Hour 3 - The Dignidad Act
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0:33T's and C's apply. Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
0:37We're joined by our friend Steve Yates.
0:39He is a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, the former senior national security official
0:45in White House. And Steve, you are in Seoul, South Korea right now.
0:52You're joining us, I think it's like 3 a .m.
0:55there, so you are a dedicated member of the Clay and Buck family.
0:59If you show up for us, thank you so much for that.
1:02And feel free to, if you want to tell us anything about what you're doing
1:04in South Korea, by all means.
1:05But I want to first, if I could, put you in the situation of, you
1:12are with, you are with, let's just say for our conversation, Vance, Kushner, Whitcoff, in
1:22this Islamabad negotiation. What are you expecting from the Iranians?
1:28How are you going to leverage this situation?
1:30How do you think this thing can and should be handled from our side?
1:36Yeah, Buck, well, I don't envy the task.
1:39This is a very, very big challenge.
1:41The remnants of the Iranian regime, I think our level of trust and implementation has
1:46to be very, very low.
1:47So it's not just trust, but verify.
1:50But how about, let's just verify.
1:52And I would say the highest priority right now has to be free flow of
1:58goods out of the Gulf and through the Strait of Hormuz.
2:02My first question, if I was there with them, I'd say, why are we in
2:05Islamabad? And is there a reason why Pakistan is a particularly helpful angle in this
2:11conversation? But I'd try to quickly get to, we have to get some verifiable benchmarks.
2:18There's really no negotiation about that freedom of navigation point.
2:23And I'd quickly try to bring in the equities of the United Arab Emirates and
2:27some other key allies who can and will bring some capabilities to the table.
2:31And the minding of the nuclear facilities and the remnants of the regime, the political
2:36stuff, that's going to take time.
2:37And so I would put highest priority on what our ultimate national interest has to
2:42be in the near term.
2:45How optimistic are you that the overall situation, let's say that right now we're sitting,
2:53you know, it's April 8th, April 9th.
2:56By the time we get into May and by the time we get into June
3:01and people start to pay a little bit more attention to the midterms, how optimistic
3:05are you that we're going to be able to shift the overall story to what's
3:10going on back here in the country as opposed to externally Iran continuing to pop
3:16up and kind of take over the narrative?
3:19In other words, can we get a solution that turns foreign policy into a significant
3:25but not primary focus of the midterms?
3:28Because I think to a large extent, most people voting come November are going to
3:32be focused on what is going on directly here in the United States.
3:37I think we have to get there.
3:39And every indication is the president is determined to do so.
3:43But to get there, odds are pretty high that we're going to have to take
3:47some significant action somewhere along the way.
3:50My strongest suspicion is that we're going to have to use the resources that are
3:54moving in that direction to absolutely demonstrate control over the waterways.
3:59And I think that the other thing that we may end up having to do
4:03is we're going to have to demonstrate a willingness to strike again as more of
4:08a maintenance mode than a high tempo major military operation.
4:12I think if the president and his team can navigate that de -escalation to maintenance
4:17with some burden sharing among allies that are really reliable, then I think that pivot
4:23to a necessary focus on home comes around that May time frame and maybe June
4:29at the latest. How do you think the Israeli allies are looking at this situation,
4:35Steve? What would you think is an acceptable outcome from their perspective?
4:41How do they play into all this?
4:42Because we obviously still have the Hezbollah -Lebanon issue, and they're bringing that as part
4:47of the U .S. Essentially, part of the U .S.-Iran negotiation is, hey, America, you've
4:53got to get Israel to play ball on the following thing.
4:55So it's a multi -party card game here.
5:02Yeah, well, I think that part of these negotiations have to be very clear that
5:06this is not two co -equal negotiating parties.
5:09We're big, and we won, and you lost.
5:12And we are negotiating the terms of your continued survival.
5:15We are generous and humane people in America.
5:19And so we don't envy the idea of going after you to total obliteration.
