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1:05Clay Travis, Buck Sexton's show.
1:08We got a bunch we're following.
1:10Just so you know, FDA Commissioner Marty McCary will be on with us at the
1:15bottom of the hour. Brendan Carr, FCC Commissioner, was on with us in the past
1:21hour. Hillary Clinton testifying in the continued Epstein imbroglio, however you want to define that.
1:29Bill Clinton scheduled for tomorrow.
1:32Mortgage rates have fallen to a four -year low.
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1:40At least compared to the past four years.
1:43Mortgage rates under 6 % on the 30 -year, dropping to 5 .98%.
1:49Now, let's see. And that is where we are.
1:56Iran news. We're going to dive into Iran in a big way tomorrow to see
2:00whether or not we think there is going to be an attack that takes place
2:04in the near future. As talks have basically ended in the Middle East there.
2:10What do you think is going to happen, Buck?
2:11How are we going to start a war with Iran is really the question.
2:15Let's just put it out there.
2:16I think the answer is no.
2:20But I wouldn't bet a steak dinner on it.
2:22That's for sure. We've also got, and we were talking about this off air, a
2:27strange story out of Cuba that we may dive into here in a moment.
2:31Where a bunch of Americans were killed by Cuban army forces off the coast of
2:38Cuba. We'll get into that for a sec.
2:40But I wanted to give props to the state of New Jersey.
2:44Not necessarily happening all the time on the show.
2:47I know we have a lot of New Jersey listeners.
2:49And last night was the first opportunity for NHL fans to react to the U
2:57.S. men's hockey team that have been attacked, I think honestly kind of mercilessly, for
3:03visiting with Trump, for going to the White House, for laughing at his jokes, all
3:08of those things. And last night was the first time that real Americans had an
3:14opportunity to tell you what they thought about this whole controversy, in quotation marks.
3:22And here was what that sounded like.
3:25First of all, let me grab it here.
3:29I believe we have, do we have the audio of what it sounded like when
3:33they came out onto the ice in New Jersey?
3:35I thought we did. We've got a bunch of different story clips here, but I
3:39don't guess we have that one.
3:40And also, can we grab that then?
3:42We'll play it before the end of the hour.
3:44Producer Greg, if you can get the audio of Mikey Sherrill, the new Democrat governor
3:51of New Jersey, being booed in an uproarious fashion when she came out onto the
3:57ice. And also of Jack Hughes as he addressed the crowd and the cheering and
4:03the USA chants and everything else going on.
4:05I think the big story here that we are clearly seeing is that the vast
4:11majority of Americans love the U .S.
4:13men's hockey team and all of the sports media and all of the Democrats that
4:17have tried to be outraged over jokes and over all of the sundry aspects of
4:24this story are actually in no way, in no way representative of actual Americans.
4:32And I do think, and when you see the way that this response occurred in
4:36New Jersey, it is a pretty strong sign of exactly how everything went.
4:44I will say, well, let's cut 18 as a women's hockey player, Caroline Harvey and
4:51Layla Edwards. They just have spent a lot of time trying to make these women
4:55feel offended. And to a large extent, they are not willing to do so.
4:59Here's cut 18. We're just glad to be coming home with a gold medal again.
5:02I mean, we're focused on being successful as a group and going over there, taking
5:06care of business. And I mean, it's not something we're focused on or really thinking
5:10about. We're moving forward. And yeah, we did what we did there and we're proud
5:13of our group. And what happened is something we had no control over.
5:16And we take so much pride in what we did and we love our group
5:20that we're not going to let anything take that from us.
5:23So the sports media. losing whatever small shred of trust that they had in the
5:29larger sports fan ecosystem because they are just obsessively left -wing.
5:37And, Buck, this is one of the things I would say you learned when you
5:39started working with me is that these sports media are, I mean, they're further left
5:44than the political media. How is that possible?
5:48Meaning, how is it that they are somehow immune from the consequences of their woke
5:56idiocy when clearly a lot of sports fans are not into that?
