god's faith it says that i should be killed he goes on
40:54a radio and says rick scott you need to go kill rick scott uh so
40:59the this is these are disgusting people that don't care about people like i asked
41:03why didn't you go down and ask them you know talk to the political prisoners
41:06what they see ask them what it's like um so but i'm i'm hopeful if
41:12trump keeps doing what he's doing i think the regime's going to fall i think
41:15the people of cuba are going to rise up um they've been they've been protesting
41:20um so i think they will rise up and take over and and pick the
41:24government they want not the government that that you know they would lie to by
41:28fidel castro speaking to senator rick scott of florida uh senator how are we doing
41:35with the judge this is something that is always in the background of my mind
41:40uh because i think it is one of those parts of an administration that is
41:44super important but doesn't always get much attention to headlines because it's an ongoing thing
41:50although the possibility of a supreme court vacancy will certainly get attention if that happens
41:54how are we doing with the judge confirmation machinery in the senate as you see
41:59it is trump getting judges on the federal court in the numbers that he needs
42:05to to basically rebuild some aspects of our judiciary towards sanity after the biden years
42:11well he's getting the ones done in red states but we have the blue slip
42:16process when the blue slip process was not to stop uh judges or u .s
42:21attorneys or u .s marshals and that's what the democrats are using it as so
42:25we already have had to change the rules uh on nominations uh because they were
42:30blocking all the nominations so that would change last year and if they keep doing
42:33what they're going to do you know with whether we have to get rid of
42:36the filibuster we get rid of the blue slip process because he won whether the
42:42democrats would like it he is the president he gets to make nominations right that's
42:47that's the way this works um and if it's somebody that we think is inappropriate
42:51then we can decide not to vote for him but but the democrats are trying
42:55to use every mechanism to uh prevent any success by trump they want the economy
43:00to be horrible they the democrats wanting to lose in iran they hate our country
43:04all they want to do is beat trump because all they don't care about the
43:08democrats don't care about americans they just care about trump failing and they get back
43:12in power that's all they think about is how how do how do they you
43:16know get back in power that's all it's all schumer thinks about jeffries thinks about
43:20democrats all they think about is power power power um there is report coming out
43:25of caroline levitt jd vance whitkoff and kushner are headed to pakistan to have face
43:31-to -face meetings with representatives of iran to try and figure out you know what
43:36could take place during this ceasefire What does victory to you look like, Senator?
43:41Buck and I debated what should happen, what could happen.
43:44If the president were to ask you, Senator Scott, what should I be my red
43:50line, so to speak? What is victory at this point in Iran?
43:54What does that look like?
43:55You would say what? But the minimum for him, which I agree with, the minimum
44:00for him is that they have no ability to build a nuclear weapon, no ability
44:04to build ballistic missiles. We've taken all the enriched uranium out of the country, and
44:10we control it. That's the absolute minimum.
44:14Now, on top of that, it's hard to believe they'll stop helping Saudis and Hamas
44:20and Hezbollah unless we've destroyed their economy.
44:23So either they have to have no economy or they have to have new leadership
44:27because we cannot allow them to have a future president give them like Obama did,
44:33gave them billions of dollars so they can go try to kill more Americans because
44:36they've been killing Americans, you know, for, what, 47 years.
44:40So, but the minimum is no nuclear weapons, no ability, and no ballistic missiles and
44:46no ability to do it.
44:47That's the bare minimum. Do you think we'll get there?
44:51Do you think the Iranians will agree to this?
44:54I think, yeah, I think they will, because I think they, if you look at
44:59what the American military has done, I mean, it's unbelievable what we've done.
45:06Um, so I think that, um, that if I, and if, and just look at
45:12the chart of the people that have been killed from the leadership, um, and that's
45:17probably primarily been done by the Israelis.
45:19But if you're, if you're sitting there and you, you know, most people are not
45:22interested in dying. That's been my experience in life.
45:25So you look at that, you look at the org chart and say, oh, I'm
45:29next if I don't change.