5:24But make no mistake about it, we are negotiating the terms of a surrender.
5:30And if we do anything less than that, then there are going to be some
5:34unacceptable outcomes here. I think the Gulf is one of those.
5:37This whole Lebanon thing is a really odd tell by Iran that it's actually them
5:42that is Hezbollah. Why in the world would they care about Hezbollah if it wasn't
5:47really an arm of their own odious regime?
5:52Who's making decisions from Iran?
5:54And I know the Gayatola, my words, not yours, Little Moe, also my words, not
6:00yours, has supposedly put out a statement.
6:03There has been attribution to him, as in people saying, hey, this is the guy
6:09that is actually making decisions.
6:11Do we buy that, or do you think he is a convenient proxy to attach
6:16decisions to while other people are making choices?
6:20And are we even sure who's able to make choices on behalf of Iran at
6:25this point? Well, first, Clay, I support the idea of coming up with names.
6:29I think we do that too little in august foreign policy and its useful political
6:34rhetoric. Number two, this is actually one of the hardest parts of this.
6:39We have decapitated the regime a couple or three layers down across a wide range
6:44of different elements of this terror network.
6:47And so we have the problem of when the ceasefire is announced, there's still other
6:52people popping off, probably because they don't have absolute centralized decision making at this point.
6:58Until there's a real verifiable proof of life, I'm not even convinced the latest iteration
7:03of the Ayatollah is calling any shots.
7:06It's more of that convenience you are mentioning.
7:07But there's a separation between the theocratic forces, the military forces, the secret police forces.
7:14And that I hopefully will, in the early parts of this negotiation, get some clarity
7:18about what's happening across the board.
7:20And there's the small issue of 90 million people who are not really represented by
7:24any of those institutions. And we have to make sure we have some visibility and
7:29maybe connectivity with that element of power in Iran, too.
7:33Speaking of Steve Yates, he is a senior fellow from the Heritage Foundation, a former
7:37senior White House national security official.
7:40And Steve, you are in South Korea.
7:44You can tell us if you want.
7:45I don't know if it's super secret squirrel.
7:47You don't have to. You can tell us what you're up to there because we're
7:49curious. But also, in terms of the I was going to say the Asian view
7:53of this, really, what I mean is the Chinese view of this situation in Iran.
7:58What are their major takeoff?
8:01I'm sure South Korea has some thoughts on all this, too.
8:03So you can weigh in on that.
8:04What is the Asian point of view, East Asian point of view on this whole
8:08Iran mess as it stands?
8:12Yeah, well, I did meet with the National Security Advisor here in South Korea, and
8:16I try to keep in touch with similar level people in Japan.
8:19These are very important economies to us, involved in very critical industries for us.
8:25And they are reasonably reliable allies when all things considered in what we are doing
8:31in the world. They have obvious concerns about energy flows.
8:35All of these economies are overly dependent on imports from the Middle East.
8:41We have options in the not -too -distant future.
8:44If they, say, buy American, Alaska is an awesome opportunity with some investment on their
8:48part. And so there are some things there.
8:51But in the near term, energy, energy, energy.
8:54And the other part they are sensitive to is the strategic flexibility of our forces.
8:58When we move things to surge in one part of the world, where they came
9:02from, those allies become concerned.
9:05North Korea popped off two short -range ballistic missiles while I was here.
9:10It was a nice welcome they gave me.
9:12But nothing super strategic. But they're still on alert about what could be done here
9:18while we are preoccupied in the Middle East.
9:21China, I think it's a mixed bag.
9:23The summit, supposedly, is still on.
9:25I'd give it, you know, at least 50 -50 chances of going as scheduled.
9:29But for China, there's been a pretty profound deterrent message of America is not on
9:34decline. And America will act if provoked and our national interests are engaged.
