Hour 1 - Swalwell's Political Collapse
4/14/202637 mincomplete
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0:02Guaranteed human. Welcome in. Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
0:09I am filled with optimism as we begin the show.
0:13We're going to have some fun.
0:15We've got a great show coming your way.
0:18But let's start with some news off the top.
0:20Eric Swalwell looked like he was going to be potentially elected the next governor of
0:26California. Then revelations began about him.
0:30And his inappropriate behavior. Allegations of criminal behavior.
0:35And now not only has he dropped out of the governor's race.
0:39But he is dropping his congressional seat as well.
0:42Also another Republican is dropping his congressional seat as well.
0:47Down on the border in Texas over similar allegations of impropriety relating to women.
0:55We will discuss that I'm sure as the program proceeds.
0:59The Iran blockade seems to have been quite effective.
1:05The crude oil price continues to decline.
1:10And stock market. As you all know I love watching the stock markets.
1:15The S &P 500 is approaching an all -time high.
1:20And the Dow is also approaching an all -time high.
1:24Both of these markets moving near record highs.
1:28So if you just didn't panic as we always say to you.
1:32Don't panic. And you just held on to your stocks during all of the Iran
1:37situation. During all of the big tariff implosions.
1:42If you just held on to your stocks and said I trust that Trump is
1:46going to get the economy roaring.
1:48You are in a good spot.
1:50Congratulations. Your stocks. Your 401k.
1:54Your retirement is near an all -time record high.
1:58If you are holding on to those stocks.
2:04Also we have Buck Sexton with an all -time take on pants.
2:10Which we can have some fun with.
2:12Because I've got to take it.
2:13I actually think there's tons of people out there who will have interesting takes on
2:16this. Let me just put it out there as an idea.
2:19And we'll come back to it a bit later.
2:20What still exists. And should not exist.
2:25Because it has been technologically replaced.
2:29I .e. There is something better than it.
2:32Buck says drawstring pants infinitely better than zipper and button pants.
2:39Because really I read it this morning.
2:41And actually Jesse Kelly our friend was responding.
2:44But it also got me fired up.
2:46I've been making this argument for a long time.
2:49Chopsticks shouldn't exist. Every time I go to an Asian restaurant.
2:52They bring me out chopsticks.
2:54And I just say can I have a fork.
2:56The fork is a far better implement than chopsticks.
2:59This is not some cultural attack on Asia.
3:02But the fork is better than the chopsticks.
3:05And so what are good.
3:06Do you sign off. I understand people show off.
3:09And they're like oh I can do my chopsticks.
3:10But the fork is better.
3:12It like is better. It's better to use.
3:14It's reusable. It's just a far better way to eat than the chopsticks.
3:19How did we go from my very important drawstring pants announcement to chopsticks though?
3:26This is just things that are better.
3:27When I saw your drawstring pants argument that they're superior.
3:32I was thinking I bet this audience has things that they believe are superior.
3:37For instance I'll give you another one buck here.
3:39As we have some fun starting off the show.
3:41Very optimistic mood. I don't think we failed when it comes to the dash on
3:49heating and air in cars.
3:51Blue to make it cooler.
3:53Red to make it warmer.
3:55Was perfection. I get in cars now.
3:58And many times it's incredibly difficult to figure out how do I turn on the
4:03heater or the air. We had it solved.
4:05And we've continued to technologically change it.
4:08But it's not as good as it was when you just twisted to the blue
4:13or to the red. And everybody knew how to work that.
4:16We've talked about this before.
4:18And I think it's a Nate Bargatze bit.
4:20But hotel room lights. How about a switch?
4:23How about a switch by the door?
4:26Light on. Gimmer. Light off.
4:29Maybe. Maybe. If we want to be spicy.
4:32We put a light by the bedside for reading and bedtime.
4:36That is it. I stayed in a hotel recently.
4:40And I basically count them up in my head.
4:42I talked about this on the show.
4:43There were eight different light switches in this place.
4:46And some of them are partial.
4:48And some of them. I'm like, who?
4:49I don't want to have to read a manual to turn the lights off at
4:53night. Yeah. I agree. And so anyway, out there, you can give us talkbacks.
4:58What has been better and could be fixed going forward?
5:02But, Buck, as we start, it appears that the situation in Iran, is there are
5:09reports that there could be talks again on Thursday.
5:12Okay. I feel bad for Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff, and J .D.