6:02Really, is it just ESPN is so powerful and creates such a reverberation through the
6:09sports commentary ecosystem that they and other places follow suit?
6:15And so, it's just corporate kind of has their back?
6:18It can't be... It's a great question, and I've spent years grappling with it because
6:25it really didn't exist until Colin Kaepernick took a knee.
6:28And when Colin Kaepernick took a knee, suddenly, and I know a lot of you
6:32have experienced this, every single thing in the culture of sports became hyper -partisan and
6:39hyper -political. And what I think, certainly social media, as it exposed many political journalists,
6:47it has exposed a lot of other people.
6:49But I think, to a big extent, Buck, it is, and this is sort of
6:52a business analysis, it is the taking away of power of individual sports writers.
6:59Let me give you an example.
7:00When you were growing up, if you wanted to go read local sports news, you
7:05could get the New York Post, you could get the New York Daily News, you
7:08could get the New York Times, whatever local newspapers existed in your community, and every
7:13one of those writers had information that you didn't know.
7:17So, if you loved the Knicks or you loved the Giants or the Jets, you
7:21could sit down and hear what coaches and players said, and it was almost always
7:26straight sports stories. You know, it was, hey, how healthy is the quarterback?
7:30What do we think about the new linebacker?
7:32You know, those kind of stories, and everyone in those press conferences had a value.
7:39Now there is no value because news is commodified and it's instantaneously out there, and
7:45I think there's a desperate seeking of the sports media to justify their jobs.
7:50And the reality is most of them have no value.
7:53And I'm not trying to be insulting to them, but if you're just like, I
7:59mean, they're basically worthless. Like, do something else.
8:01Well, I mean, think about it.
8:02Like, I've got my yellow legal pad here, right?
8:04Back in the day, in 2008, you could get your legal pad out, and what
8:11someone told you that you could then write in a newspaper was news that wouldn't
8:17have otherwise existed. And so you had a commodity information that was rare.
8:23Information now is instantly out and available.
8:26Most of these reporters have no value for it.
8:28So what they, what is desired is opinion, but most of them are boring and
8:34not very interesting. And so you end up in a world where you have thousands
8:39of sports media writers, and probably there needs to be like 50 that are actually
8:46doing really interesting, good work.
8:48And I think AI is going to vanish so many of these jobs because AI
8:54can write better than most sports journalists can, and it can do it instantaneously for
9:00virtually no cost. So that happened.
9:03And then I think, to your point, being left -wing was a way to try
9:07to preserve your job. And if you weren't left -wing, it was a way to
9:11lose your job. And so you just end up with this echo chamber of one
9:15take, the left -wing take, being amplified everywhere.
9:19And I think people are just now learning it.
9:22And again, I would say, whatever you think about OutKick, it's far from, I mean,
9:27the site that I found, it's not perfect.
9:29But it's the fact that it's the only sports media company in the United States
9:32that would say men shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports is a sign
9:37of just how taken over by one view the sports media is.
9:42There was and is still no Fox News of sports.
9:46There isn't. I think there should be now, sadly, but there isn't the counterpunch to
9:51actually provide an alternative to the mainstream hegemony.
9:56So I think as a result, this story has really kind of exposed it in
10:00a big way. And I think most people would just like to go back to
10:03the 80s, the 90s, the early 2000s, when everybody could agree that the U .S.
10:08men's hockey team is awesome and that it's good to visit the president and it's
10:12not going to be remotely controversial associated with it.
10:15And I think most people believe it, but the sports media is doing their best
10:19to try to make it seem that that's not true.
10:21So I think it's important, thanks to this platform and others, that we push back
10:24on it. But I loved the audio, if we can get it, where you have
10:2820 ,000 people in an arena, let them vote.
10:31Let their voices be heard, even in a blue state like New Jersey.
10:35Okay, let's go to this.
10:37Let's play. We'll come back and we'll play some of that audio for you.
