Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 16 2026
4/16/202659 mincomplete
0:00This is an iHeart Podcast.
0:02Guaranteed human. So what does Kami Mamdani...
0:07Mamdani... It's not that easy to say.
0:13Kwame Mamdani. Mamdani. Oh, gosh.
0:17It's a tongue twister. Not easy to say.
0:19What does he have in store for the city of New York?
0:22Where, as you know, I still have family that lives there.
0:25And so I am very sympathetic to all of you, especially our WOR listeners who
0:33are in the greater New York area and have to deal with the consequences of
0:37some of the worst governance in the entire country.
0:41Some of the highest taxes, the greatest dysfunction, and there's no sign of any of
0:47it getting any better. And this is something that is a more general rule, and
0:51this is applicable to dealing with Democrats anywhere.
0:53So whether you live in Manhattan or Montana, this is something to keep in mind.
0:59Democrats do not learn the lessons that you, as a rational person, learn from decisions,
1:07from policy. They don't come away from, oh, this was a massive failure.
1:12This was a giant boondoggle.
1:14This was huge waste, fraud, and abuse.
1:17People suffered because of this, comma, maybe we should do something different.
1:22Their mindset is always, we needed to do more of it.
1:29The reason we didn't get the outcome that we wanted.
1:32The reason we didn't get to the utopian place.
1:35The place of perfection. The place of, oh, everybody has all the money they need.
1:40And everybody is totally equal.
1:42And there's no one who feels left out.
1:45And there's no resentment. And there's no envy.
1:47And that doesn't sound like reality, does it?
1:50But that's what they're going for.
1:51That's why they're commies. This is the vision of the future that they think they
1:57can construct for all of the rest of us.
2:00If only they have enough power.
2:01And that's the key. The problem is never the idea is bad.
2:06The problem is they had insufficient authority over you, another way of saying power, insufficient
2:14authority to achieve the end state.
2:17And one version of this or one variant of this is they did not have
2:23enough of your money to get done what needed to be done.
2:27And another, a corollary of this is they have never taken enough of your money.
2:33It's never enough. Because there could always be more brilliant, humanitarian, equitable things that they
2:42could do with your cash that you, of course, won't do.
2:45Because you're a fat cat.
2:47You're one of the elite.
2:50And many of you are saying, Buck, I make 50, 60, 70 grand a year.
2:55What are you talking about?
2:55Yeah, but you're not looking for handouts.
2:59You're not down with this Democrat welfarism and everything else.
3:02So you're a problem. And you are a cow to be milked like all of
3:07the rest of us. You're not some illegal who showed up here who's getting on
3:10benefits as fast as they can, defrauding the taxpayer and not contributing.
3:16No, no, no. You want autonomy.
3:19You want to contribute. You want to do things.
3:22And does the government ever thank you?
3:24Now, let's speak to New Yorkers for a second.
3:26Does the state of New York thank you for your high taxes?
3:29Do you feel thanked? If anything, I think they are outraged every time they take
3:36money from you. And I went through this myself.
3:38So I speak of that which I know they feel like you should thank them
3:44because they didn't turn you upside down and fully empty out your pockets.
3:50You are supposed to have a form of economic Stockholm syndrome in New York.
3:56You are to thank your economic captors for leaving you with some of the crumbs
4:02from the cake that you baked.
4:05And once you understand that mentality, once you have a full grasp and understanding of
4:11the mindset of the people who are pushing this stuff, who are demanding this stuff,
4:17then you're never surprised. Then it all lines up and you can see it coming
4:23a mile away. And with that, I give you Kami Mamdani talking about a new
4:32luxury tax on properties. Play cut six.
4:37When I ran for mayor, I said I was going to tax the rich.
4:40Well, today we're taxing. I'm thrilled to announce we've secured a pied -à -terre tax,
4:45the first in New York's history.
4:46This is an annual fee on luxury properties worth more than $5 million, whose owners
4:51do not live full -time in the city.
4:53Like for this penthouse, which hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin bought for $238 million.
4:58This pied -à -terre tax is specifically designed for the richest of the rich, those
5:01who store their wealth in New York City real estate but who don't actually live
5:04here. Most of the time, these units are sitting empty since, again, they don't actually
5:08live here. This is a fundamentally unfair system that hurts working New Yorkers.
5:13Now, it's coming to an end.
5:15I believe everyone has a role to play in contributing to our city.
5:18And some, a little bit more than others.
5:22This is moronic. He does not understand, he does not get why this is a
5:31bad idea. I truly believe that because he governs and he became the mayor of
5:38New York off of feel -goodism for people who are ignorant, unaccountable, and don't want
5:46to face reality. They want to create some perception.
5:50They want this utopia future that they'll never achieve, but like I said, their inability
5:56to achieve, and this is what's so important, wherever you are, Oregon, Georgia, Arizona, Maine,
6:04anywhere and everywhere in between, when Democrats fail, it's your fault.
6:11It's your fault, don't you see?
6:14You didn't give them enough money.
6:16You didn't give them enough power.
6:18You are the weak link in the chain, they say.
6:22They don't ever want to sit there and look at their idiotic ideas and the
6:28history of failure of those ideas.
6:30We've got Mom Donnie saying he's going to open a government -funded grocery store that's
6:36going to cost $30 million and take three years to build?
6:41Does anyone hear this? You don't know if you should laugh or cry.
6:46Why? That's crazy. But it's all about the idea.
6:51It's all about pushing this forward.
6:53It's saying, see, I am soaking the rich.
6:57And this is the other part of it as well.
6:59The politics of envy are not about math.
7:04You just had tax day yesterday.
7:07You just had to deal with this.
7:08Many of you, I had to write a big check.
7:10Like, the IRS just sucking money out of my bank account.
