Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H1 - Crickets from Iran
4/25/202637 mincomplete
0:00This is an iHeart Podcast.
0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome in Tuesday edition, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show.
0:10Okay, we got so many different stories, as has been the case for some time,
0:16that we are all following, beginning with President Trump letting us all know that J
0:22.D. Vance is headed to Pakistan for round two of the negotiations.
0:28But President Trump called in to CNBC.
0:31We'll get into all that.
0:32Let me also give you a little bit of a roadmap of where we're headed.
0:35Hour two, Molly Hemingway has got a brand new book out about Justice Alito and
0:40also the behind -the -scenes story of the Supreme Court over the past several years.
0:45I think there's going to be, and already have been, many bombshells coming out of
0:49her book. Buck, Molly is super talented, wrote all about the Kavanaugh ridiculousness.
0:56I loved the reading of that story.
1:00Justice on Trial. That's right.
1:02Great book. Rigged, also a very, very good book.
1:06Very talented writer. I believe, if I remember correctly, her mom, big fan of the
1:11Clay and Buck show, if I remember the last time we had her on.
1:15Does it surprise anyone that her mom is also brilliant and loves Clay and Buck?
1:18Of course not. Zero surprise.
1:19So if mom is listening now, we are excited to have your daughter on in
1:24the second hour of the program, and congrats on having such a successful daughter who's
1:29got a brand new book that is selling a lot of copies, and we will
1:31discuss. Bottom of the second hour, Michelle Tafoya running for Senate in Minnesota, under the
1:38radar race there in a Senate seat that is currently held by Democrats, but is
1:44one of many that New Hampshire, Michigan, Georgia, Democrat held seats, any one of those
1:52flips in the midterms, and we are talking about 0 % chance of Democrats taking
2:00back control of the Senate.
2:01So we will dive into that with Michelle Tafoya.
2:03Remember, it wasn't very long ago that everybody was saying, oh, what's happening in Minneapolis
2:08is going to be the biggest story on the planet when it comes to the
2:13midterms, and instead, it's like, yeah, what happened in Minneapolis kind of has vanished.
2:19But let's go into the biggest story out there, which is everything surrounding Iran as
2:25we gear up for negotiation in Pakistan 2 .0.
2:29President Trump called into CNBC before the stock market opened this morning.
2:34Stock market, by the way, roughly flat, has not moved much on Monday or Tuesday
2:39after setting all -time record highs as recently as Friday.
2:46But President Trump had a lot to say.
2:48I'm going to pull some of these cuts.
2:50We will react to them, Buck.
2:51By the way, ton of talkbacks.
2:53Lots of you want to react to everything that we have already been talking about
2:56this week, and we look forward to those as well.
2:58Call 800 -282 -2882 if you would like to join us on this program.
3:03As Buck has said, thesis statements as you're open, the first 10 seconds defines your
3:10future as a caller. Own it.
3:12That was actually a caller, and I just stole from the caller because if you're
3:16calling in, I feel like we're allowed to use your intellectual property.
3:19He said, thesis in 10 seconds, and that was the phrase.
3:23And I think that that's a very good thing.
3:25By the way, people are saying, but I want to know, we need to know
3:29what you're talking about, and then we can help guide if things are getting a
3:33little long or we need to get into something.
3:35But if you're talking to us and you're taking a preamble and it goes 30
3:40seconds, then we get a little off the rails.
3:42Or 30 minutes. We have a lot of guys who call in, and the first
3:46thing they say is, my city or my state or my name is a little
3:49bit different. Nobody knows who you are.
3:51Make your argument. And then maybe you can be one day like Linda, and you
3:56can be driving American policy.
3:59Light him up, Linda. Oh, wait.
4:01That's a different Linda. Arizona Linda.
4:03Coast to coast Linda. We've got double Lindas.
4:05Double Lindas dominating the national political discourse by just calling this show.
4:10Okay. Trump saying, hey, we totally control.
