David Rutherford Show: Who Was Jeffrey Epstein Really Working For? | Alex Newman Explains
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0:45The greatest conspiracy theories in the world always leads back to the Rothschilds.
0:50Today, my guest, Alex Newman, is going to connect them in the Epstein Files.
0:56Today, on the David Rutherford Show.
1:07Mr. Newman, welcome to the show.
1:10I'm just going to jump right into it.
1:12The greatest conspiracy theories all seem to lead back to the Rothschilds in some way,
1:18shape, or form. And that was the biggest way people would be like, you're crazy,
1:23you're out of your mind.
1:24But the Epstein drop, and you covered this recently in your great two -episode series
1:30about the deep state. I know you've been covering those for years on LibertySentinel .org.
1:36But can you please explain how the Rothschilds and Epstein are connected?
1:43Well, thank you very much for having me, David.
1:44It's an honor and a pleasure to be here.
1:45Really appreciate it. And you can't understand anything to do with these Epstein files if
1:50you don't understand the Rothschild connection, which is interesting because the fake media has talked
1:54almost nothing about this critical connection here.
1:58So if you look through the Epstein documents, and there are still enormous numbers that
2:03we don't have. There are enormous numbers of redactions that are totally inappropriate, and I
2:07would argue illegal. But based on what we do have, one thing is 100 %
2:12clear. Jeffrey Epstein was working for the Rothschilds.
2:15There is no doubt about it.
2:17He specifically says so. The Rothschilds specifically say so.
2:21The only individual who is alive today who's been listed as a co -conspirator, Les
2:26Wexner, publicly testified to that fact just recently before Congress.
2:31He actually said that it was the Rothschilds who recommended Epstein to him.
2:35It was L .E .D.
2:36Rothschild. And he goes into a little bit about how that happened.
2:39And I guess for the people who don't know the Rothschilds, maybe that's a good
2:43place to start. Perfect. This is the most powerful banking dynasty in the history of
2:50the world. There is no other family like it.
2:52We know about George Soros, the evil billionaire who funds all the radical left -wing
2:56protests. George Soros is almost entirely a creation of the Rothschild dynasty.
3:01His quantum fund got its start with money from a Rothschild bank called Banque Privé
3:06in the French -speaking part of Switzerland back in the late 1960s, earned thousands of
3:11percent returns. And so that's really where George Soros got its start.
3:15The same thing was true with Cecil Rhodes.
3:17So the Rothschild banking dynasty got its start over 200 years ago.
3:21Lord Mayor Amschel Rothschild had this great idea.
3:25He had five sons. He said, hey, I'll deploy them throughout Europe.
3:28We'll send one to London.
3:29We'll send one to Paris.
3:30We'll have one in Vienna.
3:32And basically, we will create this banking network.
3:35And very quickly, they figured out that the best way to make money wasn't necessarily
3:39to loan to productive enterprises.
3:42It was to loan money to governments, right?
3:44Governments could go into a lot of debt.
3:46They were sovereign. And they always needed money to fight wars.
3:50And so you would have the Rothschild banking dynasty, in many cases, funding both sides
3:54of the war. And when the war was over, not only would they get their
3:58money back, they would collect interest on that debt down the line for decades.
4:04To give you a sense of the power of this family, there's a, it's actually
4:08a decent book. It's written by a Rothschild apologist.
4:11So you got to keep that in mind.
4:12This guy's a very pro -Rothschild.
4:14His name is Niall Ferguson.
4:15He's kind of a, I call him like a court historian, an establishment historian.
4:18He argues that in his book, that the outcome of the Napoleonic Wars, right, we're
4:24talking 200 years ago, was decided by the Rothschild family when they decided to put
4:28most of their financial weight behind the British government.
4:31And so you have a situation here where you have one family deciding the outcome
4:35of a war between the two most powerful governments in the world.
4:39And that's 200 years ago.
4:40So you fast forward to today.
4:42It is, I'm sorry to interrupt, but there's a piece of that that seems to
4:45be the most heavily contested was that they had a courier come back from Waterloo
4:49knowing the outcome and then cornering the markets in England.
