Hour 1 - Iranian Game of Chicken
4/13/202637 mincomplete
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0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome, everybody, to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
0:10show. Today's one of those days, my friends, where right at the jump, we've got
0:15probably five hours of show that we wish we could talk to you about in
0:18only three hours of time.
0:19So a ton of stuff.
0:21Let's talk for a moment here.
0:23Let's lay out the bountiful news feast.
0:28Let's look at the menu and let you know where we're going, what we're talking
0:32about today, what the big things are.
0:35I'm going to start with this, actually.
0:37We'll get into this later.
0:38I'm going to go in a little bit of reverse order.
0:41Swalwell is done as governor to be of California, which is a remarkable turnabout.
0:48It was, as I joked on Twitter, Clay, it looks like Swalwell was two weeks
0:53away from getting a nuclear weapon.
0:54Listen, the concerted, all -out Democrat media takedown of this guy.
1:01Now, to be clear, this stuff is really bad.
1:03Like, they were hiding what everybody kind of knew, and they've known about this for
1:08a long time. But just the coordination of the total eradication of this guy's political
1:14future about things that they had been keeping.
1:17Remember, they had known for months, in some cases, years, these allegations were out there.
1:22Swalwell is a scumbag. I think that is very obvious.
1:25Is he a criminal? That is what is alleged at this point only.
1:30But he is done. And our friend Steve Hilton, who was running against him, was
1:34his chief competitor on the Republican side.
1:37He will join us in the third hour and just talk about this because, wow.
1:41I mean, first off, the allegations, really, really bad stuff about, I mean, sexual, not
1:47just sexual harassment, real sexual assault allegations.
1:50It was, in a lot of cases, people on the record, total mess.
1:54Okay. Now, that's about the domestic politics front.
1:57I actually want to start us off, though, Clay, and we can get to some
2:01of the latest from Trump.
2:03Last night at Andrew's joint base, but the situation with the Iran and the Iran
2:11war, the straight -up war moves.
2:13So, here's what happened. As some of us expected and predicted, the negotiations, which went
2:20on for 21 hours in Pakistan, went exactly nowhere.
2:24Iran is like, absolutely not.
2:26Your red lines and our red lines are in conflict.
2:30As in, there are things that Iran is just flatly refusing to do that we
2:34will not bend on either.
2:36No deal. And so, Clay, this brings us to this current moment where Trump has
2:43said, okay, so you've already basically violated the ceasefire because you're at least threatening.
2:49Now, that's a little bit.
2:50They haven't blown up any ships or anything.
2:52They haven't crossed that red line.
2:53But Iran is claiming the right to board ships, to take money, or to effectively
3:00hold the ship almost hostage, right, to take a $2 million per ship bounty.
3:05And they've mined the Strait of Hormuz, too.
3:08Trump has said, all right, you know what we're going to do?
3:10We now control the Strait of Hormuz.
3:13And we're going to let some ships go, but we're not going to let Iranian
3:16ships go. So, Clay, we have now seen Trump say, we're going to blockade you,
3:21Iran. We were being nice before, but now you're going to have a full -on
3:25oil blockade. You, my friend, Mr.
3:29Clay, are the optimistic, optimistic voice on the achievement of these goals with Iran.
3:37How are you feeling about this right now?
3:40Well, this is kind of what I expected to happen on the blockade, arguing that
3:47Trump was frustrated with the way the media had covered this by saying that Iran
3:52controlled the Strait of Hormuz, which you, I think, summed it up well by saying
3:58basically they're trying to take the Strait of Hormuz hostage and effectively they are threatening
4:04terrorism, which is not a sign of control.
4:07It's just a sign that you are crazy and you're willing to extract a toll
4:12from people who are trying to be law -abiding and go about the business of
4:16oil and commerce otherwise. So, it doesn't surprise me at all that President Trump says,
4:22okay, if you're going to be picking and choosing who you're going to allow in
4:28and out of the Strait of Hormuz, we are going to put a blockade, we're
4:31going to control ingress and egress, and we're not going to allow Iranian oil to
4:36reach global markets. Now, I pulled this because I thought it was significant because this
4:43is where now we go to the economic impact here.