4:14And by the way, we should also mention, as we discussed yesterday, if you are
4:18in Virginia, get out and vote no on whether they should redistrict and turn 11
4:25seats in Virginia from a 6 to 5 Democrat lead, which roughly equates with the
4:31overall voting population in that state, to 10 to 1, which is a radically gerrymandered
4:38congressional district, the likes of which does not exist in any purple state in America.
4:45This is the most aggressive redistricting attempt that we have seen anywhere.
4:50Okay. With that in mind, Trump, we totally control the Strait of Hormuz.
4:55This is the essence of the dispute at this point in time.
4:59The rift with Iran cut three.
5:01They killed 42 ,000 people over the last two months.
5:05And, you know, you get to a point where people don't want to mention that.
5:09They don't like mentioning that.
5:1042 ,000 unarmed protesters, innocent unarmed protesters, many of them hung.
5:15So we're not dealing with the nicest group of people, but we're dealing with them
5:19very successfully. And the blockade has been a tremendous success.
5:22They said two days ago, we will open the Strait.
5:25They said, no way. We're not going to open the strait until we have a
5:27final deal. No, no, we want to open the strait.
5:29They said we're not opening.
5:31We totally control the strait, just so you understand, for all the fake news out
5:34there. Yeah, and look, I give Trump credit here, Buck, for the use of the
5:38word control was used by some elements of the president's adversaries in some way to
5:44try to suggest Iran was winning the war.
5:47Obviously, we have a blockade in place.
5:48For those of you who have been following, and I understand it's kind of a
5:52confusing thing to be following legitimately minute to minute, the dispute in the strait right
5:57now, so far as I can simplify it, Buck, is the U .S.
6:01says they will not fully end the blockade until Iran agrees to peace plans.
6:06Iran is saying the strait should be open during the ceasefire, but if the United
6:11States insists on keeping its blockade in place, then Iran is not going to allow
6:16the strait to be open either.
6:18I think that gets to the essence of it, but so this is one of
6:22the big disputes. Your take, if at all, I think I sum that up pretty
6:26well as to where we are at this exact moment.
6:31Yes, I think that we don't really know where we are at this exact moment
6:35in the sense that the end of the movie hasn't happened yet, so it's very
6:40tough to say whether this is a great victory, brilliant strategic move.
6:46If we're not, we can estimate it and we can analyze where it stands right
6:51now, but I'm telling you, the Iranians, the one thing that I know they're really
6:57good at, meaning the people who are in charge there, is creating the grounds for
7:05endless talking where they just know they'll cheat as soon as they can, because they've
7:09had decades of practice at this, and they know that it's very hard to enforce
7:14things, right? It's very hard, once you've started to get to the table, it's a
7:18bad look when you say, we're in negotiations and then we're going to hit them,
7:22we're going to hit them again, we're going to hit them again, right?
7:24Then they start to look like they're the victims, meaning the regime are the victims.
7:27So, Clay, the one part of this that I should have known, or rather I
7:32should have tempered my enthusiasm a little bit, was Trump saying, oh, we're just going
7:36to blockade them and the strait is open.
7:38Not really. It's actually not really how it goes.
7:41So that part of it is still to be, now you could say, no, we
7:45do have the military power to project, and we can allow ships through, but yeah,
7:51if the ships don't buy it, if the other ships that are going through don't
7:55feel safe, it doesn't matter.
7:58And that's where we're in a little bit of a jam here.
8:02That's where things, or a lot of bit of a jam in the strait of
8:05Hormuz. So yeah, I think that Trump is, rather, Trump is doing what he always
8:10does, which is selling the end state, you know, selling the glorious victory a little
8:19early in this process, but there's still reason to believe that he can get us
8:23there. That's where I would put it.
8:25But some of my hesitation about this, Clay, from the very beginning, yeah, this stuff
8:31is really hard, actually. This stuff is very difficult to get where you want it
8:34to go. And the other side, I mean, Trump said, yeah, they've killed all these
8:38people. I keep pointing out, we say, hey, what about all the people that should
8:42rise up in resistance? They killed 40 ,000 people.