7:15The politics of envy are not about math, meaning they will do these things.
7:20And this was true of Obama.
7:21It's true of Biden. This is the Democrats really understanding how they view this stuff.
7:27They would rather try to soak the rich.
7:32It's very hard to do so, which we'll talk about in a second.
7:34But they would rather target the rich and have less revenue over time than promote
7:41pro -growth policies and have more revenue.
7:44Because if that more revenue means people doing well continue to do well and even
7:50do better, that's unacceptable. It is about tearing them down.
7:55It is about blaming them.
7:57It's the emotional appeal of this to people in New York.
8:01Otherwise, you'd sit there and say, hey, why is housing so expensive?
8:06Gee, I don't know. Maybe because of insane regulations the city of New York has.
8:11Maybe because the unions drive up the costs of all, all construction in ways that
8:17are just incomprehensible. Maybe it's because the tax climate is such that developers are having
8:23to make all kinds of concessions and deals just to get things done to build
8:27more. It's a mess. And the people telling you, in this case, Mom Donnie, but
8:33this is true in L .A.
8:34This is true in New York City.
8:36This is true all over the country, in any urban center, really.
8:40The people telling you it's because the rich don't pay enough, they've created the environment
8:45that makes it all so expensive.
8:48The people like Mom Donnie with his silver -tongued nonsense, they promise you that they
8:55will address these problems and hope you don't notice they are the cause of the
8:58problem. And this is where all this blame -shifting and understanding the mentality of these
9:03people is so powerful and is so important.
9:06Because otherwise you would say, okay, let's get to this pied -à -terre tax for
9:11a second here. Does he think – it's very specifically targeted, he says, at homes
9:15over $5 million people don't live in.
9:17Does he think that there's going to be some downstream effect of this?
9:21Has he considered that people – first of all, if you buy a very expensive
9:28– obviously a very expensive home, if you buy – in New York City there's
9:32$5 million homes everywhere, as you know.
9:34I mean, that's like a – in Manhattan, that's a nice two - or three
9:38-bedroom apartment. Standard, standard, three -bedroom apartment, $5 million.
9:42In Manhattan, that's not a – there are other states where a $5 million home
9:47– if you're in Nebraska, a $5 million home is going to have like a
9:51bowling alley. It's going to have a private pond you can water ski on.
9:56I mean, you know, you're talking about really probably 12 ,000 to 16 ,000 square
10:01feet, right? In New York City, it's a three -bedroom apartment.
10:04That's how expensive it's gotten there now.
10:06But he's saying this is going to help people.
10:09Some of the best residents you can have are people who don't use any of
10:14your services at all, aren't there that much, and are already paying taxes, have already
10:23put a lot of money into the economy, right?
10:26So this might have the effect of people buying fewer of these $5 million homes.
10:32This might have the effect of people saying, fine, I'll try to sell it.
10:36But then also your other buyers recognize that they're going to be targets for this
10:40too. And so they start putting their money in other places.
10:44I got to tell you, a $5 million house down here in South Florida, it's
10:48a nice house. It's not a crazy nice house.
10:51Won't get you on the water in most – places that's how tight the market
10:54has gotten here now and i mean south florida pretty broadly right i'm just talking
11:00about miami and uh and naples and some of the fanciest places palm beach palm
11:04beach you can't even get uh five million dollars get you like a glorified outhouse
11:09somewhere it's crazy so it's gotten so expensive the money's going to move elsewhere and
11:16you might say well why do we care and everything else well because the very
11:21decision making of someone like a mom donnie is going to make all this stuff
11:26worse this is what i think you have to remember it's it's not that they're
11:31offering trade -offs it's that they're doing things that exacerbate the thing that they claim
11:38they are fixing right it'd be one thing if they said hey you know i'm
11:44we're we're going to increase uh we're going to we're going to have way more
11:49doctors to increase the supply of doctors in new york city but we're going to
11:53have to raise some taxes for that i'm just coming up with something on the
11:57fly here you could say well look you're going to have to raise taxes a
12:00lot and this program is it even going to but you would at least theoretically
12:03have more doctors so maybe that's a good thing for mom donnie capping rent putting
12:09these wealth taxes and that's exactly what this is putting these things in place will
12:14make the affordability crisis worse will make the long -term fiscal projections of new york
12:20city worse and this is again that key and he knows it and he doesn't
12:27care and he still wants to do it it is about punishing your perceived class
12:33enemies it is about every person who lives in new york channeling who is frustrated
12:39about costs who is frustrated about their economics uh situation instead of being angry at
12:45the bureaucracy and the high taxes there which is a very reasonable position thinking yeah
12:50if only ken griffin paid more in taxes i could afford to send my kids
12:55to that you know catholic school or that that religious school in my neighborhood it's
13:00ken griffin's fault it's not ken griffin's fault this is idiotic in fact he's a
13:06job creator who's bought a lot of properties and moving a lot of cash around
13:09and creating a lot of uh a lot of actual wealth but at the same
13:14time you can see now why it never gets better with these people you can
13:20see why after de blasio to adams you know adams was we should appreciate him
13:25i guess more than we did at some level because while he was incompetent he
13:29wasn't he wasn't uh nefarious he wasn't intentionally ruining new york city he just wasn't
13:36a very good mayor we are now back to for ideological reasons mondat mondani intentionally
13:44ruining new york he thinks he's saving it of course but i can assure you
13:48this is only going to one place and it will be a bad place so
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14:56and buck have your back all right second hour of clay and buck kicks off
15:01right now our buddy ryan grudusky joins us it's a numbers game is his podcast
15:07and it has numbers rocketing up the charts my friends the more you guys want
15:11to listen uh rather the more you listen the more you love it because you
15:15learn political insights you learn things that people don't know out there because we brought
15:20in ryan to be our guy who looks at the data separates the signal from
15:24the noise it's a numbers game is that podcast in the clay and buck network
15:27you definitely want to check that out mr grudusky always a pleasure to have you
15:31on sir thanks for making the time thank you for having me on let's let's
15:36dive into this if you would if you would for me um ryan the what
15:41happens now as you see it in the california governor's race with the swalwell first
15:48off would you agree that the demolition of small swalwell was the fastest most effective
15:54crushing of a political future we've ever seen in the shortest period of time maybe
15:59there's somebody else who comes to mind let me know and then what happens now
16:03among those democrat candidates we got these republicans like steve hilton who we had on
16:07because i think a lot of eyes because of the swalwell in a sense has
16:12gotten even more attention on the governor's race because that's obviously a big part of
16:16why he was uh on the radar in the first place so we're Walk us
16:20through this. What happens in your mind?