9:41They are concerned that Japan has made very, very clear that if China were to
9:45move on Taiwan, that it would be an impact on Japan's national interests they would
9:49have to respond to. So there's a mixed bag there.
9:52They hope that we're blowing up all of our ordnance in the Middle East so
9:56it's not available in the Indo -Pacific.
9:58We have to focus on that.
9:59But for now, I think that they have to take a step back and say,
10:02maybe we should negotiate a little more with Donald Trump.
10:06Steve, I know you're talking about it.
10:08We've been talking a lot about Iran.
10:10There's actually really positive news coming out of Venezuela as things seem to have calmed
10:15down substantially there. And the implications for Cuba have moved to a back burner, too.
10:22But what do you see happening in Venezuela?
10:24What do you see happening in Cuba?
10:26And how overall could that impact not only what might happen in the Middle East,
10:31but also China and the larger geopolitical climate?
10:35Well, the Venezuela situation, I think, is a real positive so far.
10:40As with everything in the world, we can always take only take the trajectory we're
10:45on. And there's no guarantees about things continuing to work.
10:48We're still actually dealing with the remnants of a regime that has been quite problematic
10:51for a long time. But I think Donald Trump got their attention.
10:55And so far, they are behaving the right way.
10:57And the resource equation is getting much, much better.
11:00So we have much better options in our hemisphere.
11:02And I think the administration is determined to put the pedal to the metal in
11:06that regard. That gives us much safer, more resilient supply chains.
11:09That makes America and our neighbors more safe, secure, and powerful.
11:14That gives us better, more safe options when trying to deal with change agents like
11:19China and other parts of the world.
11:21So I see that as conducive to what we're trying to do to get to
11:25the great game, which is to contain the malign influences of China and beat them
11:30in every way, shape, or form on economy to space and technology.
11:34What should we do with Cuba?
11:36You know, Trump talks about it as something thrown into the mix here.
11:41It's not. Obviously, it's a much smaller country than what we're dealing with in the
11:45case of Iran or even Venezuela.
11:48But it's very close. I mean, I feel like I could swim there from here.
11:51Probably not. But maybe Clay could.
11:53It's not far. So what do you think?
11:56What should we do? Well, I hear there's sharks in those waters.
12:01So I'd advise against making the swim.
12:03But it is near. I think that the president is relatively on track on just
12:09keeping the pressure and inducements in place to see if there's something less than the
12:15Venezuela model available to push that towards transition.
12:18The demonstration of Venezuela has to have some impact.
12:22The demonstration effect of going after the cartels in Mexico has to have some effect.
12:27Do those two things well, and maybe we get a change in Cuba more by
12:33evolution than our having to go in and do it in a kinetic way.
12:36I think that's far preferable.
12:38Although I would love to see the day when all those Cubans and you're near
12:41abroad are singing and dancing in the streets of Havana again.
12:46Sounds good to me. Steve Yates.
12:48Good to see you, my friend.
12:49Get some sleep. Go save.
12:51Go save the world over there in South Korea.
12:53Thank you. Thank you, Clay.
12:57It's going to be. It was great.
12:59We'll see what happens. But I do think Cuba on the back burner here is
13:03maybe one that we get a resolution in some way sooner rather than later.
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15:27Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
15:30We've got a bunch of talkbacks.
15:32We'll get to some of those.
15:33We also have Brandon Gill.
15:35He'll update us on what's going on on Capitol Hill.
15:39And let's see. G, Wendell from Palm Beach, he wants to talk back to Gracie.
15:45He wants to hear more.
15:47We're going to have a love connection here.
15:49But he's very impressed with her work.
15:51Wendell, Palm Beach, Florida, News Radio 1290 WJNO says as follows.
15:55You just had a woman call in commenting on the No Man Left Behind by
16:00Pete Hegseth. You guys missed a gem.
16:03She said she was in special ops combat.
16:06I'd like to know more about that.
16:08That's a very big rarity and low percentage of women in special ops.