4:48Roughly, roughly, there is, and I think you said this on the program back in
4:53the day, that about 20 % of overall exports, that oil and gas, about 20
5:02% of the overall Iranian economy.
5:05But by far, other than your beloved pistachios, which, by the way, have surged in
5:10cost as Iran is a top pistachio exporting economy.
5:21If you thought pistachio creme brulee was fancy before, it is now the count.
5:24aviar of sweet desserts no doubt and so the reality is the iranian economy basically
5:33does not work if they're not getting a lot of oil and gas brought into
5:37their uh into their country and so trump has said okay instead of iran being
5:43able to pick and choose who gets through we're going to set up a blockade
5:46and we're going to control this now the real issue i think is not going
5:51to be the strait of hormuz i think that what will happen there is iran
5:56will agree to open back up the strait of hormuz eventually and in the process
6:01uh we will unfreeze many of their assets that are frozen right now in foreign
6:06banks that allow them to do business and frankly that allow the corrupt ruling regime
6:12of iran to remain wealthy here is i think the crux of all this buck
6:17and here's my prediction it's the uranium you're right i think that iran will not
6:22just give up nuclear ambition or hand over the uranium but based on what we
6:28know happened when we rescued the airman who was uh hiding in a crevice in
6:34an iranian mountain and we basically built an airfield we had to abandon some of
6:39the planes but we established we will leave no man behind uh as a part
6:44of rescuing him i think it was also kind of an interesting test because what
6:48we established is we can build an airfield we can take our people in and
6:52out of iran and they really can't do anything about it we can set up
6:56a perimeter that surrounds all of those assets on the ground and due to our
7:01air superiority iran can't really get to them so we talked about this before it
7:07feels to me buck if the uranium is sizable if it's sizable we don't know
7:12because it's buried how much how long would it take to reach is it reachable
7:16to me the cinematic into this feels like trump is going to want to seize
7:22their uranium pull it out of the country have a grand uh huge special operation
7:29iran to me may not uh necessarily oppose that because it doesn't make them look
7:37weak in the country to me it's weaker if they hand it over voluntarily if
7:41we take it they can lie to their people just say it didn't happen that
7:46feels like some form of resolution that would be of a scope that could allow
7:51us to say okay this is over i think with the current government there which
7:55is the same as the old government it's just new people uh the if they
8:00agree to just give over the uranium they think they would end up with bullets
8:03in the back of their head correct and taking a dirt nap forever i think
8:06that's and by the way i think that's correct so that's not happening it's a
8:10form of world they cannot agree to in their own leadership they absolutely cannot agree
8:17to it they would be signing their own death warrants i think because remember they
8:22can agree to it and then there's people around them who are probably thinking they
8:27should be in charge anyway and it just gets really easy to be the one
8:32who is eliminated because then you would also have created all of this carnage and
8:36chaos to protect an asset that you then give over no it has to be
8:40taken it has to then so you're right about that it has to be taken
8:43now here's where this gets to me interesting all right iran is playing a game
8:49here too and their game is who can last longer politically versus economically as in
8:57economically yes america is the world's energy superpower we don't get that much oil from
9:01iran we're going to be fine oil prices are going to rise and they might
9:05rise pretty considerably and they've already been rising no one can really predict how high
9:10that they'll go but they're going to rise okay but what are the politics of
9:14this look like here at home can iran hold out to the point where republicans
9:19are begging the administration for mercy essentially saying we are going to learn uh lose
9:2630 seats in the house we are going to get absolutely crushed in this midterm
9:31election unless you stop this you can come back to it later right this is
9:35the thing republics can say hold on no one's saying mr commander -in -chief you
9:39can't finish the job but you got to give us some kind of an agreement
9:44here until the midterm so that we're not focused in on this and of course
9:49iran's whole game here is no no maximum maximum pain maximum disunity at home but
9:56i i gotta say i was i was knew that the i mean the pakistan
10:00thing clay yeah i wouldn't if they had asked me to go along just to
10:03observe i mean it might have been interesting to go but they said buck do
10:06you want to be involved in this negotiation i would say no because it's going
10:09nowhere it's a total waste of time and it was total waste of time but
10:13trump now saying okay we're doing a full -on iranian blockade that's interesting that's now
10:21ratcheting this up and that what's iran's move either sit there and think they can
