Hour 1 - A Fair Question to Ask About Iran
3/19/202637 mincomplete
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1:03But we got a lot of serious things to talk about with all of you.
1:07And Pete Hegseth had another early press conference about the situation unfolding in Iran.
1:15And I'm sure we're going to play some of those cuts for you.
1:18But President Trump is meeting the new leader of Japan in the Oval Office as
1:23we speak. And he just made news, as Trump typically does.
1:27Buck, one of my favorite things that Trump does is say he's not going to
1:31answer a question and then answer the question while saying he's not going to answer
1:36the question. So he was specifically asked, this is something that a lot of you
1:39have been concerned about, he was specifically asked, are you going to put so -called
1:45boots on the ground in Iran?
1:47He's typically said, hey, I'm not going to answer that.
1:50And to his credit, strategically, it would be not smart to say, potentially, if he's
1:57going to do one thing or another, leave all options open.
2:00It's harder to prepare for something if you don't know what's coming.
2:03But he said he's not going to answer, and then he answered.
2:05Here is cut 31. This just happened in the Oval Office moments ago.
2:09Potentially put U .S. troops or more troops in the region.
2:12No, I'm not putting troops anywhere.
2:15If I were, I certainly wouldn't tell you.
2:18But I'm not putting troops.
2:20And we will do whatever is necessary to keep the price as well.
2:25I actually thought when I did this, look, the Dow just hit 50 ,000 a
2:30couple of weeks ago. They said that couldn't happen for four years.
2:34It wouldn't happen in my term.
2:35It's such an outrageous thing because I said it would happen.
2:38And I didn't know it was going to happen that fast, but it just hit
2:4150 ,000. So Trump kind of dancing around there, but asked if he's going to
2:48put boots on the ground.
2:50The only place I think he would have gone, and we've said this for days
2:53and days now, is potentially Karg Island, which is the main central location of where
3:00Iranian oil is shipped, produced.
3:02We have video of Trump from back in the 1980s that we've played talking about,
3:06hey, if you're going to hit Iran, that's the place where you hit Iran.
3:09But it seems like, Buck, there is Trump had a strongly worded statement that he
3:14put out last night and continues to move towards things being done.
3:19I think you said you expected by April 1 for this thing to be over.
3:24I think that's a good number.
3:25I would go by April 15 if we want to go on the long end,
3:29which would be another three and a half or so weeks.
3:31But it does feel to me like this operation is winding down, primarily because Iran
3:38has very few ballistic missiles left and increasingly few drones.
3:42If you look at the overall trajectory of Iran's ability to fire back kind of
3:46haphazardly in every direction, they don't have that opportunity anymore to a large extent.
3:52And as that opportunity has continued to be degraded, we are now sitting in a
3:57situation where it's basically, hey, who do we want to take out?
4:02And what is a resolution here?
4:04Is that your take as President Trump, again, will continue to update, continues to answer
4:09questions? Well, sure, but I think that something else that came out last night, a
4:17reminder that this is high -stakes stuff and things can go south on us pretty
4:24quick, the president truthed out the following, Israel, out of anger for what has taken
4:31place in the Middle East, has violently lashed out at a major facility known as
4:36South Par's gas field in Iran, a relatively small section of the hole has been
4:41hit. The United States knew nothing about this particular attack and the country of Qatar
4:46was in no way, shape, or form involved with it, nor did it have any
4:51idea that it was going to happen.
4:53Unfortunately, Iran did not know this or any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the
4:57South Par's attack and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar's liquid natural gas
5:05facility. No more attacks will be made by Israel, all caps, pertaining to this extremely
5:11important and valuable South Par's field, unless Iran unwisely decides to attack a very innocent,
5:18in this case, Qatar, in which instance the United States of America, with or without
5:23the help or consent of Israel, will massively blow up the entirety of the South
5:27Par's gas field at an amount of strength and power that Iran has never seen
5:31or witnessed before. I do not want to authorize this level of violence and destruction
5:36because of the long -term implications that it will have on the future of Iran.