16:14Have her call back and tell us the story.
16:16That's interesting. There you go.
16:18Wendell wants more. Gracie, you can call.
16:20back and let us know um florida uh cut e news radio wfla this is
16:26what uh talkback listener e had to say so jd vance wasn't happy with trump
16:36starting a confrontation with iran so if he don't have the stomach for that why
16:45would he even have the stomach to be our president that's a bad look well
16:52look i mean a lot of people wish that we had never done anything at
16:55all with iran and i think jd had that perspective he advocated for it the
16:59president chose not to make that choice and i think jd would make the argument
17:03probably buck if he runs by saying i don't want to have anything to do
17:07uh in terms of uh serious entanglements with other countries i don't think it's that
17:12jd lacks the stomach for the conflict with iran it's that he thought it was
17:17unwise and unnecessary at some level that's a different thing right it's not i think
17:22this is a necessary thing but i'm unwilling to handle the uh the challenges of
17:28it or to handle the the burden of it he's just like jd saying i
17:32don't think this is a good idea but yeah but he's the vice president not
17:36the president so it's not his call so he's now supporting trump in this and
17:40trying to get some kind of a negotiated end to it uh but yeah so
17:44i wouldn't say it's that jd doesn't have the stomach if i if i said
17:47that that's kind of uh i would change my verbiage there it's that uh he
17:51he preferred that we not do this uh because he didn't think it was in
17:56america's interest to do it uh under all the circumstances i mean that seems pretty
18:00clear i also think again we mentioned it but that new york times article which
18:05i would actually encourage you guys to read was very detailed about the meetings that
18:10led to the uh attack on iran um i actually think it's a strength that
18:15the president is getting a wide variety of perspectives if everybody agrees sometimes it means
18:22it's a slam dunk and there is no other position but it sounds like rubio
18:26jd vance uh had nuanced positions on whether or not this was smart to do
18:31uh hegseth in the reports was more gung -ho trump wanted to do it and
18:37going around the table and asking people's opinions and asking them to make their arguments
18:41and then ultimately letting yourself as the leader weigh in isn't that what we want
18:46people to do hear all the arguments and then make what you think is the
18:50best that's what the whole purpose of an election is that's why we put trump
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20:04we've been saying to you we're focusing here today a lot more uh while the
20:08ceasefire negotiations are underway in with iran back on the home front which what which
20:13is what matters most to us and something that happened that it was kind of
20:16hard to hard to believe that this is what some members of congress are focused
20:20on but the the dignidad as in spanish for dignity act of 2025 was introduced
20:28by congresswoman salazar got some bipartisan votes goes to a whole bunch of stuff and
20:36by the way she's i think the district right next to the one that i
20:39live in i have um my congresswoman clay is uh the hat wearer yes the
20:45lady the cowboy hat the democrat i can't remember her name right now i should
20:49remember her name she's my congresswoman i work in politics kind of but uh i'll
20:53remember in a second but uh frederica wilson there we go frederica wilson um but
20:58anyway the dignidad act got brought up here congressman gill out of texas does not
21:05like the dignidad act and uh has had some public statements about how it looks
21:10a whole lot like amnesty uh congressman gill great to have you on the show
21:14thanks for calling in uh you're actually can i can i i just want to
21:18play for you first what this was from uh july of 25 so it's a
21:23little bit a little ways back but this is what representative salazar was saying then
21:28on local news here in miami about the dignidad act play this is cup 15
21:33we give them dignity at some point in the future another legislator will write another
21:39law to give them path to citizenship right now what we need to do is
21:43to buy peace for these people allow them to stay to continue working because they
21:48are needed congressman gill uh i don't i don't know it sounds to me like
21:53how about we just deport the illegals and enforce the law what's going on here
21:58well thanks for having me on yeah the the last people that i want to
22:02buy peace for are the people who broke our laws and shouldn't be here to
22:05begin with i want to buy peace for the americans whose jobs have been taken
22:10by illegal aliens whose wages have been suppressed buy peace for the mothers whose children
22:15who have been slaughtered by fentanyl because we've had open borders for many years those
22:19are the people we ought to be focused on and we ran an election last
22:24cycle on a platform of mass deportations and remember there was nothing subtle about it
22:29we were holding up mass deportation signs that the rnc as we all remember that's