10:25wait it out or clay if the pain gets high enough in iran maybe they
10:29blow up a tanker those are their options their options are continue this game of
10:33chicken or go for the well not the nuclear option thankfully but their absolute their
10:40absolute final option is blow up a tanker in the strait of hormones and see
10:45what happens i don't i don't know if they'll do it they could do it
10:48so this also comes back to you can we extract the uranium but buck this
10:55comes back to my oil and gas that's that's a ground assault with a lot
11:00of people just to be clear that's not like you know that's not a small
11:04thing that's a big thing i'm telling you this is going to appeal to trump's
11:08cinematic nature i i just if it's doable i'm not sure it's doable because it
11:12may be so buried that we can't even get access to the uranium i think
11:17it's doable i think we would have to set up a forward operating base on
11:19the fly yes much like what we did to rescue the airmen which is kind
11:25of a little bit of a test of whether that would have to set up
11:28we would have to set up a cordon a security cordon with an air corridor
11:33where we had but now you're talking about setting up a forward operating base on
11:38the ground in a sovereign nation that still has about a half a million men
11:41under arms in their military i mean this is like really intense operational stuff if
11:48you ask our delta guys can they pull this off they'll be like yeah of
11:50course just tell us mr president like they'll do it so it's possible but i
11:56did that would be the most i don't know if there is a more because
11:59the iranians know where it is so they know where they have to set up
12:02their reinforcements and set up their uh their protection you know i don't know man
12:07i wonder what those pentagon reports look like about what kind of assets the iranians
12:12can bring to bear to try to defend them here is the other part of
12:15this buck that i think is significant um this is what we were talking about
12:19with oil and gas in america being a next net exporting country now oil and
12:25gas numbers haven't moved that much and so even with the blockade now set up
12:30the uh expense here has been priced in and a lot of the benefit it
12:36inures to american energy companies so it's very different and again the the economic reality
12:43iran can't function if we don't allow them to sell their oil and gas for
12:48a few weeks here i don't even think prices at this point would move very
12:53much i think they're basically stable at this point in time and as a result
12:58um i think trump has a lot more economic power than a lot of people
13:02have recognized and that's why the blockade move did not surprise me and to your
13:08point now's the question on iran i think if they seize the uranium it's actually
13:13helpful and it sounds crazy to iran because it allows them to avoid the bullets
13:19in the back of the head scenario where if they truly give up their uranium
13:24they're in a situation where the people in positions of power there can't stay in
13:28power we'll take some of your calls um we may have some special ops guys
13:32out there uh how feasible is the extraction of the uranium buck the other thing
13:38trump would love about this is it embarrasses george w bush on iraq because there
13:44were no wmds if he shows up with uranium canisters and says boom we went
13:49and took this out it is a different level of success and it demonstrates just
13:54how different uh that situation in iran was with iraq i just it feels like
14:00this is what's going to appeal the most to trump is it risky yes but
14:04it feels like a way to end this sometime in the next couple of weeks
14:07we'll see take your calls on this one very interesting situation playing out there and
14:15and we haven't even gotten into the domestic political front as much as we will
14:19with swole and all that so you guys we could have a republican governor of
14:23california this could happen so we'll talk about that with steve hilton later he's obviously
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15:29good clay and buck owning the airwaves all right we got a bunch to get
15:33into here uh we'll continue to talk about the iran situation the blockade um as
15:39the market observer market not moving very much at all um as uh again i
15:45think there's general optimism that there's going to be some form of resolution sooner rather
15:50than later one thing buck i actually was doing my research on this you and
15:54i have been talking about this off air why was there so much of a
15:58difference in oil prices depending on which market you were looking at i figured out
16:03the answer on this usually the oil markets are pretty consistent that is the prices
16:08between the spot and the futures this is me going into energy world uh research
16:14what has happened is we've got the largest divergence between spot that's current like if
16:20you needed to buy a barrel of oil right now and futures so if you
16:25usually they're relatively similar in cost right now because of the current blockade but also
16:31the other uncertainty the lack of willingness to come through the current spot market has