4:55Is that a true story?
4:57And then that basically established them as major controlling of the English monarchy.
5:04Is that true? There's probably some truth to it.
5:07It's hard to know when you're dealing with a family like this, but it is
5:10absolutely true that the Rothschild dynasty has incredible intelligence networks.
5:15They have access to the best information.
5:17In fact, as they brag on one of their bank websites, we've been at the
5:20center of the world's financial markets and we have unrivaled access.
5:25To all the key players.
5:26And it's true. It's absolutely true.
5:28And so what happened with these Napoleonic Wars, I think it's actually even worse than
5:31just having good intelligence and getting the information before everybody else and doing some sneaky
5:36things on the stock market.
5:37I think they deliberately, by putting their financial weight behind Britain, tipped the scales in
5:41that war and ended up basically causing the defeat of the French government in that
5:47war. They changed the outcome of history.
5:51And so that's talked about in the book.
5:53So you fast forward to today with Jeffrey Epstein, right?
5:55People say, well, who was Epstein working for?
5:57Where was he getting his money from?
5:59Well, I think there's a lot of answers to that question, but the one that's
6:02staring you right in the face is the Rothschilds.
6:04We've got a contract in these documents where the Rothschild dynasty paid him $25 million
6:10in one go for the quote unquote work, the capital W.
6:16There's no real details on what this work entailed, but, you know, something about risk
6:21assessment and, you know, whatever.
6:23But you kind of see these interactions between Ari Andy Rothschild, the CEO of the
6:28Rothschild Group, and Jeffrey Epstein.
6:30And it goes way beyond just business, right?
6:33They're talking like personal friends, like marriage problems and things like this.
6:37And so when we talk about who did the Rothschilds work for, well, what we
6:40know for sure, or who did Jeffrey Epstein work for, we know for sure the
6:44Rothschilds. In fact, Jeffrey Epstein introduced himself in some of his emails as a representative
6:49of the Rothschilds when he was writing to Peter Thiel.
6:51He says, as you probably know, I'm a representative of the Rothschilds.
6:54So it's critical for people to understand this.
6:57And you can't figure out what was going on with Epstein unless you get this
7:01little piece. Well, and that's what I've been trying to do.
7:04Obviously, my background, I always like to, you know, lead with the intelligence connections.
7:11And there's many theories that he was connected to the CIA, MI6, you know, Mossad,
7:18the Russians, the Saudis, the, you know, Cubans, because he's in the brokering ideas about
7:25that. And that creates, I think, this interesting pattern where people are confused by that.
7:33They're like, well, was he an intelligence asset or was he working independently as, i
7:40.e., that someone that had that type of wealth or connectivity in terms of being
7:44able to money launder? Or, you know, I mean, that's, you know, his early time
7:50with Bear Stearns, his connections to Anand Khashoggi, you know, all these other bizarre things.
7:56For me, the nexus of finance seems to usurp the connections to intelligence.
8:03Is that how you read it as well?
8:05That's what I've been arguing for many years, David.
8:07I did a book in 2020 called Deep State, the Invisible Government behind the scenes.
8:12And we have a whole chapter in there about the intelligence agencies.
8:15They're important players in all this, but they don't, like, run the world.
8:18I think a much better way to understand the intelligence agencies is kind of like
8:21the operational arm doing the dirty work of what I call in the book the
8:25deep state behind the deep state.
8:27That would be Rothschilds, Rockefellers.
8:29And, by the way, the Rockefellers were all over Epstein as well.
8:31David Rockefeller invited Rothschild onto the Trilateral Commission in 1990.
8:35We've got a lot of documents about that.
8:37He actually served, Epstein served on the board of Rockefeller University.
8:40So he was very close to David Rockefeller, and David Rockefeller, just like the Rothschilds,
8:45helped build him up. But the intelligence agencies, you know, people think of them as,
8:50like, agencies of government that protect national security.
8:53Nothing could be further from the truth, right?
