Team 47 - Our State of the Union
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0:49My friends, it was the best State of the Union speech I've ever seen.
0:54I'm just going to come right out and say it.
0:56A little bit of a mea culpa, actually, because I'm a little salty about State
1:01of the Unions. Most of them are boring because they go too long.
1:05I watched every minute of this one, as I tend to always do, because this
1:08is our job. But it was not boring.
1:10It was soaring. It was majestic.
1:13It was pageantry. It was fantastic, honestly.
1:17I feel like a movie reviewer.
1:18I laughed. I cried. I felt my heart sore.
1:22It was fantastic. I mean, it was the best.
1:24I could not say enough good things about Trump's State of the Union.
1:28He was absolutely dialed in, locked in, en fuego, all of the above.
1:33Now, we will dive into some of the policy, of course, as well as the
1:38very well -deserved victory lap that was the bulk of the opening, certainly, of the
1:45speech. And the Democrat responses, oh, my gosh.
1:49This Democrat party is nuts.
1:51In fact, I think one of the most powerful moments, Clay, of the entire—now, look,
1:58before I get into the Democrats, actually, I want to focus on the positive here
2:02because many of you are probably familiar with Internet terminology and, for example, the red
2:09pill, which comes from the Matrix, which I've been saying for a long time.
2:13Actually, I used to say this on my show, Clay, when I was doing a
2:15Saturday show for, like, five people on the Internet.
2:18I would say, guys, you know, we've got to take the red pill here.
2:20And it became very popular because of the movie The Matrix.
2:24And it means to see things as they truly are.
2:26But now there are different pills with corresponding colors.
2:30And there are people on the right—there are people that will say you're taking a—a
2:36white pill means you're seeing things in a very sort of benevolent light.
2:40Red pill is you're seeing things as they are.
2:42Blue pill is you're part of the normies, or you still have the world sort
2:48of shrouded and presented to you without seeing with clarity, which is from The Matrix.
2:54And then the black pill is I'm just—everything is bad.
2:58We're never going to win.
2:59Everything is terrible. There's some black pilling that happens sometimes on the right where people
3:04just want to get down.
3:05And I saw a little of this in the commentary of, but what about this?
3:09Listen, Trump didn't do that.
3:10Clay, I just want to set this marker because I don't know—I don't say that
3:14every State of the Union address is great.
3:15In fact, most of them, I think, are a waste of time.
3:17Most of them I do because it's my job.
3:19Not only was this the best State of the Union speech, that was a marker,
3:23a high point, I think, for looking back at what has been, in its totality,
3:30an unbelievable first year of Trump's second term.
3:33And I'm somebody who was there in the trenches with the fighting back against the
3:38Russia collusion stuff, which was totally messing Trump up in the first term and sandbagging
3:44and, you know, undermining everything he was doing and dealing with the bad picks that
3:48he had in that first administration.
3:49I'm not a, oh, rose -colored glasses guy, everything is awesome.
3:54Clay, before we get into anything else, I just—I think it's worth taking this moment
3:58of this administration has delivered enormously on securing the border, on bringing down the crime
4:07rate nationally, on a booming economy, we can go through this piece by piece.
4:13The data speaks to it.
4:15Everyone needs to take a moment, enjoy the win, enjoy the victory, because, unfortunately, this
4:22too shall pass. He will not be president forever.
4:25He might not even have the House for more than another year, and the Democrats
4:29will get into this, Clay.
4:31They're insane. They are a wacko party.
4:35Well, I mean, I think that, to me, is everything comes down to a couple
4:40of moments, even more so in a social media age.
4:44Most people did not watch a two -hour speech, and you loved it.
4:49I got to be honest with you, it would have been better if it were
4:52an hour 15 instead of nearly two hours.
4:56So I was watching. I was also doing what a lot of other people are
5:01doing, probably. I was watching a basketball game simultaneously on a second screen.
5:05Okay, this is the most Clay thing ever.
5:06You're watching a basketball, we're switching roles here.
5:09Usually you're the one that loved the movie, so to speak, and I trash it.
5:12You're not trashing it, but you're saying it was too long, which is what I
5:15was worried was going to happen.
5:16I actually sat through the whole thing and thought that he really pulled the whole
5:20thing off without it. I mean, look, I think all state of the union should
5:23be 30 minutes, but that's me.