16:38which is what again if you needed to buy a barrel of oil right now
16:42has diverged significantly from the futures market and that is why you're sometimes seeing oh
16:47oil and gas 120 a barrel versus 95 a barrel um and uh and we'll
16:54get into that but that's a little bit of info for you if you're looking
16:57at both those okay let's set the table here buck eric swalwell has withdrawn from
17:02the race for governor we're going to talk with steve hilton the leading republican candidate
17:07endorsed by president trump the top of the third hour on the program he's been
17:11a friend of the program for a long time but it feels to me like
17:16democrats just ordered the code red on him because there were so many stories out
17:22there about eric swalwell inappropriate relationships and everything else and he was the leading candidate
17:28and i think they got afraid it was going to come out in the general
17:31so there's that clay but there's also because of the jungle primary we have to
17:36get into the specifics of this swalwell and the other candidates were splitting up the
17:42vote in a way where steve hilton could win and so it wasn't just a
17:47code red of oh we can't have this guy because he's too vulnerable in a
17:51general it was we have to stop this guy no matter what otherwise a republican
17:55might become the governor of california that's really where this was which is which is
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19:00and bucks so let's is trump talking right now guys is that really happening he
19:04he is soon okay because we'll go live at any moment um presumably it's about
19:09iran although we didn't see melania's epstein comments coming either so who knows uh to
19:15be fair yeah i i was uh i was surprised at those comments and apparently
19:20trump was too we were sitting here usually as soon as something happens clay and
19:25i it's it's like the wheel is going with the like this is why this
19:28happened and this is why this makes sense or doesn't and everything but the melania
19:32thing we're both like what what is this nobody's talking about melania's gonna do a
19:37white house press conference on it even trump said i'm not really expecting it and
19:41that's not the advice you know necessarily that i would have given and i think
19:45there's a lot of married men out there that uh that understand that sometimes uh
19:50even even the president of united this is why it's so funny like trump's a
19:53dictator his wife just had a press conference and he was like i didn't really
19:56want it to happen but he's a married guy and you know you lose uh
20:01he doesn't have control of his uh his own marriage necessarily a lot of you
20:05are going to nod your heads in this and hopefully your wife isn't sitting right
20:08next to you when you do but there is something about being a guy being
20:11a guy being married uh and you are making choices part of being a man
20:17married man is you are making choices for peace over being right for peace over
20:25what was necessarily the best option or the wisest move and i think that applies
20:30to trump too sometimes sometimes the wife wants to do something and you just have
20:35to go you know what fine i love that he gave that answer they were
20:40like well did you he's like i didn't really know i mean i'm paraphrasing trump
20:43on this he's like i didn't really know she was going to do an epstein
20:45press conference probably wasn't the advice that i would have given right but this is
20:49but that's him choosing peace yeah over the wise move because that she decided yeah
20:55she decided she was going to have a press conference and he probably said are
20:59you really sure that's the best idea i don't know and she was like no
21:03i'm doing it i mean you and i thought well there must be another story
21:06coming out so far there hasn't been anything else that she was getting in front
21:09of i've learned that ninja level husband is when your wife insists that you take
21:15a different route than the one that you're used to taking or that you want
21:18to take in the car and it becomes clear that this is now longer that
21:23you say i'm glad we're taking this because it just means i get to spend
21:27more time with you that that is the ninth degree black belt level of of
21:32husbandness it is definitely not i told you this was the wrong route that is
21:38no no that is no no and that's why you just put it on ways
21:41you just get ways and you just follow it and sometimes it leads you astray
21:46but you just point away you just point the way you just point away And
21:47you say, Ali just texted us, the most powerful piece in chess is the queen,
21:53which is a very good line.
21:55That's a very good line.
21:56I never thought about that before.
21:58Do you play chess at all?
21:59I actually really enjoy chess.
22:00I wish I played it more.
22:01I used to play, my dad and I used to play my sons.
22:04I got them involved in playing chess because I think it's good strategically to kind
22:09of think through it. And they played a lot as young kids.
22:12Yeah, it should make a comeback.
22:13It's a fun game. A lot of people.
22:14I mean, I think it's more popular than it ever has been before.
22:17Online, people play chess at incredible rates.
