Hour 2 - Iran Deep Dive
3/24/202637 mincomplete
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0:07Let's talk straight of Hormuz, the conflict with Iran, and bringing our friend Steve Yates.
0:13He's a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a former Bush national security official.
0:19And Steve, just take us through as you see it here.
0:24We know Hormuz is a choke point.
0:27Why is this so complicated?
0:30What do you think can be done about it?
0:32How do we resolve this thing?
0:34I saw an editorial in the journal, Wall Street Journal, saying, you know, we just
0:39got to land troops to secure the strait, and it's just going to be a
0:42quick operation. And I'm like, whoa, hold on a second.
0:46I've heard that before. What do you think about what's going on here?
0:50Well, Buck, as you know, it's a very confined geography.
0:53That's one of the major challenges.
0:55It's a very long strip of waterway where Iran has shoreline all along one side.
1:02There are some very, very wealthy neighbors on the other side of that water that
1:06would like to get their energy out to market.
1:09And then it goes through this very narrow strait that is a choke point.
1:14There's an island in the middle of it that Trump has hit some military targets
1:17on and has talked about maybe taking control over that is responsible for refining and
1:23has an extremely high proportion of Iran's oil endowment.
1:27So I think people who say this is a simple military operation might be underselling
1:31it a bit. They are so close to Iran geographically that even with remnants, you
1:37might still get hit. And I think that's why President Trump has done this maximum
1:41pressure, but then pull back and say, if we can get a deal that gets
1:46them to relent and we reopen things, then we're in a better place.
1:50And he also has pressured allies to say, you know, we have a really small
1:54American percentage of this oil.
1:56You guys come in and shepherd your vessels out of here and the Iranians shouldn't
2:01shoot at you. And so I think there's these at least two layers that really
2:05need to get handled before the curve is turned on this.
2:08Steve, I think a lot of our listeners are just not very familiar with the
2:13Strait of Hormuz in general.
2:16Based on my reading, the vast majority of oil and gas that is coming through
2:20the Strait of Hormuz has no impact on the United States oil and gas marketplace
2:25at all. And I think much of it ends up going to China.
2:30With that in context, to what extent actually should this be a larger global issue?
2:38A lot of the focus has been on the United States oil and gas market,
2:41but really it's more of a global issue than it is a United States one.
2:46Well, Clay, that's right. But first and foremost, oil is a fungible good, which is
2:50a fancy word of meaning.
2:51It can it can shift in value and get sold and bought in any number
2:56of different ways. And so when oil goes out of this restricted area and goes
3:02to China, that affects global supply in the market and it affects prices.
3:06And so any release of resources out of this conflict zone will have downward pressure
3:11on price in some measure.
3:13It's definitely the case that China is the overwhelming buyer of Iran oil.
3:18It's partly because it's been sanctioned for a long time and they've gotten it at
3:21a discount. President Trump is trying to remove that discount and get them to pay
3:25for a little bit of the security freight.
3:27India also depends on a good bit of this, too.
3:30But it's definitely one of these global commons issues of where Europeans depend to some
3:36degree and Asian major powers depend in a large degree.
3:40And America is providing them a service that Trump aims to pay, get them to
3:43pay a bill for. Steve, how do you assess the Trump I'm going to speaking
3:50from the Trump perspective here said we're going to hit the energy facilities, power plants,
3:56I believe, and energy facilities in Iran unless they open the strait.
4:02But then we heard there's some back channel negotiation.
4:04So he has put that red line or he has moved that timeline down a
4:11bit. How do you think this is going?
4:13Is it possible to read into this?
4:15I mean, I know with Trump, I feel like part of the strategy is actually
4:20a little bit of the perception of chaos that the opposition can take from his
4:26statements. What do you think about what he's doing?
4:29Well, Buck, you know, from people who've been longtime practitioners, we think of this as
4:33somewhat straight statecraft. I think of it as Trumpcraft.
4:36He hits like a sledgehammer and then he'll pull back and he'll look for where
4:41are their deals. And he recognizes just common sense that if we can get them
4:46to relent and engage in some kind of a verifiable deal, that is safer, more
4:51endurable. And it's a much preferable path to go down.