8:55I mean, these are operatives for the deep state behind the deep state, and they
9:01use state cover to be able to get away with things that would be criminal
9:05activity in any other context.
9:08And we see that with Epstein.
9:10He was clearly connected with the CIA.
9:11He was clearly connected with the Mossad.
9:13In fact, when the U .S.
9:15attorney, Alex Acosta, was going after him, he was told, hey, this guy's with U
9:20.S. and allied intelligence. Leave him alone.
9:22And that's how he ended up with this sweetheart deal where, after raping and trafficking
9:26a bunch of kids, he pled guilty to one count of soliciting prostitution from a
9:31minor. So, yeah, intelligence is involved here.
9:34There's no question. But Epstein and the Rothschilds, they're a step above the intelligence agencies.
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10:26Now, we obviously, there, you know, what is it?
10:29Potentially six million documents that they say.
10:33I'm trying, like for me, I'm trying to find, you know, a credible source that's
10:40consolidating those using AI to where you can go in and search and go through
10:45and pull it out. Because I think some of the obfuscation that's taking place is
10:50that you flood the system.
10:52It's too over. It's too over.
10:52By the time that people get to it, it'll be out of the news.
10:56We'll be bombing Iran or whatever else is going to happen to distract us from
11:01the Epstein files. How do you go about looking at these files?
11:07Because I think that's where a lot of people are struggling.
11:10The magnitude of information is so overwhelming.
11:13They're not sure where to parse out and how to kind of make those, I
11:20don't know, those silos of the unique different aspects of his operations.
11:27Yeah, and that is very difficult to do.
11:30The Department of Justice's search function is not what we would like it to be.
11:35But I've spent a couple of weeks on this now, and I've had people on
11:38my staff also spending an enormous amount of time on this, looking through these documents.
11:42I'm working on a cover story right now for the New American Magazine, which I
11:45actually just sent in my first draft last night, but I've got a lot of
11:47work to do. That should be published within the next couple of weeks here.
11:51So we're spending a lot of time going through the documents.
11:54There's no chance that we'll be able to get all of them.
11:56We have tried to use some assistance from AI to try to process and make
12:00sense of them. But I think people need to understand, too, this is just the
12:04tip of the iceberg. This is Jeffrey Epstein's unclassified, unencrypted email system.
12:09This is what he had to say through Gmail, right?
12:12We don't have access to huge amounts of files that the government is holding back.
12:16We know for a fact, in fact, the documents talk about this, that Jeffrey Epstein
12:19ordered enormous amounts of documents and files destroyed.
12:23Somebody obviously tipped him off before some of these raids were going to happen.
12:27So there's enormous amounts of stuff that we don't even have.
12:29So what we're looking at here, I think, is the tip of the tip of
12:32the iceberg. But even that shows you very clearly that this was a massive operation,
12:39that there's obviously this nexus with the Rothschilds, that there's this nexus with the Rockefellers,
12:44that intelligence agencies are involved.
12:46And I think we get a little bit of a sense of what he was
12:49doing. One of the things that I'm focusing on, in fact, my next episode of
12:52Behind the Deep State is going to focus on the kind of transhumanist eugenics, the
12:57science angle. And I think that may be one of the most important stories.
13:01Jeffrey Epstein was right in the middle of this bizarre push to basically – these
13:07people believe they're going to take control of evolution.
13:10They believe that using genetic engineering and artificial intelligence and basically harvesting the genetic information
13:15from every organism on this planet and mixing and matching it, that they're going to
13:19be able to become masters of life, that they're going to become basically like gods.
13:23And this comes through really clearly in his conversations with Martin Novak at Harvard University,
13:29who ran one of the most important genetics and evolutionary operations at Harvard and in
13:34the world. It's very clear in his communications with the folks over at Arizona State
13:38University, which is run by Michael Crow, who, of course, is the chairman of Inc.
13:42Utel, the investment arm of the intelligence community, the CIA.
13:45You see this in his communications with people at MIT and Columbia and UCLA.
13:49So there's a lot of things that we're kind of seeing the shadows of.
13:53I would like to see more documents.