5:17Vance if they have to get back on a plane and fly all the way
5:21back to Pakistan for more talks after they...
5:24were there for 21 hours of talks and then turned around and came back.
5:28There are reports out there that the United States is saying we want 20 years
5:34of you guys ceasing to pursue nuclear weapons and that Iran has offered five years.
5:41Now, the challenge with this, Buck, as you can well imagine, and I'm sure all
5:45of you out there are going to recognize as well, is Iran has been lying
5:50for decades about everything. So whatever they agree to is unlikely, in my opinion, to
5:58be upheld. And so whether they say they're going to do it for five years
6:02or 10 years or 15 or 20 years, I am quite confident they are lying,
6:07which is why my solution here is we have to in some way grab what
6:13Trump called the nuclear dust, the uranium deposits that they have, in order to push
6:19them back further. I imagine, Buck, even based on your time when you were with
6:24the CIA 20 -some -odd years ago, Iran has been lying to us for the
6:28entirety of the time that they have had.
6:31The Ayatollah is in charge.
6:33And so nothing that they say to us now do I remotely believe is honest.
6:38So them saying anything is not good enough.
6:42We either have to get the uranium if that's our goal, and on the Strait
6:45of Hormuz, we have to just see everybody coming through and the oil and gas
6:52tankers being able to traverse.
6:54We have to actually verify, in my opinion, that they're saying anything honest.
6:59Is that a fair assessment in your mind?
7:01Yeah, look, this reminds me of the whole Iraq situation insofar as the policy or
7:10the strategy of Saddam Hussein was essentially, I don't know, maybe he got nukes, maybe
7:16I don't. Maybe I got chemical weapons, maybe I don't, because he found value in
7:21that strategic ambiguity. And then when it came time for us to make decisions about
7:27what he had and didn't have, it was really, obviously we got it wrong, but
7:32it was really hard to sift through what was a bluff and what was reality
7:36because he thought that was particularly after the Iran -Iraq war, which is probably the
7:42most devastating war of the 20th century that nobody ever talks about, right?
7:47Yes. I mean, obviously there are much bigger, more devastating wars, but for a war
7:50that is completely wiped from the memory banks of certainly people in the West, it
7:57went on for eight years, nine years actually, and it was hundreds and hundreds of
8:03thousands of casualties. And this changed the dynamic in the Middle East dramatically in the
8:10security calculations specifically for Iraq and Iran, as well as other regional players.
8:15So yes, the notion of, here's the problem with an Iranian deal, there's no deal
8:21that you can have that you can trust that does not in some way have
8:27us with our boot heel on the side of their face, really.
8:31I mean, we have to be in a position to say, all right, we don't
8:35believe you, so now we're going to go check the stuff.
8:37This is the intrusive inspections component of this, which we went through with Iraq too,
8:41by the way. And sovereign nations, good guys, bad guys, doesn't really matter, generally don't
8:47really want people to be able to just show up and look at all of
8:51their stuff, right? If there's something that they think is degrading about this, and certainly
8:55the Iranians would find it degrading to have America, and so really they view it
9:00as Israel's proxy, able to just show up and look at all their nuke stuff
9:03whenever we want. So, Clay, this is where we come down to, there's not really
9:09a deal to be had here, folks.
9:11There's not really a deal, because even if we do get to, and remember, you
9:15can pull that clip later, if we do get to a deal, even if we
9:18have some deal with the current regime, they will break it.
9:21Yes. And this is the problem with the whole Obama approach to all of this
9:26too. This is why I want the tangible, to the extent that we can seize
9:31it, the tangible uranium deposits in our hands, right, in the control of the United
9:36States. And some people out there aren't happy about that take, but to me, I
9:41don't see any form of resolution that you can rely on other than that as
9:47a way to conclude this if the goal is to try to ensure that Iran
9:52doesn't continue to pursue nuclear weapons.
9:55Now, again, the area that we struck in June, we have optics, we have eyes
9:59on, we have recognition if Iran tries to go reclaim those materials.
10:04So, I suppose the argument can be, we know what we've got there and it's
10:09secure, but if we want to have a full -throated victory, one that everyone recognizes,
10:16even the New York Times editorial page, and even MSNBC and CNN commentators, if Trump
10:23brings the uranium out of Iran and says, we have seized it, they cannot use
10:28this anymore, I think it will be very hard to argue that this was anything
10:32other than a supreme success, right?
10:35If we leave it, then the people who don't like Trump are going to argue,
10:39oh, we didn't accomplish anything.
