Top Trump Official Falls Apart Under Cross-Exam on War!!
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2:29One of Donald Trump's top State Department officials got grilled under cross -examination before the
2:38House of Representatives and the United States Senate while he was testifying under oath about
2:44the disastrous war in Iran.
2:46The individual testifying is named Thomas DiNano and he holds the title Undersecretary of State
2:55for Arms Control and International Security.
3:00He's the guy who deals with our international arms trade deals, whether that's with Israel
3:06or whether that's with other nations in the Middle East or with NATO or wherever.
3:12And he's also the individual who's supposed to deal with nuclear arms control treaties, New
3:19START, which expired last February.
3:22And this guy got grilled under cross -examination.
3:26He did not handle it well when he was asked some pretty basic questions under
3:31oath. For example, first, in the House of Representatives, Congress Member Castro cross -examined this
3:40guy DiNano about whether or not Israel has been hiding nuclear weapons.
3:49As Congress Member Castro says, we are four weeks into war where both sides have
3:54targeted each other's nuclear facilities.
3:56We risked nuclear disaster, yet the main Trump official on arms control refused to answer
4:03my question on Israel's nuclear capabilities and told me to go and ask the Israeli
4:10government. Watch this great cross -examination by Democratic Congress Member Castro.
4:16Let's play it. What is Israel's nuclear capability in terms of weapons?
4:20I can't comment on that specific question.
4:24I'd have to refer you to the Israelis on that.
4:26Does Israel have nuclear weapons?
4:29I'm not prepared to comment on that.
4:35You're not prepared to comment on it?
4:37It's a very basic question.
4:39We are with an ally conducting a war against Iran.
4:44This war continues to escalate.
4:46Tell us something. As Congress, as the oversight body, what is Israel's nuclear capability in
4:53terms of weapons? I can't comment on that specific question.
4:57I'd have to refer you to the Israelis on that.
5:04Does that mean you don't know?
5:06I can't comment on that, sir.
5:09You're the main person in charge.
5:11I can't comment on that.
5:11We don't know. language. of knowing this and understanding it will you not give us
5:16an answer i don't understand why this issue is so taboo when it's a basic
5:20question and we're in a war alongside israel against iran we're dealing with the potential
5:29for nuclear fallout and you won't answer this basic question well again it would be
5:36outside of my purview uh as the arms control and arm proliferation under secretary um
5:41to discuss that specific question sir that is a dereliction of duty next i want
5:47to show you the cross -examination by democratic congress member keating and he grills de
5:55nano about the trump regime's support of putin whether or not they view putin as
6:02a war criminal hint hint de nano basically refuses to answer the question and he's
6:09like all over the place with his answer and this congress member's like why would
6:15you be cutting support for like ukraine right now and bolstering support for russia like
6:22what are you doing right now i want you to watch as de nano who
6:27exposes himself yet again and this whole trump regime as putin puppets right here watch
6:33him get crushed under cross -examination let's play this clip you're also cutting uh the
6:40support we have for the general prosecutor in ukraine that's prosecuting war crimes is vladimir
6:46putin a war criminal sir uh sir i'm again that's that's well outside of my
6:50purview as the t undersecretary no no how about as an american uh no as
6:55an american person and a citizen yes sir and someone cares is vladimir is vladimir
7:02putin a war criminal i understand that i'm both no yes or no no sir
7:05i'm not going to answer yes or no i'm gonna no sir i'm not going
7:08to answer yes or no that's quite an answer yes that's yes oh yes no
7:11it's yes or no or yes you can't even ask a simple question like that
7:14we have to know because we have the question under your agency sir we're cutting
7:19the support for the prosecutor general and you know what that support has been doing
7:24it's been preserving evidence and training so these war crimes including sexual assault of young
7:30girls in front of their parents and grandparents by russian soldiers which which is tens
7:35of thousands of young people being taken from their families maybe never to come back
7:40in and put in russian film definite war crimes we are supporting that and you're
7:45cutting that support in the guise of reorganizing for the prosecutor to preserve the evidence
7:52and to move forward on these war crimes these horrific heinous war crimes that russia
7:58is committing so what i want to ask you sir this is under your purview
8:02no you should be doing more oh sir it's not yes it is by the
8:06way not you do not understand what prosecutor general's office is by the way i
8:11know everything's new to you no no it's not actually new to me right uh
8:15that uh you have funds to help train and move forward with the prosecution and
8:20help the uh prosecutor general and ukraine if if there is a specific program that
8:26uh you feel or that you know that funded a legal advisor in the office
