Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck - Mar 29 2026
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3:35Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck.
3:39Let me give you a couple of history recommendations.
3:42I've been down this weekend reading Rick Atkinson.
3:46He's got a World War II trilogy.
3:48The one that I'm reading right now is about the war in North Africa, which
3:52I knew very little about during World War II.
3:54But given that it is Washington's birthday, Rick Atkinson's Revolutionary War trilogy.
4:02He's got two of the three done.
4:04If you are looking for a deep, engrossing, incredibly well done, not political, just write
4:11-up of the Revolutionary War, it is so well done.
4:15I give it my highest recommendation.
4:18And again, you can just get totally lost in it.
4:21I'm almost done with your killer angels, by the way.
4:23I read a few books at a time on Kindle.
4:25I'm almost finished with it.
4:26It's fantastic. That's a very solid record.
4:28I think 1976 won the Pulitzer Prize.
4:31It's great. Let's see. Ray in New Orleans.
4:35Let's celebrate. Tomorrow is Mardi Gras.
4:38F, we'll close him out.
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4:42Hey, guys. Y 'all talk about President's Day and how it's a goofy holiday and
4:45stuff. It's also down here in New Orleans.
4:48It's Mardi Gras. So right now, it's Monday.
4:51It's actually Looney Gras or Fat Monday.
4:55But we're having a great old time down here.
4:57So we've got a lot of people at work and a lot of people not
5:00at work because we're celebrating Mardi Gras.
5:02So happy Mardi Gras and y 'all have a great President's Day.
5:07We will have a good Mardi Gras tomorrow with the baby in the cake.
5:11You know, the baby in the cake story, Buck.
5:12It's fun. Yes. The king cake, whatever.
5:16Isn't that? That's right. Yeah.
5:17Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck.
5:21Some of you get to celebrate the president.
5:26Kind of a weird holiday, isn't it, when you think about it?
5:28Well, what exactly is the holiday?
5:29Well, it's just Washington's birthday, and then they expanded it to Lincoln, and now it's
5:34just kind of a weird construct.
5:36It's like expanded to Lincoln, but it's like we're doing a dual birthday.
5:39What kind of nonsense is this?
5:42It's a weird holiday. Let's be honest.
5:45Let's be honest, everybody. What is President's Day really for?
5:48Getting a great deal on a mattress, maybe a lawnmower, perhaps some outdoor furniture?
5:55Like, that's really what President's Day is all about.
5:57It's a time for businesses to establish a post -Christmas sale when they can move
6:04inventory. Am I right or am I right?
6:06I mean, that certainly is the thing you would see back in the day.
6:09I don't know if they advertised that as much.
6:11Back in the day when newspapers existed, there were always mattress cells.
6:14That was the big President's Day.
6:16I don't know that they really pull that anymore.
6:18But, by the way, since it is President's Day, and I know we're going to
6:21get to Obama, but did you see, I was actually stunned by something that I
6:28saw come down, which I think is indicative of how successful they have been in
6:33defining modern -day ideas of the presidency.
6:38Did you see the rankings for people today of who the best presidents are?
6:42Oh, no, okay. I thought you were off -roading, as you tend to do, and
6:45all of a sudden we're going to be talking about some football thing.
6:47No, this is actually about presidents.
6:49Who do they have? Directly on the President's Day.
6:51I mean, some of this is not going to surprise you.
6:53According to Americans, this is from YouGov, Abraham Lincoln is seen as the greatest president
6:59of all time. I think a lot of people would kind of nod along and
7:02say, you know, winning the Civil War, kind of a big deal, ending slavery.
7:06George Washington, you don't like that.
7:08I think you've got to give G.
7:09I think G -dubs, it's got to be G -dubs.
7:12I'm sorry. G -dubs. He's in third.
7:14This one really surprised me.
7:15John F. Kennedy is second.
7:17What? Get out of here.
7:19Trash. Listen to this. Listen to this.
7:21A la Pubelle in the trash.
7:24Abraham Lincoln, one. John F.
7:26Kennedy, two. George Washington, three.
7:29This one surprised me a little bit.
7:31I think it's actually just a sign that people don't know there's more than one
7:35Roosevelt. Theodore Roosevelt, fourth place.
7:39And then Franklin Roosevelt, sixth place.
7:42Thomas Jefferson in fifth place.
7:44This one also surprised me.
7:46John Adams? Who is like the big John Adams fans out there?
7:50Like that he would be the seventh best president of all time?
7:54A little bit of a surprise.
7:55I mean, look, I think the founders, you got to give the early guys a
8:01little bit of a, you know, extra points for, you know, Washington.