16:23Well, yes, so Slawwell's, I mean, Slawwell's demise was extremely fast.
16:27I mean, even Anthony Weiner was able to hold on for longer periods of time.
16:30And I thought, honestly, Slawwell was going to stay in the governor's race no matter
16:33what. I guess losing all of his supporters was too much for his ego to
16:37handle. And it was the biggest whisper in Washington, D .C.
16:40Everyone had heard stories about Slawwell for a very long time, so it's not surprising.
16:45Slawwell's support has been splintered now among a lot of different candidates.
16:49Bexera is now gaining a lot of support.
16:52There's another candidate who's a San Jose mayor who's gained a little bit of his
16:55support. And obviously Tom Steyer, who's spending a gajillion dollars to become the governor, has
17:00got a lot of support.
17:01Here's the problem where Republicans face right now.
17:03Republicans in the latest Emerson poll are the first and second leading candidate.
17:08Whoever comes to the top two goes on to the general election.
17:11That means they will lock out the Democrats out of the governorship, and one of
17:15the Republicans will become governor.
17:16The problem is, of the undecided voters who are left, the smallest pool of undecided
17:21voters are Republicans. Republicans, 90 percent know who they're voting for.
17:25There's only 10 percent left versus about a quarter of Democrats and a quarter of
17:29independents. For a Republican to kind of milk out whatever juice they can, they really
17:36need to slice into about a third of the independent vote that's left.
17:40That's going to be kind of difficult.
17:41In the last two governor's races, Republicans got around 40, 41 percent of the vote
17:46in California. There's maybe eight points left to be generous left for the two leading
17:52Republican candidates. The rest are going to go to Democrats.
17:54If it's divided equally, which probably is not going to happen, then they are going
17:59to make the lock of the Democrat.
18:01Aside from that, I see probably either a Steyer or, you know, maybe a Bexera
18:06coming in second place. We'll see, though.
18:09So you're pretty look, we would love it if our friend Steve Hilton could pull
18:14this off. But it sounds like it's a really overwhelming favorite that it will be
18:19a Democrat, even with it.
18:20And maybe it makes it easy.
18:22Do you buy, by the way, that the Swalwell push out demolition, whatever you want
18:27to call it, was because at some level he made things such a mess for
18:32the Democrats by the numbers?
18:33Or was the timing more coincidental?
18:36The women just were sick of seeing his face on TV and the media realized
18:40he's not a protected one anymore.
18:42I think that no one took him seriously until he was leading in all the
18:46polls and all the unions are rallying around him.
18:48And I think a number of women were like, wow, he really can't be governor.
18:51I think that I don't think that anyone took him as seriously as that he
18:55was going to be the next governor until the polls shot up in his favor.
18:58Now, his name will by like will appear on the ballot.
19:01They can't take that off.
19:02So there'll be some vote that will go with Swalwell just because his name will
19:05be on the in the print.
19:07I don't think it was like this inside coordinated effect because if that was true,
19:10they would have done it before his name was printed on the ballot to get,
19:13you know, to stop anyone from kind of voting for him by accident even.
19:17So I don't believe it was an inside job.
19:18I think the women were coming forward.
19:20I know people who have come forward on different occasions for different things, and it's
19:24less politically planned than likely.
19:26Hilton is the most likely to make it to a general election.
19:30The question is, does Bianco maybe get three or four more points in the primary
19:35to join him in that general election?
19:37I really think that that's really the big question and where that number goes.
19:42So, I mean, it has to really be perfect for the Republicans to lock up
19:45the Democrats. Now, talk to me about how Trump is doing, and obviously that will
19:51affect Republicans' fortunes tremendously in the midterms, or I would think they would.
19:56But with this Iran situation continuing to now, it's ongoing.
20:01We're not blowing up stuff.
20:03We say we might blow up more stuff.
20:04We've got this blockade in place in the strait.
20:07It does look like Iran is somewhat cornered right now on this.
20:11I know CNN and others want to tell everybody that Trump is bleeding support and
20:15it's a disaster and everything else.
20:16But is that the case?
20:18Are we really seeing that?
20:20Or if things stay pretty status quo on this and oil prices don't go to
20:25$120 a barrel or something, is this not going to matter all that much in
20:31the fall? How do you see that?
20:34Well, Trump's numbers have fallen.
20:35But the good thing for Republicans is they've kind of plateaued around in the mid
20:41to high 30s. Not where you want to be, not for the midterm elections for
20:45sure, but we haven't seen another drop.
20:47It wasn't like the Bush years where all of a sudden he went to the
20:50high 20s. They've kind of stayed between the mid and the high 30s.
20:53A lot of coalition around Trump that's fallen apart are people who make less than
20:58$50 ,000 a year, young people, and Latinos.
21:00And there's a lot of crossover among those three groups.