22:35how we want that's how we got a trifecta and the president got won the
22:38popular vote so to turn around and start pushing an amnesty bill and that's what
22:44this is this is amnesty plain and simple the dignidad act is a bill that
22:49would allow 12 million illegal aliens who are currently in the united states and subject
22:54to deportation to be given legal status and stay here it would hamstring the president's
22:59ability to deport more illegal aliens on top of that and it would allow illegal
23:04aliens who were previously deported under trump's first administration to come back into the united
23:09states if they meet certain criteria so this is a grotesque betrayal of everything we
23:16ran on i'm kind of shocked we're even talking about it but here we are
23:20and that's why i've been fighting so hard to kill this bill you're a young
23:25guy i'm guessing that you want to work a lot are you frustrated with the
23:30schedule in the house and the senate that it feels like you guys are never
23:35in session and not passing very many bills it has to be infuriating it it's
23:42extremely infuriating i mean i i ran for office so that i could fight for
23:47my district and the people of texas and actually get real legislation done but in
23:52order to do that you got to be in session i mean we should have
23:55been in session this week whenever dhs isn't funded we should be working on a
24:00reconciliation bill to fund it to fund other to do other conservative priorities um and
24:06we're not and it has been extremely frustrating so yes of course we should be
24:11there we shouldn't be in washington pushing amnesty bills but we should be in washington
24:15funding mass deportations so i mean this is a this is a they call it
24:20a path to citizenship it's amnesty because we've gone through this before back to the
24:25dignidad act here uh we we've gone back to this before with the reagan amnesty
24:30unfortunately which had all these enforcement mechanisms and oh you have to prove this and
24:34prove that and no just everybody who was here illegally was made was made permanent
24:39and there were people court cases going on 15 years later with people saying oh
24:44no i was covered under this too right so it just creates a huge mess
24:47which people should know about by the way that whenever whenever you try to create
24:52one class of amnesty there's going to be all these people that then sue and
24:56they want to be in that class and there's going to be legislation that they
24:58make the class bigger the whole thing becomes a total mess but brandon you're in
25:02congress why are republicans any republicans in the midst of i might add a lot
25:09of uh focus on what's going on in iran right now or has been going
25:14on recently why would they put something like this it feels kind of sneaky like
25:19we have republicans voting on this right now what's going on you know it it's
25:24amazing that this has even come up and i i can't speak to the motives
25:28of you know i'm maria is a friend mike lawler who's defended this bill as
25:32a friend their colleagues i can't speak to their motives but what i can say
25:36is there still is an element in our party who who is just handicapped by
25:42by big business interests who want mass migration who want more cheap labor flowing across
25:49our border constantly and would love to see illegal aliens being being given amnesty because
25:55that just means cheaper labor and bigger profit margins for them whether it's big agribusiness
25:59or big uh big whatever else and those are the interests that i think we
26:04should be very aware of and know that they're not the ones who are voting
26:08for us they're not the ones that we represent we represent the people in our
26:12district whose whose lives are being transformed whose neighborhoods are unrecognizable now because of open
26:19borders and mass migration those are the people who elected president trump back in 2015
26:24and again in 2020 and again in 2024 those are the ones that we ought
26:29to be looking out for so the idea that we should again even be discussing
26:34amnesty and amnesty is is the program that gives the left political power i mean
26:41the left feeds on illegal immigration as their path to power the idea that we
26:46would in any way go along with that is nuts and it and by the
26:51way it is a massive and unforgivable betrayal of our voters um who elected us
26:56to do the opposite you know if we went down this path it would tear
27:00the republican party in two um and and it would be we would be dealing
27:05with this 10 years 15 years down the road how do you think james tallarico
27:09is going to do in november uh you know i i i am I have
27:16supported Ken Paxton, but I think regardless of who gets the Republican nomination, they're going
27:21to beat Tallarico. I mean, you've got a guy who has talked about God being
27:25non -binary, about how transgenders need abortion care, about how the Bible has biblical justification
27:35for abortion. I mean, you have a guy who just regurgitated every weird, woke aphorism
27:41that the left came up with over the past several years.