8:46Yeah. They weren't just killing protesters, everybody.
8:49When they're killing protesters in the street, they're sending the secret police, they're sending assassination
8:54squads to go after, it's a police state, they know who's talking, they know who's
9:00a problem, and they were liquidating resistance members during this, too.
9:04Of course, because if you were an evil tyrant, wouldn't you do that?
9:10The other part of this, as J .D.
9:12Vance travels to Pakistan, by the way, you want to talk about a tough trip?
9:19You imagine traveling, flying all the way to Pakistan to work 21 straight hours negotiating,
9:26turn around, leave, and then fly back to Pakistan?
9:30He can sleep on the plane on the river, it's not that bad.
9:34I don't know, this is not very fun.
9:37Here is Trump saying the ceasefire ends tomorrow, saying I do not want to extend
9:43the deadline. He's threatening that he's going to resume airstrikes.
9:47Here is Trump on the negotiations with Iran in Pakistan, and the deadline cut for.
9:54The deadline for the ceasefire is tomorrow.
9:57If it looks like things are progressing, will you not necessarily extend it to a
10:03definitive amount of time, but will you let it keep going if there's progress in
10:08the talks before taking? Well, I don't want to do that.
10:12We don't have that much time, because by the time both parties get there, as
10:15you know, they just got the okay to go forward, which I knew they were
10:18going to do anyway. I mean, I don't think they had a choice.
10:20They have to negotiate. Clay, I said at the beginning of this process, two weeks
10:26ago, and I said, mark it down.
10:28We're going to get to the end of the ceasefire, and we're going to have
10:31an awesome agreement to extend the ceasefire to talk about the agreement.
10:36Does anyone want to take the other side of that bet right now?
10:39I don't think so. I think the likelihood is, and I'll just say this, that
10:45we're going to see flare -ups here for the next few months.
10:51And, well, hold on, by the way.
10:53CNN is reporting that J .D.
10:55Vance has not yet left for Pakistan.
10:59I don't know to what extent or how long that flight is.
11:03Not short. But there has been some talk, Buck, that because it's a much.
11:09Like 12 to 14 hours?
11:09I'm trying to remember Afghanistan.
11:10It's like a 12 -hour, 13 -hour flight, I think.
11:14It's so much of a shorter flight for Iran to be able to get to
11:19Pakistan that there is some jockeying over, well, when are your leaders going to leave?
11:26Well, when are our leaders going to leave?
11:27Because I think one thing you don't want to do, Buck, is have J .D.
11:30Vance take off for Pakistan and then just turn around and come back to the
11:34United States before he even lands there, right?
11:37Because Iran suddenly says, well, the talks are off.
11:40We're kind of at a disadvantage.
11:42Sounds ridiculous, I know. But we're kind of at a disadvantage because our travel is
11:46such that when he boards the plane and starts his transit, Iran actually has a
11:52little bit of leverage to suddenly make us look bad, I'm just saying, by saying,
11:57well, we're refusing to go, and then J .D.
11:59Vance either has to go and potentially not meet, or they just turn Air Force
12:03Two around and he lands back in the United States.
12:08Are any of you feeling like, and I'm sorry, I'd love to sit here and
12:13just chant USA, USA and say that we've kicked ass and everything is awesome?
12:17We have kicked ass, but everything is not awesome.
12:20This is not done. And there's a lot that remains to be seen here.
12:25Do you feel like the Iranians are acting like people who are cornered?
12:29And when I say the Iranians, we all know I'm talking about their leadership.
12:33Does it look like they feel defeated?
12:35Like they have no choice?
12:37Like they are desperate for a deal?
12:41Well, I don't think so.
12:43Are we being honest about this?
12:45I don't think that it looks like they're desperate for a deal.
12:48So, you know, this is where things go.