4:55At the same time, even though his critics will never recognize it, he's being reasonable.
5:00He's giving them off ramps every step along this way so that if they miss
5:04this deadline and I suspect they might miss this deadline, Trump will hit them hard.
5:09But he's tried to leave the civilian energy infrastructure intact so that post -conflict reconstruction
5:16is cheaper and better for the people of Iran if they can take their country.
5:21So he's trying to do them a solid.
5:23Hopefully they recognize. But I would make no mistake about it.
5:26This deadline passes very much further.
5:28Trump's going to hit them hard, and that is kind of a classical form of
5:32warfare. You take the energy out to end the war machine.
5:36That's how you get total surrender.
5:38We're talking to Stevie Aates.
5:39As we've been talking to you in the last, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes,
5:44the story from the Wall Street Journal, U .S.
5:47has ordered 3 ,082nd airborne soldiers to the Middle East.
5:52Trump has given Iran a Friday deadline.
5:56What do you think it would look like if there were to be a raid?
6:01And I say raid because I don't think we're going to be setting up bases
6:04in Iran that potentially could involve Karj Island or putting troops to try to protect
6:11the Strait of Hormuz. In a big -picture sense, what might that look like?
6:16And obviously, Trump is at least threatening that he might do so with these actions.
6:22Well, I do think the Karj Island option is very much front and center.
6:26I really don't like the option personally of the U .S.
6:31being kind of the sole provider of security in this.
6:34It really should be something that is a shared responsibility, especially among those Gulf allies
6:39who have been hit by Iran and now say they're going to hit back and
6:43they need to provide security for their flows to go to market.
6:47So I really hope the president is working behind the scenes to get them involved
6:51so that there's skin in the game in every sense and it's not just American
6:54targets for Iranian forces to hit.
6:58We would have to just knock the crap out of their coastline to have a
7:02safe buffer for ships and we'd probably have to occupy Karj Island to control that.
7:08Do we have a sense, and we're speaking to Stephen Yates, senior fellow at the
7:11Heritage Foundation, national security expert.
7:15Steve, do we have a sense of what the acceptable endgame is here?
7:21Again, Trump has indicated numerous times of an endgame or what maybe it looks like
7:29depending on the day, but I think there's variations on a theme here.
7:33Where do you think, what do you think would be acceptable for this to get
7:37to at least a ceasefire and some next phase?
7:42Right. Well, Buck, I think of it as getting to a de -escalation point that
7:45sort of pivots into longer -term maintenance.
7:48And I think President Trump has been clear about some of the standards.
7:51One has been hyper -focused on the nuclear programs.
7:54That's combined U .S. and Israeli operations that might involve having to have some forces,
8:00hopefully not ours, but some forces going in to physically control and verify disarmament in
8:07those sensitive facilities. The launch capabilities, complete defanging of the security forces.
8:12I think that's also been more the Israeli mission in recent days.
8:16So I think it's overwhelmingly getting the flow of resources, not just because we love
8:23oil, although that's a good thing to love to keep the world running, it's to
8:26make it so that markets calm, resources flow, and there's a sense of where we
8:31can get post -major military operations.
8:34I think that we should and must get there in the next week or two,
8:38and that's where we'll get a sense of, is this tipping into a more complex
8:44entanglement, or have we really hit all those targets that the Secretary of War and
8:48the President have said we have?
8:51Trump has been talking about doing this since the 1980s.
8:54There have been people out there who have said, oh, he only did this because
8:58of Israel. Buck and I have talked about this.
9:00I'm curious how you would analyze the likelihood of this.
9:03I can see a world where the United States says, hey, we've done everything we
9:07want to do, and pulls back, and Israel continues to hit Iran.
9:11What do you think the likelihood of that is, that this union of attack eventually
9:15turns into a solitary attack from Israel?
9:20Well, I 100 % agree that it's going to change.
9:24I don't want it to be solitary in the sense that I really seriously hope
9:27that our regional partners play more of a role in constructively shaping the security and
9:33economic environment there after major military operations wind down.
9:38I believe completely the President has his set of clear objectives.