13:55I think the Department of Justice is totally out of line redacting a lot of
13:59these names. They were authorized to redact the names of the victims, not the perpetrators
14:04and his associates. So we've got a long way to go.
14:07But even just with what we've been able to find over the last few weeks,
14:10it's clear that this is huge and a lot more work needs to be done,
14:15frankly, I think by not just journalists, but criminal investigators.
14:19I agree, too. And that seems to be the problem.
14:22I mean, as like you said, we haven't seen the the people who were the
14:28victims of the sexual abuse in the 302 interviews with the feds.
14:33Right. We haven't seen any of the banking records because obviously, you know, when, you
14:38know, shady banking transactions, the government flags those for certain things.
14:43And so we we can't even and those were I forget what other story those
14:47became super. Oh, with the Bidens.
14:49Right. And the Bidens, there was all these flag transactions that were coming from Burisma
14:55back in, you know, 10 percent for the big guy type of thing.
14:58And so we know that there's a reality that and then obviously I think the
15:05ones that would be overwhelmingly damning would be, you know, any any information that the
15:12agency has. And obviously, if he goes back to a non -Kashoggi in the Iran
15:16-Contra scandal in his role in washing money for whatever was going on, whoever we
15:21was working for, you know, those will be in the intelligence documents as well, too.
15:26So, yeah, I agree. There's a tremendous more to this iceberg.
15:31Moving forward. Do you believe that Massey and Roe Kahan, do you think they have
15:38the political clout to get this ball to the next level or is it going
15:45to require some type of political pressure from the MAGA base to get rid of
15:51Bondi, right, to get rid of some of the other attorneys or maybe even people?
15:57Now, the craziest one I see constantly is you got to get Susie Wiles out
16:02of the office at office.
16:04Where do you where do we go now and where does the pressure come from
16:09externally that that begins to make move the breach, the walls, if you will?
16:16Yeah, it's a good question.
16:17We're actually seeing and this is shameful.
16:19We're seeing a lot more progress.
16:20progress on accountability in Europe than we are in the United States.
16:23And then what's happening in Europe is nothing to write home about.
16:26I mean, you've had a few people resign, a couple of people be charged criminally.
16:30And I mean, that's a good start, but that's nothing compared to what we need.
16:34So I think a lot of the MAGA base is really disappointed with Donald Trump.
16:38And he has this idea that he could go out and shoot somebody on Fifth
16:41Avenue and all his supporters would still love him.
16:44And I think a lot of his supporters really do love him.
16:47But this is one of those issues that I don't think it's going away.
16:50We're talking about the systematic rape and sexual torture and abuse of children.
16:55That's not something that's just like a minor political inconvenience.
16:59It gets to the essence of who we are as a people.
17:02Why do we even have a government if we can't stop this kind of horror
17:05against children? So I don't think Pam Bondi is going to be able to deflect
17:10and talk about the stock market indefinitely.
17:13Unfortunately, Massey has been the victim of some pretty ruthless smears.
17:19I like Massey. I think he's doing very important work, but he's really been isolated
17:23now in the Republican caucus in Congress.
17:26And so that's unfortunate. But what we're seeing now is other members of Congress also
17:30step forward. We've had Congresswoman Lauren Boebert.
17:33We've had Congresswoman Nancy Mace.
17:36We've had several of them.
17:38Congressman Tim Burchett recently came out from Tennessee and explained that some of this stuff
17:43was like actually satanic. So there are members of Congress who are interested in this.
17:47And frankly, there are some Democrats who are pushing for this, too.
17:50I think they're still hoping that there's going to be some kind of like Trump
17:54scandal. You know, we've done some searches on Trump.
17:57We found that somebody whose name was redacted wrote to Jeffrey Epstein and said they
18:01were going to get rid of Trump by forcing him to resign instead of doing
18:04what they did to JFK.
18:05That's interesting. I'd like to know who said that.
18:07And how did they know?
18:08What do they know about JFK?
18:09Right. Exactly. So there's a lot of this stuff.