21:02Really have led support. The one good thing is that among older people, there hasn't
21:08been as much bleeding. What I think right now Republicans should really be doing is
21:13talking about who's getting cash rebates and their taxes because of the new tax law,
21:17especially workers who get those tax on tips.
21:19Very popular. And some people have told me that it's like a life -changing amount
21:23of money that they've gotten back.
21:24So I would be campaigning right now on the economy and talking about the economy.
21:28The economy really hinges on everything.
21:29People don't like the foreign policy not because they think that Iran's going to win
21:33or not because they're rooting for Iran because they feel like it's a distraction from
21:37the economy. It really all goes back to how is the economy doing?
21:41And they look at the jobs, the job numbers not being terrific overall.
21:45Last month was pretty good, though.
21:46They look at the wage growth.
21:47They look at the inflation and they say, where is what you promise?
21:51It's all really going down to the economy.
21:52And if you can kind of make this miracle of the economy, come back from
21:56the first term. And now you have an announcement for this audience that I wanted
22:00to give you the opportunity to tell everybody about, because it certainly ties into a
22:03critical issue of the moment.
22:06What have you got cooking?
22:07What do you got cooking, Ryan?
22:09So I launched a new pack, a new super pack called Homeland Pack and go
22:13to Homeland Pack dot com.
22:14And basically what I'm doing now, after decades of Republicans promising strong borders and immigration
22:20enforcement, they have broken their promises time and time again.
22:23And we've seen now with Maria Salazar, the latest bill to bring amnesty to illegal
22:27aliens. And so this pack was created to, one, defend Republicans who are really good
22:32on immigration and two, to defeat Republicans in primaries who are really bad.
22:36There are millions of dollars swirling around from special interest groups, from big corporations to
22:40promote amnesty, to promote cheap labor.
22:42However, I'm going to do the opposite.
22:43I'm going to do it with, you know, hopefully some big donors will come my
22:46way. But also from grassroots donors, the way I did with the 1776 Project Pack,
22:50I want to do with Homeland Pack and make sure we defeat these Republicans who
22:54are supporting amnesty. We can't afford an amnesty, not even Salazar's quote unquote skinny amnesty.
23:00It will all come down to citizenship on a massive level and we will be
23:03in a situation like we are in California.
23:05We can't afford any more amnesty.
23:07So HomelandPact .com will go out specifically only about immigration, defending Republicans who are good
23:13in immigration and beating them who are bad in immigration.
23:16Speaking about immigration, and you mentioned Tom Steyer before, who I like to tell everybody,
23:22Tom Steyer is an inspiration because it's a reminder to all Americans that you too
23:28can become a billionaire, even if you have no wisdom, no personality and no redeeming
23:36quality in your politics whatsoever.
23:38So there's that. He's really he's a climate change wackadoo, which is easy to be
23:43easy when you're flying around on private jets and everything else.
23:46But his immigration policy, as it would be for the governor of California, if he
23:52were to become that I read this and I thought to myself, is this too
23:55crazy even for California or how does the Democrat Party message this?
24:01And it was, you know, I'm talking about he's put out this new immigration blueprint
24:05for California, which obviously it's a federal issue.
24:07And I look at this, I'm saying this guy, Tom Steyer is is nuts, like
24:11no lessons have been learned by Democrats at all on immigration.
24:14It feels like they just want to double down on all the failures of the
24:18past. And the biggest irony is Tom Steyer's portfolio, financial portfolio is a lot on
24:24immigration because he works with the private prisons who apprehend and deport illegal immigrants.
24:30So everything about him is utterly fraudulent.
24:33Yeah, he makes a lot of money because of deporting illegal aliens.
24:36Can I pause you for just to give you some of the things?
24:38So his for his gubernatorial campaign, we have abolish ICE, put ICE in jail and
24:46all cooperation with federal law enforcement, a legal defense fund, which I think is taxpayer
24:52funded, sent sent out to make sure that deportations are effectively impossible.
24:57So, like, California is going to have its own defense fund and legalizing, like reinstating
25:05DACA and DAPA. Like, the guy's the governor, not the president.
25:08But he's as far left on immigration as I think anybody in the Democrat Party
25:13is right now. Yeah, well, he's trying to put out a flank.
25:16He can't do, like, any of those things.
25:18Like, I mean, I guess he can create a public fund in California.
25:21Aside from that, he can't do a single solitary one of these promises.
25:24And I think his investment portfolio, according to Fox News, was two hundred and fifty
25:28million dollars he's made off of the detention of illegal immigrants.
25:31So he has a financial incentive not even to do any of these things.
25:35He's he's he's become wealthier than almost every, you know, the ninety nine point nine
25:40percent of Americans because they're deporting illegal aliens.
25:43Yeah, this is listen. He's trying to corner to make sure no one can get
25:46further left from him on an issue that galvanizes not just a group of Hispanics
25:51in the ethnic lobby, but also angry white liberals who have made hating ICE equal
25:56to hating the president. And that's really what he's trying to signal to is I
26:00will be your ultimate advocate.
26:02I'm going to do the most radical things against the federal government.
26:04I mean, he might as well be saying, you know, he's going to do what
26:07they did in Ruby Ridge with attacking federal agents.
26:10It doesn't work out in your favor.
26:11You have no ability to do any of those things.
26:13But it's not about like having a coherent message of what you can do.
26:16It's all about trust trying to fight Trump.
26:18What's next for it's a numbers game?
26:20You've already got something in the docket or you're still figuring out what numbers you
26:25want to crunch a deep dive on the Virginia election.
26:28Why is Abigail Spanberger's numbers crashing?
26:31Who is leaving her coalition?
26:33Remember, Virginia has local state legislative elections in twenty twenty seven and the Democrats have
26:38a one seat majority in the state Senate.
26:41So, you know, can there be a referendum on Abigail Spanberger?