45:31Um, so I think that they're going to change, but, you know, I'm an, I'm
45:35an internal optimist, but I wouldn't be on the opposite side of Trump right now.
45:39I would never be on the opposite side of Trump.
45:40I think the guy, the guy's willing to go make the tough choices to protect
45:44us. Um, for people out there who maybe just aren't thinking about it, uh, there's
45:49lots of talk about the house.
45:51The Senate, we think is far more impactful.
45:54Buck mentioned judges. There's the possibility of Supreme court vacancies.
45:59Um, for people out there that are maybe not paying attention to it, what's the
46:04difference you've been in both between being on the majority side and the minority side
46:08in the Senate? Well, if you're in minority, you don't get to decide what you
46:13vote on. Um, that's number one.
46:16Um, number two, you know, none there's, so there's nothing you're going to, that you
46:20want to get done. Like we've been busting our butt to get the save America
46:23act done. There's no way.
46:25I mean, look, I'm going to keep fighting for that, but if the Democrats can,
46:28control it, no, they want fraud.
46:30There's no, there's no way we'll get a vote on it.
46:32Uh, it's hard enough when we're in the majority, but, but I mean, there's nothing
46:37that would be good for, for Americans that will happen.
46:40And it will be, the Democrats, what they want to do is destroy this country.
46:43They want to bankrupt this country.
46:45They want to make everything woke.
46:47Um, they hate law enforcement.
46:49They hate our military. So if you love our country, there's no way in the
46:53world you can vote for a Democrat.
46:54So we, we have to have a majority and we need to have a majority
46:58in both the House and the Senate.
46:59And we should, we have stuff to run on.
47:02Now we've got a lot of work left to do, but we have got to
47:05get this done. Now I've come out saying we got to get rid of the
47:08filibuster because the way, what Democrats are doing is they're used.
47:11The filibuster is always supposed to be used to stop debate, but you get to
47:15debate, but eventually you shut up and you go vote.
47:19They're using it to say, you know, you never get a vote.
47:22That was never the way the filibuster was supposed to be set up.
47:25And so we, I think we're going to have, if we wouldn't, if we want
47:29to have something wrong in November, we're going to have to say to ourselves, finally,
47:33you know, all this obstructionist stuff by the Democrats, we're tired of it.
47:37We're going to, we're, you know, we gave them a chance.
47:39They want to work with us.
47:40So we're going to, now we're, we're going to go get rid of the filibuster.
47:43We're going to, you know, unfortunately, you know, get rid of things that, that were
47:47supposed to be, you know, useful.
47:50Like I, you know, I tried to work with the Biden administration on judges, right?
47:54Instead of saying, no, I just, all I, because all I cared about is give
47:57me a judge that's not going to create the law.
47:59That's all I cared about.
48:00When I was governor of Florida, I appointed 407 judges.
48:03That's the only thing I care about.
48:04You are not, you don't get to legislate.
48:07Legislature does. So, but Democrats, they, they, they want to block everything Trump wants to
48:13get done. Everything. Thanks so much, Senator Scott.
48:17Appreciate you being with us.
48:20All right. Take care. Thank you.
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49:39Level up your brain. Mental mugging with Clay and Buck.
49:44Welcome in. Hour number three, Wednesday edition, Clay and Buck show.
49:50A lot of different details all coming down just recently with Caroline Levitt in the
49:58White House press briefing. And I have got a series of these to update you
50:04all with these. I believe these are in the order in which they were occurring.
50:10And then we've got a ton of your talkbacks that we will play and 800
50:15-282 -2882. We will take some of your calls as well.
50:19Okay. And Buck, this is one of the big points of discussion we got into
50:23in the first hour. To what extent is the public and private commentary different from
50:29Iran? How can you rely on what is being said?
50:33Caroline Levitt, cut 26, says that what Iran is saying publicly is different from what
50:40they are saying privately, cut 26.
50:42With respect to the first reporting out of Iranian state media, the president was made
50:46aware of those reports before I came to the podium.
50:49That is completely unacceptable. And again, this is a case of what they're saying publicly
50:53is different privately. We have seen an uptick of traffic in the strait today.