5:24I'm crazy. I'm crazy. Um, I thought that, uh, it went on too long with
5:31that in, uh, as my criticism, because I, I, I think, um, it just dragged
5:36to me. I thought it was the most optimistic patriotic speech that Trump may have
5:43ever given. And if you were just a reasonable person, right?
5:48Not someone who is a Trump deranged psychopath.
5:52And you just watch that.
5:54I think the results would be somewhat similar to what, uh, CNN actually showed, which
6:00was 64 % of the speech viewers really liked it.
6:04I would say there's about 35 % of people.
6:07Trump could have come out last night and said, I cured cancer.
6:11Uh, all of your grandmas and grandpas are now going to be resurrected because of,
6:16uh, massive technological advantages. And you're going to get to hang out with your family
6:20again. And they still would complain, right?
6:23Whatever the greatest thing. And I balanced the budget and, uh, whatever the greatest accomplishment
6:29that you think a president could render, there's about 35 % of the population that
6:35would hate it just because Trump has broken their brains.
6:37And I thought there were two things that really stood out, Buck.
6:41One was when Trump said they're insane.
6:43And the second one was when they're not willing to stand for things that are
6:49completely non -political in nature.
6:52And I think this is going to bounce back in Democrats, uh, disfavor in a
6:57fairly substantial way because being retro, uh, sort of retroactively opposed to whatever Trump is
7:04in favor of. It is, uh, working against them.
7:08And I thought Trump did a good job of making a case.
7:10If I were giving advice, I would have said, do it in one 15 instead
7:14of one 45. I think 30 minutes of that speech could have been cleaned up,
7:18but so much of it was just a spectacularly optimistic story about America and how
7:25our lives intersect with the 250 year old history of the country.
7:29And in that way, I thought it was very well done in the most optimistic,
7:33probable speech that Trump has maybe ever given in his presidency.
7:37You noted two of the most important policy, uh, which I think pretty universally people
7:43felt like the, uh, Democrats not standing for, we want to put citizens above foreigners.
7:51Basically like Americans matter more to the American government.
7:54Their, their, their future and their wellbeing matters more to the American government than other
7:58people, Democrats just fundamentally don't believe that actually Democrats view anyone from anywhere in the
8:04world, no matter what their, uh, their, their background, their language, their politics, their, their
8:11credo, whatever as well. Maybe that could be a voter, you know, I want to
8:16start giving them welfare and turn them into a voter.
8:18That's how they view that anyone from anywhere, anyone is as American as any of
8:22you. As long as that person is going to be on the government, uh, dole
8:26and vote Democrat. That is truly how they feel and how they, uh, think of
8:30this country, which I think is a huge vulnerability for them politically.
8:34It should be, or else we're just on a slow glide path into the side
8:37of the mountain and our sovereignty is done.
8:39Uh, but Clay, the two moments for me that were particularly just powerful, the USA
8:46hockey team thing, uh, that I'm not, I'm not a hockey guy and I admit
8:50that many, I got so many thoughts on this too, that we can dive into
8:54eventually, but that moment was pure cinematic gold.
8:58It, it was, it was, you know, Ronald Reagan high -fiving Hulk Hogan on the
9:04back of a triceratops with, with American flags fluttering in the backgrounds, you know, flanked
9:10by eagles. Like, I mean, it was, it was amazing.
9:14All right. It was an absolutely beautiful moment, uh, for, for the country.
9:19And it was just so cool.
9:21All those young guys there, you know, the big win.
9:23And it really is about America.
9:25And I think I, I, I would hope that even somebody that despises every aspect
9:30of Trump's policy, at least had their, had their moment, you know, their, they, they
9:37smiled and looked at those guys and said, they are, they're our boys and they
9:41did a great job and our gals.
9:43They weren't, uh, they weren't there last night, but you know, the gals team did
9:46a great job too. And I just think that that national pride is something that
9:50I want to see in everybody, irrespective of who they vote for.
9:53Unfortunately, Democrats, a lot of them, not all of them, it's not fair to say
9:56all of them, but a lot of them don't.
9:58And Clay, the other moment for me was when he told the story of the
10:02pilot, uh, chief warrant officer Slover going into Venezuela, getting his legs.
10:07I mean, I'm assuming it was probably getting hit by seven, six, two rounds.
10:11I mean, I don't know.
10:12They didn't talk about this, but getting hit by, uh, you know, getting hit in
10:16the legs and in the hip and continuing as a Chinook pilot to make sure
10:21that that, that bird came down and the mission was completed.