10:41I do think, and I've been saying this for some time, you know the stock
10:45market is doing well when it's not shown on MSNBC or CNN.
10:50We're near record highs. when you come toマ supplemental and see whether you're gonna miss
10:52it. So, The markets are judging the Trump economic situation as a very positive one.
10:58And I do think that is significant overall as to the likelihood of where we
11:04are headed. What do you think?
11:06Do you care if we actually have the uranium in possession?
11:09Or in your mind, if we say, hey, we've got eyes on it, we're going
11:14to watch it, and we just pull back and this thing ends and the traffic
11:19returns to some form of normalcy in the Strait of Hormuz?
11:21Is that satisfactory in your mind, or do you also want to see the tangible
11:28asset of Iranian nuclear pursuit in the control of the United States?
11:34This thing is not over until we have Iranians winning an election with people who
11:43are willing to sit down with the leadership of the United States and Israel with
11:49smiles on their faces and talk about how to make Iran a regional ally and
11:54a peaceful and prosperous place without all this lunacy.
11:57That's the real truth. This thing doesn't really end until that day.
12:01And I don't know where that day is.
12:02But it may not be in the life of anybody living today, to be fair.
12:06In the meantime, you have a situation where we're just...
12:12Trump has done a lot more than anybody before him, but to truly end this
12:17threat... When Trump says Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, and that's his goal,
12:22think about what that really means.
12:24It does not mean we sign a piece of paper with Iran, they still have
12:29some enriched uranium, or even the technical know -how to enrich uranium in the future,
12:34and the people... What happens in two years, everybody?
12:38What happens... I know we can't even think this stuff right now.
12:40What happens if a Democrat wins the next election?
12:42Yeah. The Iranians will run circles around the next Democrat administration, because all they're going
12:47to want to do is play the big peacemaker and say, big, bad, mean Trump
12:50did all these bad things to you, so we'll bend over backwards.
12:53We'll give you taxpayer cash.
12:55We'll show up with pallets full of dollar -dollar bills, everybody.
13:00Anything to make it seem like the Democrats are the peacemakers with Iran.
13:05So these are all the layers of complexity that come to bear.
13:08I'm really just thinking about this in a six -month, well, I guess more like
13:11eight in front of the math, nine -month timeline here, of how does this play
13:15out between now until the midterms?
13:17Because if you try to think about what this really means long -term, you'll drive
13:21yourself crazy, because nobody can really know, and there's too many variables for anyone to
13:26be able to properly assess it.
13:28But really, this is, can Trump win this round against Iran and substantially delay their
13:34nuclear program and nuclear progress through it all?
13:37Regime change is not on the table.
13:39It's not happening. So that's where we are.
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14:19I was reading over the weekend that Alito has not hired his clerks fully.
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16:12Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
16:14So we've got a lot of talkbacks, a lot of calls.
16:16We're talking about the Iran situation.
16:17I've got to say, I didn't want to bring Clay down on it.
16:19He came on the show.
16:20Let's go. in a particularly good mood today so i don't know did did a
16:23sports ball team win is your bracket particularly good what's going on you're dancing on
16:29clouds stock market's setting record highs um and the price of oil and gas has
16:35come back i feel like you can start to see a pathway to a positive
16:42ending on this that's going to happen sooner rather than later and um and so
16:47yeah just uh doing all my reading and getting ready we've gotten to the point
16:52where the attacks now on trump have gone back to the 25th amendment which is
16:57just hysterical because i don't see how anybody who came through joe biden uh can
17:03be in this situation i also think sometimes you ignore uh and i don't mean
17:07you i don't mean me but we as a group uh of people just don't
17:13don't pay enough attention to awful people getting like tim walls is done right governor
17:20of minnesota eric swalwell is done awful congressman nancy pelosi is finished there's a lot
17:27of people out there who have been wrong on a lot of issues that there
17:31is finally being some form of verdict brought to bear on their wrongness and i
17:37think sometimes all of these positive things get snowed under in the midst of a
17:43uh a deluge of negative news which is what gets most of the attention so
17:48i think things are going very well um and so i just uh i'm in
17:51a good uh good spot your optimism is great keep it going keep it going
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18:57america's wireless company welcome back in clay travis buck sexton show eric swalwell's accuser is
19:06now speaking out in california beverly hills uh we will monitor this and add any