9:42He wants to make sure there's a return on the investment, but he's definitely, I
9:47think, going to be looking in the shorter -term horizon, whereas Israel and maybe some
9:51other partners really need to do the constant gardening in the longer term.
9:55We can hit every once in a while when necessary.
9:58I think that's appropriate for the United States as a superpower, but we can't be
10:02the one that's micromanaging this, even in the months, much less years range, going after
10:07this. What does a realistic future of the Iranian state look like that would be
10:16clear evidence that the Trump plan here has worked?
10:21I mean, essentially, Steve, what is, yeah, victory for us is obviously straight -up Hormuz
10:27is open, oil is flowing, we have some kind of, as you said, a de
10:31-escalation agreement, got to figure out what the Israelis are going to do in this
10:34as well. I figure there's going to be some high -level, the highest -level talks
10:38between Trump and Netanyahu on this, but is there a world in which we decide
10:43we can live with the mullahs still kind of in charge, but they're just really
10:47wimpy and frightened mullahs, or is it some kind of a...
10:52pathway to a representative democracy, maybe overseen by some Arab League transition process.
11:01I mean, I'm basically asking you to fix the Middle East here, but we had
11:04a lady call in and fix the DHS problem with TSA.
11:08So, you know, you've been doing this for like 30, 40 years, Steve.
11:11You tell me, how does the next phase of Iran look if this all goes
11:15according to plan? Well, Buck, the first sign I'm looking for is an actual human
11:20being with a name that is the person or group that President Trump has been
11:25negotiating with directly or indirectly.
11:28I think for their own life sake, they have kept this person anonymous, a lot
11:34of speculation. But really, if there's going to be a soft transition, it's going to
11:39have to be into the hands of some entity that's recognizable so that we and
11:43others in the international community can make deals that ensure the peace and get through
11:48this transition. So first, we're going to have to see who's the they when President
11:52Trump says they have made a commitment to denuclearize.
11:56That would be a major win if that's true.
11:58And I believe the president is hearing that.
12:01But complete, verifiable, irreversible dismantlement of that program is a 30 plus year long objective.
12:07If President Trump did that in a month or two, that's borderline miraculous.
12:11And so getting that person identified, that group identified, and then international peacekeepers or verifiers,
12:18that's where we can go back to the allies and say, hey, you guys have
12:21got to come up with a coalition that does this, you run into problems, we
12:24might be your 911. But what not?
12:26We're not your daily daddy.
12:28Last question, CV8s. There are reports that Saudi Arabia is encouraging Trump to keep pouring
12:35on the steel, so to speak on Iran, UAE Qatar, based on reports kicking Iranian
12:44diplomats out of their country.
12:48Is the most under discussed part of this entire attack, how much support there is
12:54for it from so called other Arab Muslim countries?
12:58Well, Clay, that's ultimately been the biggest rebuttal to this idea that it was somehow
13:03Israel that on its own dragged us into this.
13:06For years, I have heard from Arab allies, deep, deep concerns.
13:10And it was frankly, welcomed by then when Trump 1 .0 brought in the maximum
13:15pressure campaign to get away from the Obama Iran nuclear deal.
13:21They were the key drivers that made the Abraham Accords a reality.
13:26It was, yes, the US and Israel involved and very much so, but it was
13:30Arab allies that pushed very, very hard in this.
13:32And this really ultimately gets back to Trump craft 1 .0.
13:37He's resetting all of these trouble zones with different cards and different coalitions.
13:43And I think those Arab allies are sick of what Iran has done to them
13:46during this conflict and really over the last decades.
13:49Steve, outstanding stuff as always.
13:51Keep us updated. I know the audience is going to appreciate all this deep dive,
13:54and we will talk to you again soon.
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15:50Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
15:54We'll take a bunch of your calls as we have a relatively quick turn here.
15:59I thought we could have some fun on the backside since we've had a lot
16:02of serious discussion going on.
16:05Our friend Jesse Kelly, who many of you here on many of the same premier
16:09networks in the evening, just tagged me.
16:12Major League Baseball opening day is I think tomorrow.
16:17I think Major League or Thursday.