50:57And I will reiterate the president's expectation and demand that the Strait of Hormuz is
51:02reopened immediately, quickly and safely.
51:05That is his expectation. It has been relayed to him privately that that is what's
51:09taking place. And these reports publicly are false.
51:12Okay, this is an easy one that we can test, Buck.
51:16Either there's going to be a lot of ships that are coming through the Strait
51:19of Hormuz safely, or there's not.
51:22And if there's not, it's a pretty good sign that that is dishonest, that they
51:27are actually still curtailing traffic substantially.
51:29My sense also is that she's referring to also here referring to the position that
51:38the Iranians are taking on the deal points.
51:41And is that included in that response there?
51:43We've got we've got an additional we've got an additional cut on that, I think,
51:47which is her saying the 10 point request is just not accurate.
51:53And we are not agreeing there.
51:55Well, but this is where the public private dichotomy matters so much, right?
51:59Because they're saying the White House is telling us, oh, don't worry behind closed doors.
52:03The Iranians are way more compliant and willing to play ball on these things than
52:08because what they put out to be clear and we can I guess we might
52:12as well play this. What the Iranians put out is their deal position is a
52:16giant extended finger in our direction.
52:20It is it is a maximalist maximalist points on their side that they are taking
52:28here. This is 28. Here's Caroline Leavitt on this.
52:30I've seen a lot of inaccurate coverage today from the media about these negotiations and
52:35these plans already. So let me be clear and correct the record.
52:38The Iranians originally put forward a 10 point plan that was fundamentally unserious, unacceptable and
52:44completely discarded. It was literally thrown in the garbage by President Trump and his negotiating
52:50team. Many outlets in this room have falsely reported on that plan as being acceptable
52:55to the United States. And that is false.
52:58With the president's deadline fast approaching and the United States military completely decimating Iran with
53:03each passing hour, the regime acknowledged reality to the negotiating team.
53:07They put forward a more reasonable and entirely different and condensed plan to the president
53:12and his team. President Trump and the team determined the new modified plan was a
53:16workable basis on which to negotiate and to align it with our own 15 point
53:22proposal. The president's red lines, namely the end of Iranian enrichment in Iran, have not
53:28changed. And the idea that President Trump would ever accept an Iranian wish list as
53:34a deal is completely absurd.
53:36I don't think anyone, well, I mean, we certainly haven't.
53:40I haven't seen anyone say that the 10 points put forward by Iran were accepted
53:43by the White House. So I think that's a little bit of a red herring.
53:47No one's saying that we've agreed to that.
53:49Not even CNN or New York Times is saying we've agreed to that.
53:52But that is what was put out there.
53:55Look, everyone, we are very pro -Trump and very pro -America and very pro -humanity
54:02in these matters here. Clay and I can certainly agree on that.
54:04Anti -death. Anti -death, anti -innocent people suffering, anti -chaos, mass hysteria, dogs and cats
54:12living together. We don't like any of those things.
54:14I'm going to have to now step in.
54:16I'm a little, I'll tell you this, I feel I should have been louder about
54:21DHS Secretary Noem was a horrible choice and it was an outrageously bad case.
54:28People might say, oh, it doesn't matter.
54:30Really? How many deportations have we gotten done?
