Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Feb 24 2026
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0:33T's and C's apply. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
0:40State of the Union tonight.
0:43We have got a lot of stories to discuss surrounding the State of the Union.
0:49Our friend Bill O 'Reilly will join us at the top of hour two to
0:53break that down. We are also scheduled to be joined by Small Business Administration Head
0:59Kelly Woffler from Jimmy's Famous Seafood, which may well become many of your favorite seafood
1:06restaurants in America based on the way that they have responded to crazy left -wingers.
1:10Buck, I heard your open yesterday, and it brought a great deal of pride to
1:16my American soul. Last night, yesterday, I was working with advertisers.
1:22We got a lot of positive things going on with the program, and I flew
1:28into South Florida to meet with them, and I ended up at 11 nightclub because
1:34they had a table there, and the U .S.
1:37men's Olympic team came in to celebrate their gold medal, the hockey team.
1:43And I'm not sure, Buck, I have ever been more optimistic about America.
1:49First of all, everybody there is under the age of 30.
1:51If you haven't seen the viral videos that came out of that party last night,
1:58the U .S. men's hockey team showed up and began their night in the nightclub
2:04by singing the national anthem.
2:07The entire nightclub sang the national anthem.
2:10They sang Lee Greenwood. They sang so many incredibly patriotic songs.
2:18They are all going viral, and I just loved everything about it.
2:25Now, these guys are reportedly going to be at the State of the Union tonight,
2:30Buck, and I would suggest to you that I don't think they can go full
2:34Joe Biden and break out the huge oversized aviator glasses.
2:40I am certain that there are going to be a lot of hungover American hockey
2:46heroes at the State of the Union, but this is now the lead story everywhere
2:51because left -wingers are angry about Kash Patel being in the locker room.
2:56They are angry about the U .S.
2:58men going to the State of the Union address.
3:01They are angry that President Trump made what I thought was a pretty funny kind
3:05of joke in his celebration with the U .S.
3:08men's hockey team, and this is now leading the news on CNN.
3:12It is leading the news on MSNBC, and to me it is just part and
3:19parcel of a big story here, which is Democrats can't be normal, and I got
3:24a history lesson for you, Buck, that I think you'll appreciate.
3:28I believe before you were born, I was 10 months old.
3:32Back in 1980, 46 years ago, we won the gold medal by beating the Soviet
3:38Union in one of the greatest Olympic upsets of all time.
3:40Do you know what happened in the immediate aftermath of that victory?
3:44Walter Mondale, Vice President of the United States, went into the U .S.
3:49men's locker room to celebrate with them, and he had Jimmy Carter, then President of
3:56the United States, call to congratulate the U .S.
3:59men on their gold medal win over the Soviet Union.
4:03Everyone in America thought that was great.
4:06If you are out there listening to us right now, the fact that Jimmy Carter
4:10was a Democrat and Walter Mondale was a Democrat and they were in the locker
4:13room was in no way a triggering moment for you.
4:16The fact that Kash Patel, as the highest -ranking member of the administration, was in
4:22the locker room celebrating and called President Trump and had him talk to the team
4:27and invite them to the White House is actually 1 billion percent normal, and the
4:34fact that anyone is upset by it to any degree at all is illustrative to
4:38me of how Democrats have lost normalcy and men, white, black, Asian, and Hispanic in
4:44particular, in America, they are angry over something that's been happening for generations that I
4:51frankly don't think a single person would be angry about here if we had a
4:55Democrat in office and they had been congratulating the United States.
4:59In fact, it would be the most normal thing a Democrat politician had done in
5:04a decade or more, but this is what happens when you lose the culture.
5:07You start flailing and looking ridiculous and lose even more of the culture.