19:13audio uh as i said uh that may be particularly newsworthy as i said off
19:19the top um swalwell is now out in congress too and this is pretty staggering
19:27downfall buck as these things go on friday right before the san francisco chronicle story
19:33came out eric swalwell on the polymarket election markets was a substantial favorite to be
19:40the next governor of california which is a hugely prominent political position he was favored
19:47to win that election and now he is out of congress he is out of
19:53the governor's race and potentially he could be facing criminal charges depending on what this
19:59individual who is now going public uh is saying about eric swalwell and his behavior
20:07and i do think at this point in time buck the question is are there
20:12others connected to swalwell who may be in positions of political prominence that also are
20:18going to end up getting caught in this uh this fallout because swalwell was protected
20:25for a long time and you and i were just talking about this off the
20:29air he's on cnn all the time he's on msnbc all the time he is
20:35one of the foremost attackers of donald trump out there he didn't go down for
20:40having a sexual relationship with a chinese spy which still seems really significant in terms
20:47of his ability to be on the house intelligence committee which he was that didn't
20:53take him down fang fang and now uh suddenly right before ballots go out i
21:01think steve hilton told us yesterday we're three weeks from ballots going out early voting
21:05starting on the gen june third primary in california his career is over and he
21:12may be facing criminal criminal charges whatever you think about swalwell this is a unprecedented
21:18level of political collapse i don't know that we've ever seen now the the effort
21:26against kavanaugh yeah was i think more well orchestrated higher up better funded all of
21:34that but he was manifestly innocent man so that's a that's a much steeper hill
21:39he did he actually got a promotion so it didn't work against him it didn't
21:44work that's right this is an interesting question can you think of a or precipitous
21:48fall when you consider Eric Swalwell's position politically than this.
21:56This is pretty staggering. No, this is the biggest, most effective.
22:02Look, let's just be honest about this.
22:04This guy's life, he went from I'm on TV a lot, people know my name,
22:10and I'm probably going to be the next governor of California.
22:14Just saying, producer Ali, just let us know.
22:17Staff is monitoring. We'll get the audio of this.
22:20This is next level. She says she thinks he drugged her.
22:25So publicly, now that is next level.
22:28Now she's going like full Cosby on him, basically.
22:31Correct. Prior to this, the discussion had been, hey, I drank too much, and I
22:39regret the decision, and I think he raped me.
22:42That was what we talked about yesterday.
22:44Ali, we can't hear this.
22:46So is this the San Francisco Chronicle accuser, the woman who says that he raped
22:52her in 2019 and 2024?
22:56Okay. So that had been the sexual assault allegation.
22:59Again, this woman is going public with her story.
23:03My response yesterday on this, Buck, was I still question if you thought you were
23:09sexually assaulted by him in 2019.
23:12Why did you go out drinking with him again in 2024?
23:17And again, this is where I'm not defending Eric Swalwell.
23:20I don't like the guy at all.
23:21He said that I should be criminally prosecuted for what I said about President Trump
23:26during the New York City case, when I said if I were a juror, I
23:30would encourage a jury to nullify because I don't think these are crimes.
23:34And he said this should be, and I didn't even talk about this, there was
23:37an investigation into whether I should be able to keep my law license after that.
23:41People turned me in to the Tennessee Department of Law, licensure, whatever the heck they're
23:47called, and they did an investigation, and they said you have First Amendment rights to
23:51share your opinion on this.
23:52By the way, if it were the California law, you know what I mean?
23:56I mean, you're in Tennessee, buddy, it makes a big difference.
23:58No, it does, but I didn't even talk about this publicly because I'm like, I
24:02thought the Tennessee bar handled it.
24:03When you get a bar complaint, you have to do an investigation.
24:06I thought they handled it appropriately, but that's all coming from Swalwell.
24:09So I don't like this guy, but I will stand on the principle of, hey,
24:14you have the right to defend yourself.
24:17And I would just say I'm skeptical of a woman who says she was raped
24:21in 2019, deciding to go out for drinks with the guy four years later.
24:26I think most of you out there, if you felt like you were sexually assaulted,
24:29wouldn't go out for drinks again.
24:32But, again, she's speaking out.
24:34This, by the way, also, people will bring up things like they'll say, well, battered
24:37women syndrome or Stockholm syndrome, which actually is something I write about in my book,
24:42Manufacturing Delusion. It comes from a bank robbery that occurred in Stockholm where the people
24:46who were taken hostage became so fond, in a sense, of their captors that they
24:52started trying to help them instead of hoping for rescue.