26:43How is it looking for the referendum?
26:45Why is it so close?
26:46Where can this happen? And it's going to be a great episode.
26:49So I'm looking forward to that coming out.
26:50Just real quick on that.
26:52Is it is it something it hasn't become clear to enough voters in Virginia, you
26:58think, that Spanberger ran is like, hey, I'm just like a mom and a moderate.
27:02And then as soon as she was in power, it was like, I am a
27:05Marxist lunatic who wants to take your guns and raise your taxes.
27:09Well, the interesting thing is Spanberger is losing support from both low income voters and
27:13high income voters. And we're seeing.
27:15with the referendum on redistricting a 41 point flip away from Spanberger from she won
27:22independence by 17 points. Right now, the referendum is losing on independence by 24 points,
27:27a tremendous 41 point shift among that group in just six months.
27:32I think I think her presidential ambitions are really coming to a close very, very
27:37quickly in this administration. Ryan Gurdusky, everybody.
27:40It's a numbers game is the podcast.
27:42And what's the pack again, Ryan?
27:43Allman pack .com. Check it out.
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29:00Preset Clay and Buck on the iHeart app.
29:03Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
29:06You know, we were just talking a few minutes ago about my friend Ryan Gerdusky
29:09of our podcast network and his pack that is going to try to primary.
29:14People always ask, you know, how can you how can you do anything about these
29:18Republicans betraying us and all this?
29:20Well, you can primary them.
29:22You can primary Republicans who don't keep their word.
29:27That's a very good place to start.
29:29In fact, one of the worst things that I think the GOP party faithful do
29:33in politically speaking is just get lazy and just vote for this incumbent year.
29:39Well, not year after year, but election after election and then they complain and then
29:44they see them on Fox News and they go, oh, I'll still vote for that
29:47guy because he's on Fox News sometimes.
29:49I go, well, but just because he says the right things on Fox, maybe gets
29:54decent ratings when he does or she does.
29:56Depends. Doesn't mean that this is the person you want representing your state or your
30:01district in the United States Congress.
30:04Right. I mean, we can understand the difference in that, I would I would think.
30:07But sure enough, GOP primary voters can be quite a bit on the on the
30:12lazy side about this stuff.
30:14But I bring you this on the immigration front.
30:17This is Bill Malugian from Fox News reporting.
30:22Six House Republicans have voted with Democrats to advance.
30:28And this was yesterday to advance Representative Ayanna Pressley.
30:34Her temporary protected status for Haitians extension for three more years.
30:41The motion passed 219 to 209.
30:46It will go down to a final House vote.
30:48Guys, check on this when the final House vote is because this was from yesterday.
30:51This is today, I assume, at some point.
30:53The six House GOP members to vote with Democrats were Representative Don Bacon of Nebraska.
31:03This is every radio host nightmare when they only have the state with the initials.
31:07And it's like a little bit of a it's like a high school or not
31:10even high school, a grade school social studies test.
31:13Can I get all the Florida?
31:14I can get right. FL representative Maria Salazar, Florida, Carlos Jimenez, Florida, Brian Fitzpatrick, Pennsylvania,
31:26Mike Lawler, New York, Nicole Meliatakis, New York.
31:31I'm a little surprised to see Representative Meliatakis on there.
31:35Huh. Interesting. OK. Anyway, there's also a Kevin Kiley, who's a California independent, but caucuses
31:45with Republicans. He voted for Democrats.
31:48Let's talk about this issue for a second, and then we can talk about more
31:52of keeping order on our side on the immigration issue and not letting this stuff
31:58slip away and not letting betrayals happen that will go politically unpunished.
32:03The idea that Haitians should get their protected status continued is on its face.
32:13Absurd. You'll notice that the statute or the statutory authority here is temporary protected status.
32:23Temporary protected status, as in it does not last forever.
32:28And yet temporary protected status Haitians have been here in this country since, you want
32:37to guess, say it out loud if you want, January 2010.
32:44january 350 000 people 350 000 haitians have had their had their temporary protected status
32:55extended over 16 years i think we're gonna have to change this we can't call
33:02it tps or temporary protected status because it is clearly not being treated as temporary
33:10dhs announced a termination of this for august 3rd of 2025 but a court stayed
33:16that terminated so the courts won't let us end it obviously some activist judge the
33:22democrats and even some republicans want to extend it why this is not supposed to
33:29be a backdoor immigration policy but that's exactly what it has been treated as as
33:36in we call it temporary but then they stay forever same kind of game they
33:40play with asylum oh they're just applying for asylum if they don't get it they'll
33:45leave they know that's not true when they don't get asylum they just disappear into
33:50the american interior they don't send they don't show up at their hearings it is
33:54a backdoor illegal way to get permanent status in america people say oh it's legal
34:00when they apply for asylum not when they don't show up for hearings which a
34:03huge percentage of them don't but how can we have a country when so much
34:09when one half of the voters roughly maybe it's less than half call it 45
34:14percent but certainly one of the two major political parties and a slew of ngos
34:20including taxpayer uh you know enabled if not funded ngos uh a slew of left
34:28-wing activist groups and they all want and of course the judges a lot of
34:34left -wing judges they want to make it impossible to enforce immigration law this can
34:40you can go back to plato's the republic on this is a law that is
34:44not enforced really a law does at what point does it cease to be a
34:48law i think we've seen this now tested many times over on on immigration and
34:55the uh the this extension of temporary protected status no the the american people were
35:00very nice very nice to allow 350 000 haitians to stay here for 16 years
35:08haiti has been an independent country i believe it's the second oldest democracy in the
35:14western hemisphere haiti has been an independent country for a long time and they got
35:21to fix their own problems so the extension of this clearly these some of these
35:27republicans i would think must have uh some haitian diaspora community or tps diaspora community
35:33in their district and so this is pure politics for them i would guess that's