12:50I don't know. Some of the people that spent a lot of time in this
12:53part of the world before this administration came along were concerned that this is going
12:58to be a, again, I'm not saying we're not going to get there.
13:01We might get there. But just want to level set expectations, as they say.
13:05It's not easy stuff. It's not as easy as just blow them up for a
13:09couple of weeks and then they'll do anything you want.
13:11Now, Trump knows that. I know that's an oversimplification.
13:14But we need to strap in here a little bit.
13:16The idea that we're just going to go in there, kick their ass, and then
13:19they're going to say, fine, what do you want, is not what is happening.
13:24That's not what is happening.
13:26For whatever we want to say.
13:27Now, maybe we bleed them out more, Clay, with the economic embargo or, you know,
13:31the blockade, fine. That's going to take weeks, maybe months.
13:35I think the challenge, and we'll get into this, I think one of the biggest
13:38challenges we're facing right now is there is still a battle for who has actual
13:44power inside of Iran. There is a bit of a power vacuum.
13:47And if you are seen inside of Iran as bending the knee too much to
13:52the United States, then your political adversaries in the state, in the country, are likely
13:59to try to wipe you out, right?
14:01So one of the biggest challenges I think we're dealing with right now is who
14:05is actually in control in Iran and who can make a deal, who has the
14:11authority to actually make deals.
14:13Remember, we still haven't even seen the Gayatollah.
14:16Like, we don't know where he is.
14:17We don't know what he's going to do.
14:19Counterpoint, Captain Optimism. And by the way, everyone's rooting for you on this one, so
14:22I'm having fun here. I get to put on the heel in wrestling.
14:26But counterpoint, we haven't seen a single street protest.
14:29We haven't seen any uprising anywhere in the country of any significance whatsoever since we
14:35bombed the regime to smithereens.
14:38We have seen nothing on the streets.
14:40We haven't even seen the beginnings.
14:42So they were willing to go out in the streets and face machine gun fire
14:45very bravely before we did all this.
14:47But now we've done all this.
14:49Where is our glorious uprising?
14:51Even the beginnings of it?
14:52Where is the ember that will start the fire?
14:54It's a great question. It hasn't existed.
14:57And early on, you could say it hasn't existed because we're bombing and there's nervousness
15:02and danger and fear from being outside.
15:06But now, two weeks of ceasefire, and there has been zero, as you said, embers
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16:27a world of crazy clay and buck have your back welcome back in to clay
16:33and buck let's take a quick one here because we got a fast turnaround chris
16:38from franklinton north carolina this is talk back b he listens on 106 .1 fm
16:43play everybody knows what a karen is and so i i think now that we
16:48have these strong free -thinking intelligent women on the right side and two of them
16:56are associated with your show and they're named linda so now women that characterize with
17:03those traits on the republican side should henceforth be referred to as linda's not bad
17:09i like it actually yeah linda is an american patriot trying to make things better
17:15um for everyone out there in the in the country and it's a paying homage
17:21to the different parts of the country uh that linda's have already had an impact
17:25on the east of the east coast and the west coast i'm with it i
17:29like it i like where his head's at on that one and we've got arizona
17:33linda we've got light them up linda both making fantastic contributions to this program and
17:39really to policy discourse in america today it's no doubt all right we come back
17:44we'll dive back into the iran situation uh which is never going to end also
17:48buck i don't know if you saw this uh i'll i'll lead with this senator
17:52chris murphy of connecticut cheering on the fact that iran might have had success against
17:59our blockade even though it wasn't actually true if you haven't seen this we'll talk
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19:03back in play travis buck sexton show uh okay um i mentioned that i was
19:08going to update you uh i don't know if we have um trey yanks reacting
19:15to this but there was a report out there from iranian sources uh that at
19:21least 26 iranian shadow fleet vessels bypassed the u .s blockade chris murphy senator from