5:39But if Qatar's liquid natural gas is attacked again, I will not hesitate to do
5:42so. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J.
5:45Trump. I just want to read that whole thing because, wow, that's powerful stuff.
5:51There's a lot going on, a lot of different plot twists in that statement when
5:54I read it last night, I was like, oh, wow.
5:56So it's almost like you need to break down all the different categories.
6:00The first and obviously the one that jumped out the most to me was this
6:04attack that Israel levied was not one that Trump knew was coming.
6:09But I actually thought it was quite diplomatic as he moved on to say, hey,
6:14if you do anything to Qatar, then we are going to rain down holy hell
6:19on you. There are some reports that Iran seems to be stepping back from doing
6:24anything, which obviously would suggest we are moving towards a situation where maybe calming down
6:33is more likely to occur.
6:35Oil and gas prices, Buck, I thought you said this yesterday.
6:37This is of all the times that you could be the oil and gas guy.
6:42It spikes on every little news story.
6:44It comes back down on every little news story.
6:47There's a bunch of different oil markets.
6:50There now is a huge divergence between the oil markets that are based in the
6:55Middle East, largely that type of oil and gas, and crude oil, which is the
6:59typical U .S. oil and gas.
7:01As I have it open on my screen in front of me right now, $97
7:05a barrel. Crude oil, the U .S.-focused crude oil, went to $120 about a week
7:11ago. And it continues to spike or not spike entirely based on news stories right
7:17now. So you'll hear, hey, there's something new in the Strait of Hormuz or a
7:21new missile has landed, and they will move in one direction or another rapidly, even
7:27as we are talking to all of you.
7:29Crude oil right now is $97 .5 a barrel.
7:34Again, down from $120, where it went a couple of weeks ago, and sitting right
7:40at $97 .50, as I'm talking to all of you, moving on the news, basically,
7:46that's coming out of the Oval Office every sentence, almost, it feels like right now.
7:52Look, I'm wondering what exactly is going to come out of all of this, because
8:03increasingly, I think it's clear what we've been saying, there's not going to be regime
8:06change here. So you've killed the leadership off, but the security forces and the government
8:12structure below that leadership level seems like they're staying in place.
8:16You've destroyed all their military infrastructure, but that doesn't seem to change, for example, the
8:24besiegey militia, the besiege being able to terrify people into staying in their homes.
8:31And I just sit here and think, this was, what is, is it clear why
8:39we're, what we're trying to get out of this and why we got into this?
8:44I'm not sure it is.
8:45Well, I think this is a fair question to ask.
8:50What got us into this is, Iran was going to go nuclear, which we've been
8:56told for 20 years at different levels was like, months away, weeks away, months away,
9:01weeks away, okay. All right.
9:03I mean, we don't have access to that information, only the top of the national
9:06security apparatus does, which should make people a little bit uncomfortable, right?
9:09I mean, we're trying, I live through the whole WMD thing, as did all of
9:13you. We're trusting the people in charge.
9:15Now, I voted for Trump three times.
9:17I trust President Trump on matters of national security as a general rule.
9:23But there is just a trust factor there.
9:25What is the outcome here that's going to be worth the hundreds of billions of
9:32dollars that this campaign will have ended up costing?
9:35I think the challenge is, and you would know this better than anybody, having worked
9:40as a CIA analyst, predicting what was going to happen on the ground and what
9:45is happening and what's likely to happen is really, really difficult inside of Iran because
9:51the president's first statement that he made when we decapitated the government and took out
9:56the Ayatollah was, now is the time for all of you to rise up.
10:01You may not have another chance for decades or generations to take back your government.
10:05That seemed like the goal was regime change.