10:40Um, but let me, uh, let me go to this, uh, cause I want to
10:44get your take and I'll, I'll set us up here.
10:47What did, well, hold on.
10:48We've got now the audio of Jack Hughes cut 35 guys.
10:52If we. could play that this is so there he is that's a usa chant
11:09in the background people said oh he's going to have significant fallout for the comments
11:13and for going to visit the white house and the state of the union and
11:16then he skates out on the ice in new jersey and the whole arena as
11:20one chance usa usa usa um and so uh we'll play eventually the booing of
11:27the democrat governor mikey sherrill but let me go to uh cut one here buck
11:31because i want to set the table and get start to get your take here
11:34um what do you think about uh this story coming out of cuba uh cut
11:44one i believe discussing these americans that were killed at sea off the shore as
11:51it stands now the department of homeland security the coast guard others are involved uh
11:56the majority of the information we still possess is what cuban authorities are providing both
12:00the public and the u .s government um we have our embassy on the ground
12:04in havana working this as we speak asking for access to the people that were
12:09on those vessels if they were american citizens or permanent residents according to the cuban
12:13uh regime the boat was registered in florida we're tracking that down we will know
12:19shortly and we will know quickly uh many more facts about this incident than we
12:24know we're going to find out exactly what happened here and then we'll respond accordingly
12:28buck what's going on this is a weird story it hasn't gotten as much attention
12:33i saw it i read it it just doesn't add up that cuba would suddenly
12:37kill a bunch of americans off the shore so i've seen a lot of theories
12:42around this and nobody really uh is that that confident in what they think happened
12:49here a few things that come to mind one is that cuba is in a
12:53really precarious place right now even for cuba so to do anything that is antagonistic
12:59toward the united states which this clearly is seems very unwise which then brings up
13:05a little bit of a yeah a little brings up a little bit of a
13:08i mean marco rubio is like pretty much measuring the drapes in uh raul castro's
13:14office or uh diaz cannell who's technically running it but castro kind of still runs
13:19raul runs it behind the scenes um the other side of this is a little
13:24bit of a gulf of tonkin vibe maybe and i'm not saying i'm not saying
13:29that it was necessarily but i'm not saying it wasn't either where all of a
13:33sudden there's some incident maybe people are doing a little close recon or something and
13:38uh a little bit off book if you will they get shot up and now
13:42it's oh it's on so those are the things that come to mind it's not
13:46a drug boat why would cuba shoot up a drug boat makes no sense if
13:52it's just tourists why would they shoot up a boat of of tourists that's just
13:55gonna to the point about antagonize it's a u .s flag ship antagonize us uh
14:00some there's something up here that's that's what i think unless there's always the possibility
14:05of extreme stupidity on the other side and you shouldn't forget that i mean it
14:09is possible i guess that there just happened to be a boat that got too
14:13close and some cuban border guards lit it up and killed a bunch of people
14:16that's possible but it's quite a coincidence given the situation going on right now of
14:20cuba overall that's where i am on this i'm gonna say it and some people
14:24are gonna be mad about me saying it we should just take over cuba i
14:29am i am past it's been 70 years of basically ridiculousness with them 90 miles
14:37off the coast from us uh huge numbers of cubans have fled and continue to
14:43flee to the united states the population is down to eight and a half million
14:47or whatever it is now um there is a supreme court case that is actually
14:52very interestingly timed buck on the seizure of american assets as you know i i
14:57didn't remember this i was doing reading on this 90 of basically all cuban industry
15:03was u .s owned at the time that they seized every asset in cuba in
15:08other words back in 1958 or whatever year the cuban revolution officially took over um
15:13all of that was u .s assets we should make cuba basically a default u
15:20.s uh territory uh territory once again and i think we should just end this
15:25ridiculousness they have no military they have no ability to fight back wipe out the
15:30communist government once and for all um and uh and let's have capitalism in cuba
15:35and uh i think it would thrive i think it would flourish and i think
15:39the interaction between the cuban people in the united states and the cuban people in
15:42havana would be very positive i'm over the ridiculousness let's just do it yeah i
15:48mean clay there's a lot of people in south florida who agree with you that
15:52i know they're they're ready for a free cuba to actually be a thing and
15:56not just a drink yeah i know it just it feels like a no -brainer
16:01to me i don't want us to screw around and just keep this government hanging
16:04on by their fingernails they have no ability to stay in power now let's wipe
16:09them out once and for all and put in a capitalist free cuba uh that
16:14is an ally of the united states and in once and for all the idea
16:17of china or russia being able to have a satellite country off the border of
16:21Key West, effectively. Let's do it.