22:20And it's just a good way to challenge your brain.
22:23So actually, we'll get to more on Swallow Air in a moment.
22:27But this is actually my pro AI take.
22:31Chess, remember back in the day when it was, hey, when is the computer going
22:35to be better than a human at chess?
22:36And it happened, I don't know, 25 years ago or something that I think IBM
22:40created deep blue and it could beat everybody.
22:43And then people just stopped caring because computers are infinitely better than humans at chess.
22:48But chess has never been more popular because people want to see humans compete and
22:54pursue excellence. We know that at some point, artificial intelligence is going to exceed our
23:00processing capacity. But human excellence and human creativity and competition, I think, is going to
23:08continue to thrive. And chess, to me, is an interesting metaphor there.
23:13Wait, wait, wait, wait, can we do a Swallow Air?
23:16I want to do some of the Trump.
23:17I think we're going to get to Trump here in a second.
23:18So can we put a pin in the Swallow Air in a second?
23:20Yeah, let's put a pin in the Swallow Air on top of the next hour.
23:23Because I want you to just lay the whole thing out.
23:25I want your whole Swallow Air take.
23:27It was wild starting on Friday, just looking at all the stuff coming in, all
23:30these stories, all these allegations, and the stuff that this guy was doing.
23:34And then all these people online, some of whom I'm familiar with their work, people
23:39in the media, journalism space, whatever, who are like, oh, yeah, everybody knew this.
23:43Everybody knew this? The Democrats were running a guy who was sending photos of his
23:49privates to random women online as a member of Congress and a married guy with
23:54three kids? By the way, I always think this is true, too.
23:56Single guy versus married guy with kids, different sets of rules.
23:59I'm talking about legal stuff now, but different sets of rules.
24:02You know, you're sliding in the DMs as a single member of Congress.
24:06Okay, but you can't slide in with your private parts.
24:09You can slide in and say, would you like to have a beverage with me?
24:11But you can't slide in with, hey, look at this.
24:14Not good. Yeah, I mean, that whole story was pretty crazy, and we'll get into
24:19it a lot next hour because I think it tells us much.
24:21What I would say is, imagine doing all of that and deciding that you were
24:27going to spend huge amounts of your political time focusing on Epstein and also arguing
24:34that Trump was unacceptable when you, as a married member of Congress, are basically engaged
24:42in all sorts of wacky behavior.
24:44I have two thoughts for you on this.
24:46One is, in psychology, Clay, they call this projection, which is clearly something that every
24:52accusation is a confession, is a phrase that is out there for sure.
24:58You could say, Swalwell doth protest too much about sketchy sexual behavior when it came
25:04to Trump. The other thing that I would point out is, he's out of the
25:09governor's race now. He has suspended his campaign.
25:11He's out of the governor's race.
25:13But why is he still in Congress, everybody?
25:15Great question. So we're going to have to get to that.
25:17Do we have Trump now?
25:18I was trying to... Trump is speaking, I think, right now.
25:20Let's go. And I can't tell exactly who he's with.
25:23He's with a food delivery worker at the White House.
25:26It's supposed to be me as a doctor making people better.
25:30And I do make people better.
25:31I make people a lot better.
25:33As an example, the 11 ,000...
25:36I understand your husband's going through treatment.
25:39Yes, sir. Yes, sir. He's going to do some very serious cancer treatment.
25:43So this goes a long way.
25:45Yes, sir. It sure does.
25:47Mr. President, are there a round of talks planned with Iran?
25:51And if so, will you send Vice President James Mansfield?
25:54Well, he's done a good job.
25:56It's Steve and Jared. They've all done a very good job.
25:59And I can tell you that we've been called by the other side.
26:04They'd like to make a deal very badly.
26:05Very badly. What was the sticking point over?
26:08You said it was over nuclear.
26:10It was over nuclear. Very similar.
26:12Yeah, very good. I guess you're listening.
26:13It's over the fact that they will never have a nuclear weapon.
26:18Iran, you mark it down.
26:20Iran will not have a nuclear weapon.
26:23And we agreed to a lot of things, but they didn't agree to that.
26:27And I think they will agree to it.
26:28I'm almost sure of it.