8:31uh i don't know about any specific then then you should know about it with
8:35all due respect i've got eight seconds do your homework come back here let's deal
8:39with this i yield back shifting gears for a moment from the house of representatives
8:44to the united states senate let me show you democratic senator van holland's cross -examination
8:51of undersecretary of state de nano watch de nano squirm as aaron ruper puts it
8:59in response to a series of questions about his involvement in the transfer of u
9:05.s bombs to the netanyahu government let's play this clip the uh administration's uh emergency
9:13um uh declaration um if there's ever a circumstance that's an emergency um this would
9:22be it mr denaro let me just not responsive no sir asked you whether it
9:26was i'd like to i asked whether you i'll finish my answer that policy if
9:30you let me finish i'm happy to answer your question sir um that being said
9:36uh uh i sat before the committee uh during my confirmation process and committed to
9:43working with the committee to follow the law um the the law does allow for
9:48the emergency exemption that's why we used it i'm not asking you about i understand
9:52that but i think the context is important sir i know because i submitted a
9:56question for the record and you said you would comply with cat policy so now
9:59i'm asking you whether you were involved in reviewing the transfer of 20 000 bombs
10:03to the netanyahu government with respect to compliance with the cat policy um uh any
10:11uh foreign military sale uh that we do um would fall underneath the conventional arms
10:18transfer did you personally review that assessment uh uh again senator the the the emergency
10:27declaration no not the emergency declaration did you review the assessment regarding whether or not
10:33that transfer of 20 000 bombs complied with the cat policy uh everything that we
10:39you you you you you you you do, complies with the law.
10:41Did you personally, or were you personally involved in that review?
10:45I was involved with the transfer, and anything that we would do would be consistent
10:54with our CAT policy, which is compliant with the law.
10:57So I'm going to take it as a no that you did not personally review
11:00whether or not that transfer complied with CAT policy.
11:03I just, did you personally review that?
11:05You can take it any way you want.
11:07Well, did you? I've already told you I was involved with the policy.
11:11I oversee the political military bureau.
11:13Okay. Did you personally review?
11:16I review hundreds of arms sales.
11:19I signed hundreds of them.
11:21The emergency declaration, again, it was consistent with the law.
11:24And most importantly, I think it's important for the committee that we lay out.
11:28We're not trying to establish a new norm that will continue to address on a
11:34case by case basis, look at emergencies if they exist, just like the Biden administration
11:38did in 2023. I'll finish the same.
11:41Use the same authority about.
11:42I'm not, sir. Let me finish my comment.
11:44I think it's important. I'm not asking you about.
11:45I know, but I mean, I'm trying to address your concern.
11:48No, you're actually. Yes, sir.
11:49I am. Were you, are you concerned that Israeli defense minister Katz said with respect
11:55to Lebanon that they were going to use the quote Rafa model in Gaza?
11:59Does that concern you? I have not.
12:01I'm not familiar with that comment.
12:03Right. It's a matter of public record.
12:05Could you take a look at it and get back?
12:06I would happily look at it.
12:07Let me know if that concerns you.
12:08Yes, sir. I'm happy. Now, this was a particularly shocking, dystopian, scary moment during the
12:15Senate hearing where they were grilling DiNano.
12:18You have Democratic Senator Rosen cross -examining DiNano on Donald Trump's desire to start back
12:28up nuclear testing in the United States.
12:31These big nuclear craters, whether it's in Nevada or New Mexico or Idaho or throughout
12:39the country that Trump wants to drop bombs or do underground nuclear testing in the
12:46United States. How utterly deranged.
12:49But I want you to watch because this guy DiNano doesn't deny that we're going
12:55to be doing nuclear tests in the United States.
12:58Think about the environmental impact on that.
13:02Think about all of the efforts that we've been through as a country to try
13:06to stop that. Here, play this clip.
13:08Thank you, Chairman Risch, ranking member Shaheen for today's hearing.
13:11And thank you, Mr. DiNano, for joining us today.
13:14I want to go and talk about Nevada a little bit.
13:19Because the Nevada National Security Site, the NNSS, was ground zero for the vast majority
13:25of the United States' explosive nuclear testing from 1951 to 1992, during which there were
13:32100 atmospheric tests and 828 underground tests conducted.
13:38Many Nevadans and downwind communities suffered from these exposures.
13:42They're still waiting for justice and compensation.
13:46Today, the NNSS plays a critical role in certifying the reliability, safety, and effectiveness of
13:52our nuclear stockpile, but without, without, I'm going to emphasize that, I could say it
13:57100 times, without the need for explosive testing.
14:01So you can imagine my surprise when President Trump and others, such as Assistant Secretary
14:06Yaw, suggested that the U .S.