5:12Do you sense this? I just, I gotta tell you, I am super optimistic about
5:17the overall trend lines of the country in so many different directions, but most importantly,
5:22in the terms of this story, the degree to which young particularly male athletes are
5:28over the woke bs and want to be proud of america again the hockey team
5:34perfectly embodies i believe the spirit that is taking over the country when it comes
5:38to young men we had a couple of our team clay as you know our
5:44team on radio yeah i heard the talk walking around on cloud nine producer mark
5:49producer greg you know a little bit of chin wagging around the office after their
5:54beloved uh new york i mean not new york uh united states national hockey team
6:00came up with the big gold medal so are we have some because we have
6:03some they're diehard hockey guys just so you know so i want you to know
6:06that there is representation in clay and buck world for the diehard hockey fans i
6:10have not watched a hockey game i don't know even know that i think you
6:15said yesterday because i heard the open before i hopped the flight i think you
6:18said that you did not even know the gold medal hockey game was taking place
6:22on sunday morning is that accurate i was unaware yeah so but see i'm up
6:28front about this this is why i had them weigh in i didn't want i
6:30didn't want our hockey fans listening to feel like their love of hockey was so
6:35we we have hockey super fans i think they show up wearing hockey jerseys half
6:40the time to work they love hockey i love that they were able to speak
6:43out lack of hockey knowledge yesterday it was funny listening you said that your helmet
6:48didn't fit in first grade and so you therefore abandoned a career in hockey it
6:53was too what was too small my head was too they needed to get me
6:56adult size helmets when i was like eight or something my head is huge and
7:00you know the doctor pulled me in recently for my son who's the cutest little
7:04baby we love him so much and he's like you know your son has a
7:07head in the 99 .6 percentile of size for his age right and i said
7:11doc this is not a surprise that's actually a tough blow for carrie uh more
7:16so than for you uh but here is uh the other thing that i thought
7:21i was listening to you uh and i saw him last night jack hughes doesn't
7:26got his teeth fixed buck if you told me that i was going to lose
7:29a front tooth and it was going to part of my teeth were going to
7:33get knocked out i would be curled up in the fetal position for a week
7:38the idea that you get your teeth knocked out and then score the winning goal
7:43these dudes are a different breed and then you're still out uh two days later
7:49you probably haven't slept since you won the hockey game you flew all the way
7:52back from italy you're out in miami you're going to be at the state of
7:55the union here still haven't got the teeth fixed doesn't that hurt wouldn't you think
8:00like even drinking a beer or any anything at all i the whole teeth thing
8:06i i don't think i could play hockey because as soon as you told me
8:09hey you you have a good chance to lose a tooth doing this i'm like
8:13i'm out i'm sorry that is not the sport for me uh that is that
8:17is too tough like and to continue playing after you lose a tooth uh is
8:22is next level i i these guys are just tough and i think a lot
8:26of americans are even if they're like me and they're not necessarily die hard um
8:32you know hockey fans i don't pay a ton of attention to hockey on a
8:35regular basis i think these teams the men in particular but also the women have
8:40won the hearts and minds of america and i do think it's culturally significant um
8:46just how much of an impact they're having right now now why aren't the women
8:50going to the white house you're you know you know i'm sorry here's the thing
8:56i think they think so so we got a couple things going on here you
9:00got trump made a little joke a little joke it is actually a funny joke
9:05okay whatever the fact that he said if the women don't come to i'll get
9:09impeached is a funny joke uh about the fact that they're going to come visit
9:14to it's very trump there are people who are claiming that they are outraged as
9:20feminists and my question for those feminists would be if you're going to be outraged
9:25about a joke isn't the biggest joke of all that you're letting men that is
9:28men with penises win women's championships if you had to be outraged by a joke
9:34wouldn't you be outraged by the joke that men are pretending to be women as
9:37opposed to president trump making a very slight joke about the fact that he has
9:42to treat everyone equally or else they'll be mad at him and the joke about
9:46treating everyone equally or else they would be mad at him has actually gotten all
9:50the people who are perpetually offended offended by him it was like a dad joke
9:56in terms of gentleness it was a very there was nothing people like it was
10:01misogynistic like this is the least i don't know i would say this least misogynistic
10:06joke trump's ever made maybe uh but there was nothing about it that should have
10:11been upsetting to anybody but it does raise the issue of like you know i
10:15will tell you when i was in college i discovered women's hockey and i discovered
10:19women's hockey because there was one rather attractive lady on the women's hockey team who
10:25asked me to come watch her game once and i said i would do so
10:28and then i went and i just was watching it was like watching people skate
10:33around on ice and then when they would go close to each other and i
10:37was waiting for the kapow and the whole thing they just sort of swerve away
10:41from each other very gently very nicely not exactly the same sport clay it's a
10:46it's a different a different vibe on the women's hockey rink and by the way
10:50the speed is different and since We are incredibly foremost defenders of women's sports as
10:57well here. You have actually pointed out sometimes that can lead to a more aesthetically
11:02pleasing version of the game.
11:03For instance, tennis is, because men is all power, so much of the men's game
11:09is huge serve, very short points, whereas women in general tend to have longer rallies.
11:16If you can try to pattern your tennis game as a recreational male player against
11:21the number 100 women in the world, who, by the way, is obviously way, way
11:25better than you, but you can at least try to pretend that.
11:29Watching Andy Roddick or Murat Safin or Federer play tennis is a different sport than
11:35what normal people play. It's a different level of speed and pace and everything else.
11:41But this is indicative of what left -wingers are saying.
11:45This is someone named Sarah something, but she has, let's see, an audience of around
11:52100 ,000 people on Twitter.
11:53If anyone regrets laughing along to a stupid joke, just know there's still time to
11:59speak up. The world is watching.
12:01Your daughters are watching. It would mean a lot to be the person who spoke
12:06up. Have you ever thought to yourself, I like someone who apologized for laughing at
12:12a joke? Have you ever liked someone more because they said that?
12:17This whole, this is so ridiculous.
12:20This whole idea of, I'm going to apologize for my reaction.
12:25Go ahead. No, I was just going to say, I've never heard anyone apologize for
12:30an honest reaction and thought better of them.
12:32I'm sorry I laughed at a joke is the lamest thing you could ever do
12:37on the planet. Oh, yeah.
12:40Well, I was going to say, I've never been angry at anything that has ever
12:44been said that I found truly funny.
12:47Like, it's never actually made me mad if it was legitimately funny to the point
12:51where even when people have really ripped on me, randos on the Internet and stuff,
12:57if it's funny, it doesn't really bother me.