16:19It's coming up. very soon i know it's this week and a lot of teams
16:23have been leaning in buck i don't think you'd ever heard about this before there
16:27is a challenge if you go to a ball game can you drink nine beers
16:32and eat nine hot dogs during the course of a nine inning game buck is
16:39reacting as you would probably anticipate buck would react to this and jesse kelly says
16:44in his 20s he think he could he thinks he could have pulled it off
16:47i feel very confident about the beers uh that i could get through nine stadium
16:54beers in a baseball game if i were trying to the hot dogs set like
17:00sounds awful i i i'm not opposed to hot dogs one hot dog is good
17:06right if you have one hot dog you're like hey this is pretty good two
17:10is okay three hot dogs is gross i just i i could never go triple
17:18that's what she said i think there's probably some of you out there say i
17:21don't even know i'm gonna leave the hot dog eating contest and the b and
17:25the beers where like the you and our friend jesse kelly jesse has a lot
17:29of a lot of vert you know most people would have horizontal room for these
17:33things jesse has a lot of vertical room you know it's like the jolly green
17:36giant can take in more calories than a normal person well you know it's like
17:41the uh what who is it the uh joey chestnut i think is the basic
17:44hot dog eating champion uh consistently in the nathans hot dog eating i met him
17:50at a football game uh this past fall uh but the guy eats like 65
17:56hot dogs or something that just i once called it hot dog eating contest live
18:01on radio uh in a nathans which is that that is frustrating credulity to have
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19:02let's get some of our esteemed callers uh we have uh all lines are lit
19:09because now all of our callers are like you know what i've waited long enough
19:13i'm gonna save the republic i'm going to tell you the thing you need to
19:17know to save the republic so you know we appreciate that a lot of confidence
19:22a lot of confidence from the callers on this program now some people are saying
19:26the most confident callers ever uh let's see jimmy and memphis isn't there a song
19:33about mem uh walking in memphis a great right walking in memphis that's what i
19:37keep thinking of jimmy and memphis what's going on you guys are going on gentlemen
19:43you've got one of the most awesome shows i know buck has got a book
19:47to sell and i already got it and i bought two buck because i always
19:51give it to one of my friends because when he borrows the book he never
19:54gives it back and denies he ever borrowed it but i bought two just to
19:58play it thank you you're you're a good man and manufacturing delusion is the book
20:02there's been a price drop on amazon go get a copy of manufacturing delusion the
20:06new york times bestseller today what have you got for us jimmy all right what
20:10i got for you all right memphis tennessee listen i always used to joke around
20:14i grew up in memphis i moved down came back uh if we sold memphis
20:19to our to arkansas and mississippi the crime rate in tennessee would go down by
20:23a thousand percent this is actually true this is a funny line people look at
20:28tennessee crime rate arkansas and and memphis is the capital of arkansas and mississippi for
20:34those of you who are not great at geography so yes sorry to cut you
20:38off but that is a very funny line right and uh the thing is like
20:43elvis is graceland draws about a half a million if you did something about the
20:47crime rate i think it would be well over a million people going there that
20:50white haven neighborhood where graceland is is not really is a very high crime area
20:54no matter what anybody says it has helped that trump has brought in the national
20:58guard he's highlighted memphis tennessee and there are places in memphis tennessee that could be
21:04a tourist attraction but people will not come to see memphis tennessee if there's big
21:09crime areas surrounding it and in it there is germantown right next to which is
21:14beautiful but it's outside memphis tennessee so the bottom line here is this guys and
21:19i love your show i want to be a regular caller we got to end
21:23legal immigration it's turned the democratic party into a left -wing party that 65 immigration
21:29act has basically turned the democratic party and our big cities upside down and they're
21:35not coming back uh mandany got elected in new york city with 85 percent foreign
21:40voters they try to lie during the campaign say oh it was a bunch of
21:44college kids are going to do uh are going to like to know it wasn't
21:47It was foreigners who elect him.
21:49Mandani's a foreigner. And let me tell you something.
21:52Mandani today would be in Uganda selling cheeseburgers if Pat Buchanan got elected president 25
21:59years ago when I was a kid, a teenager, supporting the great Pat Buchanan and
22:04get in the middle of freedom.