16:24I think now's the time.
16:27Absolutely. Clay is El Comandante.
16:31He's ready to lead the charge here.
16:33We can give Marco Rubio another job.
16:35He can be the president of Cuba, too.
16:37If you're going to be El Comandante, though, we've got to go back to Mustache
16:40Clay. I don't know, does Bearded Clay lead the charge in Cuba?
16:44Does Bearded Clay go to San Juan Hill?
16:47Does Bearded Clay get... I think we need Mustache Clay for that job.
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18:44No more sad sack. That's what I'm talking about.
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19:06And stream on Hulu. Welcome back in here to Clay Anbach.
19:10We're going to be talking to FDA Commissioner Dr.
19:12Marty McCary here shortly. Which I have so many things to talk to him about.
19:16The whole Maha movement in America is so important.
19:21It is truly, literally important to our health.
19:24And so I got a lot of questions.
19:27We're going to have to ask him.
19:29What do we have to do for Clay Travis?
19:32What do we have to put in Clay's stack?
19:34So that he too can bench 315 like Pete Hegg said.
19:36I mean, I just need to know.
19:38I don't think I have the physical ability.
19:40I don't think I can get that high.
19:43Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a lot.
19:45315 is a lot, I got to say.
19:48But maybe, Clay. There's new things coming out all the time.
19:51There's new and exciting things.
19:52I would even try. I feel like I would snap a tendon trying to get
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21:00He is the Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration.
21:03Dr. McCary, thanks for being here.
21:05Good to be with you guys.
21:07So we have so many questions to throw your way.
21:11And one of them that I wanted to ask you about actually has to do
21:15with the status of getting things expedited on the approval side of the equation here.
21:23Last time we talked to you, this was something that was a focus of yours,
21:27and even using AI to move faster on this.
21:31What can you tell us about, now that we're a year in, tell us about
21:35the FDA approval pipeline being more efficient, moving faster, not delaying?
21:42I mean, I'm here in Florida, and people are already talking all the time about
21:46Reddit True Talk. hi doc which is the g you know the next generation of
21:51glp this is all the rage down here people are already talking and i will
21:54hold on it's not even fda approved yet and a lot of people go yeah
21:58well if the fda is slow and i go well hold on a second what's
22:01happening here is it going fast is it going faster what's happening well look the
22:07fda was slow we have a very clear mission more cures and meaningful treatments for
22:11the american people and so we're doing things differently we are cutting idle time or
22:16reducing red tape and we have an announcement today of a new drug that was
22:21approved in 44 days that's unheard of typically it takes a year or so and
22:26so we're doing things at operation warp speed like speed we need to treat every
22:31potential cure and powerful treatment for somebody who's suffering with that same level of urgency
22:36so we're getting it done right now we have the fastest approval times in u
22:41.s government history and we're going to be moving even faster without cutting any corners
22:46on quality or safety i know you have a editorial that was up at the
22:51wall street journal about how you're trying to move quickly and in particular with rare
22:57diseases and this jumped out at me um rare i mean we know certain diseases
23:02that impact tons of people but this data roughly one in 11 people are impacted
23:08by quote -unquote rare diseases comes to about 30 million americans uh more common than
23:14asthma and type 1 diabetes combined is what you write um sometimes those markets are
23:20challenging because it's harder for drug companies to make substantial sums of money when they
23:25don't have a huge audience necessarily to uh to to treat what is the impact
23:31of the moves you've made there well you're exactly right when you add up the
23:36number of people with a rare disease it's like one in 11 americans it's not
23:41actually rare now the system was set up for common diseases at the fda but
23:46we're unleashing an entire sector of investment and research by creating incentives to work on
23:53rare diseases now some incentives existed but we were able to get the priority uh
