The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Weaponized Immigration: Peter Schweizer on The Invisible Coup and America’s Political Power Struggle
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0:08Today, we're exposing the hidden forces reshaping America through weaponized mass migration.
0:14Joining me for it is investigative powerhouse Peter Schweizer.
0:18You know him. He's the number one bestselling author, and he's the author of the
0:21new explosive book, The Invisible Coup.
0:24We're going to talk about Mexico's shadow election interference, how China exploits her visa process,
0:30and how some of these cartels form alliances with progressives.
0:34This is also all timely as we see what's going down in places like Minneapolis
0:38and around the country with these anti -ice forces, and also Democrats protecting the deportation
0:45of child predators and murderers and terrible people.
0:49So Peter's revelations uncover this plot that's eroding our sovereignty.
0:54Trust me, you're not going to want to miss this conversation.
0:56Peter is always a wealth of knowledge, and this is extremely interesting.
1:00So stay tuned for Peter Schweizer.
1:07Well, Peter, it's always great to have you on the show.
1:10I'm really interested in hearing more about this new book, Invisible Coup.
1:14It's very timely considering what we're seeing in Minneapolis and around the country with these
1:20attacks on ICE and the left and the media.
1:24For some reason or another, deciding to protect pedophiles and rapists and child predators from
1:30deportation. So thank you for coming on the show.
1:33Appreciate it. Yeah, always great to be with you, Lisa.
1:36Thanks for having me. Yeah, it's a crazy time.
1:39Before we dig into the book specifically, why do you think, or maybe, you know,
1:44I mean, this probably parlays this into the book, but why do you think the
1:47left are so protective of these criminal legal aliens?
1:51Because if we're just about, like, the mom or the kid, then they wouldn't be
1:55fighting for Kilmore Obrigo Garcia or for some of these child rapists and predators from
2:00deportation. So what is it?
2:03Yeah, it's a couple of things, Lisa.
2:05For the left in general and for big elements of the Democratic Party, migrants are
2:10absolutely a crucial base of their political power.
2:14So what do I mean by that?
2:15Well, there's the obvious one, which is those that are voting.
2:18And one of the things I point out in the book is that the Democrats
2:22really discovered under Bill Clinton in the 1990s that if you could mint a lot
2:27of new citizens, especially if you cast aside criminal background checks, which they've done when
2:32they're in power, cast aside the literacy requirements, cast aside the language requirements, and you
2:38mint new voters, Democrats discover that 80 to 85 % of them vote Democratic.
2:42Now, that evens out over time.
2:45Future generations, the split is more 50 -50.
2:47But the point is, this is a huge voting block for 20 years, basically, for
2:52an entire generation. So they need it for votes, but they also need it for
2:57political power in other ways.
2:59So the way that we calculate the census in the United States is based on
3:03counting people, not counting citizens.
3:06So if you have, you know, 20 % of your population are illegal migrants, that
3:12counts to how many congressional seats you're going to get, how much you're going to
3:16get in the Electoral College.
3:17It also determines how much you're going to get in federal block grants for everything
3:22from welfare to transportation, etc.
3:26So what numbers are we talking about?
3:28Well, if you look at just the illegals in California, California, they account for four
3:33congressional seats. California has four more congressional seats because of illegals in that state.
3:39To put that in relief, that's more than the congressional, the size of the congressional
3:44declaration of 13 states in our country.
3:47So this is a hugely important basis for a political power.
3:51The other thing I would add is, and I quote people extensively saying this in
3:54the book, progressives believe with good evidence that migrants tend to be pretty far left
4:02of center compared to the average American.
4:05There are obviously exceptions to that, but generally speaking, they tend to be left of
4:10center and progressives push them not to assimilate, not to embrace the American dream because
4:16they see them as a transformative power.
4:19So ultimately, I would say this is not about a humanitarian gesture.
4:23It's not caring about the people.
4:25It's about raw political power.
4:27And they realize that if migrants self -deport or if they are deported in large
4:32numbers, it is going to have a catastrophic effect on their hold on political power.