10:25And that guy, you could tell he's still recovering.
10:27There's still probably a lot of pain he's dealing with and, and immobility issues from,
10:31you know, you, you get, you get hit with those kinds of rounds, especially talking
10:34about hip stuff. That's very point is, man, that guy's just an American hero and
10:39American badass and be able to give him the medal of honor.
10:41I know there are other medal of honor winners too, and they had amazing stories,
10:43but this guy, it just happened.
10:46I just, that, that wasn't about Trump, right?
10:50This is the thing. No, totally.
10:51It's about the country. truly so how can they not love that how can how
10:57can you be an american and not say you know this is one of the
11:00best of ours right here this guy who put it on the line and got
11:04the mission done eric slover is his name and what first of all he looked
11:10uncomfortable being there because i guarantee you if they had given him a mic he
11:15would say well i was just one of insert number of guys doing my job
11:20that's how those guys are at the highest level the operators that's how they are
11:23uh but as he stood there and he was still as you said recovering he
11:28had a aid i think uh crutches basically to help him walk he looked like
11:34an american badass monster in a good way right just huge i don't know how
11:40many you know reps on 315 that guy can do but i would go for
11:44a high number i mean he looks like a guy who had committed his heart
11:49and soul to defending america america to such an extent that he was there to
11:55get the utmost of his body and give the utmost of his body on behalf
12:00of the country and that to your point they had 200 year old a world
12:05war ii veteran a guy who uh flew missions i think they said in world
12:10war ii korea and vietnam i mean both of whom were getting uh the awards
12:15i thought it was the most patriotic pro -american speech that trump may have ever
12:19given and here's what stood out to me buck and i think this ties in
12:22with the u .s men i've got so many thoughts on a deep level about
12:25this you can argue as we have said on this program about what the tax
12:29rate should be on corporations and you can argue about what policy should be in
12:34place when it comes to uh ice raids and all these other different things but
12:39really what i think president trump distilled with this address is there is one party
12:45that is proud of this country and proud of the united states and feels intense
12:50patriotic loyalty to america and that is republicans and then there is a party that
12:56is ashamed of america and everything that it represents and that is democrats and that
13:01is a big major issue writ large that doesn't have anything to do direct with
13:07policy and i thought trump's address was delivered right at that intersection of conflict over
13:15the existential and supportive and super important question of is america a good and and
13:22just country or not republicans say yes democrats say no and i think that goes
13:28to the very essence of our political battles in this day and age and i
13:32thought that address really focused on it also trump just taking a moment for him
13:39here because there was a lot of stuff that really was about the country and
13:42that was it was beautiful and and all of the victory laps that he started
13:45out with are just they're just factual too this isn't when biden says things like
13:49we were american jobs we brought back the economy it's like you mean you democrat
13:55maniacs allowed people to go back to work because they had already gotten a nasty
14:00cold that they weren't going to die from in the first place because they weren't
14:04you know at high risk like that's your great economic contribution to stop ruining everything
14:09and spending us into oblivion um the accomplishments that trump was laying out last night
14:15are just that they're accomplishments no matter how you slice it the reality is he's
14:19done incredible things but the other part of this clay is he's just a showman
14:22man i mean when he goes up with the democrats or you know oh they're
14:27they're they're shrieking and howling and they're all so upset and they're acting like really
14:32acting like the uh you know the unruly children in the school auditorium that the
14:36dean has to go and and give a talking to you know trump is just
14:40like yeah you're crazy you know he's shouting them down the guy just puts on
14:44a show it's there's nothing else like it we have seen nothing else like it
14:48and uh i i thought it was i thought it was phenomenal do i always
14:52think that a speech could be shorter sure but i i actually last night was
14:55the first time that i wasn't like this has gotten brutal that was that was
14:58kind of my meeting got got way too long um so overall i thought it
15:02was his best state of the union speech and i go into these things pretty
15:05uh with low expectations so we'll talk about some of the democrat stuff some of
15:10the big policy moments also i think we're discussing this setting aside money for american
15:15children in accounts understand like basically putting everybody in a place where they will benefit
15:23from the american economy and the financial system there's some big things about this that
15:28i think really matter and and we should discuss um because this is this is
15:33a way you want to deal with like the wealth gap and you want to
15:35deal with uh quality of life and all these things there's there's a lot to
15:39this uh by the way we should have taken george w bush's advice a long
15:44time ago and index social security to s p 500 index funds if we had
15:49the country would be on much sounder financial shape instead of you giving all your
15:53money and getting back three percent returns or whatever the heck it is 40 years
15:58later it's a social security the way it's set up is just it's a abc
16:02wednesdays the emmy winning comedy scrubs is all new this is a whole new chapter
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16:18get those nachos out of the creamy one Nachos!