10:08But it now seems like, given that there doesn't appear to have been that rising
10:15tide inside of Iran, I mean, I think it's fair to say, Buck, there were
10:19tens of thousands of people in the streets protesting the government when the Ayatollah was
10:24still alive. Now he's dead, and the tens of thousands of people in the streets
10:28don't seem to be happening.
10:30Well, a lot of them are dead.
10:32But, well, yeah, he killed 30 ,000 people.
10:35Well, Australia has an incredible, a great newspaper in Australia has an incredible front page.
10:39So, yes, a lot of the resistance they killed.
10:42But I think maybe there was an expectation of more of an uprising.
10:45And as you were talking, I just sent it in.
10:47We'll play it. Besson is in the Oval Office, and he just said they still...
10:52expect for there to be an uprising inside of iran so i think part of
10:56the argument has been it's shifting in its goals because on the one hand the
11:01mow the grass strategy of hey we're just going to wipe out iran's ability to
11:05have strong weaponry and any impact in the middle east that's to me the the
11:10low end and i think likely to have occurred the high end is we're going
11:15to replace this government with one that actually is a decent one that seems unlikely
11:20and it feels to me like we're going to be somewhere in kind of the
11:23squishy middle where what exactly is iran is going to look like when we stop
11:28dropping bombs is hard to forecast here's the other thing why can israel not continue
11:34to drop bombs so if the u .s decides at some point in time hey
11:38we've done everything we think we need to do i'm not sure the joint uh
11:43response we've got an audio clip from trump about this and the truth social post
11:47that you read is indicative of this as well couldn't there be at some point
11:51a divergence in the union where the u .s says hey we think we've done
11:55enough and iran says hey you know we haven't like we saw in gaza uh
11:59when iran kept going i mean sorry israel kept going because they're trying to eliminate
12:04the threat once and for all and the threat to be fair to israel is
12:09more substantial than the threat is to the united states i think the israelis have
12:12made it clear to iranian hardliners if you do anything that negatively affects the national
12:20security or the people of israel will blow you up in a tent in the
12:24middle of nowhere in the middle of the night like we'll get you yeah i
12:29mean that that has been made clear what does that mean for the future of
12:34a country of 90 million people i mean i gotta tell you as this thing
12:37is going on here we are using a tremendous amount of munitions which are very
12:45expensive i might add in all of this to blow up a lot of kind
12:51of second and third tier military equipment um just calling it like it is so
12:59how long do we continue to do this for i mean this is going to
13:02end up being a uh an expensive an expensive side quest of sorts um from
13:09what i think a lot of people are still wondering hey we've got a we've
13:12got domestic issues here that's really what we want to see the focus on trump
13:17is aware of that look he just said uh it's going to be over pretty
13:20soon uh this is cut 33 play this one prices will go up the economy
13:29will go down a little bit i thought it would be worse much worse actually
13:33i thought there was a chance it could be much worse it's not bad and
13:36it's going to be over with pretty soon we've obliterated the navy we've obliterated their
13:41just about everything there is to obliterate including leadership their navy's gone their air force
13:46is gone their anti -aircraft equipment is gone we're flying wherever we want pete we
13:52have no nobody even shooting at us they have uh i mean and as you
13:57know their leadership is gone their leaders are gone they pick new leaders they're gone
14:02they pick new leaders they're gone and now they're looking for new leaders again we
14:06can take out the island anytime we want so he's talking about carg island there
14:12we'll go to break buck um there's a bunch more clips coming out including one
14:16all -timer from president trump on pearl harbor as he sits alongside the leader of
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15:39mentioned this pete hegg said uh secretary of war i think i've already told you
15:44this if a democrat wins in 28 this will be the least of our problems
15:48100 chance they're going to change the name back to department of defense just so
15:52you know just so this is going to be telling you buck i think it's
15:55going to go department of peace i think they're going to skip defense and they're
15:58going to go full opposite direction this is if you are correct mark this one
16:03down for a clay this is calling it in the upper deck deep into center
16:09field that would be right yes yes uh this this would be quite a call
16:14to make if they get full department of peace that would be wild um but
16:18i i guarantee you they're at least going back to DOD anyway not a big
16:21deal but I just think it's kind of funny that this is now the reality