22:06He deserves it, gentlemen. Love it.
22:08Thank you for the call, Jimmy.
22:10I would not have said Jimmy was from Memphis, born and raised.
22:13I'm not going to lie.
22:13I would have thought he was from an East Coast, maybe moved to Memphis, but
22:16maybe there's some Memphians. Jimmy sounds like he could be head of the Clay and
22:22Buck Listener Club from Staten Island or listen on WOR.
22:26Jimmy was not – that's not a Memphis accent, is it?
22:29I would not have expected it.
22:31By the way, James in South Carolina, Buck, we asked for some ideas.
22:36We got some interesting ones, James.
22:38What's your idea? Hi, guys.
22:41Love the show. It's an honor to speak to you.
22:44Long -time Rush listener from many, many years ago.
22:48Thank you. Fire away. What's your idea?
22:52Hey, my contribution to Make America Great Again is I've called it the 30 Minutes
22:58in the Middle initiative. We need to get rid of daylight savings time.
23:02We're 30 minutes in the middle and never look back again, guys.
23:06Thank you for the call.
23:07That seems crazy. So we would – Clay is hitting the gong.
23:12It's a no from me, dog.
23:14Clay is saying it's a no from me.
23:17If you want me to be in charge of time, if you made me time
23:22czar, first of all, I don't think we should ever change the time.
23:25And I would leave the time as it is right now.
23:29When I got home yesterday, Buck, my kids got home.
23:34They're playing sports, and there's still daylight outside.
23:36I would rather have afternoon daylight than I would rather have early morning daylight.
23:42That's my personal opinion. But if you ask me to really solve the time issue,
23:47and I'm really going to rattle the cage now, I would eliminate four time zones,
23:53Buck. Have you ever heard this argument?
23:54I would eliminate four time zones, and I would make the entire nation two time
24:00zones. I would make the Mississippi River the dividing line, and we would have east
24:05time east of the Mississippi and west time west of the Mississippi.
24:11And the entire nation would then be on a time zone where we were only
24:16one hour apart. So if you're in Maine or you're in L .A., you would
24:23be one hour apart. If you're in Seattle or Miami, one hour apart.
24:27And I think it would make the country more efficient instead of having to deal
24:31with the four different time zones.
24:34And I'm in the central time, so I think you probably take the central time
24:38for one half of the country, and you take the mountain for the other half
24:42of the country, and boom, the entire nation is united in only two time zones.
24:46Now, that's a little bit of an aggressive take, but I think it would be
24:50a good one. The 30 -minute change, I don't like the 30 -minute time change.
24:55Kelly, oh, I'm sorry. Clay, I keep thinking you're done.
24:57You're very fired up about this.
24:59I don't know how many people are out there.
25:01My wife is great at many things, but she does not understand time zones.
25:05It doesn't matter where we are.
25:07She is like a mathematical genius.
25:10She cannot figure out what time it is anywhere.
25:13Like, it is one of the most unbelievable things.
25:16I'm on the West Coast and have been a lot over the years.
25:19She never had any idea how to figure out what time it was.
25:22She is really good at many things.
25:24Time zone she doesn't do.
25:26I think this would help her and many other time zone having issue.
25:31I don't even know if there's a phobia or an issue for it.
25:34But, anyway, solving that problem.
25:36Kelly in Wyoming, what you got?
25:39Hey, I got something to maybe get this SAVE Act pushed through.
25:43We know 80 % of the population wants this.
25:46And there's a lot of Democrats that have, you know, constituents that want this.
25:51And I want to give them some cover.
25:54Let's amend the SAVE Act to allow the states to create an endorsement for any
26:01new identification that is a negative firearms restriction.
26:07So that new identification would carry an endorsement that says you can't own a firearm
26:16if there's been a judgment or something of that nature.
26:19And then it's immediately available to everybody.
26:22You go to a gun show.
26:24You got that endorsement. You can't buy a firearm.
26:27You get pulled over on the highway.
26:29Highway patrolman's running your identification.
26:32Boom, it's right there. This guy can't have a firearm.