24:57But, anyway, those things would not apply.
25:01Those things would not apply here because, to your point, Clay, these are employees.
25:05I mean, they chose to hang out with him later.
25:07They weren't in constant fear of their physical.
25:10She was initially an employee, and then she stopped being an employee, and she chose
25:13to go out drinking. I think it's not a – battered wife syndrome is something
25:16where the woman is in constant fear of her safety, and so – and Stockholm
25:20syndrome is when someone's actually taking you captive, right?
25:23This is – if you come back years later of your own accord, I agree
25:26with you. I think that's a – if you're a defense attorney, that's your biggest
25:29signal. Again, if I were a defense attorney and I were defending Eric Swalwell, and,
25:34again, remember, John Adams defended the Boston Massacre, the Redcoats, right, from the Boston Massacre
25:42back in the day. Lawyers, I think, have an obligation to be zealous advocates.
25:46If I were a zealous advocate for him, I don't think you could get a
25:49conviction. I think a jury would say that doesn't add up.
25:51I don't think that – yeah, first of all, you wouldn't have any contemporaneous –
25:55from what we've seen so far, and there's a lot of allegations, but I haven't
25:58seen anything where you would have contemporaneous evidence.
26:00This would turn into a very much a he -said -she -said situation.
26:05However, Clay, I would point out that the investigations in New York, right, normally you
26:13would think – oh, yes, sir?
26:15Sorry, I'm just – I think this may be a different woman.
26:19So I think this is a new accuser.
26:22So when we're talking about the San Francisco Chronicle story, again, I need the team
26:26to be on top of this because we can't hear the audio, but based on
26:30some of the clips, this sounds like a new accuser who is saying, Eric Swalwell,
26:35I believe, drugged me, which may explain, Buck, why he dropped out of the congressional
26:40seat because he may have thought, I can fight my way through some of these,
26:45but now there is a cavalcade, and this is a – I believe, again, team
26:49needs to let me know, I think this is a new accuser in Beverly Hills.
26:54We will sort that out momentarily and bring you the latest on this, the latest
26:57facts on this. I would just say, Clay, as is so often the case, the
27:03weight of numerous allegations, the count of countless counts, if you will, is something that
27:09works very much against you.
27:11Now, comparing it to the Kavanaugh situation, and I always just feel the need to
27:14say this. Amen. manifestly innocent man not oh i don't know not they couldn't prove
27:19it kavanaugh was as innocent as you and i my friends of what they were
27:23saying it was complete complete craziness okay and we know it was craziness because they
27:29couldn't get him and so then clay they had these additional people coming forward but
27:33the additional people coming forward were crazier and crazier and less credible and less credible
27:39and so they they had to actually pull back because the first one was super
27:43shaky and full of it the second one was making it up it was obvious
27:47the third one was a true lunatic and there were others that they didn't present
27:51against kavanaugh because they knew it would hurt their side because they were so clearly
27:56lying now juxtapose that with swalwell these are all at least credible on their face
28:03in terms of the possibility of these things happening the women are named it was
28:07relatively recent and now there's more coming out that are even worse i think this
28:12is a new accuser and her accusation is different than what the san francisco chronicle
28:18uh reported um and again the team we can't hear this audio um so i
28:26think this is a new accuser the reason why i say i think it's a
28:29new accuser is the san francisco chronicle accuser was not named uh so we don't
28:35know who that was still and this person is saying hey this is my name
28:39we'll play audio for you going forward i think this is a new one but
28:42my my point here and again drawing that comparison the kavanaugh thing was everyone knows
28:46that if one person accuses you of any it doesn't have to be even a
28:49sexual so one person makes an accusation against you it's an accusation three people make
28:54it against you and it's all similar you start to have trouble five people ten
28:58people now you got like very very slim chance of people believing you they tried
29:03to manufacture yeah the weight of many counts against kavanaugh and it actually went against
29:09them because it was so absurd like they had a woman who came forward to
29:13the senate and she did the oh kavanaugh raped me it's like well you were
29:16never even the same state as brett kavanaugh so how exactly could he have raped
29:20you if you could never actually prove that you were in the same state as
29:23him and they covered that one up this one the you've got the momentum of
29:28oh another accuser another accuser another accuser and that i think is and at least
29:33in the court of public opinion impossible to beat this accuser actually sounds again he
29:38has the right to a defense but this sounds like a very credible accusation like
29:46he this i mean based on what i'm seeing and we'll play you some of
29:49this audio based on what this woman is saying uh this sounds like something that