23:59review voucher program which creates market incentives extends market exclusivity expedites reviews provides tax credits
24:07for clinical trials signed by president trump three weeks ago but we're not stopping there
24:12we have a new pathway called the plausible mechanism pathway where if the mechanism of
24:18the drug sounds plausible and it's an ultra rare disease you don't need to do
24:22a randomized trial just doesn't make sense and we also announce regulatory flexibilities we want
24:28to see companies thrive if you're working on a rare disease we want to see
24:31you succeed and what can you tell me uh doc about i was talking about
24:37glp1s before which obviously is a huge new drug class which has been approved with
24:42ozempic and we go be and all these things something like one in ten americans
24:45i think have already tried these there's all these other peptides that are all over
24:50the place and some people think that this is an important part of the future
24:53of medicine now i know that some of these are not fda approved but this
24:58is still in broad usage and people talk about this stuff all the time things
25:02like bpc157 for recovery you'll see people talking about this online is the fda going
25:09to look at these peptides run studies on them i'm just wondering where that stands
25:14because it seems like there's this big gray area right now of things that are
25:18certainly not banned but are not approved but are becoming in common usage because of
25:23the fda's the perception is the fda's slowness to see what's already happening yeah so
25:31first of all people ask me what do i think of peptides and i point
25:34out that the term peptides is a big tent it's like saying what do you
25:39think about molecules and there are some that are effective some that are not effective
25:44some that are unknown uh and many that are safe so we'd like to see
25:49the data we'd like to see research go into a proper placebo controlled trial so
25:53that people who are describing a benefit can have that benefit sort of codified in
25:58the medical literature and other people can benefit from it but we have not taken
26:02any restrictive actions on peptides unless they are direct copycats of drugs that other companies
26:09have put through the formal fda process and you gave the example of redditrutide which
26:13is a new weight loss drug uh there are copycat drugs out there while the
26:19phase three clinical trial is still going on and so we are going to take
26:23action when it is a sort of a knockoff of a drug that companies have
26:27put through the process properly we get a lot of questions sorry we got a
26:31lot of i'm just going to ask about food supply stuff now because that's obviously
26:35been a huge focus of rfk jr one of your colleagues here in the amaha
26:41movement uh trying to get uh improvements uh to well what's in the food supply
26:47what the guidance is about this uh how is the fda playing into that these
26:51days well look uh we have never been taught we have never talked in the
26:57medical establishment about the root causes of our chronic disease epidemic instead we just blame
27:02patients for being sick but it's not a willpower problem we have to look at
27:07school lunch programs and the microbiome and we rewrote the food pyramid because the open
27:13secret was that old food pyramid was We're talking about the importance of protein that
27:18you get from foods like steak and other meats, poultry, fish, nuts.
27:23You don't need to tiptoe around natural, healthy fats in your diet.
27:27So we're telling people the truth, and it's going to inform all of the government
27:31purchasing that is done through SNAP and other programs.
27:34In the Trump administration, for the first time, we have SNAP waivers now.
27:38Taxpayer dollars don't have to go to sugary drinks and ultra -processed junk food.
27:43We're talking to FDA Commissioner Chair Marty McCary.
27:47One of the things we get asked about a lot, Buck's got a young son.
27:50I've got three kids, but this is a common topic among parents.
27:55Why do so many kids today have allergies, and what is causing that?
28:01I know you've kind of started to look into this.
28:03What should parents know? Well, there are some things every parent should know, but it
28:09is amazing, Clay, that when we were growing up, I don't remember a single person
28:14with a peanut or food allergy.
28:17And there was one person I met when I was young who had a food
28:22allergy, but it was mild.