16:22Feels like there's more applause for the nachos than my speech.
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16:39Here with us tonight is a group of winners who just made the entire nation
16:44proud. The men's gold medal Olympic hockey team.
16:49Come on in. USA! USA!
17:06USA! USA! USA! Clay, I think the chant of USA, USA was, in essence, what
17:20the speech was last night.
17:22Yes. That really, you know, if you're looking for an encapsulation, it's just a room
17:27full of people cheering American heroes, shouting USA, USA.
17:31I mean, let's really take a moment.
17:32I know that there were people on the Democrat side there who looked like they
17:36were sucking on lemons. You know who was particularly, well, I mean, it's tough to
17:43compare to Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, who truly, if they were in like a
17:48college auditorium, they would have been, you know, they would have been removed by security.
17:52They're completely, they're classless, they're grotesque, they're horrible, okay?
17:57But, Mark Kelly, the idea that this guy is a presidential contender, he's such a
18:03surly little fuddy -duddy. You know, I don't get it.
18:06Like, oh, we're all supposed to be so impressed by him.
18:08I'm not impressed by him at all.
18:09I don't care. He sits there with this scowl on his face, and you say,
18:14what is their, like, look around in America today.
18:17I know the Democrats, some of their favorite toys have been taken away.
18:20I know that, oh, DEI's taken a big hit, and we don't have to use
18:24the preferred pronouns, and we don't have to leave the borders wide open and pretend
18:28that somebody who came here illegally yesterday is just as American as people who have
18:33been here for, you know, hundreds of years with their families.
18:36You know, just the same.
18:37It's all the same. We don't have to do that anymore.
18:39But really look at the day -to -day in the country right now.
18:44Unemployment, inflation, overall economic growth, GDP per capita, wages.
18:52Now, I know prices are high.
18:54Yes, I'm not saying everything's perfect.
18:55Yes, there's still a housing issue.
18:57But you look at the borders being secure.
18:59You look at the murder rate nationally coming down to effectively an all -time low.
19:06And then you add to this, where's the, are we in some horrible war right
19:10now with our, you know, bravest American men and women coming back in body bags
19:15and the solemnity of having, no, we aren't.
19:17Thank God, we are not.
19:19Are we in the midst of some terrible war?
19:20We are not. Are we in the midst of some economic depression or great recession?
19:25No, we are not. God, are we, what is the, what is there to be
19:28so upset about, Clay? This is really the thing I think is so funny.
19:32They, they, they, they just, oh, it's so bad.
19:34I mean, Spamburger, who is a total Trojan horse.
19:38She is absolutely out of the Democrat playbook of like, oh, I'm sort of just
19:42a boring mom, just like all of you.
19:44And then the lunatic communists just, you know, with their purple hair and their earplugs
19:49and their nose rings in the background, like Marxism, you know, like that's what she's,
19:54she's going to unleash them on America.
19:56The second she's in power, which she's done to Virginia already.
19:59What are these people? I really like that.
20:01This is why when Trump called them crazy, they're crazy.
20:05They're actually nuts. Like, I don't have to sit here and get into some in
20:08-depth conversation about their view of Keynesian economics.
20:11They can't even spell Keynesian economics.
20:13Do you think Rashida Tlaib knows who Keynes was?
20:16Do you think she knows what country he's from or what?
20:18I mean, these people are imbeciles and all they do is just, just show what
20:23malcontents they are. They just spew rage and envy and yeah, all over the country.
20:29That's what I felt like last night.
20:31Um, I love what Trump has done on crime and I hope that he punched
20:37through on this. We should be talking all the time about the fact that murders
20:44are at 125 year low.
20:47And I went and did research this morning, Buck.
20:49You can go look it up.
20:51Washington DC in particular, where Trump spoke last night, 250th anniversary of the country.
20:57No one is talking about this.
20:59I feel sometimes like I'm screaming into a void, but I think it is so
21:02incredibly important. Murders are down 67 % in Washington DC since last year, Buck.