19:29kentucky tweeted awesome after being obliterated online uh since last night he now came back
19:38and said okay twitter i can't believe i need to clarify this but obviously trump's
19:44bungled mismanagement of this war is not awesome it's a disaster he should end the
19:50war immediately my tweet was something called sarcasm uh i i know i know this
19:59is a little bit like when trump said i thought it was the doctor uh
20:03when he posted the uh the jesus video um and uh i do not believe
20:09that chris murphy senator from connecticut uh was saying sarcastically awesome although again it's a
20:18defense that i think you might need to get when you are being called out
20:22for being a traitor in fact trey yankst on fox news also said the story
20:29that he was reacting to was 100 made up so he's reacting to iranian disinformation
20:36online as a sitting u .s senator and cheering it on here is trey yankst
20:42on fox news discussing that listen the united states is allowing any vessels who are
20:48passing through this area to make their way to their final destination as long as
20:52they're not coming from iranian ports there were some reports overnight indicating that 26 vessels
20:58from iran's shadow fleet were able to make it past the u .s blockade there
21:02is no evidence of that and despite what one democratic senator talked about there is
21:07a concerted effort by the united states to ensure that any vessels that are coming
21:11from iranian ports are turned around or seized as we saw with that one cargo
21:15ship over the weekend so trey that was just iranian propaganda right yes absolutely and
21:20the shadow fleet that the senator is talking about is used to directly fund iranian
21:25proxies across the middle east including hamas the houthis and hezbollah who are directly responsible
21:30for killing u .s citizens and so the shadow fleet is a very serious problem
21:34it is not getting past the u .s blockade according to all reports and information
21:39that we have from the region but it is a very serious issue that the
21:42u .s navy says they will crack down on not just in the persian gulf
21:45but also around the world okay i you Do you think, Buck, this is kind
21:50of a new world that we live in where the Democrat Party has become so
21:56reflexively anti -America that a senator would react to Iranian propaganda, share it online and
22:05say it was awesome. And then after it's up for a full day and you're
22:11getting criticized in a significant degree, you come back and say, hey, you know what?
22:18That was sarcasm. I don't know.
22:21Look, I think this is a good question for you, too, because you went into
22:24into the government after 9 -11.
22:26And for all of you out there, I just I don't remember an era.
22:30You might not be happy with the choice to have gone to war in Afghanistan
22:36or have gone to war in Iraq.
22:37But I don't remember an era where someone would cheer for an adversary who is
22:44in the government. Can you remember that where somebody is just like, yay, like, I'm
22:48so glad that the person that is America's adversary is having success and then that
22:53you would leave it up for 24 hours and then come back after it's been
22:57proven to be Iranian, you know, lies, propaganda.
23:00And just try to say, oh, it was sarcasm.
23:03I mean, I can take you back to 2007.
23:05Nancy Pelosi and all of the Democrats she was leading in Congress were hoping for
23:09the surge in Iraq to fail, to stabilize the country.
23:12Well, that's why I was asking you, like, no, absolutely.
23:15I'm just telling you, you know, and I know people who are briefing.
23:18I know somebody who actually briefed Pelosi on data about the surge and how deaths
23:23for civilians, deaths for U .S.
23:25soldiers, attacks on U .S.
23:26soldiers are way down. And he described her reaction to me as disappointed.
23:32Because it mattered more that they have control here at home.
23:35Politically, she wanted the failure to, she saw it as an advantage politically, and so
23:39she was willing to have us fail.
23:41Was she saying it publicly?
23:44I mean, they were very clearly, like, they were positioning themselves with it has no
23:49chance, this is terrible, Bush has ruined everything, the whole thing.
23:52And then when it happened, it was we shouldn't have been there in the first
23:54place, this is all a disaster.
23:56So, but it was very clear to anybody in the government at the time that
23:59the Democrats were absolutely, and by the way, Obama ended up winning in 2008.
24:03I mean, you can see how all this was going.