18:12But we'll see. I think without any question, we need to have prosecutions here.
18:17And when Pam Bonney was asked how many people are being investigated or indicted and
18:22she did not have a real answer, that was very disappointing.
18:24But I don't think Americans are going to let this just pass by.
18:29And hopefully what's happening in Europe will add some pressure to do something here in
18:33the United States. You know, it's really embarrassing, David.
18:35The United Nations, which is about the most disgraceful criminal organization in the world, is
18:41actually now putting out some good stuff on Epstein.
18:43They're saying that these are crimes against humanity.
18:45We cannot have impunity. These people need to be prosecuted.
18:48So when the U .N.
18:49is doing more to expose Epstein associates than your own government, you know you've got
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21:03Well, for me, it just goes back to this, you know, it's what, in 1998,
21:1199, Alex Jones and what's the guy from England, Ick, David Ick or whatever, Ike,
21:17you know, they're telling us that the world is being run by satanic pedophiles who
21:23control every system. And you're like, hey, man, you're out of your gourd.
21:28Well, Elon buys X. We finally have the floodgates open to people who've been doing
21:34extensive research like yourself for years and years and years.
21:38But somehow it was, you know, always quantified or classified in the conspiratorial, you know,
21:47distribution. distributed over and off to the side by a mainstream music media and now
21:52that's broken i mean when you just collectivize you know your show alex's show rogan's
21:59show sean ryan's show megan kelly's tucker show you know even all the other shows
22:04together it usurps the the numbers of mainstream you know they're they're non if they're
22:09non they're non -players anymore but right now the other interesting thing is you start
22:15to see consolidation of media groups you see almost like a firewall that's being built
22:22up in order to protect potentially this nefarious criminal network and so again i go
22:29back to the thing is it a state is it someone like a ken paxton
22:34in texas who just had a huge win against vanguard uh black black rock and
22:40state street right a 30 million dollar fine vanguard's like all right we don't want
22:43to play the game we don't want to lose uh you know our sec standing
22:47um is it somebody like a ken paxton or does it have to be the
22:53next person the next cowboy to come in does it has a moral stance uh
22:59to fight against this level corruption what what do you where do you think the
23:03best avenue and approach could come from well that's a good question and i've been
23:07saying for a long time now that if the federal government if the department of
23:10justice won't do its job here there are plenty of other jurisdictions that have the
23:15authority and i would argue the duty to take the lead here uh there is
23:20a nexus with uh all kinds of jurisdictions right epstein was in and out of
23:24new york he was in and out of florida he was in and out of
23:27new mexico nobody has searched this 10 000 acres ranch right which is the transhumanism
23:33hub right that's where all the labs were yeah the new york times reported five
23:38or six years ago that he had plans to impregnate 20 women at a time
23:43and seed humanity with his dna like this is before the documents are even released
23:46are you kidding me why has nobody searched this ridiculous property uh there's a reference
23:51in the documents to two dead bodies of girls buried on this ranch like you
23:55would think every sheriff's department police department state law enforcement agency would be there in
24:00a flash but no nobody will touch this why well maybe governor bill richardson would
24:04like to answer some of those questions oh my gosh but uh but no we
24:08need local district attorneys we need state attorneys we need state attorneys general we need
24:13all hands on deck here uh he was in and out of france right we
24:16know emmanuel macron another rothschild agent is not going to be taking the lead on
24:20any of these but there are law enforcement agencies all over the world that have
24:24jurisdiction in these cases and it is absolutely essential if the doj won't do its
24:30job that these agencies do we can convene grand juries i mean there's a lot
24:34of ways to get at some of these people and um it's absolutely essential that
24:39we do you know i'm proud of the norwegians right the norwegians just went after
24:42uh torbjorn jaglan this guy had diplomatic immunity through his role at the council of
24:47europe which is kind of like a eu style uh regional regime uh and they
24:51actually the norwegian government asked the council of europe to please lift his diplomatic community
24:56and he's now being charged with very very serious crimes that could see him go
25:00to prison for a while so uh so this is what we need to be