26:36Thank you for the call.
26:39Buck, you've bought way more guns than we have in the Travis family.
26:43But buying a gun is actually very difficult.
26:46And they run background checks on you everywhere already.
26:50So I'm not sure what his argument is.
26:54I would say a variation.
26:57I don't get that. A felon is not.
26:58First of all, a felon can't even be in possession of a gun.
27:00So if you're a felon, you can't even borrow a gun from your buddy to
27:03go hunting or something. I mean, a felon cannot be in possession of a firearm.
27:07And then, yeah, they run.
27:09If you're buying from any FFL, they're going to run a NICS check on you,
27:13which they do. I mean, they do.
27:15They do. Thank you. They do this on me every time I buy a gun.
27:17I think the best argument as it relates to guns and the SAVE Act is
27:22many people will say when you say, hey, you have to show an ID to
27:25buy a beer or to buy a ticket to a concert or game or whatever.
27:30They will say, well, that's not a constitutional right.
27:35It is a constitutional right to bear arms and the restrictions on buying guns are
27:39voluminous. So requiring an ID to vote doesn't feel like anywhere near the restrictions to
27:45buy a gun. Both are constitutional rights.
27:47Absolutely true. I'm just thinking here, too, what would I get when we get in
27:51trouble on YouTube? If I like I just picked up, I got an SBR of
27:56my MP9 from BNT, which is a Swiss gun manufacturer and the proprietary suppressor that
28:02comes along with it. So I had to go through the not just the normal
28:05gun process, but also the ATF tax stamps.
28:09I have a double tax stamp on this rig.
28:11If I held it up for the YouTube, like it's because it's sitting on my
28:14desk over here. Does you know you're there are gun YouTubes.
28:17That's OK, right? Like you're as long as it's legal where you are, where this
28:22is legal. But I'm saying I forget what the social media rules are about.
28:27Because, you know, for example, Bumble had a policy, the dating app.
28:31I remember reading about this.
28:32Bumble had a policy was not a Bumble guy back in the day that if
28:37you were even like skeet shooting, they would shut it would shut down your profile.
28:42I will say I would.
28:44I you could be very pro gun having guns in your dating profile picture.
28:49If I were a girl, that would be a little bit of a red flag.
28:53Now, there are some guys out there that would say a hot girl shooting might
28:56be more likely for you to be interested.
28:58I don't think you think it's a red flag.
28:59If a guy has if he's out skeet shooting.
29:01No, I think if he chooses that to be a representative of what he wants
29:06people to see, I think that's a little bit.
29:09Maybe it's a little bit.
29:09Maybe he's an Olympic skeet shooter.
29:11You play or what are you talking about over here flipping it here?
29:14I think for girls that would really work, but it's just very funny.
29:18The number of gun magazines that just put a hot chick in a bikini.
29:24I don't know if these gun magazines still exist.
29:26I don't know what magazines are out there anymore.
29:28Do you remember back when we were kids like guns and ammo every now and
29:33then would just have a smoking hot chick in a bikini?
29:35Clearly not. I believe they call them.
29:38I believe they call them a gun bunny is gun.
29:41Oh, that's a great phrase.
29:42Yeah, they'd have gun bunnies.
29:44I just that is the most male thing ever.
29:46We're going to give a girl a big gun and put her in a bikini
29:49and guys are like, this is the greatest thing that's ever existed.
29:53I think girls using guns in profile pictures probably would be attractive to certain guys.
30:00I don't think there are that many guys who post gun shots, you know, like
30:05videos or whatever else on their profile.
30:07Now, I've never had an online dating profile, so I'm flying a little bit blind
30:11here. I got married before any of this stuff existed.
30:14So I have I've never filled out an online profile like this.
30:18So I have really no idea.
30:20But it seems to me that that wouldn't be a huge, a huge level of
30:25support out there. Does that make sense?
30:28I mean, am I wrong?
30:30I know inevitably a bunch of women are going to be like, there's nothing hotter
30:33than a guy holding an AK.
30:35I think most women would be like, you know, just put yourself in a baseball
30:40cap and maybe not even that, because then you could be bald and trying to
30:43hide it. I don't know.