35:37certainly the case for some of the uh like the new york representative that i
35:40mentioned but uh now this brings me to something else we we've had on the
35:44show and i'm i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this
35:48one but we have had on the show and and enjoyed talking to him uh
35:53former senator now dhs secretary mark wayne mullen uh who has seemed like a good
35:59guy i do not agree with some of his uh commentary about ran paul's attack
36:05just to be clear i think some of that was just over the line nasty
36:08now he's allowed he has the first amendment he's allowed to say it but i
36:11think it was kind of jerk stuff to say uh but put that aside for
36:15a second mark wayne i think aligns with this show on a vast majority of
36:23issues and that is what is most important to me for a dhs secretary that
36:28and competency i think christy noem had alignment because she just does whatever she was
36:33trying to do whatever trump told her to do which is fine did not have
36:37competency and of course had a lot of uh vulnerabilities shall we say politically and
36:44otherwise that came to the forefront so i'm i'm just going to say the dhs
36:49secretary mark wayne mullen went on fox news and he said this and i want
36:54to push a little bit a little little bit on this play 11 i take
36:57advantage of the united states generosity but the problem is is that we want immigration
37:02we want legal immigration people that want to make the country stronger we're a nation
37:06of immigrants we understand that kind of immigrants but the right kind i don't like
37:11that we're a nation of immigrants thing it's really not true we're a nation of
37:15americans actually i mean there are immigrants here who have joined the american family over
37:19time but this idea that because here's what this if we're a nation of immigrants
37:24do we become something else if we don't keep bringing in immigrants i think we've
37:29had too much immigration in recent decades i think the numbers bear that out quite
37:34clearly and i think that it puts major strain on the forces the societal uh
37:40political economic and historic forces that tie us together in what the ancient greeks would
37:47have called the polity right a political and ideological union some sense of a cohesive
37:53thing that is america and that binds together the american people and we know that
38:00we've been in europe they've been forced to really think about this if you have
38:03some uh country like sweden with 10 million 10 million swedes well if you put
38:095 million iraqis which you They didn't have that many.
38:11But if you put 5 million Iraqis in a country with 10 million Swedes, it's
38:14a different country. The place changes, right?
38:18So that people have had to see play out in real time.
38:20They can understand that. We've had far too much illegal immigration.
38:24We've probably had far too much legal immigration.
38:26Oh, no, I believe we have.
38:28People can disagree on that.
38:29But on the illegal side, and I think they'd be wrong for disagreeing, but that's
38:33OK. On the illegal side, there's no question that we have been inundated.
38:37We have been swamped with illegal crossings and overstays and other evasions of our immigration
38:45laws in this country. So we want legal immigration.
38:48Yes, as a general matter, we want legal immigration.
38:51The secretary of DHS is correct in that.
38:55Should we have a conversation about having less legal immigration at this point in America?
38:59Yes, we really should get to a this is just people who are contributing and
39:07making America better, more prosperous, safer, smarter, all of those things.
39:12And we better be really sure that that's what we're getting.
39:15And that means a slower and more vetted process.
39:19It means a lot less chain migration.
39:23I was just hearing from somebody the other day.
39:25Oh, you know, in my country, we my my parents or one of my parents
39:31won like a green card lottery thing.
39:33And now the whole family of like eight people is being sponsored to come here.
39:37So just understand when they say, oh, there's a green card lottery with I don't
39:42know what the number is, you know, the tens of thousands of people.
39:44Well, but but there's this whole effort then to bring the whole family, too.
39:49And that's often the case with people, whether it's they're here for a whole range
39:55of of different temporary lawful reasons.
39:59H1B visas is another example of this.
40:02Why will H1B visa holders take less pay than people doing the same work?
40:10Because they will. And we know that.
40:12Why are they more malleable to the wishes of management, hence why they are preferable
40:20for some unscrupulous American businesses in hiring?
40:24Well, it is because their status is tied to that visa, which means it's harder
40:30for them to move around.
40:31People say, oh, no, they can't.
40:33No, it is harder. But also they can get to the front of the green
40:37card line. And then if they get that, then they can start to try to
40:41sponsor more of their family to come in, which is a huge benefit.
40:45So, yeah, getting paid 15 or 20 percent under market to do clerical work for
40:49a few years. That feels a whole lot more attractive to somebody from a third
40:55world country if they think they can stay forever and then bring their whole family
40:59in here. This is why the immigration issue is, I think, the most important issue
41:04in the country right now.
41:05It should be the most important issue to voters.
41:08And the Trump administration has done some very good things on this.
41:12But the job is unfinished, to be sure, not even close to finished.
41:18So the DHS secretary, we're a nation of immigrants.
41:22That is a that is really a non -truth.
41:27It's not untrue, but it is a non -truth or is an incomplete truth to
41:31say about this country. And it plays right into the rhetoric of Democrats.
41:35They're the ones that have been saying this for so long.
41:38We're a nation of immigrants.
41:39No, really, we're a nation of founders, of pioneers, of builders, of people who came
41:46here without the promise of endless welfare benefits, without a DEI infrastructure ready to claim
41:54victimhood for them at the hands of America, even though they came to America because
41:59they have a skin color that falls into the protected classes of DEI here.
42:06It's a very different thing to show up in America today than it was to
42:11show up in 1920 or 1820 or 1720, for that matter.
42:15It's a very different thing that people face.
42:17And treating it as similar, treating a voyage on a wooden ship that ends up
42:25with people landing at Plymouth Rock, where they face death the entire voyage from disease,
42:30from shipwreck, from any number of things, as similar to I scraped together 200 bucks
42:35to get on a cheap international flight and now I'm in America.
42:39There's an insult to our intelligence that occurs with that.