14:08should resume explosive nuclear testing.
14:11So, Mr. DiNano, what is the State Department's position on explosive nuclear testing?
14:17And if President Trump were to order a nuclear test, how do you expect Russia
14:21or China to respond? What about other countries with nuclear weapons?
14:24And how would we manage the inevitable damage that this is going to cause to
14:31your efforts to pursue multilateral arms control and risk reduction measures?
14:40Sorry. Thank you, Senator. Let me start by saying the President has laid out a
14:50view that that I elaborated on and Assistant Secretary Yaw elaborated upon where the President
14:59instructed the War Department and the Energy Department to test on an equal basis to
15:06that with our adversaries. The backdrop of that is important to understand that both the
15:13Russians and the Chinese are testing at that yield.
15:19And I can tell you that in our U1A tunnel and the radiographic things that
15:24we have there and the new kinds of technology we have, we have adequately, without
15:31explosive testing, ensured the capabilities of our nuclear stockpile.
15:37So, thank you, Senator. Look, a couple of points to make.
15:42Number one, we're still assessing.
15:46We've made no decision specifically on how or what that any testing program would look
15:52like. So, that's pretty decisional.
15:55If the administration comes to that decision, I'm sure we'd happy to come back and
15:59talk to you. You better come back and talk to me because the people of
16:02Nevada and the people of Utah and the people all around you think what happens
16:06in Nevada with an experience.
16:07Explosive test stays in Nevada?
16:09Yes, ma 'am. Because it sure doesn't.
16:13I think you're referring to any potential atmospheric testing.
16:18I'm just saying, they cratered the ground in Nevada.
16:21And let me tell you, there's groundwater.
16:23It doesn't go away. Let me answer your concern, if I could.
16:28I have not been in any discussions where open atmospheric testing has been under consideration.
16:39The testing, any testing, is under consideration.
16:44Again, it is currently pre -decisional.
16:46But the president has laid out, and I think it's important to understand, that the
16:50United States is at - It's important to understand that he better come talk to
16:53us in Nevada if he's planning to do that.
16:56Yes, ma 'am. Because the people of Nevada have a stake in that.
16:58The people of Utah have a stake in that.
17:00And I will look, everybody, Idaho, right above us, Texas, the wind, everything goes around
17:07this country. Trust me. I understand that, ma 'am.
17:10And I appreciate your concern.
17:11I'll move on to something else.
17:12Hold on. I want to address that.
17:14I think it's important. You're talking about the wind, that there is no discussion that
17:19I've been a part of that any atmospheric testing would take place.
17:25Again, the Chinese and Russian programs are underground.
17:29They are at yields that I can't talk too much about in this open hearing.
17:37But, for example, the Chinese underground testing program would be in the hundreds of tons.
17:46No discussions, again, I've been part of, would in any way talk about winds or
17:53downrange. That is, I've heard nothing to that effect.
17:58And - Well, you would understand my - Of course I would.
18:02My concern - Yes, ma 'am.
18:03About the need for a visual - Of course.
18:05Besides a ground cratering in.
18:07And we have made millions of billions of dollars of investments in radiographic and other
18:12technology using math, using physics, using science, to be sure that we ensure the integrity
18:18of our nuclear arsenal. We have been very specific in that, and we can -
18:22I'm glad to take you down there if you haven't been to see what they're
18:25doing and how they're doing it before you enter into more of these discussions.
18:30I'd happily go there. I know what they do there.
18:34And again, I think it's extremely important to understand that the Russian and Chinese systems,
18:40the Russians and Chinese are testing at yield.
18:42That creates an intolerable disadvantage for the United States by not testing.
18:49And again, I've heard no discussion of any sort of atmospheric testing whatsoever.
18:54Well, I tend to disagree with you, but I yield.
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20:15One thing hovering over this hearing that I think is important, and I've reported on
20:21it here, it's not getting enough attention, is the expiration of what was called New
20:26START, the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, which was a bilateral nuclear arms control agreement
20:34between the United States and Russia, signed in 2010 under, guess who, former President Obama.
20:41It entered full force in effect in 2011, which limited each side to 1 ,550
20:49deployed strategic nuclear warheads, 700 deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles, ICBMs, submarine -launched ballistic missiles, and
20:58heavy bombers, along with verification methods like data exchange and on -site expansion, inspections, rather.
21:06So the treaty had a built -in 10 -year duration with one possible five -year
21:12extension. The five -year extension was invoked, but this last February, February 5th, 2026, it
21:18just expired, and Donald Trump professed that he would be engaging in more nuclear testing
21:25here, and that we would resume a nuclear arms race.