30:45The two, the two way community may be coming for you in the comments.
30:49You have hair and that you're six feet and you will just be swimming in
30:54chicks. That would be my suggestion on for online dating profiles.
30:59If you're short and bald, you're done for.
31:02Just go ahead and meet people in person.
31:05Clay's throwing our short kings under the bus here.
31:07Short and bald men are not going to are not going to pop on the
31:11social media dating apps. I think you just if you got the baldness going, you
31:15just got to own it.
31:16You know, you just got to go.
31:17You shave it and you and you leave me know.
31:20Maybe you start running a little gear to get those muscles going pretty big.
31:24I bet you would sign off on this for me.
31:27Women discriminate against short and bald men publicly more than men discriminate against women for
31:33any physical attribute at all.
31:36It's perfect. It's perfectly acceptable.
31:38Yes. For some reason, this is perfect.
31:40Like for women to say, I don't agree with this, by the way.
31:42I think women are more heidest than anything else.
31:47And hair that exists. Yes.
31:48In in the dating community.
31:50And I come out of this from just a few years ago.
31:53So women are more you and I've talked about this.
31:56Yeah. Both of our wives who happen to be about the same height, like within
32:00an inch of each other.
32:01We are the bottom rung of acceptable height for them, which is crazy.
32:07Laura's five to I asked her, would you date me if I were five eight?
32:10She said no. She's five to I still would have been way taller than her.
32:15And she said, no, I would.
32:17I wouldn't have dated. You'd have been too short for me.
32:19Like, I'm still a half.
32:20I still would have been a half foot taller than you.
32:22No, not enough. These women, the heidest thing.
32:25I don't know where this came from.
32:26Like, God forbid. They're heidests everywhere.
32:28God forbid. Guy says in his dating profile, fat chicks.
32:33No, he is the worst person that has ever existed in the history of mankind.
32:37Right. Like, women are like, how dare he?
32:40Women are like six foot or taller.
32:43it's totally expected there it's just it really is i i'll tell you this too
32:49and this is going to probably get me in some trouble because there's all this
32:52there's a lot just so you know some of you are like what are you
32:54even talking about because you've been out of this game for a long time you're
32:56happily married 20 years 50 years whatever um online there's a lot of back and
33:01forth about women and men and dating and the whole because all it is all
33:04online now pretty much it's 90 percent of people are meeting online and all this
33:07stuff and and one of the things that comes up is there's not enough good
33:11men or there's not enough women there's all this back and forth bickering i have
33:15never come across in my personal life a person who was fit kind and emotionally
33:22stable who had any problem in dating other than too many options and needed to
33:28focus that's that's just my male or female fit fit yes kind emotionally stable the
33:38only problem i've ever seen male or female in that situation is too many options
33:43yeah too many options which is a problem of its own kind but this thing
33:47of like there's no good guys or there's no good girls no there's plenty no
33:51i think one of the big problems honestly is that social media makes there so
33:55many options that a lot of times people can't make a choice about what they
34:00want and that options the multiplicity i know women who are my age now that
34:04i grew up with in new york i know many of them who are still
34:06unmarried still don't have kids and they went through their 20s and 30s with their
34:11pick of any guy they wanted to go on a date with but that was
34:14actually their problem because they were waiting they were waiting for the european prince with
34:18a six -pack who's a billionaire to finally pop the question and there's a reason
34:22that disney is fantasy you know what i'm saying that's not really a thing sometimes
34:26you have to take the the best of maybe not perfect options that's how we
34:30got married uh born on america's darkest day we were those options by the way
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35:57uh cut 10 i believe it is we had a uh moment on jimmy kimmel
36:03last night linda from arizona got a shout out listen i see you just reported
36:08for duty at 14 airports today and by the way if you're wondering how all
36:13these brilliant ideas seem to magically pop into his head he came up with this
36:18one a day after clay travis floated it on fox news clay travis said the
36:23idea was pitched by a caller into his radio show which means it's very possible
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36:36in arizona just continuing to take over media everywhere you know what i'm waiting for
36:41light him up linda to call in be like all right straight of hormuz i've
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