24:05But they did not, they weren't even willing to be happy for the Bush administration
24:10that the absolute maelstrom of carnage in Iraq had been somewhat stabilized, somewhat stabilized in
24:212008 with the surge. So, yeah, no, there's plenty of, plenty of, many such cases,
24:26many such cases of Democrats rooting against American interests in the most clear and obvious
24:32way, as long as it benefits their power.
24:35I mean, the perfect example of this is they love the open border, they pretend
24:38not to, but we know they do because they open the border, right?
24:41Yes. So, there's lots of ways in which Democrats show you who they are voting
24:45for, or rather, who they are rooting for in this process.
24:49And as I said all along, when Obama got full credit as Commander -in -Chief,
24:54he did, for ordering the Bin Laden raid, everyone was like, wow, that was pretty
24:58amazing. They got Bin Laden.
25:00Nobody was saying, oh, man, I wish Shield Team 6 had to divert, and there
25:04were mechanical problems, and that they didn't get Bin Laden, and that they had to
25:08land in, you know, India, because they couldn't actually go into Pakistani airspace.
25:12You know, no. We were like, okay, that was good.
25:14So, this is the difference between Democrats and Republicans, among many.
25:17I will say the fact that he, after a day, felt compelled to come back
25:22and say, oh, it was sarcasm, is a sign that, even for Democrats, he must
25:28have been getting blowback, that he said awesome, because the fact that he comes back
25:32and says that it's sarcasm, I think that there was even the...
25:39But honestly, this guy, Clay, as our friend Mark Levin would say, backbencher.
25:43This guy doesn't matter. This guy's a clown.
25:46This dude away from, whatever, Murphy from Connecticut, he's a jerk.
25:51Isn't the other Connecticut Senator Blumenthal who lied about serving in Vietnam?
25:56This is quite the duo that Connecticut has brought to me.
25:59Now you're stepping into something.
26:02It's a little bit of a sensitive area for me, Clay, just because I love
26:05Connecticut as a state. I've spent a ton of time in Connecticut.
26:08The coast is beautiful. The interior is beautiful.
26:11Not a huge Hartford fan, but I love Connecticut as a state, and I want
26:15us to take it over, meaning I want, we need a plan here for Republicans
26:19from elsewhere in the country, where we can, like, you know, I need 10 ,000
26:24from Wyoming. I need 10 ,000 from Idaho.
26:28You know, we need to take over Connecticut.
26:31Get those two Senate seats.
26:32We should not have this communist madness running what is a beautiful state in New
26:37England, and it just makes me – Massachusetts, sorry, you're on your own.
26:40You're on your own. You got the Patriots at least, right?
26:43You're on your own, Massachusetts.
26:44Connecticut, though, I think we could flip Connecticut.
26:47We could Florida, Connecticut with not that many – I'll check right now.
26:50Not that many people moving there, and you would have an escape valve from New
26:55York – you're never going to flip New York.
26:56You have an escape valve from New York City craziness that's beautiful and well -run.
27:01I mean, I think that's the benefit that's occurred in New Jersey, right?
27:04New Jersey was within five points of flipping to the Republican Party in the 2024
27:10election, and what, Connecticut, to your point – As a New Yorker, I'm going to
27:15plead the fifth on New Jersey.
27:16We've got a lot of listeners there.
27:17I'm just going to plead the fifth.
27:18I'm going to plead the fifth.
27:18It would only take a couple of hundred.
27:20The bridge and tunnel crowd, you're not a huge fan of the bridge and tunnel
27:23crowd? Love my bridge and tunnel crowd.
27:25What do you think of people from New Jersey who come into Manhattan for the
27:29weekend? What is your take on it?
27:31You see what this is?
27:32Clay's just trying to stir up trouble right now.
27:35We need to fix Iran.
27:36I know enough. I know enough about the tension that exists between people who live
27:42in New York City and the bridge and tunnel crowd that comes roaring in on
27:47Fridays and Saturdays and takes over Manhattan and then rolls back out on the bridge
27:51and tunnels. I went to college on the East Coast.
27:54I know the tension is real.