29:55will lead to criminal charges in california she's saying he was she was drugged and
30:01that uh there's a direct quote he raped me he choked me and while he
30:06was choking me i lost consciousness i thought i died i didn't consent to any
30:11sexual activity i would never have engaged in a consensual sexual encounter with eric swalwell
30:17lana drews so he is he is in a whole he is in a whole
30:22world of trouble based upon but i would i would just add to this clay
30:26um first of all california and new york very democrat states have specifically adjusted laws
30:33and prosecutorial standards and and procedures to make these kinds of cases easier and more
30:41likely to bring they've even done things like gotten remember in new york they got
30:45rid of i know that was civil is for eugene carroll but they got rid
30:48of the statute of limitations on bringing the civil sexual assault case so they're already
30:52and they they put away that guy um the actor i forget i forget his
30:56name but they got him i think he went away for like 20 years on
31:00allegations that were were old that were from like 15 years ago again i'm going
31:05from memory here but he in these democrat states not only is he possibly facing
31:11a justice system that has been adjusted to make these kinds of and that's that's
31:17also just this uh a decision by the prosecutors right like they'll bring these cases
31:21i mean obviously the harvey weinstein case like they'll bring these kinds of cases um
31:26and beyond that i think they want to make an example like the democrats now
31:30want to make an example of him which is not a good place to be
31:33and if you are eric swalwell no doubt um 100 and again we're going to
31:39play some of this audio this is a new uh this is a new accuser
31:44very specific in california and uh i would expect that there is going to be
31:50a rapid they're already investigating in new york city but this one now would be
31:55on the uh in in california i presume it was in the la area based
31:59on where this and think about what you'd have to say at this point if
32:02you were to if you were not the attorney but if you were somebody who
32:05was going to try to defend eric swalwell publicly you'd have to say that all
32:09of these women are lying i don't think there's anybody anybody in swalwell and the
32:15whole democrat the most hardcore left -wing democrat partisan no one is going to come
32:20out and say that well i think also this is becoming more credible uh to
32:24your point as the kavanaugh thing it got less credible this woman's accusations are more
32:30credible than what was already reported and she's encouraging other people to come forward which
32:37uh i think is likely to lead to more the kavanaugh thing it was if
32:40you had an if you had a an intact ethical compass and an iq over
32:4580 and you saw when they tried to layer on additional complaints you're like well
32:49these are even these are even more absurd than the than the first one you
32:52could tell yes oh this is an op this is a hit this is going
32:56in the other direction of oh now it's women coming forward who feel like they
32:59finally can because they won't be accused of making it up or lying and swalwell
33:03can't just crush them in the court of public opinion he do clay he might
33:07go to prison for a long time based on these accusations i don't see how
33:12there wouldn't be charges brought i mean again he's in big big trouble there's a
33:16whole other level to defend himself but this is a different level than what has
33:19been public so far and it explains buck to me why he suddenly resigned from
33:24congress i bet he was trying to keep this from coming out and he thought
33:28maybe if i resign from congress they won't have this press conference or will take
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35:03learning you're also laughing playing buck just preset them on the iron app uh welcome
35:09back in play travis buck sexton show um we're gonna play you some audio from
35:14the accuser i believe that press conference has just ended but uh here uh here
35:20it is synthesized and i should also mention cnn has not covered this press conference
35:26at all msnbc did not cover it live either fox news did um eric swalwell
35:33is accused by lana drews of uh drugging and raping her in 2018 choking her
35:41to the point of unconsciousness in a west hollywood hotel room uh says that swalwell
35:47offered to use his connections to help her software company uh her attorney says immediately
35:53after the press conference they will be filing a police report with the los angeles
35:58county sheriff's department and will be providing evidence including text messages and photos um she
36:07says she feared swalwell's political power which is why she did not speak out previously
36:12and she is encouraging others to also speak out so this is a new accuser
36:18buck this is i think the most credible of the accusers so far um and
36:23uh i will play some of this audio for you when we come back yeah
36:28um look this is you're here you're the lawyer on the show play and everyone
36:34is entitled to a defense and the presumption the legal presumption of innocence but swalwell
36:38is in a world of a world of uh difficulty we could say right now
36:44to go in less than really 72 hours from the leading contender for democrat governor
36:51of california to i hope i don't go to prison clay is pretty astonishing