4:37And we're seeing that for, you know, the forecast for the 2030 census and what
4:43apportionment would mean for the Electoral College and for the congressional breakdown as well as
4:48you're laying out too. So basically, in essence, they see these individuals as people they
4:54can control. Yeah, they do.
4:57And what I think is important here is that it's not just these domestic forces
5:03that see migrants as a political weapon.
5:07It's actually foreign elites. So you have foreign elites like the government of Mexico, like
5:13the government of China, like the Muslim Brotherhood, who have their other agendas, but there's
5:19kind of a confluence of interests.
5:21So let me just, if I could, Lisa, read briefly.
5:24I love the best to the people of Mudgrave two quotes from senior Mexican officials
5:26that I think explain how Mexico views mass migration.
5:31The first one is from a December 2024 government report, Mexican government, by a top
5:36aide to Sheinbaum. And she wrote, quote, we already know that the Mexican population in
5:41the United States reaches 39 .9 million.
5:44We Mexicans are reclaiming our territory.
5:47Or this quote from one of the most powerful senators in Mexico.
5:51He sits on the National Defense Committee, which is the most important committee.
5:54He's a member of the Morena Party, which is the ruling party.
5:57He said just a couple of years ago, quote, Mexicans are in our territories, California,
6:03Nevada, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Wyoming.
6:09We're going to take back the territory that was stolen from us.
6:13I could read you dozens of quotes like that.
6:16I have them in the book.
6:17That is how Mexico's elite views mass migration.
6:21And there are things they've steps they've taken to project Mexico's sovereignty into the United
6:27States. So when you get foreign actors like Mexico and China that view immigration through
6:32that lens, and you get domestic elites in the United States like progressives and stalwarts
6:38of the Democratic Party saying this is good for our politics, you get a perfect
6:42storm of mass migration as a political weapon.
6:45And that is what we're dealing with in the country today.
6:49So are our elites, are our leaders in this country aware of our foreign adversaries'
6:56plans of this? Or is it just purely selfish political reasons that they're going along
7:02with it? You know, that's a great question, Lisa.
7:06It's hard to know what people are thinking.
7:09They certainly don't give an indication that they do.
7:11But on the other hand, they don't do anything to stop it.
7:15So, you know, one example would be China with their policy of exploiting birthright citizenship.
7:24This is an issue the Supreme Court's going to be taking up.
7:27And the argument in favor of birthright citizenship is if you happen to be in
7:31the United States, give birth to a child, that child is automatically granted U .S.
7:36citizenship. And our federal government has no idea, zero idea, how many citizens have been
7:43created that way. Because you think about it, when you have a birth certificate for
7:48your child, it doesn't list the nationality of the parents.
7:51It's not in some kind of federal database.
7:53So the question is, how big is the scale?
7:57And the scale for China is incredibly high.
8:02The Chinese government has looked at this.
8:04The Chinese government has encouraged Chinese elites to do this over the last 12 to
8:0913 years. By their estimate, every single year over the last years, 13 years, 100
8:18,000 Chinese have done this every year.
8:21So what they're doing, it's called birth tourism.
8:23They fly into the United States.
8:25They give birth to their child.
8:27They fly back to China.
8:29The child is raised in China in government schools.
8:34Their parents are part of the elite.
8:37So there is this, in a sense, army of 1 million, quote unquote, American citizens
8:42being raised in China right now.
8:45And when they turn 18, they're going to be able to vote.
8:47They're going to be able to donate to political campaigns.
8:49They're going to be able to take government jobs.
8:52And the Obama administration actually perpetuated this problem by simplifying the visa process and telling
8:59Customs and Border Patrol, if a woman comes from China and she's pregnant, don't ask
9:05her any questions about whether she's having a medical procedure here or whether she's giving
9:10birth. So they clearly have done things to streamline the things that our foreign adversaries
9:16are doing, whether they're doing that because they're completely naive and ignorant or whether they're
9:20doing it because they're complicit and they know what the motives are.
9:23I don't know. But either way, it's horrible for the country.