27:55I will say, New Jersey on the East Coast, most hated of the states on
28:03the East Coast, I just don't know very many people outside of New Jersey who
28:08love, and now I'm really stepping into it, who love New Jerseyans.
28:13I'm going to tell you something.
28:13This is true, and I'm not just kissing up to New Jerseyans because, really, we
28:18have a ton of northern New Jerseyans who listen to the show on their way
28:22into New York and the tri -state area.
28:23That's not why I'm kissing up to you right now.
28:25If you look at surveys of state -by -state happiness for the people who live
28:31there, New Jersey actually does very well.
28:35There's a lot of ignorance around New Jersey from non -New Jerseyans because the 95
28:41corridor going into New York City is what is gross, and New Jerseyans know that,
28:47and The Sopranos is the most famous New Jersey show of all time, and that
28:50kind of gives a very specific slice of New Jersey.
28:54There's parts of New Jersey that are beautiful.
28:57There's suburban New Jersey. The Westminster, where President Trump has his place, is pretty fantastic.
29:02But everybody from New Jersey went to school at GW.
29:06So I feel like I know the entire state of New Jersey because everyone that
29:10could. You went to school with the bridge and tunnel crowd.
29:12Yes, that is who goes to GW.
29:14It's all people from Long Island and New Jersey.
29:16Entire state of New Jersey and all of Long Island went to school at GW
29:21when I was there. I know every single one of you that is from those
29:25areas. So here you go.
29:27By the way, total registered voters, I'm going back to Connecticut here for a second.
29:34Unaffiliated registered voters, 41%. Yes.
29:38Democrats are 35%. Republicans are 21%.
29:44And we're not talking about it.
29:45There's a total of 2 .3 million voters.
29:48A few hundred thousand people, we moved to Connecticut.
29:51I'm telling you, we get two Senate seats.
29:52It's, uh, this is not a crazy, this is, it is a crazy plan, but
29:57it's not the craziest plan.
29:58Bach, this is where people get nervous when they hear this plan of yours, because
30:02everyone listening to us on the West Coast is saying, this is what they're trying
30:06to do to Idaho. This is what they're trying to do to Wyoming.
30:10This is what they're trying to do for Montana.
30:12So many people from California, this is what they already did to Colorado.
30:16This is what they're trying to do to Arizona.
30:19So many Californians are getting frustrated by the situation and the cost of living in
30:24California. Go look at the numbers, Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, Utah, uh, Idaho, uh, Montana, Wyoming,
30:34the number of Californians that are fed up and are just moving a little bit.
30:38Also, by the way, people from Washington state, people from Oregon, just moving a little
30:43bit across the border. This is where a lot of people in the West start
30:46to get nervous because your Connecticut plan, they may actually be doing it on the
30:51Democrat side with so many different Western states that tend to vote red.
30:54This is why our Texas listeners, they look at Austin, which, which is, it's got
30:59great stuff in a lot of ways, but politically it's a mess.
31:03They look at Austin as kind of the breach in the wall, right?
31:06Because that's where you have such a concentration.
31:09It is the, it is the blueberry in the middle of the, uh, of the
31:12red soup, if you will.
31:14And, and that is the beachhead for Democrat madness.
31:18And unfortunately you have two things that often coincide.
31:20This is true in many States, a state Capitol with a huge university or a
31:24big university town. You often get commie.
31:27I'm sorry. Nashville. This is what you're describing the nervousness in my home state.
31:31So yeah, you get this, those two dynamics, uh, uh, you know, those two dynamics,
31:37um, Madison, Wisconsin, Madison's the capital of Wisconsin, right?
31:40I'm not messing that up.
31:40Am I? Yeah. Sorry. Wisconsin listeners like, how dare you?
31:44Um, by the way, Clay, uh, 2024 election to just give you a sense of
31:47how not crazy this plan is operation flip CT red, Kamala got 992 ,000 votes.
31:55Trump got 736 ,000 votes.