21:1127 murders between January and February occurred in 2025 last year, which was already beginning
21:19a dramatic decline from the past with Trump coming into office.
21:23There's only been nine murders in Washington DC in January and February of 2026 so
21:30far, 67%. Okay. We talked about this when it happened.
21:36We said, okay, maybe Trump's going to surge resources in Washington DC and it's just
21:42not going to work. That would stink because we would prefer that there was less
21:46violent crime. murders instead are down 67 percent what if we have just and i
21:55think it's becoming clear grown to accept a certain level of crime that is absolutely
22:01unnecessary to accept and by surging resources in crime -ridden communities we can actually make
22:10everybody infinitely safer wouldn't that be a great thing that's happening right now in washington
22:18dc it's happening in my home state buck memphis tennessee and it's happening in new
22:23orleans louisiana which i think is such an incredible story that it's impossible to attack
22:28trump for and it should be screamed louder i'm glad he addressed it last night
22:33but i think a lot of people still have no clue how much safer and
22:37by the way do you know whose lives are being saved overwhelmingly minority lives because
22:43murder rates are not evenly distributed per capita black and hispanic people are far more
22:49likely to kill each other than white and asian people are and trump is saving
22:54tons of lives i mean this is a real tangible thing it is and and
22:59it reminds me clay of there are a number of things where there was a
23:04binary like should we deport illegals or not for the future of this country is
23:11something that is i think it should be obvious to anybody but there's a deep
23:16and long running philosophical okay is it better you know if we deported uh x
23:24amount in the next five years what's it like in 10 years what these these
23:28are things where you can keep arguing about it is my point i think it's
23:31very clear what's best for the country but you keep arguing about it there are
23:34other things though where there's just there's a a final declaration of what is who
23:41was right and who was wrong i mean you're you love betting you like predictions
23:44you're into this stuff yeah um and and sometimes it's you get it wrong you
23:50get it right you know this is sometimes we can't tell sometimes the outcome is
23:54unclear and you just argue hey what what could have happened here what caused this
23:58that's fair but with democrats on a number of important issues with trump the experiment
24:05has been run and we have seen the result and they were wrong and they
24:12don't care they don't change their tune they don't change their mind they certainly don't
24:18say i'm sorry and this is what we're dealing with now clay there was an
24:24article in the new york times by not a right winger and it's something you
24:29may want to talk about i know you had a detransitioner on last week just
24:32saying ideology was pushing this trans care for kids stuff there was no there were
24:37no studies there was no benefit analysis really it was just gotta trans them gotta
24:42trans them as fast i gotta trans as many of them as we can as
24:44fast as we can put them clay testosterone is a controlled substance that is hard
24:50for adult males to get without you have to get a doctor's prescription in some
24:54places they want to know you know you know i have a ton of friends
24:56here in miami who are they call it you know pinning trt ton of friends
25:00here and uh if you go in and you're like a teenage girl they're going
25:05to give you testosterone as quickly as they can a lot of these places right
25:08so it's controlled substance for men but for my point on this great point that's
25:12the story that she told us which was a lot of people still reacting to
25:15it at 17 years old they just start pumping this you know little girl young
25:20girl completely full of testosterone it's in clay and what they have to understand is
25:25there's no if you're a man and they're doing that for you there's a completely
25:31clear medical basis which is what is the optimum range for a man to be
25:36in and they have to check they'll check your hematocrit they'll check your blood range
25:40they'll check you know again as part of my fitness journey i've been doing i've
25:43done peptides and i'll talk about this another time the only reason i don't talk
25:46about it more by the way is just because i don't want to be accused
25:49of like giving medical advice so that's why i'm a little but i'm a huge
25:52believer in get to a get to a performance doc talk to that performance doc
25:56about md medical doctor about peptides and maybe one day we can have one on
26:01the show clay i mean i'll actually probably talk to marty mccary about this uh
26:04tomorrow um because i think this is critical for health and a lot of things
26:07my point is what is the proper testosterone level for a girl who thinks she's
26:12a boy there is no proper like this doesn't exist this is like uh you
26:19know you're you're crossing you know a hyena with a giraffe like this is not
26:23supposed to happen you're not supposed to do this and they're finally now admitting that
26:29the science was not settled the science was ideological and that's just one incredibly important
26:35issue but clay on the issue of crime which you just brought up we were
26:39having this debate over at morning joe they were coming off the croquet course mika
26:45and joe with the sweaters around their shoulders to laugh at all the peasants about
26:50how they thought that they'd be safer if you know donald trump actually put federal
26:55resources to work to make people safer he was right the numbers show it they
27:01were wrong why aren't there articles in the new york times why aren't there democrats
27:05who are saying you know i don't like trump on this i disagree with how
27:09he does that i wish he didn't make such funny jokes about ilhan omar or
27:14whatever but he was right on crime.