13:00Even if it's very mean, I just look, I've said this for a long time.
13:05I've written it in books, and I would encourage all of you out there.
13:08This is how you win culture.
13:10Be the party that likes jokes, even if sometimes the jokes are offensive, even if
13:16sometimes the word choice of a joke is not the one that you would have
13:20picked. No one wins culture by being perpetually offended by jokes, and I think Republicans
13:27have, and I think in general, have done a good job of sometimes accepting that
13:33they are the butt of the joke and moving on because much of popular culture
13:38is just people on late -night talk shows who should be telling jokes, deciding to
13:44react histrionically to things that are not actually that serious.
13:49Like, let's play that. Well, we'll play some of these cuts because if you're out
13:53there and you're saying, okay, Clay, I don't believe you.
13:56I don't think left -wingers are losing their mind over a hockey team and jokes
14:00from President Trump. We've got Don Lemon.
14:04We've got the former director of the FBI.
14:07We've got one of the senators out there in Oregon.
14:11We've got the entire view, and we've got Jon Stewart and Jake Tapper all claiming
14:17to be upset. By things relating to the U .S.
14:21men's hockey team for their substantial left -wing audiences.
14:25So, this is real. They are losers.
14:27They should be mocked, and we will have a lot of fun doing so on
14:31the program today, among other things, as it is State of the Union Day.
14:34And I am excited to see, will Democrats stay seated when the gold medal -winning
14:40U .S. men's hockey team shows up at the State of the Union because they
14:44are so desperately offended over the fact that there were jokes made and that the
14:49women have elected not to show up?
14:51Which, by the way, I think is a poor choice by them, frankly, because I
14:56do think that if they were to show up, they would be well -received.
15:00And this is one of those things that I don't think is very complicated.
15:03It's, hey, if you get the opportunity to meet the president, if you get the
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17:05T's and C's apply. Welcome back in.
17:07Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
17:09We head up to Baltimore, a city that is filled with patriots.
17:13In the wake of the U .S.
17:15men winning the hockey gold medal, there was a mega viral moment, a tweet that
17:23was shared from Jimmy's Famous Seafood Awesome Place.
17:28We are joined now by Small Business Administration Head Kelly Loeffler.
17:33I was with her last week.
17:34She is fantastic. And also the owner of Jimmy's Famous Seafood, John Minidakis.
17:41And let's go ahead and bring both of you in.
17:43For people who don't know, you had a mega viral response to the Huffington Post
17:48being troubled by the fact that the U .S.
17:52men and the Olympics outcomes.
17:55Where were you? How did this story happen?
17:58So funny enough, I was actually in church for Godparents Sunday.
18:01I probably shouldn't say that.
18:02We were watching the game on my phone, watching the overtime on my phone.
18:06We were at school outside to the foyer.
18:09And once that overtime goal hit me, when Jack brought it home, pure euphoria and
18:14glad. It was a feeling I can't even explain.
18:17And I'm sure everybody listening right now felt the same way.
18:20And then the Huffington Post was upset.
18:24And you hopped in the comments.
18:26And it was absolutely spectacular.
18:29We're on radio, so be careful here.
18:31But what did the Huffington Post say?
18:33And what was your response that went so mega viral?
18:37Yeah, well, look, just like I referenced, everybody was on cloud nine.
18:41Obviously, you're seeing so many beautiful images.
18:43You're seeing Johnny Hockey's kids on the ice.
18:46It's memories you're going to carry forever and bring tears to your eyes.
18:49And then sprinkled in right there in the middle, you see the Huffington Post saying,
18:53you know, you shouldn't be cheering for these people.
18:55And that's when I guess we typed out what everybody that read that was probably
19:00thinking. And that was GFY.
19:03GFY. You can figure it out.
19:05Kelly, you're doing amazing work for the Small Business Administration.
19:09I know you wanted to go up and check out Jimmy's.
19:12You guys are there together right now.
19:14This kind of personifies the greatness of small business, doesn't it?
19:19Absolutely, Clay. I landed late last night back from the Olympics cheering Team USA on.
19:24And my first stop back here was at Jimmy's Famous Seafood.
19:27First of all, I had a great lunch.
19:29Unbelievable crab cakes. I have immediately ordered some to be shipped online.
19:33But I will tell you exactly what small business means to America and its authenticity,
19:38its jobs, its innovation, and its opportunity.
19:43I just got to hear the great story of this family and the business that
19:47John and Tony's father built over the last 50 years.
19:52And now they've taken it over.
19:55It's just a beautiful story.
19:56That's what small business is.
19:58This is great, by the way.
19:59You guys will appreciate this.
20:01Yes, the U .S. hockey team has just landed at Andrew's Air Force Base.
20:06One of the players walked off carrying an American flag, and they are greeting many
20:11different members of the military and law enforcement that have lined up along a gate
20:17to represent them. This is the best of America, right?
20:20American exceptionalism. We went overseas.
20:23Kelly, you were there. You guys saw this, and we kicked everybody's ass.