9:28Well, and China, probably more so than maybe any other country, really plans for the
9:35future in a very methodical way.
9:37Would you say that's an accurate statement?
9:39Yeah, 100 percent. You know, they, on this birthright citizenship, it's really ingenious if you
9:45think about it. Beginning in 2011, they started running articles in the People's Daily, which
9:52is the CCP's main newspaper, telling, think about this, telling elites in China, you have
9:59a constitutional right if your child is born in America for your child to have
10:03U .S. citizenship. And so why would a foreign adversarial country push that idea?
10:10I think because they would view it as their, to their political advantage.
10:13And so there's this big industry in China that arranges this for members of the
10:18Chinese elite. And we know just based on their strategic planning and on their sort
10:23of cultural outlook on world affairs, they do tend to think long or at least
10:28medium term. And this is something that they tried to do in Hong Kong in
10:32the early 2000s. The government of Hong Kong shut it down, said no birthright citizenship
10:38for Chinese nationals. So it is a strategy that fits very well with their cultural
10:44approach. In contrast to Mexico's approach, which is less systematic, but has its own ambitions
10:50and its own form of.
10:52weaponization in our country as well.
10:54Got to take a quick commercial break.
10:55More with Peter on the other side.
11:00You know, so I guess we look right now as a country and you look
11:04at the divisions taking place and sort of like the anti -Western mentality.
11:09How much of this do you think is due to the mass immigration we've seen
11:14over the past decades? I think we see a lot of chaos in our streets
11:21because of weaponized immigration. And I think some of the even some of the corruption
11:26stories that are coming out, the Somali corruption, people want to say, well, you know,
11:32they're from Somalia. They're from this, you know, corrupt.
11:34It's one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
11:36This is just sort of a cultural thing.
11:38And certainly that's part of it.
11:40But when you look at what these political networks in the United States are doing,
11:46they're encouraging and perpetuating this destructive behavior.
11:49So, for example, you have imams, Muslim preachers in the United States.
11:54They're here on one religious visas.
11:57They're not they're not Americans, but they're running some of the biggest mosques in America.
12:01And what they actually say, Lisa, is they encourage Muslim believers to engage in fraud
12:08of public assistance because they say it's it's a tax on non -Muslims, a tax
12:14that non -Muslims should be paying to Muslims.
12:17So they actually give sort of religious backing.
12:20I'm not saying that that all imams preach this.
12:23They certainly don't. But there is a sizable number that do.
12:26So this is organized and intentional as a weapon to be used.
12:30You look at the Los Angeles riots that we had last year, what's going on
12:34in Minneapolis now, as I highlight in the book, you have foreign government officials from
12:39Mexico who live inside the United States who are actively fanning the flames for violent
12:46protests and in some cases organizing them.
12:48You've got a guy named Alejandro Robles, who I talk about in the book.
12:53He lives in Ontario, California, outside of LA.
12:56But he also sits in the Mexican Congress, their chamber of deputies.
13:01In 2025, he was bragging to his colleagues in Mexico that he was, you know,
13:06visiting in going across the United States and meeting with radicals to, quote, organize the
13:13militancy inside the United States.
13:16That was those were his exact words.
13:19He met with Antifa related groups about forming common cause.
13:24When the riots broke out in Los Angeles, you had other Mexican officials who were
13:28cheering it on and said, we're we're part of the permanent resistance to Trump.
13:33So this is organized. This is intentional.
13:36This is not just random stuff that unfortunately happens.
13:40It is intentional and it is weaponized immigration.
13:43And we need to start realizing it's great to have a national debate about how
13:48immigration affects our economy and affects, you know, a crime on our streets.
13:52But we've got to realize people that have come here have brought these political networks
13:57with them, these radical political networks that want to undermine our country.
14:01And that is effectively what they're trying to do right now.
14:04Well, and we also saw this with, as you pointed out, the Minnesota fraud and
14:08money going overseas to terrorist groups, or at least that's been the allegation and some
14:13reporting that's been done on that, which it's like, what are we letting people who
14:17have those ties into the country?