8:06It's like if he, you know, Kamala messes up.
8:09She goes on a book tour.
8:10Washington messed up. He was going to get hanged.
8:13Right. It's a different deal.
8:15And the whole country was potentially going to cease to exist either way.
8:19Yes. But I'm saying, I'm saying that.
8:22Maybe a little bit more significant for Washington than others.
8:25Yeah. Yeah. I think you got to give Washington a little bit more.
8:29I think it's interesting that Jefferson doesn't appear on these lists.
8:32Well, Jefferson is at five.
8:34Oh, he's at five. Okay.
8:35Yeah. John Adams, seven. Ronald Reagan, eight.
8:39Madison, nine. And then it starts to get wonky.
8:43Obama, nine. Get out of here.
8:46What list is this? Is this the communist .com?
8:49What is this list? How Americans rate presidents.
8:52This one blew my mind.
8:55Jimmy Carter, plus six. The communists.
8:58This is all trash. The bots from India have made this thing up.
9:01There's no way. What jumped out to me is, okay, Richard Nixon, not very popular.
9:06Joe Biden, not very popular.
9:08George W. Bush. A lot of current presidents, by and large, not very popular.
9:12But this one, Andrew Jackson, minus three.
9:17And I don't think a lot of people think about this.
9:19But when they were trying to take Jackson off the $20 bill, which seems to
9:23basically have ended, they have basically created in the world the idea that all Andrew
9:31Jackson did in his eight years as president was the Trail of Tears.
9:35And I thought this was interesting because when you and I were in school, Andrew
9:41Jackson would have been considered one of the best presidents in the country.
9:44And they have been so successful at defining Jackson entirely based on the Trail of
9:50Tears that he now has collapsed in his overall popularity.
9:54Well, this is why this stuff matters is because these fights over history are actually
9:58fights over the narrative in the present, right?
10:00It all is meant to influence our thinking and our feelings about what is in
10:05the here and now. There is power at stake with the history that we believe
10:09or with the history that we accept.
10:11And so that's why the left is always rewriting history as fast as they can.
10:15You noted Nixon. I know we're all supposed to hate Nixon so much.
10:18The Democrat Party in this country hated Nixon because he was a staunch anti -communist.
10:22And he was right about the fact that they were a bunch of damn commies
10:25and sold out the country at the highest levels.
10:27So they were kind of ticked off about that.
10:28So they tried to get him back.
10:30There's a lot of stuff that people don't.
10:31And you look up the Venona Project, which was a top secret military program about
10:35the penetrations of the United States government.
10:37All Democrats, by the way, including at some of the very highest levels of our
10:41government. This was a real thing.
10:43It was declassified in the 80s, I think it was.
10:45And the communist menace was far more.
10:47Kids don't even learn about this in school.
10:49And how many people even know about the Project Venona?
10:51They're very, very. few um but clay my point on all this is yeah of
10:56course they want to find presidents of the past and elevate them that are um
11:01meant to push certain ideas and policies uh today i mean the notion of barack
11:07obama is a great president that's that's absurd the notion of jimmy carter is a
11:11great as a great president carter is absurd it's even crazy for me uh well
11:14i mean i actually think that carter probably did less damage actively brock obama's signature
11:19thing well you know we should we get into their obama well yeah let's get
11:23into let me hit you with one more thing to you because i think you
11:25made a good point about the fact that the history is being used to dictate
11:28the way we talk today they tried to replace andrew jackson with harriet tubman i
11:32think that's been somewhat forestalled but remember they were going to replace alexander hamilton on
11:39the ten dollar bill but hamilton the musical was so popular that they rescinded the
11:46idea of taking him off money this is 200 years after he died in the
11:52uh duel with aaron burr so if you're out there and you're thinking oh a
11:57lot of these guys have to have fixed historical records because it's been 200 years
12:02since they died jackson has been torn down really in the 21st century meanwhile alexander
12:09hamilton who was obviously never a president has surged up entirely based on the way
12:15they're talked about today it's not like they're continuing to alter the trajectory of their
12:20presidencies or we're still having fall out from it that's because a lot of americans
12:24unfortunately when they think of hamilton alexander hamilton they think of a puerto rican guy
12:30rapping badly so that's true that's why he gets to stay on the ten dollar
12:35bill i i mean it is really crazy okay on obama he did a sit
12:39-down interview he said a lot of things let's start running through this this is
12:43the most this is the most quintessential obama thing in existence which is to say
12:51something that is that he in fact is self -refuting in the statement itself he
12:56was sitting down with uh some left -wing podcast guy and here we go obama