27:17Clay, you know what happens if you do that?
27:19They Eric Adams you. You get pushed out of the good graces of the party
27:25and maybe you get a federal prosecution thrown at you if they're in power just
27:28to show you who the real boss is.
27:30These people, I keep coming back to it, these Democrats are nuts.
27:35They're nuts. They are unmoored from reality.
27:38I just look at it and say murders going down.
27:43Anything we could do to make that happen and that you know this, there are
27:48so many downstream impacts from murders declining.
27:53Obviously, public safety is number one because everybody feels safer in their communities, but the
28:02impact psychologically of people who lose loved ones to violent crime.
28:09You never recover from it.
28:11Right now, there are thousands of people who will never experience that feeling because Trump
28:19and the people who work with him, the law enforcement, the National Guard, everybody out
28:24there that serves resources, ICE, yes, ICE, all of those people have made it such
28:30that thousands of people are walking the streets today who would have been dead.
28:35I don't know how you cannot make that a signature achievement.
28:40Buck, if you and I had come on, if we had said, hey, what's your
28:43prediction for 2024, 2025, what is year one of Trump going to make happen?
28:50If you or I had said in January of 2025, I think we're going to
28:54hit 125 year low in murders.
28:57Somebody would have clipped that and they would have said, this is the most crazy
29:02pro -Trump outlandish prediction. They would have laughed at us.
29:05They would have laughed. They wouldn't even, I think, analyze it.
29:07They would have mocked us.
29:08Yes, absolutely. It happened. It happened.
29:11You and I wouldn't have even thought to predict it because it's such an unexpected
29:15outcome and it's like we're not even going to check the scoreboard.
29:20We're not even going to analyze basic data.
29:22I would put it on the other side, too, where remember Joe Biden astutely, unfortunately,
29:28because he knew because he's been in the game a long time or at least
29:31his senior advisors knew he never went full BLM because he would defund the police.
29:36He knew defund the police.
29:37Defund the police is a moron is a moron slogan.
29:40And you're going to politically it's toxic.
29:41You can't women defund the police.
29:43He knew that. And so he stayed away from it.
29:46If Joe Biden come into office and said, you know what?
29:49I know this is going to upset some communities, but the numbers are going to
29:51speak for themselves. And actually, particularly minority communities will benefit from the lives saved more
29:56than anybody else. We're going to go all in on crime.
29:58And Joe Biden delivered 120 year low in the murder rate.
30:02We would be on here and I'd be saying you'd be saying, wow, I didn't
30:06think he had it in him, but pretty remarkable.
30:09Maybe he's getting more credit for it than he deserves, but it's a good thing.
30:13And if we had opposed it, I would have.
30:15Well, I mean, I don't know how that would have happened.
30:17Right. But I'm just saying if we had doubted it, I would have been like
30:19he proved us wrong. It's a good thing.
30:21Some people in the audience would be mad at us because they're mad whenever I
30:24say anything nice about anything a Democrat does.
30:26And that's fine. But that's where we'd be.
30:28Democrats don't do that. They jeer Trump saving lives because it's Trump.
30:33That's where they are. It's pretty crazy.
30:37I mean, again, I keep coming back to that word.
30:38They're crazy, guys. This is what we're up against.
30:40Why we can't let these people back near the levers of power.
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30:55We are joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn of the great state of Tennessee, which has
31:02given us both a fantastic senator and a fantastic Clay Travis.
31:06So we have so much to be thankful for, Tennessee.
31:08Uh, and thank you for being here, Senator.
31:12Well, I'm always so delighted to join you all.
31:15Thanks for having me back.
31:17It really was an incredible state of the union.
31:20And that comes, uh, Senator Blackburn from somebody who thinks even his own team state
31:25of the unions are usually kind of boring and go too long.
31:27I thought last night was remarkable.
31:29I just wanted to get your top line thoughts on it.
31:33And how was it? It was remarkable.