28:23Look at where we are today.
28:25What happened? One in 10 kids now has a peanut or food allergy.
28:29Well, part of it may be something that's unknown, that is, changes to the microbiome,
28:34but the modern -day peanut and food allergy epidemic may have been ignited by bad
28:40advice from the medical establishment.
28:42About 25 years ago, the American Academy of Pediatrics told folks and disseminated across the
28:48country that kids should avoid peanut butter until they turn three.
28:51They thought that would reduce the risk of peanut allergies in the future, but they
28:55got it perfectly backwards. You reduce your risk of a peanut allergy later in life
29:00through early introduction, as soon as a kid can eat at five, six, seven months
29:06of age. Early introduction and a sustained introduction of a little bit of peanut butter,
29:12a little bit of milk and eggs and other allergens.
29:16It's called immune tolerance, and every parent needs to know best practices on this, which
29:21is why we put together an FDA roundtable yesterday that parents can watch on this
29:25topic. Is there any reform that is underway to try to make it so that
29:32things can, I mean, I was talking about moving more quickly in this process, but
29:37just getting information out to people about what the FDA is looking at.
29:42I mean, obviously, you're on this show, and you're the commissioner, and a lot of
29:44people listen to this show, but I think that I get questions a lot, Dr.
29:49McCary. I'll just put it to you this way.
29:51When's the FDA going to do this?
29:53In the next six months, are they looking at that?
29:55Are they still moving on this?
29:57How do people best find this stuff?
30:01Or things like immunizations, for example.
30:03I have so many listeners who want to know, are they looking into this?
30:07Are they going to have more recommendations about the immunization schedule?
30:11Things along those lines. How are you getting the information out there?
30:16Well, great question. I've been in office about 10 months, and we've announced 45 major
30:21reforms. We've had numerous roundtables where we're telling people the truth, like telling women the
30:27truth about hormone replacement therapy and the profound short - and long -term benefits.
30:31And there's actually a poll on the supply chain right now of hormone therapy.
30:37Since we've removed those scary black box warnings, we're doing it with testosterone.
30:41So many topics we're putting out there on our social media channels.
30:44People need to know the truth.
30:46And when it comes to peanut and food allergies, I want every parent to know
30:51that you can significantly, by over 80%, reduce the risk of your kid developing one
30:56of these allergies through early and sustained introduction, we got a little boy at home.
31:01He's about eight months old.
31:02We started introducing a little bit of peanut powder, a little bit of peanut butter,
31:07a little bit of milk, milk, a little bit of eggs early, as early as
31:11five months. And that is critical in reducing the risk of allergies amidst this modern
31:17-day epidemic. What do you think, I know we've had you on a lot over
31:23the years surrounding COVID, and I know it's been six years now, and you were
31:28in the midst of all the COVID fight and everything else.
31:31But it feels like, to me, everybody just wants to pretend the whole COVID shot
31:36era never happened. That there weren't all these demands that you didn't have to carry
31:41around your papers. What is the, and COVID this winter seems to, I think the
31:46flu, you would know better than me, I think the flu has been more prevalent
31:49this winter, and it's actually been a pretty nasty flu, than COVID even, you would
31:55know better than me as head of the FDA.
31:58Where are we now with COVID and the COVID shots and the interplay with the
32:03flu here in winter? Well, you're right.
32:07Influenza was much more common this current season than COVID.
32:11And the flu shot didn't work very well.
32:14It wasn't really a match for what was circulating out there.
32:17You know, Clay, I look back, and what a disaster the public health response was
32:24to COVID. Shutting kids out of school for nearly two years, cloth masks on toddlers
32:29for three years, COVID boosters in perpetuity.
32:33I mean, they literally had a program here at the FDA to approve COVID boosters
32:38every year in perpetuity for young, healthy kids without any clinical trial.
32:43I love to say anything about the FDA, but I love to say anything about
32:43COVID -19. So for sure.
32:43Yeah, just to be a big number of things about it.