26:30In fact, I am sure of it.
26:31If they don't agree, there's no deal.
26:32There'll never be a deal.
26:33Iran will not have a nuclear weapon.
26:35And we're going to get the dust back.
26:38We'll get it back either.
26:39We'll get it back from them or we'll take it.
26:41Mr. President, as far as the naval blockade is concerned, what's the end game?
26:45Is it to force Iran back to the negotiating table?
26:48Is it to open up the straits so the gas prices ultimately come down?
26:51Maybe everything. I mean, both of those things, certainly, and more.
26:55We can't let a country blackmail or extort the world because that's what they're doing.
27:03They're really blackmailing the world.
27:04We're not going to let that happen.
27:06And, you know, the amazing thing is we don't, can you believe this?
27:10We don't use the strait.
27:11We don't need the strait.
27:12We have our own oil and gas, much more than we need.
27:15We have more oil and gas than Saudi Arabia.
27:18Think of this. We produce more.
27:20Saudi Arabia and add Russia to it.
27:24Substantially more. And by next year, we'll have double that amount.
27:27So we don't need it, but the world needs it.
27:30And many ships are heading to our country right now, as we speak, to load
27:35up with the best. Really, I guess you could say, somebody said, the best and
27:40sweetest. I don't know exactly what sweet is, but when it relates to oil, it's
27:44a good thing. But they're coming to our country right now.
27:48There are many boats coming to our country.
27:49Now, it could very well be this is going to be settled before that.
27:53We've been called this morning by the right people, the appropriate people, and they want
27:59to work a deal. They would like to work a deal.
28:01Is it your anticipation, Mr.
28:02President, that other countries will assist in this effort to blockade Iran and those?
28:08Yeah, other countries are going to also.
28:10Which countries, sir? We don't need other countries, frankly, but they've offered the services.
28:15We'll let it be known probably tomorrow.
28:17Has the locking started, sir?
28:19Yeah, it started at 10 o 'clock.
28:21Bishop Robert Barron. Bishop Robert Barron supports you and your policies, creating you for defending
28:27religious freedom. Downstairs, you owe Pope Leo an apology.
28:31Do you apologize? No, I don't, because Pope Leo said things that are wrong.
28:36He was very much against what I'm doing with regard to Iran, and you cannot
28:41have a nuclear Iran. Pope Leo would not be happy with the end result.
28:45You'll have hundreds of millions of people dead, and it's not going to happen.
28:49So I can't, I think he's very weak on crime and other things, so I'm
28:55not, I mean, he went public.
28:57I'm just responding to Pope Leo, and you know, his brother is a big MAGA
29:01person, and he's a great guy, Lewis.
29:03And I said, I like Lewis better than I like the Pope.
29:06Now, you have to have law and order in our country, and that's what we
29:11have now. We have the lowest crime numbers we've had in a long time, despite
29:14the fact that many criminals were allowed into our country.
29:17But we've gotten a lot of them out.
29:19We've done a great job on crime.
29:21So we have the lowest murder rate in 125 years, since 1900, the lowest murder
29:28rate. So we believe strongly in law and order, and he seemed to have a
29:33problem with that. So there's nothing to apologize for.
29:37He's wrong. So the other thing is, he didn't like what we're doing with respect
29:41to Iran. But Iran is a, wants to be a nuclear nation, so they can
29:47exterminate the world. Not going to happen.
29:51And Mr. President, on Iran, if the deal is not reached by the end of
29:55the ceasefire, does your threat from before still stand?
29:58Yeah, I don't want to comment on that, but it won't be pleasant for them.
30:01Let me put it that way.
30:02Do you still pay attention to the toll of these restraining orders?
30:05Has your timetable changed in any way in terms of ending this conflict?
30:09No, we're just, it's going, it's going on.
30:11Right now, there's no fighting.
30:13Right now, we have a blockade.
30:16They're doing no business. I didn't like seeing boats come out if they were doing
30:20business with Iran. But if there weren't, no boats came out.
30:23So now, they're doing, Iran is doing absolutely no business.
30:27And we're going to keep it that way very easily.
30:29Don't forget, their Navy is gone.
30:31Their Air Force is gone.