16:24of oh by the way they might change some of the base names back although
16:27what they did with Fort Bragg was very smart they named it for a more
16:31recent American military hero named Bragg and not for the uh you know guy from
16:37the civil war so okay general by the way Braxton Bragg bad generally a terrible
16:42guy right like beat his own troops like really into corporate discipline like yeah yeah
16:47mean a mean fellow um Pete Hexeth talking about Iran as a direct threat play
16:53cut one Iran has terrorized the United States and our interests for 47 years their
17:00core industries not not steel or agriculture tourism their core industries are state -sponsored terrorism
17:07proxy militias underground networks ballistic missiles and a violent messianic Islamist ideology chasing some sort
17:15of apocalyptic end game a regime like that refusing to abandon its nuclear ambitions is
17:21not just a regional problem it's a direct threat to America to freedom and to
17:25civilization the world the Middle East our ungrateful allies in Europe even segments of our
17:31own press should be saying one thing to President Trump thank you thank you for
17:35the courage to stop this terror state from holding the world hostage that's the that's
17:43the pitch is the pitch landing with the MAGA base right now what is the
17:49polling really on this action it seems like Clay everything I've seen suggests totally a
17:55question of how quick it gets done and how little blowback there is so it's
18:00a result today Buck as we're going to break 84 % on Trump's side 6
18:04% on the Tucker Carlson side that poll just came out wow look at that
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19:03appreciate all of you hanging out with us and again oval office with the leader
19:09of japan lots of different news coming fast and furious we want to continue to
19:14update you with everything that president trump was saying some serious some funny as is
19:19often the case with president trump uh and let me see here the absolute latest
19:25um we were discussing the truth social post last night and trump was asked about
19:31his disagreement on the decision israel made to target part of iran's oil and natural
19:37gas infrastructure trump said he didn't know about it uh and uh this is cut
19:4334 trump says he told netanyahu to stop the strikes on iran's energy fields you
19:51talked to uh frame industry man about attacking the oil and gas fields yeah i
19:56did i did i told him don't do that and he won't do that we
20:00didn't discuss you know we do uh we're independent but get along great uh it's
20:05coordinated but on occasion he'll do something and if i don't like it and so
20:10we're not doing that anymore question for you buck uh could this be intentional where
20:16trump gets to play the good guy to qatar and israel gets to be the
20:21bad guy and trump says boy i didn't know we were going to do this
20:24and it's all kind of coordinated but it allows him to look like the middle
20:30agent trying to bring you know stability or do you think netanyahu just truly went
20:36rogue and did this and the american administration didn't know about it i i look
20:43this is my gut instinct i i think that uh trump doesn't want the messing
20:48with the liquid natural gas production for the whole world i this is this is
20:53real stuff if you were to eliminate let's just say let's just put this out
20:57there let's say iran had the capability to destroy the qatari liquefied natural gas field
21:04we're talking about the pars field it's a huge percentage of like a shockingly large
21:10percentage of global production and global reserves in those fields and we can pull up
21:16the stats for you in a second i don't know off the top of my
21:17head i just know it's really big i think it's the biggest liquefied natural gas
21:22facility in the world so that gives you some sense of it you want to
21:26really mess up the global economy uh in in the blink of an eye take
21:31offline now this is only one part of the facility it's going to be i'm
21:36not a catastrophe here it's going to i think it's all going to be okay
21:38it's fine but i think trump's like hey guys knock it off i think legitimately
21:45this was uh look these these this is where you have to have the talk
21:49about this too is i mean iran is a bigger threat to israel than it
21:54is to us yes that's just a fact we all know this they have different
21:59now you can be allies with people in something as we are and not have
22:03the exact same we do not there is no same national security interests if if
22:09the united states decides to stop bombing before iran does in fact i might put
22:14the probability as high that that could occur before israel does yeah yeah israelis have
22:20been taking out or or have they but i mean nuclear scientists have been you
22:26know getting blown up for a long time and a lot of people think that
22:30you know we think we know who it is i mean neither confirm nor deny
22:34but i mean you look at all the reporting on this stuff going back for
22:37a very long time i mean israel has been waging a covert war against the