14:19Yes. And I would note, by the way, Lisa, also in Minneapolis, Mexico has a
14:25network in the United States of 53 consulates, which just to put that into perspective,
14:31the United Kingdom and China have six and seven consulates.
14:34Mexico has 53. One of those is in St.
14:37Paul, Minnesota. And they have worked with groups like CLUZ and MIRAC that are at
14:43ground zero for a lot of these anti -ice protests.
14:48And we've seen that with other consular officials elsewhere.
14:51So there is a pattern of behavior here.
14:54And I think we need to look at shutting down consulates.
14:57We need to look at expelling Mexican diplomats that are engaging in this kind of
15:01behavior. Some of them are also getting involved in our domestic elections inside of the
15:06United States, which diplomats are certainly not supposed to be doing.
15:09But we need to focus on this and realize this is not sort of a
15:14series of random events. This is organized and being encouraged by foreign powers.
15:19What role do NGOs play in all of this?
15:22A very, very important component to this.
15:26Some of the NGOs are domestic groups that are funded by people like Bill Gates
15:31and George Soros. And these NGOs will say explicitly that their purpose for supporting migration
15:39in the United States is that it has a, quote, transformative effect on our country.
15:45In other words, they want migrants to come here to change the country because they
15:51view the country as fundamentally flawed.
15:53So they play an important role there.
15:56The other institutions I would look at is some of the religious groups, Catholic charities
16:01and also Lutheran charities, and particularly the Catholic Church under the previous pope, Pope Francis,
16:07where they've wholly embraced the message of open borders to the extent that it was
16:13an element of liberation theology, this strain of theology.
16:20that the gospel is really achieved through Marxism -Leninism, not through a personal relationship with
16:26God. And that, of course, has played an important and powerful role here.
16:30So there are lots of adversarial institutions, foreign powers, also NGOs that see mass migration
16:40ultimately not through the lens of helping individual people.
16:44They say it through the lens of a transformative political movement that can reorient the
16:50United States in the direction they want it to go.
16:53Not that we're supposed to have any say in it, but of course, we did
16:56have a say in that in the 2024 election.
16:58And that's why I think you're seeing so much resistance in the streets, because this
17:03fundamentally goes to this core of progressive power in the United States.
17:09So how much of it is about money for even these Catholic NGOs?
17:13Because they get a lot of money out of this as well, right?
17:17They do. Yeah, Lisa, there's no question there is a motivation there.
17:20Catholic charities saw there, you know, when Joe Biden opened the borders, you saw Catholic
17:26charities' federal grant money increased by tenfold, ten times as a result.
17:31So money is certainly a factor here.
17:34But I think it's more than that, because they tell us it's more than that.
17:37And yes, they do say it's because they care about people.
17:40And OK, we can take them at face value, I guess, on that.
17:43But they also tell us this has a political component.
17:47The sanctuary movement, you know, we've got sanctuary cities and sanctuary states.
17:52We've even got sanctuary labor unions.
17:55If you look at the history of the sanctuary movement in the United States beginning
17:58in the 1980s, the founders of that movement were very, very explicit.
18:04They saw the sanctuary movement as a means by which you could institute radical change
18:10in the country. And they even said when refugees are coming from Latin America, they
18:15particularly were focused on helping those that were part of radical Marxist movements.
18:21So if you came into the United States illegally and you said, I work with
18:24the FMLN, which is the Marxist movement in El Salvador, they would take you in
18:29and give you exactly what you want.
18:31If you came in and said, well, I was a secretary working for the Salvadoran
18:35government, they wouldn't help you.
18:37This is what the leaders of that movement would tell you.
18:39And that approach still continues to exist.
18:43So the goal here is not humanitarian.
18:46Ultimately, it's revolutionary. And that's what they tell us.
18:49And I think that's what we have to not be naive about.
18:53You know, and what role does this all have in our education system?
18:57Because, you know, obviously, we are importing people who hate our country and want to
19:01transform it. We've even given refugee status to people like Ilhan Omar, who speaks ill
19:07of America and, you know, basically hates being here and hates it, but yet, you
19:10know, won't leave back to her home country.