42:43So we should not be going around saying we're a nation of immigrants.
42:49We're a nation that allows some immigrants and has had waves of immigration, but historically
42:54has also had stops in the immigration waves to allow Americans to be America, or
43:03rather America to be of Americans.
43:05That is a thing that happens in our history as well.
43:08So I want clarity on that one.
43:11I think Mark Wayne is aligned.
43:13I think he's going to do a good job, but we shouldn't be going around
43:18on TV as Republicans in this moment, I think, saying we're a nation of immigrants.
43:22Might as well say, oh, illegals do the jobs Americans won't do.
43:26Another thing that they love to say.
43:28Or immigrants have a lower crime rate than Americans.
43:30Another thing they like to say.
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45:24or wherever you get your podcasts welcome back in here clay and buck uh we'll
45:29have some of the cuts here from that uh we did we didn't play from
45:35that impromptu uh press conference if you will trump taking a whole range of questions
45:42outside of the white house with the uh chopper chopper going to the background get
45:48through the chopper and we have a bunch of you sending in all kinds of
45:55uh talkbacks and thoughts and we'll take some of your calls too on where this
45:59is all going but look you know that i'm i come from a background of
46:03somebody who saw things not going well put it mildly up close and personal in
46:10both iraq and afghanistan democrat and republican administrations i might add so anytime we're talking
46:16about war i just approach it with a um i i don't approach it with
46:21a pessimistic view i just it's very much a trust but verify situation for me
46:27because if we're going to put our people in harm's way if we're going to
46:30be using the military to take uh life thousands of lives uh abroad we should
46:36be asking questions and be darn sure it's the right way i have had my
46:42moments of um questioning and even some skepticism of some of what's gone on with
46:50trump and iran but if this embargo i'm sorry blockade if this blockade holds of
46:56just iran in the strait and so iran is no longer using that as leverage
47:02it becomes our greatest point of leverage against iran if that holds and their economy
47:10i would assume is going to start to spiral and then you add to that
47:14perhaps additional airstrikes not clear on what they would be i i wonder how long
47:21the iranians can hold on with that i think that they had assumed that there
47:25may be and again when i say the iranians it was it is true what
47:29that caller said before we're talking about the iranian government our our beef the world's
47:36beef but america specifically our beef with the and israel uh the iranians is with
47:42the security services the government the military it's not with someone who lives in a
47:49yeah uh modest house in isfahan or something and it's just trying to go teach
47:55sunday and not well not sunday school but teach well maybe but uh but go
47:59to you know teach grammar school is what i meant to say that that's not
48:02our that's not our beef we're not trying to hurt people who have had no
48:06effect on iranian policy and and in many cases want the regime gone of course
48:10as we know we saw that with those protests that were out in the streets
48:14um but this is let's go to cut 26 here for a second trump is
48:19sounding very positive here on this deal and the prospect for a deal play 26
48:27extending the peace fire with iran with who with iran uh we're doing very well
48:35i can tell you maybe it'll happen before that i'm not sure it needs to
48:38be extended just so you know iran wants to make a deal and we're dealing
48:44very nicely with them uh we've got to have no nuclear weapons if we do
48:48that's a big factor and they're willing to do things today that they weren't willing
48:53to do two months ago so he is straight up telling us that there is
48:58progress in the negotiations in terms of concessions the iranians are are willing to make
49:03now this could all be people part of the Iranian positioning, the Iranian play -for
49:09-time strategy, but I think that the reason Trump is out there saying this right
49:15now is because he knows, and this is what I'm seeing too, if this situation
49:21with the strait holds, the pressure valve is now really one way.
49:28The issues of the strait -of -hormuz have become far more powerful for the Iranian
49:33regime than they are for us in terms of the way to either sit this
49:40out or turn up the heat, whatever it may be, or wait this out, I
49:44mean. So that's where we are with the Iran deal.
49:47We'll see if it actually ends up happening.
49:50And Trump also has said that he would go to Pakistan.
49:53This was some news that was just broken a few minutes ago.
49:55This is 27. He says he would go to Pakistan to complete a deal if
49:59one is ready to be done.
50:01Would you ever go to Pakistan to deal the deal yourself?
50:04I would. I would go to Pakistan, yeah.
50:07Pakistan has been great. They've been so good.
50:09Islamabad, I'll be... I might go.
50:12If the deal is signed in Islamabad, I might go.
50:15The field marshal has been great.
50:18The prime minister has been really great in Pakistan.
50:21So I may go. And if he gets a deal, maybe Trump Tower Islamabad, but
50:26you'd know that better than anybody.
50:27It's a beautiful tower he'd build, the most beautiful.
50:31I've never been to Islamabad.
50:33I hear it's not great.
50:35But, yeah, Trump is saying that he would go himself because he would recognize, we
50:40would all recognize, the historic nature of that kind of an agreement, and he certainly
50:46wants to be there. He understands all the implications of getting this to that point.
50:52But I am more optimistic now than I...
50:56I still think there's going to be an extension of the ceasefire, to be clear.
50:58But I'm more optimistic that at the end of this, Trump is going to get
51:01something closer to what he wants than I was before because of the change about
51:08that we've been discussing today.
51:09Now, the Artemis 2 crew is talking about their moon mission.
51:18I'm not a big, like...
51:21Producer Greg, I think Clay also...
51:24Clay has more of the, and I mean this in a good way, the childlike
51:27wonder when it comes to space exploration and astronauts.
51:31Like, he loves all that stuff.
51:33And I am a little more like, okay, I'm glad we're doing big things again.
51:37And I'm glad that we are also really in the early stages of building out
51:46true space exploration infrastructure. Now, SpaceX is a huge piece of that equation.
51:53But getting us to go on this, or getting this historic moon mission done, it's
51:59cool. And, you know, there's a lot to go to.