31:37And the two hours absolutely flew by because the president just kept rolling right on
31:44through all the objections that the left side of the aisle was throwing their way.
31:50I was so pleased. He laid out where we were a year and a half
31:53ago with 9 % inflation with chaos in the world.
31:57And then he drew it to today where we're at 2 .4 % inflation, the
32:03price of gas coming down, the price of groceries beginning to normalize, wages going up
32:09and job opportunities increasing. And our standing in the world is restored.
32:16Our allies are working with us.
32:18Our adversaries and enemies fear us.
32:21They know that president Trump means the business and that he has the backing of
32:27Republicans in the house and the Senate.
32:31Were you stunned even as someone who has been involved in politics for a long
32:36time, that when they had the mom of a murdered, innocent woman and they had
32:42her stand and when They had Charlie Kirk's wife, Erica, stand.
32:47And when even on a much less serious front, they brought in the U .S.
32:52men's Olympic team that every Democrat didn't stand up and clap.
32:57I wish there had been even more of a camera on the larger viewing area
33:03so you could see it.
33:05But I got to admit, I was kind of staggered.
33:07I don't know who gave Democrats that advice, but including, hey, do you think your
33:12job is to take care of citizens or illegal immigrants?
33:15That's right. I couldn't believe the way they behaved.
33:19Their behavior was appalling. And the fact that they would stay sitting in their seats
33:24and not stand to honor these who have lost loved ones, to honor those that
33:32have served our country, to honor the oath that they took to protect and defend
33:40and honor the people who voted for them and elected them to make certain that
33:48they were there to serve the people.
33:50It was absolutely astounding. But you know what?
33:54This is where the line of distinction is.
33:59What we have seen is the current Democrat Party, which is led by the far
34:06left wing of the Democrat Party, the Democrat Socialists, they would rather take care of
34:14illegal immigrants than they would take care of the people that voted for them.
34:20They would rather provide for illegal immigrants than provide for the citizens of their states
34:30and the citizens of this nation.
34:32It is astounding. Senator Blackburn, you also wanted to talk to us today about this
34:41case currently with the courts involving social media and there's the Kids Online Safety Act.
34:49There's a whole range of issues coming together here.
34:52Can you just tell us first what is going on right now?
34:56We've got Mark Zuckerberg recently had to show up in Los Angeles County Superior Court.
35:02He testified. He's the CEO of Meta.
35:05There's this whole court case going on.
35:08It's with the jury right now.
35:09What are the items at issue and what do you want to see from this
35:13case? Yes, indeed. This case, which I will say this, Mark Zuckerberg being on the
35:21stand in this case, I don't know what the outcome, the legal ramifications of the
35:28case are going to end up being.
35:29No one can tell us exactly because there's a jury involved.
35:34What I do know is this, that Mark Zuckerberg lost in the court of public
35:40opinion because he continued to say that social media had nothing to do with the
35:47accelerated levels of anxiety and depression, eating disorders, teen suicide, and this bucket of mental
35:57health issues. When the research that Meta has and whistleblowers have given that research to
36:05us, and of course, it was presented in court, and you know that they know
36:11what they are doing to kids.
36:12You know that they are designing programming to capture younger kids.
36:18We all know that the valuation of Meta and Google and all of these big
36:24tech companies, it is based on the number of eyeballs they draw to the page
36:29and the amount of time they can keep those eyeballs focused on their platform.
36:37So I think he lost, in the court of public opinion, it has brought forward
36:44the need to pass the Kids Online Safety Act that came out of the Senate,
36:4991 to 3. We have 75 Senate co -sponsors on it.
36:55It is significant. It would put in place a duty of care, a product by
37:02design safety standard for the virtual space.
37:05That is something, at this point, we do not have.
37:09Your grandkids, my sons, go to a similar school in the Nashville area that has
37:15a good technology policy, which is, and I know they probably may be cheating right
37:22now, but they're not supposed to have their phones.
37:24They're not supposed to be able to text message during school, and if they're caught
37:27with cell phones during school hours, there are consequences.
37:31Shouldn't this be the standard for every school, basically, in America?
37:35You're a grandma. Before that, you were a mom.
37:38As a dad, I think it's a no -brainer, and I think it's super bipartisan.
37:42Are you in favor of this, more and more schools not allowing kids to be
37:47on phones during the day?
37:49Oh, yes, indeed. Bell to bell, no cell.
37:53That is a very good policy for kids.