19:13But, you know, but then these people become educators or, you know, and then they
19:16taint, you know, American -born kids as well.
19:20So I guess, you know, talk about sort of, you know, the poisoning of the
19:24well that happens with all of this.
19:27Yeah, at least it really starts in our elementary schools.
19:31And think about this for a minute.
19:32So you have, you know, tens of millions of people in the United States illegally
19:36that came across the border.
19:37Many of them bring children.
19:39Those children are enrolled in public schools from Los Angeles to Orlando.
19:44They don't speak or read English.
19:46So the Mexican consulate, out of the kindness of their heart, I'm saying this with
19:51irony, donates every year more than a million Mexican textbooks to school districts in the
19:57United States to educate these migrant children, to give them their textbooks.
20:01The problem is when you look at these textbooks, they're even far worse than some
20:06of the worst American textbooks.
20:08They view the United States as an enemy power, as an occupying power.
20:13They have a totally different view of the U .S.-Mexican war in the 19th century.
20:17They have a totally different view of race relations in the United States.
20:21Not positive, I would say.
20:23So it begins with this kind of notion that we're allowing Mexico to educate millions
20:29of kids inside the United States.
20:31And by the way, the people that run this program in Mexico describe it as
20:35an effort to create, quote, greater Mexico.
20:39In other words, we're going to be extending our ideas and our sovereignty into the
20:43United States. So it begins at the earliest level.
20:47But you have the added problem that you've talked about, that there are a lot
20:50of students that come here, particularly groups like the Muslim Students Association, which were related
20:56to the Muslim Brotherhood, which is linked to terrorist activity.
21:00These groups are on our college campuses, and their goal here is not to assimilate.
21:05In fact, if you do assimilate, they will attack you.
21:08They will go after you.
21:10If I could, just let me read two quotes, because again, it's important to know
21:14this is not just me saying this.
21:16Two quotes from officials with care, which is the Council for American Islamic Relations, one
21:22of the biggest Islamic groups in the country.
21:25The first one is from the Florida director in 2025.
21:29He says, quote, how do we even justify living here?
21:32I mean, why are we living here?
21:34Have we asked ourselves this question?
21:36Why are we living in the United States?
21:38The only answer I believe is excusable and justifiable is if we are living here
21:44to shift this country's political direction direction and social mindset.
21:47spiritual direction together. Or this other one from a member of the Board of Directors
21:52of Care, he says, quote, ultimately, we can never be full citizens of this country
21:57because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions of this
22:01country. We can be citizens in the sense that we try to influence American policy.
22:07So they do not want assimilation.
22:10They do not want people to embrace the American dream.
22:13Their message and their push is for people in the United States that come here
22:18as migrants, as immigrants, is to operate as a resistance to assimilation and forward their
22:27revolutionary goals inside the United States.
22:29It's a huge, huge problem and against evidence of the what I call the weaponization
22:34of immigration. Quick, Briggs, stay with us.
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22:39your family and friends. I mean, obviously, you know, we closed the borders as President
22:48Trump has worked towards and has done so successfully.
22:52But what do we do about it?
22:54I mean, we've got a lot of these people in the country who hate America,
22:57who don't want to assimilate, as you pointed out.
23:00I guess, what's the path forward?
23:02How do we save the country?
23:04Well, I think sealing the border was key.
23:06But again, it does nothing to deal with the political networks operating in our country.
23:11I think those need to be dismantled and they need to be undermined.
23:15So with Mexico, that means closing a lot of consulates, kicking a lot of these
23:19diplomats out of the country.
23:21I also don't quite understand where we're allowing Mexico to have all these elected officials
23:26living in the United States, basically encroaching on our sovereignty and treating Mexicans in the
23:33United States as an extension of the Mexican government.
23:35So that, I think, would be the first start.
23:38The other thing we need to do is look at how China is exploiting our
23:41immigration system, the birthright citizenship case.