32:43data. We said we're getting back to gold standard science and we're keeping to Bobby
32:47Kennedy's promise. We're not going to take anyone's vaccines away, but you're seeing a significant
32:52renaissance now where people are recognizing where the risks are really are, what the core
32:57essential vaccines really are. And by and large, young, healthy people are not taking that
33:02COVID booster every year. What else is top?
33:06I mean, we've covered a lot here.
33:08Dr. McGarry, whenever you come on our show, it's like the rapid fire because we
33:11just have a lot of questions.
33:12And obviously, we know you from when during COVID, you were a voice of sanity
33:17amid so much craziness. And so we have tremendous respect for what you did then
33:21and what you're trying to do now.
33:22But is there anything, just quite honestly, is there anything else that all the folks
33:27listening, a lot of parents, grandparents that you're working on, that's a core goal of
33:34the FDA, as long as you're in charge, that they should know about?
33:39Well, thanks for asking, Buck.
33:42Look, I want to be very clear with everybody.
33:44We want to see a cure for type one diabetes in the current Trump administration.
33:48We want to see a powerful treatment for stage four cancer for certain GI cancers.
33:54There's a priority voucher that's been issued to an amazing treatment that melts cancer away
33:59in the GI tract for the five to 10 % of people with a certain
34:02mutation. We want to see a powerful treatment for PTSD.
34:07Many of our soldiers are still dying, even though the wars are over.
34:11Our men and women are still dying.
34:13The battle is still raging in their minds.
34:15We owe it to them to have a powerful treatment.
34:17We're going to see what those clinical trials show.
34:19And we'd like to see a universal flu shot.
34:22So you don't have to guess every year what the strain is going to be
34:25and sometimes get it wrong like we did this year.
34:28You can get one shot for life that gives you broad protection without the annual
34:32flu roundup. How do we get Clay to be able to bench 315, Dr.
34:36McCary? Is there anything in the pipeline that can help Clay get to 315?
34:42Gosh, we could we could check his testosterone level, but I can't imagine he's low
34:46on it. But if he were, there we go, I'd have some ideas.
34:49No, Clay, Clay is nodding in agreement.
34:51He's got no worries there.
34:53But 315 is pretty heavy.
34:54Our secretary of war did it.
34:56I mean, that's a big that's a big number.
34:59Well, Dr. McCary, I really appreciate you being with us.
35:01When I go to the gym, go ahead, go ahead.
35:03When I go to the gym, it's more like rehab than it is a workout
35:06compared to what bucks. Yeah, I'm really I'm more of I'm turning into more of
35:11a stretching guy these days, Dr.
35:13McCary, than a bench guy.
35:14You know, that's really trying to keep my back limber.
35:16So yeah, doctor, appreciate you as always.
35:19Anytime, anything priority that we can help get the word out about what you're doing
35:23and Maha and FDA and everything else.
35:25Please just let us know.
35:27Good to talk to you.
35:28All right. Love you guys.
35:29Thanks a lot. That is Marty McCary doing great work.
35:32And I really am never going to forget how many few how few the numbers
35:37were, Buck, of people that were in the trenches six years ago during COVID pointing
35:42out how crazy this is.
35:44And I still I mean, I know it's been six years.
35:47Every time I fly, the number of people still wearing masks is it's staggering to
35:52me. Well, look at you, you random sports bro.
35:54I was doing a political show.
35:55You're doing a sports show and produce a mock who's actually like a normal American
36:00who loves sports was like, you've got to find this sports guy named Clay.
36:03And I was like, who?
36:04And he's like, Clay, he's really good on masks.
36:07Clay, there were so few people who are good on masks that I had to
36:11go after the sports guy who knew that masks didn't work.
36:16I just and here we are.
36:17I mean, I happily ever after.
36:20Yeah. But six years later, there's still a lot of people walking around in masks.
36:24And it's like people forget about everything that we went through.
36:28And I'm still pretty radicalized, I think, over this.
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