54:32Really? How's our immigration? stuff looking from the deportation perspective and how much time has
54:37been lost and how anyway so i i feel like i gave trump because he's
54:42trump and he won i was like you know what his team his picks who
54:45am i to who am i to judge no i knew i knew and you
54:49all knew that i knew um on this one clay how's our whole ending the
54:53ukraine war thing in one day going not going how's our whole getting kim jong
54:59-un to open a whole new universe of uh the talks with trump and yeah
55:04he's not firing off rocket i'm not saying nothing has been done or there's not
55:07concessions or whatever but hasn't happened okay russian russian aggression against ukraine still ongoing i
55:15i am sorry i'm feeling a little bit of a spin coming from this white
55:19house on this where they're saying oh no what they're saying in private we'll see
55:24we'll see trump's red line is that they're going to give up they're going to
55:28agree to formally remember to agree to give up the nuclear program comes with things
55:34like getting rid of their enriched uranium like allowing inspectors you know there there are
55:41actual processes it's not just like oh yeah we'll do that and then they can
55:45lie about it right because that wouldn't be acceptable either they're not going to do
55:50it guys i i mean i hope i'm wrong i'll come and i'll tell you
55:54i'll be like oh in two weeks you know what they're going to say we're
55:57getting closer we're getting close great progress has been made jared kushner's nailing this thing
56:01down great progress has been made okay we'll see hopefully the straight opens that's a
56:08big part of it clay but i think they will open the straight because now
56:11they're in the negotiation phase and that's their leverage against us that's why i think
56:17the end result this is my prediction is going to be both sides agree to
56:25just kind of put down arms and leave things where they are and our argument
56:31is that iran has agreed that they're going to stop and we think that the
56:35uh uranium is underground and unreachable um and then iran is saying to their people
56:42hey you know they came for us and we haven't given up anything that may
56:47be true this is a little different from what we're talking about the first hour
56:50clay i could see what you're saying happened but keep in mind that is not
56:53achieving a non -nuclear iran and and uh that is not what that is though
56:57but i yes but that what that allows this is what i'm thinking is going
57:02to end up being the end result the because the only other option is this
57:06like right there are two options for how that thing ends we go on the
57:09ground with our you know somebody was uh with our nerds who have to actually
57:15get the canisters right we go on the ground in iran which was there was
57:20a report i think in the wall street journal that we worked considering doing this
57:24we seize it all we bring it back we hold it up and we're like
57:29we got it here it is uh and they can't use this anymore the other
57:34option which i think i agree with you on this is iran just agrees to
57:39give it to us i can't foresee a world in which iran is humiliated enough
57:45to just hand over all of the uranium and all of their uh literal physical
57:51uh capacity to try to make uh nuclear weapons here's the other question that that
57:58that i think is is going to uh is going to loom large here and
58:04uh and that is something i bet again we're we're going to get a good
58:08sign for what is the public posture versus what is the private posture ships are
58:13either going to come through or they're not and if the ships aren't coming through
58:18then the argument of the straight of hormuz is 100 percent open is not accurate
58:24and we can determine that now the price of oil and gas has come down
58:2820 dollars which suggests that there is some optimism that the flow of oil and
58:34gas is going to continue uh but i but i think that's a that's the
58:38number one trust but verify component here is are the ships coming through and that's
58:44what i would want to see as the hey you can be trusted component of
58:50this early stage negotiation with jd vance whitkoff and kushner headed to pakistan i i
58:55just these these iranians man they're wily cats these guys know what i'm telling this
59:01what they're going to do they're going to say hold hold on a second and
59:04they're going to put out they're going to use the mechanisms they have to put
59:07out statements to whether it's you know through the running it through uh press in
59:12the middle east or wherever they're i mean they can just put it on x
59:14for all it doesn't doesn't really matter they'll say hey hey guys we open the
59:18straight we're negotiating we're negotiating we're figuring it out we're figuring it out and then
59:23as a little bit of time moves on you know they're going to say they're
59:25going to say you know what trump you really don't want us to shut down
59:29this straight with you guys having the midterms coming up so you know i i
59:33think they think the leverage has switched to their side on this i really do
59:37and if we start bombing we're bombing them through fourth of july weekend this summer
59:41you think that's going to be a good look this was promised to be four
59:44to six weeks we are at the deadline this is where we are now and
59:48we're sending in jared and whitkoff to islamabad apparently to figure this whole thing out