13:02this is cut nine about how we the right are angry and mean and divisive
13:08unlike them the left they them who are warm cuddly fantastic and inclusive play nine
13:15the other side does the mean angry demagoguery you know exclusive us them you know
13:27divisive politics that's their that's that's their home court our court is coming together our
13:38court is look you know a great example wasn't political bad bunnies halftime i knew
13:45you were gonna say that well it was it resonated it was smart because it
13:52wasn't preaching it was showing it was demonstrating and displaying this is what a community
13:59is clay he's wrong on all counts but i also love the unlike those other
14:06jerks we're really nice and inclusive we're the inclusive side while being exclusive of them
14:12barack obama's tenure was i think uh more than anything else characterized by bringing back
14:20race riots in the 21st century blm 1 .0 it brought people together while they
14:25were burning down neighborhoods out of anti -white rage that's not good i wonder how
14:31plugged den obama actually is on very much that's going on how much is him
14:38knowingly lying versus just not really paying that much attention to the day -to -day
14:44trajectories of politics and the reason why i ask that is remember kamala tried to
14:49call him out um you know go to the bullpen so to speak and obama
14:54came and tried to campaign for kamala and i thought was really bad and seemed
14:59tone deaf he lectured black guys that they needed to vote for her and that
15:04it was sexist of them not to be supporting kamala in the same way that
15:09he was supported and he never really got engaged with biden at all because i
15:16think obama knew biden was out to lunch and wasn't able to actually do the
15:21job and so when i see and hear these sit downs he sounds pretty out
15:28of touch with what's going on right now and obviously when you're the president of
15:33the united states you have to be at least aware of what's going on i
15:37think he's just a rich out of touch leftist like many of the people that
15:42are in hollywood right now um and uh what cut exactly did you play because
15:48there's so many i played nine uh but there's so many so many others we
15:52can get into here we could do the whole show just on obama's nonsense 11
15:57uh obama says they have a much harder job than republicans because they're not as
16:02mean uh other than trying to kill trump a couple of times uh cut 11
16:07yes we have a harder job because sometimes i think we're tough on democrats saying
16:12why aren't you being as mean tough and nasty as there well you know when
16:16i was president of the united you know when i was president of the united
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16:20the united unilaterally ordered the military to go into some red state and harass and
16:28intimidate a governor there or cut off funding for states that didn't vote for me.
16:34I could have exercised that prerogative, but that is contrary to how I think our
16:39democracy is supposed to work.
16:40And I think we shouldn't get discouraged by the fact that we have a tougher
16:45job. What we should do is expect that our side is smart enough to figure
16:50it out. Clay, Obama explicitly threatened to cut off education funds to I think it
16:56was North Carolina over the bathroom gender policy bill.
17:02Essentially, you have to let trannies use whatever bathroom they want or else we're going
17:05to in school or else we're going to cut off.
17:08So he actually was our game.
17:10Yeah, he was thuggish in his use of government power.
17:15He sued nuns for heaven's sakes.
17:17And he's complaining about Trump enforcing immigration law.
17:20Really? He's a nice guy.
17:22I would like to hear someone interviewed who is on the left.
17:26And I would like the question to be, we hit a 125 year low in
17:32murders. Do you think Donald Trump deserves any credit for that at all?
17:37Because you're talking about him sending troops into red states and sorry, whether Obama could
17:42have done it, sending troops into blue states.
17:45The results of that have been that way more people who tended to vote Democrat
17:48are alive today than otherwise would.
17:51I would just like to hear somebody say, does Trump deserve any credit at all?
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22:49Sundays with Clay and Buck.
22:53Mitchell has an awful take, I think.
22:56Just listening to Tuesday's podcast on iHeart, and to summarize your show, sounds like that
23:03Clay has shaved his beard, become a Swifty, after publishing a book titled Balls, which
23:10I bought and read. Sounds like he has lost his.
23:14Buck, you have got to pull his man card.
23:17Wow. A lot of shots there.
23:20Both barrels. Both barrels unleashed on that one.
23:22I was, I'm a little taken aback right now.
23:27That's, Clay, I gotta say, I think Clay's mustache is fabulous.
23:31I think it's a fabulous stache.
23:34Uh, you know, I'm, I'm a big fan.
23:37Uh, I think that he should stay.
23:38I think we stay with the stache.
23:39I don't know anyone. I am allowed to shave the mustache when it gets to
23:4560 degrees in Nashville, which I was looking at.