27:44And now it's great to see that all of that is being exposed.
27:48I mean, the people of Texas don't want some kind of weird, you know, weirdo
27:54fake pastor who wants transgenders in their little kids' schools as their senator.
28:00I mean, we just want like a normal conservative to represent us.
28:04So I don't think Tallarico has a chance.
28:07With that said, we've got to make sure that our people turn out to vote
28:11in November and that we do get to the polls to make sure that he
28:15doesn't doesn't gain any traction.
28:19Congressman Gill, appreciate you joining us from Texas.
28:22Thanks for calling in today.
28:24Hey, thanks for having me.
28:28Clay, I think. Well, no, I was just looking.
28:30I'm looking at my quad box.
28:32Melania Trump is speaking relating to the Epstein situation.
28:38It is now being covered by CNN and MSNBC, not by Fox News.
28:44I don't know. I'm trying to monitor it.
28:46We'll give you she just finished.
28:48We'll give you some takes on that and maybe some clips, because this is I
28:53was not expecting a press conference from the first lady at all, much less one
28:58on the Epstein case. So we will talk about it when we come back.
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30:56T's and C's apply. We said there was a press conference going on as we
30:59were talking with Congressman Brandon Gill, Melania Trump.
31:02We weren't able to hear the whole thing, but it had to do with Jeffrey
31:06Epstein. And this is, I think, surprising that they had a press conference.
31:12But before we play these cuts, my reaction anytime a story that is not a
31:17story becomes a story is something is coming.
31:20And, I don't know, somebody's going to write a story, somebody is trying to connect
31:25her to Epstein. It doesn't make any sense to me why a Thursday afternoon Melania
31:31Trump press conference on Epstein would be happening otherwise.
31:35So, here are a couple of the cuts.
31:38First, cut 31. Again, I don't think anybody was really talking about Melania Trump and
31:44Epstein. But, listen, cut 31.
31:46I've never been friends with Epstein.
31:48Donald and I were invited to the same parties as Epstein from time to time,
31:55since overlapping in social circles is common in New York City and Palm Beach.
32:01To be clear, I never had a relationship with Epstein or his accomplice, Maxwell.
32:08My email reply to Maxwell cannot be catered as anything more than casual correspondence.
32:16My polite reply to her email doesn't amount to anything more than a tribal note.
32:24I am not Epstein's victim.
32:26Epstein did not introduce me to Donald Trump.
32:31All right, more, Buck. Cut 32.
32:34Never had any knowledge. I don't know, has there been a report, I'm going to
32:39be honest with you, about Melania and Jelaine Maxwell?