59:52via pakistan i don't know man i but so i think you're right i think
59:57they're going to open the straight up but the point is they're going to open
59:59the straight up and then they're going to say yeah everything else stay here's the
1:00:02larger issue this is where i actually agree with you um a hundred percent midterms
1:00:09are an issue but let's move beyond let's actually think bigger picture longer range iran
1:00:16knows worst case scenario for them trump is out in january of 29 who is
1:00:22the most likely successor to trump right now jd vance what did jd vance argue
1:00:28in the new york times piece that came out today that he didn't want to
1:00:31do anything to iran if i'm iranian leadership right now i'm saying hey two and
1:00:36a half years it may be rough trump may come after us but if we
1:00:40get jd we can work with jd and by the way democrats we saw obama
1:00:46bit over backwards and gave butterfly kisses to the iranian leadership so the concern is
1:00:51trump's the only bad guy they have to deal with and it's only two and
1:00:56a half years now you sound like now you sound like an iranian bad guy
1:01:00who knows who he's selling his pistachios to you know what i'm saying i mean
1:01:03you're i mean this is this is the long range and i do think the
1:01:06advantage that evil dictators have is evil dictators can think longer than a four -year
1:01:13cycle or a six -month cycle and this is why my argument for you know
1:01:19this is why i like kings if you got a good king you get him
1:01:22for like 40 years you know you got a good president you only even socrates
1:01:26was like the best government is just having a perfect person in charge of everything
1:01:30unfortunately there's no perfect person but but trump the best possible person that we could
1:01:34have is only here for eight years and my god can you imagine what will
1:01:38happen if kamala harris or gavin newsom is in office in january of 29 they're
1:01:43not going to do anything so that's the ultimate i think challenge that trump has
1:01:48is two and a half years is nothing the older you get the less two
1:01:54and a half years is and then you add on the religious fundamentalism and those
1:01:59guys think in hundreds and thousands of years that's you know they're thinking about conquering
1:02:05the world in 2800 um not worrying about what the next three years are going
1:02:10to look like that's my beard is getting a little longer his farce is getting
1:02:15a little bit clearer like he's you're doing i think you're you're edging at least
1:02:19towards seeing i think how this can go sideways really fast which is even even
1:02:23if you're right about the feelings on the you know the state of the negotiations
1:02:28right now let's just say that there is some private there are so many ways
1:02:32that this thing gets uh gets screwed up now here here's the i'll give you
1:02:36my biggest upside to this is that our downside has been quite limited that is
1:02:43and that's why the ending this thing now is is i think the right move
1:02:48yeah but i think it's basically ending now and i think we walk away they
1:02:52think they won we think we won and this is the way this thing moves
1:02:55forward i don't think there's going to be a nuclear deal at the end of
1:02:57this we didn't lose hundreds or thousands of american soldiers fighting we didn't go into
1:03:02a six month or six year heaven forbid war like this this is manageable where
1:03:07it is now so that's to me the upside of this but people are going
1:03:11to tell you if if this is the end state where we are right now
1:03:15which is the straight opens and there's negotiations going forward that's not what the purpose
1:03:20of this of this air campaign was just to be clear that's that's not maybe
1:03:25they're going to get there and that in that case great i'll say they get
1:03:27there but it was not we're going to negotiate more over this stuff and the
1:03:31straight of hormuz is open and we destroyed a lot of their military stuff which
1:03:34we did do and it was an amazing display of american military power but that
1:03:39is not what that is not what this was all about and i think that's
1:03:42why the israelis by the way are very annoyed about this current situation based on
1:03:46the reporting that we've seen and by the way lebanon is still going to become
1:03:49an issue because they're still fighting going on there and they're saying that's supposed to
1:03:53be a part of the ceasefire the other thing is and again i really encourage
1:03:57people not always we say this to read that new york times piece israel told
1:04:02trump that there would be regime change meaning the ayatollahs would be out if we
1:04:07did this now the trump advisors marco rubio didn't buy it uh according to the
1:04:13reporting uh jd vance didn't endorse this in any way people listen to the show
1:04:18no i've never bought it i've always been like i don't think that's gonna happen
1:04:21it's not gonna happen so trump is now saying regime change is a new leader
1:04:28which technically is accurate but it isn't a new democratic leader it's just a different
1:04:35um religious fundamentalist when you're talking about things like this you don't want to turn
1:04:39into being clever with your comms you want it to be clear mission accomplished move
1:04:44on to other things like here at home but we'll come back into this we'll
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