20:28American exceptionalism is back, just like in 1980, the miracle on ice.
20:33This is about bringing back the celebration of American strength unapologetically.
20:38And, you know, Clay, you've pointed out, like, sports used to be about bringing everyone
20:42together. It needs to be there again.
20:44But, you know, what they're trying to do is distract from the failures of, you
20:50know, kind of this woke era.
20:51And we're never going to apologize for winning.
20:54We're just getting started, actually, as a country.
20:56And really, the best is yet to come.
20:58And I think that's what the president's going to talk about tonight at the State
21:00of the Union, too. Amen.
21:02We've got a heart out here.
21:04Keep up the good work, Kelly.
21:06Enjoy the State of the Union.
21:07And if you are in the Baltimore area, check out Jimmy's famous seafood, John Minidakis.
21:13That was a hell of a tweet.
21:14Congrats, brother, and thanks for being a spectacular American.
21:19We will be back right after this.
21:20Welcome back into Clay Ann Buck.
21:22I love this guy, Quinn Hughes.
21:24I don't even know anything about hockey.
21:27Or I love Jack Hughes, too.
21:28I guess I love the Hughes brothers is really what I'm trying to say.
21:31They have become American icons in the best possible way, celebrating a huge win, but
21:38just also the feelings of patriotism and that Americans can share in this.
21:44And it's important to have symbols.
21:47to celebrate greatness in our midst of our fellow americans you know clay i always
21:53say this to people and i really this is a little digression i'm weaving but
21:57it's okay uh you really know more about people based upon whether they can be
22:02happy for other people than when they're able to show sympathy for their losses i
22:08i think it's easy to say oh i'm so sorry like you're so down on
22:12your luck that's you really learn about somebody when they're willing to say wow something
22:16great is happening for you i'm so happy for you that's awesome and to really
22:20mean it you know i think it shows a lot more character it's actually you
22:24know rare because there's a lot of schadenfreude out there if i pronounce that correctly
22:29where yes people want uh to kind of marinate in the failure of others and
22:34also often hide while doing it uh it is yes very much a symptom i
22:41think of a social media age i think that is 100 true and the point
22:46i would make too i'm building on what you said is find people in your
22:49life who genuinely want you to be successful yes and invest in those relationships uh
22:56there are so many energy vampires out there i love this phrase i heard a
23:00college football coach use it once uh and he said there's we spend so much
23:05time in our lives no matter who you are in your culture trying to deal
23:09with people who drag you down and they use your energy to fill themselves but
23:15they don't give it back and everybody out there has somebody in their family somebody
23:20in their workplace somebody to the extent that you can avoid getting drawn into that
23:25your lives will be infinitely better yeah i mean i i say to people if
23:31you surround yourself with those who celebrate your wins with you uh you're making good
23:37choices but it doesn't you you have to know that they're really in on it
23:41right you have to know that they're not faking it and that's why you pay
23:44close attention you know if somebody if when you have a great day or a
23:48great thing or a big victory there's oh that's cool i didn't know that was
23:53you know as good as you think it is anything like that then you're you're
23:57seeing a side of somebody that tells you a lot about who they really are
24:01i bring it up because libs can't celebrate the american greatness here of this team
24:07because they are angry about america in general because of trump it is a sad
24:12state of affairs they have trump derangement syndrome they are malcontents but that is where
24:16they are on the other side of the equation you have uh the huge brothers
24:21for example and i just this is a just a great um i just a
24:26great little sound bite i want to play for everybody uh well actually did you
24:29already do 31 clay i got two girls here so this is the i'm going
24:34to start with this one actually this is the mother of jack and quinn hughes
24:38and a development consultant for u .s women's hockey asked about the call to the
24:44men's team um and well this is a this is a solid these are kind
24:50of two different clips i'll start with 31 here this is uh what the mom
24:55of the quinn brother said about the president's call play 31 like at the end
24:59of the day it's just about the country and the moment that these players both
25:03the men and women can bring so much unity to a group into a country
25:08people that cheered on that don't watch hockey people that have politics on one side
25:13or on the other side and that's all both the men's team and the women's
25:17team care about if you could see what we see from the inside and the
25:21men and women sharing you know dorms dorm rooms and halls and flex floors and
25:27the camaraderie and the synergy and the way the women cheered on the men and
25:31the way the men cheered on the women that's what it's all about and the
25:35other things they cannot control um they care about humanity they care about unity and
25:40they care about the country i think that's an excellent take yes you don't it's
25:47a hundred percent the way that 99 .9 of people actually feel and this is
25:53why we asked o'reilly this this is why democrats building their arguments on the hills
25:59of these absurdities we just talked with the jimmy seafood guy and i wanted to
26:03share this huffington post which is now worth under a dollar a share buck buzzfeed
26:08it is completely collapsed it has no audience uh they have both always been trash
26:13they just use smoke and mirrors to convince people for a short moment on the
26:17left that they weren't trash but i was around at the origins of these entities
26:20and they've always been garbage keep going sorry uh huffington post the article that went
26:25viral and then we'll play this other cut of uh of that has gone viral
26:29from one of the sons of the mom that we just played huffington post had