21:28So that's what's been hovering in the background, and this guy, DeNano, is the guy
21:33implementing Donald Trump. Trump's policy.
21:36So next person I'll show you is Senator Shaheen.
21:40And Senator Shaheen cross -examines De Nanno on, are we actually getting our European allies
21:49the weapons that we're promising them?
21:51Like, are they actually receiving the weapons?
21:54And you'll see De Nanno does not answer the question.
21:57He's like, well, this is why we're so nimble under the Trump department.
22:02The State Department in record time is able to have, it's like, dude, just answer
22:07the question. Are our European allies, who I don't even know if they are allies
22:11anymore. I don't think they are.
22:13After all of the crap Donald Trump put them through, I don't know how they,
22:17they don't see the United States as a friend.
22:19They see the United States as a bigger threat than China or Russia.
22:23Many European countries do. It's one of the reasons we here at the Midas Touch
22:27Network are trying to build the international pro -democracy community.
22:31I think it's one of the most important things that we can be doing.
22:34But in Europe, they're out there continuously basically saying, you know, we're not getting the
22:40weapons that we were promised at all.
22:42Like, we're just not getting them.
22:44So here's what Senator Shaheen said.
22:46Play this clip. We really pushed our European allies to step up on their own
22:53defense and on Ukraine. And they have right now, they spend more than we do
22:57supporting Ukraine. And they're spending that money on American weapons.
23:02Are we, are we in a position where we can actually deliver the weapons that
23:07they're buying from us? Thanks for the question, Senator.
23:11I think it's an important one.
23:14And I think really shows why the reorganization of the State Department and putting all
23:18of the bureaus that do international security together makes sense.
23:23Because I think in relation to our political military bureau and the work that we're
23:29doing to modernize our defense industrial base, we have released two executive orders.
23:36We work very closely with the War Department.
23:39As part of the most recent executive order had announced that it wanted an executive
23:45council to stand up between the Commerce Department, the State Department and War Department.
23:51And that council, that meeting took place within a month.
23:54That's unheard of bureaucratic speed.
23:58I can tell you. So the - That doesn't make me feel better.
24:02Not a very high bar.
24:04No. The commitment to modernizing our defense industrial base couldn't be stronger.
24:13I heard it loud and clear during my confirmation process.
24:16The State Department role here is to make sure that our regulatory approach doesn't constrain
24:22our allies and partners. That the demand signal from every part of the government from
24:28this committee for my leadership was to move faster and to provide more capability.
24:35I think our recent America First arms transfer strategy is a really good iteration on
24:43that. That for our partners and allies around the world, it might not always require
24:48our most exquisite platform. It might not require an F -35, might not require our
24:55Patriot system. But there are other systems that are certainly good enough that complement existing
25:01U .S. posture in the region and that can send a demand signal to the
25:06industry to stand up other capabilities.
25:10So again, the State Department piece of this is to open up the aperture, take
25:15on a little more risk and move faster.
25:18That really is dwarfed by the reforms they're making in the War Department.
25:22And Under Secretary Duffy and his team are making drastic reforms.
25:28We work very closely with them.
25:30I'm on a call with them weekly, driving change, driving integration.
25:35So it is a priority for us.
25:38And again, I think it's not going to happen overnight.
25:42And it's not going to be easy or painless.
25:44I think we need to work together, the administration in the Congress to under to
25:48there may be some legislative relief we may need along the way here, but is
25:53absolute national security imperative, not only for the security of the United States, but as
25:58well as our partners and allies.
26:00And I think this is what you're seeing play out.
26:02And here you have, I think it's Republican Senator McCormick.
26:05McCormick, he grills DeNano on the Russian space weapons that are out there and what
26:13we're doing to combat it.
26:14Let's play this clip. According to, also according to the Director of National Intelligence, 2026
26:19Annual Threat Assessment, Russia is developing anti -satellite nuclear weapons, which the intelligence community describes
26:27as the single greatest single threat to the world's space architecture.
26:33So Under Secretary, how should the United States respond to the expanding threat of outer
26:37space weapons, challenges by peer and near peer adversaries, and which arms control approaches along
26:44with risk reduction measures offer the most promise given the expiration of the new START
26:49treaty? Thanks for the question, Senator.
26:52Again, very important question, specifically to the Russian outer space system.
26:59I don't want to come into too much detail here in an open forum.
27:02But what I can say is that any deployment of that system would be a
27:07violation of the Outer Space Treaty.
27:08So sort of, you know, directly focused on sort of the arms control piece of
27:13it. The Russian exotic systems are getting crazy, even for the Russians.