31:58Yeah. It's not many. A couple of hundred thousand people, my friends, a couple of
32:03hundred thousand people. And we could, we could flip Connecticut red.
32:07It's even easier in Vermont, but Vermont's like, you know, that's a, is it, is
32:12it? Yeah. Isn't it true that Connecticut is the lowest tax state in the Northeast?
32:18Uh, no, New Hampshire, other than New Hampshire, other than New Hampshire, the place that
32:22you could live and go to New York city without difficulty.
32:26I think Connecticut is, I have to check on Maine.
32:29Cause I have looked at this cause I've looked at places where we might escape
32:31in the, in the, uh, summertime.
32:33And I've, so I've looked at all the, the tax regulations.
32:35You're right now funding the entire New York city government.
32:39It's very sad. Um, New Jersey, New York.
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32:43Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey,
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32:43Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey,
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32:43Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey,
32:43New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New
32:43Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey Massachusetts, crazy
32:46tax situation. Yes. But I think Connecticut, of the places that you could live and
32:51still go into New York City without supreme difficulty, is the lowest tax.
32:55You're right about New Hampshire.
32:56It's like a tax paradise.
32:58New Hampshire, no state income tax, which is a great thing for the state of
33:00New Hampshire. I don't know the situation in Maine, but I would assume Maine is
33:03pretty high tax, too, actually.
33:05I think Maine's got a pretty big welfare state, unfortunately.
33:08So I'm telling you, Connecticut is the weak link in the communist chain in the
33:13Northeast. And Connecticut is beautiful, particularly in the fall.
33:18Beautiful state. So I know this is a dream of mine because I just don't
33:22like that New England, other than New Hampshire, New England is just Commieville.
33:26Like, how do we see?
33:27Now, Clay's whole theory is if we had settled west to east, nobody would even
33:31live. It would be like Wyoming in the Northeast.
33:33How dare you is all I have to say.
33:35How dare you? Whether, if we, this is a great take of mine, if we
33:39had settled the country west to east, no one would live in the Northeast.
33:44This is madness. I'm 100 % right.
33:47This is really, you know, I don't even know what to, sometimes with Clay, I
33:50don't even know what to say to him.
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35:16Clay and Buck, just preset them on the iHeart app.
35:19Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
35:21Let's get some talkbacks here, some quick ones.
35:23We'll get into it. We have Molly Hemingway up next, the brilliant, the wonderful, the
35:26talented Molly Hemingway. Is that next?
35:27Or is that, yes, we do.
35:28She's got a great new book out with a huge revelation about something relating to
35:32the Supreme Court you all need to hear.
35:34But let's get these talkbacks quick.
35:35Sean from Indianapolis. This is C, hit it.
35:38Just wanted to say, there's not going to be an uprising in Iran until somebody
35:43drops millions of weapons into the cities so the folks have something to fight with.
35:51That's all I'm saying. All right, interesting idea.
35:54Podcast listener Alex from Charleston, South Carolina.
35:56He's attacking Clay, so let's hear what he has to say.
35:59Play it. Hello, Buck. You are spot on, being a former militarily oriented.
36:04Clay, you're a drunken frat boy.
36:06I'm sorry. This is Alex from Charleston, South Carolina, former Marine.
36:12Any field grade officer in our service would have advised Mr.
36:16Trump that boots on the ground is going to be the only way to win
36:20this. But he didn't listen.
36:22We need to do boots on the ground.
36:26First of all, I don't even think drunken frat boy is that big of an
36:29insult because that's not a bad life.
36:31But I will say, especially at an SEC school, I will say, he's actually criticizing
36:37me and I have the same opinion on this particular issue as you.
36:41If we're not going to put boots on the ground, I think it's going to
36:45be very difficult to try to get any sort of substantial uprising based on the
36:50evidence that we've seen so far.
36:52All I heard was he said, Buck is spot on and then some shade was
36:56thrown at you. So that sounds good.
36:59Drunken frat boy hour next.
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