26:34an article up that said if waving the american flag or chanting usa turns you
26:40off right now you're not alone and uh one of our listeners ronnie just shared
26:45the latest there uh with me and it says uh let's see that tweet from
26:51them got 1 .1 000 likes the response from jimmy seafood of and he said
26:59he was at church so he wanted to apologize for sending this from church it
27:03was very funny gfy and you could probably think the expletive in the middle go
27:08and well i can say two of the three go yourself a hundred and twenty
27:14thousand likes you on social media that is in response to if the american flag
27:19makes you uncomfortable and chanting usa during the olympics does too and then the u
27:26.s men just landed at andrews air force base buck they were swarmed by soldiers
27:31there and they immediately went and took photos with them and democrats and uh sports
27:39media which is kind of as you've learned buck and overlap a hundred percent are
27:44outraged by this and i just want you to listen to what uh jack hughes
27:49who scored the winning goal this is the kind of thing that democrats are outraged
27:54by and this is why i think so many soldiers rushed to him as and
27:58his teammates as soon as they landed listen to this i mean it's just so
28:02special and uh i want to thank our troops for allowing us to play this
28:07game thank our troops for allowing us to play this game and um thank all
28:13the support back home but very special to be a part of this group that's
28:18quinn hughes the brother of jack and i just i really i'm not making this
28:23up there are 50 democrats who are going to skip the state of the union
28:26tonight buck uh how are democrats going to respond when the u .s men's gold
28:33medal hockey winning team are introduced are some of them going to refuse to stand
28:38because they're upset about trump's joke i i mean i think probably some democrats will
28:42refuse to stand and cheer a gold medal winning team because their brains are broken
28:47this is almost this is almost like uh like a stand -up in and of
28:52itself uh you know someone made a joke about women not being able to take
28:57a joke and these women are not able to take a joke yeah that's really
29:01the joke is is really about women not being able to take a joke and
29:04they're not able to take it this is where we are now this is not
29:07a good approach to this especially because by the way it wasn't as we pointed
29:13out it was funny under the circuit it was a funny moment he was just
29:16being a guy's guy for a minute okay which again democrats no understanding of that
29:20they pretend that there's no such thing as being a guy's guy anymore that's why
29:24they put out tim wall's jazz hands broadway choreographer from minnesota the least guy's guy
29:30and he oh coach remember they're trying to say he was coach walls and turn
29:33out he was like the water boy for a month or something like not even
29:36a real football coach the least guy's guy that they could find in the whole
29:40state of minnesota practically i mean you you you pull any dude out of a
29:44hunting stand in minnesota and he'd be more masculine tim wall's that was the best
29:48they could offer the national stage clay they have completely abandoned this very just commonplace
29:56and basic understanding of being a guy's guy they don't even know what this means
30:00anymore they have lost the ability to have normal conversations with half the country they
30:05really have um and the tim wall's the analogy i made is it's like you
30:10ask the lesbians who's the most masculine man we could pick tim wall's is the
30:14guy they would pick a lesbian's idea of a midwesterner who will appeal to men
30:20but one of the things i like to say uh is jbn and what does
30:26it stand for just be normal you you don't have to reinvent the wheel just
30:32be normal and it's staggering how many democrats can't just be normal they are particularly
30:39the men very very strange and very weird and uh you know we just talked
30:45with bill o'reilly one reason why i think stephen a smith could have success in
30:49the democrat party is he is a guy who could talk to dudes and uh
30:55you know that joke trump made a joke for those of you didn't hear it
30:58uh that basically was hey i want you to know we're going to invite you
31:02to the white house state of the union we'll have to invite the women too
31:05because otherwise i'll get impeached haha and people are offended by that joke how many
31:11times do guys say something like hey like if buck and i said hey we're
31:17going to do something kind of fun but we got to get the wives too
31:20or else they'll divorce us it's a joke it's not being taken for truth uh
31:27and i just it is funny how really what you can boil things down to
31:34now in our country is who can you make jokes about and who can take
31:38a joke or who can take jokes is really the big yeah yeah who can
31:41take but also who you can make jokes about because because of identity politics democrats
31:46for instance were upset with dave chappelle making fun of trans people oh that's because
31:50they can't take a joke that's right you're not allowed to do it because they
31:53you know because the assumption is they can't take the joke right so this is
31:56the although it is interesting i will say sometimes the people to your point who
32:00are saying you can't make that joke do it on behalf of people who are
32:05like no i actually thought that was funny that's rare but that does happen oh
32:08there's a lot of liberal white people who want to tell you what jokes can
32:12be made in the larger context of society about people that are not like them
32:17at all and i mean really this is about language i mean the latinx thing
32:21is one of my favorite when they decided that hispanic people needed to be called
32:25latinx and then you talk to hispanic people this was a democrat white lady talking
32:30point and then you talk to hispanic people and they had no idea what latinx
32:34meant and they also found it ridiculous the idea was you're not going to say
32:38latino and latina right because that's gendered language and gendered language language cannot be allowed.
32:44So we'll just refer to everyone as Latinx.
32:48It's like, who even comes up with this?