22:41iranian nuclear program for for many many years and much more so than well at
22:46least than americans are aware of that their own government and again what are we
22:49doing what are the israelis doing you know uh who knows but point here is
22:54clay yeah i think israel sees this as an opportunity to just really really hit
23:00them where it hurts in iran more so even than trump is willing to do
23:04because iran is iran can't hit us with ballistic missiles iran can hit israel with
23:10ballistic missiles obviously and drones and a whole bunch of things so this is just
23:15straightforward and anybody who has any kind of oh what are you saying no of
23:19course we're different countries different population size different geography different distance to the enemy here
23:25which is iran they're going to have a different set of national security interests than
23:29we are there will be some areas where it coincides there are some areas where
23:33it doesn't and i think this is where we saw trump having to basically tell
23:38them you guys if we're doing this thing together here you got to cool a
23:41little bit on that you can't be you can't be putting uh global liquefied natural
23:46gas production at risk with any actions that you're taking because also if you took
23:51this offline i think it cost 70 billion or no 100 billion dollars or 70
23:54billion dollars to build this facility some crazy number and if you if you obliterated
23:59the whole thing it would take years years and years to rebuild this um i
24:05wonder also whether this is uh netanyahu and israel knowing that the americans might be
24:13opposed to it and doing it anyway uh with getting whatever you wanted to do
24:18done without having to clear it beforehand and create it and then you're like oh
24:22sorry we thought you were okay with this uh here is you asked the question
24:26buck about ultimate goals and again by the way clay am i wait can i
24:29ask you a question sorry i'm just yeah yeah world war ii wasn't there a
24:32dispute between america and britain over daylight bombing didn't we have uh over the bombing
24:38raids am i right about i'm reading right now i mean there were the idea
24:42that the u .s and uh and england in retrospect everybody buck says oh what
24:48a great partnership they fought all the time they disagreed on stuff all the time
24:53the the decision of when to go into europe was a huge battle and you're
24:58talking about one of the disagreements i'm totally right by the way uh britain and
25:03the u .s strongly disagreed over daylight bombing in world war ii the royal air
25:08force because they had just you know gotten hit real bad lost a lot of
25:12people they're like look we're going at night we're going at night uh because and
25:18the americans were like well we want to actually go in the day so we
25:21can see what we're hitting because this is a lot of it even with the
25:23norden bomb site or whatever this is like line of sight stuff really you're talking
25:27about and the brits were just like nah we're dropping those bombs at night that's
25:31how we're going to do it so my point here is there are this is
25:34not a new thing this is not a oh my gosh i mean i was
25:37i was going to disagree on historical reading because the idea is that the u
25:41.s and britain were in lockstep agreement and in the way that it gets covered
25:45because we won world war ii that's the perspective on it but actually there was
25:50a great deal of behind the scenes disagreement so to your point the u .s
25:53and israel having somewhat divergent perspectives is not crazy and the british were okay with
25:59higher civilian casualties i might add as well because they went through all of the
26:03attacks i mean if you go back and read it's a great book um on
26:07when when england was getting bombed when it looked like hitler was going to invade
26:12england before he decided to pivot in one of the great strategic miscalculations of all
26:17time and go after russia uh the expectation was during the bombing of britain i
26:21think they thought this goes into the bombing campaigns that they could get england to
26:26relent entirely based on the bombing campaign that that britain would just wave the white
26:31flag basically and they would never have to come across the english channel and invade
26:35um but it doesn't surprise me that england after going through that was like we're
26:40not worried about civilians because they got a lot of their civilians killed well look
26:44at the analogy here to israel after all the years of iran backing and training
26:50hamas backing and training hezbollah directing attacks on jews all over the world i i
26:56it would make perfect sense to me that israel is more willing to tolerate more
27:01damage in now they have been very precise in their strikes i'm not saying they're
27:05going out of their way to hit civilian targets i am saying infrastructure targets they
27:10may be a little more accepting of uh and that's certainly what donald trump is
27:14i'm just repeating essentially essentially I mean, Iran is not targeting directly attacks on anybody.