27:20So I think this, the president's approach, again, in the ranking member's earlier question about
27:28other bilateral as well as, you know, other multilateral ways to get at the problem,
27:33the answer is yes. That's not, that's obviously a system that diplomatically we would pressure,
27:38aggressively pressure the Russians. And I'm sure it'll come up in our P5 engagement, which
27:45is imminent. So, again, I don't want to talk too much more about the Russian
27:50capability and open forum. But certainly the exotic systems, the underwater system, the Poseidon, the
27:57Bervesnik, which is their nuclear powered cruise missile.
28:00These are all systems that fall outside of New START, to your point, that we
28:08need to have a direct conversation with the Russians.
28:12And I'm sure we will.
28:13And finally, back in the House of Representatives, this was Congress Member Meek's cross -examination.
28:18We'll play it for you right here.
28:19It is a truly amazing fact that the advances made in the science of nuclear
28:25weapons over the last 25 years allow the NNSA labs to now know and understand
28:32more about the function and performance of nuclear weapons than they did in the days
28:37of testing. So, the NNSA complex is old.
28:40Much of it dates back to the Manhattan Project and the early days of the
28:45Cold War, and it needs to be replaced or refurbished.
28:48Fourth, we should never forget that ultimately it is people who sustain our deterrent.
28:54Military and civilians at DOD and NNSA work to maintain the continuum of deterrents, beginning
29:00with threat prevention and nonproliferation.
29:03They need support, and we need to ensure that the entire nuclear enterprise always has
29:09the best and the brightest.
29:11And fifth, our allies and partners also rely on the U .S.
29:17nuclear deterrent as the ultimate guarantor of their security against nuclear attack.
29:21However remote the possibility, as much as they want the U .S.
29:27deterrent to be safe, secure, and reliable, they do not want a new arms race
29:33and a return to the days of mutual assured destruction.
29:37As of September 2017, the U .S.
29:41has 3 ,822 warheads in its stockpile, more than enough, with another 2 ,000 -plus
29:47warheads awaiting dismantlement. This is down from the mid -60s peak of 31 ,255 warheads.
30:03In conclusion, in my prepared testimony, I referenced a 2010 op -ed by former National
30:11Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft and Jake Garn, a former Republican senator from Utah, supporting New
30:17START. In that piece, they cautioned against seeking a silver bullet that solves all problems.
30:25New START was under consideration at the time that they wrote the op -ed and
30:29was being criticized for not covering the full range of nuclear weapons and delivery systems.
30:35In many respects, that is what the Trump administration is doing again, with respect to
30:41extending New START, criticizing it for what it isn't and was never intended to be,
30:47a silver bullet treaty. The treaty should be extended and time provided to take the
30:52next step towards stability. Thank you for holding this hearing on a very important topic
30:56that isn't discussed enough, and I look forward to your questions.
30:59Thank you, Ms. Creed, and Mr.
31:01McEwen. Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member Kisnicker, thank you for the opportunity to be here today
31:06to discuss the importance of arms control agreements with Russia.
31:10I agree with much of what was said, if not all of it, by my
31:13two colleagues. I'll try very hard not to duplicate what they said.
31:17I will focus primarily on New START.
31:20An extension of New START, which we've discussed already, would bring significant benefits to American
31:25security. For the same reasons the treaty was a good idea in the first place,
31:29the transparency and predictability that it provides.
31:32New START contains an inspection and verification regime that includes regular exchanges of data, regular
31:38notifications, including advanced notification of launches, and intrusive on -site inspections of the military bases
31:44on the territory of the other party where nuclear forces are based.
31:48General Highton, commander of U .S.
31:50Strategic Command, testified last winter that the insight provided by the verification measures are unbelievably
31:57important, quote -unquote, to his understanding of Russian force posture.
32:01Without a treaty, our confidence levels about the size, location, and nature of Russian forces
32:06would decrease, and the intelligence resources required to monitor such forces would increase, but they
32:12would not yield information equivalent to that which can be obtained through the on -site
32:16inspections. The treaty limits the number of strategic launchers and warheads that each party may
32:22deploy, as well as a combined limit on deployed and non -deployed launchers.
32:27This structure provides several advantages.
32:29This structure provides several advantages.
32:30to the Department of Defense and Department of Energy.
32:32First, the commander of strategic command can devise the war plans, secure in the knowledge
32:37about the size and location of Russian nuclear forces.
32:40Without the treaty, he would be required to engage in worst -case planning assumptions, which
32:45eventually could result in decisions to increase the size of deployed forces.
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