32:51And the people out there who were Hispanic looked around and said, you're not talking
32:57to us. And I think this is what happens when you let left -wingers dictate
33:02the conversational topics. And it's why I think culturally Democrats are broken.
33:07And this hockey win has become so emblematic of that truth.
33:13And trust me, there's not any young men out there watching this and thinking, oh,
33:17I want to be more like the people who are censoring jokes.
33:20Because one of the responses that I'm seeing and that we're seeing online for young
33:24men, their jokes are way more savage.
33:27If you have teenage boys and you look at the jokes that they make, they
33:34are over the tiptoeing up to, oh, it's backlash humor.
33:39It's backlash to being told what you can and can't make jokes about.
33:42They rip stuff that you're like, whoa, OK, I've seen it.
33:45Look, this happened before in the 90s when we had remember when we had the
33:48politically correct world. And then you started to have a real pushback aggressively against it
33:53was early 90s, politically correct, late 90s.
33:56For a lot of you out there in Gen X and young millennials, you remember
34:00when that era just blew up.
34:02We're living through that area blowing up, too.
34:06And my wife just texted me with an explanation of the joke that she's really
34:13important. People need to recognize Trump was not actually making fun of the women's hockey
34:17team. He was making fun of himself and society for being so easily offended by
34:22everything he does that they try to impeach him for the slightest little thing, the
34:26slightest slip of the tongue.
34:27He was calling to congratulate the men's hockey team, recognizing clips going to be shared
34:32and recognizing that he is going to be criticized for anything and they'll impeach him
34:36if he doesn't invite the women.
34:37But yes, and Trump is actually mocking the media for the absurdity of the media's
34:42perspective. And then they followed him down the route.
34:44I was going to say Trump basically said, I mean, we all know the media
34:48can't take a joke and then they can't take the joke.
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36:47Margo Martin reports from the White House that Team USA has officially arrived and she
36:52has posted a photo of them posing in front of the White House.
36:57I believe that is on the South Lawn.
37:00So prepare for everyone to lose their minds over that.
37:05Now, we have got a bunch of talkbacks, many of them very funny.
37:09Let's start with Kelly. Well, I mean, I'm not surprised by this take.
37:14I think everyone basically is not offended by President Trump's remarks in the locker room
37:20while talking to the U .S.
37:21men. But here is Kelly from Northeast Arkansas.
37:25Gee. As a woman, I'm not offended by President Trump's remarks.
37:28He has daughters and granddaughters who play golf, so he obviously supports women in athletics.
37:33These hockey players just offended themselves out of a once -in -a -lifetime opportunity to
37:37be honored by their countrymen.
37:38Can we stop normalizing getting offended and getting praised for instead of being called out
37:42for the lack of character and maturity it shows?
37:45There's nothing less patriotic than to represent the U .S.
37:47on the world stage and then shun the president of your country.
37:50Now, that's offensive. Well said.
37:54Esther. Perfect. Esther. Was that the name that I said?
37:58What was the name that...
38:00Old -timey name? Yeah, Ethel.
38:02Is that what you're saying?
38:03Ethel. Ethel. Ethel. I was like...
38:06Somebody was mad at me in Ethel back in the day.
38:08I haven't heard of an Esther.
38:09Well, you said everyone named Esther.
38:10Well, you said everyone named Esther.
38:10Ethel is 80 years old, and then we had a bunch of our esteemed and
38:14beloved 80 -year -old listeners calling in to light you up.
38:17For being correct. I think that's what I said.
38:20I said no one has been named Ethel since 1935, and that is true.
38:25I have not heard of an Esther in a very long time either.
38:28She's out in Staten Island listening to us on WOR, and she remembers Steal the
38:35Bacon, but she's Jewish, so they had another name for it.
38:38Steal the Bacon? I went to a Jewish summer camp, and instead of saying Steal
38:42the Bacon because Jews don't eat bacon, we played Steal the Salami.
38:46It's exactly the way you described it.
38:48Thank you. Love your show.
38:50Wait, isn't salami also a pork product?
38:53Why would that be better?
38:55I'm confused, right? I mean, Producer Mark is Jewish.
38:59Salami is more of a sauce.
39:04Oh, I'm sorry. Salami is, okay, Crash, Producer Crash comes in.
39:08Salami is beef. Whoa, whoa.
39:10I was way off on that.
39:11Sorry. I thought salami was a pork product.
39:14All this time. You got to hide the salami.
39:18Kelly in Oklahoma City. It's no Polish sausage, let me tell you.
39:24Buck's roommate introduced him to Polish sausage.
39:26It also introduced him to hide the salami.
39:28Kelly from Oklahoma City, 1000 KTOK.
39:34What you got for us?
39:35Holy crap, Buck. You unlocked a memory treasure trove when you brought up Steal the
39:41Bacon. It is totally a thing.
39:46And Steal the Bacon was a great game.
39:48It was a great game.
39:49And also, if you were really good at it, you smoked somebody so badly that
39:52sometimes they would like kind of trip in the grass on the way because they
39:55got surprised when their name.
39:57Clay, you'd call out their name.