23:44People need to understand, and I think this is going to be argued before the
23:47Supreme Court based on the evidence in the book, that birthright citizenship is not just
23:53sort of a random thing that happens.
23:55There is an industrial scale model that China is embracing.
23:59And the notion that you can literally fly into the United States, give birth to
24:04a child, and then when the child is ready to get on an airplane, just
24:08fly back to China, raise them in China for 18 years, and they are still
24:13U .S. citizens. I don't think anybody would envision that that is related to the
24:1814th Amendment. So we need to deal with that issue.
24:21There are a series of other things that I've highlighted in the book.
24:24Right now, we are training in the United States thousands of Chinese pilots that are
24:30going to be flying for the Chinese Air Force, squaring off against us.
24:33They're at flight schools. Remember, we had this problem before 9 -11.
24:37The 9 -11 terrorists were in U .S.
24:39flight schools. We banned people from terrorist -sponsoring countries from going to our flight schools.
24:44We need to ban Chinese nationals from our flight schools.
24:47Why should our pilots be squaring off against a future conflict with a Chinese pilot
24:54that was trained in the United States?
24:55There are some very specific things that we can do to deal with these issues,
25:00but we have to focus on it.
25:02We have to recognize the issue for what it is.
25:04It's not just immigration. It's weaponized immigration, and we have to take bold action.
25:09And I'm confident we're going to see some movement on that, at least in some
25:12of these areas. The key thing is awareness and changing our mindset on these issues.
25:18Do you think the Trump administration is aware of all this?
25:22So, I've had meetings with senior Trump officials at the Cabinet level.
25:26I've also had meetings on Capitol Hill with several U .S.
25:29senators. There are going to be hearings on Capitol Hill, and I expect we're going
25:33to see some movements from the Trump administration on some of these areas.
25:37So, I'm optimistic. But, you know, look, part of it is maintaining focus and attention
25:42on these issues. There's so much stuff that's happening in the world right now that
25:46these leaders are dealing with.
25:48So, they need to know that this is a priority for the American people, and
25:51we need to keep at the center of their mind the national security implications of
25:56this. The immediacy of other issues, Venezuela, et cetera, I recognize that it's there.
26:02But in terms of scale and threat, I would argue these issues are a much
26:07larger fundamental threat down the road than these issues that are popping up right now.
26:12And then before we go, is there anything else you want to get in about
26:15the book? Well, I think, you know, what I try to do with all my
26:19books, Lisa, is let the information speak for itself.
26:23So, what you're going to see in this book is Mexican officials, Chinese officials, Muslim
26:29Brotherhood leaders talking about how they view immigration as a weapon.
26:34So, this is not theorizing.
26:35And I tell people also, a lot of the feedback I've gotten from the book,
26:39it's been tremendous. It's been the number one book of all books sold on Amazon
26:44for the last nine days.
26:46So, the response has been overwhelming.
26:48But sometimes people get so discouraged.
26:50They say, oh, man, the problems are so big.
26:52You cannot get immobilized. The beginning of dealing with these problems is recognizing what they
26:58are. So, please read the book.
27:00If you read the book, don't get angry, frustrated, and discouraged.
27:04Let it spur you to action, letting your elected officials know that you care about
27:09these issues and making them aware of it.
27:11That's, I think, really the key.
27:13It's a great message. Peter Schweizer.
27:15Always a wealth of information.
27:16The Invisible Coup, how American elites and foreign powers use immigration as a weapon.
27:21And it's out now. Peter, congrats already on the success of the book, as you
27:25pointed out. Always love having you on.
27:27Would love to have you back on soon.
27:28And congrats on the success of the book.
27:31Yeah, always looking forward to talking to you, Lisa.
27:33Thanks so much for having me.
27:34Thanks, Peter. Have a great day.
27:35That was Peter Schweizer. Appreciate him for taking the time to come on the show
27:39and talk about his new book, The Invisible Coup.
27:41So appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can
27:44listen throughout the week. I also want to thank my producer, John Cascio, for putting
27:47the show together. Until next time.