27:18They're just kind of haphazardly flying, firing in whatever direction they can.
27:23So if I'm Israel, frankly, if I'm Qatar, the UAE, any of these countries, my
27:27concern about civilian casualties is lower after seeing what Iran's been willing to do with
27:31us. Now, Buck, I wanted to play this.
27:33Scott Bessent also in the Oval Office.
27:36I believe this is where that came from.
27:38Team, correct me if I'm wrong, if this was a interview happening at the same
27:42time in a different spot.
27:43But I think Scott Bessent also in the Oval Office.
27:46He said, kind of echoed the initial statement that Trump made, which is we're seeing
27:52mass defections. And at some point, he thinks the regime is going to collapse inside
27:59of Iran. This is a little bit of a different take, more aggressive, more akin
28:05to what Trump said immediately after the first strike that took out the Ayatollah cut
28:0935. We are seeing the defections at all levels.
28:13As they're starting to sense what's going on with the regime.
28:19Did that just cut? We are seeing the defections at all levels as they're starting
28:25to sense what's going on with the regime.
28:28It doesn't get reported here in the U .S.
28:30very well. But we are trouncing them from the air.
28:33And the regime will probably collapse within itself.
28:36At Treasury, we've seen where they've wired their money out of the country.
28:40We're coming for that. We're going to get it back to the Iranian people.
28:44We've seen defections. It's real.
28:46There's a lot of military defections also.
28:49You have a lot of military defections in Iran.
28:52I don't blame them. So that is a little bit different perspective.
28:57That's more akin to what was initially said, Buck, which is that there is some
29:02sign potentially or maybe they're trying to create it by talking about it, that some
29:07of these entrenched interests in the Iranian government are actually buckling.
29:13This would be if they pull off what Trump and Besson are talking about here,
29:19which is which is regime change without invasion, just regime where effectively we are we
29:25are acting like the air force, the preemptive air force of an Iranian resistance movement.
29:32That's really how this lines up if they pull this off.
29:36And that's how this actually goes down.
29:39This will be the most incredible foreign policy military maneuver since D -Day, honestly.
29:46I mean, this this is a a incredible generation defining success.
29:52So the fact that they're still talking about this and hopeful that can happen just
29:58gives you a sense of possibility.
30:02But real tough stuff they're trying to pull.
30:04Here's what I would also say, Buck.
30:06It is also they're going for the home run.
30:08They're just going for the home run here.
30:09I think it's also just a sign of the tech.
30:11Right. Yesterday, we told you about the guy who thought he was safe.
30:15One of their top Iranian generals living in a tent in a in a, you
30:18know, like literally not able.
30:20Theoretically, he went totally offline and they sent in a drone and wiped him out.
30:25The tech is better now than it ever has been before.
30:28By the way, I actually think the drone tech is going to get scary.
30:32Nobody. Everybody talks about nuclear weapons.
30:34Think about when individuals get access to bombing with drones and the dangers that that
30:40can create inside of every country.
30:42One thing that I just militarily I think is interesting, the fact that they've gone
30:49so hard, so fast at Iran, something in the background that I'm sure has affected
30:54these calculations and the reason why Secretary of War and the Trump administration and the
31:00president himself as commander in chief have been let's go, go, go.
31:04And just a tremendous amount of ordinance has been dropped on on Iran.