39:59So I would call out like, or somebody would call out like, Clay, Buck.
40:02And you'd run to get the ball in the middle.
40:04And if you weren't paying attention, home slice, all of a sudden you were eating
40:07dirt. And I was stealing that bacon.
40:10I've never played this game in my life.
40:13But a podcast listener who requests to stay anonymous says he is a P .E.
40:19coach in Miami and Steal the Bacon, a big part of his P .E.
40:26repertoire, cut 11. Buck, you're not alone on that island.
40:29I'm a P .E. coach here in Miami, Florida.
40:31And Steal the Bacon is the best game.
40:34It's the go -to game here.
40:36Kids love it. Teaches them about life.
40:39They got to be ready to get that bacon and take it back to their
40:43team. This gentleman is, by the way, he's correct.
40:46It is a microcosm of capitalism.
40:49It's like, you know, you got to be, when you're called, when your name is
40:52up, you better get that bacon or somebody else is.
40:54Like, this is life. He's correct.
40:56Did you have P .E.
40:57every day at your fancy high -end high school?
41:00You did. We used to play dodgeball.
41:02We had to wear a jacket and tie.
41:03We would play dodgeball in our jacket and tie, which in retrospect feels like some
41:09kind of punishment. But we would just be wailing each other as hard as we
41:13could with these big rubber balls, wearing a little, like, emblazoned blazer with our, you
41:19know, our rep tie on.
41:20I don't know how P .E.
41:24teachers are now, and P .E.
41:27teachers of America are probably going to unleash upon me.
41:31If you had to pick a school teacher who did the least on a day
41:37-to -day basis. Oh, don't be throwing this at the P .E.
41:54teachers. And just rolled the basketballs out or just, you know, rolled the kickballs out
41:59or whatever it was and just kicked up and chilled, overwhelmingly P .E.
42:05was the place where it was the easiest teaching job.
42:09I got to throw a flag here, Clay, okay?
42:12First of all, for Mr.
42:14Sportsman to be throwing the P .E.
42:16teachers of America under the proverbial bus here, all right, to be leaving them last
42:22picked for dodgeball, so to speak, unfair.
42:24And let me explain why.
42:26A lot of places, like this was the case at my little Catholic school in
42:31New York, which was St.
42:33David's, you had coaches. So the coaches of the teams also did P .E.
42:39classes, you know what I'm saying?
42:41So it was like the guy who was the head basketball coach would also take
42:45some P .E. during the day.
42:46That often happens, too, so he has more time.
42:50But I had a lot of P .E.
42:52teachers. And, again, I'm asking has the P .E.
42:58ease, like is it more organized now?
43:02I had a lot of P .E.
43:03teachers that just said, hey, here's the eight basketballs, kids, and would just throw them
43:08out. And I don't complain.
43:09I would rather play basketball during P .E.
43:12class than have some sort of, you know, every now and then we would have
43:15a really aggressive P .E.
43:17teacher. And he was like, this week everybody's playing badminton.
43:19And you're like, what are we doing?
43:21Like, what are we playing badminton for?
43:22So I'm not opposed necessarily to P .E.
43:25teacher who just lets you play kickball every day.
43:28But are they more regimented now?
43:30And unfortunately, I also know that they have taken P .E.
43:34out of a lot of schools.
43:35And then they came back and said, well, we have to mandate P .E.
43:38now. It's curious what I think there should be like now.
43:41I remember when I was a kid in school that there was never enough in
43:45the day. We never had enough sports time and we always had too much.
43:49You know, this is what, like I said about the speech thing.
43:51I think kids are subjected to too many hours of wah, wah, wah, wah, wah,
43:56wah in a classroom. Most young kids were reasonably energetic and, you know, they want
44:01to be running around getting getting after stuff for at least an hour and a
44:04half, two hours a day.
44:05And that's really what, and sports class was always like 45 minutes by the time
44:09we actually were, you know, ready for it.
44:10It was not enough. So I think there should be more of that.
44:14But it's funny to me, Clay, because I remember, again, I'm talking grammar school now.
44:18But if you had, if we like had, and I had a pretty, my class
44:21was pretty notoriously bad. A lot of misbehavior in that class.
44:26And if you were naughty, they would make you do like calisthenics and push -ups,
44:31which is funny because now as adults, my wife, all of her friends, they're paying
44:36people to yell at them to make them do push -ups at these classes.
44:39But when we were kids, if you were really bad, it was like, I'm going
44:43to make you get stronger and improve your physique.
44:46Darn it, you know, and you're like, no, why are you so mean?
44:50Arguably, push -ups is the single best workout if you had to only pick one
44:54that you could do. And in that context, by the way, you were talking about
44:59the hours that are wasted.
45:01AI, have you seen some of the articles about how AI is designing optimal two
45:08-hour instruction days for kids?
45:10And I know a lot of you out there have done homeschooling.
45:13And you have these homeschooling lesson plans.
45:16And you can get through them in a couple of hours.
45:18And kids have hours and hours and more of entertainment.
45:21Clay, I do think re -examining the way that we do elementary school education in
45:26particular, much of it is broken.