52:02Producer Greg, do you want to come on and tell me, tell me why the
52:06Artemis 2, is he in studio right now, or am I catching him?
52:09I'm here. I'm here. He's not grabbing Shake Shack.
52:12All right. Producer Greg, producer Greg, Artemis 2, they're talking about this.
52:17Why should a salty old dog like me care that much about this mission?
52:22Sell me on this thing.
52:23It's about the human exploration and what we can achieve.
52:30The technology and the whole thing coming together, what it takes to produce something like
52:38this. I mean, a rocket like that going to the moon is probably the most
52:44sophisticated piece of machinery with so many different working parts at every one time, with
52:49so many points of failure that could happen.
52:52And the fact that they're able to get it to go together and to go
52:56to the moon, in this case, around the moon, and then hopefully in a few
53:00more years actually land on the moon again, just stretches us as people, as human,
53:10as Americans, and to show that we can do it as regain some of the
53:16pride that we lost. So here's, okay, producer Greg, I mean, I'm hoping NASA doesn't
53:20snatch you up to do comms for them because you're doing an excellent job explaining,
53:24as I said, the childlike wonder that so many have about that.
53:27But here's my thing. We've already been to the moon.
53:30We did this. So isn't this a little bit like the second person to summit
53:36Mount Everest? Like the first person, it's, oh my gosh.
53:38The second person, it's, okay, that was hard, but didn't we already get there?
53:43Help me with that. Okay, real quick.
53:45Who was the first person to walk on the moon?
53:47Neil Armstrong. Who was the second?
53:51I don't know. Buzz Aldrin.
53:53You don't, there we go.
53:54You've heard his name though, right?
53:55Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, of course.
53:56So I'm not like an astronaut hater.
53:58I'm just not as, I don't get as fired up about this.
54:01Here's my, here's my point.
54:02That, that just because this is the second time we're going, doesn't, just because Buzz
54:07Aldrin is the second person to step foot on the moon, doesn't make the accomplishment
54:10any less important or less significant.
54:13And two, two more things.
54:14This is a first step to get back to, to get to Mars.
54:18In order to do this, to get to Mars, what Elon wants to do, what
54:23Trump wants to do, what we need to be doing as a human species to
54:28expand ourselves beyond Earth, to stretch our knowledge and our boundaries.
54:32getting, getting, To the moon is the first step because the gravity is lighter, the
54:36opportunities for mining some of the materials we need, water and other things.
54:41It's a better place to launch from than Earth.
54:44So that's the next thing.
54:46So this is all a stepping stone to get onto Mars and beyond, to expand
54:51ourselves into the 22nd century and beyond.
54:55That was really good, Producer Greg.
54:57Thank you. Thank you. I'm quite sold on the prospect of this being very exciting
55:02to people. Well, thank you so much for that.
55:04So there you go. See, when you have, it's a little like a Scully and
55:08Mulder situation. You know, if you got a little bit of a skeptic about that,
55:10you got to bring in the believer.
55:12And Greg is a believer.
55:13And in this one, I was really just being honest with him.
55:15I wasn't pretending like when I pretend to hate hockey just to get him and
55:20Producer Mark all fired up at me because then they want to throw me into
55:23the boards and pull my jersey over my head.
55:26But yes, this was a big step for mankind, I suppose, even though we've taken
55:31the similar step before. Of course, that's interesting to me.
55:34I still think, thank you, Greg.
55:35That was great. I still think that it would be really interesting for Clay and
55:40I to get down to SpaceX.
55:42And I'd like to find a way to work that out.
55:45We've got to reach out to Elon's team and see.
55:47Because I have heard from people who have been down there.
55:50You know, I saw, I went and actually met with the Secretary of War and
55:57saw some of his team, as you guys know, at Cape Canaveral and saw the
56:02NASA facility there and the rocket.
56:04Oh, this is, I actually saw this rocket.
56:07I actually went and saw the rocket.
56:09That's right. All right. I'm pretty sure that was the one that I saw.
56:11It was about to be the one that they used.
56:13I have a photo of me standing in front of the Artemis II.
56:16I should have put that together before this.
56:18So, yes, I've been there.
56:20The Blue Origin facility was pretty cool.
56:24But, you know, I want to see the SpaceX facility.
56:27SpaceX, they're like the bad boys of space exploration.
56:31Like, they're just going for it.
56:32They're doing really cool stuff.
56:34So, I'm going to go check that out.
56:36And that will be something that we'll put on the radar here for the show.
56:40I think we'll have to put that ahead of the Greenland show, which now we
56:44don't hear about. Whatever happened to Greenland?
56:47Greenland was going to be ours, and now it's not.
56:49So sad. I thought we'd be able to go and check that out.
56:53I'm going to close out here with some calls, some thoughts from all of you.
56:55If you want to talk space programs, if you want to either reiterate, I think
56:59most of you are probably on producer Greg's wavelength.
57:02Like, this is amazing, this is incredible.
57:04And I do think space exploration is about to do incredible things.
57:07We're becoming more amazing as we go along here.
57:10And I think Elon is going to get us to Mars.
57:13We are going to become multi -planetary in our lifetime.
57:15I do believe that. And we have visionaries like Elon Musk who are just doing
57:22things that are truly amazing.
57:25So, that's all very, very cool.
57:26I'm sure a lot of you feel that way about this.
57:29But to me, they're like, we're going to get back to the moon.
57:31And I was kind of like, well, we've been to the moon, right?
57:33But, you know, still a big deal.
57:35Still very, very important. All right.
57:37If you're following news out of the Middle East, you know there are Israeli citizens
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57:48But there are still residents that have to scurry to bomb shelters.
57:50And some are injured and killed by these continuous attacks.
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