25:02doing and if the doj won't do it let the norwegians do it if the
25:05norwegians won't do it let the sheriff's department in new mexico do it but we've
25:09got to get these people in for questioning and then we need criminal charges i
25:13agree with you i think a lot of these you could do these localized municipalities
25:18palm beach county sheriffs right you could do you know the new mexico sheriffs you
25:23could go remember there was the assistant da down in the island of saint john's
25:29like the main assistant and then she got canned right when she was about to
25:32file something against jp morgan right yeah so you know there i agree with you
25:37i think once it is once you're filing right what is it it's about the
25:42ability to get past the firewall into real disclosure of financial documents always follow the
25:50money everybody knows that and to where those could start to start toppling more and
25:55more people to where you get to somebody who had as much intimate understanding and
25:59knowledge of the operations right from a financial as well as probably the network and
26:05how it worked and then being able to dispose that in in depositions i i
26:10agree with you right there and we can use the traditional tactics right if somebody
26:15will turn on somebody higher up we'll give them immunity right elon must pointed out
26:19that a lot of these girls who were victimized ended up being brought in as
26:23perpetrators as well because that's better than any nda will offer them immunity if they
26:27will testify if they will hand over the documents and the information that they have
26:31um we've got to start getting creative here the law enforcement agencies know how to
26:35do this they just need to get a backbone and do it that's right it's
26:38about the backbone and i think that's what we've seen now that we we all
26:43figured it out in covet and by the way your work during covet was incredible
26:47too um you know we all figured out we're being lied to at it at
26:52an epic scale now this confirms that the lie is systemic it's global and it's
26:58at the highest echelons of power so you know i think all of us that
27:02are picking at the fringes as much as possible to kind of get the the
27:06consciousness of of different societies or different large bodies of people in particular voting blocks
27:12to force uh the people to to you know, move forward with these types of
27:18deeper investigations. All right, Alex, what do you have next coming up?
27:23And then also on this topic, as well as other topics, and then where can
27:30people follow you, find you?
27:31And then obviously, I initially wanted to bring you on because your book you did
27:35with Robert Bortons, which is incredible about the woke -ified educational system, which dates back
27:41to communism in the 1880s, and which I'm sure there are Rothschild's connections there.
27:47So what do you have going on that people can find you and follow you?
27:52Well, thank you so much, David.
27:53Yes, one of the big projects, Robert Bortons and I just released a Woke and
27:57Weaponized that you were, you had him on your program recently.
27:59So thank you for that huge, huge expose of what's going on in the government
28:03school system. I think that's one of the most important topics right now.
28:06I'm very blessed to serve with Robert at Classical Conversations.
28:09He's CEO. I get to be a fellow and actually have my children enrolled there.
28:13It's a great program. I've got a big, like I said, cover story coming out
28:16in the New American magazine within the next few weeks here about Epstein, going through
28:20all these different angles that we talked about, but in much more depth.
28:24People can find that at thenewamerican .com.
28:26If they're not subscribers even to the print magazine, they can at least get the
28:28daily headlines for free. And then my personal newsletter, we send out two to three
28:33editions each week with the latest and greatest information.
28:36That's at LibertySentinel, S -E -N -T -I -N -E -L .org.
28:40And then on X, you know, Alex Newman underscore J -O -U.
28:44I've got some more books in the pipeline right now.
28:46We're doing a revised second edition of Deep State, The Invisible Government Behind the Scenes,
28:50working on one about American history for our 250th anniversary.
28:54And we'll continue on this Epstein series for my show Behind the Deep State as
28:58long as it takes. We're just going to keep nailing these people, keep exposing this
29:01stuff. And we don't intend to stop until we run out of stuff to talk
29:05about. Awesome. Alex, I can't thank you enough, man.
29:09Your work is phenomenal. Your patriotism and then your moral convictions, I think, are with
29:18what drive you. They drive me as well.
29:20And I'm just, I wish you all the best and bless you in your endeavors.
29:24Thank you so much, David.
29:25It's an honor and a pleasure to be here.
29:26God bless you too. Thank you.
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