37:57And, you know, there is a growing body of research that shows that children who
38:03do not have a cell phone on their desk, in their backpack, within reach, their
38:10test scores. go up. Their achievement goes up.
38:14Their participation in class increases.
38:17And the more you see this research, the more you know that it does matter.
38:23And you realize what a massive distraction it is to have that cell phone at
38:29the ready. I think one of the things that is so interesting about this also
38:33is talking to parents, teachers, and principals.
38:37Most of the behavioral issues that take place on school campuses find their nexus at
38:47the cell phone. And the bullying is 24 -7.
38:51It never stops. So putting those phones away for that period of the academic day
38:58forces kids to focus on what they are studying.
39:03It means that kids that go to study hall are actually doing research work.
39:09They're writing papers. They're pulling books out of the library shelves.
39:14And hearing from librarians about the change in behavior during those study halls is something
39:21that has not been lost on me.
39:24Speaking to Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, when you talk about, I just want to
39:29bring us back to this for a second, the social media issues for kids and
39:33online duty of care. Are the social media companies, are they just saying that that's
39:38impossible? It's too expensive. It's not necessary.
39:42I mean, what's the counterargument?
39:44Because usually when it comes to any political issue about children, everyone at least pretends
39:50that they care about the kids, right?
39:51I mean, even the big companies pretend.
39:53So what are they saying in response to this?
39:56Why would they, you know, will they go along with it?
40:01I mean, why does it even require an act by Congress?
40:05They have proven they cannot police themselves.
40:08They have also proven that when kids are on those phones, kids are the product.
40:12And, you know, one of the interesting things is that every industrial sector in this
40:18country has product safety standards, whether it's an automobile, a toaster, a mattress, a curling
40:27iron, everything has a safety standard, everything except the virtual space.
40:34And the reason for that, big tech has spent millions of dollars lobbying.
40:41Last year, fourth quarter of the year, in order to take down the Kids Online
40:47Safety Act, META hired one lobbyist for every six members of Congress and spent $20
40:55million. I'm somebody that knows what it feels like to have big tech come barreling
41:03after them with lots of lobbyist lawyers and millions of dollars because they do not
41:11want to change their business model.
41:14They would have to change that business model.
41:16If you put in place a safety by design standard, if you de -link the
41:24algorithm so that the algorithm can be controlled by the parents and the kids and
41:32not controlled by the platform, they don't want that.
41:39Senator Blackburn, last night I was at a in the black is what it's called
41:45event about trying to balance a budget.
41:48A bunch of people you know were there.
41:50It was awesome. I know you're running for governor.
41:53But the federal government's inability to remotely make decisions that have to do, let's use
42:03as an example right now, basic election integrity.
42:06You're going to be on the ballot in November.
42:08Tennessee, thankfully, has really great election integrity.
42:11But the fact that white, black, Asian, Hispanic people overwhelmingly believe that you should have
42:16to show a photo ID in order to vote to prove you're who you are.
42:22What's going to happen with that in the Senate?
42:24I think there might be a filibuster.
42:26How's that process going to play out?
42:27I still can't believe this is unpassable, basically, based on the Democrat response.
42:34You know, it's an 80 percent issue with the American people across all different demographic
42:41groups. And that's the thing that is so interesting, the fact that it has such
42:46broad bipartisan support. I mean, Zoran Mandami wants you to show two forms of ID
42:52in order to go shovel snow in New York, but he doesn't want you to
42:57show an ID to vote.
43:00What they're trying to do is make it easy to cheat and hard to vote.
43:05We want to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat.
43:09And we have got to have photo ID in the Senate.
43:14We are going to push the Save America Act forward.
43:17I look forward to having a vote on the floor.
43:21It should be common sense, standard practice, that you have to be a citizen of
43:28the United States in order to vote in our elections, and you have to show
43:33an ID and prove who you are.
43:37When it comes to the issue of the balance...
43:39budget and I have supported a balanced budget amendment for the United States.
43:47We have that in Tennessee.
43:49We have to balance our budget.
43:51We can't borrow money or print money.
43:53We have to be very careful about that and be a good fiscal steward.
43:59It means that some years the leaner years you cannot do some projects you want
44:04to do and then it means when you do have years where you have a
44:08surplus, you have to be wise about where you place those dollars.
44:12The federal government should do likewise and they would be well served to do likewise.
44:21Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us.
44:24You got it. Take care.
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