30:32Their anti -aircraft is gone.
30:34Their radar is gone. And their leaders are gone.
30:37That's a lot. Do you still want to charge the toll of them?
30:40Let's come back in here.
30:42We've got to hit a commercial break.
30:44We're going to continue to run on this audio from President Trump at the White
30:49House. Buck, what stood out to me, and we'll pull this, he said about the
30:53nuclear dust, the uranium, whatever capacity it's in right now, either they give it up
30:59or we take it, which I thought is maybe the most significant thing that I
31:04heard so far. Again, we haven't been able to listen to at all.
31:07Yeah, that means this operation involving substantial ground troops and the whole thing is on
31:13the table. Yes. Full stop.
31:15That is on the table, which, let me just say, Trump sounds like he is
31:20committed to finishing off the Iranian threat, come hell or high water.
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32:49buck sexton on the iheart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts okay uh
32:54president trump continuing to speak uh he's talking about the ufc fight right now i
33:00don't know exactly what led to that question uh but i do want to play
33:04i believe we have the cut which is the most significant statement i've seen so
33:08far uh on the nuclear dust as he called it either they give it up
33:13or we take it cut 35 silver the fact that they will never have a
33:18nuclear weapon iran you market it down iran will not have a nuclear weapon and
33:25we agreed to a lot of things but they didn't agree to that and i
33:29think they will agree to it i'm almost sure of it in fact i am
33:32sure of it if they don't agree there's no deal there'll never be a deal
33:35iran will not have a nuclear weapon and we're going to get the dust back
33:39we'll get it back either we'll get it back from them or we'll take it
33:43so i haven't heard a follow -up question of that sometimes i get frustrated by
33:47the morons that are in the media because they don't even notice the most significant
33:51things that are said and follow up with it because he might not answer the
33:55question but him saying either they will give it up or we will take it
33:59is exactly how we open the program buck with you and i agree that iran
34:04can't give up their new they might say publicly as they have said before hey
34:08we're you know not going to pursue nuclear weapons but the idea that they would
34:12hand over the existing uranium that it's it's not a starter it's a non -starter
34:17this is this is an intractable part of the negocio this is why i've been
34:20saying there's not going to be a deal everybody okay because we're saying they have
34:23to give up the uranium i'm telling you there's zero chance they're going to give
34:27up the uranium willingly zero it's not happening because that would mean because if they
34:31were willing to do that why have we gone through all of this why have
34:34we been doing all this right this is the the whole thing comes down to
34:38that uh keithan from melbourne florida this is g on the talkbacks hit it buck
34:44is correct on this one it would be really stupid for us to try to
34:52extract that uranium they have a half a million men under arms as buck said
35:01they would be laying in weight for us now to be clear i didn't say
35:06it was stupid i said it would be tough and quite an operation but do
35:12i think it's within the u .s military's capability to pull this off probably i
35:16mean we what would happen is whatever entrenched soldiers etc they would have around these
35:22sites we would lay waste of them from the air which we can do right
35:25that's the thing they can't just camp out there because if they just camp out
35:29there we're going to pound them from the air so they'd have to have ways
35:33of having a quick reaction force nearby that we can't get at you know they're
35:38going to put surface air missile sites clay things like that uh but that's i
35:42think where you know the military planning on this could be uh pretty next level
35:47what i'll also say is if our goal is we have to know that they're
35:53not going to have nuclear weapons they lie all the time so the only way
35:57to ensure is to get this i think trump wants it cinematically i don't think
36:01they will give it up here's the other part of this buck that i think
36:03is significant a lot of those nuclear locations are isolated so it's not as if
36:10they were uh creating the nuclear weapons in the middle of downtown tehran they mostly
36:15were remote um we will uh break down all of this and more when we
36:20come back we got a couple of more cuts for you from president trump in
36:23the oval office i will say stock market has all turned positive on his comments
36:29um as there does not seem to be a great deal of panic over the
36:33blockade being put in place um and we'll continue to take your call you're kind
36:38of the anti -panicking you know this yes take two of clay with a glass
36:43of water and your panicking disappears i feel good about it we'll see whether i'm
36:47a moron or not eventually uh the next hour fall well we'll discuss