31:09Clay, we already know. I mean, there's open reporting about it now, but it was
31:13obviously going to happen. The Russians are giving real time intelligence to the Iranians.
31:18Now they're sending them their most advanced, their best or, you know, some of their
31:22more advanced, I should say, drone technology.
31:25And Russians have gotten really good at this because of the Ukraine war.
31:28Or they're sending them stuff, they're sending them gear, they're giving them intel.
31:31They want to try to mess us up in Iran because, of course, they're, from
31:36the Russian perspective, understandably, very bitter.
31:39Putin's very bitter about our backing of the Ukrainian resistance.
31:43So what I'm saying is taking out as much of their military infrastructure as possible,
31:47as quickly as possible, really makes a difference because the Russians were going to try
31:52to create a quagmire, even just for our air force there.
31:55Give them better surface -to -air missiles, give them better target, give them whatever they
31:58can. Yeah. And, by the way, we're doing all of that to Russia and Ukraine,
32:04as you were doing. Right.
32:05So for everybody out there who's like, how dare Russia?
32:07What are we going to do, send them a strongly -worded letter, you know?
32:10We're trying to kill as many Russians as we can by assisting Ukraine, too.
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33:45Sometimes, as part of this news program, we get excited because we know we're going
33:51to bring you some really fun stuff.
33:52President Trump is sitting down, has been sitting down, with the leader of Japan.
34:01And we're going to hold this.
34:02because he's been very Trump -like.
34:04That I can tell you.
34:06He's been very charming, very interesting, very funny, and we'll bring you some of the
34:12best stuff. If you were to guess, what kind of a joke do you think
34:16Donald Trump would make sitting down with the premier of Japan?
34:22What kind of joke would he make?
34:25You could probably guess, and he went there.
34:28So we're going to get into this.
34:29This is what they call a tease in the business.
34:31We will play this for you shortly, but also bring you everything that he's talking
34:34about from the Oval because he's Trump, so he's taking a whole range of questions
34:37and things. And Clay, I'm actually very, I'm happy that you played that Besson and
34:43also Trump clips where they were saying there are these defections, there is hope on
34:48the ground for the resistance.
34:50I hope that's true. That would be incredible.
34:52Like I said, this would be an unbelievable military really stroke of genius if this
35:02really brings an end to the terrorist regime of the mullahs, if it does.
35:07I wouldn't bet on it right now, and I'm sure you can bet in Polymarket
35:11or whatever on it, but I think it's a tough one.
35:15That all said, if Trump is confident on this one, look, Venezuela is in a
35:20much better place. Cuba may soon be in a better place.
35:24We'll see how that goes.
35:26But in the situation of Iran right now, the more reporting we get on that,
35:29the better. Look, this is where the military history angle to me is really interesting
35:35to comprehend. If you go back to the Iraq war and just think about how
35:40difficult it was to catch Saddam Hussein, for instance, how much better is the tech
35:45now such that how much of the Iraq war could have been managed without boots
35:50on the ground if we had 2026 technology back in 2003?
35:58That is really, I mean, a generation difference.
36:01How much could that have changed?
36:03Well, this is like I said, having seen two different drone strikes 20 years or
36:07so apart, one in theater, one here in the States just watching the footage.
36:12It's gone from we blow up the whole car and everybody in it and that's
36:17just the way it is to we can take out one person in one seat
36:20and the rest of the car survives?
36:22Yeah. That gives you a pretty good sense of how much things have changed and
36:27also the surveillance technology that we have now, the ability, the eyes and ears that
36:32we can get through drones, through our tech on these targets, incredible.
36:36This is where it scares me going forward because I just think that a lot
36:42of people don't realize how easy it is to remotely kill people and I think
36:47it's going to translate into the future of the world that we're in, I'm afraid.
36:52Wasn't there like a weird Tom Selleck movie about robots that kill people back in
36:56the 80s? Oh, I have no idea.