45:29I think the data would reflect.
45:31This is, I am an aspiring radical on this.
45:35And we should do a whole other, you know, we should do more of a
45:39deep dive into this and get some people on.
45:41Because there are things popping up here in Miami where you have, you don't have
45:47the same established school system at an elite level.
45:51I'm just going to say it, that you did in, say, New York City where
45:53I was, right? You just, it's not, you don't have the same amount of choice.
45:56You don't have, there's no Stuyvesant equivalent here, which is a public school where you
46:00basically have to test in, like, the 97th percentile of all test takers to get
46:06it. Like, you don't have that here.
46:07It's just not the same pool.
46:09And so people are getting more creative with how they're educating their kids because there's
46:13just too much demand on the school system already for the good schools here.
46:16There are some very good schools here, but there's too much demand.
46:18So people are getting more creative.
46:20I bring it up because even where I live, I'm finding that there are more
46:24people doing this. Hybrid learning has this terrible, because of COVID, and it's like hybrid
46:29learning. No, no, no, true hybrid learning, meaning they'll do with tutors in a pod
46:34two or three hours a day with a couple of other kids in one home
46:39or in one location. Then they'll join for sports and, like, traveling sports, like teams,
46:43like they're competitive, and they'll go do that.
46:46And there's ways to do this because a few things are emerging.
46:50One is that kids are in school too long, especially at a young age, and
46:54the school system is not getting better.
46:56If anything, it's getting worse, and also a lot of the school system used to
47:05have – well, I could go on and out about this.
47:10I'll just say – It is an interesting point here that AI gives us –
47:18there's a lot of talk about AI, but it gives us an opportunity to reexamine
47:21whether we are doing things in the most efficient and cost -effective manner possible across
47:26much of society. And I genuinely wonder – my kids are basically through elementary school
47:34now, and I feel fortunate.
47:35They've all went to public school K -6, basically, and then they've gone to private
47:40school since. But I feel like we had great public schools, great elementary school teachers.
47:44I have loved it, but I do wonder, on some level, whether there is a
47:52better way to educate kids that's more effective and more cost -productive.
47:56Do you think that also a lot of – do you think that a lot
48:00– this is something that's been bandied about a little bit on the Internet.
48:03Do you think that a lot of – particularly who would have been all -star
48:06female teachers because of the – basically went to work and became VPs at Morgan
48:13Stanley instead. I think that's an interesting – I'm not saying there aren't a lot
48:17of great teachers. Okay, we're talking about at a macro level, hundreds and hundreds of
48:20thousands of different roles. But small changes in the average make big changes for the
48:27outcome. And I do think that our generation saw the first surge of a lot
48:34of women who would have just by nature of – women tend to do –
48:38veterinarians, nurses, pediatricians, school teachers, these were heavily female -dominant professions, became much less so.
48:48And I think you might have lost a lot of great, particularly female teachers.
48:52And I think the quality of the teachers you're getting because of the economic incentives
48:57to do other things has been hurt in places.
49:00So I think that's all real.
49:02I think that needs to all be considered as part of this as well.
49:05I'm – I talked – I mean, Kerry – thinks i'm nuts because i also
49:08went to you went to fancy schools i went to fancy schools and i don't
49:11pretend that i didn't i mean i went to a scholarship school and you went
49:13to school on a full scholarship so it's a little bit of a different picture
49:16than like just fancy but you know what i'm saying academically considered academically elite places
49:21i i think there are better ways i'm talking especially for young kids people want
49:26to send their kids to the most rigorous high school the most rigorous college i'm
49:28not going to pretend like that's not you know advocated but first grade fourth grade
49:34you got to have kids in class eight hours a day i'm sorry it doesn't
49:37add up to me it doesn't make sense to me i think we should re
49:41-examine a lot of this and try to take the best practices that come forward
49:45and honestly we had secretary of education linda mcmahon on and for instance going back
49:50to what makes more sense has been what led mississippi for instance which is not
49:56renowned for its educational system historically to have tremendous success and so i think challenging
50:03the way that people do things now biggest challenge on this buck is going to
50:06be teachers overwhelmingly because of the unions fight anything anything that you try to change
50:14but i i definitely wonder if we're doing what is the best method to teach
50:19kids writ large you know do you know what the massive budget in new york
50:23city clay of 120 billion dollars new york city's budget is going to be bigger
50:27than florida's budget under mom donnie 40 of that budget education department for new york
50:32city i saw i think the number was that the average new york city kid
50:37they're spending 40 000 a year on educating them is that the right number i
50:41saw they're actually spending 40 000 a year on adults getting jobs where they don't
50:47do very much but they vote democrat that's actually what they're spending the money the
50:50reason why i was thinking about it is a lot of people out there hear
50:53and see oh that private school costs 40 000 a year and they think that's
50:58outrageous every public school kid in new york city we are spending 40k a year
51:05the equivalent of on their education in public schools and many of them are getting
51:09awful educations it's just a broken system i mean again i i this is a
51:14deep dive on this but when i see some of this data i i think
51:18it is a super intriguing and we should spend more time addressing it than we
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