23:48Um, and the weather bounces around a lot this time of year in Nashville, but
23:52I think potentially Monday, I mean, then I'll have to make a decision because it's
23:56going to be over 60 degrees on Monday or Tuesday in Nashville.
23:59And, uh, the mustache doesn't have to stay VIP email from Dan.
24:04He writes, remember what happened when Cam, uh, Kamala ran in a real presidential nomination
24:10contest question mark. Yes, it was sad exclamation point.
24:15And I think Clay is forgetting just how sad it was.
24:18You know, he's getting a little, Clay's getting a little big for his britches.
24:21He suckered me in to my emotional bet on will Kamala run again, which was,
24:27that was a kind of a crazy take fine.
24:29But Kamala being the nominee where you mark this one down, guys, Gavin Newsom is
24:34going to be the nominee.
24:35Kamala Harris is not going to be the nominee.
24:37Clay's going to be wrong on this one.
24:38And somehow, whenever he's wrong, I will say this, he's the betting guy.
24:42So this makes sense because he's wrong a fair amount, but whenever he's wrong, there's
24:46no stake at stake. Whenever I'm wrong, somehow I owe him a stake.
24:50This is the, this is the problem.
24:52That's why the odds are Gavin Newsom is a huge favorite right now to be
24:56the Democrat nominee in 2028.
24:58Kamala is a big underdog.
25:00So I'm saying on Tuesday night, I was out to dinner in LA with five
25:04of our buddies and all five of them thought I was crazy.
25:07And we, I took them on, took the bet, uh, to say that Kamala is,
25:11uh, is not going to, is going to be the nominee.
25:14The nice thing about being crazy is that you're not necessarily alone.
25:18Richard, this is talk back D from South Carolina, Columbia, South Carolina.
25:23He is also in the Kamala loony bin with you.
25:26Play it. Oh, it's on the list, but we will get to another one here
25:30in the meantime. B Colleen from Tucson, Arizona, speaking about the kidnapping, hit it.
25:36I live in Tucson, Arizona, and I have a question I wish you would address.
25:42If the kidnapper took her into Mexico, wouldn't that be pretty easy to track?
25:47Because I know crossing that border is a big deal.
25:50They really interrogate you to go into Mexico from Tucson anyway.
25:55Uh, it's a good question.
25:56I've never crossed. I don't think that she's been taken into Mexico.
26:00I mean, I don't think that I'm just saying in the United States.
26:04Probably. Yes, I think so.
26:06Uh, I think that they're going to find who did.
26:08I'm, I'm very confident. Maybe I shouldn't be.
26:10They're going to find who did this.
26:12We just want Savannah's mom to be returned on, on harm.
26:16That's the part of this.
26:17That's so obviously up in the air.
26:20I'm very confident they're going to find who did this.
26:22I think it's really a hard thing to do this, given all the attention, all
26:25the resources on this and get away with it.
26:27Yeah. My question was given that they are somewhat close to the border, is there
26:33an argument that she would be easier to hide in Mexico than she would be
26:38elsewhere? Uh, well, yes, that I think is probably the case.
26:42Clay, getting across the border.
26:44Remember getting into the United States is super hard.
26:46Now getting out is probably a lot easier.
26:51That's what that was my thought, but I've never, I mean, in this individual may
26:54cross, you know, there are places I've been there where you could just get in
26:57a pickup truck and you could just hit it and get into Mexico.
27:01And yes, America, remember America can't, is not going to pursue into Mexico.
27:06So now you're going to call the federales.
27:08Good luck with that one.
27:09You know, they got, they got other things to do.
27:11Uh, we got a couple more talkbacks.
27:12Yeah. See Sarah from Milwaukee, a brilliant lady.
27:15play it play i adore you but i am with buck 100 on this one
27:20there is no way that kamala is going to win the nomination this time around
27:27sarah sarah sounds just like an astute and well -read and prescient lady um if
27:34this were a few months after the 2020 election and we had come on and
27:41i had said hey you know 2024 i'm already thinking ahead trump is not only
27:45going to win the nomination he's going to win the popular vote what odds do
27:50you think i could have gotten on that it would have been crazy here's richard
27:52now in columbia south carolina and astute gamecock let's listen clay this is richard in
27:58south carolina and your take on kamala in the 2028 primary is 100 accurate the
28:08primary is going to be about angry women and racism and the thought that kamala
28:16is owed an opportunity for a full cycle newsom has no shot i i agree
28:24with richard richard was pretty eloquent and pretty eloquent and well thought out on that
28:28one which is disappointing i thought he was just going to say some nonsense damn
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