32:43ever having emailed i haven't seen that before team you can do a quick google
32:47news search so maybe that's the story she's trying to get ahead of because maybe
32:52there's some email dump out there that somebody is reporting on i just i don't
32:56remember having seen this story to be frank with you guys that she referenced there
32:59but here is the second part uh of that address uh that she just had
33:04the press conference where she spoke cut 32 i have never had any knowledge of
33:10epstein abuse of his victims i was never involved in any capacity i was not
33:18a participant was never on epstein's plane and never visited his private island i don't
33:27have not noticed these things being said publicly now she because there are lots of
33:34things unfortunately said about the first lady or anyone in trump's orbit that are a
33:39super negative nature uh associated with um uh just kind of the media world we
33:45live in today particularly the social media driven world but buck am i wrong have
33:50you seen any of these stories like the epstein stories basically vanished so the fact
33:56that you would have a white house press conference means to me there must be
33:59some story that is coming up about melania i there's some reason they had the
34:04press conference this is a total you know shot out of the dark i have
34:10no idea that this was coming i it was this was a random all of
34:13a sudden the white house having a press conference about melania talking about epstein stuff
34:16so i i would assume that they're like what you said is the only assumption
34:22you can make is probably some hit piece that's trying to come out that's trying
34:25to tie her to uh epstein and she's just getting ahead of it by saying
34:30look this is trash it's garbage and there you have it um but yeah i
34:34i i'm a little surprised clay just because unless there's really uh salacious or you
34:42know um i don't know i mean unless the accusations in the piece are i
34:47would have assumed just ignore it what why is it i i don't get that
34:51i don't know i'm a little caught i'm a little caught off uh off guard
34:54by this a little flat -footed i don't understand why they would have her do
34:58this press conference i 100 agree with all that and again we were live doing
35:03an interview so i wasn't able to hear the whole thing of it but the
35:06way that i would put it is it's now the lead story on msnbc and
35:11cnn and msnbc both took it live and now they're just going to show more
35:15photos of melania on alongside of epstein so again the headline is first lady melania
35:22trump denies relationship with jeffrey epstein it's frustrating and i get it um but a
35:30lot of times when you say i didn't have anything to do with x or
35:35y then the stories come out and the headline is putting you alongside of that
35:40person again does that make sense and i understand it and it's particularly frustrating i
35:45would imagine because her husband is the president and he answers questions all day long
35:50every day and he can fight fire with fire and she may be frustrated because
35:55she may feel like she's being attacked and needs to be able to respond to
36:00but the only way this makes sense to me buck is if there is some
36:05sort of story coming out and they're trying to get ahead of it that's the
36:08only thing that makes sense and you say well how would you know a lot
36:12of times they request comments on a story something of that nature um and again
36:17there was an intimation or a suggestion that maybe she had emailed at some point
36:22of time with jolaine maxwell um and so maybe there's a story coming out about
36:27that i asked the team to look it up did anybody find any google stories
36:31about that i don't even remember that story and again i'm not claiming that i'm
36:34plugged in on every nuance of this uh aspect um but again the only reason
36:40we're even talking about this is because of her press conference and i would imagine
36:44there'll be a lot of people in media also talking about this only because of
36:49um the press conference which makes the timing of the press conference strange hmm yeah
36:56no the whole thing is kind of by the way the whole epstein thing is
36:59gone it feels like every you know that um those memes where you have the
37:05guy trying to put the fire out and then he like throws something on it
37:08and the fire just gets way bigger than it otherwise would have been i haven't
37:13heard anybody talking about epstein in a long time and then suddenly there's a press
37:18conference and uh we're talking about epstein again in the middle of iran and it's
37:24now the lead story on msnbc i wonder if msnbc is going to say now
37:29by the way there was actually a colbert joke uh guys what was what was
37:34the number of the colbert joke about about the iran here we go this is
37:38cut 13 play this for a second play this trump explained that he agreed to
37:41the ceasefire because quote we have already met and exceeded all military objectives it's true
37:48this war reached all of its objectives it's been a week since anyone mentioned the
37:53epstein files so they're saying that the iran war clay is to stop people talking
37:59about epstein what are the chances are tonight over on jimmy kimmel or colbert show
38:02it's going to be melania held an epstein conference to distract from the iran war
38:07negotiations going badly That's actually very funny.
38:13I just, I can't pretend to even tell you other than there's a story coming
38:18out and they're trying to get ahead of it.
38:20Why in the world there would be a conference right now, press conference about Epstein.
38:25We'll talk about all this tomorrow.
38:26See if we're right. Thanks for hanging.
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